Roger Clemens is an Astro

[LeftWideOpen]

Signed a one year deal. Sucks for the Red Sox. We could really use him right about now.

[ben pequeno]

it's not like we're gonna get anywhere with him.

[FondestMemory]

is that official now? last i heard the astros came out and said that news was premature.

[xbrokendownx]

eh whatever, pretty much everyone knew this.


at least he helps out my fantasy team now

[ben pequeno]

eh whatever, pretty much everyone knew this.


at least he helps out my fantasy team now was your fantasy team the cardinals?

[asianxcore]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2463566

huhuuhuhuhuhuh

[LeftWideOpen]

is that official now? last i heard the astros came out and said that news was premature.

ESPNEWS just came on saying he signed a one year deal w/ financial terms undisclosed. I think it's legit.

As for choosing the Astros, everyone saw this coming. I was crossing my fingers for the Sox, but nobody in Boston is really going to be devastated because it was assumed he'd likely return to Houston.

[xbrokendownx]

was your fantasy team the cardinals?




huh? im talking about fantasy baseball

[mikeford]

ESPN reports a denial from the GM

[hockey0001]

everyone who is reporting is done is quoting newsday, so basically newsday is the only place saying its done.

[LeftWideOpen]

the team is calling it "premature".

basically if newsday jumped the gun, it's probably happening sometime soon. although according to peter gammons, son of sam horn reported earlier the sox signed him, which is bullshit according to the team.

[mikeford]

change title?

[bigmike]

IF he were to come back, the only team i'd think he'd come back to would be houston. there's no way i could ever see him going back to boston or NY. I personally didn't expect him to come back this year, especially since the only team i thought he'd go to, the disastro's are behind st. louis, cincy, and the brewers.

[LeftWideOpen]

the thing that strikes me here is this ...the team isnt saying "nothing's imminent" or "there's nothing to report" ...they are saying its premature. that means they likely anticipate it happening soon.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

If he goes to the Astros there is going to be trade speculation all the way up until the deadline. I personally would not like to see the Sox go after him in a trade.

[LeftWideOpen]

If he goes to the Astros there is going to be trade speculation all the way up until the deadline. I personally would not like to see the Sox go after him in a trade.

i'm sure there's a no-trade clause in his contract, maybe with the exception of the sox and the yankees.

[Brownpants06]

press conference now... one year 14 million dollar deal

[aloneatlastnj]

press conference now... one year 14 million dollar deal

its 22 million for one year. approximately 5 million a month. damn.

some guys in the league arent even making that much a year.

[crit]

at least he's not a yankee.

[Jesse2]

its 22 million for one year. approximately 13 million a month. damn.

i think you mean around 3 million a month.

[aloneatlastnj]

i think you mean around 3 million a month.


edited. thanks.

[xbrokendownx]

i think you mean around 3 million a month.




actually, its 5.5 million per month, since theres only 4 months left in the season

[aloneatlastnj]

i dont know why sports news media are so surprised that he re-signed with the 'stros. i knew he wasnt going to go to boston, new york, or texas. his best friend and work out buddy is there, it's an easier league to dominate, and it's got to be an established comfort level over there in Houston.

think the addition of Clemens will make the difference for the Astros and their standings in the NL Central?

[LeftWideOpen]

all you doubters can suck it.

just kidding ...but yeah, looks like they were just holding the announcement off until a press conference could be called.

[__underthesun]

now all we need is to get brandon backe back in rotation, and the astros are set...

if their bats ever start going again.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

i hope the secret suspension theory is true.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

i'm sure there's a no-trade clause in his contract, maybe with the exception of the sox and the yankees.
Clemens could waive it.

[livethesounds]

a couple things to say on this topic

1. The Astros have been sliding after a franchise record start, its not like they suck, they have the same team if not better than last years NL champions. Having Rodger back is a shot in the arm right now for them, if they start playing well again now they will be right back on top of the NL Central (playing the cards, reds, braves in the next 2 weeks) They will be fine and rodger will get at least 10 wins, and when backe comes back houston will have one of the best rotatins in baseball if not the best.

2. All you Sox fans and Yankee fans quit thinking that you still have a chance with clemens. I know Peter Gammons and the "experts" in Bristol Connecticut think that the astros will be out of contention and clemens will go to one of them but ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. for one the astros wont be out of contention, they are in a better spot than last year, with a better hitting and picthing team. (lots of their losses are due to 3 young pitches getting shelled for 10 runs in the first 3 innings) Clemens will never be a sock or a yankee, so get over it. and dont say you dont need the guy, last i checked the yankees wernt doing that well, youd never know it considering ESPN shits all over themselves everytime they get a win saying they are turning things around.

[livethesounds]

now all we need is to get brandon backe back in rotation, and the astros are set...

if their bats ever start going again.

When did the bats stop going, last i checked it was the 5 run innings that Rodriguez, Buckholtz, & Nieve have been giving up alot latley. If they (and andy) pitched like they did in april this team would be 5 games up on St. Louis.

[sweetforever]

a couple things to say on this topic

1. The Astros have been sliding after a franchise record start, its not like they suck, they have the same team if not better than last years NL champions. Having Roger back is a shot in the arm right now for them, if they start playing well again now they will be right back on top of the NL Central (playing the cards, reds, braves in the next 2 weeks) They will be fine and Roger will get at least 10 wins, and when backe comes back houston will have one of the best rotatins in baseball if not the best.

2. All you Sox fans and Yankee fans quit thinking that you still have a chance with clemens. I know Peter Gammons and the "experts" in Bristol Connecticut think that the astros will be out of contention and clemens will go to one of them but ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. for one the astros wont be out of contention, they are in a better spot than last year, with a better hitting and picthing team. (lots of their losses are due to 3 young pitches getting shelled for 10 runs in the first 3 innings) Clemens will never be a sock or a yankee, so get over it. and dont say you dont need the guy, last i checked the yankees wernt doing that well, youd never know it considering ESPN shits all over themselves everytime they get a win saying they are turning things around.

Learn to spell the guy's name right buddy, then make a statement

[xbrokendownx]

2. All you Sox fans and Yankee fans quit thinking that you still have a chance with clemens. I know Peter Gammons and the "experts" in Bristol Connecticut think that the astros will be out of contention and clemens will go to one of them but ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. for one the astros wont be out of contention, they are in a better spot than last year, with a better hitting and picthing team. (lots of their losses are due to 3 young pitches getting shelled for 10 runs in the first 3 innings) Clemens will never be a sock or a yankee, so get over it. and dont say you dont need the guy, last i checked the yankees wernt doing that well, youd never know it considering ESPN shits all over themselves everytime they get a win saying they are turning things around.




arent doing that well? were tied for first in the AL east, are only 4 games back of the league leading tigers, have scored the most runs in the league, and hav allowed the 8th least runs in the league.


you should probably check your facts before making such a dumbass post. good try, though

[Caleb Cattivera]

arent doing that well? were tied for first in the AL east, are only 4 games back of the league leading tigers, have scored the most runs in the league, and hav allowed the 8th least runs in the league.


you should probably check your facts before making such a dumbass post. good try, though

haha

[Jesse2]

a couple things to say on this topic

1. The Astros have been sliding after a franchise record start, its not like they suck, they have the same team if not better than last years NL champions. Having Rodger back is a shot in the arm right now for them, if they start playing well again now they will be right back on top of the NL Central (playing the cards, reds, braves in the next 2 weeks) They will be fine and rodger will get at least 10 wins, and when backe comes back houston will have one of the best rotatins in baseball if not the best.

2. All you Sox fans and Yankee fans quit thinking that you still have a chance with clemens. I know Peter Gammons and the "experts" in Bristol Connecticut think that the astros will be out of contention and clemens will go to one of them but ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. for one the astros wont be out of contention, they are in a better spot than last year, with a better hitting and picthing team. (lots of their losses are due to 3 young pitches getting shelled for 10 runs in the first 3 innings) Clemens will never be a sock or a yankee, so get over it. and dont say you dont need the guy, last i checked the yankees wernt doing that well, youd never know it considering ESPN shits all over themselves everytime they get a win saying they are turning things around.

aaaaaaaand my head just blew up.

Look at the injuries the Yankees have had, combined with their SP situation.... then tell me it's not impressive that they're tied for first in the AL East.

The Astros would be in 4th place in that division with their record.

[Brownpants06]

actually, its 5.5 million per month, since theres only 4 months left in the season
he doesn't get 22 million since the season is already in progress, he will make about 13 million if he's back in June


The tentative goal is to have him start against Minnesota on June 22 -- if he's put on the big league roster on that day, he would earn $12,632,307.

[xbrokendownx]

No, he doesn't get 22 million since the season is already in progress, he will make about 13 million if he's back in June, like I originally said.



ok, my bad.


i didnt know they did it like that. i heard 22 million, so i thought it was from this point, not from the beginning of the year.

[Brownpants06]

edited it since it sounded a little harsh, haha sorry

[hubbabubbal3ts]

some of clemens comments regarding his return have been pretty shady. i think the main reason he is deciding to come back is to play with his son. i mean, i'm not complaining, we definantly need him. the pictching is really killing us. especially because of all the blown saves given up by "lights out" lidge, wheeler, and qualls.




The Astros would be in 4th place in that division with their record.

they are 3rd right now in the central, the cards have a better record than the yankees and red sox, so i really don't see your point to that comment.

[Jesse2]

some of clemens comments regarding his return have been pretty shady. i think the main reason he is deciding to come back is to play with his son. i mean, i'm not complaining, we definantly need him. the pictching is really killing us. especially because of all the blown saves given up by "lights out" lidge, wheeler, and qualls.




they are 3rd right now in the central, the cards have a better record than the yankees and red sox, so i really don't see your point to that comment.

my point was that the kid that i quoted was acting like the astros are the best team in the NL and the red sox/yankees have nothing on them. i wanted to remind him that they're ONE game above .500.

[JTrain12]

i think its bullshit that a guy came come back in June and make 3.5million a month!!! and what does he play in 5 games a month, maybe 6...and youre not even promised to get a win, pitchers are way overpaid...yes i know the playoff race can come down to one game, but thats some bullshit...and yea, id say this if signed with the Sox too!

[hubbabubbal3ts]

my point was that the kid that i quoted was acting like the astros are the best team in the NL and the red sox/yankees have nothing on them. i wanted to remind him that they're ONE game above .500.

oh, okay, i guess i just didn't read enough into the post. as much as i'd love to say that the astros have something on the yankess and red sox, right now, the way they are playing, they definantly would not be a match for either team. but, if we were talking at the begining of the season, i'm sure the astros would have given both of them a run for their money.

[Jesse2]

oh, okay, i guess i just didn't read enough into the post. as much as i'd love to say that the astros have something on the yankess and red sox, right now, the way they are playing, they definantly would not be a match for either team. but, if we were talking at the begining of the season, i'm sure the astros would have given both of them a run for their money.

no problem. he said the yankees "aren't doing well", and i think 10 games over .500 given their current lineup is pretty fucking impressive.

[fromwithin]

i think its bullshit that a guy came come back in June and make 3.5million a month!!! and what does he play in 5 games a month, maybe 6...and youre not even promised to get a win, pitchers are way overpaid...yes i know the playoff race can come down to one game, but thats some bullshit...and yea, id say this if signed with the Sox too!

michael jordan got paid in the area of $30-40 million for his last season.

and I dont want to hear about the yankees, if theyre not in first place then steinbrenner and torre are shipping everyone down to AAA and trading for all-stars on other teams. Live in a city like Pittsburgh who hasn't had a winning season in a LONG time and then tell me what its like. I'm really happy for Tigers fans and I hope they continue rolling, hopefully right over the Yankees, that I'd love to see.

[xbrokendownx]

michael jordan got paid in the area of $30-40 million for his last season.

and I dont want to hear about the yankees, if theyre not in first place then steinbrenner and torre are shipping everyone down to AAA and trading for all-stars on other teams. Live in a city like Pittsburgh who hasn't had a winning season in a LONG time and then tell me what its like. I'm really happy for Tigers fans and I hope they continue rolling, hopefully right over the Yankees, that I'd love to see.



blame it on your owner. you do realize that with revenue sharing, every team gets equal money right? steinbrenner just wants to win...can you really fault him for that?

[Brownpants06]

no problem. he said the yankees "aren't doing well", and i think 10 games over .500 given their current lineup is pretty fucking impressive.


their "current lineup" is probably still better than most teams in MLB.

[fromwithin]

blame it on your owner. you do realize that with revenue sharing, every team gets equal money right? steinbrenner just wants to win...can you really fault him for that?

the yankees have a tv contract that pays them $50-60 million a year, theyre still getting WAY more money than the Pirates.

8 out of the top 10 free agent signings came from cities with the biggest TV markets.

[JTrain12]

exactly, hes Michael Jordan...he plays everygame and has 6 rings to show for it...

[fromwithin]

exactly, hes Michael Jordan...he plays everygame and has 6 rings to show for it...

obviously, but I dont see the Astros winning the World Series, they have horrible relief pitching. So unless their starters can carry them through the playoffs then theyre screwed.

[JTrain12]

astros wont even make it to the playoffs

[Jesse2]

their "current lineup" is probably still better than most teams in MLB.

Cabrera
Cairo
Giambi
ARod
Posada
Cano
Bernie
Phillips
Long

you think so? i can think of quite a few teams heading into games with better lineups than that.

[Brownpants06]

he's on PTI right now heh

[LeftWideOpen]

Clemens could waive it.

right, and thats what i meant by "except for the sox or yankees maybe". He'd waive it for them, but not anyone else.

i think its bullshit that a guy came come back in June and make 3.5million a month!!! and what does he play in 5 games a month, maybe 6...and youre not even promised to get a win, pitchers are way overpaid...yes i know the playoff race can come down to one game, but thats some bullshit...and yea, id say this if signed with the Sox too!

well that's about the dumbest thing ive heard today, congratulations. why are they overpaid? Don't give me the "well they only play once every 5 days wah wah wah...". You know how hard it is to recover and take care of your arm after throwing about 100+ pitches? They take a beating. They deserve just as much money as hitters because they have just as grueling of a season due to the stress they put on their arms and there's a reason why people say "pitching win championships". They are the most valuable commodities in the game.

[hockey0001]

Cabrera
Cairo
Giambi
ARod
Posada
Cano
Bernie
Phillips
Long

you think so? i can think of quite a few teams heading into games with better lineups than that.

come on now, thats cherry picking if ive ever seen it. Damon, Jeter, and Sheffield have to be included in that, theyre not on the DL and are just getting a night off.

[hockey0001]

right, and thats what i meant by "except for the sox or yankees maybe". He'd waive it for them, but not anyone else.


I hope that the Sox don't trade for Clemens. Adding him when it was just going to cost money is one thing, but a trade for him would probably cost atleast Hansen and/or Lester, and i dont wanna give up either of them for a 2 month rental

[fromwithin]

well that's about the dumbest thing ive heard today, congratulations. why are they overpaid? Don't give me the "well they only play once every 5 days wah wah wah...". You know how hard it is to recover and take care of your arm after throwing about 100+ pitches? They take a beating. They deserve just as much money as hitters because they have just as grueling of a season due to the stress they put on their arms and there's a reason why people say "pitching win championships". They are the most valuable commodities in the game.

I agree, the pitchers of today don't hold a candle to the pitchers 20, 50, 100 years ago. These guys pitched a crazy amount and could also hit, something unheard of in today's age and they got paid peanuts for it.

[hockey0001]

I agree, the pitchers of today don't hold a candle to the pitchers 20, 50, 100 years ago. These guys pitched a crazy amount and could also hit, something unheard of in today's age and they got paid peanuts for it.

everyone got paid peanuts then, the game was different then. The majority of pitchers today are not overpaid

[Jesse2]

come on now, thats cherry picking if ive ever seen it. Damon, Jeter, and Sheffield have to be included in that, theyre not on the DL and are just getting a night off.

Sheff is day to day and has 32 at-bats this month (Terrence Long has 25). You take out Matsui, Crosby,
Chacon and throw in Randy Johnson having 1 good start in his last 7 and I'd say it's pretty impressive that the Yankees have kept up with the Red Sox.

[nateisawesome]

I just found out that his first back will be in my town on Tuesday for the Lexington Legends. Tickets sold out in about an hour. I am so pissed off I didnt find out about this until I got off work. I have always wanted a chance to see him pitch and it looks like I wont be able to now

[LeftWideOpen]

I agree, the pitchers of today don't hold a candle to the pitchers 20, 50, 100 years ago. These guys pitched a crazy amount and could also hit, something unheard of in today's age and they got paid peanuts for it.

you agree? I was talking about how valuable pitchers are. That doesnt sound like you agree.

[hubbabubbal3ts]

obviously, but I dont see the Astros winning the World Series, they have horrible relief pitching. So unless their starters can carry them through the playoffs then theyre screwed.

you are right about the horrible relief pitching, but our offense, for the most part, makes up for it. and yes i do think that they will make the playoffs, probz a wild card team. i'd still be happy with that. believe.

[hockey0001]

Sheff is day to day and has 32 at-bats this month (Terrence Long has 25). You take out Matsui, Crosby,
Chacon and throw in Randy Johnson having 1 good start in his last 7 and I'd say it's pretty impressive that the Yankees have kept up with the Red Sox.

I wasnt arguing about it being impressive or not. I was arguing about the lineup you posted to try and give the Yankees credit with. I'll give you Sheffield, but it was still cherry picking to not include Damon and Jeter in lineup. Its impressive what theyve done with the losses theve suffered, but they still have a damn good lineup.

[__underthesun]

When did the bats stop going, last i checked it was the 5 run innings that Rodriguez, Buckholtz, & Nieve have been giving up alot latley. If they (and andy) pitched like they did in april this team would be 5 games up on St. Louis.

but they don't. and our bats have pretty much gone quiet. are we watching the same games?

you are right about the horrible relief pitching, but our offense, for the most part, makes up for it. and yes i do think that they will make the playoffs, probz a wild card team. i'd still be happy with that. believe.

agreed. beelieve.

on a side note, who knows when backe's coming back? i miss that boy. :(

[livethesounds]

my point was that the kid that i quoted was acting like the astros are the best team in the NL and the red sox/yankees have nothing on them. i wanted to remind him that they're ONE game above .500.

I actually wasent saying the astros are the best team in the NL, I got a little hot and started running off, but my point i wanted to make was it seems EVERY year when it comes to Clemens Espn starts saying the yankees and redsox are gonna get him. Where i dont belive there would be as much speculation about that if ESPN was located in the midwest or somwhere instead of right smack dab in between Red Sox and Yankees country. All im saying is Clemens is not going to EVER be a BoSock or Yankee again, as much as people want to talk about it.
The yankees were sucking it up a little for a while, granted i dont follow the American Leauge very much, but whatever, i never said the astros were the best team, and people keep saying the astros bats are dead....lets think back to last year, 1-0 loss to ATL in the 10th inning w/ Rodger on the mound. THAT IS NOT BEING ABLE TO SWING THE BAT. The Stros arnt scoring 8 runs a game, but who does? They arnt hitting AS WELL as they were at t he start of the season, but they were soo hot they couldent keep that type of a pace up. They need the pitching staff to quit giving up huge innings every other game, and the w's will start coming more often.

[LeftWideOpen]

I actually wasent saying the astros are the best team in the NL, I got a little hot and started running off, but my point i wanted to make was it seems EVERY year when it comes to Clemens Espn starts saying the yankees and redsox are gonna get him. Where i dont belive there would be as much speculation about that if ESPN was located in the midwest or somwhere instead of right smack dab in between Red Sox and Yankees country. All im saying is Clemens is not going to EVER be a BoSock or Yankee again, as much as people want to talk about it.
The yankees were sucking it up a little for a while, granted i dont follow the American Leauge very much, but whatever, i never said the astros were the best team, and people keep saying the astros bats are dead....lets think back to last year, 1-0 loss to ATL in the 10th inning w/ Rodger on the mound. THAT IS NOT BEING ABLE TO SWING THE BAT. The Stros arnt scoring 8 runs a game, but who does? They arnt hitting AS WELL as they were at t he start of the season, but they were soo hot they couldent keep that type of a pace up. They need the pitching staff to quit giving up huge innings every other game, and the w's will start coming more often.

you could have saved a bunch of time by simply saying "im just a fanboy, dont take me seriously".

[mikeford]

fuck clemens.

[__underthesun]

livethesounds, wake up. i'm an astros addict, i watch every single game, and i know where you're coming from. it's hard when every team in your city sucks -coughTEXANScough-...

however, that is no excuse for denial. we suck right now. we sucked it up through may. tomorrow's the first game of june, things could turn around, but THE BATS ARE FREAKING DEAD.

i'll tell you whose bats are on fire - the twins. every score (i don't watch AL games often) i see on like ESPN or something, they have 7+ runs.

i'm not saying we need 7+ runs every game, i'm not saying we need to win every game...i'm saying enough to be considered "still in it" after 7 innings would be nice.

[livethesounds]

livethesounds, wake up. i'm an astros addict, i watch every single game, and i know where you're coming from. it's hard when every team in your city sucks -coughTEXANScough-...

however, that is no excuse for denial. we suck right now. we sucked it up through may. tomorrow's the first game of june, things could turn around, but THE BATS ARE FREAKING DEAD.

i'll tell you whose bats are on fire - the twins. every score (i don't watch AL games often) i see on like ESPN or something, they have 7+ runs.

i'm not saying we need 7+ runs every game, i'm not saying we need to win every game...i'm saying enough to be considered "still in it" after 7 innings would be nice.

OK, after witnessing in person a 14-3 loss to the reds, and seeing a pathetic offensive showing vs the cubs, allmost getting no-hit, i will agree. right now the astros suck. before they didint, they were just in a little rut that could have easily been gotten out of, instead they just kept digging themselves deeper and deeper. Roy O is hurt, Andy is scuffling, the young guys are getting SHELLED for 8 runs in the first 3 innings on a EVERY DAY BASIS now. The bad have officially gone cold, NOBODY on the team is hitting, when a week ago it was just a few of the guys sucking it up. this is now a team effort to see how many games under .500 they can get before clemens gets back. maybe they think they have a better shot if they have to climb bak from 15 down like last year. i dont know, but they need to get their heads out of their asses.
on a totally unrelated issue, june 6th Yankees-Redsox isint the fucking World Series, why do they have to have a nationally telvised game every time they play. It was great last year seeing both of those teams getting their asses handed to them in the first round of the playoffs, hopefully it will happen again this year, IF both of them make the playoffs.

[Jamie Pham]

yeah him and his son are on the same minor league team

[GRIFFARD]

yes. that's awesome. i've always liked the astros :)