View Full Version : A Fever You Can't Sweat Out Vs.Pretty. Odd.
justinbeavers
11/02/09, 08:20 PM
Which one is better?
gr33ndayfr3ak
11/02/09, 09:47 PM
I'm interested to see the results for this one.
For me, Pretty. Odd. was far and away the better album.
jwicklun
11/02/09, 10:58 PM
a fever was a more original sound, so yeah that one.
delvec19
11/02/09, 11:28 PM
At one point it was Fever, but I'm extremely sick of that album now. So I vote Pretty. Odd.
BulleTheory
11/02/09, 11:55 PM
Pretty. Odd. blows the first album away musically.
Jaimehere
11/03/09, 02:40 AM
new Panic>Old one, their old sound was way too boring, far better musicianship and lyrics
pnkhrdwndr
11/03/09, 09:08 AM
Pretty odd is an epic fail. the beatles already existed they don't need to be revived. but I tried so hard to enjoy pretty odd and there are like three songs I don't hate. every time i've listened to it it has been forced which is to bad because their first was one of my first albums to buy
LastDeclaration
11/03/09, 09:12 AM
I think the old album simply had better songs. Their sound was definitely better on the second one, but it just didn't have the good songs to go with it.
TangledUp
11/03/09, 09:25 AM
Fever is terrible.
loganmmm
11/03/09, 01:41 PM
a fever was a more original sound, so yeah that one.
Hahaha! A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is a generic power pop record! In 2005 when it was released, bands like Fall Out Boy, The Audition, The Academy Is..., Cartel, Just Surrender, Motion City Soundtrack, The Rocket Summer, Valencia, etc. were doing, essentially, the same thing. Panic was just a band that happened to write a catchy, radio friendly song, and had the support of some big-time acts.
Obviously, I prefer Pretty. Odd.
bentleyj98
11/03/09, 04:30 PM
Fever>Pretty Odd everytime. Though I love pretty odd too
Nick Hull
11/03/09, 07:10 PM
I prefer Fever but I'm eager to hear more new stuff.
New Perspective and Oh Glory seem promising.
domotime2
11/03/09, 11:00 PM
Hahaha! A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is a generic power pop record! In 2005 when it was released, bands like Fall Out Boy, The Audition, The Academy Is..., Cartel, Just Surrender, Motion City Soundtrack, The Rocket Summer, Valencia, etc. were doing, essentially, the same thing. Panic was just a band that happened to write a catchy, radio friendly song, and had the support of some big-time acts.
Obviously, I prefer Pretty. Odd.
yup. I think he got it the other way around.... "Pretty.odd." was the original/unique sounding album he was talking about.
I remember playing a few tracks of pretty.odd in the car for my friends and they were SHOCKED when i told em it was panic at the freakin disco.
Jaimehere
11/03/09, 11:10 PM
wow Fever now is leading, wonder why people can't post WHY they voted for it and explain :-|
cause i obviously disagree, BADLY
michattack
11/06/09, 08:56 PM
fever.
stevenisfading
11/07/09, 11:26 AM
How can someone say that A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is GENERIC?!
That is seriously wrong.
I don't remember a band that has put out an album like it.
If you bunched up songs from other pop bands that came out around the same time you can differentiate which ones are from AFYCSO.
That said, I did really enjoy Pretty.Odd. but AFYCSO is so much better.
Kurt Retenauer
11/07/09, 01:53 PM
Musically speaking, P.O. is miles better. But I love both of them the same, for different reasons. But, I went with P.O. because I knew it'd need help, and I probably listen to it more.
jared091
11/07/09, 02:46 PM
Beatles ripoff> Cabaret Fall Out Boy
fightinirish217
11/07/09, 07:57 PM
Happy to see Fever winning, not the biggest Panic fan but I liked Fever and really disliked Pretty odd.
BlackoutMemory
11/08/09, 09:37 PM
I liked both of them. I just find myself remembering specific songs off of Fever more than Pretty. Odd.
Fever,even if it damages my indie cred.
NateFoundGlory
11/09/09, 12:30 PM
Beatles ripoff> Cabaret Fall Out Boy
Haha that's pretty much what it comes down to. I love both cds for entirely different reasons.
ManicanParty49
11/09/09, 01:17 PM
Fever was definitely a great pop album, but Pretty Odd definitely showed their ability to try new things.
I chose Pretty Odd, but I think they are both excellent albums.
Hahaha! A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is a generic power pop record! In 2005 when it was released, bands like Fall Out Boy, The Audition, The Academy Is..., Cartel, Just Surrender, Motion City Soundtrack, The Rocket Summer, Valencia, etc. were doing, essentially, the same thing. Panic was just a band that happened to write a catchy, radio friendly song, and had the support of some big-time acts.
Obviously, I prefer Pretty. Odd.
A Fever really doesn't sound too much like those bands' albums you mentioned. Perhaps some FOB, MCS, or TAI, but that's all.
The album is fairly unique.
-ACA
HelloxAlone
11/09/09, 01:30 PM
I loved Fever, couldn't ever really get into Pretty. Odd.
PopPunkKid
11/09/09, 09:55 PM
Pretty.Odd. by FAR.
karadoll
11/10/09, 01:15 PM
I love them both. Don't make me choose!
Indoor Living
11/10/09, 01:24 PM
new Panic>Old one, their old sound was way too boring, far better musicianship and lyrics
Their old sound is boring? I find that extremely wrong. It might not be original or groundbreaking, but it's definitely not boring.
JordanBuell
11/10/09, 02:41 PM
Beatles ripoff> Cabaret Fall Out Boy
this.
ghsNICK!
11/11/09, 01:17 PM
Pretty. Odd. = Pretty. Awesome.
Formatfun
11/11/09, 03:05 PM
I like them both so much, but I chose PO. I'm not sure why.
Alex_supertramp
11/11/09, 08:47 PM
I like them both so much, but I chose PO. I'm not sure why.
I also love both albums and also chose PO....maybe that says something.
Time Bomb Clock
11/12/09, 12:02 AM
Fever, never could get into PO. Too heavy on the Beatles influence for me. Not to say it isn't an amazing album, just not what I happen to be very interested in.
tonighttonight0
11/12/09, 07:37 AM
Pretty Odd is at least somewhat listenable..
Pretty Odd! Good record vs. a not-good record = my reasoning.
SuchAPerson22
11/14/09, 09:46 AM
Fever FTW!
blinkme
11/14/09, 06:31 PM
Hahaha! A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is a generic power pop record! In 2005 when it was released, bands like Fall Out Boy, The Audition, The Academy Is..., Cartel, Just Surrender, Motion City Soundtrack, The Rocket Summer, Valencia, etc. were doing, essentially, the same thing. Panic was just a band that happened to write a catchy, radio friendly song, and had the support of some big-time acts.
Obviously, I prefer Pretty. Odd.
With the exception of the vocals, Panic sound nothing like those bands.
I personally have never been a big fan of the band, but out of the two releases, I preferred A Fever You Can't Sweat Out.
Theseventhson
11/15/09, 08:19 AM
I can't stand to listen to Pretty. Odd, Fever is alright, though.
spansen
11/15/09, 05:09 PM
pretty. odd., absolutely.
Deadbolt23
11/15/09, 06:29 PM
I liked that they tried to change their sound up and be a bit more original with Pretty. Odd. but I don't really think it worked for them.
I think some bits of the album are really good though.
And Hours Pass
11/16/09, 01:40 PM
Hahaha! A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is a generic power pop record! In 2005 when it was released, bands like Fall Out Boy, The Audition, The Academy Is..., Cartel, Just Surrender, Motion City Soundtrack, The Rocket Summer, Valencia, etc. were doing, essentially, the same thing. Panic was just a band that happened to write a catchy, radio friendly song, and had the support of some big-time acts.
Obviously, I prefer Pretty. Odd.
yup. I think he got it the other way around.... "Pretty.odd." was the original/unique sounding album he was talking about.
I remember playing a few tracks of pretty.odd in the car for my friends and they were SHOCKED when i told em it was panic at the freakin disco.
Let me preface with the fact that I enjoyed both albums. I don't think that AFYCSO was necessarily super unique, but Pretty.Odd. certainly wasn't either. Pretty.Odd. had an incredibly clear influence and was far from groundbreaking. With that said, I thought their musicianship actually came through on that record. I think that AFYCSO may have had vocal similarities that lent themselves to the pop-punk genre, but their lyrics and electronic mix were not run of the mill at all. I really can't think back to a band that was doing the same thing at the time the album came out. TAI, FOB, Cartel, and Rocket Summer don't sound anything like AFYCSO with the exception of maybe Cartel's A (I can't speak to the other bands because I honestly don't listen to them).
Both albums were good, but I can listen to AFYCSO all the way through. Do You Know What I'm Seeing, The Piano knows something I don't know, and Behind the Sea made it hard for me to get through Pretty. Odd. without skipping.
Beatles ripoff> Cabaret Fall Out Boy
I don't know why, but this made me laugh.
crypticv24
11/16/09, 03:27 PM
Haven't listened to Panic for a few years now. That said, I listened to Pretty. Odd. once and deleted it, because it was one of the most boring albums I've ever heard. I'm not saying Fever is really a great album, because it's not, but at least it's catchy.
anamericangod
11/16/09, 03:40 PM
Fever.
ahhh.. i'm the 299th vote for afycso. that's gonna piss me off.. someone help?
Jay Sean Fenris
09/07/11, 05:27 PM
Fever, by a good margin. It's more entertaining than Pretty. Odd. and I was never the biggest Beatles fan.
Fever was fast, catchy, extremely hectic, and had many different styles while still being unusually coherent. Listening to I Write Sins, Not Tragedies, their most famous and probably their catchiest song, but it by far their most bland one. Most people probably judge from that song alone, most of their other songs were way more dynamic and abrupt. More than anything else, I enjoyed the instruments that accompanied the singing. As well as the 80's reminiscent dance beat in The Only Difference, the odd and genre-savvy bridge in London Beckoned songs, the odd song structure, subtle but ever present punk influences, lyrics that refer to books that their fans would have no idea about, and they weren't just another song about some girl they 'loved.'
I enjoyed this album more than almost any other mainstream pop rock record.
I've been impressed by their instrumentation in each and every one of their albums.
incognitojones
09/07/11, 05:58 PM
Fever has way too many jams for this to even come close.
Jay Sean Fenris
09/07/11, 06:40 PM
Fever has way too many jams for this to even come close.
That's why it isn't close.
incognitojones
09/07/11, 06:52 PM
That's why it isn't close.
Are you agreeing, yeah?
Neo Cassady
09/07/11, 08:06 PM
Fever.
AFYCSO pretty much ruled 9th grade for me.
mike'smannequin
09/07/11, 10:50 PM
feva
mike'smannequin
09/07/11, 10:52 PM
pretty odd was just okay
Fever. I really liked the whole vibe of PO and it had some fantastic songs on it but it also had a fair few duds.
Explode
09/08/11, 05:44 AM
There is no contest for this. Fever is one of the most underrated albums out there. The album had such creativity, and brought such a different style to the table. I enjoyed every track on it.
Jay Sean Fenris
09/08/11, 12:53 PM
Are you agreeing, yeah?
Of course.
DanPiazza
09/08/11, 01:56 PM
This is one of those questions that has a right and wrong answer.
Dodge725
09/12/11, 08:57 PM
Fever had some cool creativity with its music (But It's Better If You Do & There's a Good Reason......) as well as some provacativity (I don't think that's a word and if it is it's a poor description but I can't think of a better one). That album had elements not common at the time in the genre, while Pretty.Odd. had a lot of build-up for a completely different sound that seemed to want to be the Beatles with lyrics that made even less sense than the Beatles.
majinsharingan
09/13/11, 10:40 AM
There is no contest for this. Pretty. Odd is one of the most underrated albums out there. The album had such creativity, and brought such a different style to the table. I enjoyed every track on it.
This actually. Fever, unless I'm missing something, is not an incredibly unique piece of work nor is it underrated at all.
This actually. Fever, unless I'm missing something, is not an incredibly unique piece of work nor is it underrated at all.
Really? What else is like Fever?
majinsharingan
09/13/11, 11:05 AM
Really? What else is like Fever?
I didn't say there were specific things that are exactly like Fever, I said Fever isn't incredibly unique which a lot of people here seem to think.
I didn't say there were specific things that are exactly like Fever, I said Fever isn't incredibly unique which a lot of people here seem to think.
If there's nothing like it doesn't that make it unique?
majinsharingan
09/13/11, 11:57 AM
If there's nothing like it doesn't that make it unique?
Just because there's nothing exactly like it doesn't mean there aren't things that are similar. And I don't see how it's unique, especially so unique that it's worth pointing out that it's unique. It's a good album, but it's not that great, Pretty. Odd is the unique one out of the two.
Dodge725
09/13/11, 12:32 PM
I can give you one major thing that was just like Pretty. Odd. making it not so unique: The entire Beatles catalog.
Jay Sean Fenris
09/13/11, 12:49 PM
Just because there's nothing exactly like it doesn't mean there aren't things that are similar. And I don't see how it's unique, especially so unique that it's worth pointing out that it's unique. It's a good album, but it's not that great, Pretty. Odd is the unique one out of the two.
No, not really.
majinsharingan
09/13/11, 12:55 PM
No, not really.
I really can't see how Fever is more unique than Pretty. Odd.
Just because there's nothing exactly like it doesn't mean there aren't things that are similar. And I don't see how it's unique, especially so unique that it's worth pointing out that it's unique. It's a good album, but it's not that great, Pretty. Odd is the unique one out of the two.
There are things similar to everything, what makes something unique is that there's nothing else like it. There's nothing really like Fever so it's more unique than Pretty. Odd.
Explode
09/14/11, 04:43 AM
This actually. Fever, unless I'm missing something, is not an incredibly unique piece of work nor is it underrated at all.
Haha, you threw me for a loop there. I was like, "wait a minute..."
I agree with SpyKi though...
majinsharingan
09/15/11, 05:32 PM
There are things similar to everything, what makes something unique is that there's nothing else like it. There's nothing really like Fever so it's more unique than Pretty. Odd.
What is exactly like Pretty. Odd then? Because I've heard stuff similar to Fever, never anything similar to Pretty. Odd. Not even close.
Jay Sean Fenris
09/15/11, 05:47 PM
What is exactly like Pretty. Odd then? Because I've heard stuff similar to Fever, never anything similar to Pretty. Odd. Not even close.
Not even close? Well, one reviewer from another site said that the album would have been an amazing album...if it were made 40 years earlier. That's probably why.
The Beatles. The Beach Boys.
Ryan Ross pretty much went out of his way to replicate their styles while still trying to make it their own.
majinsharingan
09/15/11, 05:50 PM
Not even close? Well, one reviewer from another site said that the album would have been an amazing album...if it were made 40 years earlier. That's probably why.
The Beatles. The Beach Boys.
Ryan Ross pretty much went out of his way to replicate their styles while still trying to make it their own.
Yeah I can tell, I was more thinking along the lines of, no one does that stuff today anymore. I don't know, I don't see how Fever is a "unique" album. I mean it's not a ripoff or anything but it isn't so special and different that I would call it unique when describing it.
Jay Sean Fenris
09/15/11, 06:16 PM
Yeah I can tell, I was more thinking along the lines of, no one does that stuff today anymore. I don't know, I don't see how Fever is a "unique" album. I mean it's not a ripoff or anything but it isn't so special and different that I would call it unique when describing it.
Odd song structure for a mainstream album (except in some particular tracks like the first two singles). They used a lot of different instruments (what I liked most in the album). It had many dancy, cabaret, circus-esque, and theatrical moments within their brand of pop rock (that had slight punk tendencies). The Only Difference, London, But It's Better If You Do, and I Constantly Thank have very abrupt bridges. Intermission is a like an 80s rave dance-number that turns into a haunting, solo piano piece.
Songs regarding irregular pop themes: Camisado and Nails were about Ryan's father's drinking problems (I think he might have died, I dunno), Time To Dance was about a book called Invisible Monsters (it's about a once beautiful model, and a transvestite, I believe), I Write Sins was about the sanctity of (someone else's) marriage (not just "my boy/girlfriend just broke up with me" crap), London was about fame also more like tearing through the music industry whether or not some people liked it.
But the two songs that are really the only unique songs are the last two tracks. They were both old-fashion narratives while being very different from each other.
I suppose that suffices, but I felt that it was a bit too single-minded. Though this is seriously one of my favorite mainstream albums to ever come out - and I only listened to it this summer. I've never once paid them attention before: I don't know a lot about Pretty.Odd. because I didn't enjoy it quite as much.
majinsharingan
09/15/11, 06:36 PM
Odd song structure for a mainstream album (except in some particular tracks like the first two singles). They used a lot of different instruments (what I liked most in the album). It had many dancy, cabaret, circus-esque, and theatrical moments within their brand of pop rock (that had slight punk tendencies). The Only Difference, London, But It's Better If You Do, and I Constantly Thank have very abrupt bridges. Intermission is a like an 80s rave dance-number that turns into a haunting, solo piano piece.
Songs regarding irregular pop themes: Camisado and Nails were about Ryan's father's drinking problems (I think he might have died, I dunno), Time To Dance was about a book called Invisible Monsters (it's about a once beautiful model, and a transvestite, I believe), I Write Sins was about the sanctity of (someone else's) marriage (not just "my boy/girlfriend just broke up with me" crap), London was about fame also more like tearing through the music industry whether or not some people liked it.
But the two songs that are really the only unique songs are the last two tracks. They were both old-fashion narratives while being very different from each other.
I suppose that suffices, but I felt that it was a bit too single-minded. Though this is seriously one of my favorite mainstream albums to ever come out - and I only listened to it this summer. I've never once paid them attention before: I don't know a lot about Pretty.Odd. because I didn't enjoy it quite as much.
All of those things are true, except the part about Fever using a lot of instruments. I thought that statement sounded wrong so I looked it up...here's the list of instruments used on Fever...
Brendon Urie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendon_Urie) – lead vocals, synthesizers, programming, keyboards, rhythm guitar, piano
Ryan Ross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Ross) – lead guitar, keyboards, organ, piano, accordion, vocals
Brent Wilson – bass[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fever_You_Can%27t_Sweat_Out#cite_ note-allmusic.com-29)
Spencer Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Smith) – drums, percussion, vocals Additional musicians
Heather Stebbins – cello, double bass
William Brousserd – trumpet
Samantha Bynes – violinand then Pretty. Odd
Brendon Urie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendon_Urie) – lead and backing vocals, acoustic and electric guitars, bass, ukulele, piano, keyboards, synthesizers, harpsichord, organ, programming
Ryan Ross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Ross) – lead and backing vocals, acoustic and electric guitars, harmonica
Jon Walker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Walker) – bass, acoustic and electric guitars, backing vocals
Spencer Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Smith_%28musician%29) – drums, percussion, backing vocals Additional instruments
Michael Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Davis) - trombone
Isobel Griffiths - orchestra contractor
Tony Kadleck - trumpet
Jeff Kievit - flugelhorn, piccolo trumpet, trumpet
Peter Lale - viola
Chris Laurence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Laurence) - double bass
David Andrew Mann - clarinet, sax (alto)
Hearth Rob Mathes - producer
Rob Mathes - additional guitars, keyboards, mandolin, piano, orchestal arrangements
Perry Montague-Mason - violin
Sandra Park - concert master, string contractor
Tony Pleeth - cello
Rick Romick - wurlitzer
Roger Rosenberg - sax (baritone)
Andy Snitzer - sax (tenor)
Warren Zielinski - violinLike you said about having more instruments being a plus, that's why I like Pretty Odd better. It uses a lot of instruments, something that is uncommon in mainstream bands today. I'm not as into Panic as you seem to be, so I can't describe each song piece by piece but I just like the structure and style of Pretty. Odd's songs. Although I love both albums, I just prefer Pretty. Odd. Honestly, When The Day Met The Night and She Had The World push Pretty. Odd over Fever for me, it's pretty close. xD
But if it's any consolation, neither album comes close to this.
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Jay Sean Fenris
09/15/11, 07:27 PM
All of those things are true, except the part about Fever using a lot of instruments. I thought that statement sounded wrong so I looked it up...
You said "which is unique" so I assumed you meant you wanted me to compare Fever to mainstream pop in general, and not in particular comparison to Pretty.Odd. :\ Fever does use a lot instruments, in that sense. All their albums do.
And even if one is more unique than the other, unique doesn't always = quality music: it's just a plus, more than anything else.
I liked both albums too. I just didn't get into Pretty.Odd. as much. I liked that the newer album was like both their older ones in differing ways, but it was a bit disappointing.
Dodge725
09/15/11, 07:32 PM
But even though there were more instruments, they weren't used in a unique sound. Take the violin, on Pretty. Odd. it was used in predictable string parts, nothing you wouldn't expect. Now take the quick violin solo at the end of Build God. That was unexpected, really awesome, and added character to the song.
And you keep saying mainstream but the fact that they were popular doesn't mean they sounded like everyone else. O think people liked them because they were different. For most people who like that CD that I know, their favorite songs aren't the singles but the quirkier ones like Time to Dance, There's a Good Reason...., and Build God. (Again not talking about those pop lovers who only know I Write Sins. I'm talking actual fans)
Jay Sean Fenris
09/15/11, 07:35 PM
But even though there were more instruments, they weren't used in a unique sound. Take the violin, on Pretty. Odd. it was used in predictable string parts, nothing you wouldn't expect. Now take the quick violin solo at the end of Build God. That was unexpected, really awesome, and added character to the song.
And you keep saying mainstream but the fact that they were popular doesn't mean they sounded like everyone else. O think people liked them because they were different. For most people who like that CD that I know, their favorite songs aren't the singles but the quirkier ones like Time to Dance, There's a Good Reason...., and Build God. (Again not talking about those pop lovers who only know I Write Sins. I'm talking actual fans)
It sounds like you're referring to both of us?
Dodge725
09/15/11, 07:37 PM
For all intensive purposes, yes. It's more so just me throwing my opinion out there.
Jay Sean Fenris
09/15/11, 07:41 PM
For all intensive purposes, yes. It's more so just me throwing my opinion out there.
I pretty much wrote a mini-review stating why Fever was unique to a good extent, and how it was much more so when taking into account that they were mainstream: that, even though the album was mainstream, it was very different from it's peers.
I Write Sins was probably their blandest (but catchiest) song on Fever.
oneletteraway
09/15/11, 08:50 PM
I simply connected with the songs on AFYCSO when I heard it. Don't get me wrong, Pretty. Odd. was an amazing album, but Fever just hit at the perfect time for me.
Dodge725
09/15/11, 09:09 PM
I pretty much wrote a mini-review stating why Fever was unique to a good extent, and how it was much more so when taking into account that they were mainstream: that, even though the album was mainstream, it was very different from it's peers.
I Write Sins was probably their blandest (but catchiest) song on Fever.
And I agree on both points.
AussieBoy
09/16/11, 05:54 AM
FEVER!!!!
Pretty odd isn't even panic. It's some weird cover band
That fever dance, pop, punk, burlesque sound will always be Panic! At the disco
Jennurna Gray
09/16/11, 06:56 PM
Pretty.Odd.
brndnschltfld
09/18/11, 11:53 AM
Fever.
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