Here's your chemical weapons

[BrandNewRock05]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85273,00.html
suck on this

[evil zach]

Further, more sophisticated tests will be necessary to determine whether the find is evidence of an illegal weapons program.


So far, no conclusive evidence of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons have been reported by coalition forces.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Further, more sophisticated tests will be necessary to determine whether the find is evidence of an illegal weapons program.


So far, no conclusive evidence of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons have been reported by coalition forces.
its pretty much for sure. they just have to finalize it and make it official.

[yeat182]

i agree with zack that there is no conclusive evidence, and that there has to be further tests, but more and more reports like this come out everyday, so i would say that it is only a matter of time...

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
its pretty much for sure. they just have to finalize it and make it official.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030429/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_banned_weapons&cid=540&ncid=716

sorry.

[Alex Djaferis]

i just saw on CNN 10 mins ago that they still havnt found anything at all tahts conclusive and supports the notion that they had WMD.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by Safetyin#
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030429/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_banned_weapons&cid=540&ncid=716

sorry.
why the hell would they need rocket fuel? plus that six of spades already said that saddam got rid of all wmds

[evil zach]

Originally posted by Safetyin#
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030429/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_banned_weapons&cid=540&ncid=716

sorry.
I'm gonna start keeping track of how many aleged chemical weapons finds are proven false

[yeat182]

Originally posted by evil zach
I'm gonna start keeping track of how many aleged chemical weapons finds are proven false

i believe we are up to 4

[evil zach]

thanx

[nubi nere]

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
why the hell would they need rocket fuel? plus that six of spades already said that saddam got rid of all wmds
no offense, but admit it, you were just wrong about the chemical weapons. one thing you need to learn about our media is that we NEVER wait until something is confirmed, we just jump on it.

[atomic_youth]

i doubt there are any WMD's to find. which makes us look like a bunch of asses for invading Iraq in the first place. If in the end we don't find anything, we better find a good excuse.

[Alex Djaferis]

I dont thnk there are any WMD, finished ones at least. I wouldnt be surprised if they were in planning stages though
However, if there were WMD's, another possibility is that a neighbouring country friendly wiht Iraq may be harboring them...

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by PeeDster
I dont thnk there are any WMD, finished ones at least. I wouldnt be surprised if they were in planning stages though
However, if there were WMD's, another possibility is that a neighbouring country friendly wiht Iraq may be harboring them...
Do any of you guys honestly think they dont have WMD's? I mean, if they didn't then why did they evade UN inpectors and keep them out for 12 years, and then when they finally let them in, Saddam turns around and lies to us and still doesnt give us a full tour. Its like those people who refuse to take drug tests. Sure you havent actually prooved someone guilty, yet just the fact that they refuse a drug test or brethalizer test if you get pulled over drunk, its just as good as guilty. Implied consent rule.

[NOFXdesendents5]

Fuck yeah! Go us!

[tyte emo]

Originally posted by NOFXdesendents5
Fuck yeah! Go us!

What the hell are you talking about?

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by tyte emo
What the hell are you talking about?
What the hell are YOU talking about?

[ChrisM69]

what i dont get, is how the united states is now saying like, we found the weapons, the united nations couldn't, it sure pays off to attack iraq. Wut r they talkin about? we didnt even let the weapons inspectors do their jobs, Instead, we kicked them out and let a bbunch of soldier run around, shoot guns, and look in bunkers

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by ChrisM69
what i dont get, is how the united states is now saying like, we found the weapons, the united nations couldn't, it sure pays off to attack iraq. Wut r they talkin about? we didnt even let the weapons inspectors do their jobs, Instead, we kicked them out and let a bbunch of soldier run around, shoot guns, and look in bunkers

yes we did, they just choose to not look very hard and to inform the iraqi's as to where they would be looking.

[xTSTLx]

Originally posted by ChrisM69
what i dont get, is how the united states is now saying like, we found the weapons, the united nations couldn't, it sure pays off to attack iraq. Wut r they talkin about? we didnt even let the weapons inspectors do their jobs, Instead, we kicked them out and let a bbunch of soldier run around, shoot guns, and look in bunkers


do you actually think the inspectors were going to find something?...iraq is a pretty big place, plus with summer coming, bush needed to make a move before summer b/c the weather gets crazy

[yeat182]

Originally posted by ChrisM69
what i dont get, is how the united states is now saying like, we found the weapons, the united nations couldn't, it sure pays off to attack iraq. Wut r they talkin about? we didnt even let the weapons inspectors do their jobs, Instead, we kicked them out and let a bbunch of soldier run around, shoot guns, and look in bunkers


the inspectors had 12 years to find something...

[evil zach]

Perhaps thats a bit of a hint that there was nothing to be found.

[charly horse]

did they ever find the chemical weapons?

[yeat182]

Originally posted by evil zach
Perhaps thats a bit of a hint that there was nothing to be found.

possibly, but it could also be a hint of either the ineptitude of the UN or a hint of just how well the Iraqi's were at hiding their weapons.

[evil zach]

Originally posted by alsublimereject
did they ever find the chemical weapons?
no

[NOFXdescendents]

I dont give a fuck whether there were weapons or not! I think Saddam was a fucking moron anyway. It is great we finally got involved, if anything, it was late!

[charly horse]

Originally posted by evil zach
no

i see...why not?

[evil zach]

Originally posted by NOFXdescendents
I dont give a fuck whether there were weapons or not! I think Saddam was a fucking moron anyway. It is great we finally got involved, if anything, it was late!
Many Canadians arn't too fond of bushie. Dose that mean we can invade the US now. I don't like the way my neighbour raises his children . Can invade his home?

[evil zach]

Originally posted by alsublimereject
i see...why not?
Because they magicly teleported themselves to syria

[EmoMoose86]

Originally posted by evil zach
Because they magicly teleported


I want one of those

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by evil zach
. I don't like the way my neighbour raises his children . Can invade his home?

Say you saw your neighbor (saddum) rapeing and torturing his kids (Iraqis) what would you do? Call the Police (UN)? And say they (UN) went to his house (iraq) and saw the abuse and did nothing and left. What would you do then, continue sitting in your nice house and just listen to the screams and beatings? Wouldn't you try to stop it. Wouldn't you care?

[evil zach]

what if in trying to stop it, I end up killing one of his children, and when all is said and done, I donlt know what happend to my neighbour? would it have been worth it?

[apathetic]

we wont find anything, its either buried in the middle of the desert, or hell maybe the french helped them hide it, i mean they gave amnesty to the republican guard rite?

[evil zach]

in most cases, finding nothing is a sign of non-existence

[therealhebm]

Originally posted by evil zach
Many Canadians arn't too fond of bushie. Dose that mean we can invade the US now. I don't like the way my neighbour raises his children . Can invade his home?

when you say that, youre saying bush is no better than saddam. i know its very punk rock to believe we americans have some facist dictator running out country, but it just isnt true.

[charly horse]

they should atleast find saddam first. they havent even found osama so what is the chance theyll find the weapons?

[evil zach]

Originally posted by therealhebm
when you say that, youre saying bush is no better than saddam. i know its very punk rock to believe we americans have some facist dictator running out country, but it just isnt true.
That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm just replying to nofxdesendents when he says that the war on iraq was justified simply because the US government and many americans ont agree with saddam. If that is the logic being used then a strick against the US by canada would also be justified.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
Many Canadians arn't too fond of bushie. Dose that mean we can invade the US now. I don't like the way my neighbour raises his children . Can invade his home?
First off, the US would kick Canada's ass any day of the weak. For shit's sake, our eagle scouts could kick Canada's ass. Anyway, Bush doesnt murder people in the streets by the thousands. How often has Bush gassed his own country? Torn out the tounges of those who spoke against him? Killed off all political opponents? Nada. And if your neighbor is raising his child in a dangerous and harmful way, child services will handle that. but if all he does is let them watch tv all day and you dont approve of that, tough shit. hes not doing anything illegal.

[WithStamin]

I don't like the way my neighbour raises his children . Can invade his home? Let me draw a more accurate comparison.

I know that my neighbor is building explosives to take down City Hall, and he has been under investigation for such things before. What's more, he uses his children as slave labor to help make his explosives. However, he has paid off the police to not investigate him. Should I take this into my own hands, knowing that I can easily stop him?

I think the answer is yes.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by WithStamin
Let me draw a more accurate comparison.

I know that my neighbor is building explosives to take down City Hall, and he has been under investigation for such things before. What's more, he uses his children as slave labor to help make his explosives. However, he has paid off the police to not investigate him. Should I take this into my own hands, knowing that I can easily stop him?

I think the answer is yes.
yeah the answer is yes, but thats not an accurate comparisson. chances are if the guy was building weapons in his garage and had paid off cops, you would end up getting yourself killed. a better representation would be if a gang was "cappin' mo fo's" in the street and you were head of the PD and you went in there and stopped it. that seems to tally up with all of the parallels.

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by evil zach
what if in trying to stop it, I end up killing one of his children, and when all is said and done, I donlt know what happend to my neighbour? would it have been worth it?

But if you accidently kill one but save 100 wouldn't that be worth it? And the purpose wasn't as much to go after the neighbor but to save his children and destroy his ability to hurt other.

[tyte emo]

Killing one to save a hundred is probably better than leaving all 100 to die. However, the point is that there are usually other ways to save the whole 100 of em without sparing one life.

[tyte emo]

Originally posted by yeat182
the ineptitude of the UN

So now it's the US's "ineptitude" right?

[evil zach]

Originally posted by WithStamin
Let me draw a more accurate comparison.

I know that my neighbor is building explosives to take down City Hall, and he has been under investigation for such things before. What's more, he uses his children as slave labor to help make his explosives. However, he has paid off the police to not investigate him. Should I take this into my own hands, knowing that I can easily stop him?

I think the answer is yes.
Ok, to make it even more acurate, I know that mey neighbour is building bombs in his garage to take down city hall. whne asked to prove it, i can't. I then trun my argument around to say it will benifet his children in the long, too draw attention away from the fact that i can't prove the existence of these bombs. Mean while I make ties with with other neighbours who have an even worse record of abuse towards his children and whos family memebers have tired to harm me in the past, and many still wish to do so (saudi arabia). I have the support of my neighbourhood, and then next streest over, as well as a couple side streats, but generally the town is against me. I decie to go for it anyway and i enter his home, shoot a bunch of stuff, kill a few of his friends and family, cause much chaos, and I still can't find the weapons.

[WithStamin]

I still can't find the weapons Only because he hid them in his basement or gave them to another neighbor.

[evil zach]

I can't prove they are at his neighbours and when ever i belive to have found somthing in his basement, it truns out to be false

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by evil zach
I can't prove they are at his neighbours and when ever i belive to have found somthing in his basement, it truns out to be false
yet he is still ripping tounges out of his childrens mouths and shooting them in the head in front of his other children. wanna do something now?

[evil zach]

when his chelidren protest my actions, and tell me to leave, I shoot them.

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by evil zach
when his chelidren protest my actions, and tell me to leave, I shoot them.

so now a small minority of the children speak for the whole group?

[evil zach]

the majority of the children arn;t speaking. they choose not to be represnted

[Safetyin#]

Originally posted by evil zach
the majority of the children arn;t speaking. they choose not to be represnted

Again most people have more respect for themselves then to dance around in the streets, beating themselves and cutting themselves. Most are probably quietly tring to return the country to its pre-saddum days.

[Matthew]

Originally posted by Safetyin#
Again most people have more respect for themselves then to dance around in the streets, beating themselves and cutting themselves. Most are probably quietly tring to return the country to its pre-saddum days.

Or turn it into a fundamentalist shi'ite theocracy like Iran, thus furthering the oppression of the Kurds and the Sunni minority in Iraq. Not to mention strengthening bonds with the theocratic Iran, presenting a large threat to the US as well as surrounding nations which are predominantly Sunni. They have already contracted a Shi'ite ayatollah like the one who ruled iran at the time of the Iran/Iraq conflict (when fe bought old Hussein hsif rist weapons!)

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by ScreamoEMOBoy
(when fe bought old Hussein hsif rist weapons!)
first off, hooked on phonics man. second, that was almost a quarter century ago. a lot has changed since then. things change. at one point we were fighting wars against england. now they are our biggest friend in time of war. france and germany have always hated each other, now they are unified by their hate of the us. we were mortal enemies of japan. now we are they're biggest buyer of goods (not to mention the people who got them on their feet). what i am saying is friendships change. that was a long time ago. dont dwell on the past, its over.