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elvis2x
06/04/06, 11:50 AM
It's a waste of space.

50% of threads are made about bands that are considered "emo" nowadays, and some elitist genre-obsessed people go and bitch and say "that's not emo, listen to (no-name band), (another no-name band), that's emo".

The other half are about people discussing what's emo or not. The truth is, people go to great lengths about shit that doesn't even matter anyway.

My point is, real emo (for lack of a better word), such as Rites of Spring, Circle Takes The Square, and all that obscure stuff could be classified as hardcore. The other emo that most people listen to, regardless of it really being emo or not, (Fall Out Boy, Taking Back Sunday, even Panic At The Disco), could go under pop, rock, or any of the other boards. This board is useless... everything discussed here fits into the other boards.

I mean, if there's an emo board, there can also be a grunge board, or brit-pop board, or more specific crap, but nobody wants that, right?

Blake Solomon
06/04/06, 12:13 PM
There is no space being taken up by this board, it's on the internet. But in all seriousness, your points arent very valid. Who decides what doesnt matter, this is a MUSIC website. There is a general forum that people post tons of stuff like "lets start a poop thread", or "whats your favorite hot pocket." While those threads might not mean much to me, they obviously mean something to the 300 people who always post on them. And while you say that these arguments dont matter, in the next paragraph, you do the same thing that you have condemned. You gave your own personal opinion on emo, even thought that "doesn't matter". There are plenty of bands that could go into more than one category, because they mix types of music or they flat out just change their sound. I wouldnt mind a brit-pop board or more specific boards, but its up to the admins of this website to choose what goes in these forumsand Im sure if people wanted them bad enough, we would get them.

Anyways, my point is, let us keep this board. Dont visit here if you don't like it. We are obviously getting "closer" to a true opinion on what emo is because I keep seeing the same band names listed (RoS, Circle takes the square, etc.). I think that is could be called progress, but we must all remember who won the race in the end, the tortoise or the hare?

Spicoli hey bud
06/04/06, 12:56 PM
this is the 3rd time someone made a thread about this.

heyRomanticA__x
06/04/06, 01:04 PM
I cannot wait until this forum gets a moderator.

x togepi x
06/04/06, 03:19 PM
Gorbechav, shut down this board.

but seriously,

The threadstarter is kind of right. There should be more threads about emo bands and less random crap threads like this one, but it's really hard when our threads on real emo bands get bumped off the front page by tons of threads talking about what emo is, bands that aren't emo, and lame jokes that aren't every funny. That's the exact reason I tried to start the thread where I argued with a bunch of people. I thought that people would condense their debates into that forum, but I was wrong.

Do I think that we should shut this down? No. that would be stupid. At the point where threadstarter tells us that emo is a stupid subgenre, he ignores the point that all genres are just subsets of the phrase music. If we can justify not having an emo forum because we could talk about true emo bands in hardcore and fake emo bands in pop punk, then we can justify getting rid of every subforum and just leaving absolutepunk with a general music section where everyone talks about every kind of band ever.

The reason we have an emo forum instead of grunge is because emo's still alive. We could have a grunge forum, but I doubt anyone would really talk in it. It'd be an essentially dead forum, thus Ap.net doesn't feel like wasting the bandwith . Even if this forum is completely stupid, people are still using it. So yeah, you're right, we could have forums on hyperspecific genres. We just don't because there's no market for them.

But, the reason this forum is stupid is not because of "elitist genre-obsessed people", but because of the majority of people's inability to have a decent conversation about anything without screwing it all up. People aren't listening to each other, and that's the huge problem. That's why we're a joke.

It's moreso the fault of everyone who ignored the fact that we had a specific thread to discuss what emo is in and elected to make their own posts about it, even if they were joking, than it is us that actually care about these sorts of things. If we had mods to clean this forum up, it'd be fine, but we don't.

BreakerBreaker
06/04/06, 03:22 PM
Using this logic everything could fall under the punk or rock forums.

Blake Solomon
06/04/06, 09:35 PM
Gorbechav, shut down this board.

but seriously,

The threadstarter is kind of right. There should be more threads about emo bands and less random crap threads like this one, but it's really hard when our threads on real emo bands get bumped off the front page by tons of threads talking about what emo is, bands that aren't emo, and lame jokes that aren't every funny. That's the exact reason I tried to start the thread where I argued with a bunch of people. I thought that people would condense their debates into that forum, but I was wrong.

Do I think that we should shut this down? No. that would be stupid. At the point where threadstarter tells us that emo is a stupid subgenre, he ignores the point that all genres are just subsets of the phrase music. If we can justify not having an emo forum because we could talk about true emo bands in hardcore and fake emo bands in pop punk, then we can justify getting rid of every subforum and just leaving absolutepunk with a general music section where everyone talks about every kind of band ever.

The reason we have an emo forum instead of grunge is because emo's still alive. We could have a grunge forum, but I doubt anyone would really talk in it. It'd be an essentially dead forum, thus Ap.net doesn't feel like wasting the bandwith . Even if this forum is completely stupid, people are still using it. So yeah, you're right, we could have forums on hyperspecific genres. We just don't because there's no market for them.

But, the reason this forum is stupid is not because of "elitist genre-obsessed people", but because of the majority of people's inability to have a decent conversation about anything without screwing it all up. People aren't listening to each other, and that's the huge problem. That's why we're a joke.

It's moreso the fault of everyone who ignored the fact that we had a specific thread to discuss what emo is in and elected to make their own posts about it, even if they were joking, than it is us that actually care about these sorts of things. If we had mods to clean this forum up, it'd be fine, but we don't.


Right again, sir. Everytime I get on this site there is a new thread about the same old thing on this forum. "what is emo", "why are people emo", "this is a joke". I have basically given the same answer on every one of these posts to maybe show people how pointless these threads are. I do think we are moving in the right direction though, and one day, this place will be glorious. You should be mod of this forum, dude.

Jra1
06/05/06, 04:43 PM
if more people werent ignorant to what emo actually was, we wouldn't have these problems

Rock
06/06/06, 10:08 AM
this is the 3rd time someone made a thread about this.
i was thinking the same thing.

Broken Parachute
06/06/06, 05:28 PM
Gorbechav, shut down this board.

but seriously,

The threadstarter is kind of right. There should be more threads about emo bands and less random crap threads like this one, but it's really hard when our threads on real emo bands get bumped off the front page by tons of threads talking about what emo is, bands that aren't emo, and lame jokes that aren't every funny. That's the exact reason I tried to start the thread where I argued with a bunch of people. I thought that people would condense their debates into that forum, but I was wrong.

Do I think that we should shut this down? No. that would be stupid. At the point where threadstarter tells us that emo is a stupid subgenre, he ignores the point that all genres are just subsets of the phrase music. If we can justify not having an emo forum because we could talk about true emo bands in hardcore and fake emo bands in pop punk, then we can justify getting rid of every subforum and just leaving absolutepunk with a general music section where everyone talks about every kind of band ever.

The reason we have an emo forum instead of grunge is because emo's still alive. We could have a grunge forum, but I doubt anyone would really talk in it. It'd be an essentially dead forum, thus Ap.net doesn't feel like wasting the bandwith . Even if this forum is completely stupid, people are still using it. So yeah, you're right, we could have forums on hyperspecific genres. We just don't because there's no market for them.

But, the reason this forum is stupid is not because of "elitist genre-obsessed people", but because of the majority of people's inability to have a decent conversation about anything without screwing it all up. People aren't listening to each other, and that's the huge problem. That's why we're a joke.

It's moreso the fault of everyone who ignored the fact that we had a specific thread to discuss what emo is in and elected to make their own posts about it, even if they were joking, than it is us that actually care about these sorts of things. If we had mods to clean this forum up, it'd be fine, but we don't.

Sorry but I really laughed at that statement. It's funny when you picture Reagan saying it.

pepster50
06/06/06, 07:55 PM
it really makes me mad when people posts things saying that this band isnt emo and this other band is... i mean... there is no indie forum or a screamo forum or a pop punk forum... so emo is coming the closest to it.

Emo is my favorite type of music... or is it pop punk... or hardcore... or post hardcore? lol... who the hell knows?... its probly not emo because some people dont consider hawthorne heights emo and thats as emo as u get. The point im trying to get out here is personal opinion... every1 here has a personal opinion on wut emo is... so whoever reads this heres is sum advise... when ur searching through the thread list... and you see a band that you dont think fits into this forum... dont click it... everybody that is posting in that thread odviously likes that band... and then when you come in and trash talk it or say it doesnt belong... it creates an argument which in the end totally brings down this entire forum...

and then there is those... "delete this forum" threads... what the hell?... i came to this forum to talk bout the bands i enjoy wiht other people... i find myself barely clciking on this forum nemore because you cant say anything without being ridiculed... maybe once this forum gets a mod this havoc will end... but HURRY UP AP.... this forum is out of control

to the person that said delete this forum... i say no... right now... its like walking into a bar during mardi gra... its hectic... but once a mod gets set in and rules are enforced... i believe that this forum will be an enjoyable place... Patience....

Freud
06/06/06, 08:31 PM
to the person that said delete this forum... i say no... right now... its like walking into a bar during mardi gra... its hectic... but once a mod gets set in and rules are enforced... i believe that this forum will be an enjoyable place... Patience....
no. its like your ***goty ass walking into a straight club. now that would be hectic for you. so many cocks to admire yet you cant have any. damn.

Crocodile Logic
06/06/06, 09:00 PM
rabble rabble rabble

GoWaitInTheCar
06/06/06, 09:26 PM
Brit-Pop board?

I call rights to that baby.

Mmmm... Mmmm... Mmmmmmmmm...

Rock
06/07/06, 03:55 AM
no. its like your ***goty ass walking into a straight club. now that would be hectic for you. so many cocks to admire yet you cant have any. damn.
hahaha

_Andrew
06/07/06, 04:36 AM
I too think this forum is in desperate need of a mod, and preferably a sticky pointing to the wiki defiition of emo, and another sticky concerning the rules of posting in this forum, and conciquences for breaches..

FuryCore
06/07/06, 08:42 PM
You do realize that this is exactly what goes on over on purevolume on their forums? Except it's like 1000 times worse. Fuck all of these so-called 'music' boards, i think general should just be THE music board.

BreakerBreaker
06/07/06, 10:06 PM
You do realize that this is exactly what goes on over on purevolume on their forums? Except it's like 1000 times worse. Fuck all of these so-called 'music' boards, i think general should just be THE music board.

That's not true at all. The purevolume "Emo" forum is a 1000 times better than this one.