Deadwood

[bopst]

http://thewvsr.com/deadwood.htm

[aminorthreat55]

Hahaha my mom was talking about that at dinner the other night.

[bopst]

I think they say cocksucker more than fuck anyway....

A great series on HBO none the less.

[marrost]

What an amazing end to a slow-moving season. One of the best episodes of any television show that I have ever seen. Anyone else lucky enough to catch it?

[EnderDove]

This show bothers me.

It mixes cowboys with gang banging.

I was watching it once and heard them using language that im sure they did say back then.

[Chemical Love]

I love Deadwood but I only get to watch it when I'm at school. I dont have HBO home.

[marrost]

Some of you have to watch this fucking show.

[marrost]

This show bothers me.

It mixes cowboys with gang banging.

I was watching it once and heard them using language that im sure they did say back then.You should watch it again, its mostly about staying alive and in business in a town with little to no law. The writing is brilliant.

[cantnokdahustle]

You should watch it again, its mostly about staying alive and in business in a town with little to no law. The writing is brilliant.
the writing is very good but i still think that it is about 4th at the moment in HBO quality series, behind the first two seasons of carnivale (hopefully we don't have to wait 2 years for season three), the first 3 seasons of Six Feet Under (and hopefully season 5), the first 3 seasons of Enthusiasm and the forever greatness of OZ (RIP).

[marrost]

the writing is very good but i still think that it is about 4th at the moment in HBO quality series, behind the first two seasons of carnivale (hopefully we don't have to wait 2 years for season three), the first 3 seasons of Six Feet Under (and hopefully season 5), the first 3 seasons of Enthusiasm and the forever greatness of OZ (RIP).
Those are all excellent shows (especially OZ) but the best episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm happened to be in the fourth season when Larry got the pot for his dad.

There is just something about the characters in Deadwood that amazes me.

[marrost]

7 Days . . .

[Chemical Love]

I'll be watching.

[CutsLikeDrugS]

For those who don't read the hbo.com forums, a Deadwood cast member made a very enlightening post a few weeks ago, on some of the reasons for the Deadwood stallout. Some of the things he said ring eerily true to what people think occurred with Carnivale's demise. Anway, here is a copy and paste of W. Earl Brown's post (Dan Dority, on Deadwood):

It has nothing to do with pregnancies. It has nothing to do with conservative watchdogs.

It has everything to do with money.

Chris Albrecht, HBO CEO, is in danger of losing his job. The network is bleeding red ink. His production side lost a ton of money. They sunk 120-million into ROME. They are committed contractually to another season, plus they have 120 invested already.

On DEADWOOD, they did not get foreign rights. Paramount had a deal with Milch to work for them. In exchange for them releasing him to HBO, they got foreign rights to our show. So for three years, HBO has not seen that money from around the world.

While we are the second biggest show on HBO, we are the 2nd most expensive to make (half of what ROME costs, mind you). Chris has shareholders to answer to and is panicked to cut the bottom line. Never mind the fact, that in 2004 he posted a 1-Billion dollar profit (the most for ANY network. Ever.) You might've won the Super Bowl last year, but if you go 0-16 this season, you're looking for another coaching job.

We had been given word of season four. They trumpeted the announcment of the season to the press in March. Chris, obviously having not been raised the way I was where a man's word is his bond, reneged on us. He offered Milch the opportunity to wrap up the series with either a 2 hour movie or an order of six episodes. David refused, feeling that to conclude with anything short of a full season (which we'd already been given word of) would demean all the work we'd done prior. I agree.

The *beep* part of this is David's Paramount deal is over this year. Starting with season four, HBO would own the show outright. All world monies would be theirs. BUT... that doesn't help Chris with the shareholders today. He is cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Write HBO. Call HBO. Email HBO. It amounts to the bottom line. If the are overun by subscibers and the threatened cancellations are enough of an issue to seriously cut into their cash flow, they might change track.

Bottom line matters. CARNIVALE only had a weekly viewership of 2-3 million. SOPRANOS, on the opposite end, has 10-12. DEADWOOD drew 5-6. ROME has a comparable draw, although their viewership dwindled as the show went on. However (this is solely my opinion having constantly encountered fans on the street, in airports, etc. who are only now getting into the show via dvd of season 1) DEADWOOD is (was) still ascending.

We've been cut off at the knees.

Read this. Memorize this. I'm afraid some Monitor from Big Brother will soon delete it and I will never work for HBO again... at least while Albrecht is at the helm.

[Trainsaw]

yeah i posted this in my update on 5/26 i believe, def sucks

[CutsLikeDrugS]

After watching part of season two of Carnivale... I could deal with Deadwood being cancelled if it meant more Carnivale episodes.

[FrancesdaMute]

The only shows I really watch on HBO is entourage or curb your enthusiasm. sopranos...used to. Doesn't really matter, I just get the dvds of the shows now through netflix...hence the cancellation of my subscription with HBO starting next month. meh.

[fluke182]

They didn't just not option them, it's cancelled after the season. I agree on Carnivale - Carnivale >> Deadwood. I want more Carnivale.

[marrost]

HBO fucks up again. This asshole in charge put all the money into Rome and The Sopranos, hopefully it comes back to screw him. I don't think Carnivale will come back, not for a full season anyway.

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=141588
At the very least we'll have one more season.

After watching part of season two of Carnivale... I could deal with Deadwood being cancelled if it meant more Carnivale episodes.Season two of both shows are too good. I couldn't choose one.

[CutsLikeDrugS]

HBO fucks up again. This asshole in charge put all the money into Rome and The Sopranos, hopefully it comes back to screw him. I don't think Carnivale will come back, not for a full season anyway.

http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=141588
At the very least we'll have one more season.

Season two of both shows are too good. I couldn't choose one.
Holy shit! Management! Holy shit...

[marrost]

Holy shit! Management! Holy shit...Hahahahaha I know. And Scudder pouring the acid all over his face. The tension in the rest of the episodes is unreal. It just keeps building.

[marrost]

I really hope this isn't the last season. Fuck HBO.

[jaimej]

It's all about Entourage.

[marrost]

It's all about Entourage.Haha sorry, but no. Entourage is funny, but not a single thing about that show can touch Deadwood. Acting, writing, directing and so forth is 10 times better in Deadwood, which is probably the best show on television.

[last light]

entourage is soooooo overrated in my opinion. i didnt get a chance to finish the season 2 dvds so i think im going to have to wait for dvd or just tivo the 1st couple of episodes.

[marrost]

entourage is soooooo overrated in my opinion. i didnt get a chance to finish the season 2 dvds so i think im going to have to wait for dvd or just tivo the 1st couple of episodes.If you're talking about Deadwood, the season 2 finale may be the best hour of television I've ever seen. The season was a little slow moving, especially the few episodes that Al was out of commission, but the ending makes up for it tenfold.

[last light]

If you're talking about Deadwood, the season 2 finale may be the best hour of television I've ever seen.

ya i was talking about deadwood, man now i want to finish them up even more...it may be a weekend full of ignoring the gf in order to watch deadwood haha.

[marrost]

Yea it's fucking crazy.

[jaimej]

Haha sorry, but no. Entourage is funny, but not a single thing about that show can touch Deadwood. Acting, writing, directing and so forth is 10 times better in Deadwood, which is probably the best show on television.
I wasn't comparing them. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of Deadwood. Though I do have HBO on demand. So I should probably get on that, hmmm?

[CutsLikeDrugS]

If you're talking about Deadwood, the season 2 finale may be the best hour of television I've ever seen. The season was a little slow moving, especially the few episodes that Al was out of commission, but the ending makes up for it tenfold.
The last two episodes of season 2 of Six Feet Under is the best 2 hours of TV I've ever seen. I need to finish season 2 of Deadwood. As for season 2 of Carnivale... it's probably the best season of television ever.

[marrost]

I was never that big into Six Feet Under, so I don't know. I like the show but I was never over the top about it. The season 2 finale to Deadwood was just perfect, and the parallels between it and the season 1 finale were also perfect. Season 3 will probably not make much sense without watching it, either. Everything that was built over the season blew the fuck up in one episode.

[marrost]

I clicked info for tonight's episode on my digital cable. All it said was "Tell Your God To Ready For Blood." Can't fucking wait.

[waggy]

season 1 of deadwood was one of the best seasons of television i've ever seen. i thought season 2 was a huge letdown though (apart from the fantastic opening episode). and i'm not one of those guys that needs to see a shootout every episode. i just felt like they effectively neutered the two most interesting characters (swearigen and bullock of course). i hope season 3 sees a return to the first season's greatness.

[marrost]

I love Al. I love this show. He told one of the richest men in the country to go fuck himself.

[marrost]

On now go watch.

[gilatron5000]

I just recently got HBO, so i had never got a chance to watch the show. So I'm watching the DVD's and recording season 3, while I'm watching season 1 and 2(I'm actually watching an episode of season 1 as I type this)

It's a damn good show.

As for the best show on TV, I think it is as follows:

Broadcast: LOST
Basic Cable: Battlestar Galactica
Pay Cable: Deadwood.

I do believe I like LOST the most, though.

[marrost]

It is pretty much the only show on right now that I make sure I see every single episode of. It keeps getting better and better.

[waggy]

holy shit, who else was as blown away by tonight's episode (and in particular, the fight) as i was? my jaw was on the floor when that eye came out. and i'm so fucking glad that bullock has some balls again. i just hope that doesn't get him killed since he's my favorite character.

[vandalsandquinn]

i dont have HBO

[xearlynovemberx]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e3SZvEPJFPE

bump

[marrost]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e3SZvEPJFPE

bumpSeriously. This shit is incredible. Do yourselves a favor, watch this video and get into this show.

[IAmNietzche]

I haven't watched the 'Wood in a while. Good season?

[marrost]

I haven't watched the 'Wood in a while. Good season?Hasn't been a bad one yet. Even the slow ones where Al takes the backseat have been good. Bullock is out of his mind hahaha. Last night's episode was fucking awesome. Some big shit is about to go down in the camp.

[marrost]

SEASON FINALE TONIGHT. 9 o'clock EST. Fuck whatever else is on. I promise you won't be let down. This season, and series for that matter, hasn't missed a note.

[brutusUbastard]

SEASON FINALE TONIGHT. 9 o'clock EST. Fuck whatever else is on. I promise you won't be let down. This season, and series for that matter, hasn't missed a note.

It truly hasn't. I can't wait for this be episode to be ready for download. I'm really saddened that there is only four more hours of deadwood left though.

[marrost]

It truly hasn't. I can't wait for this be episode to be ready for download. I'm really saddened that there is only four more hours of deadwood left though.Tell me about it. HBO is run by a bunch of douchebags.

[brutusUbastard]

Tell me about it. HBO is run by a bunch of douchebags.

Its a fact. Deadwood is truly the most memorable/amazing show I have seen on TV in my lifetime.

[marrost]

Its a fact. Deadwood is truly the most memorable/amazing show I have seen on TV in my lifetime.You're one of the few who are smart enough to realize that fact.

[brutusUbastard]

You're one of the few who are smart enough to realize that fact.

What really seeled the deal for me on this show was reading the purpose behind the use of Fuck, etc. so often. For once it served a brillant, artisitc purpose that actually furthered the emotional tension and meaning behind almost every interaction, compared to where its just casually thrown around in most all movies.

Also, no other show really competes with Deadwood as a serious drama. 24, cool, but it rely's to heavily on the viewer to supsend there since of believe. Lost requires this even more so. With Deadwood, everything is incredibly realistic, bringing a true since of weight anytime a main character dies.

Have you noticed that in recent episodes the lack of a background score created an erie calm before the coming storm? Note that I still haven't seen the finale.

[marrost]

What really seeled the deal for me on this show was reading the purpose behind the use of Fuck, etc. so often. For once it served a brillant, artisitc purpose that actually furthered the emotional tension and meaning behind almost every interaction, compared to where its just casually thrown around in most all movies.

Also, no other show really competes with Deadwood as a serious drama. 24, cool, but it rely's to heavily on the viewer to supsend there since of believe. Lost requires this even more so. With Deadwood, everything is incredibly realistic, bringing a true since of weight anytime a main character dies.

Have you noticed that in recent episodes the lack of a background score created an erie calm before the coming storm? Note that I still haven't seen the finale.:appl:

The finale may let you down. My fucking digital cable froze for an agonizing two minutes for what could have very well been the most pivotal moment of the season (Imagine your tv going black right when Al bends over to open a casket, you'll know what I mean). I think they may have changed the ending to this episode in order to meet the needs of the two "movies" coming next year.

[brutusUbastard]

:appl:

The finale may let you down. My fucking digital cable froze for an agonizing two minutes for what could have very well been the most pivotal moment of the season (Imagine your tv going black right when Al bends over to open a casket, you'll know what I mean). I think they may have changed the ending to this episode in order to meet the needs of the two "movies" coming next year.

I doubt dedawood will let me down, because honestly I have no idea what to expect. That blows that your cable went out. It maybe why a torrent hasnt been uploaded yet.

As for the two movies, I am glad there will be more closure to the series.

[waggy]

good episode, but i'm glad this wasn't the last word for the series. i need a little more closure.

the wire starts in a few short weeks, so i won't be without smart television for too long. (and i should hope that everyone in this thread watches that show too)

[marrost]

good episode, but i'm glad this wasn't the last word for the series. i need a little more closure.

the wire starts in a few short weeks, so i won't be without smart television for too long. (and i should hope that everyone in this thread watches that show too)I need to catch up on The Wire, I've only seen a few.

[last light]

i know there are a few fans on here...i dont know how much of this is new info, but whatever..

January 24, 2007 - Deadwood fans were crushed last summer to learn the HBO series was ending after only three seasons, and without a real series finale - When the third season completed production, the producers and actors assumed they'd be returning for another year, so the story was left open ended. HBO eventually announced they'd reached a deal with Deadwood creator David Milch to do two TV movies, to allow Milch the opportunity to properly finish the story. Not a lot has been heard since on the films, as Milch has begun production on his new HBO series, John From Cincinnati.

However, at the recent TCA (Television Critics Association) Press Tour, Milch was on hand to promote John, and the topic of Deadwood came up. Said Milch, "I spent a significant portion of yesterday in collaboration with Evan Wright, who's a wonderful writer, with whom I'm doing the first of the two Deadwood two-hour films. And we're very optimistic about the outcome of that work, and it's our intention that just the moment that we complete production on John From Cincinnati to begin work on that."

After the Q&A for John From Cincinnati, I was among a group of press who asked Milch a bit more about the Deadwood films. Milch seemed somewhat hesitant to say the films would be happening for sure, musing that, "There are imponderables in every undertaking. But I can tell you that I'm gonna have a pretty good script set in 1879, if they don't do it!"

However, Milch did confirm, "We have contracts, we have the set, we're doing the script." Asked what he felt could go wrong to stop the project, Milch explained there were no specifics he was concerned about, but that he felt anything could happen in general, saying, "How about a bomb? I've had 7 angioplasties. There's plenty that can go wrong."

Asked if the cast have been contracted to return, Milch answered, "That's been done. I don't know if every one of them is available, because to some extent it's contingent on the shooting. But I know that Ian [McShane] has deferred; he's engaged to do a Broadway play. He's deferred it for two months, to be available [for Deadwood] in the late summer, early fall. We have every intention of going forward."

I asked Milch if Gerald McCraney's character George Hearst might return in the films, considering he left town in the third season finale. "I wouldn't be surprised to see him," Milch coyly answered.

[YouMadeTheScene]

Timothy Olyphant was on Opie and Anthony today and said that it didn't continue because it cost to much to produce the series.

[IAmNietzche]

Timothy Olyphant was on Opie and Anthony today and said that it didn't continue because it cost to much to produce the series.
Only because that awful fucking show Rome is a money pit of epic proportions.

[brutusUbastard]

Deadwood was awesome. Fuck HBO

[marrost]

Only because that awful fucking show Rome is a money pit of epic proportions.That and they had to keep the now unwatchable Sopranos going.

Rome had far worse ratings than Deadwood but they invested so much into it that they couldn't pull the plug after just one season. Kinda like going in on a shitty poker hand.

I wish they didn't spend so much time on that theatre group last season. If they knew the end was coming I doubt any of that storyline would have been in there.

[Take Heart]

Truly a shame this show had to go. Sadly, I can see The Wire going out with a whimper after next season, too. The best shows on HBO don't get enough hype, and utter shit like Sopranos (the last 2 seasons were unwatchable) and Sex And the City do.

[AshesAshes]

I just started watching this show I picked up season 1 on dvd.I love it so far Al is by far the best part of the show

[marrost]

I just started watching this show I picked up season 1 on dvd.I love it so far Al is by far the best part of the showYea his character is just so amazingly complex and well acted compared to most everything else out there.

W2Cj5usuA-Q

I mean come on now... I should rewatch the series again soon.

Well, maybe just the first two seasons. I'm not even holding my breath for the movies anymore.

[AshesAshes]

Jesus Wild Bill just got it I knew he was gonna go out eventually but the way it happened caught me off guard that was nuts

[AshesAshes]

Yea his character is just so amazingly complex and well acted compared to most everything else out there.

W2Cj5usuA-Q

I mean come on now... I should rewatch the series again soon.

Well, maybe just the first two seasons. I'm not even holding my breath for the movies anymore.

Yea that's what I love about him thinking about how he thinks hurts my head.Did he bring home any emmys for his performance cause it's outstanding..


I never heard anything about the movies but it wouldnt suprise me if they didnt get made Hbo sucks for ending the show after 3 seasons

[marrost]

No man this show barely won shit and it's a fucking shame. He won a Golden Globe, and he and the show were nominated for best actor and best drama in 05, but that's about it other than a bunch of sound mixing and costume wins. The third season made the show eligible for this year's Emmys, but again, just a few minor nominations.

[Max Goldberg]

HBO's libertarian old west?

[marrost]

fuck yes. would have been their second best show ever had it been allowed to run its true course. i hope everyone drops them since they are good for nothing nowadays.

[Adeniz19]

yes

[AshesAshes]

Great show fuck HBO the acting was top notch in this

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll rent it sometime.

[marrost]

i can't even watch season 3. such a huge build up with nothing to follow. fuck hbo so hard.

i read that langrishe was set to turn on al in the fourth season, which would have been really interesting, then they could have had the camp burn down in the series finale, as it did in 1879.

i see this show as art much more than as television. so overlooked.

[Adeniz19]

i read that langrishe was set to turn on al in the fourth season, which would have been really interesting, then they could have had the camp burn down in the series finale, as it did in 1879.
that would of been a cool way to end it, but they could of gotten more than just 4 seasons if thats the way they would of decided to end it. i mean seasons 1-3 is only a year span ('76-'77), so they could of probably got another good 3-4 seasons out of this show if they would of let it run it's course.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

I used to watch Ian McShane in this late 80s-early 90s British show called Lovejoy. I just noticed on IMDb that he also did a voice in Coraline.

[Ailite]

Awesome show,

[marrost]

I used to watch Ian McShane in this late 80s-early 90s British show called Lovejoy. I just noticed on IMDb that he also did a voice in Coraline.Yea he was the circus guy. Pretty funny. He fucking destroys on Deadwood, though. Season 2 finale is my favorite hour of tv ever.

I made a few threads on it back when it was airing, but there was never really anyone around to talk about it with. Everyone was watching 24/Lost.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

Purposefully never watched either of those shows and I never will. Stupid hype bullshit.

[Talib Scottie]

HBO has put together so many good fucking shows and mini-series. Fuck movies, just original programming.

Unfortunately I did not appreciate this show while it ran, had to Netflix the DVDs to check it out.

[marrost]

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[Justin_stacy]

Speak of the devil. I'm in the middle of season 2 right now, and have three on hold waiting for me.

I'm not sure if I'd say it lives up to the hype, the second season so far hasn't, but still a good drama. I miss Hickok, he was probably my favorite character from season 1, and none of the new additions in season 2 have lived up to him or the actor playing him.

I still get a kick out of all the swearing since its a completely false representation of the time....cocksucker

[popdisaster00]

My dad absolutely loved this show. I never watched it. I should.

[marrost]

Speak of the devil. I'm in the middle of season 2 right now, and have three on hold waiting for me.

I'm not sure if I'd say it lives up to the hype, the second season so far hasn't, but still a good drama. I miss Hickok, he was probably my favorite character from season 1, and none of the new additions in season 2 have lived up to him or the actor playing him.

I still get a kick out of all the swearing since its a completely false representation of the time....cocksuckerSeason 2 is very slow paced, and isn't like most shows where the payoff begins in the last quarter of the season. Everything is saved for the finale, where it all wraps up perfectly and draws some nice parallels with the first season's finale.

[Rodeo]

Miss this show more than life itself.

[Max Goldberg]

i can't even watch season 3. such a huge build up with nothing to follow. fuck hbo so hard.

i read that langrishe was set to turn on al in the fourth season, which would have been really interesting, then they could have had the camp burn down in the series finale, as it did in 1879.

i see this show as art much more than as television. so overlooked.

Hell yeah. That's how they ended Showtime's Weeds in season two.

[Chemical Love]

I need to pick this up on DVD.

[marrost]

yea i still have to get season 3. it has some great scenes, but for my sanity i like to pretend that season 2 was the true finale haha.

[Someone'sCoat]

Ridiculous bump but I just bought the box set of this and it is beautiful. I'm on the second season now. Such am amazing show.

[Losthope182]

Just started watching this and just finished the fourth episode of season 1 which means Wild Bill was just shot and I already fucking love it! I'm assuming he survives, but I can't wait for the next episode....so pissed that it wasn't next in my Netflix queue and was coming tomorrow.

I'm already disappointed that the show doesn't have an official ending.

[popdisaster00]

I've still been meaning to watch this show

[marrost]

My post count in this thread compared to everyone elses... lol.

Still hurts 5 years later.

[Someone'sCoat]

Ian McShane is in that new Starz series Pillars of the Earth. So far it isn't half bad

That being said, I miss this show so damn much

[Galedeep]

I just watched this entire series. One of the most well-made television shows I have ever seen.

[Matt Chylak]

just rewatched one and two. i'm dreading re-watching three because of the lack of conclusion

[Losthope182]

Just finished the series....loved it. Obviously disappointed at the lack of conclusion, but I guess it could've been worse. At least no one was shot in the final scene and their life was left hanging in the balance or anything like that.

[marrost]

The last episode aired five years ago today. Unreal.

[deadkidsean]

Holy shit. 5 years.

[deadkidsean]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/mcnail/OMG4/deadwood-lores-color.jpg

[Gaugzilla]

After putting this off to watch The Wire, I'm going to watch this series very soon. The third season - is it worth the view despite having no conclusion?

[marrost]

There are some great scenes, but the non-resolution is probably the most frustrating thing I've ever dealt with in a tv show.

[Losthope182]

After putting this off to watch The Wire, I'm going to watch this series very soon. The third season - is it worth the view despite having no conclusion?

Not sure how others watched it (as it aired or after it ended), but I went into it knowing that there wouldn't be a real conclusion and even though I was disappointed with the lack of resolution I didn't think it was as bad as it could've been. I think you should be fine if you don't go in expecting something that will never come.

[Star Slight]

Bump. Started this today

[Matt Chylak]

didn't know there wasn't a conclusion, and it literally broke my heart. still search for "deadwood season 4 news" from time to time

[itsmesean0630]

I have season 1 on DVD and I enjoyed what I've seen. Tempted to get Season 2 because they are on sale right now at BB. Then I could just steam through them.

[Someone'sCoat]

My Deadwood boxset is one of my most treasured personal possessions.

Miss this show so much

[SlappedActor]

On episode 10 of season 1, and I am absolutely hooked. Amazing show, sorry I slept on it for so long.

[RaindanceFilm]

Dead Good!

[Someone'sCoat]

I just started watching this AGAIN. Still not old

[SlappedActor]

I just started watching this AGAIN. Still not old

And anyone who disagrees...sucks cock by choice.