To Write Love On Her Arms

[LoveMiracle93]

Hello!
It would be very much appreciated if you all would help support To Write Love On Her Arms by nominating them for Mashable's Open Web Awards in the category of "Best Non-Profit Use of Social Media."

To do so please click the link below.


http://mashable.com/owa/votes


When you visit the website it will ask you to login to your Facebook or Twitter. This is to publish your nomination. After you have logged in it will allow you to type in a nomination and select a category. Type in To Write Love On Her Arms for the Nomination and select Best Non-Profit Use of Social Media as the category, please.

For more information on To Write Love On Her Arms visit: www.twloha.com (http://www.twloha.com)

Thank you so much for your support.
-Tiffany.<3

[Jennurna Gray]

Of course, sweetie. :)

[SomedayTheFire]

No

[Waldorf]

spamtacular

[wendjiqn]

No thanks.

[Mibabalou]

fuck you bitch

go cut in a corner

i dont give a fuck

[Waldorf]

fuck you bitch

go cut in a corner

i dont give a fuck

cool guy

[x1onexwo1fx]

posted in PL? bad move.

[Smeee]

Tiffany? Srsly? Do you do breakfast?

[Waldorf]

holy shit guys, look what she wrote on her profile

They named her Tiffany Mariah. She is unique and in love with love. Life, however, has been her downfall. Life has escaped her many times before. But she always finds a way back to the sun. Most of the time "when it rains," she calls upon the wonderful friends she has made over her sixteen years. To Write Love On Her Arms has been her inspiration. A safe haven and it has been her privilege to stand under their shield. She does not love the world because it is broken, but she tries to do all the healing she can to help stop the tragic losses. She heard about a statement from Don Miller that said: "We're called to hold our hands against the wounds of a broken world, to stop the bleeding." She agrees so greatly. She could not live without music, for she needs her song. What someone once said in a story about a broken girl, the statement in Renee’s story: "I would rather write her a song, because songs don't wait to resolve, and because songs mean so much to her. Stories wait for endings, but songs are brave things bold enough to sing when all they know is darkness." Her hearts adheres to that statement because she believes it is true. This girl is a firm believer in the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. Recently, she has been in pain. She is finding her way back to understanding that: "You need to know that rescue is possible, that freedom is possible, that God is still in the business of redemption." She has reset her priorities to her happiness. She has so many lost aspirations, but she will be fulfilled. She will dance. Modern, latin ballroom, ballet, and jazz. She will skateboard, play the guitar, do charity work. She will find love, because she does deserve it. God will forgive her for her sins. She will forgive herself. She will love herself. She will also love you, and you, her. The world will become beautiful again. She will open her arms and her heart, but keep it heavily guarded. You see, her world has been shattered time and time again. But with a commun

[underthetalking]

This "movement" doesn't do anything for anyone. They just sell trendy t-shirts.

[BryterJonah]

http://www.healthqanda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/suicide-prone-teenager.jpg

Not soon enough.

[Waldorf]

http://www.healthqanda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/suicide-prone-teenager.jpg

Not soon enough.
http://blogs.alfresco.com/wp/ianh/files/2008/12/1951-xmas-humbug-scrooge.jpg

If they would rather die, then they had better go ahead and do it, and so decrease the surplus population!

[BryterJonah]

If they would rather die, then they had better go ahead and do it, and so decrease the surplus population!
The best line Dickens ever wrote.

[Waldorf]

The best line Dickens ever wrote.

Zemekis and Disney massacred that story. New movie with Jim Carrey just blows.

[I am Mick]

TWLOHA isn't non-profit...in fact it's like 97% profit.

[Waldorf]

TWLOHA isn't non-profit...in fact it's like 97% profit.

http://www.o--rly.com/owl_orly.png

[I am Mick]

Yeah...theres really no reason to even post that. The chick said nominate them for best non-profit, I was correcting her.

[Raarzipan]

I've always wondered what they did with the money they make any one have info on this "nonprofit" organization?

[SomedayTheFire]

I've always wondered what they did with the money they make any one have info on this "nonprofit" organization?
They keep it and buy shiny things.

[Raarzipan]

They keep it and buy shiny things.
the website says they have donated 500k since 2006, seems like very little considering how many of those shirts I see everywhere.

[Waldorf]

the website says they have donated 500k since 2006, seems like very little considering how many of those shirts I see everywhere.

You can't trust everything you read on the Internet.

[SincerelyMe]

TWLOHA isn't non-profit...in fact it's like 97% profit.

Source? Not trying to be an asshole. I'm curious.

[Waldorf]

Source? Not trying to be an asshole. I'm curious.

Common sense!

[Reaver]

i heard there's a pornstar called tiffany. might be a coincidence, but i don't think so.

[wtfGerry]

holy shit guys, look what she wrote on her profile

They named her Tiffany Mariah. She is unique and in love with love. Life, however, has been her downfall. Life has escaped her many times before. But she always finds a way back to the sun. Most of the time "when it rains," she calls upon the wonderful friends she has made over her sixteen years. To Write Love On Her Arms has been her inspiration. A safe haven and it has been her privilege to stand under their shield. She does not love the world because it is broken, but she tries to do all the healing she can to help stop the tragic losses. She heard about a statement from Don Miller that said: "We're called to hold our hands against the wounds of a broken world, to stop the bleeding." She agrees so greatly. She could not live without music, for she needs her song. What someone once said in a story about a broken girl, the statement in Renee’s story: "I would rather write her a song, because songs don't wait to resolve, and because songs mean so much to her. Stories wait for endings, but songs are brave things bold enough to sing when all they know is darkness." Her hearts adheres to that statement because she believes it is true. This girl is a firm believer in the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. Recently, she has been in pain. She is finding her way back to understanding that: "You need to know that rescue is possible, that freedom is possible, that God is still in the business of redemption." She has reset her priorities to her happiness. She has so many lost aspirations, but she will be fulfilled. She will dance. Modern, latin ballroom, ballet, and jazz. She will skateboard, play the guitar, do charity work. She will find love, because she does deserve it. God will forgive her for her sins. She will forgive herself. She will love herself. She will also love you, and you, her. The world will become beautiful again. She will open her arms and her heart, but keep it heavily guarded. You see, her world has been shattered time and time again. But with a commun

Wow, just wow.

[x1onexwo1fx]

this organization was great.

...until it became a trend for stupid kids to latch on to because they can't find any real meaning in their lives.

TWLOHA isn't non-profit...in fact it's like 97% profit.

the 16 year old in me does not want to believe you. then again, i doubt non-profit organizations in general.

Tiffany? Srsly? Do you do breakfast?

haha, i just got that. took me a while.

[saveferris]

http://www.healthqanda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/suicide-prone-teenager.jpg

Not soon enough.
People like you piss me off.

[saveferris]

TWLOHA isn't non-profit...in fact it's like 97% profit.
I value your opinion dearly. Even though you have no actual facts to back that up and TWLOHA has a form on their website that proves they are in fact non profit.

[saveferris]

i heard there's a pornstar called tiffany. might be a coincidence, but i don't think so.
Yes because Tiffany is such a rare name :rolleyes:

[saveferris]

fuck you bitch

go cut in a corner

i dont give a fuck
Your life must be one dark abyss

[I am Mick]

I value your opinion dearly. Even though you have no actual facts to back that up and TWLOHA has a form on their website that proves they are in fact non profit.


Q: Where does the money go?
A: TWLOHA gives a portion of proceeds directly to the treatment and recovery programs of the organizations listed below. Since 2006, TWLOHA has given nearly $500k to treatment and recovery.

[saveferris]

The government doesn't just hand these out to anyone.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/97/twloha501c3approvallett.jpg

[saveferris]

Q: Where does the money go?
A: TWLOHA gives a portion of proceeds directly to the treatment and recovery programs of the organizations listed below. Since 2006, TWLOHA has given nearly $500k to treatment and recovery.
Right and the other portion is what they use to make t shirts. Congratulations for completely misinterpreting an easy to understand statement. You're funny, I like how you randomly came up with 97%. Show me some math.

[saveferris]

Tiffany? Srsly? Do you do breakfast?
That joke was beyond lame.

[saveferris]

This "movement" doesn't do anything for anyone. They just sell trendy t-shirts.
And gives money to charities, goes on tour and does speeches, preaches awareness about suicide, has a street team so other people can get invovled, answers emails and phone calls to help peope. Yeah but other than that they do nothing.


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/97/twloha501c3approvallett.jpg

[deathinkosovo]

If it wasn't for suicide, Hitler would still be rolling around killing Jews.

I don't like Hitler. That's why I support suicide.

[BryterJonah]

People like you piss me off.
People like me get me off.

[BryterJonah]

If it wasn't for suicide, Hitler would still be rolling around killing Jews.

I don't like Hitler. That's why I support suicide.
Ace.

[ted is lying]

And gives money to charities, goes on tour and does speeches, preaches awareness about suicide, has a street team so other people can get invovled, answers emails and phone calls to help peope. Yeah but other than that they do nothing.


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/97/twloha501c3approvallett.jpg
You used the same picture twice in one page.

[saveferris]

People like me get me off.
It must be hell inside your head.

[saveferris]

You used the same picture twice in one page.
And?

[ted is lying]

And?
you only need to post once.

[ted is lying]

you only need to post once.
once is more then enough.

[ted is lying]

once is more then enough.
you sir are correct.

[saveferris]

you only need to post once.
I don't care.

[saveferris]

once is more then enough.
Why? It's proof to shut up you ingorant fools that TWLOHA is a non profit orginization. The pictures were for two different people to look at. Let's not be weird and scrutinize everything I do just because you don't like the company.

[saveferris]

you sir are correct.
Why do you guys hate this company?

[maxvsmaradona]

I value your opinion dearly. Even though you have no actual facts to back that up and TWLOHA has a form on their website that proves they are in fact non profit.

If TWLOHA was non-profit, their shirts would be free. It even said how "a portion of the proceeds" goes to charity. So what happens with the rest? Profit.

You can easily break it down like this:

1. Make a trendy shirt
2. Latch onto depressed teenagers
3. ????
4. Profit!

[x1onexwo1fx]

okay, you people are stupid. selling trendy t-shirts isn't ALL they do.

And gives money to charities, goes on tour and does speeches, preaches awareness about suicide, has a street team so other people can get invovled, answers emails and phone calls to help peope. Yeah but other than that they do nothing.


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/97/twloha501c3approvallett.jpg

qft

[softhands]

I remember then this use to be cool.

[saveferris]

If TWLOHA was non-profit, their shirts would be free. It even said how "a portion of the proceeds" goes to charity. So what happens with the rest? Profit.

You can easily break it down like this:

1. Make a trendy shirt
2. Latch onto depressed teenagers
3. ????
4. Profit!
I love how number 3 is just a series of question marks because you couldn't think of a smart ass comment to make. You couldn't be more ignorant if you tried. They use the rest of the money to make t-shirts. Jamie doesn't individually make money off this company. And of course the T- shirts are gonna be trendy. They want kids to wear them and spread the message. Nobody's gonna wear an ugly t shirt. I know a ton of people who support this company who aren't depressed teenagers. Nobody's latching onto anyone. They are just spreading awareness. They can't help what kind of kids wear their shirts. And isn't the trend right now the neon look. TWLOHA makes plainer types of t shirts with simple designs. They are nothing like glamour kills, rockett, pyknic, or any of those other companies.

[saveferris]

If it wasn't for suicide, Hitler would still be rolling around killing Jews.

I don't like Hitler. That's why I support suicide.
Yes thank you for supporting the thing that killed friends and family of mine. BTW Hitler would be 120 if he was still alive today so I think he'd be on a hospital bed waiting for death insted of killing jews. You're logic is astonoshingly terrible.

[maxvsmaradona]

I love how number 3 is just a series of question marks because you couldn't think of a smart ass comment to make. You couldn't be more ignorant if you tried. They use the rest of the money to make t-shirts. Jamie doesn't individually make money off this company. And of course the T- shirts are gonna be trendy. They want kids to wear them and spread the message. Nobody's gonna wear an ugly t shirt. I know a ton of people who support this company who aren't depressed teenagers. Nobody's latching onto anyone. They are just spreading awareness. They can't help what kind of kids wear their shirts. And isn't the trend right now the neon look. TWLOHA makes plainer types of t shirts with simple designs. They are nothing like glamour kills, rockett, pyknic, or any of those other companies.

Ahah, you don't get it. "3. ????" is something that is over 9000 miles above your comprehension. And I'm not being ignorant, you just have your panties in a bunch, or dare I say, your tee shirt is wrinkled. They should give almost all the proceeds to charity, and not worry about sceenagers and their latest fashion trend. And what is TWLOHA's message? No matter what, TWLOHA or not, kids are going to cut themselves. A shitty clothing company won't do anything to stop them from self mutilating. If anything, it gives these scene kids a chance to draw on themselves with markers for attention, which is all people who cut themselves want anyways.

If anything, we don't need a clothing company to make us aware of kids self mutilating. That's what Hawthorne Heights records are for. So fuck you.

[saveferris]

Ahah, you don't get it. "3. ????" is something that is over 9000 miles above your comprehension. And I'm not being ignorant, you just have your panties in a bunch, or dare I say, your tee shirt is wrinkled. They should give almost all the proceeds to charity, and not worry about sceenagers and their latest fashion trend. And what is TWLOHA's message? No matter what, TWLOHA or not, kids are going to cut themselves. A shitty clothing company won't do anything to stop them from self mutilating. If anything, it gives these scene kids a chance to draw on themselves with markers for attention, which is all people who cut themselves want anyways.

If anything, we don't need a clothing company to make us aware of kids self mutilating. That's what Hawthorne Heights records are for. So fuck you.
Your maturity really shines through on this statment. Especially when you end it with "So fuck you". You're way too focused on the fact that scene kids wear these shirts. I wear their shirts and i'm not a scene kid. And that shitty clothing company you speak of goes on tours and handles emails everyday. Making t shirts is a way to put your name out there. I can't tell how many times i've had the oppurtunity to explain what TWLOHA does because someone has asked me about my shirt. It's funny that you mention Hawthorne Heights who were big supporters of TWLOHA. And yes kids are gonna cut themselves regardless. But what's wrong with trying to help?

[maxvsmaradona]

Your maturity really shines through on this statment. Especially when you end it with "So fuck you". You're way too focused on the fact that scene kids wear these shirts. I wear their shirts and i'm not a scene kid. And that shitty clothing company you speak of goes on tours and handles emails everyday. Making t shirts is a way to put your name out there. I can't tell how many times i've had the oppurtunity to explain what TWLOHA does because someone has asked me about my shirt. It's funny that you mention Hawthorne Heights who were big supporters of TWLOHA. And yes kids are gonna cut themselves regardless. But what's wrong with trying to help?

I'm not focused on that they wear the shirts, I'm focusing how they spend money on the shirts, and only a small portion of said money goes to charity. ALMOST ALL OF THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO CHARITY. Buying a shitty $17.00 (according to the website, don't forget shipping an handling) teeshirt isn't helping. Out of those $17 you waste on a lame tee, a portion of it would probably come out to $5-7. So, that means there is $10-12 going into making more lame tee shirts. If you really feel strongly about this cause, why don't you donate ALL $17 TO THE CHARITY!? Actually donating 100% of your money towards a cause is helping. Being a part of a stupid trend isn't.

[saveferris]

I'm not focused on that they wear the shirts, I'm focusing how they spend money on the shirts, and only a small portion of said money goes to charity. ALMOST ALL OF THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO CHARITY. Buying a shitty $17.00 (according to the website, don't forget shipping an handling) teeshirt isn't helping. Out of those $17 you waste on a lame tee, a portion of it would probably come out to $5-7. So, that means there is $10-12 going into making more lame tee shirts. If you really feel strongly about this cause, why don't you donate ALL $17 TO THE CHARITY!? Actually donating 100% of your money towards a cause is helping. Being a part of a stupid trend isn't.
I didn't even read what you wrote. I just don't care enough to argue with you. They simply need money for the t shirts to raise awareness. Whether you think it's lame or trendy is irrelevant. I don't think you undestand the business enough to know what you're talking about. You can talk numbers all you want but at the end of the day neither of us know how much money is going to what. The difference is i'm not an ignorant skeptic. Try arguing about this subject without using the word "scene" or "trendy".

[maxvsmaradona]

I didn't even read what you wrote. I just don't care enough to argue with you. They simply need money for the t shirts to raise awareness. Whether you think it's lame or trendy is irrelevant. I don't think you undestand the business enough to know what you're talking about. You can talk numbers all you want but at the end of the day neither of us know how much money is going to what. The difference is i'm not an ignorant skeptic. Try arguing about this subject without using the word "scene" or "trendy".

Holy contradictions, Batman!! I'm not being an ignorant skeptic. I'm being a logical human being and I know that your money could be better off in the hands of the charity, and not the middle man, who takes some of the money for himself.

[saveferris]

Holy contradictions, Batman!! I'm not being an ignorant skeptic. I'm being a logical human being and I know that your money could be better off in the hands of the charity, and not the middle man, who takes some of the money for himself.
I changed my mind. I'm allowed to do that. I feel secure in knowing my money is going somewhere good. Especially when they have a tax form to prove they give to charities. You don't know if he's keeping the money for himself. You can't back that up.

[maxvsmaradona]

I changed my mind. I'm allowed to do that. I feel secure in knowing my money is going somewhere good. Especially when they have a tax form to prove they give to charities. You don't know if he's keeping the money for himself. You can't back that up.

And you don't know if he isn't keeping the money for himself. You can't back it up.

[saveferris]

And you don't know if he isn't keeping the money for himself. You can't back it up.
Right. But I choose to have faith in the company. There's nothing wrong with that. If i'm wrong then i'm wrong. I don't care either way. I like supporting a company that preaches awareness and does what it does. I believe they are having a positive impact on the world whether you think so or not. They have done some good. There is a form on their site though that does prove their a non profit company. Just saying. Go on their website click on vision and then scroll down to where it says beginning.

[saveferris]

There are always gonna be people who try way to hard to show that their not naive and then come out and claim it's logical thinking. Max for some reason refuses to believe that in this world there actually might be a company out there that actually wants to help and doesn't care about money. Is that so crazy that a company like that could exist? Stranger things have happened. If you don't believe in the company or it's ethics then that's fine. But don't make claims that you don't know are true.

[overdrive91]

too long to read. Not to mention the overlarge text slightly irked me.

[maxvsmaradona]

Right. But I choose to have faith in the company. There's nothing wrong with that. If i'm wrong then i'm wrong. I don't care either way. I like supporting a company that preaches awareness and does what it does. I believe they are having a positive impact on the world whether you think so or not. They have done some good. There is a form on their site though that does prove their a non profit company. Just saying. Go on their website click on vision and then scroll down to where it says beginning.

so by your seemingly flawless logic, this is ok?

http://dekerivers.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/braless.jpg

ERR! WRONG!

[saveferris]

so by your seemingly flawless logic, this is ok?

http://dekerivers.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/braless.jpg

ERR! WRONG!
Absolutely not. This is not a positive impact on the world. They're preaching of awareness is based on hate and deragatory statements. Where as TWLOHA is raising awareness against negative things like suicide. Some people like Westboro Baptist Church and believe in what it says. I'm not one of those people who believes in hate as a way to get a message. The does what it does part I wrote is reffering to the fact that they raise awareness about important issues.

[maxvsmaradona]

Absolutely not. This is not a positive impact on the world. They're preaching of awareness is based on hate and deragatory statements. Where as TWLOHA is raising awareness against negative things like suicide.

It's subjective. Again, we'll go with the Hitler argument. When he killed himself, World War II was over. Seems pretty positive to me.

[saveferris]

It's subjective. Again, we'll go with the Hitler argument. When he killed himself, World War II was over. Seems pretty positive to me.
Right but that's no reason to universally support suicide.

[Burn That Shit]

i universally support suicide. it curbs overpopulation.

[maxvsmaradona]

Right but that's no reason to universally support suicide.

It ended the slaughter of the Jews. The Jews, man.

[saveferris]

It ended the slaughter of the Jews. The Jews, man.
Right but you can't just go around supporting suicide because one asshole killed himself.

[x1onexwo1fx]

i universally support suicide. it curbs overpopulation.

no. there are better ways to end overpopulation. we must spread the knowledge of contraceptives. my sociology class says so.

[Burn That Shit]

no. there are better ways to end overpopulation. we must spread the knowledge of contraceptives. my sociology class says so.

my sociology class said that we have to kill all the poor people by making them hate themselves and ending their own lives, thus curbing overpopulation. plus my dad could beat up your dad.

[maxvsmaradona]

Right but you can't just go around supporting suicide because one asshole killed himself.

Yes I can. You go around supporting some asshole who makes teeshirts, but doesn't give all the profits to charity, only some of the profits.

[saveferris]

Yes I can. You go around supporting some asshole who makes teeshirts, but doesn't give all the profits to charity, only some of the profits.
Jamie's not really an asshole. I'd like to see you support suicide when one of your friends kills themselves. In order to run the company he has to keep some of the money. Not for himself but for the shirts and all the other stuff. At least he give money to charity. How many other companies do that with all thier shirts. It's better than none. Go ahead and start a company and give ALL the money to charity and see how long it lasts.

[x1onexwo1fx]

my sociology class said that we have to kill all the poor people by making them hate themselves and ending their own lives, thus curbing overpopulation. plus my dad could beat up your dad.

that's when the joke stopped being funny. way to go.

edit: just out of curiosity, did you take sociology? i'm actually taking one right now.

[Burn That Shit]

that's when the joke stopped being funny. way to go.

edit: just out of curiosity, did you take sociology? i'm actually taking one right now.

I'm in an intro to sociology class right now, as a matter of fact.

[TachyonEvan]

Yeah, TWLOHA is trendy in the scene, but you know what? It's a fucking fantastic organization. I hate people who troll the shit out of it, making jokes about teen suicide and such. It's not funny. You're the ones who need to go kill yourselves. I'm being completely serious here - TWLOHA have saved lives. They had a hand in saving mine. Cut the shit out.

[maxvsmaradona]

Jamie's not really an asshole. I'd like to see you support suicide when one of your friends kills themselves. In order to run the company he has to keep some of the money. Not for himself but for the shirts and all the other stuff. At least he give money to charity. How many other companies do that with all thier shirts. It's better than none. Go ahead and start a company and give ALL the money to charity and see how long it lasts.

Nah, dude, Jamie is an asshole. Nobody I know would ever kill themselves. And I will start a company, and give all the profits to charity. It'll be called "Max Donates" and on any given day, I'll donate whatever money I have to charity. To AIDS research. Or breast cancer research. Two things that will actually make a difference to a bigger population, other than whiny kids who want attention.

[x1onexwo1fx]

I'm in an intro to sociology class right now, as a matter of fact.

intro to sociology. same.

[x1onexwo1fx]

Yeah, TWLOHA is trendy in the scene, but you know what? It's a fucking fantastic organization. I hate people who troll the shit out of it, making jokes about teen suicide and such. It's not funny. You're the ones who need to go kill yourselves. I'm being completely serious here - TWLOHA have saved lives. They had a hand in saving mine. Cut the shit out.

+1

[x1onexwo1fx]

I support abortion - IT curbs overpopulation. Suicide isn't a joke.

-1

edit: okay, yeah, accidents happen, people forget to use condoms, whatever the hell it is. as long as the abortion is conducted under safe conditions in a hospital so that the mother doesn't die of an infection like they do in third world countries, i'm fine with it. but i'm sticking with my view that promoting birth control is a better solution.

[Burn That Shit]

I support abortion - IT curbs overpopulation. Suicide isn't a joke.

okay got it. it's alright to kill genius baby's that will invent spaceships and laser cannons, but letting scene kids kill themselves is too much.

[TachyonEvan]

okay got it. it's alright to kill genius baby's that will invent spaceships and laser cannons, but letting scene kids kill themselves is too much.

fetuses aren't people.

[maxvsmaradona]

Suicide Prevent Hotlines, School Counselors, Peers, Parents, Psychiatrists > teeshirt company

[maxvsmaradona]

fetuses aren't people.

...yet.

[TachyonEvan]

-1

edit: okay, yeah, accidents happen, people forget to use condoms, whatever the hell it is. as long as the abortion is conducted under safe conditions in a hospital, i'm fine with it. but i'm sticking with my view that promoting birth control is a better solution.

Agreed.

[Burn That Shit]

fetuses aren't people.

right right i get it, the genius babys can be sacrificed and we'll never have laser cannons and spaceships, and emo swoop will live on forever, stop drilling me i understand.

[x1onexwo1fx]

Agreed.

edited my post again just a bit, but i'm glad we've reached an agreement.

[maxvsmaradona]

Abortion, to me, is wrong. At least give the little guys a chance to enjoy life. If they can't, well, then, an heroing seems to be the only option.

But hey, it's a woman's body, she'll do what she wants.

[x1onexwo1fx]

right right i get it, the genius babys can be sacrificed and we'll never have laser cannons and spaceships, and emo swoop will live on forever, stop drilling me i understand.

haha ...what?

[saveferris]

Nah, dude, Jamie is an asshole. Nobody I know would ever kill themselves. And I will start a company, and give all the profits to charity. It'll be called "Max Donates" and on any given day, I'll donate whatever money I have to charity. To AIDS research. Or breast cancer research. Two things that will actually make a difference to a bigger population, other than whiny kids who want attention.
Exactly so you don't know what it's like. I never thought this person would kill themselves either. Suicide isn't just for people that want attention. That's an ignorant statement. Kurt Cobain was a famous rockstar who had plenty of attentinon on him. And he killed himself. When I said company I mean one that does what TWLOHA does. Making T shirts is their way of promoting their comany and making people aware.

[TachyonEvan]

right right i get it, the genius babys can be sacrificed and we'll never have laser cannons and spaceships, and emo swoop will live on forever, stop drilling me i understand.

Because people with swoopy hair are the only people who feel alone and confused.

[Burn That Shit]

Listen, I don't know about you guys, but in a couple years i want to be riding a spaceship and shooting laser cannons out the window. so just let these kids commit suicide.

[TachyonEvan]

And fuck laser cannons. I'm completely against weapons technology development.

[TachyonEvan]

Listen, I don't know about you guys, but in a couple years i want to be riding a spaceship and shooting laser cannons out the window. so just let these kids commit suicide.

And I hope you die in a hideous fucking car crash, and your bloody corpse is sliced through the windshield, and nobody gives a flying fuck. Just so you know what it feels like.

[saveferris]

Yeah, TWLOHA is trendy in the scene, but you know what? It's a fucking fantastic organization. I hate people who troll the shit out of it, making jokes about teen suicide and such. It's not funny. You're the ones who need to go kill yourselves. I'm being completely serious here - TWLOHA have saved lives. They had a hand in saving mine. Cut the shit out.
Living proof of why TWLOHA is well recognized and is a good company. They can't help it if their shirts are trendy. That was not their intention in the beginning.

[Burn That Shit]

And I hope you die in a hideous fucking car crash, and your bloody corpse is sliced through the windshield, and nobody gives a flying fuck. Just so you know what it feels like.

as long as my car is a fucking badass rocketship and my bloody corpse gets shot with a fucking sweet ass laser cannon, i'm down.

[saveferris]

-1

edit: okay, yeah, accidents happen, people forget to use condoms, whatever the hell it is. as long as the abortion is conducted under safe conditions in a hospital so that the mother doesn't die of an infection like they do in third world countries, i'm fine with it. but i'm sticking with my view that promoting birth control is a better solution.
I was adopted and i'm sure abortion was an option for my birth parents. I thank god they chose to give me away to a good loving family.

[saveferris]

as long as my car is a fucking badass rocketship and my bloody corpse gets shot with a fucking sweet ass laser cannon, i'm down.
haha. I'm still waiting for my jetpack

[maxvsmaradona]

Exactly so you don't know what it's like. I never thought this person would kill themselves either. Suicide isn't just for people that want attention. That's an ignorant statement. Kurt Cobain was a famous rockstar who had plenty of attentinon on him. And he killed himself. When I said company I mean one that does what TWLOHA does. Making T shirts is their way of promoting their comany and making people aware.

Wait, wait, so I don't know what it's like being clinically depressed? Because, y'know, I do. But I'm not gonna off myself, because I have a lot of things going for me, and so much more to experience. And Kobain didn't kill himself. He accidentally OD'd on Heroin. He made a whoopsie. Then Courtney Love thought it'd be fun to shoot him. And, duh, I know TWLOHA makes people aware, they're just cheap as fuck and not sending enough profit to charity.

[TachyonEvan]

The fact that I'm alive is a testament to TWLOHA working. I became aware that I wasn't alone. I spent my junior year in bipolar breakdown after bipolar breakdown - survived suicide attempts no less. But organizations like TWLOHA being promoted by musicians I respected helped me feel less alone. Like there was a solution.

[maxvsmaradona]

as long as my car is a fucking badass rocketship and my bloody corpse gets shot with a fucking sweet ass laser cannon, i'm down.

:lol:

[Burn That Shit]

The fact that I'm alive is a testament to TWLOHA working. I became aware that I wasn't alone. I spent my junior year in bipolar breakdown after bipolar breakdown - survived suicide attempts no less. But organizations like TWLOHA being promoted by musicians I respected helped me feel less alone. Like there was a solution.

okay that's cool, but let me ask you this, how much of their profits do they donate towards researching how to build a badass spaceship or a laser cannon that has wifi?

I'll answer for you: not enough. not enough at all.

[saveferris]

Wait, wait, so I don't know what it's like being clinically depressed? Because, y'know, I do. But I'm not gonna off myself, because I have a lot of things going for me, and so much more to experience. And Kobain didn't kill himself. He accidentally OD'd on Heroin. He made a whoopsie. Then Courtney Love thought it'd be fun to shoot him. And, duh, I know TWLOHA makes people aware, they're just cheap as fuck and not sending enough profit to charity.
You're a survivor by you own will. Some people don't have that strength and need companies like this to help them. And again you don't really know how much TWLOHA gives to charity. Just because they don't give all of it doesn't mean they're cheap. How much is enough money? Also nobody knows if Kurt's heroin OD was an accident. Nor do we know if Courtney shot him or not.

[TachyonEvan]

okay that's cool, but let me ask you this, how much of their profits do they donate towards researching how to build a badass spaceship or a laser cannon that has wifi?

I'll answer for you: not enough. not enough at all.
Congratulations on being added to my ignore list, fucker.
EDIT: Also reported, you insensitive piece of shit.

[Burn That Shit]

Congratulations on being added to my ignore list, fucker.
EDIT: Also reported, you insensitive piece of shit.

it's funny because you told me to "die in a hideous fucking car crash, and your bloody corpse is sliced through the windshield, and nobody gives a flying fuck.", which is more offensive than anything i've said.

[saveferris]

okay that's cool, but let me ask you this, how much of their profits do they donate towards researching how to build a badass spaceship or a laser cannon that has wifi?

I'll answer for you: not enough. not enough at all.
See now you're using jokes as replies to peoples comments.

[x1onexwo1fx]

I was adopted and i'm sure abortion was an option for my birth parents. I thank god they chose to give me away to a good loving family.

yes, adoption > abortion any day of the week. but i want women to at least have that option.

and plus we were kind of joking around about overpopulation there, so. but yay, you're alive!

i think abortion would be better if the baby was an accident and it was a fucked up alcoholic baby or something. maybe one situation that would make a woman consider abortion over adoption.

[saveferris]

yes, adoption > abortion any day of the week. but i want women to at least have that option.

and plus we were kind of joking around about overpopulation there, so. but yay, you're alive!

i think abortion would be better if the baby was an accident and it was a fucked up alcoholic baby or something. maybe one situation that would make a woman consider abortion over adoption.
Very true. My stance on abortion is actually divided. I'm just happy my birth parents allowed me to live. I got lucky that they were clean, responsible adults.

[maxvsmaradona]

You're a survivor by you own will. Some people don't have that strength and need companies like this to help them. And again you don't really know how much TWLOHA gives to charity. Just because they don't give all of it doesn't mean they're cheap. How much is enough money? Also nobody knows if Kurt's heroin OD was an accident. Nor do we know if Courtney shot him or not.

95% of profit made off their shitty teeshirts and up.

okay that's cool, but let me ask you this, how much of their profits do they donate towards researching how to build a badass spaceship or a laser cannon that has wifi?

I'll answer for you: not enough. not enough at all.

Oh god. This laser cannon business has me crying with laughter.

[saveferris]

95% of profit made off their shitty teeshirts and up.




You're kidding me right? Ignore the fact that you think the shirts are shitty. That shouldn't even be a factor in your argument.

[x1onexwo1fx]

to Max: if TWLOHA did give all their profits to charity, would you support them?

[TachyonEvan]

This is horrifyingly stupid.

TWLOHA could be improved, granted, but I fully support it at this point in time.

[maxvsmaradona]

You're kidding me right? Ignore the fact that you think the shirts are shitty. That shouldn't even be a factor in your argument.

Shitty teeshirts are shitty. I don't know what else you want me to say.

to Max: if TWLOHA did give all their profits to charity, would you support them?

Yes, 100%.

[saveferris]

Shitty teeshirts are shitty. I don't know what else you want me to say.




There is no need to bring that up. TWLOHA got to where they were by following the same formula they do today. It has worked for them. They're even up for an MTV award. They couldn't have done that if they didn't keep some of the money to sell their shirts. Sadly that's all some kids care about. But there are enough kids like me who see more than a t shirt when it comes to TWLOHA.

[maxvsmaradona]

There is plenty need to bring their shitty teeshirts up. TWLOHA got to where they were by following the same formula they do today, by making shitty teeshirts. Scene crybabies buying into a fad, instead of the few who actually needed help, worked for them. They're even up for an MTV award for their shitty teeshirts. They couldn't have done that if they didn't keep some of the money to sell their shitty teeshirts. Sadly that's all some kids care about, buying shitty teeshirts and being fashionable, trend following douchebags. But there are enough kids like me who see more than a shitty teeshirt when it comes to TWLOHA. did I say "shitty teeshirt" enough?

fix'd.

[x1onexwo1fx]

Shitty teeshirts are shitty. I don't know what else you want me to say.



Yes, 100%.

so your stance is that the organization is cool, but you are skeptical about where their money goes. ...and you don't like their trendy t-shirt designs. correct?

and i'm hoping you are aware that the organization also tours with bands, talks with people on myspace, etc., that selling t-shirts isn't all that they do.

i'm not trying to argue (that's saveferris' job), i'm just trying to understand where you're coming from.

[maxvsmaradona]

so your stance is that the organization is cool, but you are skeptical about where their money goes. ...and you don't like their trendy t-shirt designs. correct?

and i'm hoping you are aware that the organization also tours with bands, talks with people on myspace, etc., that selling t-shirts isn't all that they do.

i'm not trying to argue (that's saveferris' job), i'm just trying to understand where you're coming from.

The organization is cool, but rather pointless, in my own personal opinion. We don't need a trendy organization to tell us not to kill ourselves. There are better forms of outreach instead of buying a shitty teeshirt, which we don't know how much profit goes to charity. And their design is ok, it's the people who buy them to only fit the sceenager trend is what pisses me off.

[x togepi x]

And you don't know if he isn't keeping the money for himself. You can't back it up.

I would think the fact that he's able to call his organization a "nonprofit" and hasn't been sued by some person who hates scene kids is proof enough. Nonprofit status is something that's pretty heavily regulated for tax purposes. I highly doubt an organization who's reached their level of prominence would be able to get by pocketing all the cash and pretending they're a nonprofit. I'd be more likely to agree with you if they were just saying they're a charity organization but nonprofit means something pretty specific.

[TSTLSOOM]

If it wasn't for suicide, Hitler would still be rolling around killing Jews.

I don't like Hitler. That's why I support suicide.
wow, that makes sense now.

[deathinkosovo]

wow, that makes sense now.

See, now you're on the train. Suicide has singlehandedly -- or, single-wristedly -- solved some of the world's greatest problems. Hitler, for example, would've probably gassed six million more Jewish folk had he not put a slug in his brain. But he didn't. Why? Suicide, that's why. Thank you, suicide. And Kurt Cobain. We all love Nirvana, right? Would Nirvana have been as popular or cool if he didn't paint the walls red with his own blood? No, of course not. Dave Grohl and the other guy are set for life thanks to Kurt's "sacrifice." And what about the Canadian Crippler, Chris Benoit? He found out about his family's secret plot to murder he and his wrestler friends, so he took it about himself to German suplex them into submission before they could act upon their devious scheme.

Suicide saves lives, bro. It's just facts.

[saveferris]

fix'd.
You're definitely an ignorant tool who ran out of defense mechanisms to argue. TWLOHA is a company that expresses massive interest in the prevention of suicide and violence in the world. They do way more then sell "shitty" t-shirts. They go on tours, handle emails and calls, do speeches at colleges, and work with different orginizations to help treat depressilon. If you don't like the shirt then don't buy it. But for some reason you're blaming TWLOHA for attention grabbing scene kids wearing their shirts. They can't individually monitor who's gonna wear their shirts. It's a way (a good way) to get their name out there and create a faithful following. They also have a street team for other kids to spread the message. You're taking your frustration about scene kids out on a company that has done nothing but promote a positive image and lifestyle. The non-profit part stems from the fact that the owners don't personally keep the money for themselves (you can't prove they do) and use it to go on tours and keep the company alive. I am proof that some kids don't wear t-shirts because it's the trendy or scene thing to do but because they have suffered from bi-polar depression (i'm talking about me here) and like the fact that a company can relate to him on a musical level and has bands help out the cause. Some of my favorite bands are big supporters of TWLOHA and that's how I heard about them. Not because some scene kid was wearing a shirt. I've worn their shirts plenty of times and had people ask me "what does that mean?" which gives me an oppurtunity to explain TWLOHA's movement. So those "shitty teeshirts" you're talking about have given people the chance to learn about a new company and it's goals from someone who really cares about the cause. There is a tax form proof on TWLOHA's website. I suggest you check it out. It's from the government clearing them as a non-profit charity. Jamie is not an asshole he is a very nice guy who i've had the pleasure of meeting on one of the tours. He makes himself and other staffers available for help when needed.

[saveferris]

See, now you're on the train. Suicide has singlehandedly -- or, single-wristedly -- solved some of the world's greatest problems. Hitler, for example, would've probably gassed six million more Jewish folk had he not put a slug in his brain. But he didn't. Why? Suicide, that's why. Thank you, suicide. And Kurt Cobain. We all love Nirvana, right? Would Nirvana have been as popular or cool if he didn't paint the walls red with his own blood? No, of course not. Dave Grohl and the other guy are set for life thanks to Kurt's "sacrifice." And what about the Canadian Crippler, Chris Benoit? He found out about his family's secret plot to murder he and his wrestler friends, so he took it about himself to German suplex them into submission before they could act upon their devious scheme.

Suicide saves lives, bro. It's just facts.
Nirvana was already popular. Smells like teen spirit was a huge hit for the band and they had sold out shows and appearances on MTV before Kurt died. To say suicide saves lives is a bit ridiculous. It's a fact that it doesn't seeing that the act of suicide means to kill yourself. And if you do your research better Hitler wouldn't have gassed six million more Jews if not for suicide. He was cornered by an Army and killed himself before they could kill him. Either way he would have been dead on that day. Killing does way more harm then good most of the time.

[ted is lying]

I don't care.
Well i do.

[ted is lying]

Why? It's proof to shut up you ingorant fools that TWLOHA is a non profit orginization. The pictures were for two different people to look at. Let's not be weird and scrutinize everything I do just because you don't like the company.
I do like the company you don't.

[ted is lying]

Why do you guys hate this company?
I don't they make such nice t shirts I just want to throw money at them.

[saveferris]

I do like the company you don't.
I love the company

[TachyonEvan]

:hitself:

[maxvsmaradona]

You're definitely an ignorant tool who ran out of defense mechanisms to argue. TWLOHA is a company that expresses massive interest in the prevention of suicide and violence in the world. They do way more then sell "shitty" t-shirts. They go on tours, handle emails and calls, do speeches at colleges, and work with different orginizations to help treat depressilon. If you don't like the shirt then don't buy it. But for some reason you're blaming TWLOHA for attention grabbing scene kids wearing their shirts. They can't individually monitor who's gonna wear their shirts. It's a way (a good way) to get their name out there and create a faithful following. They also have a street team for other kids to spread the message. You're taking your frustration about scene kids out on a company that has done nothing but promote a positive image and lifestyle. The non-profit part stems from the fact that the owners don't personally keep the money for themselves (you can't prove they do) and use it to go on tours and keep the company alive. I am proof that some kids don't wear t-shirts because it's the trendy or scene thing to do but because they have suffered from bi-polar depression (i'm talking about me here) and like the fact that a company can relate to him on a musical level and has bands help out the cause. Some of my favorite bands are big supporters of TWLOHA and that's how I heard about them. Not because some scene kid was wearing a shirt. I've worn their shirts plenty of times and had people ask me "what does that mean?" which gives me an oppurtunity to explain TWLOHA's movement. So those "shitty teeshirts" you're talking about have given people the chance to learn about a new company and it's goals from someone who really cares about the cause. There is a tax form proof on TWLOHA's website. I suggest you check it out. It's from the government clearing them as a non-profit charity. Jamie is not an asshole he is a very nice guy who i've had the pleasure of meeting on one of the tours. He makes himself and other staffers available for help when needed.

tl;dr. TWLOHA is dumb. They don't give enough to charity.

/argument

[saveferris]

tl;dr. TWLOHA is dumb. They don't give enough to charity.

/argument
You're an idiot. They CAN'T give all of their money to charity or else they wouldn't exist.

[maxvsmaradona]

You're an idiot. They CAN'T give all of their money to charity or else they wouldn't exist.

No, they can give all their money to charity. If people like the shirts so much to spread awareness, they can make their own shirts, and TWLOHA would exist.

[saveferris]

No, they can give all their money to charity. If people like the shirts so much to spread awareness, they can make their own shirts, and TWLOHA would exist.
you're wrong.

[maxvsmaradona]

you're wrong.

No, I'm not. Let's put it this way. Jesse Lacey, lead singer of Brand New, has said that people should make their own shirts, instead of buying the merch. If people did that, would Brand New still exist? Yes. Yes, they would.

[saveferris]

No, I'm not. Let's put it this way. Jesse Lacey, lead singer of Brand New, has said that people should make their own shirts, instead of buying the merch. If people did that, would Brand New still exist? Yes. Yes, they would.
That's different. Brand New has a lot more to fall back on. TWLOHA got to where they were by making t shirts for bands to wear.

[maxvsmaradona]

That's different. Brand New has a lot more to fall back on. TWLOHA got to where they were by making t shirts for bands to wear.

And now they have a good name for themselves, so they can stop making shirts, and give all the money to charity.

[saveferris]

And now they have a good name for themselves, so they can stop making shirts, and give all the money to charity.
Why would they stop doing what made them so popular? They enjoy making t-shirts. At least they give money to charity. They give a lot actually.

[maxvsmaradona]

Why would they stop doing what made them so popular? They enjoy making t-shirts. At least they give money to charity. They give a lot actually.

A portion isn't a lot. All of it is a lot.

[BryterJonah]

VwMNsrc8O8o

Suicide kills cult freaks!

[BryterJonah]

And really, a lot more people would be better off biting the bullet.

[awkwardlastword]

A few clicks will help @TWLOHA win $1 Million for suicide prevention. Please share this with others. Vote here: http://bit.ly/7si7Be

[BryterJonah]

Why would I want to prevent suicide when it's the one thing that could get you off the streets?








:snoopy:

[x1onexwo1fx]

old thread is dead. don't dig up the grave.

[Thesleepingwell]

Why would I want to prevent suicide when it's the one thing that could get you off the streets?

What the hell?
Have you ever been a situation that has forced you to cotemplate the thought?
Some people are in need of help. TWLOHA's efforts are commendable.

[BryterJonah]

What the hell?
Have you ever been a situation that has forced you to cotemplate the thought?
Some people are in need of help. TWLOHA's efforts are commendable.
Yep. Get pretty close on several occasions too.

So I should know first hand that people going through that are LAZY AS SHIT. unless you're a poet.






:snoopy:

[Thesleepingwell]

Yep. Get pretty close on several occasions too.

So I should know first hand that people going through that are LAZY AS SHIT. unless you're a poet.

Not everyone who has considered suicide is lazy. Thoughts of that nature can be caused by anything.
Sounds stereotypical to me.

Been there and believe it or not, back then I had to do it on my own.
Not everyone has the will to refrain from such thoughts.
Lazy isn't the right word to describe it either. When the thought enters your head you feel helpless not lazy.

[Mibabalou]

i dislike twloha

they need to give 100% to charity

[BryterJonah]

Not everyone who has considered suicide is lazy. Thoughts of that nature can be caused by anything.
Sounds stereotypical to me.

Been there and believe it or not, back then I had to do it on my own.
Not everyone has the will to refrain from such thoughts.
Lazy isn't the right word to describe it either. When the thought enters your head you feel helpless not lazy.
You think Napoleon felt helpless or depressed? No.

You got to think big and think with power. Otherwise yeah, you really are helpless.






:snoopy:

[SunnyInPhilly]

You think Napoleon felt helpless or depressed? No.

You got to think big and think with power. Otherwise yeah, you really are helpless.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Everyone who thinks suicidal thoughts is lazy?

[BryterJonah]

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Everyone who thinks suicidal thoughts is lazy?
They're melancholy. Which lead into laziness.

I'm just saying that thoughts like that are no good for anyone who legitimately seeks world domination.






:snoopy:

[xxemo_kittyxx]

No, I'm not. Let's put it this way. Jesse Lacey, lead singer of Brand New, has said that people should make their own shirts, instead of buying the merch. If people did that, would Brand New still exist? Yes. Yes, they would.

No man, that's different. First, a band cannot be compared to an organization, there's a lot more planning and management that keeps it running. They do more tangible social work, and the key to their success is to meet an end goal. In TWLOHA's case, the goal is to promote the depression/addiction/etc issues. Bands ideally should exist to fulfil the aesthetic and cathartic needs of artists, merch sales have no relevance whatsoever with their existance. It would keep them on the road or pay for the production of new records, but the existance is technically based on agreement.

I understand that you're sensitive towards this organisation, I'm trying to stay out of this debate but that up there needs to be cleared up :)

[Basara]

To Write Love On Her Arms is a t shirt company with a gimmick.
People who think every depressed person is a bitchy kid or a pretentious artist are ignorant.

/post

[showmethefever]

I hate pretty much everything about this.

[SophomoricSlump]

Jesus Christ this thread is such a waste of time.
Everyone needs to stop bitching and get over it.

[<*)))><]

I own a t shirt

[xrider105]

I think most kids who buy TWLOHA shirts are missing the message. Not the organization's fault.

I like TWLOHA, but fully support HOPELINE more. Same cause though.

[Michellee]

This is a super old thread but it made me think of this post on tumblr from like last year.
"
On the outside TWLOHA seems like a fantastic charity to support. Teen suicide and cutting is a very serious issue (only about 1,500 teens actually commit suicide a year (between 15-18), only ranking as number 3 top causes of death in teens behind car accidents with around 7,000 a year and homicides with 1,800. From the age ranges of 11-18 theres about 5,000 teen suicides a year. Cutting and other self-injury on the other hand is performed by millions of teenagers daily and will often go without being known.) But, and here is where the giant but comes in, I have been doing some research on To Write Love On Her Arms, and have decided that it’s all just a big facade.
So I started this off by going to www.twloha.com (http://www.twloha.com/) , and the first thing that pops up is “New Lime Colored T-shirt” Okay, this is a good start, you’re telling me to buy your merchandise before I know what you are all about. So their page is some links, some picture telling me to donate, a blog, yadda yadda yadda the typical website. Okay so on the navigation bar the first thing to click is “vision.” I clicked that and it’s basically telling me that “I am loved.” Okay that’s nice twloha, how is that helping me from not committing suicide? Next link, “blog”, Just a person telling me they are excited about new shirts coming out, okay still not helping me. Next link, “news” oh someone was featured in a myspace video, didn’t everyone stop using myspace once facebook came around? Then the “calender” link, okay you are coming to a bunch of colleges to speak, but not my college so this doesn’t matter to me, especially since I don’t know what you are talking about. One of my personal favorite navigation links is next, the “facts” link. Basically telling me how many people are depressed in this world. Okay maybe this would help me feel less lonely in the world but then make me realize how much of a depressing place this world is and just make it worse. Then it gives me facts about depression. That is what WebMD is for. Then it lists different types f self injury,so now you’re giving me new ideas to self injure myself? We’re going to skip the 6th link for now and we’ll discuss it after the final two links. The 7th link is the “move” link telling you where to send your money buy their merchandise and sign up for the street team. The last link is the “store” link where you can buy all their merch that you see everywhere.
So now back to the 6th link on the navigation site. The “Find Help” link, which seems the most important. Let me state the FIRST line that is on this page:
“We are not a 24-hour helpline. We are not trained professionals. TWLOHA hopes to serve as a bridge to help.”
(Hmm. I bet some of you “fans” wearing that TWLOHA shirt because Hayley Williams does did not know this.)
Then it goes on to say if you know someone who is going to hurt themselves call 1-800-suicide (which by the way is not owned my twloha for those of you that did not know that.) Then the rest of that pages just lists other hotline numbers, treatment places and just a bunch of links you can easily find with Google.com.
So, from what I can see just navigating their website, they only seem to sell merchandise and tell people where to go if they self-injure themselves. This seems very odd.
So then I wondered, what do they do with their money that they get donated to them, how much do they get, etc. I then found a very tiny link on the very bottom of the homepage called “Finances” and decided to go through it. It gives you their revenue (money earned) and where it comes from. Then it lists expenses. First I will state their revenue was $1,411,646 for 2008 ($1,183,483 coming from merchandise sales.) The expenses for 2008 ended up being $969,103. This ends up with a net income of $442,543. Hmm, okay i thought your charity was a non profit organization where your money was supposed to go to helping.
The way their expenses are broken up are by “Treatment and Recovery” which is money given to scholarships and organizations. That is only $337, 806 (excuse me if I am wrong though, they make the font so small so people can barely read it.) Then $109,160 goes to “Awareness and Outreach” which are events they hold. $31,635 goes to promotional tools, like their street team and websites (who knew websites could be that expensive!) $61,336 goes to their intern program. Then $239,178 goes to their staff (hmm, I thought it was a non-profit organization.) $90,816 goes to fundraising. $99,816 goes to advertising. So a total of $337,806 out of $1,411,646 ACTUALLY went to helping and preventing suicide and self-injury. Is it me or does something seem completely wrong with these numbers? Especially since they had a left over net income of $442,543. Hm I don’t know. Maybe I am just crazy, or maybe this precious “To Write Love On Her Arms” organization you all love so much maybe might just be playing you all for money. Go back through the Envy On the Coast Lyrics and think a little about what I said, maybe you’ll start to see it too."




Honestly, I'm not sure if the facts are real or not but it was a good read.