Most influental Bands on modern Alternative Rock?

[iamNex]

Hey there,

I am writing an article for my online fanzine of the area I live in on "Most Influental Bands on modern Alternative Rock".
Please no Genre-Discussing now.
For now, with Alternative Rock i mean all: Alternative, Post-Hardcore, Hardcore, Punkrock, Pop-Punk, Indie, Screamo, emo, emocore, etc..
All.

I did not order them according to their influence yet.
At the moment I'd go with:

-The Cure
-The Smiths
-Nirvana
-Joy Division
-Fugazi
-Rites of Spring
-Green Day
-NOFX
-Misfits
-Refused
-Ramones
-Sex Pistols

Please let me know who'd you put in the list? Which Band is missing? Am i wrong with some Band?

Go for it ;)

[briewer]

R.E.M. and the Pixies.

[MADSTA]

Built to Spill
The Pixies
Radiohead
Modest Mouse
Pavement
Elliott Smith
I had to.

[Rodeo]

Nine Inch Nails.

[the andyspecial]

Helmet
Weezer
Metallica
Far
Led Zepplin
the Beatles

[zrac99]

um... Faith No More?

[PaperLantern]

I think Green Day is a must.

[DTFHRecords]

jawbreaker
jawbox
Fugazi
The Descendents
At the Drive in
Refused
AVAIL
Hot Water Music
Coalesce

[Mibabalou]

nirvana
jimmy eat world

[DTFHRecords]

also:
Braid
Sunny Day Real Estate
the get up kids
Mineral
Orchid
Rites of Spring
Propagandhi
Lifetime
Wilco
Weakerthans

[DanTGD]

Even though they're still fairly recent Blink-182, New Found Glory and The Offspring, all pretty much shaped pop punk.

[DTFHRecords]

Even though they're still fairly recent Blink-182, New Found Glory and The Offspring, all pretty much shaped pop punk.

uhhhh The Descendents,NOFX,Anything on Lookout! Records in the past 20 years, Anything on Epitaph before 2002?

[sleepyseanzzz]

rancid

[*Ro']

The "23 bands who sheaped punk" list from AP wasn't bad at all.

Fugazi
Crass
Bikini Kill
Fuel
Youth Of Today
Integrity
Operation Ivy
Cro-Mags
Screamers
Earth Crisis
Buzzcocks
Unbroken
Moss Icon
Descendents
Heroin
Black Flag
Christie Front Drive
Drive Like Jehu
Hüsker Dü
Bad Brains
Cap'n Jazz
Sunny Day Real Estate
Grade

[gr33ndayfr3ak]

Dunno why The Clash hasn't been mentioned yet.

[Ill]

Blink.

[_><_]

Definitely Refused and At The Drive-In.

[circasuicide]

brand new.

rancid is one of the worst bands ever.

[Rubato]

NOFX absolutely defined 90's punk rock. They are the fucking granddaddys of the 90's so-cal skate punk sound. They did it better, harder and faster than anyone.

Most of the other names mentioned are spot on too... especially Radiohead, Pixies, Smiths, Cure, Nirvana, etc.

As much as bands like the Weakerthans are incredible (my second favorite band of all time), I kind of doubt the influence they hold. They're not even that well known (tragically).

[DanTGD]

uhhhh The Descendents,NOFX,Anything on Lookout! Records in the past 20 years, Anything on Epitaph before 2002?

I'm not saying that they didn't have anything to do with it. But about 90% of pop punk bands to form in the last 3 or so years will have either Blink, New Found Glory, Offspring, Fall Out Boy, Green Day or Jimmy Eat World as one of their influences.

[Smeee]

A lot of bands that have come through in the past 5 years list Jimmy Eat World as a big influence. Even bands who don't sound anything like them - As Cities Burn, for example, name JEW as the band that all their members loved.

[Rubato]

I'm not saying that they didn't have anything to do with it. But about 90% of pop punk bands to form in the last 3 or so years will have either Blink, New Found Glory, Offspring, Fall Out Boy, Green Day or Jimmy Eat World as one of their influences.

Fall Out Boy does not deserve to be in that list. Neither does NFG really... as they both have styles that are indistinguishable from the plethora of pop-punk bands that Blink, Green Day and the Offspring ushered in.

[meroki22]

Pixies
Pixies
Pixies

[iamNex]

Lol Falloutboy and NFG or Brand new? are u kidding me?
Those members have barely hit the 30 years of their lifes yet...rly not influental though.

I think i will add Pixies, REM, At the drive in, and let's see...

Oh and i was thinking about Depeche Mode.

[Regards]

A lot of bands that have come through in the past 5 years list Jimmy Eat World as a big influence. Even bands who don't sound anything like them - As Cities Burn, for example, name JEW as the band that all their members loved.
That's not really an influence then though.

[Cameronisonfire]

crazytown

[11:11]

The Get Up Kids are a big one for most of the newer bands coming out.

[kbi the crowing]

crazytown

I'd feel sorry for anyone influenced by them

[matchbox202006]

Jimmy Eat World
Blink 182
At the Drive In
Nirvana
Soundgarden
Third Eye Blind

[matchbox202006]

I'd feel sorry for anyone influenced by them

agreed.

[Formatfun]

blink-182 and Green Day for sure.

[meroki22]

Do people honestly believe that Blink 182 is one of the most influential bands of all time? I love Blink 182, but that's just absurd.

[matchbox202006]

Do people honestly believe that Blink 182 is one of the most influential bands of all time? I love Blink 182, but that's just absurd.

In fact my friend, they have influenced alot of bands. ALOT OF BANDS. ALOT.

[kbi the crowing]

Do people honestly believe that Blink 182 is one of the most influential bands of all time? I love Blink 182, but that's just absurd.

read the poll

[Rodeo]

Faith No More helped bastardize rap/metal

[matchbox202006]

Faith No More helped bastardize rap/metal

before it was mutilated beyond recognition

[kingspud]

strung out
converge
greenday
pearl jam
helmet
faith no more (without a boubt!)

[kingspud]

Faith No More helped bastardize rap/metal

they fuckin' invented it you nogin!

[Twikki]

elliott smith
the smiths
the cure
misfits
placebo
radiohead
nirvana
pearl jam
oasis

[the1]

AFI?? Even if they did give us bands like Aiden *sigh*

[Rodeo]

they fuckin' invented it you nogin!



Pretty sure "Walk this Way" came first.

[Nourez]

Hmmm, Neutral Milk Hotel would be a good band to look at. Huge influence considering they only released 2 albums. Nirvana is a definite must as well, but I'm pretty sure that's been mentioned already.

[kingspud]

Pretty sure "Walk this Way" came first.

oh i see, so basically you're saying that aerosmith (and to some extent run d mc) are responsible for rage, korn and all the rest of them? interesting :S

[geebee889]

Wait, no Incubus?

[beersbeers]

pixies, that is all.

[Broclee]

Fall Out Boy does not deserve to be in that list. Neither does NFG really... as they both have styles that are indistinguishable from the plethora of pop-punk bands that Blink, Green Day and the Offspring ushered in.

Fall Out Boy don't deserve to be on the list because they're too recent. If you've listened to anything they've put out in the past almost three years, you'd realize they've distinguished themselves from their peers, the opposite of what you're saying. In time, I think Fall Out Boy, and especially their later output, will be considered high influential in the alt rock world (using the same "alternative" definition in the OP's post).

[dissident]

not enough pearl jam mentions. their music post Vs. was ahead of its time as far as the sound of a lot of "indie" bands today.

[iamNex]

Ok here's the updated List:

-The Cure
-The Smiths
-Nirvana
-Joy Division
-Fugazi
-Rites of Spring
-Green Day
-NOFX
-Misfits
-Refused
-Ramones
-Sex Pistols
-At the Drive-In
-Pixies
-The Clash
-R.E.M.
-Depeche Mode
-Radiohead
-Nine Inch Nails
-Black Flag
-Minor Threat
-Embrace
-Hot Water Music
-The Get Up Kids
-Hüsker Dü
-Bad Brains
-The Get Up Kids

And I still have to consider about these Bands:

-Pearl Jam
-Jimmy Eat World
-Rancid
-Mineral
-Smashing Pumkins
-Blink 182
-Faith no more
-Sunny Day Real Estate
-Oasis
-

[matchbox202006]

Ok here's the updated List:

-The Cure
-The Smiths
-Nirvana
-Joy Division
-Fugazi
-Rites of Spring
-Green Day
-NOFX
-Misfits
-Refused
-Ramones
-Sex Pistols
-At the Drive-In
-Pixies
-The Clash
-R.E.M.
-Depeche Mode
-Radiohead
-Nine Inch Nails
-Black Flag
-Minor Threat
-Embrace
-Hot Water Music
-The Get Up Kids
-Hüsker Dü
-Bad Brains
-The Get Up Kids

And I still have to consider about these Bands:

-Pearl Jam
-Jimmy Eat World
-Rancid
-Mineral
-Smashing Pumkins
-Blink 182
-Faith no more
-Sunny Day Real Estate
-Oasis
-

this guy is spot on with this list.

[ilikesound93]

The Replacements, you fuckers.

[amplifire]

Blink-182 have inspired a lot of popular pop-punk bands...

[matchbox202006]

The Replacements, you fuckers.

Right, can't forget them

[shit stroll]

Blink-182 have inspired a lot of popular pop-punk bands...
yeah, a lot of shitty ones...

[matchbox202006]

yeah, all of the shitty ones.

That was a good one right there, good jokes man

[iamNex]

lol what do you mean with me being spot on with the list? :D

[matchbox202006]

lol what do you mean with me being spot on with the list? :D


By spot on, i meant spot on, you're right, and good job

[everyonesfault]

The fact that 20th century Weezer is not on this list is fucking absurd.
Also,
Uncle Tupelo
Jawbreaker
Big Star
Replacements
Springsteen & the E-Street Band
Botch
Guided by Voices
Neutral Milk Hotel
Talking Heads
Slint (seriously, how has no one said this yet?)
Metallica
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
The Flaming Lips

[mmmmmpoetry]

The "23 bands who sheaped punk" list from AP wasn't bad at all.

Fugazi
Crass
Bikini Kill
Fuel
Youth Of Today
Integrity
Operation Ivy
Cro-Mags
Screamers
Earth Crisis
Buzzcocks
Unbroken
Moss Icon
Descendents
Heroin
Black Flag
Christie Front Drive
Drive Like Jehu
Hüsker Dü
Bad Brains
Cap'n Jazz
Sunny Day Real Estate
Grade

I really like this list. Especially Crass.

[dissident]

Ok here's the updated List:

-The Cure
-The Smiths
-Nirvana
-Joy Division
-Fugazi
-Rites of Spring
-Green Day
-NOFX
-Misfits
-Refused
-Ramones
-Sex Pistols
-At the Drive-In
-Pixies
-The Clash
-R.E.M.
-Depeche Mode
-Radiohead
-Nine Inch Nails
-Black Flag
-Minor Threat
-Embrace
-Hot Water Music
-The Get Up Kids
-Hüsker Dü
-Bad Brains
-The Get Up Kids

And I still have to consider about these Bands:

-Pearl Jam
-Jimmy Eat World
-Rancid
-Mineral
-Smashing Pumkins
-Blink 182
-Faith no more
-Sunny Day Real Estate
-Oasis
-

you still have to consider smashing pumpkins and pearl jam? they should be at the top of your list.

and as much as i love rancid, i really can't think of any newer bands that have been influenced by them.

[everyonesfault]

That was a good one right there, good jokes man
It wasn't a joke, he's right. You must not listen to much pop-punk if you really think that bands in the genre these days are taking their cues from Blink and not Dillinger Four.

[dissident]

That was a good one right there, good jokes man

well he's right. blink is fun and all, but they're a big reason why "punk" is so fucking terrible now.

[everyonesfault]

well he's right. blink is fun and all, but they're a big reason why "punk" is so fucking terrible now.
It's not. There are a lot of good punk bands these days. The problem is that only an extremely small percentage of people who post on this site actually listen to punk.

[dissident]

what do they listen to then? because by and large all i see are scene dorks here.

[FueledByFrodo]

The Beatles > All

[amplifire]

yeah, a lot of shitty ones...


Haha Yes, I know. Hence the '...'

[amplifire]

The Beatles > All

True, but I wouldn't say they influenced many "modern alternative rock" bands

[FueledByFrodo]

True, but I wouldn't say they influenced many "modern alternative rock" bands
False. Almost every band cites them as an influence.

[Sigur Ros]

The "23 bands who sheaped punk" list from AP wasn't bad at all.

Fugazi
Crass
Bikini Kill
Fuel
Youth Of Today
Integrity
Operation Ivy
Cro-Mags
Screamers
Earth Crisis
Buzzcocks
Unbroken
Moss Icon
Descendents
Heroin
Black Flag
Christie Front Drive
Drive Like Jehu
Hüsker Dü
Bad Brains
Cap'n Jazz
Sunny Day Real Estate
Grade

+Indian Summer, Swing Kids, Minor Threat, Usurp Synapse, Saetia

This is probably the most legitimate list on here. People will never realize how much screamo/hardcore/emo, or that "skramz" bullshit influenced almost all indie rock and modern alternative.

I'm sure a bunch of tools in bands will say that Led Zeppelin and ACDC influenced them the most, but they probably suck and/or play in Nickelback, so it's all good.

[everyonesfault]

+Indian Summer, Swing Kids, Minor Threat, Usurp Synapse, Saetia

This is probably the most legitimate list on here. People will never realize how much screamo/hardcore/emo, or that "skramz" bullshit influenced almost all indie rock and modern alternative.

I'm sure a bunch of tools in bands will say that Led Zeppelin and ACDC influenced them the most, but they probably suck and/or play in Nickelback, so it's all good.
That last part made you lose any credibility you may have had; while you're right that those bands were very influential, discounting the influence of Zeppelin and AC/DC is unbelievably ignorant and implying that the only bands that were influenced by them are Nickelback and the like is a generalization that has little factual basis. The truth is that those two bands, in fact, kick ass. Just because there are lots of morons who listen to modern rock radio that wear AC/DC shirts with chain wallets and tribal armbands does not mean that the band is not good. It's cool though, everyone goes through the phase where they listen exclusively to Revolution Summer-esque emo before they realize that some popular music is popular because it's actually quality.

[everyonesfault]

what do they listen to then? because by and large all i see are scene dorks here.
Not really. This is, more or less, a Brand New fansite. Brand New =/= anything resembling punk.

[Sigur Ros]

That last part made you lose any credibility you may have had; while you're right that those bands were very influential, discounting the influence of Zeppelin and AC/DC is unbelievably ignorant and implying that the only bands that were influenced by them are Nickelback and the like is a generalization that has little factual basis. The truth is that those two bands, in fact, kick ass. Just because there are lots of morons who listen to modern rock radio that wear AC/DC shirts with chain wallets and tribal armbands does not mean that the band is not good. It's cool though, everyone goes through the phase where they listen exclusively to Revolution Summer-esque emo before they realize that some popular music is popular because it's actually quality.

Are you fucking kidding me? Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands. What I'm saying is that their influence usually results in shitty bands dude. I am hardly bashing Zeppelin. I hate ACDC, but that's a different argument.

Zeppelin influenced rock as a whole; rock egos, rock lifestyle, the popularity of rock, the loudness of rock, but as far as direct influences to style and creativity, the bands I listed are the ones that I think influenced the sound of modern alternative rock music. Easy dude. I wouldn't be caught dead dissing Zep.

Edit: To your last comment, fuck you and fuck off.

[dissident]

Not really. This is, more or less, a Brand New fansite. Brand New =/= anything resembling punk.

yes but most of the users here do listen to other stuff besides brand new.

but to go with your theory that most users here are listening to bands like brand new, thrice, and other "scene" indie bands - they owe a lot more to early 90's alternative rock than most here are giving credit to.