Most Controversial Films

[preppyak]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060609/ap_en_mo/film_most_controversial

This list sounds weak, so I figured we'd make our own. They have Passion #1, and Kids is on their list (note, terrible movies don't count as controversial). Kubrick's Clockwork Orange is second.

What are some other controversial films?

[CutsLikeDrugS]

Salo
Red to Kill
Baise Moi
Happiness

[Carlo Marx]

irreversible

[matt_rawlings]

Salo
Red to Kill
Baise Moi
Happiness

I hope that I never see 'Salo'...it is just fucking wrong.

And happiness was both an increadible film and a horrible one (I actually felt sick to my stomach after it, just because of the subject matter and how the audience sympathises with a serial child molester)

[Spicoli hey bud]

I hope that I never see 'Salo'...it is just fucking wrong.

And happiness was both an increadible film and a horrible one (I actually felt sick to my stomach after it, just because of the subject matter and how the audience sympathises with a serial child molester)
didn't the producer of Salo get murdered after the film was released?

I've heard good things about happiness though.

[preppyak]

irreversible
I've seen that...it's just rough to watch. Yeah, I'd say that's on there.

Last Temptation of Christ and JFK were on there...I'd agree with those.

[fromwithin]

yet Salo got Criterion collection status........

[i like guitars]

didn't the producer of Salo get murdered after the film was released?

I've heard good things about happiness though.

whats salo about?

[preppyak]

this is another list I just saw...from The Guardian I think:

1 Salò (1975) Pier Paolo Pasolini
2 Natural Born Killers (1994) Oliver Stone
3 Crash (1996) David Cronenberg
4 The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) Martin Scorsese
5 The Devils (1971) Ken Russell
6 Pretty Baby (1977) Louis Malle
7 Birth of a Nation (1915) DW Griffith
8 Straw Dogs (1971) Sam Peckinpah
9 Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979) Terry Jones
10 Bandit Queen (1994) Shekhar Kapur

I think Birth of a Nation might be #1 though...it's impossible to discuss the greatness of that film due to it's racism

[preppyak]

haha...I'm trying to find Salo on netflix, and I don't believe they list it

I'm getting Happiness though...should see it next week probably

[analog_boy]

Mysterious Skin
L.I.E

[hobbes2809]

I think Birth of a Nation might be #1 though...it's impossible to discuss the greatness of that film due to it's racism

the technological achievements of that film for its time were monumental.

[hobbes2809]

I'm getting Happiness though...should see it next week probably

happiness is an extremely fucked up movie.


its also awesome.

[TheByrus]

invisible monsters.


just wait.

[matt_rawlings]

Nobody should ever want to or have to see Salo.

I have seen 5 minutes worth of clips from it and I was actually sickened by it.

The translation of the title is "40 Day Of Sodommy" and is about a group of jews in WWII being taken into a camp by some Nazi's and being forced to do some of the sickest imaginable acts such ass;

Eating their own shit/Drinking piss
Being raped by the guards randomly
Being sexually/physically tortured
Being forced to have sex with their own relatives/family

[matt_rawlings]

happiness is an extremely fucked up movie.


its also awesome.

Phillip Seymore Hoffman is a weird twisted fuck in that movie and the child mollester sickened me (because I felt sorry for him, even though he was evil through and through and made no justification for his actions other than he was a twisted fuck)

[Casey's Dad]

the technological achievements of that film for its time were monumental.
True, but it was so controversial (even in it's day), that DW Griffith made "Intolerance" as a follow-up to get in the public's good graces. One that I wish they would have listed was Battleship Potemkin, but oh well.

[hobbes2809]

Phillip Seymore Hoffman is a weird twisted fuck in that movie and the child mollester sickened me (because I felt sorry for him, even though he was evil through and through and made no justification for his actions other than he was a twisted fuck)

P.S.H. actually made me feel physically uncomfortable in this movie. credit to him being such a good actor.

[_all_star_me_]

Nobody should ever want to or have to see Salo.

I have seen 5 minutes worth of clips from it and I was actually sickened by it.

The translation of the title is "40 Day Of Sodommy" and is about a group of jews in WWII being taken into a camp by some Nazi's and being forced to do some of the sickest imaginable acts such ass;

Eating their own shit/Drinking piss
Being raped by the guards randomly
Being sexually/physically tortured
Being forced to have sex with their own relatives/family

thats absolutly crazy.

[_all_star_me_]

kids. fo shu.

[theacademyis]

I was going to ask, didnt EW see salo? You won't find salo on netflix or to buy really anywhere in the US but its sold in europe, I do believe it's been banned in several countries and they only released a few copies here before there were copyright problems and they had to stop releasing it. And apparently those original copies can sell for thousands.

It's all one big metaphor for the fascist regime in Italy and how they treated people though there is supposed to be a lot of literal truth to it but the movie as a whole was absolutely disgusting. Whoever described it was very kind to it's description. If you haven't seen Salo, DONT see it. Before I watched it, I expected it to be bad but I didn't realize to what degree it would be. Though the worst part is probably when they get to circle of shit (its divided into four parts, anteinferno, circle of manias, circle of shit, circle of blood) yeah that was definitely the worst part though at the end when they're killing all the people they've kept there, I honestly had to look away because I couldn't tolerate them scraping out someone's eye with a knife and how graphic it was. I don't think any other movie has left me more disturbed than this movie as a whole.

There are just a few quotes I remember such as how they talked about sewing rats into vaginas and the "storyteller" aka some prostitute said "there are a thousand reasons when one does not require a womans anus!"

[there_is_none]

A Clockwork Orange left me feeling the weridest I've ever felt after watching a movie, I had never seen it and my friend told me it was like his favorite movie. I had to question his motives for putting that one at the top of his list.

I don't know how really controversial they may be

but Requiem For A Dream always leaves me feeling sick and weird

Full Metal Jacket made me not want to be in the army at all

American History X and Higher Learning for your racisim


I saw the cover for that movie Salo and didnt want any part of it

[CutsLikeDrugS]

Nobody should ever want to or have to see Salo.

I have seen 5 minutes worth of clips from it and I was actually sickened by it.

The translation of the title is "40 Day Of Sodommy" and is about a group of jews in WWII being taken into a camp by some Nazi's and being forced to do some of the sickest imaginable acts such ass;

Eating their own shit/Drinking piss
Being raped by the guards randomly
Being sexually/physically tortured
Being forced to have sex with their own relatives/family
It's a great movie.
You will never find it to rent and it sold on Ebay a while back for 800 bucks. You'd do best trying to find it on a P2P server or soulseek. I recommend it as it is probably the most disturbing film ever made next to Men Behind the Sun.

Also, the Guinea Pig series were pretty controversial as they were believed to be real snuff films when they were first made. In fact, Charlie Sheen had one "come into his possession" and turned it over to the FBI because he thought it was real.

[matt_rawlings]

It's a great movie.
You will never find it to rent and it sold on Ebay a while back for 800 bucks. You'd do best trying to find it on a P2P server or soulseek. I recommend it as it is probably the most disturbing film ever made next to Men Behind the Sun.

Whats men behind the sun about/like?

[CutsLikeDrugS]

Whats men behind the sun about/like?
It's about Japanese experimentation/torture of the Chinese during WWII. It contains possibly the most controversial scene of all time (a cat is devoured by a giant pack of rats, the whole thing is thought to be real). It also graphically depicts what happens to the human body when put in a decompression chamber (not pretty). Most of the bodies used for the autopsy scenes were real cadavers. It's nasty fucking stuff.

Rats vs. Cat scene http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Car_vs_Rats_1944.html

Definitely watch at your own risk as this is a real cat being devoured by real rats.

[matt_rawlings]

It's about Japanese experimentation/torture of the Chinese during WWII. It contains possibly the most controversial scene of all time (a cat is devoured by a giant pack of rats, the whole thing is thought to be real). It also graphically depicts what happens to the human body when put in a decompression chamber (not pretty). Most of the bodies used for the autopsy scenes were real cadavers. It's nasty fucking stuff.

Rats vs. Cat scene http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Car_vs_Rats_1944.html

Definitely watch at your own risk as this is a real cat being devoured by real rats.

Man thats fucked up...so fucked up

Personally, I like films if they are good, have good dialogue and interesting narrative and structures.

There are so many films that are just out their to be offensive and serve little other purpose

[CutsLikeDrugS]

Man thats fucked up...so fucked up

Personally, I like films if they are good, have good dialogue and interesting narrative and structures.

There are so many films that are just out their to be offensive and serve little other purpose
Although the film is clearly an exploitation film, it serves more of a purpose than some (Red to Kill, Guinea Pig Films, Ilsa S.S. She-Wolf) as is shot documentary style to show the horrors faced by the Chinese. Whether or not the director's should have used a real cat and a real body for the autopsy and whether the decompression scene should have been as gory as it was can be questioned however.

[marrost]

P.S.H. actually made me feel physically uncomfortable in this movie. credit to him being such a good actor.He was fucking hilarious dude. You really couldn't handle it?

And has no one seen Pink Flamingos? A girl gets fucked with a live chicken. Then they kill and eat it.

Oh yea... and there's this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3t1h5LYXrl4

[CutsLikeDrugS]

If we're talking Asian films also, that's just a whole different can of worms. All the Category III Japanese films are deplorable.

[CutsLikeDrugS]

He was fucking hilarious dude. You really couldn't handle it?

And has no one seen Pink Flamingos? A girl gets fucked with a live chicken. Then they kill and eat it.

Oh yea... and there's this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3t1h5LYXrl4
Knew that was gonna be the shit-eating scene.

[CutsLikeDrugS]

Man enough?
http://youtube.com/results?search=men+behind+the+sun&search_type=search_videos

[Bichunmoo99]

Come and See is probably the toughest movie I've ever watched. After watching Irreversible, Ichi the Killer, Untold Story, Men Behind the Sun, etc, I thought nothing would shock me. Its usually not as graphic, but its like being kicked in the nuts constantly over the duration of the movie. In the movie, a Russian boy is forced to join the Russian army to stop the German soldiers during their invasion in World War II. It just gets painful to watch this young boy change before your eyes due to the events he's forced to be part of and witness.

[CutsLikeDrugS]

Come and See is probably the toughest movie I've ever watched. After watching Irreversible, Ichi the Killer, Untold Story, Men Behind the Sun, etc, I thought nothing would shock me. Its usually not as graphic, but its like being kicked in the nuts constantly over the duration of the movie. In the movie, a Russian boy is forced to join the Russian army to stop the German soldiers during their invasion in World War II. It just gets painful to watch this young boy change before your eyes due to the events he's forced to be part of and witness.
I was also told Come and See would be tougher than all those movies before I saw and I guess on some emotional level it is. But when you think about, Untold Story, Ebola Syndrome and Ichi the Killer are tempered by humor. Irreversible is tough but only because of certain scenes, same with Men Behind the Sun. The movies that effected me most on an emotional level were Red to Kill and Grave of the Fireflies (obviously for completely different reasons). Ilsa was the only film to make me physically ill.

[preppyak]

P.S.H. actually made me feel physically uncomfortable in this movie. credit to him being such a good actor.
I've never seem him act poorly, even though some of his roles have been so-so. I'm going to tempt a notion and say he is the greatest actor of the 90's and 00's.

Nobody should ever want to or have to see Salo.

I have seen 5 minutes worth of clips from it and I was actually sickened by it.

The translation of the title is "40 Day Of Sodommy" and is about a group of jews in WWII being taken into a camp by some Nazi's and being forced to do some of the sickest imaginable acts such ass;

Eating their own shit/Drinking piss
Being raped by the guards randomly
Being sexually/physically tortured
Being forced to have sex with their own relatives/family
I think it's the 120 days of Sodomy, based on a book of the same title (marquis de said) or soemthing, I was reading it at Wikipedia. But yeah, it sounded fucked up, but I had no idea the extent.

the technological achievements of that film for its time were monumental.
try arguing that in a class where nobody is either a. a film major, b. watches anything other than Hollywood production trash. I spent the entier 3-4 weeks we covered it trying to explain to them that every shot/technique that makes them love their terrible supsense and romance movies was pioneered or perfected in that movie. Never got through to them, though I got an A on the paper

[preppyak]

True, but it was so controversial (even in it's day), that DW Griffith made "Intolerance" as a follow-up to get in the public's good graces. One that I wish they would have listed was Battleship Potemkin, but oh well. Mmmm, Potemkin is good stuff. Nothing like saying "fuck off" to the military like the Odessa Step Sequence.

What's amazing is that the film was budgeted by Russia to celebrate their military power, etc and what they got was a film that celebrated the revolution against Tsarism.

It's odd actually, since someone mentioned Intolerance. I've been reading that Intolerance actually influence Potemkin, more particularly the way Eisenstein edited it, since he took the idea for the rapid editing in his montage from the end of Intolerance. You learn something new every day

[CutsLikeDrugS]

I've never seem him act poorly, even though some of his roles have been so-so. I'm going to tempt a notion and say he is the greatest actor of the 90's and 00's.

It's a toss up between him and Gael Garcia Bernal but I like the way you think.

[preppyak]

kids. fo shu.
terrible movie by the way.

I understand the whole "show them as monsters, shock the audience" idea, but the fact that it has no, and I repeat, no moral stance about it is both amazing and atrocious.

You can't make a movie about a kid who fucks virgins to avoid getting AIDS (despite already having it) and not in some way shape or form put a moral stamp on it. And the worst thing you can do is end it so ambiguously that it doesn't even feel mildly resolved.

I would probably hate it less had I not seen Bully before it, where the people fucking things up have consequences in the end.

[preppyak]

It's a toss up between him and Gael Garcia Bernal but I like the way you think.
True...I loved Y Tu Mama Tambien and THe Motorcycle Diaries. I don't watch enough foreign cinema (especially Spanish) to say I know him well as an actor, but I like him in both of those.

I just see PSH taking such a variety of roles (MI:3 and Capote, opposite roles basically) and being amazing in all of them.

[CutsLikeDrugS]

True...I loved Y Tu Mama Tambien and THe Motorcycle Diaries. I don't watch enough foreign cinema (especially Spanish) to say I know him well as an actor, but I like him in both of those.

I just see PSH taking such a variety of roles (MI:3 and Capote, opposite roles basically) and being amazing in all of them.
Yeah, that is what makes PSH special.

[dashboard1190]

Munich was intense (naked woman being killed by a blowdart looking thing)
Requiem For A Dream

and
like said before, Invisible Monsters, when it's made.

[preppyak]

Requiem For A Dream good one...it remains fairly controversial.

Invisble Monsters is going to be interesting...i wonder how it turns out

PS: my avatar is bigger :)

[dashboard1190]

good one...it remains fairly controversial.

Invisble Monsters is going to be interesting...i wonder how it turns out

PS: my avatar is bigger :)

I know...

But i'm too lazy to get a new one, plus when scrolling down a page, it's pretty easy to pick out.

[preppyak]

I know...

But i'm too lazy to get a new one, plus when scrolling down a page, it's pretty easy to pick out.
yeah...it just confused me, I was like "I didn't type that", then I realized it was someone else

[A picasso blue]

definitely "Un Chien Andalou" because it has meaning and isnt just made to shock you

people rioted in the streets when that came out

[mikeford]

KIDS is a fucking great movie, what the hell?

[aminorthreat55]

this is another list I just saw...from The Guardian I think:

1 Salò (1975) Pier Paolo Pasolini
2 Natural Born Killers (1994) Oliver Stone
3 Crash (1996) David Cronenberg
4 The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) Martin Scorsese
5 The Devils (1971) Ken Russell
6 Pretty Baby (1977) Louis Malle
7 Birth of a Nation (1915) DW Griffith
8 Straw Dogs (1971) Sam Peckinpah
9 Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979) Terry Jones
10 Bandit Queen (1994) Shekhar Kapur

I think Birth of a Nation might be #1 though...it's impossible to discuss the greatness of that film due to it's racism
Yeah, Birth of a Nation is ridiculous. I mean granted it was 1915, but even if you try to show it now in that context that it was from a completely different time, it still causes problems.

[EyesOfMadness]

has anyone seen a movie called "cannibal holocaust"? it was made in 1980 and was banned in australia, the uk and i believe italy (where the director is from)...

well i watched it and it made me physically sick to my stomach mainly because of the live animal torture/murder. alot of the movie is harmless and kinda cheesy but the live animal stuff made me physically ill, it includes:
- a mole type thing getting sliced and killed (really upsetting)
- a turtle getting caught and cut up for eating
- a monkey getting its facecut off and its brains eaten
- a bunch of animals being cut by machetes
and all of it is real...its really brutal, and with its history of controversy (including the arrest of the director and banning in several countries) i'd hazard a guess to say that it's one of the most controversial movies ever.

[Kyle Garchar]

backdoor sluts nine

[CutsLikeDrugS]

has anyone seen a movie called "cannibal holocaust"? it was made in 1980 and was banned in australia, the uk and i believe italy (where the director is from)...

well i watched it and it made me physically sick to my stomach mainly because of the live animal torture/murder. alot of the movie is harmless and kinda cheesy but the live animal stuff made me physically ill, it includes:
- a mole type thing getting sliced and killed (really upsetting)
- a turtle getting caught and cut up for eating
- a monkey getting its facecut off and its brains eaten
- a bunch of animals being cut by machetes
and all of it is real...its really brutal, and with its history of controversy (including the arrest of the director and banning in several countries) i'd hazard a guess to say that it's one of the most controversial movies ever.
Yeah but it is way to hyped as a controversial movie. There are worse than Cannibal Holocaust. However, CH is just a downright good movie.

[EyesOfMadness]

i still really found the live animal torture/killing really difficult to watch but i guess only because you know it's real

[SonnyBertGerard]

Jesus is Magic...I love this movie...hehehe bong.

[SonnyBertGerard]

Nobody should ever want to or have to see Salo.

I have seen 5 minutes worth of clips from it and I was actually sickened by it.

The translation of the title is "40 Day Of Sodommy" and is about a group of jews in WWII being taken into a camp by some Nazi's and being forced to do some of the sickest imaginable acts such ass;

Eating their own shit/Drinking piss
Being raped by the guards randomly
Being sexually/physically tortured
Being forced to have sex with their own relatives/family

http://imdb.com/title/tt0073650/ ?