Brand New Update

[Brandon Herbel]

Below is a long-awaited update from Brand New (http://www.brandnewrock.com):
Our main focus for these past 10 months was to make the best record we possibly couldfor us and you. With this in mind there was always a part we felt we could play better, or a part we felt could be improved. This tedious process explains why it has taken so long. We have all lost our minds on numerous occasions, and to be honeststill haven't found them.

We will finally be entering the mixing process on Monday June 12.
Rich Costey has signed on to man the faders and we all couldn't be happier!
The record should be outyou knowsometime this year..
There will be 13, 14, 15, or 16 songs being mixed
And 12, 13, 14, 15, or 16 of those songs will make it on the record.

We are blown away by the response the tour has received and hopefully will be testing out a few new songs on the road.

We, again, are sorry we have not kept you guys in the loop. We feel now that we are truly happy with our record, and we will notify you of any SIGNIFICANT news in the future.

We can't say it enough:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

.brian / brand new

[Mark 0)))]

I'm getting so sick of this band.

[ThatGirl]

love the typos mr herbel. :D

[Northstar1245]

It is about damn time they actually fucking said something about this album.

[dekdog11]

if 16 songs make this cd, that would be quite an accomplishment
but it would make up for this long ass wait
this gets me somewhat excited, i suppose

[jusscali]

september baby, please

[McSavah]

that's about time

[Brandon Herbel]

love the typos mr herbel. :D

sorry

[Take Heart]

I'm not familiar with Rich Costey, anyone know offhand what other albums he's produced / worked on?

EDIT: Quick google search shows he produced Absolution by Muse, anything else?

[Domenic182]

Excitement tingling in my veins.

[poppa Q]

Haha, wow.

[elemenohpe]

I'm not familiar with Rich Costey, anyone know offhand what other albums he's produced / worked on?

EDIT: Quick google search shows he produced Absolution by Muse, anything else?

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:al7zefek8gf2~T4

[YourMusicSucks]

If it's 15 or 16 songs I might forgive them. :P

I liked most of the leaked demos, this perfectionist attitude is a little unnecessary.

[Northstar1245]

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:al7zefek8gf2~T4 (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:al7zefek8gf2%7ET4)

So he did Boxcar, Mars Volta, and Muse. I like all of those albums...I'm satisfied.

[Take Heart]

We are very proud to announce that renowned Analrapist Dr. Tobias Funke will be producing the album!
http://www.mcdman.com/images/clients/costeyphoto%20(2).jpg

[irthesteve]

It is about damn time they actually fucking said something about this album.
oh fuck off... they can take as long as they want, they don't owe us anything so shut up. it shouldnt matter how much information or when they inform the fans, what matters is the final product. sure it's nice to know whats going on, but it really doesnt matter in the long run.

[Drew Beringer]

I need a release date to be completely satisfied lol.

[Northstar1245]

oh fuck off... they can take as long as they want, they don't owe us anything so shut up. it shouldnt matter how much information or when they inform the fans, what matters is the final product. sure it's nice to know whats going on, but it really doesnt matter in the long run.

Fuck you. I love these guys, they are my favorite band, but I don't think its cool to be so damn secretive. How hard is it for them to keep fans updated by saying, "Hey, we are making the album, we are having some problems which is why it is taking so long." This message should have been posted a little while ago. They haven't said shit about anything. Sure, nothing says that they have to say anything about what's going on, but just about every other band keeps their fans updated, while these guys just leave everyone in the dark about everything,

[walshknilb281]

how long does it usually take to mix a record

[Jared Kaufman]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.

[ForeverInADay]

only in mixing?

Yo fuck, they take a long time

[Domenic182]

It's gonna be worth the wait.

[Roboman]

Cue ~500 posts. At least it will be ~500 posts for a worthwhile update, though.

[sean omerta]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.

Jared, FTW.

[HiddenInNJ]

i guess 13,14,15 songs is good news... because its the only news so far

[com(?)]

To be honest I haven't minded the wait, I'm still stoked for this album

[Northstar1245]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.

That is not what I'm saying at all. What I meant was...I don't give a shit how long it takes, but if they would have said, listen, we are having some problems and we really do not like this record that we have. We want to put out something that really means something to us, therefore, we are going to take more time to right the record that we want to.

If that is what they want to do, by all means, please do. I love this band, I am so god damn excited for this record and I think it is going to prove a lot of people wrong about this band. But just a little info here and there would have been nice, instead of complete silence.

[hobbes2809]

goddamn I love me some brand new.

if its the best record they think they can make, then its going to be one hell of an album.

[walshknilb281]

has anyone actually received tickets to the Boston show, cuz im still waiting

[nfggc10]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.
thank you

best band around right now and this record will further prove that

[dpmurph]

Im so fucking pumped.

[dpmurph]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.
Amen.

[Jared Kaufman]

Jared, FTW.
What the heck does that mean?

[irthesteve]

Fuck you. I love these guys, they are my favorite band, but I don't think its cool to be so damn secretive. How hard is it for them to keep fans updated by saying, "Hey, we are making the album, we are having some problems which is why it is taking so long." This message should have been posted a little while ago. They haven't said shit about anything. Sure, nothing says that they have to say anything about what's going on, but just about every other band keeps their fans updated, while these guys just leave everyone in the dark about everything,
they don't owe you or me anything. they could go through the whole process and release an album without telling anyone and it shouldn't matter. i'm sorry they didnt constantly write messages that said "we're recording" "we're still recording" "we're recording diffrent songs" we're working on new songs"

[KidLightning]

What the heck does that mean?
FTW = For The Win

[irthesteve]

"They don't owe us anything?"

Odd. Every time I go to a show the headlining band on stage goes, "We owe it all to our fans, thank you guys so much for making our dreams a reality and buying our albums, and coming to our shows and stuff"...if you ask me, Brand New owes us EVERYTHING, especially for sticking around for this long in the dark.
don't be dumb, not in that way. of course they owe their fame and happiness and everything to their fans. but they don't need to keep us constantly updated, that has nothing to do with loving your fans.

[nfggc10]

"They don't owe us anything?"

Odd. Every time I go to a show the headlining band on stage goes, "We owe it all to our fans, thank you guys so much for making our dreams a reality and buying our albums, and coming to our shows and stuff"...if you ask me, Brand New owes us EVERYTHING, especially for sticking around for this long in the dark.
eh not really.....we all knew they were taking a long time to make sure everything was just right and i'm sure updating their website wasn't at the top of their priority list. this pretty much just confirms everything i've thought they've been doing.

[chcougar1]

I need a release date to be completely satisfied lol.


December 26, 2006 HAHA


Also, to who said they hadn't received their tickets yet...if you ordered through DucatKing, the tickets are being held at will call (at least for my show, and I know some others as well)

[Jared Kaufman]

No, I'd rather them learn to gain a work ethic and not need three years of sitting at home on their asses to write 16 songs.
Haha. They're human beings too bro; they're not some robots created to make music for our hearing pleasure. God forbid they have some serious personal problems since their last album and the time in between 'til now that might've sidetracked them.

[nfggc10]

No, I'd rather them learn to gain a work ethic and not need three years of sitting at home on their asses to write 16 songs.
they've been dealing with alot of personal issues outside of music like surgery and the death of close friend. make sure you know what you're talking about before you look like a dumbass.

[ishotthepilot]

blah blah blah

everyones just going to be disappointed anyway

[irthesteve]

I'm not asking for "constantly", I'm asking for more then once every three years...I don't think that's much to ask.
stop caring. they are gonna put out an awesome album and that is all that matters. they could go silent for 3 years and it shouldnt matter

[costello.]

I hope that by 13,14,15,16 songs, he actually meant 13,141,516 songs and just doesn't know how to use commas.
Then we would all be satisfied.

But really, I'm glad to hear them acknowledging the fact that there is going to be a record at all...

[chokeychicken]

has anyone actually received tickets to the Boston show, cuz im still waiting

i'm going to go ahead and assume you ordered through ducat king, and if so...you wont recieve them until about 7 days before the show. literally.

and if for whatever reason you dont get them, they have a number on their website that you can call, and they'll put them at will call for you. ducat is run by only two chicks, and they're both really nice

[weworemasks]

What the heck does that mean?

for the win.

[Jared Kaufman]

Fine. Then update their fans and say, "Sorry guys, we're going to be on a brief haitus because we've going through personal problems"...just like every other band would.
Don't get me wrong, I totally see your point, but meh, I can respect that people handle personal issues differently than others.

[nfggc10]

Haha. They're human beings too bro; they're not some robots created to make music for our hearing pleasure. God forbid they have some serious personal problems since their last album and the time in between 'til now that might've sidetracked them.
i'm sorry jared but apparently people in bands aren't allowed to have lives of their own that include non-music related events.....

[love_american_style]

i predict this album will suck.

[Jared Kaufman]

i predict this album will suck.
What is that prediction based on, Miss Cleo?

[nfggc10]

It's THEIR job to update me and HELP ME to learn what I'm talking about. It's their job, as a band, to keep me in the loop.

If they don't have the courtesy to let me know what's going on with them, then I don't have the courtesy to respect what's going on them.
i'm one of their biggest fans and i haven't felt slighted at all by their lack of updates. i respect them enough to know that letting fans know what's going on isn't a great priority. Just making/putting out a great album which they will do is all I want. People need to chill out....

[jfb392]

Excited.

[nfggc10]

i predict this album will suck.
why do people like you waste time by coming into threads about bands you aren't a fan of. just ignore the news and move on. posting negative shit about a band in a thread is pointless.

[larokr]

i'm going to go ahead and assume you ordered through ducat king, and if so...you wont recieve them until about 7 days before the show. literally.

and if for whatever reason you dont get them, they have a number on their website that you can call, and they'll put them at will call for you. ducat is run by only two chicks, and they're both really nice

7 days before the show? Not literally. My sister and I kept panicking over when the tickets would show up, we ordered through Ducatking for the Starland show, and we got them just about a month EXACTLY before the show (May 20th-ish). They were sent out May 16th. So, figure a month in advance. Let's just say... I'm never ordering from Ducatking again. Too much worrying.

[raycer]

It's THEIR job to update me and HELP ME to learn what I'm talking about. It's their job, as a band, to keep me in the loop.


funny, all this time i thought their job was to make music...

[nfggc10]

Where did I say that? Please show me a post where I stated they can't have other things going on in their lives.

What I DID state is that, as a band, they have responsibilities...one of the MAIN responsibilties of being in a popular band is keeping fans and devoted listeners in the loop and up-to-date with happenings. Bands create mailing lists, fan sites, and schedule interviews, reviews, etc. just to keep their fans in the know, while Brand New, on the other hand, makes absolutely no effort to even acknowledge the fact that people are waiting for them.

They can play basketball and watch movies every day for the rest of their lvies and never create an album again for all I care...as long as they let me know what's going on, and don't leave me hanging and expecting an album.
but everyone knew they WERE writing or recording an album. and no it's not their responsibility to keep fans in the know about what's going on. some bands do and some don't. if the label actually thought the lack of updates was a concern they would've forced them to say something. I dont see why you expect anything out of them outside of their music responsibilities.

[Jenn23]

has anyone actually received tickets to the Boston show, cuz im still waiting

If you ordered from Ducat King, you can sign in to your account and check the order status to see if they've been mailed yet. I just received my tickets for the Chicago and Detroit (July 20-21) shows this past Thursday.

[fedhed7]

Cool. I guess I don't seem to be as excited as everyone else is. In my opinion, Deja is and always will be their career-defining record, and nothing will be able to top it.

[permanent]

The dude they got to mix this produced Antenna by Cave In, so he is good in my book. I would still like a release date though, even if it is subject to change.

[nfggc10]

Cool. I guess I don't seem to be as excited as everyone else is. In my opinion, Deja is and always will be their career-defining record, and nothing will be able to top it.
that attitude is why fans in general keep bands from growing....people should go into every album without a "they'll never top _____ so this probably won't be that good compared to ____"

[nfggc10]

Do you honestly believe band's ONLY make music?.......This is a business.

That's like saying "Hmm.. I thought it was Pepsi's job to only make the soda".

Bands have fanbases/listeners just like products have consumers and if you honestly believe making music is the only responsibility a band has, then your perception of music is extremely skewed.

Bands wouldn't have websites, Publicists, cover artwork, tours, booking agents, press lists, mailing lists, merchandise, etc. if their job was to "only make music".
the band's only responsibility is to make music. all those "business" things are the label's repsonsibilities.

[fedhed7]

that attitude is why fans in general keep bands from growing....people should go into every album without a "they'll never top _____ so this probably won't be that good compared to ____"That's a completely false statement.

[nfggc10]

That's a completely false statement.
how is that false? you've already determined that no matter how good this record is, maybe better than deja, it's going to be a step down for them and they have no where else to go.

[nfggc10]

Hahahahahahaha...that's bullshit.

It's a label's job to provide the funds to a band and to distribute the album(s). It's the band and manager's job to take those funds and budget them however they see fit. A band's job is to write music, create a fanbase, secure a fanbase, support the music and fanbase, and to become a "product".
the kind of product you are describing is not what Brand New is. Jesse has said in numerous interviews that their main goal in writing music is to make something they are happy with and if fans like it then it's a bonus. Musicians don't make music to please other people. But if it happens along the way it's a great thing.

[Shatter_Glass]

Atlast....

[fedhed7]

how is that false? you've already determined that no matter how good this record is, maybe better than deja, it's going to be a step down for them and they have no where else to go.Is there really anywhere else they can go? Don't misunderstand me, I love Brand New, and I'm excited for the new album, but they're possibly the biggest band in this scene. Half of the members of this website have Deja as their favorite album of all time. Brand New isn't going to get any bigger.

[Shatter_Glass]

Hahahahahahaha...that's bullshit.

It's a label's job to provide the funds to a band and to distribute the album(s). It's the band and manager's job to take those funds and budget them however they see fit. It's also the band's job is to write music, create a fanbase, secure a fanbase, support the music and fanbase, and to become a "product".

Do you honestly believe a label is responsible for Brand New's website, merchandise, cover art, tours, etc.?...you've got to be shitting me. Like I said before, if you seriously believe a band's job is to just "make music", you have absolutely no grasp on music to begin with.

Wow. Nice touch....

[nfggc10]

Is there really anywhere else they can go? Don't misunderstand me, I love Brand New, and I'm excited for the new album, but they're possibly the biggest band in this scene. Half of the members of this website have Deja as their favorite album of all time. Brand New isn't going to get any bigger.
But look at the leap they took from YFW to Deja. There's always room to grow or what the band feels is a new direction. Most people will listen to this record with the thought that Deja will always be better but that's doing them a disservice. That's why I never pay attention to hype levels surrounding certain levels. I like going in with an open mind that it could be my new favorite record. Part of that attitude is why Deja is still my favorite record.

[fedhed7]

But look at the leap they took from YFW to Deja. There's always room to grow or what the band feels is a new direction. Most people will listen to this record with the thought that Deja will always be better but that's doing them a disservice. That's why I never pay attention to hype levels surrounding certain levels. I like going in with an open mind that it could be my new favorite record. Part of that attitude is why Deja is still my favorite record.
But you have to understand, in this scene, people either love, like, or hate Brand New. This album won't "introduce" anyone to Brand New. They're going to keep the same number of fans.

[nfggc10]

Then why did they sign to a label, have a manager, and an agent? Why would they hinder and ruin their possibilities of making money by having to recoup to a label? Why did they used to hand me flyers back in 2001 in my local mall and beg me to come to their garage/basement shows?

Jesse has also said, "we're not writing this album for the kids who already lsten to us, we're writing it for kids who have yet to listen to us"... seems to imply the exact opposite of what you stated.

I just find it hard to believe that the band would relatively drive their financial status into the ground strictly for a "bonus".
all those things, however, are results of making the music they want/think they can write. I never said they didn't want a fan base. I did say though that their reason for making music is not money or fame but because it's what they do best and for the love of it. Everything they've achieved is a result of that passion not the reason for doing it.

[SingleDoubt]

w00t.

[Jason Tate]

No, I'd rather them learn to gain a work ethic and not need three years of sitting at home on their asses to write 16 songs.

All I'm asking for is a mere little update update the album. This is the first time we've heard about it in three years... no title, no release date, no anything. I've been suppoerting this band since forever and they can't spare 30 seconds out of their day to give us an update more then once every 3 years on it?
Spoken likea true asshole that has no idea what the band has been through. What needed updates from the hospital too?

Some of you people are fucking out of your minds.

[nfggc10]

But you have to understand, in this scene, people either love, like, or hate Brand New. This album won't "introduce" anyone to Brand New. They're going to keep the same number of fans.
eh with major label distro and funds they'll probably grow but people in this scene are close-minded for the most part when listening to a record for the first time. So, in this scene, you're probably right about them not growing a whole lot.

[coreyo13]

nizzle > the rest

[nfggc10]

Spoken likea true asshole that has no idea what the band has been through. What needed updates from the hospital too?

Some of you people are fucking out of your minds.
Good to see you and Jared offering some reasoning for these people.

[Jason Tate]

Fine. Then update their fans and say, "Sorry guys, we're going to be on a brief haitus because we've going through personal problems"...just like every other band would.
They did, do you not read our fucking website?

[raycer]

Do you honestly believe band's ONLY make music?.......This is a business.

That's like saying "Hmm.. I thought it was Pepsi's job to only make the soda".

Bands have fanbases/listeners just like products have consumers and if you honestly believe making music is the only responsibility a band has, then your perception of music is extremely skewed.

Bands wouldn't have websites, publicists, cover artwork, tours, booking agents, press lists, mailing lists, merchandise, etc. if their job was to "only make music".

you're missing the point.

unfortunately, bands dont have to inform you with anything. you're not owed 'news' and 'updates.' all you are ever owed is the best music that the band can possibly make at the time, and it seems like they took their time and did just that.

sure, it's cool to know what's going on in their everyday lives, but its not something i care about in the longrun.

game 1: find the sarcasm in my post :)

[Jason Tate]

It's THEIR job to update me and HELP ME to learn what I'm talking about. It's their job, as a band, to keep me in the loop.

If they don't have the courtesy to let me know what's going on with them, then I don't have the courtesy to respect what's going on them.
Then don't, you're posting a shitload here, you obviously still care about something.

[Frank Giaramita]

Spoken likea true asshole that has no idea what the band has been through. What needed updates from the hospital too?

Some of you people are fucking out of your minds.
I disagree. If Andrew McMahon can do it, why can't they?

Personally, I can't respect something that I know nothing about either. If they would've let me known they were doing anything other than sitting on their asses for three years, than I wouldn't need to assume they were.

..and this is coming from a huge supporter of the band.

[nfggc10]

you're missing the point.

unfortunately, bands dont have to inform you with anything. you're not owed 'news' and 'updates.' all you are ever owed is the best music that the band can possibly make at the time, and it seems like they took their time and did just that.

sure, it's cool to know what's going on in their everyday lives, but its not something i care about in the longrun.
it's pretty much comparable to a movie star being expected to update their fans about what they're doing and why they haven't had a movie out lately. it's their own business so leave it that way.

[Jason Tate]

Your Clarity: you are an idiot. Seriously. Nothing else to say, you're killing me right now. Just shut up, cause you're so wrong on sooooo many levels.

[YourMusicSucks]

funny, all this time i thought their job was to make music...

Very slow workers =)

[Frank Giaramita]

Your Clarity: you are an idiot. Seriously. Nothing else to say, you're killing me right now. Just shut up, cause you're so wrong on sooooo many levels.
Personally, I can see both sides though.

Because I've always told Jared exactly what some people in here have said.

It's hard for me to sit around and wait and wait and wait. All I've ever wanted was an update really.

I, of course, know what they have gone through these past three years and Jared and I have discussed this matter heavily. But for some people who have no idea what they're going through, it's not their fault for being upset, because the band never informed anyone really.

[nfggc10]

Your Clarity: you are an idiot. Seriously. Nothing else to say, you're killing me right now. Just shut up, cause you're so wrong on sooooo many levels.
bands should be considered for a lack of courtesy/common sense

[Jason Tate]

I disagree. If Andrew McMahon can do it, why can't they?

Personally, I can't respect something that I know nothing about either. If they would've let me known they were doing anything other than sitting on their asses for three years, than I wouldn't need to assume they were.

..and this is coming from a huge supporter of the band.
Because all people are the same. Some handle situations differently. Its downright stupid of you to insist, and basically demand, a band to share the most personal things about themselves. Out of your minds people.

[exthuse]

I'm not familiar with Rich Costey, anyone know offhand what other albums he's produced / worked on?

EDIT: Quick google search shows he produced Absolution by Muse, anything else?
He mixed albums I believe, but not produced but I dunnaw.

[nfggc10]

Very slow workers =)
yeah how dare they get personal issues solved and take their time making sure everything on the record is just right..........

[chcougar1]

whoever said they arent using Ducatking again is crazy...their service charges are miniscule (sp?) compared to other ticket vendors and your tickets WILL show up!!

[Jason Tate]

Personally, I can see both sides though.

Because I've always told Jared exactly what some people in here have said.

It's hard for me to sit around and wait and wait and wait. All I've ever wanted was an update really.

I, of course, know what they have gone through thes epast three years and Jared and I have discussed this matter heavily. But for some people who have no idea what they're going through, it's not their fault for being upset, because the band never informed anyone really.
No, its the information age, and Ap basically that have made people think the should have blogs about everything these days. Its stupid. They are making an album - enough said. I'd rather have the cd in the end then "video updates" and other shit I never watch anyway.

[Frank Giaramita]

Because all people are the same. Some handle situations differently. Its downright stupid of you to insist, and basically demand, a band to share the most personal things about themselves. Out of your minds people.
But I mean, people didn't even know if the band was still together for about an entire year! Like, even if they could've just said, "We're going through a lot right now, we're not breaking up, we just have a lot of personal stuff going on", it would've just made this whole three year wait seem like butter, and it would've taken a mere 30 seconds of their day, while maintaining their privacy.

I don't know, I can't relate to it really because I live on Long Island and I hear a lot about the band from friends who talk to them and stuff... but I can sort of understand how some random kid in Utah could feel.

[SummerxStars]

Fuck you. I love these guys, they are my favorite band, but I don't think its cool to be so damn secretive. How hard is it for them to keep fans updated by saying, "Hey, we are making the album, we are having some problems which is why it is taking so long." This message should have been posted a little while ago. They haven't said shit about anything. Sure, nothing says that they have to say anything about what's going on, but just about every other band keeps their fans updated, while these guys just leave everyone in the dark about everything,

Brand New isn't the only band to have done this. Built to Spill pretty much disappeared for 5 years before coming out with anything and they barely kept anyone updated. Each band has their own way of dealing with things. Obviously some spend more time going on the internet and keeping people updated, and others don't. This shouldn't change the way you feel about their music.

[quitmyscene]

more about the ducatking tickets- the site said they shipped the tickets on the 6th. i haven't gotten them yet.. should i be worried? because i'm kind of obsessing over it? :unsure:

[nfggc10]

whoever said they arent using Ducatking again is crazy...their service charges are miniscule (sp?) compared to other ticket vendors and your tickets WILL show up!!
seriously, i was having that same conversation today about how much i love decatking instead of ticketmaster. I ordered some tickets from there for my brother and they charged $13 PER ticket for a convenience charge, that's insane.

[dukeboy1986]

Oh no! AP.net drama AGAIN? Who would have thunk it?

[Frank Giaramita]

Oh no! AP.net drama AGAIN? Who would have thunk it?
Eh, not really.

There's not really any malicious or harsh comments in here. Everyone is really just sharing their thoughts for the most part.

I'm still very excited for this album. I'm more curious than anything really.

[Jason Tate]

But I mean, people didn't even know if the band was still together for about an entire year! Like, even if they could've just said, "We're going through a lot right now, we're not breaking up, we just have a lot of personal stuff going on", it would've just made this whole three year wait seem like butter, and it would've taken a mere 30 seconds of their day, while maintaining their privacy.

I don't know, I can't relate to it really because I live on Long Island and I hear a lot about the band from friends who talk to them and stuff... but I can sort of understand how some random kid in Utah could feel.
People knew they were a band, they didn't break up, and that they were recording. What else was needed? People would of complained if they acted like livejournals, and they complain if they don't. I can see the comments "shut up and record" if they did the opposite.

[chroma23]

Oh no! AP.net drama AGAIN? Who would have thunk it?


This is a message board, where people have different opinions. Naturally these people argue what they beleive is right.


My two cents is that regaurdless, I'm just happy an album is coming. It has been long awaited, and hopefully will be well worth the wait. As for my opinion on the break, I think that they deserve every right to go back to living a normal life inbetween records.

[Frank Giaramita]

People knew they were a band, they didn't break up, and that they were recording. What else was needed? People would of complained if they acted like livejournals, and they complain if they don't. I can see the comments "shut up and record" if they did the opposite.
Yeah, but like I've told you before through IM... I sometimes wish the band wasn't so secretive about everything. Like, it sometimes seems as if they make a concious effort to keep people in in the dark, which is something that I have yet to understand.

It's one thing to not update people, but it's another to try and purposely hold information from them. I don't know, it's just a very weird scenario I guess.

I'm very tired of the politics in music, so I couldn't really care less about all of this at the moment. I'm just pretty much trying to see things from both sides.

[chokeychicken]

more about the ducatking tickets- the site said they shipped the tickets on the 6th. i haven't gotten them yet.. should i be worried? because i'm kind of obsessing over it? :unsure:

no, you'll be fine. they'll probably get there on monday. ducat ships using the USPS, which is a mistake.

and if not, they'll set them u pfor you at will call. no worries.

ducat is gerat for cheap tickets, but they blow for cancelling orders. i bought tickets to a few brand new shows in/around NJ (the webster hall show, the webster theatre show, starland, etc) and was planning on taking this huge brand new road trip, and they cancelled most of my orders. cool!

[Nate_RAWKS]

I'm happy!

[Nick Lopez]

People knew they were a band, they didn't break up, and that they were recording. What else was needed? People would of complained if they acted like livejournals, and they complain if they don't. I can see the comments "shut up and record" if they did the opposite. I have spent the last few months explaining again and again and again that Brand New was still a band. The majority of my high school and friends from other high schools thought they had broken up until I had shown them otherwise.

[quitmyscene]

no, you'll be fine. they'll probably get there on monday. ducat ships using the USPS, which is a mistake.

and if not, they'll set them u pfor you at will call. no worries.

ducat is gerat for cheap tickets, but they blow for cancelling orders. i bought tickets to a few brand new shows in/around NJ (the webster hall show, the webster theatre show, starland, etc) and was planning on taking this huge brand new road trip, and they cancelled most of my orders. cool!
alright thanks. i've ordered from there before because it's nice and cheap, but sometimes they shipped within a couple of days of ordering, sometimes it took a couple of months. but after shipping, i couldn't remember how long it usually takes to get here.

that sucks though. do you know why they cancelled them?

[trjlangdon]

Rich Costey is great.

[sweetforever]

:thumbup:

If they have 13,14,15, or even 16 songs, that would make up for the long wait. at least for me it would.

[SummerxStars]

:thumbup:

If they have 13,14,15, or even 16 songs, that would make up for the long wait. at least for me it would.

agreed

[Base3Studd]

i can't wait for the record, but i can't believe how much some people defend this bands actions, when they would crucify other bands for doing the same stuff....i dunno just seems stupid. anyways, i am stoked for the album.

[mybreakingpoint]

keeping my fingers crossed for 16 tracks :D

he seems much more down-to-earth in this. in the interview AP did with them several months ago, he sounded rather arrogant to me. i don't know. but i'm definitely excited about this.

[raycer]

hah. whats funny is that saosin hasnt done anything for a year or so, but gives us updates, and people are sick of them.

you cant win ;)

[thisisadisaster]

so basically, knowing i might have a new brand new album by the end of the year made my day.

:D

[Colin Farrell]

this album is going to be amazing

[chcougar1]

more about the ducatking tickets- the site said they shipped the tickets on the 6th. i haven't gotten them yet.. should i be worried? because i'm kind of obsessing over it? :unsure:


You will probably get your tickets monday then

[ForsakenProdigy]

Who cares if they wait 1 or 10 years, there are tons of great bands out there! Brand New released only two damn albums. theyre not god! I like them and all, and yeah I even use them in my icon, but enough, Let it go already. They have no obligation to anyone.

[Colin Farrell]

Because all people are the same. Some handle situations differently. Its downright stupid of you to insist, and basically demand, a band to share the most personal things about themselves. Out of your minds people.
i agree wiht frank, tate, no nee dfor you to cuss that kid out, nothing he said was that outrageous, i know exactly what he means, and I also am a huge fan of this band. im not saying jesse has to go pete wentz on us and maintain 192327437034 different blogs, but a little update would be nice. chill, bro.

[3milesdown]

i'm not as big of a fan of brand new as most people here (probably because i like yfw better than deja) but honestly just one update would be fine. no ones asking for a live journal of their day or what theyre thinking, but jsut an update would show that they'd care. only 1 update that says, "sorry we're taking a long time, we have some shit we're goin through". i mean no they don't owe us anything as a "band" to update or anything, but it would be really nice of them to just say something like that cuz it's been a really long time.

[ethicka]

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:al7zefek8gf2~T4
clever...

in other news: can't wait for this album. they had a lot of work to do to make it better than deja entendu and it sounds like it won't dissapoint.

[ethicka]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.
thank you!

[PunkDrums182]

I'm pysched for this.

[lilhockeybro]

i think their leaked demos were even amazing.
'specially track two and three

awesome.
i am pretty sure this is going to be a great, great album.

[Brooklyn Kid]

I'm getting so sick of this band.


'getting' sick of them? you are a patient soul...

[leftstranded]

If it's 15 or 16 songs I might forgive them. :P

I liked most of the leaked demos, this perfectionist attitude is a little unnecessary.

and it's people like you that if the half assed the album that would say this album sucks and they should have spent more time with it.

i personally am glad to see that they care so much about the songs that they spent this much time. i've made sure i stayed away from the leaked demo's just so that i can be impressed with the record and not have any contrived notions. this is great news

[theacademyis]

jesse probably pushed for rich because of MEW

[leftstranded]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.

couldn't have said it better myself

[1Roth4]

there was so much of a transition between Your Favorite Weapon and Deja, that I think this album should offer the same sort of trasition in to Brand New's new phase. And I don't think i'm the only one who's excited to hear where they've decided to take this album.

i'm sure it won't disappoint

[leftstranded]

Do you honestly believe band's ONLY make music?.......This is a business.

That's like saying "Hmm.. I thought it was Pepsi's job to only make the soda".

Bands have fanbases/listeners just like products have consumers and if you honestly believe making music is the only responsibility a band has, then your perception of music is extremely skewed.

Bands wouldn't have websites, publicists, cover artwork, tours, booking agents, press lists, mailing lists, merchandise, etc. if their job was to "only make music".

i had to post on the rediculousness of that statement

pepsi's job is to make soda. you retard

[Ibanezgsr200]

brand new is lucky they make music with so much staying power so i can wait out the 3 or 4 yrs between albums without getting sick of them

[lassise]

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:al7zefek8gf2~T4

wow he's done a bajillion cds

[EvilButters]

Sweet. I honestly wasn't expecting this album to come out until next year. I highly look forward to this.

[nivek87]

brand new is lucky they make music with so much staying power so i can wait out the 3 or 4 yrs between albums without getting sick of them

i hear you. everyone who says they lost interest in the upcoming release is lying to themselves, thats why this thread has over 100 comments.

[butt_code]

fucking awesome cant wait

[S84newt2000]

i honestly don't care how long i have to wait for this...i'm glad they're actually taking their time to make the best record they can instead of rushing shit to please all the non patient douchebags

[larokr]

whoever said they arent using Ducatking again is crazy...their service charges are miniscule (sp?) compared to other ticket vendors and your tickets WILL show up!!

Yes, that was me. Sure, ticketmaster's service charges might be more, but ticketmaster always sends out the tickets immediately, rather than waiting a month before the show. I barely order tickets online anyway, I get worried they will get lost in the mail or damaged (both have happened to me before) and get worried they won't come because I'm paranoid half the time. I usually drive to the venues myself and buy them at the box office. Much cheaper. Or just go to my local FYE and buy the tickets at the ticketmaster booth there.

And, for me, ticketmaster tickets come about less than 3 days after they say they shipped. They have a better method of saying "tickets are being printed" and "tickets were shipped" because, when ticketmaster says tickets have been shipped, that doesn't mean "tickets were printed but we're not sending them until whenever we feel like it" like ducatking did. They said they shipped may 9th but didn't actually SHIP them until may 16th. I'd rather pay more to make myself feel more confident that the tickets will arrive rather than pay and get worried about them. Just my preference. I'm not a big fan of online ticket ordering anyway, but I knew Brand New was going to sell out quickly and knew ordering them online would be the best way to get them.

[larokr]

more about the ducatking tickets- the site said they shipped the tickets on the 6th. i haven't gotten them yet.. should i be worried? because i'm kind of obsessing over it? :unsure:

The Ducatking website is wrong about the shipping dates. That's when they printed your tickets. Figure they'll send them out a week after they shipped them. That's what happened with me. It really got me aggravated, but whatever.

[unwritten]

I have been patient this long, I guess I can wait longer.

[OveriseFan]

I still love this band.

[*crying stars*]

this is going to be awesome.

[TotallyMandy]

This thread is nuts.

I'm really excited for the new album.



Also
I already have my tickets for Starland [through ducatking]. They came really quickly.
No TLA ones though...but I'm not all that worried about it.

[johnarc]

I'm getting so sick of this band.
agreed.

[atticusfinch]

I honestly can't wait to see them on the 24th. Srsly.

[yanggoh]

i can't believe i won't be seeing them live this summer.

[Say Hello 87]

how long does it usually take to mix a record


Im no pro at this but from many previous albums that I watched from day 1 when the artist say they are finished tracking the record completely and that they have signed a mixer then what I think usually happens is it takes around 1-2 months for the record to be completely mixed and mastered in which the artist comes along as well and picks which songs will officially be on the record. During this period as well the artist usually takes the band promotion pictures and they start rehearsing a few of the songs from the record to play on their upcoming tour which for Brand New will be this summer obviously. I would honestly say the earliest we will get our hands on this record will be August...so probably inbetween August and September well get the record..

As for the post on what Brian said, all you people who say you have lost interest because they took too long or whatever need to seriously rethink yourselves.....take a look at it this way....most artists are forced to finish a record they are working on which means that they arent completely satisfied with it....actually i read a interview with vinnie on ap.net a few months ago and he said that he wasnt even completely satisfied with deja.....so for BN to take this mucunless they are some inredibly multi-platinum artist. And for BN to take the time to make the record that they are completely happy with i say kudos to them...I would much rather wait a few years to hear what they think is their best work ever then have them throw out a shitty record (as if thats possible for BN)...and for me not to enjoy it...sure it takes time but atleast it will be amazing....I dont even have to hear any demos or anything like that, i just know that if they like what they made I will love it twice as much as they do...so sorry of it takes them time to make great music....nothing good ever comes quickly...atleast thats what i think.

[fluke182]

if 16 songs make this cd, that would be quite an accomplishment
but it would make up for this long ass wait
this gets me somewhat excited, i suppose
Gatsby's has released 31 songs on 3 albums in the same time, and they have another album coming out before Brand New has another one. I've moved on to bands that make music.

[gobblox is...]

i have two tix for the HOB in chicago that i am trying to get rid of

I don't want to make a profit, I just can't go because I have a previous engagement, someone please take these off my hands... it's too depressing to bare with any more

[Say Hello 87]

Spoken likea true asshole that has no idea what the band has been through. What needed updates from the hospital too?

Some of you people are fucking out of your minds.

I agree, why the hell is everyone angry at them for taking a few years to make a record?!?!? Honestly......I love this band so much, and so if they tell me they are truly happy with what theye making who cares how long it takes them to make it??? you know it will end up coming out eventually so why the hell worry about what updates they give you..plus, no one knows except for the band themselves whats really been going on...i dont know either, but im guessing that since they posted this they have been recording and re-recording everything until its perfect...so sorry if you would rather have them go online every night and day and tell you...oh by the way we finished the chorus to a song today...woohoo....atleast now we know the record is done and will be out shortly.....that should be enough news to tide everyone over for another year id say....god some of you guys need to learn some patience!!!!!

[TheBaroness]

i've pretty much forgotten about them, at least until the album comes in when i will no doubt be stoked once more.

if you guys think this is bad though, try being a fan of the jealous sound. those guys took about 2.5 years to go from an ep to a full length, and it's been almost 3 years since their last release. the wait for their new one is killing me. some bands just take a long time. as long as the release is good it doesn't really matter.

[Jamie Pham]

finally

[Rouse Diaz]

to all of those who say that they didn't keep us updated WHATSOEVER, you are wrong because from the posts on their websites they made it obvious that they were having trouble writing. I remember them saying something about listening to the voicemail messages that jesse had left himself in which he's yelling melodies into the phone that come to him while driving in his car and what not...

their updates havent been as frequent and convenient as other bands recently (tbs), but they're gonna make up for it by delivering us goosebumps (again)

[thesego211]

here's what i don't understand: they are signed to a major now right? why is their label allowing them to take so much time with this? their label doesn't make money with brand new in the studio, they just spend money. i just don't understand why brand new has been allowed so much time with this. can you believe that bands used to put out two albums a year? bands like zeppelin, cream, grand funk, etc... could you imagine that today?

[AbsentTruth]

sweet

[surfwaxsideshow]

Quality over quantity 100% of the time.

Not every band is the beatles...if brand new put out 31 songs in three years I'm relatively sure a lot of them would suck.

Anyone who would take a 16 track album with filler songs over a 12 track album with no filler is a moron.

[CircaEnder]

I'm getting so sick of this band.
dude... if you give me your adress... i PROMISE i will come to where you live and beat your ass... i have the time the money and that pointless of a life.... im not kidding one bit... what a fucking ass..

Jesse has more talent in one cell of his body than 99% of all the bands you listen to ( and no... i dont care what bands they are)

[CircaEnder]

Okay... you guys have to understand... i bet jesse has written 1000 songs since deja entendu ( my fav cd ever) and they were probably all amazing.... but jesse doesnt want amazing... he wants something better than deja entendu...

[CircaEnder]

Gatsby's has released 31 songs on 3 albums in the same time, and they have another album coming out before Brand New has another one. I've moved on to bands that make music.
a band's whos lyrics are garbage... awesome... forgive durden owned them 100 times over.

and im not saying i dont like Gatsby's they are good tallented band... but comparing them to brand new... thats fucking stupid. you cant say just because they are putting out more music they are better.. brand new is something so far above Gatsbys..... To anyone who really gets brand new knows what i mean.. maybe i just love brand new too much..but to me.. they could take another 2 years.. and id know when the cd came out..it would be worth the wait..

be pissed that they took 3 years to make a cd... but when it comes out you will know why.

[Scuba Chris]

Lots of posts, not going to reply specifically to any of them, just a couple of my opinions:

I am going to agree with JT and JK. First and foremost, they are people. And the way they choose to deal with their own personal issues is their own deal. They have no real responsibility to share their personal issues with fans of their music. If you were their friends or family then yes, you should know what's up but as a fan, you just have to suck it up.

Your Clarity, you are an idiot, I am sure if the guys in BN knew you, they wouldn't want you as a fan.

In response to those who said they can't top DE, well maybe. But even if they make the perfect album there is always room to grow and evolve as a band. You might not like this new album as much as Deja Entendu but I might love it even more. The only good example of this I can think of is when Midtown released Forget What You Know. One of my good friends is obsessed with Midtown but was disappointed with the album feeling it was their worst release. I, on the other hand, found it to be their best release by leaps and bounds.

And to echo JK's sentiments. When you make music, you have to be a perfectionist and take your time. You want the music to convey the emotions you were feeling as you were writing the song and if it doesn't you keep working at it. I for one, applaud Brand New as they take their time to make an excellent record.

[CircaEnder]

Lots of posts, not going to reply specifically to any of them, just a couple of my opinions:

I am going to agree with JT and JK. First and foremost, they are people. And the way they choose to deal with their own personal issues is their own deal. They have no real responsibility to share their personal issues with fans of their music. If you were their friends or family then yes, you should know what's up but as a fan, you just have to suck it up.

Your Clarity, you are an idiot, I am sure if the guys in BN knew you, they wouldn't want you as a fan.

In response to those who said they can't top DE, well maybe. But even if they make the perfect album there is always room to grow and evolve as a band. You might not like this new album as much as Deja Entendu but I might love it even more. The only good example of this I can think of is when Midtown released Forget What You Know. One of my good friends is obsessed with Midtown but was disappointed with the album feeling it was their worst release. I, on the other hand, found it to be their best release by leaps and bounds.

And to echo JK's sentiments. When you make music, you have to be a perfectionist and take your time. You want the music to convey the emotions you were feeling as you were writing the song and if it doesn't you keep working at it. I for one, applaud Brand New as they take their time to make an excellent record.

wholy shit.... not everyone on this site is a complete fucking idiot.. scuba chris... you are my new best friend. haha.

[terrrrrible]

I just have to say this, and I too skipped a lot of the replies, and it's mostly for the people bashing Brand New and saying deja entendu and the demos sucked, etc etc. In my eyes, one of the things that make Brand New so great was the change they made going from Your Favorite Weapon to Deja Entendu. When I first heard some of the DE demos, I was like what the hell is this, this isn't Brand New. I went out and bought the record and started listening to it, and realised hey, this is pretty good. Now, they could have gone out a written another Your Favorite Weapon, and I'm sure some people would have been fine with that, and some people would have been pretty bored with it, blah blah blah. But they didn't, and they went and put out that album, which for me is pretty much my favorite CD of all time, maybe because of the time that it came out and what was going on in my life and for how goddamn long it didn't leave my car that makes it so much better. Even now I can still listen to the CD all the way through and really enjoy it and think wow this is a great record. I can think of so many bands who have two CDs that sound exactly the same and they could have just lumped all the songs onto one CD. Yeah sure, maybe you like their sound and don't mind them not changing it, but after awhile those CDs get kind of boring. At first when I heard that Brand New had signed to a major, I was totally bummed because of other bands who took that route, and their debut for the label bombed (The Ataris, Thursday). But then I though, this is Brand New, and after what they did with Deja Entendu, I don't think they can make a bad album.

I'd really like to know what some of you kids listen to that you think Brand New are terrible, because most bands coming around these days really really suck.

[RockVocalPower]

At first when I heard that Brand New had signed to a major, I was totally bummed because of other bands who took that route, and their debut for the label bombed (The Ataris, Thursday).

Um...So Long, Astoria went gold and it's pretty close to platinum status.

[terrrrrible]

Um...So Long, Astoria went gold and it's pretty close to platinum status.

In my eyes, it bombed. It just didn't feel like something that Roe would write and the album just didn't sit right with me. Too much of a total 180 from their first couple of CDs.

[Scuba Chris]

wholy shit.... not everyone on this site is a complete fucking idiot.. scuba chris... you are my new best friend. haha.

:dancedude

[BrandNizzle]

Call me crazy, but for some reason I remember seeing posts on their website and message boards about their personal issues....and that the album was going to take a little longer to finish than expected. I sat here and literally read every single post so far on this thread, and I honestly have no idea how everyone can bitch THIS much about "not being updated" and being "kept in the dark."

Even though they have given very brief and uninformative updates in the past year, that's all anyone really needs. I don't need a band updating me every single day about how many drum tracks they recorded that day. It's so much more satisfying not knowing a damn thing about an album, waiting for it to come out, and being blown away by it in the end. Not to mention, that also keeps the interest factor alive...I mean, look how many people are responding in this thread. Obviously you fuckers still care about what this band does, so don't give us this little "I'm soooo sick of this band" bullshit. You know you'll have your copy of the album pre-ordered the day it's available.

Suspense is a good thing.

[Zeran]

Below is a long-awaited update from Brand New (http://www.brandnewrock.com):
Our main focus for these past 10 months was to make the best record we possibly couldfor us and you. With this in mind there was always a part we felt we could play better, or a part we felt could be improved. This tedious process explains why it has taken so long. We have all lost our minds on numerous occasions, and to be honeststill haven't found them.

We will finally be entering the mixing process on Monday June 12.
Rich Costey has signed on to man the faders and we all couldn't be happier!
The record should be outyou knowsometime this year..
There will be 13, 14, 15, or 16 songs being mixed
And 12, 13, 14, 15, or 16 of those songs will make it on the record.

We are blown away by the response the tour has received and hopefully will be testing out a few new songs on the road.

We, again, are sorry we have not kept you guys in the loop. We feel now that we are truly happy with our record, and we will notify you of any SIGNIFICANT news in the future.

We can't say it enough:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

.brian / brand new

FINALLY

[swizzle]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Would you rather have had them say a year ago: "Ok, we think our record sucks, but you're impatient so we're going to go into mixing in 5 days so we can release something we're not happy with (which you will probably hate and bash us more) just to appease you all and get it out this year"? Obviously they've given their blood, sweat and tears to make the best record they could and knew they were capable of making.

With that being said, I cannot wait for this.
its impossible for this band to release anything that sucks

[love_american_style]

why do people like you waste time by coming into threads about bands you aren't a fan of. just ignore the news and move on. posting negative shit about a band in a thread is pointless.

what makes you think im not a fan of this band? i loved their first two albums but the long awaited hype and all the talk about it just gives me a bad vibe that their new album is gonna be a major let down....although i hope it wont be, because im probably gonna end up bying it.