Roethlisberger crashes motorcycle

[LeftWideOpen]

Apparently the injuries arent life-threatning and he's awake and alert.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

"Witnesses told authorities that the player's motorcycle collided with a car near a downtown intersection and that Roethlisberger's head hit the windshield and was bleeding. Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. In previous interviews, Roethlisberger has said that he does not like wearing a helmet while wearing a motorcycle."

[beefhung]

chunky soup

[Caleb Cattivera]

Apparently the injuries arent life-threatning and he's awake and alert.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

"Witnesses told authorities that the player's motorcycle collided with a car near a downtown intersection and that Roethlisberger's head hit the windshield and was bleeding. Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. In previous interviews, Roethlisberger has said that he does not like wearing a helmet while wearing a motorcycle."

fucking retard. that's what he gets for not wearing a helmet. i wouldnt care if his injuries were life threatening, it'd be his own damn fault.

[Scuba Chris]

fucking retard. that's what he gets for not wearing a helmet. i wouldnt care if his injuries were life threatening, it'd be his own damn fault.

come on Caleb, yeah it's dumb he doesn't wear a helmet, but don't wish life-threatening injuries on a guy.

[Rock]

i was hoping this was a joke. riding a motorcycle is already dangerous enough, but not wearing a helmet is REALLY dumb. you're just kind of asking for it.

[Caleb Cattivera]

come on Caleb, yeah it's dumb he doesn't wear a helmet, but don't wish life-threatening injuries on a guy.

i didnt wish them upon him anywhere did i? no i just said if they were life threatening i wouldnt care.

[leftstranded]

and this reminds me of what kellen winslow did for the browns. when you are making that much money and you mean that much to a team you have to be smarter than that

[sweethypocrisy]

i agree with caleb. what a god damn retard.

[Caleb Cattivera]

i agree with caleb. what a god damn retard.

exactly. im not wishing anything upon anyone, but if you're going to be dumb enough to not wear a helmet, then he deserves what happens to him, if he had a helmet on, he'd still be injured but not as bad and id wish him the best.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Speaking as a die hard Steelers, this is the worst news I've heard in such a long time in Sports. What a crushing blow. I can guarentee everyone that Pittsburgh is in turmoil.

I hope everything works out okay, and I hope to see a full recovery.

Big Ben is in Pittsburgh's Thoughts and Prayers.

[sweethypocrisy]

Speaking as a die hard Steelers, this is the worst news I've heard in such a long time in Sports. What a crushing blow. I can guarentee everyone that Pittsburgh is in turmoil.

I hope everything works out okay, and I hope to see a full recovery.

Big Ben is in Pittsburgh's Thoughts and Prayers.
speaking as another steelers fan, hes a fucking idiot, and deserves whatever happens to him.

[Vincewithouthee]

Speaking as a die hard Steelers, this is the worst news I've heard in such a long time in Sports. What a crushing blow. I can guarentee everyone that Pittsburgh is in turmoil.

I hope everything works out okay, and I hope to see a full recovery.

Big Ben is in Pittsburgh's Thoughts and Prayers.
Yeah, I agree. I feel really bad and all....

But, there's still a lot of fault on Ben's part. He didn't wear a helmet on a motorcycle. Honestly, that's so stupid. Motorcycles are already extremely dangerous, but he rides it without a helmet. I knew something like this would happen sometime.

It's still terrible though. I hope he's okay.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

speaking as another steelers fan, hes a fucking idiot, and deserves whatever happens to him.

Dude, don't come to a Roethisberger thread if you are just gonna sit here and bash him like that. Sure, it's a terrible decision but his career is on the line, and possibly his life. Nobody deserves to die. Don't be a hardass.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Yeah, I agree. I feel really bad and all....

But, there's still a lot of fault on Ben's part. He didn't wear a helmet on a motorcycle. Honestly, that's so stupid. Motorcycles are already extremely dangerous, but he rides it without a helmet. I knew something like this would happen sometime.

It's still terrible though. I hope he's okay.

Everyone should wear a helmet, he thinks he can't be touched sometimes. This town as well as the rest of the football league were excited to see how Big Ben's career would pan out. He's already won a Super Bowl at his age, this would be such a critical blow to the NFL to see this guy go down. I really hope he get through this and get on his feet again.

[Caleb Cattivera]

Dude, don't come to a Roethisberger thread if you are just gonna sit here and bash him like that. Sure, it's a terrible decision but his career is on the line, and possibly his life. Nobody deserves to die. Don't be a hardass.

his own fault.

[Vincewithouthee]

Everyone should wear a helmet, he thinks he can't be touched sometimes. This town as well as the rest of the football league were excited to see how Big Ben's career would pan out. He's already won a Super Bowl at his age, this would be such a critical blow to the NFL to see this guy go down. I really hope he get through this and get on his feet again.

I hope he gets out okay.

The doctors said he's getting surgery for injuries. They're not saying what exactly he's getting surgery on, but that the injuries are serious.

I hope all goes well.

[aminorthreat55]

Apparently the injuries arent life-threatning and he's awake and alert.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

"Witnesses told authorities that the player's motorcycle collided with a car near a downtown intersection and that Roethlisberger's head hit the windshield and was bleeding. Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. In previous interviews, Roethlisberger has said that he does not like wearing a helmet while wearing a motorcycle."
Okay I don't feel bad at all if he wasn't wearing a helmet.

Moron.

[Split2nd]

Come on Ben... you know better than that... really really dumb move, hopefully he's alright.

[Split2nd]

He still would've been hurt like a motherfucker if he had a helmet on, so stop acting as if he was driving drunk or something. Jesus Christ

[Spicoli hey bud]

Speaking as a die hard Steelers, this is the worst news I've heard in such a long time in Sports. What a crushing blow. I can guarentee everyone that Pittsburgh is in turmoil.

I hope everything works out okay, and I hope to see a full recovery.

Big Ben is in Pittsburgh's Thoughts and Prayers.
as a die hard steelers fan, you should have petetioned to have your teams backbone to wear a fucking helmet. jeez, how the fuck do you not see warning signs coming as this has happened way to often in the past. the guy has everything going for him and he refuses to put his safety first after watching others go down the same way in the past. his own fault. sad, yes. unfortunate, yes. But it's his fault.

[LeftWideOpen]

He still would've been hurt like a motherfucker if he had a helmet on, so stop acting as if he was driving drunk or something. Jesus Christ

seriously ...his injuries go beyond his head. If his ribs are broken and his lung is collapsed, he deserves it because he isnt wearing a helmet?

some of you people, including staff members, are completely fucking heartless on this one. hopefully the man makes a full recovery because he's a human being who made a mistake but didn't put anyone else's life in danger by not wearing a helmet. Wearing a helmet wouldnt have kept him from crashing.

[Vincewithouthee]

seriously ...his injuries go beyond his head. If his ribs are broken and his lung is collapsed, he deserves it because he isnt wearing a helmet?

some of you people, including staff members, are completely fucking heartless on this one. hopefully the man makes a full recovery because he's a human being who made a mistake but didn't put anyone else's life in danger by not wearing a helmet. Wearing a helmet wouldnt have kept him from crashing.

Yeah exactly. This shit pisses me off.

You should see what they're saying in the general forum about this. It's just as bad.

But yes, I hope all goes well for him.

[Jesse2]

seriously ...his injuries go beyond his head. If his ribs are broken and his lung is collapsed, he deserves it because he isnt wearing a helmet?

some of you people, including staff members, are completely fucking heartless on this one. hopefully the man makes a full recovery because he's a human being who made a mistake but didn't put anyone else's life in danger by not wearing a helmet. Wearing a helmet wouldnt have kept him from crashing.

amen

[sweethypocrisy]

let me rephrase, if he has any head injuries, i feel no sympathy because he shouldve been wearing a helmet.

[LeftWideOpen]

the latest news is that he's in serious, but stable, condition and he's currently in surgery. The extent of the injuries is still unknown.

[Split2nd]

let me rephrase, if he has any head injuries, i feel no sympathy because he shouldve been wearing a helmet.
A helmet may have helped but it wouldn't have stopped him from getting head injuries completely.

[kshtoinks12]

just like kellen before him

[Split2nd]

Wow... people are actually busting up about this... I thought splitsecond was irritating before but now I see he's really a fucking douche bag. I'm sure he'd love people laughing at him if he would get into a headon collision while messing with his iPod in the car or while talking on his cell phone

[sweethypocrisy]

Wow... people are actually busting up about this... I thought splitsecond was irritating before but now I see he's really a fucking douche bag. I'm sure he'd love people laughing at him if he would get into a headon collision while messing with his iPod in the car or while talking on his cell phone
i cant believe anyone actually finds this funny at all. im pissed about this, even though my comments might lead you to think otherwise.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Wow... people are actually busting up about this... I thought splitsecond was irritating before but now I see he's really a fucking douche bag. I'm sure he'd love people laughing at him if he would get into a headon collision while messing with his iPod in the car or while talking on his cell phone


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HE LOST HIS IPOD. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

You know splisecond should of been more careful and watched out for his "warning signs". He'll learn to be more careful next time. It's very unfortunate, but but he'll learn real fast.

[DownAndOut]

I just think it's humorous because it's the Steelers that is happened to. Finally getting put in their place. That's it. I'm not wishing the guy to die or anything. And everything I've heard it's been head injuries, which well, a helmet would have stopped that. And he was warned numerous times by numerous people to wear a helmet. So any head injuries is his own stupid mistake.

It's just funny because out of the whole NFL, all the players, it happens to be him. Everyone laughing at it is taking it from the prospect of the name. No one wished this on him, but if this happened to your least favorite player or who you think is the biggest tool in the league, wouldn't you kinda find some humor in it too?

[sweethypocrisy]

I just think it's humorous because it's the Steelers that is happened to. Finally getting put in their place. That's it. I'm not wishing the guy to die or anything. And everything I've heard it's been head injuries, which well, a helmet would have stopped that. And he was warned numerous times by numerous people to wear a helmet. So any head injuries is his own stupid mistake.

It's just funny because out of the whole NFL, all the players, it happens to be him. Everyone laughing at it is taking it from the prospect of the name. No one wished this on him, but if this happened to your least favorite player or who you think is the biggest tool in the league, wouldn't you kinda find some humor in it too?
if it happened to one of the MANY FUCKING PLAYERS who are criminals and still play and make millions, yes, i would think it was funny.

[DownAndOut]

if it happened to one of the MANY FUCKING PLAYERS who are criminals and still play and make millions, yes, i would think it was funny.
Then why are you arguing? Since apparently if it was reverse situation you would laugh, why sit here and argue for our little giggle over the situation? Or is it just because he isn't a "criminal"? Which by the way makes no sense to me because apparently everyone is supposed to be perfect in the NFL? And I don't get how that's relevant to the argument because either way you'd be laughing at someone.

[FondestMemory]

latest report says: broken jaw. broken nasal cavity. 9 inch laceration on the back of his head and some knee damage.

early talk is that he dodged a bullet and nothing serious is coming of it. recovery time right now is estimated at seven weeks. but, they're not quite sure how serious the damage to the knee is.

i was dreading a thread on this as soon as i heard about it. and it's basically what i expected.

i wish him well and hope he recovers fully. but i am a little pissed. especially because after winslow's accident last year, cowher sat down with him and asked him to start wearing a helmet.

all in all though, this could have been much worse.

[Frank Giaramita]

It's not against the law in some state's to not wear helmets on motocycles...not saying he's any smartr for not doing so, but just saying our government is equally as stupid as he is apparently.

[iamjeremywillia]

i think that when you are a professional athlete, and your body represents your source of income....you don't ride a motorcycle until you are retired. i think it comes into the whole "im invincible" mantra that many professional athletes believe. i really hope he is ok. im sure the city of pittsburgh is GOING NUTS. Ben is Pittsburghs' favorite son.

[sweethypocrisy]

Then why are you arguing? Since apparently if it was reverse situation you would laugh, why sit here and argue for our little giggle over the situation? Or is it just because he isn't a "criminal"? Which by the way makes no sense to me because apparently everyone is supposed to be perfect in the NFL? And I don't get how that's relevant to the argument because either way you'd be laughing at someone.
i think its terrible that some people think its hilarious. the fact that you said "little giggle" makes me want to stab you. im talking about the known criminals that get off because they are famous. (not just in the nfl, obviously).

[Trainsaw]

Okay I don't feel bad at all if he wasn't wearing a helmet.

Moron.
ditto

[smokedsanity]

Then why are you arguing? Since apparently if it was reverse situation you would laugh, why sit here and argue for our little giggle over the situation? Or is it just because he isn't a "criminal"? Which by the way makes no sense to me because apparently everyone is supposed to be perfect in the NFL? And I don't get how that's relevant to the argument because either way you'd be laughing at someone.


I'm sorry, but I do not understand how someone can feel any degree of joy or have a "little giggle" over someone else's misfortune. Whether or not he was wearing a helmet (One magazine says he wasn't, another said that it wasn't clear) does not matter. Yes, you can wave your finger at him and call him a dumbass, but this severe harshness is uncalled for. Some of you make me sick.

[itsjdiggity]

Steelers hate is getting ridiculous

[Fullcollapse3k]

It's not against the law in some state's to not wear helmets on motocycles...not saying he's any smartr for not doing so, but just saying our government is equally as stupid as he is apparently.

I completely agree with this. For as moronic as he is to not wear a helmet, the government is equally as stupid to not require riders to protect their heads, seeing as if they wreck, their head's gonna get rocked.

[DownAndOut]

i think its terrible that some people think its hilarious. the fact that you said "little giggle" makes me want to stab you. im talking about the known criminals that get off because they are famous. (not just in the nfl, obviously).
Interesting threat on me there.

Criminal thing still out in left field on this, but hey, got you to admit you would find it funny too. Just depends on who it is I guess. Anyone who is stupid enough to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, where your career depends on you physically, after many warnings from well everyone, but you still don't do it, not wishing you to get in an accident, but hey it could happen, and if it does, can't help but have a "little giggle".

But also I've learned that apparently you can't totally comprehend what I am saying in that I don't wish this to happen to him and I hope he's fine.

[DownAndOut]

I'm sorry, but I do not understand how someone can feel any degree of joy or have a "little giggle" over someone else's misfortune. Whether or not he was wearing a helmet (One magazine says he wasn't, another said that it wasn't clear) does not matter. Yes, you can wave your finger at him and call him a dumbass, but this severe harshness is uncalled for. Some of you make me sick.
And some people like you that can't read make me sick. If you would read EVERYTHING that I have said, you would know that I laughed because of the situation. Never wished any harm on him at all and I hope he's okay. But I'm a Browns fan, my pure hatred is the Steelers, most particularly Ben, so to hear that, kinda have to have see some humor in it cause it was big deal him going around saying that he doesn't wear a helmet and cause finally they might get put in their place. I laughed at the Steelers, not him personally.

[mat1419]

completely off topic, but i banged his ex girlfriend last new years.

[Fullcollapse3k]

completely off topic, but i banged his ex girlfriend last new years.

Can I have your autograph? ;)

[Chemical Love]

I just think it's humorous because it's the Steelers that is happened to. Finally getting put in their place. That's it. I'm not wishing the guy to die or anything. And everything I've heard it's been head injuries, which well, a helmet would have stopped that. And he was warned numerous times by numerous people to wear a helmet. So any head injuries is his own stupid mistake.

It's just funny because out of the whole NFL, all the players, it happens to be him. Everyone laughing at it is taking it from the prospect of the name. No one wished this on him, but if this happened to your least favorite player or who you think is the biggest tool in the league, wouldn't you kinda find some humor in it too?
You sound like an idiot.

[smokedsanity]

And some people like you that can't read make me sick. If you would read EVERYTHING that I have said, you would know that I laughed because of the situation. Never wished any harm on him at all and I hope he's okay. But I'm a Browns fan, my pure hatred is the Steelers, most particularly Ben, so to hear that, kinda have to have see some humor in it cause it was big deal him going around saying that he doesn't wear a helmet and cause finally they might get put in their place. I laughed at the Steelers, not him personally.

I'm not even going to try to argue with you. That might have been one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on these forums.

[DownAndOut]

I'm not even going to try to argue with you. That might have been one of the most ridiculous statements ever.
Irony

[Fullcollapse3k]

A question to Steelers fans: How did you react when you heard about Kellen Winslow Jr.?

[smokedsanity]

Irony

And where was this irony you speak of? You find the need to "giggle" at this occurence, but "because it happened to the Steelers." I don't care if it's the Steelers or the Falcons (I'm a Saints fan), a man wrecked and found himself seriously injured. I don't see room for laughter. You sound ridiculous as you keep talking about "putting the Steelers in their place."

[FondestMemory]

A question to Steelers fans: How did you react when you heard about Kellen Winslow Jr.?

pretty much the same. he was a moron for doing what he did, but i didn't wish any ill on him.

and i knew that would come up, but they're really not the same. ben is healthy, riding his bike and simply got into an accident.

winslow was coming off an injury, and was trying stupid tricks on his bike.

there's a difference to me.

but still, as much as i hate hate hate the fucking browns, i didn't find it humourous at all.

[Fullcollapse3k]

pretty much the same. he was a moron for doing what he did, but i didn't wish any ill on him.

and i knew that would come up, but they're really not the same. ben is healthy, riding his bike and simply got into an accident.

winslow was coming off an injury, and was trying stupid tricks on his bike.

there's a difference to me.

but still, as much as i hate hate hate the fucking browns, i didn't find it humourous at all.

A bit of a difference, yeah, but it's still motorcycle stupidity either way you slice it.

[xearlynovemberx]

completely off topic, but i banged his ex girlfriend last new years.

hahha,thats fucking awesome my respect for you just went thru the roof

[DownAndOut]

You sound like an idiot.
Let's try in different terms....
Guy gets told repeatedly to wear helmet. Wearing helmet good for career. Still doesn't wear helmet. Continues on for quite a time whole thing. Accident happens. No helmet. Head injuries. Irony my friend, irony. Initial gasp at situation. Find out guy is okay, going to live, doesn't appear to have long term damage. Shake your head, groan, dumbass is learning is lesson the hard way. Followed by, "ha ha sighhhhhhhh that's why you wear a helmet."

[xearlynovemberx]

if ben was the qb in ny a bunch of people would have jumped off the closest bridge

[Fullcollapse3k]

Let's try in different terms....
Guy gets told repeatedly to wear helmet. Wearing helmet good for career. Still doesn't wear helmet. Continues on for quite a time whole thing. Accident happens. No helmet. Head injuries. Irony my friend, irony. Initial gasp at situation. Find out guy is okay, going to live, doesn't appear to have long term damage. Shake your head, groan, dumbass is learning is lesson the hard way. Followed by, "ha ha sighhhhhhhh that's why you wear a helmet."

That was my thought process step for step.

[DownAndOut]

And where was this irony you speak of? You find the need to "giggle" at this occurence, but "because it happened to the Steelers." I don't care if it's the Steelers or the Falcons (I'm a Saints fan), a man wrecked and found himself seriously injured. I don't see room for laughter. You sound ridiculous as you keep talking about "putting the Steelers in their place."
With the current situation aside, Steelers fans beleive that they are mighter than everyone else in the world. Well not all, but a lot. Believe me, I know this, I deal with them on a daily basis.

Back to situation. Steelers are worrying about a player, no longer thing they are God's gift to football or whatever. They have a worry and could possibly be thinking they don't have a perfect team anymore. They are put back in reality. I'm thinking in football terms when it comes to this. Nothing to do with Ben personally. As said many times, I hope he's okay, I really do.

As for irony, look at previous post I made.

[aloneatlastnj]

as a die hard steelers fan, you should have petetioned to have your teams backbone to wear a fucking helmet. jeez, how the fuck do you not see warning signs coming as this has happened way to often in the past. the guy has everything going for him and he refuses to put his safety first after watching others go down the same way in the past. his own fault. sad, yes. unfortunate, yes. But it's his fault.

i agree completely with you on this one.



and holy cow, look at the influx of non-sports forum posters.

[LeftWideOpen]

i agree completely with you on this one.



and holy cow, look at the influx of non-sports forum posters.

yeah, and it's no surprise that the moronic comments have flooded in.

yes, he should have known better. get over that and realize this is a human being just like the rest of us. When something like this happens, it isnt about football. It's becomes about something much more important.

[Caleb Cattivera]

a friend of mine was in a similar crash a little over a year ago. he was going around 45 mph and a car pulled in front of him. he smashed into the car, and into the back glass. he did have a helmet on, he has all his teeth, no scars, and the worst injury he had was a mild concussion. i dont know how fast ben was going, but to those saying his injuries wouldn't have been different with a helmet, ive seen what helmets can do for people in crashes like this. once again, ben's an idiot. but i hope he's alright.

[xearlynovemberx]

go eli

[smokedsanity]

With the current situation aside, Steelers fans beleive that they are mighter than everyone else in the world. Well not all, but a lot. Believe me, I know this, I deal with them on a daily basis.

Back to situation. Steelers are worrying about a player, no longer thing they are God's gift to football or whatever. They have a worry and could possibly be thinking they don't have a perfect team anymore. They are put back in reality. I'm thinking in football terms when it comes to this. Nothing to do with Ben personally. As said many times, I hope he's okay, I really do.

As for irony, look at previous post I made.

I can understand hatred and rivalry. I grew up in Alabama, as an Auburn fan. If you don't know anything about that rivalry, Auburn has been considered the red-headed step-child in the state while Alabama has been the team with all the glory and "12" National Championships. I heard about it all the time. So, I can understand rivalry, I just felt that you took it too far with the "giggle" and so forth. I didn't and do not want an argument. But...yes, he will survive and should be okay, but I still thought that it was too soon and too serious of a situation to make some of the remarks which were made.

[Fullcollapse3k]

once again, ben's an idiot. but i hope he's alright.

Agreed. I hope the guy recovers and comes out of it okay, which it looks like he is.

But sorry, I found humor in it, for all the times he was thrown on TV and went on about not wearing a helmet. This is part ego and part stupidity.

[LeftWideOpen]

Agreed. I hope the guy recovers and comes out of it okay, which it looks like he is.

But sorry, I found humor in it, for all the times he was thrown on TV and went on about not wearing a helmet. This is part ego and part stupidity.

it's nice that you can find humor in another person's serious injuries. You must be a fine human being, or just looking for attention.

[DownAndOut]

I can understand hatred and rivalry. I grew up in Alabama, as an Auburn fan. If you don't know anything about that rivalry, Auburn has been considered the red-headed step-child in the state while Alabama has been the team with all the glory and "12" National Championships. I heard about it all the time. So, I can understand rivalry, I just felt that you took it too far with the "giggle" and so forth. I didn't and do not want an argument. But...yes, he will survive and should be okay, but I still thought that it was too soon and too serious of a situation to make some of the remarks which were made.
"Giggle" for me is the same as a simple "ha ha" I said in previous post. Just my wording of it. As for too soon and serious, I've been hearing about it since it happened cause of where I work (Pro Football Hall of Fame) so I knew that it was all good and what not. Believe me, I was confident in my little giggle, or haha or whatever you want to call the second of slight laughter that came out of my mouth. If it was life threatening, that would be different. But it's not. As for career threatening..... that's another story.

[Caleb Cattivera]

fullcollapse didnt you wish for kellen winslow to get injured?

[Fullcollapse3k]

it's nice that you can find humor in another person's serious injuries. You must be a fine human being, or just looking for attention.

Again, I'm not saying I sat here and laughed my ass off or anything, but considering all the times the guy was told he should wear a helmet and didn't, I can't help but find some humor in it when I hear that he's gonna be fine.

If he were fighting for his life I wouldn't have found a bit of humor in it.

[Fullcollapse3k]

fullcollapse didnt you wish for kellen winslow to get injured?

Honestly, yeah. I can't stand the guy.

[xearlynovemberx]

Honestly, yeah. I can't stand the guy.

hes never going to play in an nfl game

[DownAndOut]

fullcollapse didnt you wish for kellen winslow to get injured?
Groan
I'm going to say that everytime that dumbass is mentioned

[DownAndOut]

hes never going to play in an nfl game
Not counting what he's already played in, I mostly agree. And for that one I'll go with.... Browns bad luck. Damn Cleveland sports and their luck.

[Fullcollapse3k]

hes never going to play in an nfl game

And given that he's the biggest douchebag of our time, I can't sit here and say I care.

Seriously, I've never wished a guy's career to go down the drain before him, I really mean that. This may also be misconstrued, I don't wish death on him or anything, that's ridiculous, but as for his career, I hope he amounts to absolutely nothing.

[DownAndOut]

And given that he's the biggest douchebag of our time, I can't sit here and say I care.

Seriously, I've never wished a guy's career to go down the drain before him, I really mean that. This may also be misconstrued, I don't wish death on him or anything, that's ridiculous, but as for his career, I hope he amounts to absolutely nothing.
*coughMauriceClarrettcough*

[xearlynovemberx]

And given that he's the biggest douchebag of our time, I can't sit here and say I care.

Seriously, I've never wished a guy's career to go down the drain before him, I really mean that. This may also be misconstrued, I don't wish death on him or anything, that's ridiculous, but as for his career, I hope he amounts to absolutely nothing.

i didnt like him that much in miami

[Fullcollapse3k]

*coughMauriceClarrettcough*

He had everything he got coming to him, but you can't tell me he's worse than K2.

[Caleb Cattivera]

Not counting what he's already played in, I mostly agree. And for that one I'll go with.... Browns bad luck. Damn Cleveland sports and their luck.

cleveland's not that bad. you got lebron and the cavs.

[xearlynovemberx]

cleveland's not that bad. you got lebron and the cavs.

and the indians

[Fullcollapse3k]

i didnt like him that much in miami

That was when my hatred for him as an athlete began. Remember, I think the first game of his junior season, he caught a TD and did the heisman pose. THE FIRST GAME OF THE YEAR. Come the fuck on..

And then he made himself look even better with his "I'm a soldier!" speech. You play football, kid, and given that this little tangent of his was made in a post-9/11 world, it doesn't sit well.

If you could just define douchebag with one person, he's the clear choice.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

it's nice that you can find humor in another person's serious injuries. You must be a fine human being, or just looking for attention.
Hypothetical question:

If you made your career doing something where a helmet has saved you from probably 75-100 injuries....why would you not wear one riding a motorcycle?

I mean, no one knows the benefit of wearing a helmet more than an NFL Quarterback.

On the real note: Here's to hoping Big Ben makes a full recovery for the 2007 season, sucks for such a young, TRUE star (the opposite being Kellen Winslow, who was only a star in his own mind) to get cut down like this, especially after the Super Bowl win.

[xearlynovemberx]

That was when my hatred for him as an athlete began. Remember, I think the first game of his junior season, he caught a TD and did the heisman pose. THE FIRST GAME OF THE YEAR. Come the fuck on..

And then he made himself look even better with his "I'm a soldier!" speech. You play football, kid, and given that this little tangent of his was made in a post-9/11 world, it doesn't sit well.

If you could just define douchebag with one person, he's the clear choice.

or when he started cursing out everyone in the media when they were interviewing him

[DownAndOut]

He had everything he got coming to him, but you can't tell me he's worse than K2.
It's tough. And for me it's different cause I've hearing about Clarrett since high school. He related more to me and what not.

[iamjeremywillia]

ESPN: What kind of gawk factor do you get when you're on a motorcycle?
Roethlisberger: I don't ever ride by myself. We always have at least one other guy there. They say 'I'm not worried about you riding, I'm worried about the other people,' and it's true. People don't see motorcycles as much because it's a smaller vehicle.

was he by himself?!?!

[Fullcollapse3k]

or when he started cursing out everyone in the media when they were interviewing him

Haha, on numerous occasions. He's the antithesis of what an NFL player should be.

With our luck he'll come back this season and play really well.

[DownAndOut]

cleveland's not that bad. you got lebron and the cavs.
That's the only good thing. And that comes and goes. Having Lebron I should say is the only good thing. Not counting the Cavs this season, in sports, we're always a dollar short

[Split2nd]

I don't understand the hatred for Big Ben... is he like Kobe here for football?

[xearlynovemberx]

Haha, on numerous occasions. He's the antithesis of what an NFL player should be.

With our luck he'll come back this season and play really well.

prob.

[Fullcollapse3k]

It's tough. And for me it's different cause I've hearing about Clarrett since high school. He related more to me and what not.

Clarett was an idiot.

Winslow was an idiot and a total nuiscance. I would take Clarett over Winslow just because of what he did for Ohio State his freshman year.

[Web250]

What a fucking idiot.

Go Giants

[smokedsanity]

"Giggle" for me is the same as a simple "ha ha" I said in previous post. Just my wording of it. As for too soon and serious, I've been hearing about it since it happened cause of where I work (Pro Football Hall of Fame) so I knew that it was all good and what not. Believe me, I was confident in my little giggle, or haha or whatever you want to call the second of slight laughter that came out of my mouth. If it was life threatening, that would be different. But it's not. As for career threatening..... that's another story.

I'm sorry, but I still feel that even though he will survive, snickering is inappropriate. Some people see it as okay to snicker or say harsh things because he is the Steelers QB or because he may not have been wearing a helmet, but I find that to be tasteless. Yes, when riding a motorcycle, a person should wear a helmet for safety. I just doubt (I won't dare claim knowledge or assume) that most of the people posting in the thread would be saying "Well, he wasn't wearing a helmet, so whatever, I can't feel sorry" if it were a close friend or relative in this situation. I can understand someone saying that it was a dumbass decision on his part or things like that, but to laugh or show no compassion for a seriously injured person seems a bit harsh to me.

[DownAndOut]

and the indians
Who fucking blew it last year. I'm still mad about that one. Everything could be lined up absolutely perfectly and if it was any other team, they would have been fine, but no, not the Indians.
I will admit, they are progressing overall, but they are good at messing up at the perfect time.

[xearlynovemberx]

What a fucking idiot.

Go Giants

yes

[Jesse2]

I laughed when I noticed that two of the people making retarded comments in this thread are a couple.

please don't make babies (even if he would be the prince of ohio)

I don't care how much you hate the Steelers, or how stupid riding a bike without a helmet is.... if this was your brother or best friend or whatever you would be heartbroken to hear people talking like this.

PS I'm a Seahawks fan, so this is in no way a pro-steelers bias coming out.

[Fullcollapse3k]

I laughed when I noticed that two of the people making retarded comments in this thread are a couple.

please don't make babies (even if he would be the prince of ohio)

I don't care how much you hate the Steelers, or how stupid riding a bike without a helmet is.... if this was your brother or best friend or whatever you would be heartbroken to hear people talking like this.

PS I'm a Seahawks fan, so this is in no way a pro-steelers bias coming out.

Blow me.

[LeftWideOpen]

Hypothetical question:

If you made your career doing something where a helmet has saved you from probably 75-100 injuries....why would you not wear one riding a motorcycle?

I mean, no one knows the benefit of wearing a helmet more than an NFL Quarterback.

On the real note: Here's to hoping Big Ben makes a full recovery for the 2007 season, sucks for such a young, TRUE star (the opposite being Kellen Winslow, who was only a star in his own mind) to get cut down like this, especially after the Super Bowl win.

i'm not saying the guy didnt use poor judgement. But thinking this is funny and saying he got what he deserved is an entirely different thing. The dude got seriously hurt ...there should be compassion for that, regardless of the circumstances. It's disturbing that some people's reaction was to laugh.

[LeftWideOpen]

I laughed when I noticed that two of the people making retarded comments in this thread are a couple..

AP has couples? Oh my word ....

I'm not even going to touch this.

[Fullcollapse3k]

i'm not saying the guy didnt use poor judgement. But thinking this is funny and saying he got what he deserve is an entirely different thing. The dude got seriously hurt ...there should be compassion for that, regardless of the circumstances. It's disturbing that some people's reaction was to laugh.

I do have compassion for the guy getting hurt, and I do wish him a fine recovery, though.

But when I read the news on it, and saw that he was alert and everything, sorry, but the first thing that went through my mind was that he was a moron. If that makes me some horrible person, well then so be it.

[DownAndOut]

I laughed when I noticed that two of the people making retarded comments in this thread are a couple.

please don't make babies (even if he would be the prince of ohio)

I don't care how much you hate the Steelers, or how stupid riding a bike without a helmet is.... if this was your brother or best friend or whatever you would be heartbroken to hear people talking like this.

PS I'm a Seahawks fan, so this is in no way a pro-steelers bias coming out.
Well if it was my brother, first things out of my mouth to him would be "dumbass" so no can't say that I would be heartbroken about it. And my brother knows that that's what would be said about him, from me and everyone. But that's beside the point.

Just don't go on and on about how you're not going to wear a helmet while riding your motorcycle even though you are told to, not just for the whole life saving thing, but to possibly save your career too and then don't expect people to react that way.

[xearlynovemberx]

AP has couples? Oh my word ....

I'm not even going to touch this.

hahaha

[DownAndOut]

AP has couples? Oh my word ....

I'm not even going to touch this.
A couple that just both happen to be members of the same site... yeah it is hard to imagine possible

[LeftWideOpen]

A couple that just both happen to be members of the same site... yeah it is hard to imagine possible

hey what you do in your personal time is your business. we don't need any details.

[hockey0001]

sucks for the steelers

[aloneatlastnj]

AP has couples? Oh my word ....

I'm not even going to touch this.


hahaha. LeftWide, i freakin' love you man. one of the more sensible bosox fans on here.


i hope the run of moronic comments ends with this thread. we have no need for stupid ass comments and AP couples. this isn't the general forum, folks.

[Caleb Cattivera]

hahaha. LeftWide, i freakin' love you man. one of the more sensible bosox fans on here.


i hope the run of moronic comments ends with this thread. i'm used to in-depth sports discussion with people who know their shit, not one of those AP couples coming in here and running their mouths. this isn't the general forum, folks.

i just got kinda teary eyed...a yakees fan and a bo sox fan bonding...

i kinda want to go hug a cubs fan.

i havent seen you post in here much, but you should join us more often.

[aloneatlastnj]

i just got kinda teary eyed...a yakees fan and a bo sox fan bonding...

i kinda want to go hug a cubs fan.

i havent seen you post in here much, but you should join us more often.


heh, Caleb, i've been around. you can find me in the MLB and NCAA threads, i'm sure. i definitely consider the sports forum one of the best places for sports discussion. the regulars in here know their shit. . :)

[Split2nd]

Did they meet on here?

AP.net dating service?

[Caleb Cattivera]

Did they meet on here?

AP.net dating service?

haha. you should propose this to tate. ap.net dating service.

[Jesse2]

Did they meet on here?

AP.net dating service?

yup, it was love at first pm.

actually i have no idea.

[Jesse2]

haha. you should propose this to tate. ap.net dating service.

absolutepork.net?

[Vincewithouthee]

Hahaha I love what this thread turned into.

[Drew Beringer]

Damn, EA Sports should have put Big Ben on the cover, then the curse would have been continued!

[bigmike]

this has probably been said tons of times in this thread but why as a pro athlete would you ride a motorcycle without a helmet?

Michigan is trying to repeal their mandatory helmet law as well, and I hope it doesn't get passed.

[Fullcollapse3k]

this has probably been said tons of times in this thread but why as a pro athlete would you ride a motorcycle without a helmet?

Michigan is trying to repeal their mandatory helmet law as well, and I hope it doesn't get passed.

Guess getting sacked will do more damage than having your head crushed into the pavement.

[Fullcollapse3k]

absolutepork.net?

Haha, swing and a miss.

[Jesse2]

Haha, swing and a miss.

or maybe you're still bitter about me telling you and your girlfriend to never procreate?

[Fullcollapse3k]

or maybe you're still bitter about me telling you and your girlfriend to never procreate?

To be bitter, I would have to care about your opinion on any aspect of my life.

[xbrokendownx]

ESPN just reported that the knee injuries werent as serious as first thought

[FondestMemory]

back to the topic at hand.

just in: the knee injuries aren't severe, like reported earlier.

yay!!!!!!

[preppyak]

this has probably been said tons of times in this thread but why as a pro athlete would you ride a motorcycle without a helmet?
hmmm...they just said the random fact was that as much as 75% of players ride motorcycles...interesting.

And yeah...riding anything with taht speed without a helmet is stupid...but, too late now.

Sounds like the knee isn't that serious as they made it out to be

[Vincewithouthee]

back to the topic at hand.

just in: the knee injuries aren't severe, like reported earlier.

yay!!!!!!

That's good news, for sure.

[preppyak]

ESPN just reported that the knee injuries werent as serious as first thought
back to the topic at hand.

just in: the knee injuries aren't severe, like reported earlier.

yay!!!!!!


Sounds like the knee isn't that serious as they made it out to be
haha...there must be an echo in here.

Ok, now back to the dating service

[CantBeStopped]

his pay should be taken away for the entire season. youd think athletes would learn. there goes the steelers season. and i actually rooted for them last year.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

j will part 2.

[bigmike]

his pay should be taken away for the entire season. youd think athletes would learn. there goes the steelers season. and i actually rooted for them last year.
Way to root for the steelers and not a team in your own home state. Why would you do that?

[bigmike]

j will part 2.
I don't think so. Jason Williams almost had to have his leg amputated. I haven't heard anything like that from this big ben crash.

[bigmike]

That's good news, for sure.
Definitely. I always want to see him do well, I've got to support MAC QB's/MAC players in the nfl.

Except Chad Pennington. Dude ripped the MAC Conference Championship game from Western Michigan's hands. so fuck that dude.

[FondestMemory]

his pay should be taken away for the entire season. youd think athletes would learn. there goes the steelers season. and i actually rooted for them last year.

nothing's said he's out for the season. if the knee injuries are minor, combined with the facial injuries, he may only be out about 7-8 weeks right now. so, he may not even miss a game.

[fromwithin]

Can I just say that the Lord answers prayers? I've been away all day waiting for this moment.

[fromwithin]

Let me just add that he deserves every injury he got to his head (the laceration, broken nose and jaw, and chipped teeth) because he was a fucking dumbass and decided to not wear a helmet.

[LeftWideOpen]

yup, it was love at first pm.

actually i have no idea.

I can just see it ..
AP Guy: "You ...complete ...me".
AP Girl: : "You had me at orly?. You ..had ..me ..at ...orly?"

[Jesse2]

I can just see it ..
AP Guy: "You ...complete ...me".
AP Girl: : "You had me at orly?. You ..had ..me ..at ...orly?"

http://www.orlyowl.com/nerdorly.jpg

[histrionics22]

People are saying his injuries would have been prevented with a helmet. Last time I checked, helmets don't protect you knees, teeth, nose or jaw.

That being said, not wearing a helmet is dumb. If I was about to make a lot of money on my next contract, I'd be afraid to move even furniture, let alone ride a bike.

It's been documented a year ago he never wears a helmet. The post-gazette had a huge article about it. He refuses. It's a biker thing.

[itsjdiggity]

I can just see it ..
AP Guy: "You ...complete ...me".
AP Girl: : "You had me at orly?. You ..had ..me ..at ...orly?"

haha

you and Jesticles2 are on fire

[hockey0001]

People are saying his injuries would have been prevented with a helmet. Last time I checked, helmets don't protect you knees, teeth, nose or jaw.

That being said, not wearing a helmet is dumb. If I was about to make a lot of money on my next contract, I'd be afraid to move even furniture, let alone ride a bike.

It's been documented a year ago he never wears a helmet. The post-gazette had a huge article about it. He refuses. It's a biker thing.


im pretty sure they protect those last 3 things

[Split2nd]

yup, it was love at first pm.

actually i have no idea.
hahaha

absolutepoon.net

[Split2nd]

im pretty sure they protect those last 3 things

How does a helmet protect your nose? I understand your jaw, but that's only if the helmet is strapped on really tightly. It depends how the injury occured.

[hockey0001]

How does a helmet protect your nose? I understand your jaw, but that's only if the helmet is strapped on really tightly. It depends how the injury occured.

i thought about it after my last post. It depends on the type of helmet, since he was riding what is called "the fastest legal street bike" by Suzuki, if he did wear a helmet it would have been one for those bikes not the kind that harley type riders wear.

http://www.weboshawa.com/Helmet_1SHOP.jpg vs http://www.buymotorcyclehelmets.com/assets/images/products/air1/tn-top-img_1774a.gif


but this argument is pointless seeing as how it will develop into what type of helmet he might have been wearing if he did choose to wear one.

[Jesse2]

im pretty sure they protect those last 3 things

i think he meant they wouldn't have been protected by the helmet worn by the Michigan Wolverines in 1937.

http://www.umich.edu/~bhl/helmet/fehelmet.jpg

[Split2nd]

i think he meant they wouldn't have been protected by the helmet worn by the Michigan Wolverines in 1937.

http://www.umich.edu/~bhl/helmet/fehelmet.jpg
Contrary to popular belief, that's actually a beanie that belonged to the Michigan Wolverines' alternate street line, which were the creation of P Diddy.

[LeftWideOpen]

i think he meant they wouldn't have been protected by the helmet worn by the Michigan Wolverines in 1937.

http://www.umich.edu/~bhl/helmet/fehelmet.jpg

yeah, or if he borrowed the helmet that natalie portman used in garden state to prevent seizures.

[Jesse2]

yeah, or if he borrowed the helmet that natalie portman used in garden state to prevent seizures.

so we agree that he should have been wearing one of these two helmets...

http://www.nat-portman.net/gallery/movies/gardenstate/gardenstate008.jpg

[FondestMemory]

yeah, or if he borrowed the helmet that natalie portman used in garden state to prevent seizures.

it didn't prevent seizures. it just protected her head during them.

not that it matters. i just like sounding smart.

this thread should be stickied. it's gone through four stages of ridiculous all in one day. the possibilities are endless.

[ActorInThisPlay]

he's an idiot and should have been wearing a helmet.

[NameTaken69]

he's an idiot and should have been wearing a helmet.
agreed

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I don't think so. Jason Williams almost had to have his leg amputated. I haven't heard anything like that from this big ben crash.
JWill's leg didn't have to be amputated because of the original accident injuries. The near amputation was from the staph infection that developed in the surgical incisions while he was "healing"

[xbrokendownx]

doctor jsut had a statement and said that he didnt hurt his knees at all really

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

doctor jsut had a statement and said that he didnt hurt his knees at all really
Well then it looks like he'll be playing this season.....with a nice set of dentures.

Or would he roll with porcelain veneers?

[Spicoli hey bud]

not sure if it was mentioned yet....

who was at fault in the accident?

[Split2nd]

he's an idiot and should have been wearing a helmet.
Way to completely derail the thread.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Way to completely derail the thread.
i really don't care...

[FondestMemory]

not sure if it was mentioned yet....

who was at fault in the accident?

the main report i heard said a car swerved in front of him, causing him to lose control and run into another car.

as far as i know, nobody was cited. police will be looking into it.

[Split2nd]

i really don't care...
Joke...

[ActorInThisPlay]

Joke...
ok my sarcasm detector has gone on the fritz today...hahaha

[fromwithin]

Police have identified the woman who was driving as the mother of Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer. Apparently she was traveling with Bengals WR Chad Johnson's mother and new Baltimore Ravens QB Steve McNair's mother on their way to take care of some "business" it has been reported. - ESPN

[LeftWideOpen]

Police have identified the woman who was driving as the mother of Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer. Apparently she was traveling with Bengals WR Chad Johnson's mother and new Baltimore Ravens QB Steve McNair's mother on their way to take care of some "business" it has been reported. - ESPN

wow what a terrible attempt at being funny.

[Jesse2]

wow what a terrible attempt at being funny.

yeah it almost hurt

[Rock]

Let's try in different terms....
Guy gets told repeatedly to wear helmet. Wearing helmet good for career. Still doesn't wear helmet. Continues on for quite a time whole thing. Accident happens. No helmet. Head injuries. Irony my friend, irony. Initial gasp at situation. Find out guy is okay, going to live, doesn't appear to have long term damage. Shake your head, groan, dumbass is learning is lesson the hard way. Followed by, "ha ha sighhhhhhhh that's why you wear a helmet."
that's not irony, that's a coincidence. a lot of people don't know the definition of irony.

p.s. you're a heartless idiot for laughing about someone else incurring serious injuries and who was in no way directly at fault for causing those injuries.

[Rock]

Joke...
every time i see your sig, i think of ducktales

[ActorInThisPlay]

that's not irony, that's a coincidence. a lot of people don't know the definition of irony.

p.s. you're a heartless idiot for laughing about someone else incurring serious injuries and who was in no way directly at fault for causing those injuries.
except for the fact that had he been wearing a helmet, he probably wouldn't have almost died.

[LeftWideOpen]

except for the fact that had he been wearing a helmet, he probably wouldn't have almost died.

hey next time someone you know has a heart attack, let me know so i can laugh in your face because they shouldn't have super sized those value meals.

if you want to play that game, there isn't a difference.

[Jesse2]

hey next time someone you know has a heart attack, let me know so i can laugh in your face because they shouldn't have super sized those value meals.

if you want to play that way, it's the same thing.

or when the king/queen of ohio has a family member dying of lung/skin cancer i'm going to be point out how HILARIOUS it is. then, for good measure I'll probably call him/her a dumbass.

[mikeford]

how ironic that he would NEVER think of stepping on a football field without a helmet, where things are probably going at 15 mph top speed at him and only weigh maybe a max of 300 pounds, but he decides when things are coming at him at a much faster rate of speed, weighing about 2 tons and are made of metal, he decides a helmet is stupid.

[Spicoli hey bud]

how ironic that he would NEVER think of stepping on a football field without a helmet, where things are probably going at 15 mph top speed at him and only weigh maybe a max of 300 pounds, but he decides when things are coming at him at a much faster rate of speed, weighing about 2 tons and are made of metal, he decides a helmet is stupid.
i don't know. if helmets weren't manditory this guy would probably claim that a helmet takes away from the true football experience.

[Split2nd]

Wow, that's not irony at all. Your pathetic attempt at trying to be cute failed miserably. (not you mike, the pioneer of the ap dating service)

[Split2nd]

every time i see your sig, i think of ducktales

Did Ducktales also make $360+ in two months?

(I'm a heartless spammer with no soul)

And actor.... what left said... you can call him an idiot for not wearing a helmet, but laughing at someone for having a motorcycle accident when it most likely wasn't even his fault is pretty messed up. So he didn't deserve to almost die, but he deserved to still have major head/jaw injuries if he was wearing a helmet?

[fromwithin]

A new twist to the case:

Ben Roethlisberger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6770) might have been riding without a license to drive a motorcycle when he was involved in an accident Monday. Pittsburgh television station KDKA reported Tuesday that police are checking whether the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback had a license.Roethlisberger was riding this motorcycle when he collided with an automobile in Pittsburgh on Monday morning. Sources told the TV station that Roethlisberger had a license to operate a car but has never had a Pennsylvania motorcycle license. Roethlisberger had a learner's permit to operate a motorcycle that expired March 29 but had never taken the written and driving tests for a motorcycle license, a source told KDKA. Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Tammy Ewin told the station that police would "have no comment on licensing issues" until after the accident investigation.

[Jesse2]

Did Ducktales also make $360+ in two months?

uh.... didn't those dudes swim around in money?

i think they made a BIT more than you

[Split2nd]

Oops. I was thinking of Darkwing Duck.


http://www.c4vct.com/kym/slachash/kiss/dwdkiss.gif

[justinevans]

I'm not sure if this was posted yet :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005Q QcategoryZ25211QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[sweethypocrisy]

I'm not sure if this was posted yet :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005Q QcategoryZ25211QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
hahahaha. im sorry, thats just too funny. 81 dollars is the current bid.

[histrionics22]

I'm willing to put money on a lot of the people calling Ben dumb don't wear seatbelts.

[sweethypocrisy]

I'm willing to put money on a lot of the people calling Ben dumb don't wear seatbelts.
wearing a seatbelt is the law though. wearing a helmet isnt law in penn.

[Split2nd]

I'm not sure if this was posted yet :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005Q QcategoryZ25211QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That's hilarious.... hahaha why would someone bid on that

[histrionics22]

wearing a seatbelt is the law though. wearing a helmet isnt law in penn.
And I supposed you stop ALL THE WAY at stop signs. Give me a break.

The point is, people say he's dumb for not wearing a helmet and doing all he can to save his life, yet I'm willing to bet a lot of these same people don't wear a seatbelt.

[sweethypocrisy]

And I supposed you stop ALL THE WAY at stop signs. Give me a break.

The point is, people say he's dumb for not wearing a helmet and doing all he can to save his life, yet I'm willing to bet a lot of these same people don't wear a seatbelt.
well i dont drive. but your whole argument is dumb, the fact is he was on a dangerous vehicle not wearing a helmet. not wearing a seatbelt is just as stupid though, but you dont know who does and doesnt. big ben has been told plenty of times to wear his helmet, and hell, hes a grown man, no one should have to tell him, he should know. its common sense.

[fromwithin]

if he's so tough, then I'd like to hear his answer on if he'd wear a helmet or not when playing football if that rule got thrown out.

[histrionics22]

well i dont drive. but your whole argument is dumb, the fact is he was on a dangerous vehicle not wearing a helmet. not wearing a seatbelt is just as stupid though, but you dont know who does and doesnt. big ben has been told plenty of times to wear his helmet, and hell, hes a grown man, no one should have to tell him, he should know. its common sense.
It's a biker thing.

I'm not defending him. I would never ride a bike let alone without a helmet. But it's his choice.

[Split2nd]

if he's so tough, then I'd like to hear his answer on if he'd wear a helmet or not when playing football if that rule got thrown out.
Hey... that hasn't been said once during this thread! What a novel idea, please elaborate.

[Vincewithouthee]

http://roethlisberger.justgotowned.com/

It's pretty retarded, but some of you guys might find it funny.

[Split2nd]

http://roethlisberger.justgotowned.com/

It's pretty retarded, but some of you guys might find it funny.
Oh man, hilarious! A guy flies off his motorcycle in an accident that wasn't his fault and almost suffers a life threatening injury. Oh, too much!

[ActorInThisPlay]

And I supposed you stop ALL THE WAY at stop signs. Give me a break.

The point is, people say he's dumb for not wearing a helmet and doing all he can to save his life, yet I'm willing to bet a lot of these same people don't wear a seatbelt.
I actually wear a seatbelt every time I am in a car driving or not. If you don't then you should be ready to face the possibly consequences of not. Same goes for not wearing a helmet.

[ActorInThisPlay]

hey next time someone you know has a heart attack, let me know so i can laugh in your face because they shouldn't have super sized those value meals.

if you want to play that game, there isn't a difference.
yeah cause that's the same thing...if you are honestly defending him not wearing a helmet then you are a fucking retard.

[LeftWideOpen]

yeah cause that's the same thing...if you are honestly defending him not wearing a helmet then you are a fucking retard.

who is defending him? It is the same thing by the way ...its all risky behavior. The only difference is that eating fast food over and over is a more socially acceptable behavior due to our grossly overweight society. I feel sympathy for the person who eats himself into the ground just like I feel sympathy for the person who gets in an accident and hurts himself because he wasn't wearing a helmet. You can't pick and choose which risky behaviors you are going to accept and which ones you are going to reject ..its irrational.

and for christ sake kid, buy a dictionary and learn to use another phrase besides "fucking retard".

[Rock]

how ironic that he would NEVER think of stepping on a football field without a helmet
helmets are mandatory, homie.

Did Ducktales also make $360+ in two months?

(I'm a heartless spammer with no soul)
scrooge mcduck must have been at least a billionaire. i hate spammers with all of my soul (but not you, you seem alright).

[Rock]

if he's so tough, then I'd like to hear his answer on if he'd wear a helmet or not when playing football if that rule got thrown out.
sounds irrelevant to me.

[justinevans]

who is defending him? It is the same thing by the way ...its all risky behavior. The only difference is that eating fast food over and over is a more socially acceptable behavior due to our grossly overweight society. I feel sympathy for the person who eats himself into the ground just like I feel sympathy for the person who gets in an accident and hurts himself because he wasn't wearing a helmet. You can't pick and choose which risky behaviors you are going to accept and which ones you are going to reject ..its irrational.

and for christ sake kid, buy a dictionary and learn to use another phrase besides "fucking retard".

Well he is from California and well...you know.

I'm afraid we will not be able to have another Villanova-BC bet again =(. Fucking Lowry.

[justinevans]

I actually wear a seatbelt every time I am in a car driving or not. If you don't then you should be ready to face the possibly consequences of not. Same goes for not wearing a helmet.

It is a freedom to do whatever you want. I wear a seatbelt because it has become a habit, not because I have to. I have ADD and if I'm not strapped in God knows what will happen haha.

[LeftWideOpen]

Well he is from California and well...you know.

I'm afraid we will not be able to have another Villanova-BC bet again =(. Fucking Lowry.

haha, we lost craig smith though ....so it'd be a pretty close game. BC doesnt look to be more than a team in the Top 15-20 range and 3rd or 4th place in the ACC, although I'm optimistic we could surprise some people. Dudley, Williams and Rice are a sick little trio.

[justinevans]

haha, we lost craig smith though ....so it'd be a pretty close game. BC doesnt look to be more than a team in the Top 15-20 range and 3rd or 4th place in the ACC, although I'm optimistic we could surprise some people. Dudley, Williams and Rice are a sick little trio.

Welll, we lost Foye, Ray, possibly Lowry, and Fraser.

I guess our lineup will be Sheridan Clark, Sumpter, ?, Nardi

[Rock]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApLnTLy_TkGn8hNtIrIfLp1Du bYF?slug=ap-roethlisbergeraccident&prov=ap&type=lgns

he didn't have to get his jaw wired shut, and didn't suffer any brain damage. BOOYAH!

[ActorInThisPlay]

who is defending him? It is the same thing by the way ...its all risky behavior. The only difference is that eating fast food over and over is a more socially acceptable behavior due to our grossly overweight society. I feel sympathy for the person who eats himself into the ground just like I feel sympathy for the person who gets in an accident and hurts himself because he wasn't wearing a helmet. You can't pick and choose which risky behaviors you are going to accept and which ones you are going to reject ..its irrational.

and for christ sake kid, buy a dictionary and learn to use another phrase besides "fucking retard".
if you don't wear a helmet, your an idiot. if you don't wear a seatbelt you are an idiot. if you eat yourself "into the ground" you are an idiot. Sure I think it is sad what happened and I don't wish harm on anyone but if he walked out onto the football field without a helmet and got a severe concussion, you would think he wasn't an idiot for not wearing something that will obviously protect him and possibly save his life.

And dude I am probably older then you are so don't call me a kid. I'll use whatever the hell phrase I choose to as long as it fits the person I am describing, "fucking retard."

[ActorInThisPlay]

It is a freedom to do whatever you want. I wear a seatbelt because it has become a habit, not because I have to. I have ADD and if I'm not strapped in God knows what will happen haha.
yeah and if you are OK with not wearing a seatbelt then that is fine. All I am saying is don't bitch if you get into an accident and almost lose your life because you chose not to wear that seatbelt.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Well he is from California and well...you know.

I'm afraid we will not be able to have another Villanova-BC bet again =(. Fucking Lowry.
This coming from someone who is from New Jersey....hahahaha

[LeftWideOpen]

if you don't wear a helmet, your an idiot. if you don't wear a seatbelt you are an idiot. if you eat yourself "into the ground" you are an idiot. Sure I think it is sad what happened and I don't wish harm on anyone but if he walked out onto the football field without a helmet and got a severe concussion, you would think he wasn't an idiot for not wearing something that will obviously protect him and possibly save his life.

And dude I am probably older then you are so don't call me a kid. I'll use whatever the hell phrase I choose to as long as it fits the person I am describing, "fucking retard."

dude you are going in so many directions with this weak argument that it's hard to even follow. First, you put words in my mouth and said I was defending him when I did no such thing. Second, you said that not wearing a helmet isnt the same thing as someone who has complications from overeating. Now though, the person who overeats is an idiot to you, just like Ben is for not wearing a helmet, so that would make them the same thing. So let's recap then ...1) you are a dick who criticizes other's misfortune, and 2) you have a completely illogical argument. Alright ..that's settled.

I hope to god you aren't older then me ...I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by calling you a kid.

[ActorInThisPlay]

dude you are going in so many directions with this weak argument that it's hard to even follow. First, you put words in my mouth and said I was defending him when I did no such thing. Second, you said that not wearing a helmet isnt the same thing as someone who has complications from overeating. Now though, the person who overeats is an idiot to you, just like Ben is for not wearing a helmet, so that would make them the same thing. So let's recap then ...1) you are a dick who criticizes other's misfortune, and 2) you have a completely illogical argument. Alright ..that's settled.

I hope to god you aren't older then me ...I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by calling you a kid.
what the hell are you talking about? Ok so by your argument someone who rapes a little kid is an idiot, and someone who doesn't wear a seltbelt is an idiot, so they are the same? so in that case people who don't wear seatbelts are on the same par as people that rape little children. come on are you fucking kidding me? Looks like you are the one with the illogical argument here.

I am not criticizing anyone's misfortune but simply stating that Ben is an idiot for not wearing a helmet. Next...

[Jesse2]

what the hell are you talking about? Ok so by your argument someone who rapes a little kid is an idiot, and someone who doesn't wear a seltbelt is an idiot, so they are the same? so in that case people who don't wear seatbelts are on the same par as people that rape little children. come on are you fucking kidding me? Looks like you are the one with the illogical argument here.

and my head just exploded

[FondestMemory]

where the fuck did raping kids come from?

i clearly missed something.

[ActorInThisPlay]

where the fuck did raping kids come from?

i clearly missed something.
omg it was just an example of how incredibly messed up the logic in his argument was.

[sweethypocrisy]

where the fuck did raping kids come from?

i clearly missed something.
matt likes to rape kids while eating burgers on his motorcycle that he rides without a helmet.


thats what i got out of it. :(

[FondestMemory]

omg it was just an example of how incredibly messed up the logic in his argument was.

i'm not trying to be a dick, but i'm pretty sure that was your logic that he was just repeating back to you.

[LeftWideOpen]

what the hell are you talking about? Ok so by your argument someone who rapes a little kid is an idiot, and someone who doesn't wear a seltbelt is an idiot, so they are the same? so in that case people who don't wear seatbelts are on the same par as people that rape little children. come on are you fucking kidding me? Looks like you are the one with the illogical argument here.

I am not criticizing anyone's misfortune but simply stating that Ben is an idiot for not wearing a helmet. Next...

:shake:

you arent very bright, are you? Follow me here ...type it into your speak n spell as you go, if that will help any ..

1) The issue here is risky behavior. Not what makes someone an idiot
2) Someone who neglects to wear a helmet is taking a risk.
3) Overeating is a risky behavior.
4) If you consider someone an idiot for not wearing a helmet (which you do), it's only logical to consider someone an idiot for overeating. They are both risky behaviors

You have, at different points in this thread, claimed that they weren't similar but that they were both idiots. You basically chose one risky behavior and deemed it more reasonable then the other. It isn't ..thats my point.

Nobody is talking about rape, murder, or any other crime. It's an entirely different subject.

[LeftWideOpen]

i'm not trying to be a dick, but i'm pretty sure that was your logic that he was just repeating back to you.

bingo.

[Jesse2]

:shake:

you arent very bright, are you? Follow me here ...type it into your speak n spell as you go, if that will help any ..

1) The issue here is risky behavior. Not what makes someone an idiot
2) Someone who neglects to wear a helmet is taking a risk.
3) Overeating is a risky behavior.
4) If you consider someone an idiot for not wearing a helmet (which you do), it's only logical to consider someone an idiot for overeating. They are both risky behaviors

You have, at different points in this thread, claimed that they weren't similar but that they were both idiots. You basically chose one risky behavior and deemed it more reasonable then the other. It isn't ..thats my point.

Nobody is talking about rape, murder, or any other crime. It's an entirely different subject.

so it's okay to rape kids?

i'm confused.

[FondestMemory]

so it's okay to rape kids?

i'm confused.

only if you wear a helmet.

[LeftWideOpen]

so it's okay to rape kids?

i'm confused.

hahah .... no. i'm just trying to point out to this guy how his logic is extremely flawed. rape is an entirely different thing then riding a bike w/out a helmet, overeating, smoking cigarettes, etc.

but you obviously know this.

[Jesse2]

hahah .... no. i'm just trying to point out to this guy how his logic is extremely flawed. rape is an entirely different thing then riding a bike w/out a helmet, overeating, smoking cigarettes, etc.

but you obviously know this.

;)

[Jesse2]

only if you wear a helmet.

oddly enough, that is a law in pennsylvania

[ActorInThisPlay]

:shake:

you arent very bright, are you? Follow me here ...type it into your speak n spell as you go, if that will help any ..

1) The issue here is risky behavior. Not what makes someone an idiot
2) Someone who neglects to wear a helmet is taking a risk.
3) Overeating is a risky behavior.
4) If you consider someone an idiot for not wearing a helmet (which you do), it's only logical to consider someone an idiot for overeating. They are both risky behaviors

You have, at different points in this thread, claimed that they weren't similar but that they were both idiots. You basically chose one risky behavior and deemed it more reasonable then the other. It isn't ..thats my point.

Nobody is talking about rape, murder, or any other crime. It's an entirely different subject.
whatever, it was just an example. You were trying to point out that they were exactly the same which they are not.

"Now though, the person who overeats is an idiot to you, just like Ben is for not wearing a helmet, so that would make them the same thing"

that statement is not logically correct. you are the one with the flawed logic. I simply made an example of a rapist, I never said it was the best example and stated that if think they are the same simply because in both cases they are idiots, then it must be the same for all idiots. My logic was never flawed and I don't see where you see that it was. I didn't agree with the rapist scenario obviously but it was there to prove a point, a point that must have flown over all of your heads then.

Eating badly is not a risky behavior in the short run so in that case your example isn't the same as not wearing a helmet. Not wearing a helmet can have immediate consequences whereas eating a Big Mac at McDonalds will not. So in that case, your example also has nothing to do with not wearing a helmet.

This whole argument is getting really stupid and you people are obviously not getting it. If you want to believe that eating badly and not wearing a helmet are the same thing, then go right ahead and believe it but you are very mistaken. A better analogy would have been not wearing a seatbelt or something to that effect.

[ActorInThisPlay]

i'm not trying to be a dick, but i'm pretty sure that was your logic that he was just repeating back to you.
It wasn't my logic, I never said anywhere that eating badly and not wearing a helmet were exactly the same thing. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

[FondestMemory]

It wasn't my logic, I never said anywhere that eating badly and not wearing a helmet were exactly the same thing. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

in no way am i putting words in your mouth.

the argument went as follows:

you said: "if you don't wear a helmet, you're an idiot. if you don't wear a seatbelt you are an idiot. if you eat yourself "into the ground" you are an idiot."

he said: "you said that not wearing a helmet isnt the same thing as someone who has complications from overeating. Now though, the person who overeats is an idiot to you, just like Ben is for not wearing a helmet, so that would make them the same thing."

he was simply restating to you what he interpreted your argument was saying.

i was only stating that. and in everybody's defense, you really weren't making any sense until your most recent post. now i at least somewhat understand what you were trying to say earlier.

[ActorInThisPlay]

in no way am i putting words in your mouth.

the argument went as follows:

you said: "if you don't wear a helmet, you're an idiot. if you don't wear a seatbelt you are an idiot. if you eat yourself "into the ground" you are an idiot."

he said: "you said that not wearing a helmet isnt the same thing as someone who has complications from overeating. Now though, the person who overeats is an idiot to you, just like Ben is for not wearing a helmet, so that would make them the same thing."

he was simply restating to you what he interpreted your argument was saying.

i was only stating that. and in everybody's defense, you really weren't making any sense until your most recent post. now i at least somewhat understand what you were trying to say earlier.

ok if you mean same thing as in them both being idiots, then OK, but they are still by no means the same thing. One is a disorder and one is out of sheer stupidity or carelessness.

This is where the rapist analogy came in. Since he said that overeating and not wearing a helmet were the same thing because they came to the same conclusion then someone being an idiot for raping someone else must also be the same thing. Like I said, it isn't the best analogy but I hope you at least understand what I am saying. Just because you come to the same conclusion, doesn't make them the same thing.

[Split2nd]

Does anyone even know what the fuck they're arguing about anymore?

[justinevans]

yeah and if you are OK with not wearing a seatbelt then that is fine. All I am saying is don't bitch if you get into an accident and almost lose your life because you chose not to wear that seatbelt.

I absolutely agree.

[justinevans]

oddly enough, that is a law in pennsylvania

alot of states don' t require motorcyclists to wear helmets.

[FondestMemory]

ok if you mean same thing as in them both being idiots, then OK, but they are still by no means the same thing. One is a disorder and one is out of sheer stupidity or carelessness.

This is where the rapist analogy came in. Since he said that overeating and not wearing a helmet were the same thing because they came to the same conclusion then someone being an idiot for raping someone else must also be the same thing. Like I said, it isn't the best analogy but I hope you at least understand what I am saying. Just because you come to the same conclusion, doesn't make them the same thing.

i see what you're saying now. i never had a side in the argument, i only jumped in when the child rape thing confused the fuck out of me.

i do see what you're saying though. and i see what he was saying.

[FondestMemory]

alot of states don' t require motorcyclists to wear helmets.

but what he said was a joke insinuating that in pa it's a law to wear a helmet while raping a child.

[justinevans]

This coming from someone who is from New Jersey....hahahaha

Arnold...enough said.

[justinevans]

but what he said was a joke insinuating that in pa it's a law to wear a helmet while raping a child.

oh lol.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Arnold...enough said.
exactly, we will terminate you. plus we have Disneyland which automatically makes us better then you.

[histrionics22]

Great Adventure...home to some great roller coasters.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Great Adventure...home to some great roller coasters.
but Disneyland is the happiest place on Earth. Plus we have Six Flags Magic Mountain which has got great roller coasters.

[histrionics22]

New Jersey...home to the lowest gas prices in the US. Plus we don't even have to pump our own.

But anyway back to topic, I'm kind of sick of the media coverage of this. They interviewed Randle El and Ike Taylor for like 10 minutes the other day.

Edit: Plus http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698658-100.stm

[FondestMemory]

New Jersey...home to the lowest gas prices in the US. Plus we don't even have to pump our own.

yeah, but you can't make left turns.

[ActorInThisPlay]

New Jersey...home to the lowest gas prices in the US. Plus we don't even have to pump our own.

But anyway back to topic, I'm kind of sick of the media coverage of this. They interviewed Randle El and Ike Taylor for like 10 minutes the other day.

Edit: Plus http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698658-100.stm
yeah I'm sick of it too. It's like Ben took a shit, let's take an hour to cover it and interview his teammates, family members, and friends and see their responses to it.

[histrionics22]

yeah, but you can't make left turns.
Haha. True. But only in Pittsburgh do you have stop signs that say "stop unless turning right". I mean how is that safe.

[FondestMemory]

Haha. True. But only in Pittsburgh do you have stop signs that say "stop unless turning right". I mean how is that safe.

who ever said driving in pittsburgh was safe? i hate driving in pa.

[histrionics22]

who ever said driving in pittsburgh was safe? i hate driving in pa.
Haha ok. Well I don't know enough about Ohio to make fun of it.

[FondestMemory]

Haha ok. Well I don't know enough about Ohio to make fun of it.

haha. fair enough. i grew up in indiana if ya have any material on that one.

[sweethypocrisy]

Haha ok. Well I don't know enough about Ohio to make fun of it.
fuck ohio. come to our state and just piss, then leave.

[fromwithin]

The best thing about the whole wreck:

Bengals receiver Chad Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5483) hopes the accident does not cause teams to impose more contractual limits on dangerous activities by players.


"They took away the [touchdown] celebrations. Now we can't enjoy ourselves outside of the facility? That's not fair," Johnson said.


"If you're going to do it, do it very cautiously. If you're going to ride a bike, ride it the right way. Don't speed. Do it for enjoyment. If you're going to bungee jump, have two cords in case one snaps. I don't ride anything. I just talk trash. That's it."



That's why he's #1 in the NFL.

[ActorInThisPlay]

The best thing about the whole wreck:

Bengals receiver Chad Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5483) hopes the accident does not cause teams to impose more contractual limits on dangerous activities by players.


"They took away the [touchdown] celebrations. Now we can't enjoy ourselves outside of the facility? That's not fair," Johnson said.


"If you're going to do it, do it very cautiously. If you're going to ride a bike, ride it the right way. Don't speed. Do it for enjoyment. If you're going to bungee jump, have two cords in case one snaps. I don't ride anything. I just talk trash. That's it."



That's why he's #1 in the NFL.
yeah no way he is #1 in the NFL. He is good but not even #1 receiver in the NFL.

edit: I do like his comments though.

[FondestMemory]

yeah no way he is #1 in the NFL. He is good but not even #1 receiver in the NFL.

agreed.

[fromwithin]

yeah no way he is #1 in the NFL. He is good but not even #1 receiver in the NFL.

marvin harrison is getting old, and so is T.O. time for someone new.

I'd say its a 3-way tie between Chad, Anquan Boldin, and Larry Fitzgerald.

[ActorInThisPlay]

marvin harrison is getting old, and so is T.O. time for someone new.

I'd say its a 3-way tie between Chad, Anquan Boldin, and Larry Fitzgerald.
I say Steve Smith, T.O., and Moss are still the best receivers in football right now but their attitudes get in the way sometimes.

Johnson is definitely up there though.

[justinevans]

exactly, we will terminate you. plus we have Disneyland which automatically makes us better then you.

Great Adventure is bigger than Disneyland pal...It is the biggest 6 flags.

[justinevans]

New Jersey...home to the lowest gas prices in the US. Plus we don't even have to pump our own.

But anyway back to topic, I'm kind of sick of the media coverage of this. They interviewed Randle El and Ike Taylor for like 10 minutes the other day.

Edit: Plus http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698658-100.stm

NJ is in the upper half of higher gas prices. S.C., mizzou, ,tenn, okla, alabama, and the rest of the south are lower

[histrionics22]

Oh well. it didnt used to be like that. http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/gasprices/

[justinevans]

Oh well. it didnt used to be like that. http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/gasprices/

the part about that thing that boggles my mind is that diesel is higher than unleaded and diesel is the crudest form of fuel.

[fromwithin]

I say Steve Smith, T.O., and Moss are still the best receivers in football right now but their attitudes get in the way sometimes.

Johnson is definitely up there though.

yeah take steve smith out of that group. he's only good because he gets the ball thrown to him 200 times a year. anyone could do that.

[FondestMemory]

yeah take steve smith out of that group. he's only good because he gets the ball thrown to him 200 times a year. anyone could do that.

oh, really? i didn't know that.

but, i did know that in 2005 he only had 150 balls thrown to him, not 200. of those 150, he caught 103. yeah, 150 is a lot of attempts to one player, but let's compare that to other players.

anquan blodin - 171 passes thrown to, 102 receptions.
larry fitzgerald - 165 passes thrown to, 103 receptions.
plaxico burress - 166 passes thrown to, 76 receptions.
chris chambers - 166 passes thrown to, 86 receptions.
torry holt - 163 passes thrown to, 102 receptions.

and, let's not forget the "#1 in the nfl":
chad johnson - 155 passes thrown to, 97 receptions.

i'm not discrediting any of the receivers mentioned, i'm just merely pointing out that if you want to knock steve smith, you're gonna have to find another reason. cause in all actuality, among the top receivers last season, he had the fewest thrown his way, but yet tied for the most caught.

but shit, anybody can do that.

[itsjdiggity]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/gallery/files/2/5/5/2/8/stevesmithboat.gif

[ActorInThisPlay]

Great Adventure is bigger than Disneyland pal...It is the biggest 6 flags.
Disneyland >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other theme park ever.

[ActorInThisPlay]

oh, really? i didn't know that.

but, i did know that in 2005 he only had 150 balls thrown to him, not 200. of those 150, he caught 103. yeah, 150 is a lot of attempts to one player, but let's compare that to other players.

anquan blodin - 171 passes thrown to, 102 receptions.
larry fitzgerald - 165 passes thrown to, 103 receptions.
plaxico burress - 166 passes thrown to, 76 receptions.
chris chambers - 166 passes thrown to, 86 receptions.
torry holt - 163 passes thrown to, 102 receptions.

and, let's not forget the "#1 in the nfl":
chad johnson - 155 passes thrown to, 97 receptions.

i'm not discrediting any of the receivers mentioned, i'm just merely pointing out that if you want to knock steve smith, you're gonna have to find another reason. cause in all actuality, among the top receivers last season, he had the fewest thrown his way, but yet tied for the most caught.

but shit, anybody can do that.
:pwned:

[Split2nd]

Disneyland >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other theme park ever.
Dude, no way. Six flags is the best ever. Don't forget Raging "why is the water yellow?" Waters. haha

[ActorInThisPlay]

Dude, no way. Six flags is the best ever. Don't forget Raging "why is the water yellow?" Waters. haha
where is Adam when I need him?

[Split2nd]

where is Adam when I need him?
.?

[Rock]

who ever said driving in pittsburgh was safe? i hate driving in pa.
man, me too. they have those stupid stoplights on the middle of poles, and i've driven right through one because i didn't see it. what a dumb place to put a stoplight.

[justinevans]

Disneyland >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other theme park ever.

disney world is better than disney land lol.