How are any of these CrunkCore?

[ANYcore]

Okay, first thread.

Crunkcore, must say, I'm not really a fan, but I still rate it as a genre of music.

People say that crunkcore simply doesent work.

Crunk is pretty much shouted raps. If rapcore has worked in the mainstream, logically, "Crunkcore" should as well, if not better.

Now I can see where Brokencyde is coming from when they call themselves crunkcore, whilst i would still rate it as a hard rap/screamo? fusion, I think they have sexual innuendo or drugs in every one of their songs, so I will happily say it is crunkcore.

However, what does piss me off is when bands like 30H3!, Breathe Carolina, Attack Attack, The Millionaires, and Hollywood Undead are put into this.

3OH3!, they are a mainstream electronica/rap fusion. Where is the hardcore influence? Crunk? What the hell, there is barely any influence of crunk whatsoever in their music. They are a pop/electronica band that moved away from any hardcore influence long ago.

Attack Attack!
God knows what the fuck they are, they sound like deathcore one second, to metalcore the next, to some sort of Maroon 5 cover, and then they start hopping around like crabs. Somewhere in the middle some idiot picked up the use of autotune and decided it was crunkcore. There is no crunk whatsoever in their music. Also they know how to play instruments.

The Millionaires.
Oh come on, CRUNK?, just because they act like sluts does not make them crunk. I also fail to see any hardcore punk influence on them either. If you manage to find any hardcore influence, dont mix crunk into it, call it slutcore or something.

Hollywood Undead?
Rapcore. barely any crunk influence, no autotune, some of their songs have meaning, they know how to play instruments.

Breathe Carolina?
Pretty much Electronica, with some screamo influence. I cant see any crunk.


Point of thread?
Why is there such genre confusion over these music groups, or has crunkcore pretty much become the shitcore basket?

In my opinion, any group that is considered crunkcore should have just been thrown into the rapcore basket, and people should stop trying to assort bands into certain genres just so they can criticize the genre as a whole.


Thank you :)

[DaGaR]

it all sucks.

[JustinSxE]

tl;dr - Crappy bands need crappy-but-fitting genres

[ANYcore]

tl;dr - Crappy bands need crappy-but-fitting genres

Where is the "fitting" though.

[maxvsmaradona]

Where is the "fitting" though.

Anal.

/thread

[gr33ndayfr3ak]

Anal.

/thread

lol.

[HometownHero]

:lol:

[x1onexwo1fx]

Anal.

/thread

haha.

wait, this isn't pl...

[bladerdude360]

Funny thing is I kind of agree with some of this.

[AndrewIcex]

I will pass on all of it.

[barkingincision]

gross.

[five inch taint]

The Boston Phoenix described it (Crunkcore)as "a combination of minimalist Southern hip-hop, Auto-Tune croons, techno breakdowns, barked vocals, and party-til-you-puke poetics."



Crunkcore has been heavily criticised by music magazines such as Kerrang!, who called it "possibly the worst genre of music ever created."



John McDonnell, writing for The Guardian, said that crunkcore "sounds like a Chamillionaire track performed by a teenage Slipknot tribute band." He closed the article with "Oh God. I've suddenly come to my fucking senses. What was I thinking? [Crunkcore] is the worst thing to happen to music since Katie Melua's "Nine Million Bicycles" in Beijing."

Alex Gaskarth of All Time Low told mtv.com:
"There used to be that whole mentality of ... it had to be 100 percent genuine, or no one would take it seriously. But that whole line has been blurred now ... You have all these kids coming up on Disney pop who then discover bands like BrokeNCYDE, and they're like, 'Oh my God, they said fuck!,' and they fall in love instantly, because it's their version of '80s punk."
August Brown of the Los Angeles Times writes:
"The prerecorded backing tracks and juvenile misogyny of bands such as the New Mexico screamo-crunk act BrokenCYDE are affronts to traditionalist punk values." "This (sic) 'Albucrazy'-based band has done for MySpace emo what some think Soulja Boy did for hip-hop: turn their career into a kind of macro-performance art that exists so far beyond the tropes of irony and sincerity that to ask 'are they kidding?' is like trying to peel an onion to get to a perceived central core that, in the end, does not exist and renders all attempts to reassemble the pieces futile."

[loganmmm]

You're putting WAY too much emphasis on categorizing music. You could call it "rock" and it would still suck.

[anthonydarko]

This site as a whole is still giving this crap attention?

[Derka Derka]

Attack Attack!
God knows what the fuck they are, they sound like Death metal one second, to metalcore the next, to some sort of Maroon 5 cover, and then they start hopping around like crabs. Somewhere in the middle some idiot picked up the use of autotune and decided it was crunkcore. There is no crunk whatsoever in their music. Also they know how to play instruments.


lol wut?

Have you ever listened to death metal? Attack Attack comes no where near it. I'm guessing you're talkingto their brootal break downs which sound like deathcore break downs only shitter(as hard as that is to imagine)

[Cøltøn]

Attack Attack!
God knows what the fuck they are, they sound like Death metal one second, to metalcore the next, to some sort of Maroon 5 cover, and then they start hopping around like crabs. Somewhere in the middle some idiot picked up the use of autotune and decided it was crunkcore. There is no crunk whatsoever in their music. Also they know how to play instruments.
Made me lol so hard for some reason.

[ANYcore]

The Boston Phoenix described it (Crunkcore)as "a combination of minimalist Southern hip-hop, Auto-Tune croons, techno breakdowns, barked vocals, and party-til-you-puke poetics."



Crunkcore has been heavily criticised by music magazines such as Kerrang!, who called it "possibly the worst genre of music ever created."



John McDonnell, writing for The Guardian, said that crunkcore "sounds like a Chamillionaire track performed by a teenage Slipknot tribute band." He closed the article with "Oh God. I've suddenly come to my fucking senses. What was I thinking? [Crunkcore] is the worst thing to happen to music since Katie Melua's "Nine Million Bicycles" in Beijing."

Alex Gaskarth of All Time Low told mtv.com:
"There used to be that whole mentality of ... it had to be 100 percent genuine, or no one would take it seriously. But that whole line has been blurred now ... You have all these kids coming up on Disney pop who then discover bands like BrokeNCYDE, and they're like, 'Oh my God, they said fuck!,' and they fall in love instantly, because it's their version of '80s punk."
August Brown of the Los Angeles Times writes:
"The prerecorded backing tracks and juvenile misogyny of bands such as the New Mexico screamo-crunk act BrokenCYDE are affronts to traditionalist punk values." "This (sic) 'Albucrazy'-based band has done for MySpace emo what some think Soulja Boy did for hip-hop: turn their career into a kind of macro-performance art that exists so far beyond the tropes of irony and sincerity that to ask 'are they kidding?' is like trying to peel an onion to get to a perceived central core that, in the end, does not exist and renders all attempts to reassemble the pieces futile."


Yeah I didn't say Brokencyde is good in this thread.

lol wut?

Have you ever listened to death metal? Attack Attack comes no where near it. I'm guessing you're talkingto their brootal break downs which sound like deathcore break downs only shitter(as hard as that is to imagine)

Yeah they have a breakdown like every 20 seconds literally, hence one might momentarily assume they are trying to have some sort of death metal influence.

But then the influence just flies away when they do the crab hop, then start trying to c-walk to synth.

[EchoPark]

I'll wait for youhttp://www.buzzgrinder.com/images/attack_attack_crab1.jpg

[Broclee]

You care too much about subgenres.

[five inch taint]

Yeah I didn't say Brokencyde is good in this thread.



Yeah they have a breakdown like every 20 seconds literally, hence one might momentarily assume they are trying to have some sort of death metal influence.

But then the influence just flies away when they do the crab hop, then start trying to c-walk to synth.

I know you did not say Brokencyde was good.

[megatron777]

god brokencyde is horrible but thats the only "crunkcore" band i can think of all the others are something else all together

[yellowhouse]

Regardless, all of those bands are complete shit, so why waste time debating what genre they fall into?

Why waste time debating what genre good bands fall into, for that matter?

Good and bad is all that matters. Or at least, all that should matter.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

lol @ Attack Attack sounding death metal

[Yellowcard2006]

Yeah, I don't really think it matters.

[xJesusFreakx]

I almost took this thread seriously, since there were a few parts that made sense, but then you called Attack Attack! "death metal." It's hard to be taken seriously when you have the same problem you're accusing others of having.

[tyramail]

i think you should put less emphasis and importance on what genre these bands fall under.

[foisol]

Crunkcore is a retarded term just like most genre's and their names. I'm guessing they all fall under the "umbrella genre" of "crunkcore" because most of the aforementioned bands go on tour with each other (or have gone), kind of like Thursday being called "emo" because they toured with bands like Saves The Day (both awesome bands :D)

[TurbulentCo]

Everything sucks

[EvilZeppelin]

This whole thread should be deleted and not ever mentioned again.

[Smeee]

Everything sucks

Hear, hear!

[ANYcore]

lol @ Attack Attack sounding death metal

I think it is fine to assume they have some death metal/deathcore influence in (at least) on of their songs.

I've only heard one of their songs, and one of the 5295543 breakdowns does sound so.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

I think it is fine to assume they have some death metal/deathcore influence in (at least) on of their songs.

I've only heard one of their songs, and one of the 5295543 breakdowns does sound so.
deathcore =/= death metal
breakdowns =/= death metal
attack attack =/= death metal

[heroesofthepast]

crunkcore? more like FUK DIS SHIT YO

[Derka Derka]

Yeah I didn't say Brokencyde is good in this thread.



Yeah they have a breakdown like every 20 seconds literally, hence one might momentarily assume they are trying to have some sort of death metal influence.

But then the influence just flies away when they do the crab hop, then start trying to c-walk to synth.

Traditional death metal doesn't have breakdowns

[ANYcore]

deathcore =/= death metal
breakdowns =/= death metal
attack attack =/= death metal

key word is influence

[Derka Derka]

key word is influence

except death metal doesn't have any of those things, so how could you say that death metal influenced those things?

face it there is no way you're winning this argument

[sweepthenation]

Yea maybe Brokencyde is the only actual crunkcore band on there, but they all suck.

[nkalldayyy]

Okay, first thread.

Crunkcore, must say, I'm not really a fan, but I still rate it as a genre of music.

People say that crunkcore simply doesent work.

Crunk is pretty much shouted raps. If rapcore has worked in the mainstream, logically, "Crunkcore" should as well, if not better.

Now I can see where Brokencyde is coming from when they call themselves crunkcore, whilst i would still rate it as a hard rap/screamo? fusion, I think they have sexual innuendo or drugs in every one of their songs, so I will happily say it is crunkcore.

However, what does piss me off is when bands like 30H3!, Breathe Carolina, Attack Attack, The Millionaires, and Hollywood Undead are put into this.

3OH3!, they are a mainstream electronica/rap fusion. Where is the hardcore influence? Crunk? What the hell, there is barely any influence of crunk whatsoever in their music. They are a pop/electronica band that moved away from any hardcore influence long ago.

Attack Attack!
God knows what the fuck they are, they sound like Death metal/deathcore one second, to metalcore the next, to some sort of Maroon 5 cover, and then they start hopping around like crabs. Somewhere in the middle some idiot picked up the use of autotune and decided it was crunkcore. There is no crunk whatsoever in their music. Also they know how to play instruments.

The Millionaires.
Oh come on, CRUNK?, just because they act like sluts does not make them crunk. I also fail to see any hardcore punk influence on them either. If you manage to find any hardcore influence, dont mix crunk into it, call it slutcore or something.

Hollywood Undead?
Rapcore. barely any crunk influence, no autotune, some of their songs have meaning, they know how to play instruments.

Breathe Carolina?
Pretty much Electronica, with some screamo influence. I cant see any crunk.


Point of thread?
Why is there such genre confusion over these music groups, or has crunkcore pretty much become the shitcore basket?

In my opinion, any group that is considered crunkcore should have just been thrown into the rapcore basket, and people should stop trying to assort bands into certain genres just so they can criticize the genre as a whole.


Thank you :)
Ok, I agree with some of what you said (except you left out that they all make awful music) but most of it was accurate.


BUT: none of these bands are listed as "crunkcore" on their myspace pages, so I don't know where you're getting it from?

[_><_]

:-d


Seriously, who gives a shit ? It's all shitty music.

[ANYcore]

Ok, I agree with some of what you said (except you left out that they all make awful music) but most of it was accurate.


BUT: none of these bands are listed as "crunkcore" on their myspace pages, so I don't know where you're getting it from?

Not on their pages, on the pages of music critics who get all defensive about metal when the suffix "-core" gets attached to another genre, yet make ignorant naming decisions themselves.

[fly_guy]

We just need a genre called 'shit'.

[nkalldayyy]

Not on their pages, on the pages of music critics who get all defensive about metal when the suffix "-core" gets attached to another genre, yet make ignorant naming decisions themselves.

ahh, I see. I hate when people act like they know what they're talking about.

We just need a genre called 'shit'.

I'm pretty sure we have 6 or 7 unofficial ones floating around, atm.

[IWasaCamera]

Dookie

[eriatarka24]

Millionaires, slutcore! rofl

[pblest]

Everything sucks

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff173/AddictedtoOi_ep/Descendents-EverythingSucks.jpg

[TurbulentCo]

^that's how i feel 90 percent of the time. the other 10 percent I am drunk.

[CChocobo]

lolz. Time to eat pizza.

[ANYcore]

Millionaires, slutcore! rofl

Well they definitely aren't a combination of Crunk and hardcore.

I like this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4MhLI6Kvt4

[Jaimehere]

you saying that Attack Attack! sounds like Death Metal brings insult to the whole genre!

http://www.metal-invader.com/interviews/Amon_Amarth-2007-05-31/photos/Johan_Hegg_01.jpg

Johan Hegg of Amon Amarth salutes you with a middle finger :viking:

[secretsociety92]

All core bands are not musically worthy in any respect.

[Deadbolt23]

All core bands are not musically worthy in any respect.

Sweeping generalisation.

[Alex1410]

I pretty much agree.

[First Assault]

Sweeping generalisation.

I personally think Crunkcore sounds like a type of food! Its even crunker than before. Crunk all the way to the core for a delicious crunky taste!

[Deadbolt23]

I personally think Crunkcore sounds like a type of food! Its even crunker than before. Crunk all the way to the core for a delicious crunky taste!

I have no idea why you quoted me to say that. Was there a reason that I missed?

[First Assault]

I have no idea why you quoted me to say that. Was there a reason that I missed?

yeah was taking the piss out of the term CrunkCore! Like all music terms they have been produced solely to box a bunch a music together. Don't have to be so offensive!

peace out

[Deadbolt23]

yeah was taking the piss out of the term CrunkCore! Like all music terms they have been produced solely to box a bunch a music together. Don't have to be so offensive!

peace out

Yes, I know. I just didn't know why you'd said it directly to me. It confused me.
I wasn't being offensive at all. I was simply asking.

[secretsociety92]

Sweeping generalisation.
Well all are the same, play a genre and put some screaming in it.

[Deadbolt23]

Well all are the same, play a genre and put some screaming in it.

No.

Happy Hardcore? Electronic Hardcore? Nerdcore? Softcore?

[secretsociety92]

No.

Happy Hardcore? Electronic Hardcore? Nerdcore? Softcore?
Does it all have screaming in it, yes. That is as far as it goes as far as I am concerned. If I wanted to be screamed at I would piss off my parents or teachers.

[Deadbolt23]

Does it all have screaming in it, yes. That is as far as it goes as far as I am concerned. If I wanted to be screamed at I would piss off my parents or teachers.

No.

[secretsociety92]

No.
Well I highly doubt that this is a common occurence and to be honest the genre name its self isn't something I would parade around. Softcore sounds like porn shows you would get on TV.

[Deadbolt23]

All core bands are not musically worthy in any respect.

Does it all have screaming in it, yes. That is as far as it goes as far as I am concerned. If I wanted to be screamed at I would piss off my parents or teachers.

You seem to be saying that all bands with screaming in aren't musically worthy. Please tell me you aren't.

[secretsociety92]

You seem to be saying that all bands with screaming in aren't musically worthy. Please tell me you aren't.
Screaming as in unnecessary use of it or over use of it then yes. Especially when they sing normally in parts and then don't in others, too much inconsistency. Feels like stop starting in a fast car.

[ryan_hm]

Screaming incorporated correctly into music- eg Underoath- makes screaming worthwhile. When Attack Attack! or any of that other scene shite scream for screaming's sake, I press pause. As for crunkcore, I agree it doesn't necessarily require it's own sub-genre for a group of bands hastily joint together in equal levels of mediocrity. Breathe Carolina are a guilty pleasure, though.

[Thesleepingwell]

it all sucks.

Agreed.

[First Assault]

Yes, I know. I just didn't know why you'd said it directly to me. It confused me.
I wasn't being offensive at all. I was simply asking.

well thats o.k then. I agree with you then!

[First Assault]

Okay, first thread.

Crunkcore, must say, I'm not really a fan, but I still rate it as a genre of music.

People say that crunkcore simply doesent work.

Crunk is pretty much shouted raps. If rapcore has worked in the mainstream, logically, "Crunkcore" should as well, if not better.

Now I can see where Brokencyde is coming from when they call themselves crunkcore, whilst i would still rate it as a hard rap/screamo? fusion, I think they have sexual innuendo or drugs in every one of their songs, so I will happily say it is crunkcore.

However, what does piss me off is when bands like 30H3!, Breathe Carolina, Attack Attack, The Millionaires, and Hollywood Undead are put into this.

3OH3!, they are a mainstream electronica/rap fusion. Where is the hardcore influence? Crunk? What the hell, there is barely any influence of crunk whatsoever in their music. They are a pop/electronica band that moved away from any hardcore influence long ago.

Attack Attack!
God knows what the fuck they are, they sound like deathcore one second, to metalcore the next, to some sort of Maroon 5 cover, and then they start hopping around like crabs. Somewhere in the middle some idiot picked up the use of autotune and decided it was crunkcore. There is no crunk whatsoever in their music. Also they know how to play instruments.

The Millionaires.
Oh come on, CRUNK?, just because they act like sluts does not make them crunk. I also fail to see any hardcore punk influence on them either. If you manage to find any hardcore influence, dont mix crunk into it, call it slutcore or something.

Hollywood Undead?
Rapcore. barely any crunk influence, no autotune, some of their songs have meaning, they know how to play instruments.

Breathe Carolina?
Pretty much Electronica, with some screamo influence. I cant see any crunk.


Point of thread?
Why is there such genre confusion over these music groups, or has crunkcore pretty much become the shitcore basket?

In my opinion, any group that is considered crunkcore should have just been thrown into the rapcore basket, and people should stop trying to assort bands into certain genres just so they can criticize the genre as a whole.


Thank you :)

Do you reckon that you might just have too much time on your hands to really both moaning about something so pointless? I have never heard of CrunkCore up till now or any of these bands! Why not just listen to different type of music instead. There is loads of good authentic, honest music out there! Plus the only one to ever really pull off the screaming in the first place was Kurt Cobain rest his soul!

[ANYcore]

Do you reckon that you might just have too much time on your hands to really both moaning about something so pointless? I have never heard of CrunkCore up till now or any of these bands! Why not just listen to different type of music instead. There is loads of good authentic, honest music out there! Plus the only one to ever really pull off the screaming in the first place was Kurt Cobain rest his soul!

I listen to a wider variety of music than most people do.

Time on my hands? Come on, this whole forum is "moaning about something so pointless" if you really want to think of it.

[aradiantsunrise]

:yawn:

[First Assault]

I listen to a wider variety of music than most people do.

Time on my hands? Come on, this whole forum is "moaning about something so pointless" if you really want to think of it.

I see! You are much wiser than me! I bow to you master

[Thesleepingwell]

I think it is fine to assume they have some death metal/deathcore influence in (at least) on of their songs.

I've only heard one of their songs, and one of the 5295543 breakdowns does sound so.

Influence was probably Trivium. Though in their defence they better than Attack Attack and their shitty brand of Crabcore.
Listen to some more heavier shit if you like it. Biomechanical, Zyklon and The Beserker are recommended.

[crimes]

all bands i wouldn't waste any time listening to. (excluding attack attack!)
that's what crunkcore is.

[blissfulrain]

Alex Gaskarth of All Time Low told mtv.com:
"There used to be that whole mentality of ... it had to be 100 percent genuine, or no one would take it seriously. But that whole line has been blurred now ... You have all these kids coming up on Disney pop who then discover bands like BrokeNCYDE, and they're like, 'Oh my God, they said fuck!,' and they fall in love instantly, because it's their version of '80s punk."
I just got a lot of respect for him.

[ANYcore]

Influence was probably Trivium. Though in their defence they better than Attack Attack and their shitty brand of Crabcore.
Listen to some more heavier shit if you like it. Biomechanical, Zyklon and The Beserker are recommended.

I like The Berserker (Y)

not really into heavy (death) metal in general though.

If I do give it a listen to anything deathy itld have to be melodic / deathcore / horrorcore

[DSmolken]

I think this is crunkcore.

Fet40KV7OIc

You got rapping with a hoarse voice, references to alcohol and sex, and a bit of screamo influence. That counts, right? Even if it's a little different because there are no guitars or synths.

[ANYcore]

I think this is crunkcore.

Fet40KV7OIc

You got rapping with a hoarse voice, references to alcohol and sex, and a bit of screamo influence. That counts, right? Even if it's a little different because there are no guitars or synths.

lmaoo, its ermm, unique

[DSmolken]

Heh, we're not really trying to be unique.

The thing about crunkcore is that it's such a loosely defined genre; in practice it's basically anyone with danceable beats, lyrics about partying and sex, and at least occasional use of autotune who has a few scene fans. Screaming and rapping help but don't really seem to be necessary.

[catherinexhimel]

The only crunkcore bands I like are I Set My Friends On Fire and Family Force Five.

[DSmolken]

The only crunkcore bands I like are I Set My Friends On Fire and Family Force Five.
Being from Houston, you might like Goatbomb 'cause they do covers of Texas country songs by ppl like Kevin Fowler, Chuck Allen Floyd, Miranda Lambert etc. Or you might just hate Goatbomb even more because they do covers of Texas country songs!

Probably the latter, LOL.

[TheVsed]

i agree that breathe carolina and attack attack shouldnt be thrown in there

[DSmolken]

i agree that breathe carolina and attack attack shouldnt be thrown in there
Attack Attack! definitely have little in common with crunkcore, other than the fact that they share many of the same haters.

[catherinexhimel]

Being from Houston, you might like Goatbomb 'cause they do covers of Texas country songs by ppl like Kevin Fowler, Chuck Allen Floyd, Miranda Lambert etc. Or you might just hate Goatbomb even more because they do covers of Texas country songs!

Probably the latter, LOL.



I don't like Goatbomb at all, actually.

[DSmolken]

That's all right, it seems to appeal mainly to fans of pop and commercial hip-hop. A few country fans like it too.

[ANYcore]

lmaoo, its ermm, unique

Well by definition it would be a combination of Crunk and Hardcore elements :P

What you have there is definitely similar, but much different to the whole Brokencyde/Dot Dot Curve sort of thing :)

[DSmolken]

Ain't hard to be unique in a genre which is fairly new, loosely defined, and doesn't have that many bands.

[ANYcore]

Ain't hard to be unique in a genre which is fairly new, loosely defined, and doesn't have that many bands.

true, i've seen a couple tracks floating around that you would still define as crunkcore, but considerably different to brokencyde.

[DSmolken]

As long as you've got some autotune, some rapping, and a little screaming...

I'm not sure if this newer track is crunkcore, though. It's got hoarse rapping, but no screamo-sounding screaming, and natural-sounding sung vocals with no autotune or other effects...

l0q6u0OKaIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0q6u0OKaIA)

[dkloom]

All core bands are not musically worthy in any respect.


:uhno:

[de1337ed]

I have a guilty pleasure for dotdotcurve, just saying.