I miss the old scene.

[SmallFrailBoy]

Things I miss about the old scene...

http://dailyriffage.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/whatswrongwithkids/

[mattmatumbo]

Kids stopped doing drugs, that's what happened.

Edit: Never mind, they're still reading Twilight.

[bard]

all music "scenes" suck.

just listen to what you like.

just dress in what you like.

who cares about appearance/attitude/etc...?

[x togepi x]

all music scenes do not suck.

[bard]

what i mean is:

dressing a certain way, adopting certain "personality traits", listening to certain artists, etc... just to "fit" in a stupid scene, music or otherwise, is retarded.

[Mibabalou]

bad music has always been made


im just looking for grunge to come back

[SmallFrailBoy]

Yeah... but the bands and people that make up certain scenes don't suck.

[KingsCrossing]

inb4 "I MISS DRIVE THU RECORDSSSSSSSS"

[x togepi x]

what i mean is:

dressing a certain way, adopting certain "personality traits", listening to certain artists, etc... just to "fit" in a stupid scene, music or otherwise, is retarded.

i'm fairly certain if you wear clothing at all that you do this yourself.

[Chromefox]

Move on.

[SmallFrailBoy]

inb4 "I MISS DRIVE THU RECORDSSSSSSSS"

Hahahaha, oh yeah... it's gonna go there.

[saysmydoctor]

Uhm.

[bard]

i'm fairly certain if you wear clothing at all that you do this yourself.
not if you just dress the way you want. you know, to be comfortable with your appearance....

you're digging too deep on this.

[guitarpickheart]

i'm fairly certain if you wear clothing at all that you do this yourself.

Agreed.

[silentstar1134]

all music "scenes" suck.

just listen to what you like.

just dress in what you like.

who cares about appearance/attitude/etc...?

I actually agree with this. I think it also depends on what kind of crew you hang out with and all that too. And from the article, I also agree that SOME (not all) "Hipster Indie" kids are one of the worst when it comes to this kind of stuff. JUST an example: If I say I prefer The Killers to Animal Collective some people might look at me like I just professed all my love and devotion to brokencyde. Oh well...

[bard]

I actually agree with this. I think it also depends on what kind of crew you hang out with and all that too. And from the article, I also agree that SOME (not all) "Hipster Indie" kids are one of the worst when it comes to this kind of stuff. JUST an example: If I say I prefer The Killers to Animal Collective some people might look at me like I just professed all my love and devotion to brokencyde. Oh well...
exactly.

i mean, i'm always down for messing with people who like "crappy" bands or whatever, but i actually don't care about it. i just listen to what i like, and not care if i look hipster/goth/metal/indie/etc...

i look like a normal dude. i just wear what i like. the only way you'd be able to tell what i like to listen to is if i'm wearing a band t-shirt, which isn't even all that often.

[Regards]

People your age said the same thing about "their scene" when you were 16.

[x togepi x]

at least kids now are having fun instead of pretending they're super depressed.

[x togepi x]

not if you just dress the way you want. you know, to be comfortable with your appearance....

you're digging too deep on this.

I bet you don't wear a skirt for cultural reasons.

[SmallFrailBoy]

at least kids now are having fun instead of pretending they're super depressed.

Just a bunch of kids wearing neon, listening to crunk core and trying to get some assplay.

[silentstar1134]

exactly.

i mean, i'm always down for messing with people who like "crappy" bands or whatever, but i actually don't care about it. i just listen to what i like, and not care if i look hipster/goth/metal/indie/etc...

i look like a normal dude. i just wear what i like. the only way you'd be able to tell what i like to listen to is if i'm wearing a band t-shirt, which isn't even all that often.

Yea, and on the same side of the coin it can work with "bands" like brokencyde etc...The point is that there will always be a new "scene" or in thing but just be cool with other people and their musical tastes. Its allright to rip on people for their tastes in good fun, but when someone feels they are "superior" because they like a great band, than I feel sorry for those kinda people. If people wanna make the new "scene" let them, if it makes them feel like they are part of something than thats great. But its only for a short period of time.

[x togepi x]

Just a bunch of kids wearing neon, listening to crunk core and trying to get some assplay.

as opposed to a bunch of kids wearing all black and talking about how depressed they are?

i wasn't saying the music was perfect, or even good, i'm just saying.

[sweepthenation]

I liked that article. And holy Lol at "thats what happens when good bands go bad" in reference to Saporta doing Cobra Starship

[abcdefghijake]

the irony

[SmallFrailBoy]

as opposed to a bunch of kids wearing all black and talking about how depressed they are?

i wasn't saying the music was perfect, or even good, i'm just saying.

I understand. And for the most part, I can agree with you. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
But you really gotta ask yourself - is the scene today really a lesser evil than the others?

You gotta admit, some of the deplorable things you hear about the idiots in the bands these days is pretty disparaging. I think that a lot of these bands are marketed towards young girls (and I think the bands generally do that on purpose: see my other article (http://dailyriffage.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/now_vs_then/)). And I think that's why i think less of the scene today is about the music and more about some douchebags running around in vans raping underage girls. (ahem! Blood on the Dance Floor!)

[x togepi x]

I understand. And for the most part, I can agree with you. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
But you really gotta ask yourself - is the scene today really a lesser evil than the others?

You gotta admit, some of the deplorable things you hear about the idiots in the bands these days is pretty disparaging. I think that a lot of these bands are marketed towards young girls (and I think the bands generally do that on purpose: see my other article (http://dailyriffage.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/now_vs_then/)). And I think that's why i think less of the scene today is about the music and more about some douchebags running around in vans raping underage girls. (ahem! Blood on the Dance Floor!)

There has always been sketchy dudes in bands. I mean, it was pretty common in the scene you're glorifying to write songs dissing your ex girlfriends. That's pretty sexist. I love it when someone here rants about the evils of brokencyde while jocking the shit out of glassjaw. this shit has been happening for years. it's terrible, but you can't really say the new stuff is terrible while ignoring that it was just as common in the old stuff.

[silentstar1134]

There has always been sketchy dudes in bands. I mean, it was pretty common in the scene you're glorifying to write songs dissing your ex girlfriends. That's pretty sexist. I love it when someone here rants about the evils of brokencyde while jocking the shit out of glassjaw. this shit has been happening for years. it's terrible, but you can't really say the new stuff is terrible while ignoring that it was just as common in the old stuff.

Yea i have to agree with this unfortunately. The only difference is that bands like Brokencyde take pride in this kind of shit. It would be something of almost taboo to talk about in the "old scene". It has been happening for quite some time now. Something should be done about it, but it doesn't mean it will.

[IntoTheSun]

the irony

yup.

It's all about percpective anyway.

[saysmydoctor]

There has always been sketchy dudes in bands. I mean, it was pretty common in the scene you're glorifying to write songs dissing your ex girlfriends. That's pretty sexist. I love it when someone here rants about the evils of brokencyde while jocking the shit out of glassjaw. this shit has been happening for years. it's terrible, but you can't really say the new stuff is terrible while ignoring that it was just as common in the old stuff.
I think this is unfair. I don't know what scene is really being discussed here, but if I'd like to think regardless, a lot of men aren't 'dissing their exgirlfriends in any way they wouldn't expect to be reciprocated if they did something that would provoke the dissing. I hope that makes sense. I'm just saying, I don't think a lot of men are writing these songs with a sexist intent.

[Regards]

at least kids now are having fun instead of pretending they're super depressed.
yahtzee

[anthonydarko]

I'd rather endure a scene of kids enjoying themselves versus a scene of kids writing bad poetry and acting like their youthful problems are the worst thing ever.

[xJesusFreakx]

I "miss" the old scene, too, though that might not be the right term. I didn't start listening to these bands until about two years ago (or another year or two before that if you count my Tooth and Nail days), and I've come to really enjoy that scene from the first half of our decade, so I'd love to go back and experience that instead of the neon breakdown scene we have now.

At the same time, it seems like people have a tendency to romanticize trends they find nostalgia in and demonize the new trends that take their place. I like my trends; you like yours, they like theirs. That's just the way it works. I bet there were people who scoffed at your trends, too. It's just part of life. Let people like what they like, and move on.

[bard]

I bet you don't wear a skirt for cultural reasons.
no, i just don't crossdress.

[xJesusFreakx]

no, i just don't crossdress.

Isn't that a "cultural reason"?

[bard]

Isn't that a "cultural reason"?
not for me. i don't like to wear women's clothes.

are we really arguing this?

[x togepi x]

Yea i have to agree with this unfortunately. The only difference is that bands like Brokencyde take pride in this kind of shit. It would be something of almost taboo to talk about in the "old scene". It has been happening for quite some time now. Something should be done about it, but it doesn't mean it will.

The only reason you say they take pride in it is because you like the old bands. It was essentially the same.

I think this is unfair. I don't know what scene is really being discussed here, but if I'd like to think regardless, a lot of men aren't 'dissing their exgirlfriends in any way they wouldn't expect to be reciprocated if they did something that would provoke the dissing. I hope that makes sense. I'm just saying, I don't think a lot of men are writing these songs with a sexist intent.

intent doesn't matter. like maybe daryl from glassjaw didn't think saying "you can lead a whore to water" was sexist and was meant to be highly specific but that doesn't change that it's sexist rhetoric. I'd contend that a lot of sexist/racist things could have been said with harmless intent but that doesn't change the fact that they're whatever-ist

I'd rather endure a scene of kids enjoying themselves versus a scene of kids writing bad poetry and acting like their youthful problems are the worst thing ever.

yeah. it's incredibly patronizing to those who actually have mental illnesses and only adds to the stigma those people have to endure.

no, i just don't crossdress.

thanks for proving my point.

shit, the fact that you don't walk around naked or at least shirtless proves it.

[anamericangod]

It's dead in case you haven't heard.

[SmallFrailBoy]

It's dead in case you haven't heard.

R.I.P.
We had a good run of it.

[briewer]

People who listen to old shitty music complaining about people who listen to new shitty music. Woof.

[briewer]

Oh, and Animal Collective have been popular for a solid decade. That's a brand you can invest in.

[anamericangod]

Oh, and Animal Collective have been popular for a solid decade. That's a brand you can invest in.

Animal Collective is fucking terrible.

[SmallFrailBoy]

Animal Collective is fucking terrible.

This.

Noise in a big room with lots of reverb! Revolutionary!

[x togepi x]

This.

Noise in a big room with lots of reverb! Revolutionary!

You have no idea what noise is.

[SmallFrailBoy]

You have no idea what noise is.

i'll show you noise!
www.myspace.com/analcunt

[briewer]

Animal Collective is fucking terrible.
Yeah... no.

[roughroads]

You adhere to a set of standards and tastes that appear to be determined by an unseen panel hipster judges (BULLSHIT!)

[briewer]

What?

[JoeJealousy]

the internet and technology has killed the scene... its too easy for a bunch of kids to learn 3 chords (given they start with an instrument) record with some pirated software and post it online. then download a torrent for a cracked friendbot and pester millions to check them out. I get the whole internet/myspace/facebook thing and think it has done great things for bands and music in general. I mean my band has benefited greatly from the internet, and i personally have been exposed to some awesome music as well. But it has over saturated things and great bands get lumped in with the crap. I remember when i first got a myspace and used to check out every band that sent me a request. Nowadays i get about 25 requests and dont bother checking any of them out, even though im prolly missing out on a few great bands here and there. More so i remember the excitement when people would play me a cd in their car and be stoked on being able to introduce me to that band. Thats what i miss the most... the passion that was in word of mouth distro. I can remember exactly where i was when i first heard Tell All Your Friends, Your Favorite Weapon, Take This To Your Grave, and NFG'S s/t just to name a few just because of the passion the person introducing me to them had, and the excitement they expressed in being the one to tell me.

on a bright side i do see the rumblings of a strong new wave of pop-punk coming that has tons of sincerity and heart in it and i am excited to see what happens the next few years as i get to watch it grow.

[xJesusFreakx]

I don't like Animal Collective. :shrug:

[Yellowcard2006]

Long Live the scene!

[saveferris]

I often wonder what the older punk fans were saying about me and my friends when we praised NFG and Blink and wore Atticus shirts and Dickies.

[saveferris]

the internet and technology has killed the scene... its too easy for a bunch of kids to learn 3 chords (given they start with an instrument) record with some pirated software and post it online. then download a torrent for a cracked friendbot and pester millions to check them out. I get the whole internet/myspace/facebook thing and think it has done great things for bands and music in general. I mean my band has benefited greatly from the internet, and i personally have been exposed to some awesome music as well. But it has over saturated things and great bands get lumped in with the crap. I remember when i first got a myspace and used to check out every band that sent me a request. Nowadays i get about 25 requests and dont bother checking any of them out, even though im prolly missing out on a few great bands here and there. More so i remember the excitement when people would play me a cd in their car and be stoked on being able to introduce me to that band. Thats what i miss the most... the passion that was in word of mouth distro. I can remember exactly where i was when i first heard Tell All Your Friends, Your Favorite Weapon, Take This To Your Grave, and NFG'S s/t just to name a few just because of the passion the person introducing me to them had, and the excitement they expressed in being the one to tell me.

on a bright side i do see the rumblings of a strong new wave of pop-punk coming that has tons of sincerity and heart in it and i am excited to see what happens the next few years as i get to watch it grow.
Me too.

[kearn1tm]

intent doesn't matter. like maybe daryl from glassjaw didn't think saying "you can lead a whore to water" was sexist and was meant to be highly specific but that doesn't change that it's sexist rhetoric. I'd contend that a lot of sexist/racist things could have been said with harmless intent but that doesn't change the fact that they're whatever-ist

Thanks for posting this, as it's something most don't take into account. Regardless of intent, Palumbo is very much the product of western social hiearchy, inasmuch as he's absorbed and regurgitated the rhetorical abuse of women from someone of greater social power/standing (white, heterosexual male - Daryl).


yeah. it's incredibly patronizing to those who actually have mental illnesses and only adds to the stigma those people have to endure.
This is also true. By feigning and exploiting actual mental illness for novelty purposes/image, it trivializes the conditions and perpetuates the erroneous perceptions of those who actually suffer from the conditions (or, don't "suffer" but then, the medical community defines many conditions as "illnesses" which also perpetuates the idea that they're inherently bad and the people who have them are deviant and sick, but I digress). I've never seen this brought up here and it's great that it has.

[GlassyLight]

the internet and technology has killed the scene... its too easy for a bunch of kids to learn 3 chords (given they start with an instrument) record with some pirated software and post it online. then download a torrent for a cracked friendbot and pester millions to check them out. I get the whole internet/myspace/facebook thing and think it has done great things for bands and music in general. I mean my band has benefited greatly from the internet, and i personally have been exposed to some awesome music as well. But it has over saturated things and great bands get lumped in with the crap. I remember when i first got a myspace and used to check out every band that sent me a request. Nowadays i get about 25 requests and dont bother checking any of them out, even though im prolly missing out on a few great bands here and there. More so i remember the excitement when people would play me a cd in their car and be stoked on being able to introduce me to that band. Thats what i miss the most... the passion that was in word of mouth distro. I can remember exactly where i was when i first heard Tell All Your Friends, Your Favorite Weapon, Take This To Your Grave, and NFG'S s/t just to name a few just because of the passion the person introducing me to them had, and the excitement they expressed in being the one to tell me.

on a bright side i do see the rumblings of a strong new wave of pop-punk coming that has tons of sincerity and heart in it and i am excited to see what happens the next few years as i get to watch it grow.

Really?

I give you:

Count the Stars
Logan Square
5 Days Ahead
Keepsake
Plain White Ts
The Transplants

and any other number of shitty, derivative pop-punk bands that arose in the wake of Take Off Your Pants and Jacket. Not to mention that blink-182 made their name off of three chords and selling an image of pierced lips, flat brimmed hats, and atticus clothing.

A great man once said "People act like 'back in the day when we were young' was better - and they're right. But they're also wrong...the day wasn't good, being young was good. It's the same thing as people in their late thirties saying 'This music is shit! Back in my day we had stuff like Molly Hatchet and .38 Special!'".

Face it, we're getting older. Bitching about how music is shitty now and was better is the most cliche thing someone getting older can do. Enjoy what you want, fuck the rest.

[SmallFrailBoy]

Face it, we're getting older. Bitching about how music is shitty now and was better is the most cliche thing someone getting older can do. Enjoy what you want, fuck the rest.

I definitely agree with that. Funny, growing up, you never think you'll be so square or set in your ways that you bitch about the next generation. The past 10-15 years has seen a pretty substantial shift in the scene though - and probably a lot of that has to do with the way people get information and exposure to new bands. With the internet, there's just a lot more out there than ever before and we tend to churn through them faster because of that. There are just as many "awful" bands out there building fanbases as there are "good" bands (taste is relative).

Still... you can't tell me that sometimes you don't look around at the direction younger bands are generally trending and think "What the fuck?"

[x togepi x]

kids, there were shitty trends before the internet. it's a function of our mass culture.

[SmallFrailBoy]

But Amen to being young... And pissed off... And confused. And having a scene to belong to.

There's really nothing like hitting up a good punk rock show... or picking up a guitar, starting a band and playing one.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

Yeah... but the bands and people that make up certain scenes don't suck.

i miss it too man. but it ain't coming back.

[IntoTheSun]

I "miss" the old scene, too, though that might not be the right term. I didn't start listening to these bands until about two years ago (or another year or two before that if you count my Tooth and Nail days), and I've come to really enjoy that scene from the first half of our decade, so I'd love to go back and experience that instead of the neon breakdown scene we have now.

At the same time, it seems like people have a tendency to romanticize trends they find nostalgia in and demonize the new trends that take their place. I like my trends; you like yours, they like theirs. That's just the way it works. I bet there were people who scoffed at your trends, too. It's just part of life. Let people like what they like, and move on.

This.

[xJesusFreakx]

kids, there were shitty trends before the internet. it's a function of our mass culture.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NKMPSY29L._SS500_.jpg

[theguy77]

i was a big fan of the old scene. still partial to a few bands. the music sounded more honest to me though that doesnt necessarily mean that it was; the point people are making about melodramatizing issues that were rather juvenile and commonplace, and trivializing the concept of depressant-oriented psychological disorders, is valid and could in itself be seen as immensely dishonest. but in my case, i never participated in that, i just put on a simple brand-name or band-name black shirt and skate shoes and enjoyed the combination of energy, emotion, and youth appeal in the music. it was never about pretending i was depressed, more so just liking the way the lyrics seemed "clever" and relating in a very simple way to songs like taking back sunday's "bike scene" (but never to anything that talked about cutting wrists or suicide and the like). i liked how bands were able to incorporate melodic hardcore, post-hardcore, and midwestmo influences into a more pop-sensible and youthful template, creating a relatively diverse form of what i [incorrectly] perceived to be "punk" music, which also appealed to me emotionally. then eventually it became less about those influences, "clever" (see: gimmicky one-liner) lyrics, and expression of relatable emotion, and more about just the energy and the sugary melodies, and i never participated in that beyond fall out boy's first two albums; not one of the other fueled by ramen bands appealed to me in even any short-term fashion, let alone the fact that i always hated bands like all time low. it's not so much a problem for me anymore becuase my tastes have changed anyway and that original scene of music doesnt impact me like it used to, but i do marginalize that breed of scene music when compared to the new shit.

[acemvivere]

"Scenes" will change, and eventually, they will die. The problem isn't so much about scenes changing, and more about people refusing to let the good times remain in memory alone, and beating a dead horse again and again and again.

And once more for good measure, until the next big thing appears.

Each time a dying genre is dragged out, it just gets worse and worse.

[SmallFrailBoy]

"Scenes" will change, and eventually, they will die. The problem isn't so much about scenes changing, and more about people refusing to let the good times remain in memory alone, and beating a dead horse again and again and again.

And once more for good measure, until the next big thing appears.

Each time a dying genre is dragged out, it just gets worse and worse.

So at age 17, you're really familiar with watching genres burn bright and die out.

Sorry, that wasn't fair.

I'm probably in the "older" group of people who visit this site... so i'm one of those guys that finds myself saying "they sure don't make 'em like they used to" every once in a while... And it startles me. But in all honesty - there are some really awful young bands getting hype today. Forever the Sickest Kids, the Maine, All Time Low. Not that 90s punk was chock full of substance - but bands weren't putting on a fashion show.

[GlassyLight]

I definitely agree with that. Funny, growing up, you never think you'll be so square or set in your ways that you bitch about the next generation. The past 10-15 years has seen a pretty substantial shift in the scene though - and probably a lot of that has to do with the way people get information and exposure to new bands. With the internet, there's just a lot more out there than ever before and we tend to churn through them faster because of that. There are just as many "awful" bands out there building fanbases as there are "good" bands (taste is relative).

Still... you can't tell me that sometimes you don't look around at the direction younger bands are generally trending and think "What the fuck?"

Oh, of course. I don't understand the wave of Post-Cartel pop-punk at all. There's absolutely nothing I can find to like about it. Same thing goes with the attack attack!-esque shit. The only good thing to come out of that is the Macho Man remix.

I mean, I honestly don't understand why anyone likes that band. I may not like Cartel, but I can understand why people like them. Not so with AA!.

But, then again, I look back at what the older crowd may have thought of the stuff I cut my teeth on. I grew up in western iowa and had the fortune of lax parents, allowing me to see the early days of saddle creek. Can't tell you how many anti-gay slurs were hurled at the Faint when they would open for whatever terrible semi-local band (Pomeroy, anyone) was playing. Also can't imagine what the early-80's punks thought of Green Day, NOFX, Offspring, Goldfinger, etc.

I love 'em anyway.

[theguy77]

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[LendMeYourBrain]

Full Collapse is a great example of music 8 years ago. I used to listen to that and it would give me chills. Now nothing is like that, I donno if it was because I was 12 but its not the same for me now

[nkalldayyy]

there are some scenes that suck terribly, but there always have been. In the 90s it was rap, boy bands, and the "pop star" phase. Now we have "crunkcore" and "crabcore" and every other genre created after an unnecessary dance move.


we should just be grateful for the good music we have ATM.
such as: city and colour and death cab for cutie. :nod:

[theguy77]

there are some scenes that suck terribly, but there always have been. In the 90s it was rap, boy bands, and the "pop star" phase. Now we have "crunkcore" and "crabcore" and every other genre created after an unnecessary dance move.


we should just be grateful for the good music we have ATM.
such as: city and colour and death cab for cutie. :nod:

whoa, you seriously didnt have a bold name like 2 days ago. congrats. now i get to see natalie portman in all her gorgeousness more clearly :-d

[wroteurname]

bad music has always been made


im just looking for grunge to come back

http://convergencereview.files.wordpress.c om/2009/09/brand-new-daisy-artwork.jpg

[nkalldayyy]

whoa, you seriously didnt have a bold name like 2 days ago. congrats. now i get to see natalie portman in all her gorgeousness more clearly :-d
hahaha! yeah today was my first day :wave:
thanks a lot!

natalie portman/padme is my motivation <3

[x togepi x]

lol

THIS MUSIC IS BAD I WANT GRUNGE BACK.


as if that wasn't just bullshit all around too.

[mrnegativezero]

Best part of that site :


You know what I miss about the punk rawk scene? The opportunity it provided for normal 38 year old guys such as myself to grope and (if you were really shifty and the pit was really dark) suckle anonymous crowd surfers. These days, those strangers are there with their parents, and those killjoys are watching like hawks. Trust me.
Memories….in the corner of my mind…..

But really, I'm apart of the "new" scene, and I can't say I like it so much.

[nkalldayyy]

Best part of that site :



But really, I'm apart of the "new" scene, and I can't say I like it so much.
for some reason I feel like everyone aware of the change of "scene-ery" (bad joke... lol) hates the new one. everyone else is just oblivious.

[acemvivere]

So at age 17, you're really familiar with watching genres burn bright and die out.

Sorry, that wasn't fair.

I'm probably in the "older" group of people who visit this site... so i'm one of those guys that finds myself saying "they sure don't make 'em like they used to" every once in a while... And it startles me. But in all honesty - there are some really awful young bands getting hype today. Forever the Sickest Kids, the Maine, All Time Low. Not that 90s punk was chock full of substance - but bands weren't putting on a fashion show.

Apologies if I sound conceited.

But age has very little to do with music as a whole. At the age of 15, you could very well realize that most of the bands out there today, if not all, are absolute shit compared to music by the Jimi Hendrix Experience, Derek and the Dominoes, etc. Some things have very little to do with time itself, but just the general trend.

Music doesn't necessarily get better with age, after all. It's not like it's just lost and fades away, you can always go back and listen to older songs whenever you want, thanks to the internet, CDs, LPs, tapes, w/e. So can a guy who's 17 perhaps make an opinionated statement on "genres burning bright and dying out"? Yeah, he probably could.

[LendMeYourBrain]

I miss early 90's movies with futuristic leather jacket wearing gangs

[AP_Punk]

yeah, and back then i wasn't so addicted to the internet like i am nowadays.

shits.

[keviekaotic]

^ Likes this post...?

[kearn1tm]

Lame videos

No Tell That Mick [...], no care.

[theguy77]

No Tell That Mick [...], no care.

you adults just dont understand us.

[Burn That Shit]

i miss jiffy pop

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_b0uLKyVAGrs/Sn-5pk3pSQI/AAAAAAAABMc/oKN0U_kvrmc/s400/La+Push59+-+Jiffy+Pop.JPG

[kearn1tm]

Never trust a big butt and a smile

Agreed.

[SmallFrailBoy]

Apologies if I sound conceited.

But age has very little to do with music as a whole. At the age of 15, you could very well realize that most of the bands out there today, if not all, are absolute shit compared to music by the Jimi Hendrix Experience, Derek and the Dominoes, etc. Some things have very little to do with time itself, but just the general trend.

Music doesn't necessarily get better with age, after all. It's not like it's just lost and fades away, you can always go back and listen to older songs whenever you want, thanks to the internet, CDs, LPs, tapes, w/e. So can a guy who's 17 perhaps make an opinionated statement on "genres burning bright and dying out"? Yeah, he probably could.

Sorry - my first comment about being 17 probably sounded really snide. The entire statement wasn't about "listening to the music" - although that was part of it. I was talking about being a part of that scene. Suffice it to say that at 12 years old, without an extremely cool mom, you probably weren't out at the local VFW on weekends. I'm not trying to rip you. In fact I think what I think I'm trying to say is that I am upset that you can't experience that scene because parts of it that are left today are so skewed from it.

[Paulb-182]

I can honestly say, I don't really miss the old scene at all. The bands were much much better back then in what this so called scene is, but really, all the original ones that bought me into the scene who have stuck around have generally gotten shit. Alkaline Trio, Less Than Jake, New Found Glory and numerous others just do nothing for me anymore. It's not like I'm going to come out and be some pretentious prick like I know some people can be when speaking about the older scene, but generally speaking I don't listen to any of the bands from this scene I liked when I was 14 anymore. I've always been kind of outside this scene as I'm English and have always had a major love for Oasis, Nirvana and Radiohead for as long as I can remember over any of the other bands I just mentioned. Blink were pretty much the only band I've ever really loved from this scene really. I can't say I miss hearing things like American Hi-Fi and Bowling For Soup..

[SmallFrailBoy]

I can honestly say, I don't really miss the old scene at all. The bands were much much better back then in what this so called scene is, but really, all the original ones that bought me into the scene who have stuck around have generally gotten shit. Alkaline Trio, Less Than Jake, New Found Glory and numerous others just do nothing for me anymore. It's not like I'm going to come out and be some pretentious prick like I know some people can be when speaking about the older scene, but generally speaking I don't listen to any of the bands from this scene I liked when I was 14 anymore. I've always been kind of outside this scene as I'm English and have always had a major love for Oasis, Nirvana and Radiohead for as long as I can remember over any of the other bands I just mentioned. Blink were pretty much the only band I've ever really loved from this scene really. I can't say I miss hearing things like American Hi-Fi and Bowling For Soup..

Bands get older and put out bad records - it happens. Not saying I want Reel Big Fish to put out the same album again for the 6th time, but I wouldn't mind if some new young bands with some heart stepped in to fill the shoes of the really great bands that broke up.

Bands like the Gaslight Anthem or the Swellers or even Paramore have stepped up their game though. I wish more bands had that passion for the music.

[alexa_ATL]

a "Scene" doesn't exists. it's a fad, if anything. there are genre's and there is always that one genre that reigns supreme for sometime, then they crash. scene's a shitty word to use for undulating music trends. i feel like the word "scene" is just such a misnomer

[blebbio]

lol

[SmallFrailBoy]

a "Scene" doesn't exists. it's a fad, if anything. there are genre's and there is always that one genre that reigns supreme for sometime, then they crash. scene's a shitty word to use for undulating music trends. i feel like the word "scene" is just such a misnomer

Ugg boots are a fad.
The scene is made up of the people who support a genre. I don't think you can make a claim that "scene's don't exist" just because genres change over time. Music might be a trend but it sticks around long enough to gain a following or people who genuinely care about it.

[Until The Bombs]

Reminiscing about he past is fine, but this and anyone who gets hung up on "how much better thing used to be" is just sad.

[acemvivere]

Sorry - my first comment about being 17 probably sounded really snide. The entire statement wasn't about "listening to the music" - although that was part of it. I was talking about being a part of that scene. Suffice it to say that at 12 years old, without an extremely cool mom, you probably weren't out at the local VFW on weekends. I'm not trying to rip you. In fact I think what I think I'm trying to say is that I am upset that you can't experience that scene because parts of it that are left today are so skewed from it.

I get what you're saying, and for the most part, I agree. The scene today, is a hollow shell of what it once was. If you look hard enough, you can still find music with a bit of style, a bit of originality, and a bit of soul. You just need to head to the outskirts.

And yeah, you're right, when I was 12, I had no interest in the modern "scene", I had a membership to the Lonely Hearts Club.

[Cuddleworthy]

"When is the last time you saw someone walking around wearing an Animal Collective t-shirt? You know why you can’t think of one? Because indie bands are the most disposable kind. That shirt would be out of style by the time you washed it. Indie albums have a life cycle of about 2 weeks."

or because animal collective doesn't make shirts. what a dumb fucking tool

[andresr200]

such an overplayed speech

[x togepi x]

you kids are going to love it, in decades, when this scene is trashed like hair metal was.

[anthonydarko]

a "Scene" doesn't exists. it's a fad, if anything. there are genre's and there is always that one genre that reigns supreme for sometime, then they crash. scene's a shitty word to use for undulating music trends. i feel like the word "scene" is just such a misnomer
But they don't fade away.......

[samsara]

yes

[theguy77]

you kids are going to love it, in decades, when this scene is trashed like hair metal was.

i dont know that the "scene" (as i define it, anyway) was big enough to even be remembered in the future until recently.

[theguy77]

sometimes i look back nostalgically on this scene of music, and miss it. but then i put david bowie on and that goes away. :shrug: much better way of living in the past.

[x togepi x]

i dont know that the "scene" (as i define it, anyway) was big enough to even be remembered in the future until recently.

sure it is. hawthorne heights and fall out boy have platinum records.

[theguy77]

sure it is. hawthorne heights and fall out boy have platinum records.

true. hawthorne heights was always shitty to me and i only thought fall out boy's music was good when they were a couple of dorky kids, but there's no doubt they're associated with the same group of bands.

[Lizae]

I remember when Blink came out I lamented them as poppy bullshit. Then I saw them live - Bad Religion was the opener and there was no comparison. They were poppy bullshit, and Bad Religion killed them. I'm only a year older than you, so I was not trashing a new scene, just noticing the crappiness of this band that was somehow wildly popular. I get what you're saying, but I don't think holding Blink 182 up as a paragon of all things punk is the way to say it.

[Chrisj182]

If "scene" is listening to new music, and not being hung up on too many older albums, then yeah, I may as well be scene.

[Mosh]

Oh god, me and my best friend were just talking about the Gabe Saporta thing last week. He went from making awesome music in Midtown to shitty dance-punk in Cobra. Which is funny, because I like the first two Cobra albums but Hot Mess is neon vomit to me. I wish music was how it was before the neon scene came about. But then again, I'm 15, what do I know? lol.

And just for reference:

Midtown Gabe:
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper322/stills/1jdm9i67.jpg

Cobra Starship Gabe:
http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/sites/music/img/25430_cobra%20starshhip.jpg

[blebbio]

Both scenes suck.

[ThisIsNotDan]

I miss a bunch of old bands, but I don't get hung up on it and I listen to plenty of new shit too. it happens man, can't just get hung up on it :shrug:

[MrOctober430]

If it sounds good, I'm listening to it. I'm not following any trends or scenes, just doing what I want.

[SmallFrailBoy]

"When is the last time you saw someone walking around wearing an Animal Collective t-shirt? You know why you can’t think of one? Because indie bands are the most disposable kind. That shirt would be out of style by the time you washed it. Indie albums have a life cycle of about 2 weeks."

or because animal collective doesn't make shirts. what a dumb fucking tool

What's up smartass?
http://www.kungfunation.com/artists/28-animal-collective

[Cuddleworthy]

What's up smartass?
http://www.kungfunation.com/artists/28-animal-collective

3rd party garbage. they haven't released a shirt themselves since '06

[AP_Punk]

what togepi said throughout this thread.

[alexa_ATL]

But they don't fade away.......

they don't disapear, but they drift in and out of popularity. like techno in the '80's. that shit was dismantled by rap and soft rock in the '90's. then it resurged pretty recently. it's just the undulation of a genre really.