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xJesusFreakx
11/24/09, 05:36 PM
What new genre(s) and/or subgenre(s) have begun in this decade? Have any new innovative sounds come about in the past ten years, maybe a genre-defying band or album that will likely eventually lead to a new category of music?

drawndead
11/24/09, 07:25 PM
crunkcore :(

DaGaR
11/24/09, 07:40 PM
tv on the radio is pretty genre-defying.

honkyg88
11/24/09, 08:14 PM
Auto-tune

wroteurname
11/24/09, 08:19 PM
Emo didn't start until like 2002 right? With Tell All Your Friends?

theguy77
11/24/09, 08:29 PM
Auto-tune

wrong on sooooo many levels.

wroteurname
11/24/09, 08:30 PM
wrong on sooooo many levels.

Make a 3 paragraph post explaining all the levels plz.

Burn That Shit
11/24/09, 08:32 PM
Auto-tune

lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocoder#Musical_history

nkalldayyy
11/24/09, 08:36 PM
bands like mewithoutYou and All Get Out will hopefully soon have a genre.

also, Circa Survive needs their own genre. something other than "experimental"

x togepi x
11/24/09, 08:40 PM
Emo didn't start until like 2002 right? With Tell All Your Friends?

2001 with starting line bro.

theguy77
11/24/09, 08:41 PM
2001 with starting line bro.

both of you are wrong. 2000 with the movielife.

Chromefox
11/24/09, 08:43 PM
Post progressive carnival whinecore!

x togepi x
11/24/09, 08:43 PM
nobody gives a shit about the movielife.

the correct answer to this thread is dubstep.

wroteurname
11/24/09, 08:43 PM
Fav new genre--crisiscore.

nkalldayyy
11/24/09, 08:43 PM
2001 with starting line bro.
although one of my favorites, I wouldn't say they started a genre. pioneers, though definitely.

wroteurname
11/24/09, 08:45 PM
...yeah

ruffian
11/24/09, 08:46 PM
shitgaze. ya that's a serious answer.

x togepi x
11/24/09, 08:50 PM
shitgaze is not a real genre.

bloodyr0mance87
11/24/09, 08:52 PM
Post progressive carnival whinecore!

dude! this is all i listen to!

ruffian
11/24/09, 08:55 PM
that's why I qualified it with a serious statement.

honkyg88
11/24/09, 08:56 PM
wrong on sooooo many levels.

lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocoder#Musical_history
My bad, I guess what I'm getting at is that auto-tune arguably reached it's height in popularity this decade, essentially making it its own "genre". Thanks for keeping me in check though.

theguy77
11/24/09, 09:00 PM
My bad, I guess what I'm getting at is that auto-tune arguably reached it's height in popularity this decade, essentially making it its own "genre". Thanks for keeping me in check though.

i mean, i do still feel like you have a misunderstanding of what auto-tune actually is. it's probably used in just about everything you listen to. extreme abuse of it in the t-pain/kanye west manner is 1) not new 2) not even what the real purpose of auto-tune is; it's just abused for techno-y/electronic effect.

ruffian
11/24/09, 09:02 PM
it's not really "abuse"

theguy77
11/24/09, 09:05 PM
it's not really "abuse"

used in excess to produce a result that is different from what the auto-tune was originally intended for.

is that better?

Chromefox
11/24/09, 09:06 PM
It's abusive to my ears.

murrich
11/24/09, 09:10 PM
Whatever genre Battles are. I may be wrong here but I've never heard anything like them.

honkyg88
11/24/09, 09:10 PM
i mean, i do still feel like you have a misunderstanding of what auto-tune actually is. it's probably used in just about everything you listen to. extreme abuse of it in the t-pain/kanye west manner is 1) not new 2) not even what the real purpose of auto-tune is; it's just abused for techno-y/electronic effect.
I understand what you're saying, it's an extremely useful tool to use in the recording process. And though the abuse of it (t-pain/kanye) isn't new either, I guess I'm saying that said abuse has made it into a "new" genre of sorts because it was picked up by the mainstream and people don't realize auto-tune's legitimate uses. I'm finding it hard to explain here, and I hope that this hasn't confused you (admittedly it's confused me a little trying to write this down) but I get what you're saying.
Sorry for writing a novel as a response.

honkyg88
11/24/09, 09:12 PM
And just for fun:
Crabcore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chubbles/Crabcore

theguy77
11/24/09, 09:15 PM
I understand what you're saying, it's an extremely useful tool to use in the recording process. And though the abuse of it (t-pain/kanye) isn't new either, I guess I'm saying that said abuse has made it into a "new" genre of sorts because it was picked up by the mainstream and people don't realize auto-tune's legitimate uses. I'm finding it hard to explain here, and I hope that this hasn't confused you (admittedly it's confused me a little trying to write this down) but I get what you're saying.
Sorry for writing a novel as a response.

yeah, i get you. i just thought you were coming into the thread and being another person who says "auto-tune is a shit trend" without realizing that it's proper usage is applied on nearly everything they listen to, but youve shown you're open to the idea of it in the proper context.

but think about it, for instance havent you heard any techno songs in the 90s that used it? thats where i first remember hearing it, and i think there was a band called the robots or something like that who first became popular using a vocoder for that effect in like the 80s. i dont think its a new mainstream trend, although it's found in more music styles now than it was originally.

:-)
11/24/09, 09:17 PM
both of you are wrong. 2000 with the movielife.
1994 with Sunny Day Real Estate right?
:-p

Also I don't know if I'd call TSL emo... Say It Like You Mean It sort of is, but it it's a pioneering pop punk album more than anything imo

:-)
11/24/09, 09:19 PM
Screamo anyone?

Edit: Or neon dance punk, a la Cobra Starship/FTSK? That trend hasn't been around for long at all

tyramail
11/24/09, 09:23 PM
obviously crunkcore and auto-tuned electronic music has been getting popular in the past year or so. there was also the emergence of pretty much any kind of "-core" music. i agree with the above that tv in the radio and mewithoutyou could have their own genre eventually and are pretty genre-defying.

murrich
11/24/09, 09:23 PM
Screamo anyone?

Since when was Screamo created in this decade?

:-)
11/24/09, 09:26 PM
Since when was Screamo created in this decade? I don't know, that's what I'm asking.
Wanna tell me why it wasn't?

honkyg88
11/24/09, 09:29 PM
but think about it, for instance havent you heard any techno songs in the 90s that used it? thats where i first remember hearing it, and i think there was a band called the robots or something like that who first became popular using a vocoder for that effect in like the 80s. i dont think its a new mainstream trend, although it's found in more music styles now than it was originally.
Yeah, I get the techno songs of the 90's (I really used to love that stuff) and pioneers like Herbie Hancock and Roger Troutman were using it before, but I really think it became a mainstream trend this decade (I mean Wendy's made a commerical exploiting it). Point being though is that you said it's used in more music styles today, and I guess that'd be my defense of classifying it as a "new" genre.

flks511
11/24/09, 09:35 PM
both of you are wrong. 2000 with the movielife.
You're also wrong. 90s Sunny Day Real Estate, Jawbreaker? The Get Up Kids, Jimmy Eat World, Christie Front Drive?

:-)
11/24/09, 09:42 PM
You're also wrong. 90s Sunny Day Real Estate, Jawbreaker? The Get Up Kids, Jimmy Eat World, Christie Front Drive?

Eh, JEW really doesn't belong with that list... but otherwise yeah

The Summer Ends
11/24/09, 09:57 PM
you 16 year olds are fucking idiots

Burn That Shit
11/24/09, 10:10 PM
ryan is such a troll.

theguy77
11/24/09, 10:17 PM
You're also wrong. 90s Sunny Day Real Estate, Jawbreaker? The Get Up Kids, Jimmy Eat World, Christie Front Drive?

you and smiley face over there completely missed the sarcasm. emo started in the mid-80s and sounds nothing like any of you think it does.

IWasHerHorse
11/25/09, 12:34 AM
Yeah, I get the techno songs of the 90's (I really used to love that stuff) and pioneers like Herbie Hancock and Roger Troutman were using it before, but I really think it became a mainstream trend this decade (I mean Wendy's made a commerical exploiting it). Point being though is that you said it's used in more music styles today, and I guess that'd be my defense of classifying it as a "new" genre.

I wouldn't call auto-tune a genre, that's like saying distortion is a genre. Beyond that auto-tune as an effect was used in Cher's song Believe in 1998, arguably early and mainstream enough to dismiss any dispute of the effect as a product of this decade.

:-)
11/25/09, 06:12 AM
you and smiley face over there completely missed the sarcasm. emo started in the mid-80s and sounds nothing like any of you think it does.

You're contradicting yourself...
Examples please

Rodeo
11/25/09, 06:15 AM
Freak-folk / new weird america.

flks511
11/25/09, 02:47 PM
you and smiley face over there completely missed the sarcasm. emo started in the mid-80s and sounds nothing like any of you think it does.
Your attempt at sarcasm failed. Sarcasm is about tone. I can't hear your tone through the text you write. The misunderstanding was entirely your fault.