Cute Is What We Aim For/Matt Squire - 6.17.06

[Scott Weber]

And I love how since I'm a teenage girl my word is immediately discredited. Because teenage girls aren't allowed to be smart and have their own opinions, right?
holy overreaction. i just said a lot of teenage girls were coming out to defend the band. I never said anything about intelligence or anything involving your credibility. self-concious much?

[Jason Tate]

And for what? Or is this just you talking again?

And I'd like to believe I'm the most sensible person in the whole goddamn thread. I'm not talking out my ass here. If there's anyone you should be arguing with, it's me. But you have nothing. Nothing. You're just talking. There's nothing to any of the shit you're posting. You're a little angry. So fucking what? Some of us are people. We want to succeed. We want to believe we're right. Some of us even try to prove that we're right! But goddamn it, just let these boys be. They're making pop music. Who cares if there's a little drama? If they're such big assholes as you're saying, then why make such a big deal about it Mr. Self Proclaimed Asshole? Just let it lie.
The answer isn't obvious? It's a slow Saturday, what else do I have to do besides come into a thread I KNOW I'm going to get into an argument in? Think about it, you've been around here long enough, you know me, you know how I act.

[trustmeimokay]

The answer isn't obvious? It's a slow Saturday, what else do I have to do besides come into a thread I KNOW I'm going to get into an argument in? Think about it, you've been around here long enough, you know me, you know how I act.
Well if this is all just boredom then please find a new outlet outside of making other people feel like shit about what they're doing in life.

[youarethemoon]

What? That I said 3 instead of 2? Hahaha? That's the linchpin in your argument? Woah.

You're just mad that she pointed out that you lied. We're just mad that you're pointing out that Cute is lying when they aren't.

[logicalfall]

Oh no she didn't.

You never answered me, do you get your skills from the pills?

I never saw your "skills from the pills" part, but no, I don't take pills, unlike you.

[logicalfall]

You're just mad that she pointed out that you lied. We're just mad that you're pointing out that Cute is lying when they aren't.


I agree. That proves you're a big liar, Tate, and we're on to you.

[audiolove]

jason, so how many cute fans joined the site today to defend them? we know at least two did.

also, about those wanting to know tate's sources. if he gave up sources for no reason at all but to appease 13-20 year old cute fans, he wouldn't have the sources that he has and needs to run this site. it's called business, it's called on-the-record and off-the-record.

I'll go on-the-record to say, tate pwns.

[Jason Tate]

You're just mad that she pointed out that you lied. We're just mad that you're pointing out that Cute is lying when they aren't.
Seriously, for 20 your reading skills are lacking (I think you're lying about your age) - I ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS.

You haven't shown Cute is telling the truth, I've shown why I think they're lying .. I'll be doing more of that in a few weeks, cause I have some awesome material now.

[Jason Tate]

jason, so how many cute fans joined the site today to defend them? we know at least two did.

also, about those wanting to know tate's sources. if he gave up sources for no reason at all but to appease 13-20 year old cute fans, he wouldn't have the sources that he has and needs to run this site. it's called business, it's called on-the-record and off-the-record.

I'll go on-the-record to say, tate pwns.
Thank you for being one of the few people that understands that.

[logicalfall]

holy overreaction. i just said a lot of teenage girls were coming out to defend the band. I never said anything about intelligence or anything involving your credibility. self-concious much?

Nope, not self-concious, just wishing that you all would stop pointing out that we're teenagers, because that has nothing to do with our love for the band.

[Jason Tate]

I agree. That proves you're a big liar, Tate, and we're on to you.

It obviously does.

I have 5 sources.
I have 4 sources.
I have 0192012 sources.

You are the same morons that probably buy the Fox News "flip-flopper" shit too don't you?

[Jason Tate]

Nope, not self-concious, just wishing that you all would stop pointing out that we're teenagers, because that has nothing to do with our love for the band.
Actually, it really has everything to do with your love for the band.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

so i've read through all the comments here, and i still don't see what you think that Ciwwaf is lying about.

[Jason Tate]

I never saw your "skills from the pills" part, but no, I don't take pills, unlike you.
You missed THAT joke? Shit. You must not be a huge CIWWAF fan to not get that one.

[logicalfall]

It obviously does.

I have 5 sources.
I have 4 sources.
I have 0192012 sources.

You are the same morons that probably buy the Fox News "flip-flopper" shit too don't you?

Not really, I hate Fox News. Load of shit, that is.

[Jason Tate]

so i've read through all the comments here, and i still don't see what you think that Ciwwaf is lying about.
That they are doing this for money (image issue), that Shaant wasn't locked out of the studio ("time is money guys"), and that they wrote their entire album themselves.

I think those were the main ones, I don't remember now.

[logicalfall]

You missed THAT joke? Shit. You must not be a huge CIWWAF fan to not get that one.

I meant that I didn't see you write that, since I was too busy replying to your pointless posts to notice you edited it.

[Jason Tate]

Not really, I hate Fox News. Load of shit, that is.
Thanks Yoda.

[Jason Tate]

I meant that I didn't see you write that, since I was too busy replying to your pointless posts to notice you edited it.
So you did get the joke?

[youarethemoon]

Seriously, for 20 your reading skills are lacking (I think you're lying about your age) - I ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS.

You haven't shown Cute is telling the truth, I've shown why I think they're lying .. I'll be doing more of that in a few weeks, cause I have some awesome material now.

I'm not lying about my age and it's pathetic for you to think that Cute can't have fans over the age of 13.

Come on, ten minutes ago you were sure that they were lying. Now you "think" that they are. I don't think that they are lying because they're honest guys. I've actually met them, unlike you. I've met them several times, actually, and I've also met your "sources" from Punchline. Punchline would never say that they hate another band, especially Cute who has the utmost respect for them.

[logicalfall]

Actually, it really has everything to do with your love for the band.

Does it really? So now all Cute fans are teenage girls? Maybe if you went to one of their shows you'd notice that isn't true.

[trustmeimokay]

Thank you for being one of the few people that understands that.
I understand this also, but it doesn't mean that I ( or anyone for that matter) has to believe it. You usually don't trust an asshole (and I'm not calling names, you yourself called yourself this, so I figure it's fair game)

And with that, I'm done with this thread. It's going nowhere. The people on Cute's side are just being repetitious and are quick to defend those 'they've met in real life!'. The ones on Tate's side are either sucking up or are just trusting his word. I on the other hand do not. Big deal.

And I'm sorry Mr Tate that you feel that what I have to say means nothing. That's very nice to know. I was trying to make a point, you ignored it and remained in your tower. You need to level with some of us here. We have no real reason to believe your word, alright? Think about it.

[logicalfall]

Thanks Yoda.

Now don't be hating on Yoda now. He rocks.

[PerfectMess]

Does it really? So now all Cute fans are teenage girls? Maybe if you went to one of their shows you'd notice that isn't true.
not from my experience...

[logicalfall]

So you did get the joke?

Yep.

[youarethemoon]

Actually, it really has everything to do with your love for the band.

Don't even try to pull the teenager card on her. I'm not a teenager and I love Cute. You must have been a teenager at some point, too.

[Jason Tate]

I understand this also, but it doesn't mean that I ( or anyone for that matter) has to believe it. You usually don't trust an asshole (and I'm not calling names, you yourself called yourself this, so I figure it's fair game)

And with that, I'm done with this thread. It's going nowhere. The people on Cute's side are just being repetitious and are quick to defend those 'they've met in real life!'. The ones on Tate's side are either sucking up or are just trusting his word. I on the other hand do not. Big deal.

And I'm sorry Mr Tate that you feel that what I have to say means nothing. That's very nice to know. I was trying to make a point, you ignored it and remained in your tower. You need to level with some of us here. We have no real reason to believe your word, alright? Think about it.
You have no reason to believe me, but I have NOTHING to gain by lying - the band does. That's what you have to keep telling yourself.

[logicalfall]

not from my experience...


Well all the shows I've attended have had a wide variety of people in the audience.

[Jason Tate]

Don't even try to pull the teenager card on her. I'm not a teenager and I love Cute. You must have been a teenager at some point, too.
Yeah, you were last year though. Just because you don't have to wear a training bra now, doesn't mean you don't act like a teenager still (this thread proves it).

I think tou love bad music. Please find something with substance to love. It's okay to like bad music, but loving it seems to be hurting the music industry as a whole.

[Jason Tate]

Well all the shows I've attended have had a wide variety of people in the audience.
All of which were staying for the GOOD bands that played later in the bill.

[youarethemoon]

Yeah, last year. Just because you don't have to wear a training bra now, doesn't mean you don't act like a teenager still (this thread proves it).

I'm not the one who is being immature by starting shit. You started all this, remember?

[logicalfall]

Yeah, last year. Just because you don't have to wear a training bra now, doesn't mean you don't act like a teenager still (this thread proves it).


What the hell? Why'd you bring up training bras? 17-year-olds and 20-year olds don't wear training bras. Unless they did when you were that age... maybe a former girlfriend?

[logicalfall]

All of which were staying for the GOOD bands that played later in the bill.


Actually Cute was the headlining band for most of these concerts.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

That they are doing this for money (image issue), that Shaant wasn't locked out of the studio ("time is money guys"), and that they wrote their entire album themselves.

I think those were the main ones, I don't remember now. alright, what reason would there be for shaant being locked out?

and with the upcoming CD release, wouldn't they have decided whether or not to keep Fred by now? better yet, wouldn't they have kicked him out BEFORE they got SIGNED if they wanted to have a certain image? I would assume that if they wanted him out, they would have done it BEFORE it would cause so much contraversy.

[Jason Tate]

Now don't be hating on Yoda now. He rocks.
Shouldn't that be "Yoda hating don't. Rocks he?"

[Jason Tate]

alright, what reason would there be for shaant being locked out?

and with the upcoming CD release, wouldn't they have decided whether or not to keep Fred by now? better yet, wouldn't they have kicked him out BEFORE they got SIGNED if they wanted to have a certain image? I would assume that if they wanted him out, they would have done it BEFORE it would cause so much contraversy.
They DID KICK HIMOUT BEFORE THEY GOT SIGNED. Grrrrrr..

[Jason Tate]

Actually Cute was the headlining band for most of these concerts.
That's a shame.

[audiolove]

Well all the shows I've attended have had a wide variety of people in the audience.

have you ever thought that *gasp* not everyone was there for cute?
i know i've had to attend a cute show. why? a band i actually liked and wanted to see was playing!

[Jason Tate]

What the hell? Why'd you bring up training bras? 17-year-olds and 20-year olds don't wear training bras. Unless they did when you were that age... maybe a former girlfriend?
Oh diss.

It was a joke lil miss 20 year old (I still am not buying it).

[logicalfall]

That's a shame.

Not really. It was pretty amazing.

[Jason Tate]

I'm not the one who is being immature by starting shit. You started all this, remember?
No, actually, they started it. Not like it matters - I'll finish it.

I'll be here forever, they have maybe 5 minutes left of their 15 minutes. When the trend dies, and they never record another album, what are you going to do then?

[xsxarexsoxscene]

not from my experience... check out that thing on MTV. half the people there are guys. every show i've been to, at least 1/3 are guys.

[Jason Tate]

Not really. It was pretty amazing.
You use superfluous adjectives to describe mediocre things. Your boyfriend must love you for that.

[logicalfall]

Oh diss.

It was a joke lil miss 20 year old (I still am not buying it).

I'm not the 20-year old, for one. I'm 17.

You don't buy it? My birthdate is June 5th, 1989. Want more proof? Ask, and I shall deliver.

[audiolove]

so i've read through all the comments here, and i still don't see what you think that Ciwwaf is lying about.

tate, make that three.

oh and p.s. i'm not "sucking up to tate". i have no need to. i speak on personal experiences of my own and of those i'd take a bullet for.

[Jason Tate]

check out that thing on MTV. half the people there are guys. every show i've been to, at least 1/3 are guys.
You sure? Their fans all look alike anyway - not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.

[youarethemoon]

Oh diss.

It was a joke lil miss 20 year old (I still am not buying it).

She's not 20, I am. I don't care if you don't buy my age, because last time I checked, my 20th birthday was on July 31, 2005.

[logicalfall]

You use superfluous adjectives to describe mediocre things. Your boyfriend must love you for that.

My girlfriend? I'm straight. Nice of you to make a stab at my sexual preference Tate.

[audiolove]

Not really. It was pretty amazing.

tate claiming it's a shame, yeah it was! ;)

[xsxarexsoxscene]

They DID KICK HIMOUT BEFORE THEY GOT SIGNED. Grrrrrr.. uhm okay then why is he still with them? he DID play on the CD and is obviously still playing shows. not trying to fight you (yet.) but you've got me confused.

[Jason Tate]

tate, make that three.

oh and p.s. i'm not "sucking up to tate". i have no need to. i speak on personal experiences of my own and of those i'd take a bullet for.
It's kinda cute. Maybe we should show them all our Pete Wentz interview so they know we actually do like some pop bands that they love too?

[siimpx]

You use superfluous adjectives to describe mediocre things. Your boyfriend must love you for that.

Oh man, I actually just found something Jason Tate said somewhat amusing.

[youarethemoon]

tate claiming it's a shame, yeah it was! ;)

Stop bowing down at his feet. His ego doesn't need it.

[Jason Tate]

My girlfriend? I'm straight. Nice of you to make a stab at my sexual preference Tate.
What the fuck are you talking about?

[xsxarexsoxscene]

have you ever thought that *gasp* not everyone was there for cute?
i know i've had to attend a cute show. why? a band i actually liked and wanted to see was playing!...if cute was the headliner, wouldn't the people that disliked Cute LEAVE after the bands they liked played?

[logicalfall]

You use superfluous adjectives to describe mediocre things. Your boyfriend must love you for that.


Oh, I guess you decided to fix this.

[Jason Tate]

uhm okay then why is he still with them? he DID play on the CD and is obviously still playing shows. not trying to fight you (yet.) but you've got me confused.
Because he came back to the band after they were signed (search on here for his posts, he admits to being an "exmember" in one of them).

[youarethemoon]

It's kinda cute. Maybe we should show them all our Pete Wentz interview so they know we actually do like some pop bands that they love too?

Is it possible that Jason Tate likes a decent band? Impossible.

[Jason Tate]

...if cute was the headliner, wouldn't the people that disliked Cute LEAVE after the bands they liked played?
If they're smart - yes.

[PerfectMess]

check out that thing on MTV. half the people there are guys. every show i've been to, at least 1/3 are guys.
1. don't consider mtv to be in any way real life
2. you're from buffalo. thats their hometown. of course they have a larger, more diverse fan base there. its the case with just about any band

[bigmike]

I am.
Excellent. I really, really look forward to reading it.

[logicalfall]

What the fuck are you talking about?


Originally you wrote "girlfriend" but you just edited it, to make yourself look smarter again.

[Jason Tate]

Is it possible that Jason Tate likes a decent band? Impossible.
Not only likes - they fucking love me (http://www.absolutepunk.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=10458&c=75&userid=1083).

[Jason Tate]

Originally you wrote "girlfriend" but you just edited it, to make yourself look smarter again.
Ok Priscilla, whatever you say.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

You sure? Their fans all look alike anyway - not sure I'd be able to tell the difference. obviously you have not met many. check out the guy on the show with the party hat and tie?

[PerfectMess]

...if cute was the headliner, wouldn't the people that disliked Cute LEAVE after the bands they liked played?
not if they want to hang out with or talk to a band they actually like

[logicalfall]

Ok Priscilla, whatever you say.

Whatever Tate. You know you did it. Just keep lying. It seems to be what you're best at.

[youarethemoon]

1. don't consider mtv to be in any way real life
2. you're from buffalo. thats their hometown. of course they have a larger, more diverse fan base there. its the case with just about any band

I'm not from their hometown and I've had to travel to a few different states to see them. Their fan base is still diverse no matter where they go. It's not like MTV is going to change the footage of the concert.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

1. don't consider mtv to be in any way real life
2. you're from buffalo. thats their hometown. of course they have a larger, more diverse fan base there. its the case with just about any band haha trust me, i wouldnt trust MTV, except for the fact that i know the people in the crowd that they showed, and a few of my friends were there. they filmed it in buffalo.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

not if they want to hang out with or talk to a band they actually like in which case, they would leave the huge crowd of people, the 'pit', if you will, and hang out on the sides or near the merch tables, where the other bands would more likely be, correct?

[PerfectMess]

I'm not from their hometown and I've had to travel to a few different states to see them. Their fan base is still diverse no matter where they go.
my bad. I've seen them in several states as well (unfortuantely they were touring with my friends band). The only people I saw who actually liked them and/or knew the words to their songs were about 95% teenage girls.

[PerfectMess]

in which case, they would leave the huge crowd of people, the 'pit', if you will, and hang out on the sides or near the merch tables, where the other bands would more likely be, correct?
not necessarily. Just because you're somewhat near the stage doesnt mean you like the band. I've stayed there out of pure laziness.

[aglitteryexampl]

kso i'm pretty sure Aaliyah said that age aint nothing but a number, so Tate, you need to lay off the remarks about teenage girls.
that being said, yeah, go check my profile. i'm 18 years old. no shame in that, but just because I am doesn't mean I haven't lived. i've packed myself in american legions and basements for a few years now, just to hear 'good music'. i myself deemed it 'good' and what other people think about it doesn't bother me all that much.
PEOPLE: these are just opinions. Tate has his, we have ours.
Tate: i'll wait to believe anything on this subject until i find out more about it.
pshhhh i like cute is what we aim for but i like Terror too. and as for the comment about CIWWAF being gone after one album... dude, everyone at one point in their life has loved *NSYNC or NKOTB.
i still haven't seen any more music from panic! at the disco. [yes i know they're on tour, but they BLEW UP like WHOA!] and if CIWWAF turns out like any of of the aforementioned bands, so be it.
but hey, i like the music i like, and everyone else likes what they like
[okay, pick me apart]

[xsxarexsoxscene]

my bad. I've seen them in several states as well (unfortuantely they were touring with my friends band). The only people I saw who actually liked them and/or knew the words to their songs were about 95% teenage girls. and wouldn't you know, thats EXACTLY how Fall Out Boy concerts are :D except more like 99%, and they actually rip off Pete's clothes. but Tate likes them!

[PerfectMess]

and wouldn't you know, thats EXACTLY how Fall Out Boy concerts are :D except more like 99%, and they actually rip off Pete's clothes. but Tate likes them!
what does that have to do with what I said at all?
all I stated was that their fans are mostly teenage girls.
other people claimed that wasn't true.
thats it.

[logicalfall]

I love how Tate hasn't said anything back yet.

I, however, must take a temporary leave of absence.

You may carry on.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

not necessarily. Just because you're somewhat near the stage doesnt mean you like the band. I've stayed there out of pure laziness. well then you sure are a special case. and also, at most shows i go to these days, i only see girls, and i like a variety of music, therefore i go to a variety of shows with a variety of fans. girls are more likely to jump onto trends, and seeing as how alternative music seems to be a trend, you're GOING to see mostly girls at shows.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

what does that have to do with what I said at all?
all I stated was that their fans are mostly teenage girls.
other people claimed that wasn't true.
thats it. well i'm sorry, you make it sound like you have a problem with their fans being mainly girls. as i said, i do see a lot of boys, but the scale does tip to girls. but as i said in a previous post, this is the case at many many shows these days.

[audiolove]

Stop bowing down at his feet. His ego doesn't need it.

i already addressed that. i don't give a shit what tate thinks of me, although you arguing with him proves that you do. i can't help it if tate's opinion is the exact same as mine, which i've had for a long ass time.

[youarethemoon]

well then you sure are a special case. and also, at most shows i go to these days, i only see girls, and i like a variety of music, therefore i go to a variety of shows with a variety of fans. girls are more likely to jump onto trends, and seeing as how alternative music seems to be a trend, you're GOING to see mostly girls at shows.

I sort of agree with you. But most Cute shows have quite a few guys, as do Fall Out Boy and other pop-punk bands. Cute isn't as "trendy" as Fall Out Boy.

[audiolove]

It's kinda cute. Maybe we should show them all our Pete Wentz interview so they know we actually do like some pop bands that they love too?

haha. pwned.

"for now, this skin will have to doooooo." sorry i have GOOD music in my head.

[youarethemoon]

i already addressed that. i don't give a shit what tate thinks of me, although you arguing with him proves that you do. i can't help it if tate's opinion is the exact same as mine, which i've had for a long ass time.

I can't help it that my opinion is the exact opposite as his and I've had it for a long time. I care about the fact that he is trashing a band that doesn't deserve to be trashed. I don't care what he thinks of me, I want the truth to come out. I've had my opinion for a "long ass" time, too. Come on, I was a CB fan.

[audiolove]

I can't help it that my opinion is the exact opposite as his and I've had it for a long time. I care about the fact that he is trashing a band that doesn't deserve to be trashed. I don't care what he thinks of me, I want the truth to come out.

he's not trashing a band. he's speaking his opinion. this is HIS site. he's allowed to have an opinion, he's allowed to speak the truth. which he is. just because you turn a blind eye to something, doesn't make it not true. i mean, i really want to believe in santa but i'm not going to snap at anyone saying that he's not real...

[audiolove]

I can't help it that my opinion is the exact opposite as his and I've had it for a long time. I care about the fact that he is trashing a band that doesn't deserve to be trashed. I don't care what he thinks of me, I want the truth to come out. I've had my opinion for a "long ass" time, too. Come on, I was a CB fan.

talk about editing posts. i personally, also knew cherrybing. i am from buffalo originally. i can't say i was a fan, but i knew of them when they truly existed in their "prime"

[youarethemoon]

he's not trashing a band. he's speaking his opinion. this is HIS site. he's allowed to have an opinion, he's allowed to speak the truth. which he is. just because you turn a blind eye to something, doesn't make it not true. i mean, i really want to believe in santa but i'm not going to snap at anyone saying that he's not real...

He is trashing the band. Yes, it is his opinion, I think this has been covered. He made a huge deal out of something he still can't prove. He's talking shit about the band's music and members. I'm not turning a blind eye to what he is saying, but I'd rather hear it from a reliable source, not Jason Tate.

[xsxarexsoxscene]

he's not trashing a band. he's speaking his opinion. this is HIS site. he's allowed to have an opinion, he's allowed to speak the truth. which he is. just because you turn a blind eye to something, doesn't make it not true. i mean, i really want to believe in santa but i'm not going to snap at anyone saying that he's not real... wow you really disgust me. you are saying WORD for fuckin WORD what he said. you are the saddest little suck-up i have ever seen. even if you agree with him, make up your own fucking words and opinions.

yes, he is the maintainer of this site. he can say what he wants, NO ONE is telling him that he can't.

but there is this nifty little thing called the First Amendment.

So therefore, we can say whatever we like to, even if it is that we hate him. or that santa clause is or is not real.

if you dont CARE what we think or say then why the HELL are you responding?

[You Got Owned]

haha
holy fuck
this thread is ridiculous

[xsxarexsoxscene]

He is trashing the band. Yes, it is his opinion, I think this has been covered. He made a huge deal out of something he still can't prove. He's talking shit about the band's music and members. I'm not turning a blind eye to what he is saying, but I'd rather hear it from a reliable source, not Jason Tate. agreed. im not saying i DONT believe him, but until i SEE some evidence, i'm going to stick with my naive happiness. Innocent until proven guilty. So, going with that, Cute is officially innocent.

[PerfectMess]

wow you really disgust me. you are saying WORD for fuckin WORD what he said. you are the saddest little suck-up i have ever seen. even if you agree with him, make up your own fucking words and opinions.

yes, he is the maintainer of this site. he can say what he wants, NO ONE is telling him that he can't.

but there is this nifty little thing called the First Amendment.

So therefore, we can say whatever we like to, even if it is that we hate him. or that santa clause is or is not real.

if you dont CARE what we think or say then why the HELL are you responding?
wow. just wow. try learning to read. (see above)
and btw, no one said you weren't allowed to state your opinion.

[logicalfall]

haha
holy fuck
this thread is ridiculous

agreed.

[Bakelevi]

i need weed. please. i am so fucking greedy. please respond. i am pathetic.

~bakob levy

[logicalfall]

TATE!!!!!!! Why'd you delete the "Cum Dumpster" comment?

I wanted to take a screenshot of that. Damn you.

[ParanoiAttack]

im glad that this thread has highlighted the blazen immaturity shown by those high up on this site.

give this band a fucking break. allow kids to make their own minds up. and you know what? if you came out with fucking cold, hard evidence proving all the stuff said about them, theyre, fake, locked out the studio (like that even fucking matters), didnt write their own songs, cant sing, have shit hair, whatever

i would still close this window and stick on some Cute. because oh yeah, i like the music. or is that not what its about anymore?

[logicalfall]

im glad that this thread has highlighted the blazen immaturity shown by those high up on this site.

give this band a fucking break. allow kids to make their own minds up. and you know what? if you came out with fucking cold, hard evidence proving all the stuff said about them, theyre, fake, locked out the studio (like that even fucking matters), didnt write their own songs, cant sing, have shit hair, whatever

i would still close this window and stick on some Cute. because oh yeah, i like the music. or is that not what its about anymore?

That IS what it's about. But apparently Tate doesn't think so.

[Jason Tate]

TATE!!!!!!! Why'd you delete the "Cum Dumpster" comment?

I wanted to take a screenshot of that. Damn you.

I haven't deleted anything. I've been driving to my parents house for the last 30 minutes. See, I have other things in my life beside this website (and it's my job) what's your excuse?

kso i'm pretty sure Aaliyah said that age aint nothing but a number, so Tate, you need to lay off the remarks about teenage girls.
that being said, yeah, go check my profile. i'm 18 years old. no shame in that, but just because I am doesn't mean I haven't lived. i've packed myself in american legions and basements for a few years now, just to hear 'good music'. i myself deemed it 'good' and what other people think about it doesn't bother me all that much.
PEOPLE: these are just opinions. Tate has his, we have ours.
Tate: i'll wait to believe anything on this subject until i find out more about it.
pshhhh i like cute is what we aim for but i like Terror too. and as for the comment about CIWWAF being gone after one album... dude, everyone at one point in their life has loved *NSYNC or NKOTB.
i still haven't seen any more music from panic! at the disco. [yes i know they're on tour, but they BLEW UP like WHOA!] and if CIWWAF turns out like any of of the aforementioned bands, so be it.
but hey, i like the music i like, and everyone else likes what they like
[okay, pick me apart]

No one will pick you apart, you did it for us.

I love how Tate hasn't said anything back yet.

I, however, must take a temporary leave of absence.

You may carry on.

Well, when you tell your friends what you did tonight and say "I argued for 6 hours on a message board" I expect them to laugh in your face. The difference being when my friends ask I get to say "I got paid to argue on a message board."

wow you really disgust me. you are saying WORD for fuckin WORD what he said. you are the saddest little suck-up i have ever seen. even if you agree with him, make up your own fucking words and opinions.

yes, he is the maintainer of this site. he can say what he wants, NO ONE is telling him that he can't.

but there is this nifty little thing called the First Amendment.

So therefore, we can say whatever we like to, even if it is that we hate him. or that santa clause is or is not real.

if you dont CARE what we think or say then why the HELL are you responding?

Uh.

[Jason Tate]

agreed. im not saying i DONT believe him, but until i SEE some evidence, i'm going to stick with my naive happiness. Innocent until proven guilty. So, going with that, Cute is officially innocent.
Well, you have to remember I have nothing to gain by anything I've said - NOTHING. It's just what I know. And as for "evidence" - you're never going to get anything except the words of people. You can choose to believe them or not.

I wonder if the band's pissed about thanking us in their album yet.

[Jason Tate]

im glad that this thread has highlighted the blazen immaturity shown by those high up on this site.

give this band a fucking break. allow kids to make their own minds up. and you know what? if you came out with fucking cold, hard evidence proving all the stuff said about them, theyre, fake, locked out the studio (like that even fucking matters), didnt write their own songs, cant sing, have shit hair, whatever

i would still close this window and stick on some Cute. because oh yeah, i like the music. or is that not what its about anymore?
Well, it turned into an argument about better and more deserving music not getting the attention this overhyped and underperforming band does. I would think the last thing a 'Cute' fan would want is for it to be about the music - because that's about the worst thing they have going for them.

[Jason Tate]

TATE!!!!!!! Why'd you delete the "Cum Dumpster" comment?

I wanted to take a screenshot of that. Damn you.

I didn't delete anything. I've been driving to my parents house for the last 30 minutes. What's your excuse?

kso i'm pretty sure Aaliyah said that age aint nothing but a number, so Tate, you need to lay off the remarks about teenage girls.
that being said, yeah, go check my profile. i'm 18 years old. no shame in that, but just because I am doesn't mean I haven't lived. i've packed myself in american legions and basements for a few years now, just to hear 'good music'. i myself deemed it 'good' and what other people think about it doesn't bother me all that much.
PEOPLE: these are just opinions. Tate has his, we have ours.
Tate: i'll wait to believe anything on this subject until i find out more about it.
pshhhh i like cute is what we aim for but i like Terror too. and as for the comment about CIWWAF being gone after one album... dude, everyone at one point in their life has loved *NSYNC or NKOTB.
i still haven't seen any more music from panic! at the disco. [yes i know they're on tour, but they BLEW UP like WHOA!] and if CIWWAF turns out like any of of the aforementioned bands, so be it.
but hey, i like the music i like, and everyone else likes what they like
[okay, pick me apart]

No one will pick you apart, you did enough of that for us.

I love how Tate hasn't said anything back yet.

I, however, must take a temporary leave of absence.

You may carry on.

When you tell your friends what you did tonight you'll have to say "I argued on a message board for 6 hours" when my friends ask me I get to say "I got paid to argue on a message board."

wow you really disgust me. you are saying WORD for fuckin WORD what he said. you are the saddest little suck-up i have ever seen. even if you agree with him, make up your own fucking words and opinions.

yes, he is the maintainer of this site. he can say what he wants, NO ONE is telling him that he can't.

but there is this nifty little thing called the First Amendment.

So therefore, we can say whatever we like to, even if it is that we hate him. or that santa clause is or is not real.

if you dont CARE what we think or say then why the HELL are you responding?

Uh.

[logicalfall]

I didn't delete anything. I've been driving to my parents house for the last 30 minutes. What's your excuse?




When you tell your friends what you did tonight you'll have to say "I argued on a message board for 6 hours" when my friends ask me I get to say "I got paid to argue on a message board."


A six hours well spent.

Ok well if you find the "cum dispenser" comment will you send me the link? I'd like to post that for all my friends to see. You don't know how much it amused me.

[ben pequeno]

hahah

[ParanoiAttack]

Well, it turned into an argument about better and more deserving music not getting
the attention. I would think the last thing a Cute fan would want is for it to be about the music - because that's about the worst thing they have going for them.
wow.

I can't even be botherd trying to engage in a debate over this. I mean, fuck, they're not The Beatles. They make fun music, that is catchy, and I enjoy listening to. A lot.

MxPx? Blink 182? Are they some kind of messiahs because they trawled the 'vfw'halls or whatever you call them. their early stuff has about as much substance as the same old blood rush...with a new touch, does.

at the end of the day.

you dont like the band.

a bunch of kids do.

do you not think that as a journalist, you should rise above your dislike for the band, let alone engane in this 24 page farce, and just let it lie?

[Jason Tate]

A six hours well spent.

Ok well if you find the "cum dispenser" comment will you send me the link? I'd like to post that for all my friends to see. You don't know how much it amused me.
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showpost.php?p=3573287&postcount=171

[logicalfall]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showpost.php?p=3573287&postcount=171

Thanks :)
ahahaha

[ben pequeno]

:tubbies:

[Jason Tate]

wow.

I can't even be botherd trying to engage in a debate over this. I mean, fuck, they're not The Beatles. They make fun music, that is catchy, and I enjoy listening to. A lot.

MxPx? Blink 182? Are they some kind of messiahs because they trawled the 'vfw'halls or whatever you call them. their early stuff has about as much substance as the same old blood rush...with a new touch, does.

at the end of the day.

you dont like the band.

a bunch of kids do.

do you not think that as a journalist, you should rise above your dislike for the band, let alone engane in this 24 page farce, and just let it lie?
No, it's much more fun to talk shit.

MxPx and Blink182 have more skill and musical talent than CIWWAF ever will. Both bands have also had illustrious careers. We'll see where this band is in 1 year let alone 10.

[ben pequeno]

i bet missed alot of pwning =(

[ParanoiAttack]

all i know is Chesire Cat is terrible, and I have never felt the need to listen to MxPx.

for a debut, regardless of their diabolical evil doings in the recording process and image departments, cute have scored big.

and im no 13 year old girl. i have reviewed for the BBC for the past 4 years.

[americanliving]

I am 20, I am a male. and I like Cute is what we aim for.

Just putting that out there. I guess there are some guys out there who like them.


Also, I love how Tate doesn't understand that when statments to people are not verbally expressed, that they should sense the sarcasm. You obviously had a problem with it when Fred said, "YES OUR PARENTS GAVE US 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO START A BAND."

Also you said that they were not a hard-working band. Are you in a band? So do you really have any room to say with it is like to be a hardworking band.

Was JamisonParker a hardworking band? They were together for such a "long time" before you started sucking their dicks back in the day. Actually it might have been their managers dick. I mean he was the one paying you to hype his lackluster band?

[logicalfall]

I am 20, I am a male. and I like Cute is what we aim for.

Just putting that out there. I guess there are some guys out there who like them.


Also, I love how Tate doesn't understand that when statments to people are not verbally expressed, that they should sense the sarcasm. You obviously had a problem with it when Fred said, "YES OUR PARENTS GAVE US 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO START A BAND."

Also you said that they were not a hard-working band. Are you in a band? So do you really have any room to say with it is like to be a hardworking band.

Was JamisonParker a hardworking band? They were together for such a "long time" before you started sucking their dicks back in the day. Actually it might have been their managers dick. I mean he was the one paying you to hype his lackluster band?


Haha, for the lack of a better term, JASON TATE YOU GOT PWNED!!!

[AShannon04]

Yeah, you were last year though. Just because you don't have to wear a training bra now, doesn't mean you don't act like a teenager still (this thread proves it).

I think tou love bad music. Please find something with substance to love. It's okay to like bad music, but loving it seems to be hurting the music industry as a whole.

Jesus Christ, Jason. Get off your high-fucking-horse for a second. Don't get me wrong: you've done a great job with this site and have done a lot of good for a lot of bands, but saying that this is your site and that you can do whatever you want because of it is SUCH a fucking cop-out when it comes to arguments. Whether you want to admit it or not, you lost complete control of this website a looooong time ago, and when you run your mouth, you are representing the site as a whole, not just yourself. I haven't heard CIWWAF and don't particularly care whether they're a sincere and geniune band, but you have got to be the most immature, unprofessional, and condescending CEO/founder/president (I don't know what you call yourself these days) I've ever seen. If you really care for this website and want to do what's best for it, I suggest you quit being such a prick to the people paying your bills. After all, without us, you'd just be like any other guy.

[AShannon04]

Jesus Christ, Jason. Get off your high-fucking-horse for a second. Don't get me wrong: you've done a great job with this site and have done a lot of good for a lot of bands, but saying that this is your site and that you can do whatever you want because of it is SUCH a fucking cop-out when it comes to arguments. Whether you want to admit it or not, you lost complete control of this website a looooong time ago, and when you run your mouth, you are representing the site as a whole, not just yourself. I haven't heard CIWWAF and don't particularly care whether they're a sincere and geniune band, but you have got to be the most immature, unprofessional, and condescending CEO/founder/president (I don't know what you call yourself these days) I've ever seen. If you really care for this website and want to do what's best for it, I suggest you quit being such a prick to the people paying your bills. After all, without us, you'd just be like any other guy.

[dukeboy1986]

I just have this to add...."The people who matter don't care and the people that care don't matter."

[Mal2883]

Ok wow Tate, we get it....you don't like Cute

your 23, right? If all the supposed fans of this band are "13 year old girls" why are you wasting your time sitting in front of your computer 24/7 arguing about how bad this band is that these people like? wow, your real fuckin cool....

[Jason Tate]

Ok wow Tate, we get it....you don't like Cute

your 23, right? If all the supposed fans of this band are "13 year old girls" why are you wasting your time sitting in front of your computer 24/7 arguing about how bad this band is that these people like? wow, your real fuckin cool....
I got 5 girls from Buffalo to sign up today (a Saturday no less) and refresh my website a whole bunch of times. That's why.

[Jason Tate]

Haha, for the lack of a better term, JASON TATE YOU GOT PWNED!!!
You're still here?

[Jason Tate]

I am 20, I am a male. and I like Cute is what we aim for.

Just putting that out there. I guess there are some guys out there who like them.

Eh.

Also, I love how Tate doesn't understand that when statments to people are not verbally expressed, that they should sense the sarcasm. You obviously had a problem with it when Fred said, "YES OUR PARENTS GAVE US 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO START A BAND."

When a question regarding a rumor is asked, and the only way you have to answer it is via the internet. Saying "yes that's true" isn't the best way to dispel said rumor.

Also you said that they were not a hard-working band. Are you in a band? So do you really have any room to say with it is like to be a hardworking band.

No, but I also don't cook - so can I not say if something tastes good? I don't paint, can I decide if I like artwork? I don't do lots of things but that doesn't take away my ability to judge. If the rule was you had to actively participate in everything you formed an opinion about - this world would be a pretty worthless place.

Was JamisonParker a hardworking band? They were together for such a "long time" before you started sucking their dicks back in the day. Actually it might have been their managers dick. I mean he was the one paying you to hype his lackluster band?

I supported Jamison before he had a manager and was playing shows on an acoustic guitar, alone, in front of 15 people at a coffee shop. Were they a hardworking band after they were signed, yes, partially Were they before hand? Yes, partially. However, I never said CIWWAF weren't hardworking; I said COMPARATIVELY to a few other artists (who I feel deserve this kind of attention) the band is not hardworking and does not deserve their "following."

[Jason Tate]

Jesus Christ, Jason. Get off your high-fucking-horse for a second. Don't get me wrong: you've done a great job with this site and have done a lot of good for a lot of bands, but saying that this is your site and that you can do whatever you want because of it is SUCH a fucking cop-out when it comes to arguments. Whether you want to admit it or not, you lost complete control of this website a looooong time ago, and when you run your mouth, you are representing the site as a whole, not just yourself. I haven't heard CIWWAF and don't particularly care whether they're a sincere and geniune band, but you have got to be the most immature, unprofessional, and condescending CEO/founder/president (I don't know what you call yourself these days) I've ever seen. If you really care for this website and want to do what's best for it, I suggest you quit being such a prick to the people paying your bills. After all, without us, you'd just be like any other guy.

I never once said it's my site and I can do whatever I want; it's my site so anyone can do whatever they want .. the ability to speak one's mind isn't a cop-out, it's a fact of life.

How have I lost "complete" control over this website? I can take it down at any time with the click of a button. I don't think you really know what you're saying.

You do realize that the more drama I create, the more people visit the website right? It's not the other way around.

[Melissa Johnson]

Ok wow Tate, we get it....you don't like Cute

your 23, right? If all the supposed fans of this band are "13 year old girls" why are you wasting your time sitting in front of your computer 24/7 arguing about how bad this band is that these people like? wow, your real fuckin cool....
Ahh see, you silly girls don't get it. You're playing right into his hand.
You're all in a lose-lose situation right now, just letting ya know that.

[Jason Tate]

Ahh see, you silly girls don't get it. You're playing right into his hand.
You're all in a lose-lose situation right now, just letting ya know that.
You know me too well, hush! You're giving it away.

[Mal2883]

your not really giving shit away....I'm 23 as well and I dont spend my time (whether I get paid for it or not) knocking around every band that I dont like....

[fightfightfight]

I am 20, I am a male. and I like Cute is what we aim for.

haha, this sounded like someones introduction at an AA meeting. ahahahaha

[logicalfall]

You're still here?

Yes Tate, I'm still here, and I'm going to be here as long as I want until you get sick of me.

:D

[logicalfall]

I supported Jamison before he had a manager and was playing shows on an acoustic guitar, alone, in front of 15 people at a coffee shop. Were they a hardworking band after they were signed, yes, partially Were they before hand? Yes, partially. However, I never said CIWWAF weren't hardworking; I said COMPARATIVELY to a few other artists (who I feel deserve this kind of attention) the band is not hardworking and does not deserve their "following."

You definitely said something along the lines of "OMG that's what you call hard-working?" About CIWWAF.

[youarethemoon]

I am 20, I am a male. and I like Cute is what we aim for.

Just putting that out there. I guess there are some guys out there who like them.


Also, I love how Tate doesn't understand that when statments to people are not verbally expressed, that they should sense the sarcasm. You obviously had a problem with it when Fred said, "YES OUR PARENTS GAVE US 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO START A BAND."

Also you said that they were not a hard-working band. Are you in a band? So do you really have any room to say with it is like to be a hardworking band.

One word, Jason: pwned.

[AShannon04]

How have I lost "complete" control over this website? I can take it down at any time with the click of a button. I don't think you really know what you're saying.


What I'm saying is that this site is way too big and important now for you to manage it like your own personal playground and is a much bigger entity than just one guy sitting at his computer.

[AShannon04]

I never once said it's my site and I can do whatever I want; it's my site so anyone can do whatever they want .. the ability to speak one's mind isn't a cop-out, it's a fact of life.

How have I lost "complete" control over this website? I can take it down at any time with the click of a button. I don't think you really know what you're saying.

You do realize that the more drama I create, the more people visit the website right? It's not the other way around.

All I'm saying is that the site these days is a faaaaaar cry from a kid sitting at his computer at home talking about MxPx and Blink-182. This site seems extremely influential in the scene today, and I give you huge props for that, but for someone that gets thanked in numerous liner notes, gets platinum plaques sent to their house, and has their name on the front cover of an album, you act extremely unprofessional and still act like some fanboy gushing over his favorite (and least favorite bands). If you really want to be successful, grow up and learn how to deal with people who are different from you and have opposing viewpoints.

[Jason Tate]

your not really giving shit away....I'm 23 as well and I dont spend my time (whether I get paid for it or not) knocking around every band that I dont like....
One band (well, maybe 3) out of 9 million. Yes, that seems like a fair comparison.

[Jason Tate]

One word, Jason: pwned.
I think you and "logicalfall" are the same person.

[Jason Tate]

Yes Tate, I'm still here, and I'm going to be here as long as I want until you get sick of me.

:D
Sick of you? Not gonna happen.

[get2sammyb]

Tate I have got to page 9 of this topic but you have pissed me off. I don't know what you said over the next 12 pages of the topic... to be honest I can't be bothered.

You almost sound jealous of CIWWAF. They got a break. Deal with it. It's actually not their fault. But if my band got the break - I would take it. And so would most bands. Whether they had done one days hard work for it, or 10 years.

And it's just your opinion if they are shit. Obviously the label doesn't think so.

And Shaant and the rest of the band are ugly fuckers - so I don't see how it can be based on image.

[Jason Tate]

Tate I have got to page 9 of this topic but you have pissed me off. I don't know what you said over the next 12 pages of the topic... to be honest I can't be bothered.

You almost sound jealous of CIWWAF. They got a break. Deal with it. It's actually not their fault. But if my band got the break - I would take it. And so would most bands. Whether they had done one days hard work for it, or 10 years.

And it's just your opinion if they are shit. Obviously the label doesn't think so.

And Shaant and the rest of the band are ugly fuckers - so I don't see how it can be based on image.
Where do people keep assuming that's what I'm upset about?

[logicalfall]

No Tate me and youarethemoon are NOT the same person. I don't need to make other usernames to make it seem like people support me. They do it on their own :p

[Jason Tate]

No Tate me and youarethemoon are NOT the same person. I don't need to make other usernames to make it seem like people support me. They do it on their own :p

You live in your own little world ... one where CIWWAF make decent sounding music apparently.

[logicalfall]

You live in your own little world ... one where CIWWAF make decent sounding music apparently.

Yep, and you also live in your own little world where you think you're the hot shit, and that people actually respect you, when you spend your days arguing with 17-year-old girls on a message board.

[blane]

:rolleyes:

[Linda Ferreira]

Wow. This thread was rather humorous reading. It seems that CIWWAF has two very huge fans. Logicalfall and youarethemoon joined the site just to post about this controversy and 100% of their posts on the site are just in the one thread of which they are the main contributors. CIWWAF is lucky to have such loyal fans.

[Shatter_Glass]

this was a great interview. CIWWAF just moved up 100000 notches in my book.

?????? crazy cracker. Anywho, Matt Squire is the man, I'm going to check these guys out (never heard them before) just because of him.

[iheartunderdogs]

ahhh, i love ciwwaf. i got my cd/ t-shirt in the mail 3 days ago. if i ever wore socks, they would rock them, but i never do. :D

[nonfatmilk]

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. You both obviously not going to give in, so arguing seems rather pointless. Although I agree with Jason more, I can understand the other side as well. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The arguing on this thread could continue for days, months or even years. But regardless, people all have different tastes in music and choose to believe what they want.

I don't think that Jason would fabricate his posts just for the sake of just disliking the band or it's purpose. He has provided his evidence, if you choose not to believe it's integrity, you're at fault. Whatever, that's my take on it.

[ThisIsABadIdea]

Really good interview. I really like CIWWAF release. As far as people hating this band and any band for that matter, its all just opinion. For instance I really don't like the music from anti flag, but I have a ton of respect for them because they're doing what they love and ton of people like it so more props to them and they're 100 times more musically talented than I, so basically until you start putting out records that have changed ppls lives or sell out a show, stop judging. And its one thing to say hey I'm not really into this bands music and to say these guys suck and they're sellouts. One u probably don't know the whole story or what actually goes on and two you're not in their shoes, so once again have some respect towards others and what thet like and I'm sure you'll receive the same.

Authors note, this is not directed toward any certain poster just an overall comment, hope no one takes it personally.

[Julia Conny]

I'm seeing this band in a couple days with All Time Low. It might be a night of a self-inflicted sugar rush, but I'm all about the pop tunes right now. Both these bands coordinate perfectly with my summer mindset. Even though, at times, Shaant's lyrics make no fucking sense.

[mpw]

i don't like Cute.

Tate makes sense, and he's right, he doesn't earn anything from a lie.

he has made some personal shots, which i don't care, he makes shots to himself and he takes them from others as well.

So, i have to say, i believe him. since his stories haven't changed except for that 2 or 3 sources shit.

And if you can't tell by the quality of the vocals on that cd that their isn't auto tune, and if you can't tell by their interviews or the way they carry themselfs that they are doing this all for the wrong reasons, then...well, Tate will just have to take care of the rest of this statement.

[hopeforthebest]

Cute is What We Aim For>Sherwood=The Click Five

I don't know how anyone could defend Sherwood (standardized pop with "scene beards") and hate on Cute music/lyrics in the same breath. Just because they're packaged to look indie doesn't make them any better. Cute's music and lyrics are more interesting and unique than that. That said, I take "music" as is and just listen to what I enjoy and both of these bands are pure fun for me.

But I adore Acceptance. That better not be true.

Wow, CIWWAF is so much like The Click Five and you think Sherwood sounds like them, What is the world coming to?

[X0LeahBabiiX0]

I am somewhat new here and reading all the posts have made me sick!!
You Mr. Tate are a pathetic asshole who thinks that he is hot shit because he has "sources" on CIWWAF and what goes on with them.
Where are these "sources"?
You claim that they want to tell the truth about cute yet none of them are allowing you to use their names for all this info and shit you have on them.
I think that you should check your sources because if you knew anything then you would know that Fred is still in the band! As far as the record deal I don’t know, but sense he is still not only in the band and playing all their shows I’m pretty sure that means he is still in the band!!!
Mr. Tate as far as I am concerned you are a pathetic asshole. I could care less if this affects you or not. But for you to try and bring CIWWAF down just because they got a few breaks that is so disgusting.
Yes you are entitled to your own opinion. I’m not saying you aren’t.
But sense you wanna talk about bands that use autotone how many do you think use them??? What do you think that bands don’t use them??? You have to be fuckin kidding me!!! Gasp!!!! A band used some auto tone!!!! Lets bash them for that omg!!!!
And as far as writing their own songs you got to be shittin me!!! How many bands do you really think constantly write their own songs?? I highly doubt that EVERY band that has ever made a CD has wrote their own songs or not had help writing their songs!!!
Grow Up!!! Who cares!!!! If people like CIWWAF let them!!! You really are just trying to bring them down just because you think that you know everything!!! It is people like you that not only make me sick but make me hate half the people that have anything to do with the music industry because you tear down bands that got a few lucky breaks and you think that just because they did, they didn’t work hard to get where they are!!!
And one last thing, yes I am a girl and no I am not 13. I am 19 years old and I am not in love with Cute. I like their music and think that they are genuine and that they deserve all the success they have gotten.
Again i could care less if this bothers you or not. In my opinion you are pathetic, an asshole, and its really disgusting that you want to bring them down.

[artistanonymous]

I love this band, so much. The music is so fun to throw into my car's stereo and blast as I drive around town. The guys are the nicest kids I've met.
This interview was great, the questions were worded very well. People rag on them a lot and talk a lot of shit on them, but in reality they're still kids.
I mean come on people, they're all under 20. They're like Panic! At The Disco with their live shows. They're just starting up as a full successful band and they need time to improve (Even though I think, personally, that their live show is amazing). I know it took Panic a good amount of time to grow up in the music industry, so give these guys so time.
On the autotune issue, I really don't think that any band can make a decent record without a slight autotune to it. Sure some bands don't use it, but I know most records I enjoy have a small tweak.
But this is just my opinion.

[Anakinfuckedup]

Matt Squire is a great producer; TREOS, perfect example....Good job with CIWWAF Matt.

[RAWRitsMAGGIEx3]

if you dont have anything nice to say don't say it at all
yeah i dont care how dumb that sounds its true
if all you have to say is negative then keep it to yourself or write about it on a piece of paper or something
there's absolutely no reason for any one to say anything bad about this band
its not going to make you "cool" saying bad things about them
and your not saving anyones lives just keep it to yourself or talk about it with your friends
stop being dumb and leave them alone
<3 Maggie =]

[blusox3]

reality check ... this band blows !

[xcoaxmex]

i love shaant

[total brodown]

some of those questions to the singer were so condescending.

[jaguarlove]

second part was interesting with the producer.

[alice(ruthless)]

awesome intvw, if a bit old. ;-)

[kimgreen568]

That is a good interview.

[kimgreen568]

That is a good interview,I like it very much. www.blobay.com

[Modernman95]

I met those guys when i was 12. Pretty cool dudes.