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theband
12/03/09, 09:23 PM
As the year wraps up, it'd be interesting to see what people feel are the top 10 albums of the year. I think 2009 has been a pretty great year for music. Post your ten favorite records of the year.

1. "Oh My God, Charlie Darwin" by The Low Anthem
2. "Treasury Library Canada" by Woodpigeon
3. "Humbug" by Arctic Monkeys
4. "Veckatimest" by Grizzly Bear
5. "Daisy" by Brand New
6. "I and Love and You" by The Avett Brothers
7. "Let It Go" by State Radio
8. "Strict Joy" by The Swell Season
9. "Brother's Blood" by Kevin Devine
10. "It's All Crazy! It's All False! It's All A Dream! It's Alright" by mewithoutyou

FeynmanWannabe
12/03/09, 09:31 PM
Why does everyone think they're the first person to come up with this oh-so-novel thread idea?

cshadows2887
12/03/09, 09:32 PM
1. The Dangerous Summer - Reach for the Sun
2. Lights - The Listening
3. Taking Back Sunday - New Again
4. Owl City - Ocean Eyes
5. Say Anything - Say Anything
6. Iron and Wine - Around the Well
7. Brandi Carlile - Give Up the Ghost
8. P.O.S. - Never Better
9. Paramore - Brand New Eyes
10. Thrice - Beggars

Alternate: Meg and Dia - Here, Here and Here

theband
12/03/09, 10:13 PM
Why does everyone think they're the first person to come up with this oh-so-novel thread idea?

I never said I was the first one to come up with it...?

theguy77
12/04/09, 12:09 AM
well, at least now we have a thread where the OP's list isn't just this year's cookie cutter scene releases.

why yes, i am well aware that my own album falls into that category. thanks in advance for trying to point out my "hypocrisy", though.

dakotahwithanh
12/04/09, 12:10 AM
1)Brand New-Daisy
2)Mastodon-Crack The Skye
3)Pearl Jam-Backspacer
4)Frank Turner-Poetry of The Deed
5)Metric-Fantasies
6)Manchester Orchestra-Mean Everything To Nothing
7) Thrice-Beggars
8)Propoghandi-Supporting Caste
9)The Mountain Goats-The Life of The World To Come
10)David Bazan-Curse Your Branches

s.t.e.v.e.n.
12/04/09, 12:13 AM
[quote=FeynmanWannabe;58352471]Why does everyone think they're the first person to come up with this oh-so-novel thread idea?

Because you're avatar rules.

well, at least now we have a thread where the OP's list isn't just this year's cookie cutter scene releases.

why yes, i am well aware that my own album falls into that category. thanks in advance for trying to point out my "hypocrisy", though.

Huh.

I never know which one of these threads I want to contribute a list to.

UnderMyDreams
12/04/09, 01:00 AM
1. All Time Low - Nothing Personal
2. The Dangerous Summer - Reach for the Sun
3. Brand New - Daisy
4. Boys Like Girls - Love Drunk
5. Set Your Goals - This Will be the Death of Us
6. New Found Glory - Not Without a Fight
7. The Friday Night Boys - Off the Deep End
8. Anti Flag - The People or the Gun
9. Ace Enders and a Million Different People - When I Hit the Ground
10. Every Avenue - Picture Perfect

EPs:
1. The Years Gone By - Something You Know Nothing About
2. Hit the Lights - Coast to Coast
3. Red Car Wire - From the Start

And yes, I am aware most of you hate most of this list.

IWasaCamera
12/04/09, 07:26 AM
Another one of these.

theband
12/04/09, 08:14 AM
well, at least now we have a thread where the OP's list isn't just this year's cookie cutter scene releases.


I'll definitely take that as a compliment! Sorry guys, I guess I should have searched. I hadn't personally seen one, my bad..

pennie
12/04/09, 08:32 AM
I'll definitely take that as a compliment! Sorry guys, I guess I should have searched. I hadn't personally seen one, my bad..

you where trying to add to the forum,you bad man! haha no need to apologize dude

mulcahy67
12/04/09, 08:38 AM
im just posting my list in all these bitches.

1. Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything To Nothing
2. The Dead Weather - Horehound
3. Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg
4. dredg - The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion
5. Every Time I Die - The New Junk Aesthetic
6. Kevin Devine - Brother's Blood
7. Portugal. The Man - The Satanic Satanist
8. Brand New - Daisy
9. Bear In Heaven - Beast Rest Fort Mouth
10. fun. - Aim and Ignite
11. Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport
12. Muse - The Resistance
13. MewithoutYou - It's All Crazy! It's All False! It's All a Dream! It's Alright
14. Thrice - Beggars
15. Emery - ...In Shallow Seas We Sail
16. 311 - Uplifter
17. Tegan and Sara - Sainthood
18. MC Lars - This Gigantic Robot Kills
19. Say Anything - Say Anything
20. Dashboard Confessional - Alter the Ending

briewer
12/04/09, 09:40 AM
Can one of the mods just make one of these sticky and have everyone post in that one instead of making a ton of different threads?

9. Bear In Heaven - Beast Rest Fort Mouth
11. Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport
Yeah.... no.

nlcentralchamps
12/04/09, 09:49 AM
Can someone merge all of these. This is getting a bit ridiculous.

meroki22
12/04/09, 01:01 PM
Can one of the mods just make one of these sticky and have everyone post in that one instead of making a ton of different threads?


Yeah.... no.

What do you mean?

Those two albums are some of the BEST NEW MUSIC I've heard this year.

briewer
12/04/09, 01:11 PM
What do you mean?

Those two albums are some of the BEST NEW MUSIC I've heard this year.
Sorry, I was trying to accentuate the order they were in. Tarot Sport is fantastic and one of my favorite albums this year, while Beast Rest Forth Mouth is just completely uninteresting and wouldn't be known by anyone had P4k not BNM'd it. But yeah, the amount of respect their Best New Music section gets is hilarious.

Pat k
12/04/09, 02:01 PM
I haven't listened to any of these records.

I like the new Camera Obscura, Dirty Projectors, and besides that I listened to Guided by Voices and Death.

princesschad
12/04/09, 02:18 PM
veckatimest

oddwithoutend
12/04/09, 02:25 PM
Sorry, I was trying to accentuate the order they were in. Tarot Sport is fantastic and one of my favorite albums this year, while Beast Rest Forth Mouth is just completely uninteresting and wouldn't be known by anyone had P4k not BNM'd it. But yeah, the amount of respect their Best New Music section gets is hilarious.
Riewer is right on all accounts here.

kearn1tm
12/04/09, 02:35 PM
well, at least now we have a thread where the OP's list isn't just this year's cookie cutter scene releases.

why yes, i am well aware that my own album falls into that category. thanks in advance for trying to point out my "hypocrisy", though.

Self-aware hypocrisy is still hypocrisy, Ryan! Ooooooooooh!

kearn1tm
12/04/09, 02:36 PM
Another one of these.

Every one is a gift from god, Vinh.

IWasaCamera
12/04/09, 02:48 PM
Every one is a gift from god, Vinh.
A void without a question is just perverse!

kearn1tm
12/04/09, 02:52 PM
A void without a question is just perverse!

Bitch rode a dick like she makin' a baby!

It's from the bonus track on Sometimes I Wish We Were an Eagle."

IWasaCamera
12/04/09, 03:05 PM
Bitch rode a dick like she makin' a baby!

It's from the bonus track on Sometimes I Wish We Were an Eagle."
Is that the All Your Women Things remix? I've heard the guest spots are incredible.

sargentlgfuad
12/04/09, 03:20 PM
Top 40 Albums
40. Dredg - The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion
39. Dance Gavin Dance - Happiness
38. Imogen Heap - Ellipse
37. Kevin Devine - Brother's Blood
36. Sea Wolf - White Water, White Bloom
35. Endless Hallway - Autonomy Games
34. Sherwood - QU
33. Anchor & Braille - Felt
32. Portugal. The Man - The Satanic Satanist
31. There for Tomorrow - A Little Faster
30. Thursday - Common Existence
29. Mutemath - Armistice
28. Set Your Goals - This Will Be the Death of Us
27. Brand New - Daisy
26. Regina Spektor - Far
25. Thrice - Beggars
24. Coconut Records - Davy
23. Say Anything - s/t
22. The Dead Weather - Horehound
21. Person L - The Positives
20. Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You
19. The Airborne Toxic Event - s/t
18. As Tall As Lions - You Can’t Take It With You
17. The Sounds - Crossing the Rubicon
16. Emery - ...In Shallow Seas We Sail
15. Alexisonfire - Old Crows/Young Cardinals
14. So Many Dynamos - The Loud Wars
13. Closure in Moscow - First Temple
12. As Cities Burn - Hell or High Water
11. Paramore - brand new eyes
10. fun. - Aim & Ignite
9. Noah and the Whale - The First Days of Spring
8. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz
7. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
6. Rx Bandits - Mandala
5. Tegan & Sara - Sainthood
4. Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing
3. P.O.S. - Never Better
2. The Dangerous Summer - Reach for the Sun
1. Silversun Pickups - Swoon

Top 7 EPs
7. The Rocket Summer - You Gotta Believe
6. Rookie of the Year - Since I Left Your World
5. VersaEmerge - s/t
4. Death Cab for Cutie - The Open Door
3. The Forecast - Alive for the First Time
2. Bon Iver - Blood Bank
1. Modest Mouse - No One’s First and You’re Next

psu1fan
12/04/09, 07:15 PM
1 - The Antlers - Hospice
2 - Animal Collective - Meriweather Post-Pavilion
3 - Cymbals Eat Guitars - Why There Are Mountains (CHECK THESE GUYS OUT IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY)
4 - Mew - NMSATTISTWANMSTWIGITLWA (But seriously...fuck the album title)
5 - The Mountain Goats - The life of the world to come
6 - This Town Needs Guns - Animals
7 - Silversun Pickups - Swoon
8 - Bon Iver - Blood Bank (I don't care if it's an ep, minus the last song this thing is amazing)
9 - Balmorhea - All is Wild, All is Silent ('Truth' takes my breath everytime)
10 - Andrew Bird - Noble Beast

cshadows2887
12/04/09, 07:43 PM
1 - The Antlers - Hospice
2 - Animal Collective - Meriweather Post-Pavilion
3 - Cymbals Eat Guitars - Why There Are Mountains (CHECK THESE GUYS OUT IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY)
4 - Mew - NMSATTISTWANMSTWIGITLWA (But seriously...fuck the album title)
5 - The Mountain Goats - The life of the world to come
6 - This Town Needs Guns - Animals
7 - Silversun Pickups - Swoon
8 - Bon Iver - Blood Bank (I don't care if it's an ep, minus the last song this thing is amazing)
9 - Balmorhea - All is Wild, All is Silent ('Truth' takes my breath everytime)
10 - Andrew Bird - Noble Beast

You know, I have no use for the songs on this other than the title track and the pretty good "Woods" but I almost put this ony my top ten just because "Blood Bank" is by far the best song of the year.

lowerC
12/04/09, 07:44 PM
1. washed out-life of leisure
2.trey songz-ready
3.tides of man-empire theory
4.brand new-daisy
5.as cities burn- hell or high water
6.kid cudi-man on the moon
7.the color morale- we all have demons
8.grizzly bear-veckatimest
9.dance gavin dance-happiness
10.jonny craig- a dream is a question you don't know how to answer

mymusicismylife
12/04/09, 08:45 PM
Propagandhi - Supporting Caste
Portugal. The Man - The Satanic Satanist
The Number 12 Looks Like You - Worse Than Alone
As Tall As Lions - You Can't Take It With You
Between the Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect
Thursday - Common Existence
Every Time I Die - New Junk Aestethic
The Mars Volta - Octahedron
mewithoutYou - It's All Crazy! It's All False! It's All a Dream! It's Alright.
The Dear Hunter - Act III: Life and Death
Alexisonfire - Old Crows/Young Cardinals
MUTEMATH - Armistice
Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing
Modest Mouse - No One's First and You're Next

wuduprod
12/04/09, 10:18 PM
so.... set your goals going from the next new found glory to deciding to be a mediocre wannabe hardcore band is making people's lists and chasing hamburg by polar bear club is not? you people make no sense at all.

x1onexwo1fx
12/04/09, 10:38 PM
from what i've heard so far of this year, in no particular order...

daisy, beggars, sainthood, mean everything to nothing, brand new eyes. of course, there's kind of a big gap in between brand new eyes and everything else i listed. anyone want to help me fill in that gap?

TCat71
12/04/09, 10:52 PM
ah, i wish more people would give Cassino's Kingprince a listen. I guarantee it would be on most of your lists.

Foosimoo
12/04/09, 10:53 PM
1. Local Natives - Gorilla Manor
2. Castledoor - Shouting at Mountains
3. Harlem Shakes - Technicolor Health
4. Telekinesis - Telekinesis!
5. Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
6. Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing
7. Arctic Monkeys - Humbug
8. Freelance Whales - Weathervanes
9. Bombay Bicycle Club - I Had the Blues But I Shook Them Loose
10. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
11. Passion Pit - Manners
12. Paramore - Brand New Eyes
13. Peter Bjorn and John - Living Thing
14. The Temper Trap - Conditions
15. St. Vincent - Actor

Klatzke
12/04/09, 11:08 PM
1. Castledoor - Shouting at Mountains
2. Harlem Shakes - Technicolor Health
3. Telekinesis - Telekinesis!
4. Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
5. Local Natives - Gorilla Manor
6. Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing
7. Arctic Monkeys - Humbug
8. Freelance Whales - Weathervanes
9. Bombay Bicycle Club - I Had the Blues But I Shook Them Loose
10. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
11. Passion Pit - Manners
12. Paramore - Brand New Eyes
13. Peter Bjorn and John - Living Thing
14. The Temper Trap - Conditions
15. St. Vincent - Actor
fucking yes castledoor. Not my AOTY, but it's a great great album.

Foosimoo
12/04/09, 11:13 PM
fucking yes castledoor. Not my AOTY, but it's a great great album.

Were you the one who made the thread about them? If so, I love you.

Klatzke
12/04/09, 11:13 PM
Were you the one who made the thread about them? If so, I love you.
Yeah, and reviewed both the full length and follow the dove ep.

Foosimoo
12/04/09, 11:17 PM
Yeah, and reviewed both the full length and follow the dove ep.

More people should know about this band. I never see them talked about.

Also, I love this album, but I have to skip the song "Hidden Treasure" every time. I don't know what it is about that song, but I hate it.

Klatzke
12/04/09, 11:19 PM
More people should know about this band. I never see them talked about.

Also, I love this album, but I have to skip the song "Hidden Treasure" every time. I don't know what it is about that song, but I hate it.
That's my favorite song from the album. hahahha. The chorus is great I think, but that's opinion. Anyone who likes Sleeping at Last, Lovedrug or Copeland would love them, but they get skipped over so much.

blebbio
12/05/09, 06:15 AM
How do you guys go about making your lists It's obviously too late to add an album every time you here a new one as the year goes on. I tried making one a few times but gave up because it takes so long to go through all my albums of 2009, pick out all the good ones, then order them.

speed
12/05/09, 06:31 AM
Why does everyone think they're the first person to come up with this oh-so-novel thread idea?

Mostly because they are just soooooo proud of the shitty music they listen to. I'm pretty sure that 99% of people who make these lists listen or pay attention to such a small window of all the music released in a given year that it really makes thier choices of non-value.

Yellowcard2006
12/05/09, 10:09 AM
well, at least now we have a thread where the OP's list isn't just this year's cookie cutter scene releases.

why yes, i am well aware that my own album falls into that category. thanks in advance for trying to point out my "hypocrisy", though.
Don't be silly no one is gonna put your album on a top 10 list



jk

theguy77
12/05/09, 10:09 AM
Don't be silly no one is gonna put your album on a top 10 list

jk

hahaha no they probably wont. i wouldnt.

SophGod
12/05/09, 10:27 AM
1. Common Existence
2. Beggars
3. Mandala
4. Swoon
5. Agents Of The Underground
6. Daisy
7. ...In Shallow Seas We Sail
8. Mean EVerything To Nothing
9. The Blueprint 3
10. reserved for John Nolan's Heights. haven't actually heard it yet, but i have high hopes.

live.
12/05/09, 11:43 AM
I still have to hear the Chamillionaire album before I decide.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:03 PM
Sorry, I was trying to accentuate the order they were in. Tarot Sport is fantastic and one of my favorite albums this year, while Beast Rest Forth Mouth is just completely uninteresting and wouldn't be known by anyone had P4k not BNM'd it. But yeah, the amount of respect their Best New Music section gets is hilarious.

The irony is delicious. Seriously, I want to slather it over my couscous.

briewer
12/05/09, 01:09 PM
The irony is delicious. Seriously, I want to slather it over my couscous.
Please elaborate?

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 01:11 PM
Please elaborate?

OH, OH, OH...

http://animalradio.com/EricStromerMarNL.jpg

YES!! I love this thing.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:12 PM
Please elaborate?

Don't you like a bunch of Pitchfork best music of all time (or this week) rated bands/albums? I mean, I could be wrong.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:12 PM
OH, OH, OH...

http://animalradio.com/EricStromerMarNL.jpg

YES!! I love this thing.

Who is this guy and why do I find him attractive?

briewer
12/05/09, 01:14 PM
Don't you like a bunch of Pitchfork best music of all time (or this week) rated bands/albums? I mean, I could be wrong.
Don't you?

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 01:17 PM
Who is this guy and why do I find him attractive?

His name is apparently Eric Stromer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Stromer), and I can't answer that for you.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:18 PM
Don't you?

I like a fair share, but I'm not telling kids their taste is lame because they discovered an artist through Pitchfork or whatever.

briewer
12/05/09, 01:22 PM
I like a fair share, but I'm not telling kids their taste is lame because they discovered an artist through Pitchfork or whatever.
I said Beast Rest Forth Mouth is lame. I was only insinuating that that album ranks so highly for him because P4k said it should, which, considering what else is on his list, is most likely the case.

IntoTheSun
12/05/09, 01:23 PM
OH, OH, OH...

http://animalradio.com/EricStromerMarNL.jpg

YES!! I love this thing.

Heavily played card, I see.

His name is apparently Eric Stromer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Stromer), and I can't answer that for you.

I swear this said Eric Stoner like a minute ago.

Thesleepingwell
12/05/09, 01:26 PM
Already posted a top ten, but I'll tell you my album of 2009:

Kylesa - Static Tensions

Amazing peice of noise.
Edd recommends.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:27 PM
I said Beast Rest Forth Mouth is lame. I was only insinuating that that album ranks so highly for him because P4k said it should, which, considering what else is on his list, is most likely the case.

Right, you're inferring that he likes what he likes because he discovered it from Pitchfork and enjoys mostly Pitchfork-ian artists. However, many people on this site like marginalized sounds/artists. That doesn't mean they're not sincere about their enjoyment. Pitchfork covers a pretty small and similar range of the medium. It makes sense that a kid who likes the sound would enjoy the majority of the albums they rate highly.

Also, I just find it ironic considering you dig quite a few Pitchfork-esque artists, especially ones that rated highly on the site. I mean, Fuck Buttons, dude? C'mon.

briewer
12/05/09, 01:38 PM
Right, you're inferring that he likes what he likes because he discovered it from Pitchfork and enjoys mostly Pitchfork-ian artists. However, many people on this site like marginalized sounds/artists. That doesn't mean they're not sincere about their enjoyment. Pitchfork covers a pretty small and similar range of the medium. It makes sense that a kid who likes the sound would enjoy the majority of the albums they rate highly.
I was saying Beast Rest Forth Mouth not a good album. I don't know how you got any of that out of what I said.

Also, I just find it ironic considering you dig quite a few Pitchfork-esque artists, especially ones that rated highly on the site. I mean, Fuck Buttons, dude? C'mon.
What? So I can't disagree with a what Pitchfork said about one album because I agree with what I said about another? What are you implying?

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 01:46 PM
I was saying Beast Rest Forth Mouth not a good album. I don't know how you got any of that out of what I said.


What? So I can't disagree with a what Pitchfork said about one album because I agree with what I said about another? What are you implying?

I hate to force myself upon this exchange, but I think Todd's simply pointing out that, yeah, his list could look like a typical, "Pitchfork likes this, so I do, too" list, but the same could be said about you. It's ironic that you'd make such a statement when such a statement could possibly be equally valid the other way as well.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:47 PM
I was saying Beast Rest Forth Mouth not a good album. I don't know how you got any of that out of what I said.


What? So I can't disagree with a what Pitchfork said about one album because I agree with what I said about another? What are you implying?

How about this:

Sorry, I was trying to accentuate the order they were in. Tarot Sport is fantastic and one of my favorite albums this year, while Beast Rest Forth Mouth is just completely uninteresting and wouldn't be known by anyone had P4k not BNM'd it. But yeah, the amount of respect their Best New Music section gets is hilarious.
It would appear, from your phrasing, that there's something inherently wrong about finding out about an artist from Pitchfork and then you followed it up with this post:

I said Beast Rest Forth Mouth is lame. I was only insinuating that that album ranks so highly for him because P4k said it should, which, considering what else is on his list, is most likely the case.

I don't understand where your confusion lies. You claim he only likes what he likes (or likes it to such a degree) because it's a Pitchfork-hyped band, and your support is that his list is comprised of Pitchfork bands.

I'm saying, you have no clue whether he sincerely likes those artists or if he merely places them on his list because of Pitchfork's praise. Also, it's ironic because this is your list:

Pending radical edits which are bound to happen:

01. Dirty Projectors- Bitte Orca
02. Fuck Buttons- Tarot Sport
03. Atlas Sound- Logos
04. Wild Beasts- Two Dancers
05. The Antlers- Hospice
06. Taken By Trees- East of Eden
07. Animal Collective- Merriweather Post Pavilion
08. Bill Callahan- Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle
09. The Flaming Lips- Embryonic
10. Talk Normal- Sugarland

This is mostly comprised of albums that scored very well on Pitchfork's site. By your own criteria, you only like them because of Pitchfork's generous scores.

ruffian
12/05/09, 01:47 PM
Why are people so self-conscious of what they enjoy? Why must people evaluate their taste in relation to how it is perceived by P4k/the masses? Theses are the questions we think about.

briewer
12/05/09, 01:50 PM
I hate to force myself upon this exchange, but I think Todd's simply pointing out that, yeah, his list could look like a typical, "Pitchfork likes this, so I do, too" list, but the same could be said about you. It's ironic that you'd make such a statement when such a statement could possibly be equally valid the other way as well.
I suppose, but then I could also apply that title to Todd also.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 01:52 PM
I suppose, but then I could also apply that title to Todd also.

Again, you're missing the point.

EDIT, and though it's not the point, my list is less-Pitchfory than yours (oooh, cred!), not that it matters:

Seeing as how this has devovled into a list thread, I ay as well throw it out if for nothing else than someone will discuss their mutual enjoyment of some of the selections (it continues to change because of the massive stockpile of albums I've been giving attention to, but this looks to be the finalized list for the year, at this point):

1. Bill Callahan -- "Sometimes I Wish We Were an Eagle"
2. John Zorn -- "Alhambra Love Songs"
3. Fake Problems – “It's Great to Be Alive”
4. Thee Oh Sees – “Help”
5. Nick Cave & Warren Ellis -- "White Lunar"
6. Jim O'Rourke -- "The Visitor"
7. Kurt Vile – “God is Saying This to You…”
8. Ben Frost -- "By the Throat"
9. Black Lips – “200 Million Thousand”
10. Screaming Females -- "Power Move"

Honerable Mentions:
Dead Man's Bones -- "Dead Man's Bones" (just three weeks ago, this was at number two, until some more spins of a lot of other albums and a lack of "staying power" hindered its standings, but it's still near the top ten at eleven)
Christopher Tignor -- "Core Memory Unwound"
Allen Toussaint -- "The Great Mississippi"
Theophilus London -- "This Charming Mixtape"
Rameses III -- "I Could Not Love You More"

Half of my Top Ten wasn't reviewed by that site, and of the other half, only one was a "Best New Music" selection.

ThisIsNotDan
12/05/09, 01:55 PM
Mostly because they are just soooooo proud of the shitty music they listen to. I'm pretty sure that 99% of people who make these lists listen or pay attention to such a small window of all the music released in a given year that it really makes thier choices of non-value.

none of these lists have "value." no one in here is a music critic. its just people discussing what albums they liked and getting recs from others, but I guess you're too busy being "edgy" to notice that...

briewer
12/05/09, 02:00 PM
How about this:


It would appear, from your phrasing, that there's something inherently wrong about finding out about an artist from Pitchfork and then you followed it up with this post:



I don't understand where your confusion lies. You claim he only likes what he likes (or likes it to such a degree) because it's a Pitchfork-hyped band, and your support is that his list is comprised of Pitchfork bands.

I'm saying, you have no clue whether he sincerely likes those artists or if he merely places them on his list because of Pitchfork's praise. Also, it's ironic because this is your list:



This is mostly comprised of albums that scored very well on Pitchfork's site. By your own criteria, you only like them because of Pitchfork's generous scores.
I guess so, but what I was really trying to get at is the fact that BRFM is being praised only by P4k. I mean, go ahead and look at the Metacritic pages of the albums I ranked, everyone agrees that they are good. I could have gotten my music from a hundred different sources, and it just so happens that P4k agrees with most of the ten. But have heard of Bear In Heaven from anyone other than P4k? The fact that he's praising them or at least aware of their existence has to be through pitchfork, because no one else is talking about them. Sure, you could say I generally like the music from Pitchfork, but the music I like from Pitchfork is almost universally liked by critics too.

Also, and this might put my bashing into context, I have The Hazards of Love, The Floodlight Collective, and Get Color all in my top 20 (as of now, at least), all albums that P4k was indifferent to or hated.

briewer
12/05/09, 02:07 PM
Why are people so self-conscious of what they enjoy? Why must people evaluate their taste in relation to how it is perceived by P4k/the masses? Theses are the questions we think about.
So you know that what you enjoy is what you really enjoy, not just because others tell you to.

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 02:10 PM
I guess so, but what I was really trying to get at is the fact that BRFM is being praised only by P4k. I mean, go ahead and look at the Metacritic pages of the albums I ranked, everyone agrees that they are good. I could have gotten my music from a hundred different sources, and it just so happens that P4k agrees with most of the ten. But have heard of Bear In Heaven from anyone other than P4k? The fact that he's praising them or at least aware of their existence has to be through pitchfork, because no one else is talking about them. Sure, you could say I generally like the music from Pitchfork, but the music I like from Pitchfork is almost universally liked by critics too.

Also, and this might put my bashing into context, I have The Hazards of Love, The Floodlight Collective, and Get Color all in my top 20 (as of now, at least), all albums that P4k was indifferent to or hated.

I have to go rock out to sick breakdowns from Jesus Wept tonight, but I'll jump in one more time to say this: So what if he likes something that only Pitchfork hypes? Is that really important? If it's what you like, it's what you like. One of my best friends only listens to music on the radio, but that's because he's heard other music and doesn't like it as much, not because he's basing his taste off the radio. The sound and aesthetic they present is just what he prefers. That could easily be the chance here as well.

ruffian
12/05/09, 02:11 PM
So you know that what you enjoy is what you really enjoy, not just because others tell you to.

so you check pitchfork regularly, but still think that your taste is unaffected by them?

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:12 PM
Again, you're missing the point.

EDIT, and though it's not the point, my list is less-Pitchfory than yours (oooh, cred!), not that it matters:



Half of my Top Ten wasn't reviewed by that site, and of the other half, only one was a "Best New Music" selection.
Oh shit man you like Screaming Females! You rule.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:13 PM
I guess so, but what I was really trying to get at is the fact that BRFM is being praised only by P4k. I mean, go ahead and look at the Metacritic pages of the albums I ranked, everyone agrees that they are good. I could have gotten my music from a hundred different sources, and it just so happens that P4k agrees with most of the ten.

Again, I say the following:

Firstly, it's unfair to assume that this kid merely rates that album so high because of Pitchfork, regardless of the fact that they're the only one cabal of critics to find it that enjoyable. Moreover, as stated earlier, Pitchfork generally covers a rather marginalized sect of the medium. It isn't much of a stretch to believe that a person who likes a specific kind of music would read Pitchfork, as it covers the genres/sounds/aesthetic they dig, so I'd reckon it's more of a syncing of tastes.

I think it's disingenuous to spout off that he must like this album because the only critics that adore it are Pitchfork writers.

Also, why does it matter if more than just Pitchfork hypes Animal Collective or Dirty Projectors. Hell, there was an interview with Avey Tare a year or so ago (right before Merriweather dropped) claiming that Pitchfork was instrumental in getting AC accepted and proliferated the "sound" they helped to cultivate in the indie scene with other artists.

Ultimately, rags like Entertainment Weekly wouldn't pick up on the artists you list on your Top Ten had it not been for Pitchfork and the blogosphere hyping them earlier. They're very much "pitchfork bands" in that sense. This is semantics. What I find a bit distasteful is your need to belittle this kid's taste and choice because "Pitchfork was the only one to hype them."

But have heard of Bear In Heaven from anyone other than P4k?

Allmusic, for one, which is largely more important, has been around much longer, and is much more extensive and renowned than Pitchfork, among other blogosphere sites like Unsound, Toro and Sputnik.

The fact that he's praising them or at least aware of their existence has to be through pitchfork

This is an absurd statement. The internet has made it where no one site is needed for an artist to flourish. He could have easily heard of them from friends, from their myspace, from, again, Allmusic, or eMusic making them a featured artist for a week (the second largest online digital distribution site) or Sputnik or Toro or any of the other prominent mp3 blogs or seeing them open up for another band, etc.

because no one else is talking about them.

This is false.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:17 PM
Oh shit man you like Screaming Females! You rule.
Fuck yes. I wish more people jumped on them. You'd think opening up for such a big named consortium of rockstars in the Dead Weather would give them a boost. They were dropped from their label a month ago.

briewer
12/05/09, 02:19 PM
so you check pitchfork regularly, but still think that your taste is unaffected by them?
No, I don't think my tastes are affected by them. I think my opinion of an album can certainly become bloated because someone else says it's really good, and that's why I try to stay aware of the context and nature with which I find music. Like, if P4k had given something a 2.0 rather than a 9.0, would I still like it as much? That sort of thing.

Didn't you just answer your original question?

avenge the dead
12/05/09, 02:19 PM
so.... set your goals going from the next new found glory to deciding to be a mediocre wannabe hardcore band is making people's lists and chasing hamburg by polar bear club is not? you people make no sense at all.

TRUTH.

If I bothered to make a list... PBC would most definitely be on it.
SYG was a minor disappointment.

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:20 PM
Fuck yes. I wish more people jumped on them. You'd think opening up for such a big named consortium of rockstars in the Dead Weather would give them a boost. They were dropped from their label a month ago.
What label? I know they're still with Don Giovanni Recs... Yea I made a thread about them in general and bumped it a bunch of times but no one ever posted in it haha.

ruffian
12/05/09, 02:21 PM
Fuck yes. I wish more people jumped on them. You'd think opening up for such a big named consortium of rockstars in the Dead Weather would give them a boost. They were dropped from their label a month ago.

I don't think they were dropped, I think it was by choice. But yeah, great band, put on an awesome show.

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:23 PM
I don't think they were dropped, I think it was by choice. But yeah, great band, put on an awesome show.
Yea their live show is pretty amazing. I see you're from Jersey, you ever go see them in New Brunswick?

ruffian
12/05/09, 02:25 PM
Yea their live show is pretty amazing. I see you're from Jersey, you ever go see them in New Brunswick?

I live in nb, so yeah. Not in a while though. :(

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:26 PM
No, I don't think my tastes are affected by them. I think my opinion of an album can certainly become bloated because someone else says it's really good, and that's why I try to stay aware of the context and nature with which I find music. Like, if P4k had given something a 2.0 rather than a 9.0, would I still like it as much? That sort of thing.

Didn't you just answer your original question?

I'm just using this as a base for my own opinion, and not aimed at you in the slightest, but I find that that hyping up an album is pretty much how early-twenties music-philes talk. It's all hyperbole. If the music is profound, then by extension your taste will be profound.

I'm so guilty of this. "[x] album is brilliant." If I say this then what I love becomes (or I attempt to make it appear) brilliant by proxy.

Again, not aimed at you Brian, but I see it so much on this board, in conversations with my friends, in the way I describe music, and in the facebook status I just made.

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:27 PM
I live in nb, so yeah. Not in a while though. :(
Nice, I live like 20 mins away. I haven't seen em recently either, although I did see them open for Jay Reatard in Brooklyn during the summer.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:31 PM
What label? I know they're still with Don Giovanni Recs... Yea I made a thread about them in general and bumped it a bunch of times but no one ever posted in it haha.

I rarely post in General. Sorry I missed it. I was under the impression that they'd been dropped by Don Giovanni following a post by King Mike on Sputnik in which he said they were severely over-projected for sales following the announcement of touring with the Dead Weather, and that there was a strong possibility this may be their last record with the label (technically, it would be their only, as it only started distributing What if Someone is Watching Their T.V. after the release of Power Move). I could be wrong.

I don't think they were dropped, I think it was by choice. But yeah, great band, put on an awesome show.

Yeah, you're right. I guess I just assumed that, because it was mentioned that they sold less than projected, the label dropped them. I hope that's not the case.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:32 PM
Nice, I live like 20 mins away. I haven't seen em recently either, although I did see them open for Jay Reatard in Brooklyn during the summer.

So, have you listened to the two earlier albums? If so, how are they? I'm very high on Power Move, which makes me more apt to check out their prior releases.

briewer
12/05/09, 02:32 PM
Again, I say the following:

Firstly, it's unfair to assume that this kid merely rates that album so high because of Pitchfork, regardless of the fact that they're the only one cabal of critics to find it that enjoyable. Moreover, as stated earlier, Pitchfork generally covers a rather marginalized sect of the medium. It isn't much of a stretch to believe that a person who likes a specific kind of music would read Pitchfork, as it covers the genres/sounds/aesthetic they dig, so I'd reckon it's more of a syncing of tastes.

I think it's disingenuous to spout off that he must like this album because the only critics that adore it are Pitchfork writers.
Sure, I could see that in my case, where my entire list is "P4k-approved" for the most part, but his list isn't:

1. Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything To Nothing
2. The Dead Weather - Horehound
3. Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg
4. dredg - The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion
5. Every Time I Die - The New Junk Aesthetic
6. Kevin Devine - Brother's Blood
7. Portugal. The Man - The Satanic Satanist
8. Brand New - Daisy
9. Bear In Heaven - Beast Rest Fort Mouth
10. fun. - Aim and Ignite
11. Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport
12. Muse - The Resistance
13. MewithoutYou - It's All Crazy! It's All False! It's All a Dream! It's Alright
14. Thrice - Beggars
15. Emery - ...In Shallow Seas We Sail
16. 311 - Uplifter
17. Tegan and Sara - Sainthood
18. MC Lars - This Gigantic Robot Kills
19. Say Anything - Say Anything
20. Dashboard Confessional - Alter the Ending

18 AP-approved albums, two BNM'd P4k albums. Sure, this could be a coincidence, but COME ON.

Also, why does it matter if more than just Pitchfork hypes Animal Collective or Dirty Projectors. Hell, there was an interview with Avey Tare a year or so ago (right before Merriweather dropped) claiming that Pitchfork was instrumental in getting AC accepted and proliferated the "sound" they helped to cultivate in the indie scene with other artists.
Because saying they're "P4k-approved" bands only is false. They're universally approved.

This is semantics. What I find a bit distasteful is your need to belittle this kid's taste and choice because "Pitchfork was the only one to hype them."
I'm not. That albums sucks, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying that he likes it because Pitchfork does. I could just say he has a shitty taste in music, if that makes you feel any better.

Allmusic, for one, which is largely more important, has been around much longer, and is much more extensive and renowned than Pitchfork,
...and gave it only three and a half stars.

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:33 PM
I rarely post in General. Sorry I missed it. I was under the impression that they'd been dropped by Don Giovanni following a post by King Mike on Sputnik in which he said they were severely over-projected for sales following the announcement of touring with the Dead Weather, and that there was a strong possibility this may be their last record with the label (technically, it would be their only, as it only started distributing What if Someone is Watching Their T.V. after the release of Power Move). I could be wrong.



Yeah, you're right. I guess I just assumed that, because it was mentioned that they sold less than projected, the label dropped them. I hope that's not the case.
Hmm yea Idk I didn't hear about that, but they are putting out a singles album on Don Giovanni and playing their showcase in February.

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:35 PM
So, have you listened to the two earlier albums? If so, how are they? I'm very high on Power Move, which makes me more apt to check out their prior releases.
Yea they're both good. I think Power Move is definitely their best overall, but there's great songs on both of their earlier ones. And actually, some of my favorite songs are on their 7" singles and splits, so I recommend trying to get your hands on those. Or just wait for the singles cd:

http://www.dongiovannirecords.com/blog/uploaded_images/sfsingles-794430.gif

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:36 PM
Sure, I could see that in my case, where my entire list is "P4k-approved" for the most part, but his list isn't:



18 AP-approved albums, two BNM'd P4k albums. Sure, this could be a coincidence, but COME ON.


Because saying they're "P4k-approved" bands only is false. They're universally approved.


I'm not. That albums sucks, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying that he likes it because Pitchfork does. I could just say he has a shitty taste in music, if that makes you feel any better.


...and gave it only three and a half stars.
Dead Weather got best new music?

briewer
12/05/09, 02:39 PM
I'm just using this as a base for my own opinion, and not aimed at you in the slightest, but I find that that hyping up an album is pretty much how early-twenties music-philes talk. It's all hyperbole. If the music is profound, then by extension your taste will be profound.

I'm so guilty of this. "[x] album is brilliant." If I say this then what I love becomes (or I attempt to make it appear) brilliant by proxy.

Again, not aimed at you Brian, but I see it so much on this board, in conversations with my friends, in the way I describe music, and in the facebook status I just made.
I don't think I fully understand what you're getting at.

Dead Weather got best new music?
Nah, Tarot Sport and Beast Rest Forth Mouth.

ruffian
12/05/09, 02:40 PM
So, have you listened to the two earlier albums? If so, how are they? I'm very high on Power Move, which makes me more apt to check out their prior releases.

What If Some Is Watching Their T.V.? is my favorite by them. Probably have to order it online or pick it up at a show though.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:41 PM
Sure, I could see that in my case, where my entire list is "P4k-approved" for the most part, but his list isn't:



18 AP-approved albums, two BNM'd P4k albums. Sure, this could be a coincidence, but COME ON.

Come on what? I don't think this makes a good argument.

In 2007, in this odd displacement of compartmentalized taste, following my 20th birthday, I started listening less to scene music, and more to predominantly blogosphere/pitchfork-hyped artists. I still had a lot of scene fare in my Top 20 of the year list, but I had Justice's album and Battles latest in there, because I'd been directed to the site, they wrote about the albums, it seemed like something cool, I checked them out and loved each album.

You're stretching more than Ralph Dibney.


Because saying they're "P4k-approved" bands only is false. They're universally approved.
They certainly were, but that doesn't at all validate you tearing on the kid.


I'm not. That albums sucks, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying that he likes it because Pitchfork does. I could just say he has a shitty taste in music, if that makes you feel any better.
This isn't about making me feel better. It's about how incredibly pretentious you sound. One insult is more passive-aggressive, the other is just inflammatory. I don't see how any one is less hostile or, you know, affected. On one hand, you claim he only likes what he likes because of Pitchfork's high score,so you're saying he doesn't value the music, but the cred, and you're doing it based on an assumption predicated on virtually nothing. The other comment would be an insult in which you filter his likes through your own and make a deliberately assholeish remark.

Look, I think you listen to a small, boring segment of music and some of the stuff you like, I find really, really lame. I don't make that comment often, and really, it's only by comparing your likes/taste/criteria for "quality" to my likes/taste/criteria for "quality." I don't feel anything is accomplished by saying "your taste sucks." Why would you? I mean, does it validate your own likes any more or does it just make you sound like an asshole? You're better than this. I know you are.


...and gave it only three and a half stars.
Out of five. I'm certainly no math major (as I abhor math with the heat of a thousand suns), but that would be a 7.0. That's a pretty darn good score, and it also places emphasis on a number, the value of which varies by writer, site, etc. Did you read the review? It seems pretty glowing.

fake empire
12/05/09, 02:45 PM
I don't think I fully understand what you're getting at.


Nah, Tarot Sport and Beast Rest Forth Mouth.
Ohh ok

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 02:46 PM
Hmm yea Idk I didn't hear about that, but they are putting out a singles album on Don Giovanni and playing their showcase in February.

Hey man, you know more about it than I do then. That was all what I gleamed from a little blurb on Sputnik, and I read some stuff into that. It's good to hear they're still with the label and getting support.

Yea they're both good. I think Power Move is definitely their best overall, but there's great songs on both of their earlier ones. And actually, some of my favorite songs are on their 7" singles and splits, so I recommend trying to get your hands on those. Or just wait for the singles cd:

http://www.dongiovannirecords.com/blog/uploaded_images/sfsingles-794430.gif

I broke my turntable, so I'll have to settle for the singles. Thanks man.

I don't think I fully understand what you're getting at.

Oh, that was not aimed at you in the slightest, and I hope you don't think that was my attempt at arguing with you. Rather, it was merely my own musing at no one in particular.

I think many 20something music enthusiasts (this is predicated solely on my own interaction with friends, this site, other musicphiles) tend to speak about ablums they dig with hyperbolic praise, to give it more of a sense of profoundness that somehow makes their taste appear to be thoughtful and artistically-deep by extension.

I could be talking out of my ass, but I know I do it often, I know my friends do it.

What If Some Is Watching Their T.V.? is my favorite by them. Probably have to order it online or pick it up at a show though.

I should have picked it up at the merch table when I saw them with the Dead Weather. Thanks for the rec.

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:07 PM
This is probably my top 25 at the moment. Could end up changing.

1. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
2. Grizzly Bear- Veckatimest
3. Ganglians - Monster Head Room
4. St. Vincent - Actor
5. Yo La Tengo - Popular Songs
6. The Thermals - Now We Can See
7. Screaming Females - Power Move
8.Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
9. Dinosaur Jr. - Farm
10. Ganglians - S/T
11. The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - S/T
12. The King Khan & BBQ Show - Invisible Girl
13. Jay Reatard - Watch Me Fall
14. The Dutchess and the Duke - Sunset/Sunrise
15. The Raveonettes - In and Out of Control
16. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz!
17. Akron/Family - Set 'Em Wild, Set 'Em Free
18. Kurt Vile - Childish Prodigy
19. Smith Westerns - S/T
20. Jeff the Brotherhood - Heavy Days
21. Girls - S/T
22. Thee Oh Sees - Help
23. Wavves - Wavvves
24. Dan Deacon - Bromst
25. Black Moth Super Rainbow - Eating Us

Other albums I dug:

Dead Weather - Horehound
Bo Burnham - S/T
Woods - Songs of Shame
Real Estate - S/T
Passion Pit - Manners
Mos Def - The Ecstatic
J Dilla - Jay Stay Paid
Vivian Girls - Everything Goes Wrong
Metric - Fantasies
The Lonely Island - Incredibad
Neko Case - Middle Cyclone
Silversun Pickups - Swoon

Eps, 7 inches, 10 inches, and that kinda shit:

Animal Collective - Fall Be Kind
Dum Dum Girls - S/T
Best Coast - When I'm With You
The Mayfair Set - Young Ones
Ganglians 7"
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Higher than Stars
Bon Iver - Blood Bank
Screaming Females/Full of Fancy 7"
Screaming Females/Jeff the Brotherhood 7"
Thom Yorke - feeling pulled apart by horses

Feel free to talk some smack!

ThisIsNotDan
12/05/09, 03:10 PM
good looks on the Dino Jr. album. that rules

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:11 PM
Thanks yo. Yea it's quite good I think.

briewer
12/05/09, 03:13 PM
This isn't about making me feel better. It's about how incredibly pretentious you sound. One insult is more passive-aggressive, the other is just inflammatory. I don't see how any one is less hostile or, you know, affected. On one hand, you claim he only likes what he likes because of Pitchfork's high score,so you're saying he doesn't value the music, but the cred, and you're doing it based on an assumption predicated on virtually nothing. The other comment would be an insult in which you filter his likes through your own and make a deliberately assholeish remark.

Look, I think you listen to a small, boring segment of music and some of the stuff you like, I find really, really lame. I don't make that comment often, and really, it's only by comparing your likes/taste/criteria for "quality" to my likes/taste/criteria for "quality." I don't feel anything is accomplished by saying "your taste sucks." Why would you? I mean, does it validate your own likes any more or does it just make you sound like an asshole? You're better than this. I know you are.
I know, and this whole argument really sprouted from nothing. I don't really care where this guy heard of this band or this album from (though I still think P4k is the most likely culprit), the fact of the matter is that I don't think it's good. I made a comment about why he might like it, which really was unrelated to what I meant, which was, this album's bad. Really, this whole thing was more about pride than anything, because to be honest I could give a shit about the relative merits of music sources.

Look, I think you listen to a small, boring segment of music and some of the stuff you like, I find really, really lame.
Like what? I'm curious.

Oh, that was not aimed at you in the slightest, and I hope you don't think that was my attempt at arguing with you. Rather, it was merely my own musing at no one in particular.

I think many 20something music enthusiasts (this is predicated solely on my own interaction with friends, this site, other musicphiles) tend to speak about ablums they dig with hyperbolic praise, to give it more of a sense of profoundness that somehow makes their taste appear to be thoughtful and artistically-deep by extension.

I could be talking out of my ass, but I know I do it often, I know my friends do it.
I know, I just don't get what point you're trying to make. I mean, how are people supposed to speak about music they like?

ThisIsNotDan
12/05/09, 03:13 PM
but honestly, who gives a fuck if someone has a list that is mostly Pitchfork-approved or AP-approved album? some people aren't going to go out of their way to scour all the awesome music blogs out there for bands/albums a lot of people have heard of, it's no big deal

ThisIsNotDan
12/05/09, 03:15 PM
Thanks yo. Yea it's quite good I think.

have you seen the video for "Over It"? besides having one of the most awesome guitar licks of any song this year, it's a pretty cool vid

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:16 PM
have you seen the video for "Over It"? besides having one of the most awesome guitar licks of any song this year, it's a pretty cool vid
Nope, not yet. I'll check it out.

briewer
12/05/09, 03:17 PM
This is probably my top 25 at the moment. Could end up changing.

1. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
2. Grizzly Bear- Veckatimest
3. Ganglians - Monster Head Room
4. St. Vincent - Actor
5. Yo La Tengo - Popular Songs
6. The Thermals - Now We Can See
7. Screaming Females - Power Move
8.Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
9. Dinosaur Jr. - Farm
10. Ganglians - S/T
11. The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - S/T
12. The King Khan & BBQ Show - Invisible Girl
13. Jay Reatard - Watch Me Fall
14. The Dutchess and the Duke - Sunset/Sunrise
15. The Raveonettes - In and Out of Control
16. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz!
17. Akron/Family - Set 'Em Wild, Set 'Em Free
18. Kurt Vile - Childish Prodigy
19. Smith Westerns - S/T
20. Jeff the Brotherhood - Heavy Days
21. Girls - S/T
22. Thee Oh Sees - Help
23. Wavves - Wavvves
24. Dan Deacon - Bromst
25. Black Moth Super Rainbow - Eating Us

Other albums I dug:

Dead Weather - Horehound
Bo Burnham - S/T
Woods - Songs of Shame
Real Estate - S/T
Passion Pit - Manners
Mos Def - The Ecstatic
J Dilla - Jay Stay Paid
Vivian Girls - Everything Goes Wrong
Metric - Fantasies
The Lonely Island - Incredibad
Neko Case - Middle Cyclone
Silversun Pickups - Swoon

Eps, 7 inches, 10 inches, and that kinda shit:

Animal Collective - Fall Be Kind
Dum Dum Girls - S/T
Best Coast - When I'm With You
The Mayfair Set - Young Ones
Ganglians 7"
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Higher than Stars
Bon Iver - Blood Bank
Screaming Females/Full of Fancy 7"
Screaming Females/Jeff the Brotherhood 7"
Thom Yorke - feeling pulled apart by horses

Feel free to talk some smack!
Meh. I've already spoken to you about this so I can't say I'm particularly surprised by any of these, though Bromst does stick out as an odd choice in relation to the rest of your list.

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:19 PM
Meh. I've already spoken to you about this so I can't say I'm particularly surprised by any of these, though Bromst does stick out as an odd choice in relation to the rest of your list.
I remember you talking shit on Ganglians, but I don't think most of these other bands sound like them...

ThisIsNotDan
12/05/09, 03:22 PM
Nope, not yet. I'll check it out.

also, who is in your avatar?

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:22 PM
also, who is in your avatar?
Brian Wilson

briewer
12/05/09, 03:24 PM
I remember you talking shit on Ganglians, but I don't think most of these other bands sound like them...
I wasn't talking shit about them or at least didn't mean to come across that way, I just thought it was absurd to think that they are any much different from Woods in terms of quality. I like both enough, though. And yeah, it's not that the other bands sound much like them, it's just kind of what I would expect someone who likes Ganglians to also like.

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:28 PM
I wasn't talking shit about them or at least didn't mean to come across that way, I just thought it was absurd to think that they are any much different from Woods in terms of quality. I like both enough, though. And yeah, it's not that the other bands sound much like them, it's just kind of what I would expect someone who likes Ganglians to also like.
Ohh yea well I like Ganglians quite a bit more than Woods, but Woods is cool too. I do like most of the stuff listed in your profile. I need to give the Dirty Projectors album some more spins and I haven't gotten around to listening to the Flaming Lips one yet.

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 03:38 PM
I know, and this whole argument really sprouted from nothing. I don't really care where this guy heard of this band or this album from (though I still think P4k is the most likely culprit), the fact of the matter is that I don't think it's good.

You don't feel an artist is good? Cool. Was it at all necessary, did it contribute anything to the discussion and was it anything but an inflammatory comment to claim (not even imply, but claim) the only reason he likes what he likes is because Pitchfork told him, especially when I dug up other sites that praise the album too, or that there's many other avenues of exposure for the artist than Pitchfork?

Moreover, I'd argue that it's less likely he name-dropped the album from pitchfork if his list is predominantly scene music. If he cared about what Pitchfork thinks about albums, why would he be so high on Manchester Orchestra's latest, which Pitchfork shit on?

Regardless, it's insulting without a strong foundation. If you disagree, whatever, cool. It's not as if you have to tailor your responses to others to what I think, but I certainly will call it into question if I read it.

I made a comment about why he might like it
You said he only listed the band because it was hyped by Pitchfork, which takes the whole "liking factor" out of it. He may have liked it because he read about it in Pitchfork and picked up the album, and there's nothing wrong with that. You stated he only listed it because Pitchfork gave it a glowing score.


which really was unrelated to what I meant
Which makes it more of a cheap shot.

which was, this album's bad. Really, this whole thing was more about pride than anything, because to be honest I could give a shit about the relative merits of music sources.
The merits of music souces play an integral part of where this conversation was heading. Regardless, this has nothing to do with pride on my end, in all honesty.

Like what? I'm curious.
I don't like most of what Animal Collective has done. I don't think they're experimental (which, judging from critics and pundits write-ups, seems to be their biggest selling point). By my estimation, they're released some solid albums. Broken Social Scene, to my ears, is not unlike most indie pop rock bands, but doesn't have the catchiness to make me care. I read reviews about You Forgot It in People that assert it's a wildly diverse (within the confines of the tracks in the album itself) and ambitious project, and it doesn't translate to me. It's okay, I guess.

Grizzly Bear are one of those crossover indie acts that bores me to tears.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs are one of those Post-Punk/Garage Revival acts from earlier in the year that divert attention from what I think are much, much better acts that are truer to the roots and sound of artists like The Shaggs, The Seeds, The Count Five, etc.

I'm not high on anything Stevens has done outside Seven Swan. Wilco was rad for two albums, the rest is tedious adult-contemporary rock. A Ghost is Born was the most mediocre Bob Seger album he and the Silver Bullet Band never released thirty years prior.

Deerhunter and Fuck Buttons do nothing for me. I mean, I could continue, but why? Really, this is nothing more than a reflection of my own tastes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your list, beyond the fact that it doesn't really appeal to me (though you obviously have stuff I dig, like Newsom, the Stooges, Oldham, The Field, Bowie, Boards of Canada, among others).


I know, I just don't get what point you're trying to make. I mean, how are people supposed to speak about music they like?
There isn't a "way" people are supposed to talk, but I do notice people in my age range try to give their adored albums a seemingly embellished sense of depth. The greatest example is Garden State (a movie built on a sentimental sensibility I adore, despite how annoying it is). Portman's now-infamous line about New Slang being life-changing. Instead of talking about the music, and the aspects of the music that they find good, they ascribe ethereal properties to the album that transcend the actual content and give it a level of affected-depth. "New Slang is good because [components of the song] and it makes me feel [emotion]" is not common, but what is, at least from my observations is "New Slang is life-altering." It gives the album and the listeners taste a weight and depth because it's not "good" because of "reasons," it's "life-altering."

kearn1tm
12/05/09, 03:44 PM
6. The Thermals - Now We Can See
7. Screaming Females - Power Move
9. Dinosaur Jr. - Farm
12. The King Khan & BBQ Show - Invisible Girl
13. Jay Reatard - Watch Me Fall
18. Kurt Vile - Childish Prodigy
23. Wavves - Wavvves
Dead Weather - Horehound
Vivian Girls - Everything Goes Wrong
Neko Case - Middle Cyclone


I'm a big fan of these albums. Good stuff, man. Did you check out the new albums from Strange Boys, Black Lips, Heartless Bastards, Janet Weiss, the Fresh & Onlys and the Soft Pack (formerly The Muslims)? There was a lot of good Garage Revival stuff released this year, but you're probably hip to that.

fake empire
12/05/09, 03:46 PM
I'm a big fan of these albums. Good stuff, man. Did you check out the new albums from Strange Boys, Black Lips, Heartless Bastards, Janet Weiss, the Fresh & Onlys and the Soft Pack (formerly The Muslims)? There was a lot of good Garage Revival stuff released this year, but you're probably hip to that.
I liked the Black Lips album, guess I kinda forgot about it when making the list. Heartless Bastards is good, but I haven't listened to it in so long, I need to check it out again. I recently got the new Fresh & Onlys album. I only listened once, so I need to give that some more listens too. Sounded good though. I'll check out the other ones though, thanks for the recs.

Pat k
12/05/09, 04:07 PM
Spinning the new Raekwon, and it is fucking awesome. I'm pleased he did a good job with this.

pleasedontask
12/05/09, 04:55 PM
I didn't really listen to/enjoy too much of this year's releases, although I was a fan of Forget and Not Slow Down.

Pat k
12/05/09, 05:16 PM
Now Spinning Lucky Old Sun by Brian Wilson- very enjoyable.

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 08:44 PM
I'm just using this as a base for my own opinion, and not aimed at you in the slightest, but I find that that hyping up an album is pretty much how early-twenties music-philes talk. It's all hyperbole. If the music is profound, then by extension your taste will be profound.

I'm so guilty of this. "[x] album is brilliant." If I say this then what I love becomes (or I attempt to make it appear) brilliant by proxy.

Again, not aimed at you Brian, but I see it so much on this board, in conversations with my friends, in the way I describe music, and in the facebook status I just made.

I say this kind of stuff about my favorite music all the time, but I never mean it in the deeper sense that you're discussing. It's just a really fun way to say that I like an album. Like you said, it's hyperbole, and I think the hyperbole is strong enough to be recognized as such. It'd be one thing to say that an album's the best or one of the best of the year, but when descriptions like "amazing," "brilliant," "greatest of all time," and "life-changing" are thrown out, I think it basically just communicates the message, "I enjoy this a lot."

11. The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - S/T

The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Higher than Stars

I like what I've heard of them, but although I'm really new to the shoegaze genre, they still don't strike me as anything too special. I've gone back to listen to them a few times, though, so that's gotta be worth something, right?

Speaking of this genre, have you heard The Fauns' self-titled debut? I got it recently after hearing about them in the shoegaze thread and love it so far.

XhVkiOar0Ew

IntoTheSun
12/05/09, 08:48 PM
My Bloody Valentine bores me on most occasions.

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 09:08 PM
My Bloody Valentine bores me on most occasions.

WHAT!? NO!!! Your taste isn't in sync with mine. You must be stoned!

I like them, but while they have some sweet sounds and are important to shoegaze, they're not my go-to band. I prefer Chapterhouse and Slowdive.

IntoTheSun
12/05/09, 09:19 PM
WHAT!? NO!!! Your taste isn't in sync with mine. You must be stoned!

I like them, but while they have some sweet sounds and are important to shoegaze, they're not my go-to band. I prefer Chapterhouse and Slowdive.

FUCK THE WHAT?!! I dun like Taylor Swift, I likez Daisy!!! i haz four fingers.

I can listen to them, and I like a couple of songs, but it's mostly meh. TPOBPAH (lol fail) are kind of like that too, but I only got into them because I heard them play live at NYC this summer.

xJesusFreakx
12/05/09, 09:26 PM
FUCK THE WHAT?!! I dun like Taylor Swift, I likez Daisy!!! i haz four fingers.

I can listen to them, and I like a couple of songs, but it's mostly meh. TPOBPAH (lol fail) are kind of like that too, but I only got into them because I heard them play live at NYC this summer.

LULZyousuck.

TPOBPAH aren't bad, but I'm not all that crazy about them. Wouldn't mind seeing them live, though. Could be fun.

briewer
12/06/09, 12:00 AM
The merits of music souces play an integral part of where this conversation was heading. Regardless, this has nothing to do with pride on my end, in all honesty.
Yeah, I'm stressed, I've been studying more than I have been sleeping lately, and I just took offense to you saying that I was as much of a P4k d-sucker as I was accusing the other guy of being. If you had just said "you're being an asshole, stop it", I probably wouldn't have said anything. Not that you were wrong or anything, you just caught me at the wrong time.

I don't like most of what Animal Collective has done. I don't think they're experimental (which, judging from critics and pundits write-ups, seems to be their biggest selling point). By my estimation, they're released some solid albums. Broken Social Scene, to my ears, is not unlike most indie pop rock bands, but doesn't have the catchiness to make me care. I read reviews about You Forgot It in People that assert it's a wildly diverse (within the confines of the tracks in the album itself) and ambitious project, and it doesn't translate to me. It's okay, I guess.
I think I've heard all of these...

Grizzly Bear are one of those crossover indie acts that bores me to tears.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs are one of those Post-Punk/Garage Revival acts from earlier in the year that divert attention from what I think are much, much better acts that are truer to the roots and sound of artists like The Shaggs, The Seeds, The Count Five, etc.
...but this is news to me. I'm kind of surprised you don't like GB, considering how fond of Newsom you are and, in my mind at least, how similar their sounds are (at least as far as Yellow House is concerned.

I'm not high on anything Stevens has done outside Seven Swan. Wilco was rad for two albums, the rest is tedious adult-contemporary rock. A Ghost is Born was the most mediocre Bob Seger album he and the Silver Bullet Band never released thirty years prior.
I've heard that about Sufjan. I'm kind of the same with Wilco. Summerteeth and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot are fantastic, I have a special place in my heart for A Ghost Is Born even though it's definitely not as good as the previous two, and then outside of a few tracks I really don't care for anything else they've released.

Fuck Buttons do nothing for me.
Really? I thought you said you liked Tarot Sport.

I mean, I could continue, but why? Really, this is nothing more than a reflection of my own tastes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your list, beyond the fact that it doesn't really appeal to me (though you obviously have stuff I dig, like Newsom, the Stooges, Oldham, The Field, Bowie, Boards of Canada, among others).
Why not? I asked you to give your opinion, so it's not like you're being out of line by shilling out unwarranted opinions. And besides, i like hearing the negatives of the music I like just as much or more than the positives. It keeps me from being willfully ignorant on things just because I like them or want to like them.

There isn't a "way" people are supposed to talk, but I do notice people in my age range try to give their adored albums a seemingly embellished sense of depth. The greatest example is Garden State (a movie built on a sentimental sensibility I adore, despite how annoying it is). Portman's now-infamous line about New Slang being life-changing. Instead of talking about the music, and the aspects of the music that they find good, they ascribe ethereal properties to the album that transcend the actual content and give it a level of affected-depth. "New Slang is good because [components of the song] and it makes me feel [emotion]" is not common, but what is, at least from my observations is "New Slang is life-altering." It gives the album and the listeners taste a weight and depth because it's not "good" because of "reasons," it's "life-altering."
Okay, I get what you're saying now. I think a lot of that, though, has to do with people's inability to properly explain musical qualities or how those qualities effect them emotionally.

briewer
12/06/09, 12:02 AM
Tim, TPOBPAH kind of suck. Lotus Plaza is way better, in my opinion.

DaGaR
12/06/09, 05:23 AM
1. The Antlers – Hospice
2. Brand New - Daisy
3. fun. – Aim & Ignite
4. Kevin Devine – Brother’s Blood
5. P.O.S. – Never Better
6. jj – jj n° 2
7. Holopaw – Oh, Glory. Oh, Wilderness.
8. The Rural Alberta Advantage - Hometowns
9. Animal Collective – Merriweather Post Pavilion
10. The Mountain Goats – The Life of the World to Come
11. Discovery – LP
12. Bat for Lashes – Two Suns
13. Flight of the Conchords – I Told You I Was Freaky
14. Fever Ray – s/t
15. The Dodos – Time to Die
16. Why? – Eskimo Snow
17. Dan Deacon – Bromst
18. Dirty Projectors – Bitte Orca
19. Jim Gaffigan – King Baby
20. Cymbals Eat Guitars – Why There Are Mountains
21. The Joy Formidable – A Balloon Called Moaning
22. Phoenix – Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
23. Manchester Orchestra – Mean Everything to Nothing
24. mewithoutYou – It’s all Crazy! It’s all False! It’s all a Dream! It’s Alright!
25. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – It’s Blitz

distortthecode
12/06/09, 05:43 AM
1. Brand New – Daisy
2. Bayonets – Wishes & Wishes
3. Sonic Boom Six – City of Thieves
4. Say Anything – Say Anything
5. Kevin Devine – Brother’s Blood
6. Tiger Please – They Don’t Change Under Moonlight
7. Patrick Wolf – The Bachelor
8. Twin Atlantic - Vivarium
9. Alexisonfire – Old Crows/Young Cardinals
10. The Academy Is... – Lost in Pacific Time EP
11. Tubelord – Our First American Friends
12. Manchester Orchestra – Mean Everything to Nothing
13. The Skints – Live. Breathe. Build. Believe.

CalRahhh
12/06/09, 05:47 AM
The new Converge, Alexisonfire, and The Chariot are all in my top 5. Have yet to decide on the rest and order them.

OuttaMyFace
12/06/09, 05:59 AM
Anti-Flag-The People or the Gun

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 06:10 AM
Tim, TPOBPAH kind of suck. Lotus Plaza is way better, in my opinion.

I wouldn't go that far, but they're definitely not anything special.

12. Bat for Lashes – Two Suns

I keep forgetting to check this out. I watched some video of theirs (hers?) that was featured on MySpace months ago and liked it, but never got any further than that.

Deadbolt23
12/06/09, 06:18 AM
I keep forgetting to check this out. I watched some video of theirs (hers?) that was featured on MySpace months ago and liked it, but never got any further than that.

Make sure you get it. It's great.

thehereaway
12/06/09, 06:42 AM
1. Portugal. The Man (http://www.myspace.com/portugaltheman) - The Satanic Satanist
2. Sunset Rubdown (http://www.myspace.com/absolutelysunset) - Dragonslayer
3. RX Bandits (http://www.myspace.com/rxbandits) - Mandala
4. Grammatics (http://www.myspace.com/grammatics) - Grammatics
5. The Dear Hunter (http://www.myspace.com/thedearhunter) - Act III: Life & Death
6. Castledoor (http://www.myspace.com/castledoormusic) - Shouting At Mountains
7. So Many Dynamos (http://www.myspace.com/somanydynamos) - The Loud Wars
8. Pomegranates (http://www.myspace.com/pomegranatesart) - Everyone, Come Outside!
9. Local Natives (http://www.myspace.com/localnatives) - Gorilla Manor
10. Bomb the Music Industry! (http://www.myspace.com/bombthemusicindustry) - Scrambles
11. Cymbals Eat Guitars (http://www.myspace.com/cymbalseatguitars) - Why There Are Mountains

Order still needs some work (6-11 in particular), but these albums will all be there.

oddwithoutend
12/06/09, 07:38 AM
Why There are Mountains > The Satanic Satanist

drudo182
12/06/09, 07:52 AM
I still need to get The Satanic Satanist.

fake empire
12/06/09, 08:03 AM
I say this kind of stuff about my favorite music all the time, but I never mean it in the deeper sense that you're discussing. It's just a really fun way to say that I like an album. Like you said, it's hyperbole, and I think the hyperbole is strong enough to be recognized as such. It'd be one thing to say that an album's the best or one of the best of the year, but when descriptions like "amazing," "brilliant," "greatest of all time," and "life-changing" are thrown out, I think it basically just communicates the message, "I enjoy this a lot."



I like what I've heard of them, but although I'm really new to the shoegaze genre, they still don't strike me as anything too special. I've gone back to listen to them a few times, though, so that's gotta be worth something, right?

Speaking of this genre, have you heard The Fauns' self-titled debut? I got it recently after hearing about them in the shoegaze thread and love it so far.

XhVkiOar0Ew
Haven't heard it, I'll check it out. Pains of Being Pure at Heart is nothing amazing, but it's fun catchy pop music that I can't help but enjoy a lot. Reminds me a bit of My Bloody Valentine's early stuff too.

thehereaway
12/06/09, 08:03 AM
Why There are Mountains > The Satanic Satanist

Both albums are amazing, but Portugal. The Man are my favourite band so I pretty much fall in love with their releases.

oddwithoutend
12/06/09, 08:04 AM
Both albums are amazing, but Portugal. The Man are my favourite band so I pretty much fall in love with their releases.
I found their latest to be a rather disappointing follow-up to Censored Colors.

thehereaway
12/06/09, 08:13 AM
I found their latest to be a rather disappointing follow-up to Censored Colors.

Yeah, I agree, it's perhaps not as strong as their previous work (Waiters & Censored Colors in particular). However, I think it's still a really solid release and, like all Portugal. The Man albums, it offers a different twist on their unique sound, so I still love it regardless.

Sunset Rubdown's Dragonslayer has also been a really enjoyable release this year, it's hard for me to pick a favourite of the two.

Klatzke
12/06/09, 08:34 AM
1. Portugal. The Man (http://www.myspace.com/portugaltheman) - The Satanic Satanist
2. Sunset Rubdown (http://www.myspace.com/absolutelysunset) - Dragonslayer
3. RX Bandits (http://www.myspace.com/rxbandits) - Mandala
4. Grammatics (http://www.myspace.com/grammatics) - Grammatics
5. The Dear Hunter (http://www.myspace.com/thedearhunter) - Act III: Life & Death
6. Castledoor (http://www.myspace.com/castledoormusic) - Shouting At Mountains
7. So Many Dynamos (http://www.myspace.com/somanydynamos) - The Loud Wars
8. Pomegranates (http://www.myspace.com/pomegranatesart) - Everyone, Come Outside!
9. Local Natives (http://www.myspace.com/localnatives) - Gorilla Manor
10. Bomb the Music Industry! (http://www.myspace.com/bombthemusicindustry) - Scrambles
11. Cymbals Eat Guitars (http://www.myspace.com/cymbalseatguitars) - Why There Are Mountains

Order still needs some work (6-11 in particular), but these albums will all be there.
hell yes castledoor.

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 10:04 AM
Make sure you get it. It's great.

I plan on it. "Daniel" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ZHah-c0hQ) is the song I heard on MySpace and enjoyed, so if the rest of the album is comparable in quality, I should be happy with it.

Haven't heard it, I'll check it out. Pains of Being Pure at Heart is nothing amazing, but it's fun catchy pop music that I can't help but enjoy a lot. Reminds me a bit of My Bloody Valentine's early stuff too.

Ha, that's why I like Kelly Clarkson's latest album. ;-) Yeah, check it out. Maybe you'll like it.

pennie
12/06/09, 10:07 AM
I see the jokers are still here with Animal Collective and Dirty Projectors in their lists!

IWasaCamera
12/06/09, 10:10 AM
Most decent albums > Why There Are Mountains

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 10:10 AM
Some random thoughts: I both love and hate having such a broad range of music I like, lol. I dig some of the more "obscure" (or whatever the appropriate term is) bands that show up on sites like Pitchfork, and I also unabashedly love pop music, and I'm still rather intertwined in the scene (both old scene bands like Thrice and some metalcore groups like Hands), and I enjoy a lot of Christian music, etc. There's so much music out there, and I enjoy a lot of it. I'll be finding new music faster than I can digest until the day I die.

Deadbolt23
12/06/09, 10:19 AM
I plan on it. "Daniel" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ZHah-c0hQ) is the song I heard on MySpace and enjoyed, so if the rest of the album is comparable in quality, I should be happy with it.
.
I think Daniel is one of my least favourite tracks on the album. I still really like it though. It's got a good chorus.

Pat k
12/06/09, 10:21 AM
I see the jokers are still here with Animal Collective and Dirty Projectors in their lists!

You are the true joker, sir!

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 10:22 AM
I think Daniel is one of my least favourite tracks on the album. I still really like it though. It's got a good chorus.

Ha, that can be a good or bad sign. Hopefully I like the rest of the album more.

speed
12/06/09, 10:41 AM
none of these lists have "value." no one in here is a music critic. its just people discussing what albums they liked and getting recs from others, but I guess you're too busy being "edgy" to notice that...

Edgy ... no
Maybe better informed? .... well, yes.

Title of thread implies a list of albums that are better than others released in a given time period. Maybe it should be called "my favorite albums of 2009" .

But you are too busy being "defensive" to notice that. Relax.

briewer
12/06/09, 10:50 AM
I see the jokers are still here with Animal Collective and Dirty Projectors in their lists!
Because it couldn't possibly be someone's genuine opinion that either of those bands are good! Right on, dude!

pennie
12/06/09, 10:50 AM
Because it couldn't possibly be someone's genuine opinion that either of those bands are good! Right on, dude!

haha i was just joking around.don't get upset

briewer
12/06/09, 10:51 AM
haha i was just joking around.don't get upset
I'm not, it's just a pretty damn pretentious thing to say.

pennie
12/06/09, 10:52 AM
I'm not, it's just a pretty damn pretentious thing to say.

like i said,i was joking...wanna hug this out?

briewer
12/06/09, 10:54 AM
like i said,i was joking...wanna hug this out?
Meh, 99% of the people who would say that on this site are completely serious.
:hug:

pennie
12/06/09, 10:56 AM
Meh, 99% of the people who would say that on this site are completely serious.
:hug:

i know man,im not at all though.
:hug: feel the love

ThisIsNotDan
12/06/09, 10:56 AM
Title of thread implies a list of albums that are better than others released in a given time period. Maybe it should be called "my favorite albums of 2009" .

But you are too busy being "defensive" to notice that. Relax.

I think saying Albums of the Year implies that they are the users personal albums of the year. I doubt the OP is trying to call everyone out on his list being better than anyone elses. you're reading too far into it

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 11:00 AM
I'm not, it's just a pretty damn pretentious thing to say.

I hate pretentiousness. Don't you? youknowiloveyou

oddwithoutend
12/06/09, 11:17 AM
Most decent albums > Why There Are Mountains
It is by no means great.
Some random thoughts: I both love and hate having such a broad range of music I like, lol. I dig some of the more "obscure" (or whatever the appropriate term is) bands that show up on sites like Pitchfork, and I also unabashedly love pop music, and I'm still rather intertwined in the scene (both old scene bands like Thrice and some metalcore groups like Hands), and I enjoy a lot of Christian music, etc. There's so much music out there, and I enjoy a lot of it. I'll be finding new music faster than I can digest until the day I die.
Yeah, you really do enjoy a wide range of music in terms of accessibility. Sometimes I hate having obscure taste. Last night I had to tell this pretty cool girl that was into mostly scene music (Dashboard Confessional, Rise Against, My Chemical Romance, etc.) that my favourite band is The Microphones. Like, there is no way in hell she's going to like them, but she's all like "Oh I like different". So what can I do, you know? haha

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 11:22 AM
Yeah, you really do enjoy a wide range of music in terms of accessibility.

That's just how I roll. Hopefully I develop each of those areas better so that I can effortlessly start a music conversation with anyone. That'd be a rad ability.

Sometimes I hate having obscure taste. Last night I had to tell this pretty cool girl that was into mostly scene music (Dashboard Confessional, Rise Against, My Chemical Romance, etc.) that my favourite band is The Microphones. Like, there is no way in hell she's going to like them, but she's all like "Oh I like different". So what can I do, you know? haha

Ha, it can be hard dealing with someone who doesn't know as much about music as you without coming across as an elitist. I tried explaining to one of my best friends that Anchor & Braille and Anathallo are scene bands, and I think he's still offended by that, even though I also called my favorite band, Thrice, a scene band.

oddwithoutend
12/06/09, 11:34 AM
Ha, it can be hard dealing with someone who doesn't know as much about music as you without coming across as an elitist. I tried explaining to one of my best friends that Anchor & Braille and Anathallo are scene bands, and I think he's still offended by that, even though I also called my favorite band, Thrice, a scene band.
Yeah, everyone has a different version of "scene" too, and some are not familiar with the term at all. But this girl's all like "I love good lyrics, complexity, uniqueness, etc" so I couldn't say no. haha

xJesusFreakx
12/06/09, 11:38 AM
Yeah, everyone has a different version of "scene" too, and some are not familiar with the term at all. But this girl's all like "I love good lyrics, complexity, uniqueness, etc" so I couldn't say no. haha

Maybe she does, but only to a certain extent, or she just hasn't been exposed to other music enough, or a combination of the two? Ha, I'd totally have a conversation with her to try and help her figure out what she likes (assuming her tastes fall into easy categorization, which certainly may not be the case), as well as perhaps give some recommendations.

oddwithoutend
12/06/09, 11:43 AM
Maybe she does, but only to a certain extent, or she just hasn't been exposed to other music enough, or a combination of the two?
I'd probably lean toward the former.
Ha, I'd totally have a conversation with her to try and help her figure out what she likes (assuming her tastes fall into easy categorization, which certainly may not be the case), as well as perhaps give some recommendations.
Yeah, of course I could give her recommendations, but The Microphones would not be among those. ha This forum is my outlet for telling people to check them out.

musikjunky311
12/20/09, 02:09 AM
John Dillinger's Left Hand- Western States
Crafty Young Criminals- Momentary Silence
The Myriad- Father Hen
Japsum Kurtner- Martyr In The Attic
Matryoshka Doll- She Was Soft Spoken
Mohair- Songs For Filthy Gentlemen
Aulos- Canvas
The Daily Chronicle- Grow Sapling, Grow
Cahokia- Tall Grass
St. Vincent- Actor

FOBfanatic54
12/20/09, 06:38 AM
1. Daisy - Brand New
2. Say Anything - Say Anything
3. Brand New Eyes - Paramore
4. Not Without A Fight - New Found Glory
5. Nothing Personal - All Time Low
6. Beggars - Thrice
7. Lost In Pacific Time (EP) - The Academy Is...
8. New Again - Taking Back Sunday
9. 21st Century Breakdown - Green Day
10. Crash Love - AFI

BigG1392
12/20/09, 07:18 AM
These...

1) A Day To Remember - Homesick
2) Green Day - 21st Century Breakdown
3) All Time Low - Nothing Personal
4) Set Your Goals - This Will Be The Death Of Us
5) Paramore - Brand New Eyes
6) Cobra Starship - Hot Mess
7) 30 Seconds To Mars - This Is War
8) Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster
9) Boys Like Girls - Love Drunk
10) AFI - Crash Love

...were my favorite.

GhostFight
12/20/09, 08:08 AM
everyone here should post in this thread http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=59197581#post59197 581

XErikxthexRedX
12/20/09, 08:14 AM
1.) Thrice - Beggars
2.) Caspian - Tertia
3.) Moving Mountains - Foreward
4. )Sleeping at Last- Storyboards
5.) Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing
6. )The Dear Hunter - Act III
7. )Anchor & Braille - Felt
8. )consider the thief - signs and wonders
9. )mewithoutYou - It's all crazy! its all false! its alright!
10.) This Town Needs Guns - Animals

Good Listens (Runners up)
As Tall As Lions
Kiss Kiss
Closure in Moscow
Say Anything
Emery

RiCCioLi
12/20/09, 12:54 PM
These...

1) A Day To Remember - Homesick
2) Green Day - 21st Century Breakdown
3) All Time Low - Nothing Personal
4) Set Your Goals - This Will Be The Death Of Us
5) Paramore - Brand New Eyes
6) Cobra Starship - Hot Mess
7) 30 Seconds To Mars - This Is War
8) Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster
9) Boys Like Girls - Love Drunk
10) AFI - Crash Love

...were my favorite.

lol

Klatzke
12/20/09, 12:54 PM
I think Mumford and Sons is my #1 this year, battled by Mew and mum's new album.

xJesusFreakx
12/20/09, 01:01 PM
lol

I know right? I can't be believe people actually like music I don't like! That's just hilarious.

(Actually, I liked the new Paramore.)