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lfdfforever
12/04/09, 11:52 PM
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jeremypeele
12/05/09, 06:06 AM
Yeah.......

.invisible ink.
12/05/09, 06:36 AM
amen.

thanks for posting it, although i'm sure there will be tons of snide, sarcastic, belittling posts here from so-called enlightened/intelligent people who are really just sheeple who don't get off their asses to try and make a difference.

GeeBee
12/05/09, 07:30 AM
Anytime I hear the suggestion to "see things how they really are", it sounds like code for "shut off your reasoning skills and just...trust me"

SpacePunk
12/05/09, 07:34 AM
thanks for posting it, although i'm sure there will be tons of snide, sarcastic, belittling posts here from so-called enlightened/intelligent people who are really just sheeple who don't get off their asses to try and make a difference.

True, but I would like this video better if they didn't spend the first minute showing a fucking TV show.


And I don't think people who believe this stuff should be trying to force it on the "sheeple". Only 15% of the population are resistant to mind-control.

unionx
12/05/09, 08:25 AM
Ok OP, what your point? Millions of people recognize these problems and the ideas in the video, but no one does anything to fight it. There is no use talking about this if you don't try to fix it.

.invisible ink.
12/05/09, 08:29 AM
Anytime I hear the suggestion to "see things how they really are", it sounds like code for "shut off your reasoning skills and just...trust me"

really? I don't see it that way. I didn't witness anyone trying to push any specific political agenda in this video. The video seems to ask people to open their eyes and to stop being a pawn for the government by being apathetic and complacent to the world around them. It's empowering, what's the harm in that?

True, but I would like this video better if they didn't spend the first minute showing a fucking TV show.


And I don't think people who believe this stuff should be trying to force it on the "sheeple". Only 15% of the population are resistant to mind-control.

I agree about the tv show part but the point wasn't that it was a tv show obviously, it was the words being expressed within the content.

Is it really being forceful to ask people to think for themselves and take a deeper look at the meaning of their lives and what's going on around them? It's a video to help people realize that there's more to life than what they see on the surface, how is that forcing anything? If we all stopped being so goddamn blind about things and feeling like we can't make a difference we could actually make a difference! Being docile and just letting the corruption continue without giving it another thought is giving approval to the powerful organizations' agenda.

Where did you get that statistic by the way and what point are you trying to prove by stating it? I'm not sure I understand where you're going with that.

Ok OP, what your point? Millions of people recognize these problems and the ideas in the video, but no one does anything to fight it. There is no use talking about this if you don't try to fix it.

I disagree. I think more and more people are becoming aware of the problems and there is nothing wrong with helping others to see what's going on as well. No one does anything to fight it? Really? What about the thousands of people who protested outside the G20 summit, for instance? What about those of us who are working to change the system? Every little action counts and if this is how the OP wants to make a small contribution, who's to blame him? It's better to do something than nothing.

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 08:41 AM
amen.

thanks for posting it, although i'm sure there will be tons of snide, sarcastic, belittling posts here from so-called enlightened/intelligent people who are really just sheeple who don't get off their asses to try and make a difference.
You are such a fucking idiot. People who post here regularly question social norms and government institutions, blah, blah, we just do through intelligent venues and don't waste our time with this nonsense.

.invisible ink.
12/05/09, 08:47 AM
You are such a fucking idiot. People who post here regularly question social norms and government institutions, blah, blah, we just do through intelligent venues and don't waste our time with this nonsense.

name calling, that's really productive and mature. Who was saying anything against questioning social norms or government institutions? The real question is, what the hell are you doing to change anything? You can debate religion and politics all day long but if you're sitting on your ass acting like you know more than everyone else you're not bringing anything positive or worthwhile to the table.

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 08:54 AM
name calling, that's really productive and mature. Who was saying anything against questioning social norms or government institutions? The real question is, what the hell are you doing to change anything? You can debate religion and politics all day long but if you're sitting on your ass acting like you know more than everyone else you're not bringing anything positive or worthwhile to the table.
See, this is what happens when you lead with assumptions because it immediately shows that you don't know what you are talking about. I give back to my community all the time. I've sit at numerous vigils at the very bottom of the 77 steps to back door to the NY State House shouting to the top for equality, a budget that doesn't destroy the education system in this state. I've been to Common Council Chambers and asked them whether we should impose term limits on citywide offices. I've been to County Legislature meetings asking the same. For three months over the summer, I went door to door in this city working to get individuals elected to the right positions where the proper reforms can be initiated, hopefully. And this summer, I will do the same thing--again. So, get off your high horse and take asinine remarks with you.

sleepyseanzzz
12/05/09, 09:07 AM
See, this is what happens when you lead with assumptions because it immediately shows that you don't know what you are talking about. I give back to my community all the time. I've sit at numerous vigils at the very bottom of the 77 steps to back door to the NY State House shouting to the top for equality, a budget that doesn't destroy the education system in this state. I've been to Common Council Chambers and asked them whether we should impose term limits on citywide offices. I've been to County Legislature meetings asking the same. For three months over the summer, I went door to door in this city working to get individuals elected to the right positions where the proper reforms can be initiated, hopefully. And this summer, I will do the same thing--again. So, get off your high horse and take asinine remarks with you.

pretty sure you called her a fucking idiot for speaking his opinion dickhead. she's a girl and you called her a fucking idiot. you're such a good person

.invisible ink.
12/05/09, 09:07 AM
See, this is what happens when you lead with assumptions because it immediately shows that you don't know what you are talking about. I give back to my community all the time. I've sit at numerous vigils at the very bottom of the 77 steps to back door to the NY State House shouting to the top for equality, a budget that doesn't destroy the education system in this state. I've been to Common Council Chambers and asked them whether we should impose term limits on citywide offices. I've been to County Legislature meetings asking the same. For three months over the summer, I went door to door in this city working to get individuals elected to the right positions where the proper reforms can be initiated, hopefully. And this summer, I will do the same thing--again. So, get off your high horse and take asinine remarks with you.

Perhaps you don't recall but you led your comment with an insult, what sort of reaction were you anticipating you would get from that? I'm glad you're doing positive work in your real life, that's awesome and commendable but on this messageboard you have a really shitty attitude and come off like you know more than everyone else. I'd love to know how I'm the one on a "high horse" (pot? kettle?) and respectfully disagree that my comments are "asinine" but you're entitled to your opinion, so that's not really something I'm interested in debating with you.

I'm not going to play your derailing of the thread game in here any longer because it's not productive and it takes away from what the OP was posting.

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 09:21 AM
Perhaps you don't recall but you led your comment with an insult, what sort of reaction were you anticipating you would get from that? I'm glad you're doing positive work in your real life, that's awesome and commendable but on this messageboard you have a really shitty attitude and come off like you know more than everyone else. I'd love to know how I'm the one on a "high horse" (pot? kettle?) and respectfully disagree that my comments are "asinine" but you're entitled to your opinion, so that's not really something I'm interested in debating with you.

I'm not going to play your derailing of the thread game in here any longer because it's not productive and it takes away from what the OP was posting.
Please stop trying to act like you didn't make a hasty generalization where you tried to paint a large swath of the users on this forum as unintelligent because they would dismiss this schlock--which is what it is. A lot of users would dismiss because....
pretty sure you called him a fucking idiot for speaking his opinion dickhead.
It's beyond a matter of opinion, watching this video is a waste of time. It's the same recycled bullshit tales of "government ineptitude," "the government's holding me down," and the other kinds of nonsense that fuel movements like these: http://www.teapartyexpress.org/

These videos are neither informative or refreshing. They fall in the same vein as Loose Change and Zeitgeist--pseudo-intellectual nonsense that is fed by reading Wikipedia for long periods of time.

J.C.
12/05/09, 09:34 AM
needed moar clips from A Bug's Life

sleepyseanzzz
12/05/09, 09:35 AM
Please stop trying to act like you didn't make a hasty generalization where you tried to paint a large swath of the users on this forum as unintelligent because they would dismiss this schlock--which is what it is. A lot of users would dismiss because....

It's beyond a matter of opinion, watching this video is a waste of time. It's the same recycled bullshit tales of "government ineptitude," "the government's holding me down," and the other kinds of nonsense that fuel movements like these: http://www.teapartyexpress.org/

These videos are neither informative or refreshing. They fall in the same vein as Loose Change and Zeitgeist--pseudo-intellectual nonsense that is fed by reading Wikipedia for long periods of time.

i didnt watch the video. i just came in here because in every forum you post in you come off as a dickhead who thinks he's so much better than everybody else. stop being such an asshole all the time. do you really hate your life that much that you feel the need to come into a forum on the internet and verbally talk down to a girl? get a life

justinmfi
12/05/09, 10:19 AM
This video is right, haters are wrong and we will all be dead soon...FTW

wendjiqn
12/05/09, 10:20 AM
ok.

drawndead
12/05/09, 10:30 AM
i didnt watch the video. i just came in here because in every forum you post in you come off as a dickhead who thinks he's so much better than everybody else. stop being such an asshole all the time. do you really hate your life that much that you feel the need to come into a forum on the internet and verbally talk down to a girl? get a life

win.

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 10:41 AM
i didnt watch the video. i just came in here because in every forum you post in you come off as a dickhead who thinks he's so much better than everybody else. stop being such an asshole all the time. do you really hate your life that much that you feel the need to come into a forum on the internet and verbally talk down to a girl? get a life
Wahhhh, dude. I'm sorry I take issue with her (and it could have been a male who said it and my reaction would have been identical, not sure why you are making her gender part of the issue, but that is kind of like you to place emphasis on things that aren't relevant) stupid comments about how we're all sheeple because we don't buy into some bullshit, rehashed video that we've all seen 165871 times before in a different format. I'm sorry I take issue with people utilizing some hasty generalization to justify some bullshit argument.

sleepyseanzzz
12/05/09, 11:09 AM
Wahhhh, dude. I'm sorry I take issue with her (and it could have been a male who said it and my reaction would have been identical, not sure why you are making her gender part of the issue, but that is kind of like you to place emphasis on things that aren't relevant) stupid comments about how we're all sheeple because we don't buy into some bullshit, rehashed video that we've all seen 165871 times before in a different format. I'm sorry I take issue with people utilizing some hasty generalization to justify some bullshit argument.

i dont give a shit about other people saying how all the genders are equal and all that but just disrespecting a girl like that and calling her a fucking idiot for what she believes is wrong. you're the fucking idiot here.

perceptrons
12/05/09, 11:27 AM
i dont give a shit about other people saying how all the genders are equal and all that but just disrespecting a girl like that and calling her a fucking idiot for what she believes is wrong. you're the fucking idiot here.
I still don't see how her gender factors in here. I don't believe she asked for, or needs your white knight bullshit here, so mind your own business.

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 11:36 AM
i dont give a shit about other people saying how all the genders are equal and all that but just disrespecting a girl like that and calling her a fucking idiot for what she believes is wrong. you're the fucking idiot here.
You're the one placing importance on her gender.

sleepyseanzzz
12/05/09, 11:40 AM
You're the one placing importance on her gender.

its simple manners.

sleepyseanzzz
12/05/09, 11:41 AM
I still don't see how her gender factors in here. I don't believe she asked for, or needs your white knight bullshit here, so mind your own business.

why dont you do the same? i just dont like the punk who goes into every forum bashing people for no reason

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 11:46 AM
its simple manners.
Didn't you call me "a fucking idiot" as well? Reciprocation is just as bad--"two wrongs don't make a right." Now go away.

Praetor
12/05/09, 11:50 AM
its simple manners.
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.

11:11
12/05/09, 11:51 AM
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.
Holy shit to his posts in that thread.

perceptrons
12/05/09, 11:54 AM
Didn't you call me "a fucking idiot" as well? Reciprocation is just as bad--"two wrongs don't make a right." Now go away.
You aren't a girl, it doesn't count.

kbi the crowing
12/05/09, 11:59 AM
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.

:appl:

IntoTheSun
12/05/09, 12:03 PM
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.

Oh my.

EvilZeppelin
12/05/09, 12:15 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress. com/2007/11/funny-pictures-interesting-cat.jpg

lfdfforever
12/05/09, 12:51 PM
It all really comes down to love.

oldwirehands
12/05/09, 01:02 PM
Here's a real video of revolution.

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MyNameIsRoss
12/05/09, 01:39 PM
carlin is spot on in that video. that's it.

trindaddy
12/05/09, 02:21 PM
Oh great, another conspiracy theory. People are so dumb.

saysmydoctor
12/05/09, 02:48 PM
Oh great, another conspiracy theory. People are so dumb.
Thought-terminating cliche, also confuses this video as being insightful and thoughtful when it's all been said before.

macabre
12/05/09, 02:58 PM
It's almost like these conspiracy theorists take a Marxist analysis and expand it beyond the capitalist class to shadowy elites.

oldwirehands
12/05/09, 03:03 PM
I finally tried to watch the video. Same story as usual. These conspiracy theorists, or whatever they want to be called, want to fight the power or whatever, but nothing gets done. They feel the need to just talk and make videos like this.

Like I said, if you want to see hear some legitimate revolutionary ideas, watch the video I posted. No, its not some flashy montage of Comedians and pseudo-science extrordinares. Its just one guy telling it like it is, through his own mouth.

trindaddy
12/05/09, 03:06 PM
Thought-terminating cliche, also confuses this video as being insightful and thoughtful when it's all been said before.
There really wasn't anything in it that hasn't been said on these forums before (oh hi there timberwolf). Before they would have thrown in that every president has been a "blueblood" but now that the president is black they can't really use that one anymore. I wish I could look into people's minds who believe in this shit and find what went wrong in their lives to make them believe in something so ignorant. The Da Vinci Code has spawned a whole slew of these people who think they're private dicks attempting to figure out world hierarchy that doesn't exist.

Hannah95
12/05/09, 03:26 PM
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.

Holy shit to what he said. X-)

Machu505
12/05/09, 03:58 PM
I think we should stop giving conspiracy theories so much credit and start calling them conspiracy hunches, perhaps.

Deadbolt23
12/06/09, 05:20 AM
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.


I'm seriously speechless.

zion the lion
12/06/09, 06:41 AM
I didnt finish that video for a few reasons, but that picture at 1:39ish really got to me, there's a similar one that affected me in the same way, but most others like that dont even make me slow down when I'm eating my chips or something.

GeeBee
12/06/09, 07:55 AM
I think we should stop giving conspiracy theories so much credit and start calling them conspiracy hunches, perhaps.

In addition, we seriously need to institute into our education system a barrage of classes that outline the difference between POSSIBILITY and PLAUSIBILITY, because far too few Americans understand it.

caveBEAR
12/06/09, 10:56 AM
i dont give a shit about other people saying how all the genders are equal and all that

So in order to show just how much you care about women, you through out gender equality? I like it.

x togepi x
12/06/09, 01:24 PM
OP is why people don't take real activists seriously when they want to deal with the terrible power structures in place.

lfdfforever
12/06/09, 01:39 PM
OP is why people don't take real activists seriously when they want to deal with the terrible power structures in place.92WrNGoOgiE

x togepi x
12/06/09, 01:49 PM
92WrNGoOgiE

all i'm saying is, sometimes you make actually intelligent points, like when you're talking about police brutality, but all that gets washed away when you start talking about inane shit like aliens.

Kozzy333
12/06/09, 04:35 PM
Nah, you know what is simple manners? Not advocating genocide (http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=57123671#post57123 671).

You have no room to talk about common decency.


http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/237i4CEA9AA2FF21CBB1/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

Edit- Not sure why it isn't embedding.