Greg Oden injured again.

[Parabola1124]

Broken left patella. Out for the rest of the season.

So the question is, do you hold out hope for next year or was this his last shot at proving that he could stay healthy?

Personally, I'll give him another year before I give up hope on him. Furthermore, I don't think you can really classify him a bust for the simple fact that when he has played he's performed well.

[greenteaallday]

I'd be shocked if he isn't done.

[HometownHero]

Such a waste. We should have taken Durant and shifted up our guard situation

[coma]

Durant + Roy = titles for years to come. YEARS.

[sinkinginthesea]

Glad he left Ohio State when he did.

[drawndead]

he isnt a bust...yet but i dont expect him back

[abcdefghijake]

Durant + Roy = titles for years to come. YEARS.

You must be confused.

[mjr20]

damn he was playing very well recently, that sucks

[1moreandimfree]

I'd be shocked if he isn't done.

You're fucking retarded.

[HometownHero]

Durant + Roy = titles for years to come. YEARS.
:nod:

[werealldudes19]

he seems like such a good person
it sucks his luck is so shitty

[zac_montucky]

he seems like such a good person
it sucks his luck is so shitty


It's not his luck. It's the fact that he's 90

/tired "Greg Oden looks old" joke

[greenteaallday]

You're fucking retarded.

Bitter over there in Oregon? It's alright, most NBA players do great after having 3 big injuries in 3 seasons.

That being said, I like him and hope he ends up ok, just can't see it.

[yrfacemyfist]

You must be confused.

confused about what? winning combinations? cus im pretty sure durant and roy and Aldridge would destroy

I remember the draft and how the only reason that oden was first was because 'you cant learn to be 7 foot'

looks like you cant learn to have glass bones either.

an unfortunate draft bust 4shoree

[gonz]

This is just silly. None of his injuries have been related to each other. He'll be back when he heals from this injury.

[guitarman2189]

This is just silly. None of his injuries have been related to each other. He'll be back when he heals from this injury.

How is receiving knee surgery a year ago not related to this injury?

The man is a living Benjamin Button so he will only get younger and better I suppose.

[Bigalan2004]

i just hope this knee injury isn't like shaun livingston's injury. he is still rehabbing.

[abcdefghijake]

confused about what? winning combinations? cus im pretty sure durant and roy and Aldridge would destroy

I remember the draft and how the only reason that oden was first was because 'you cant learn to be 7 foot'

looks like you cant learn to have glass bones either.

an unfortunate draft bust 4shoree

I'm pretty sure that there is a team with Kobe, Artest, and Gasol.
Bad luck doesn't make you a bust.

[iihungrieii]

confused about what? winning combinations? cus im pretty sure durant and roy and Aldridge would destroy

I remember the draft and how the only reason that oden was first was because 'you cant learn to be 7 foot'

looks like you cant learn to have glass bones either.

an unfortunate draft bust 4shoree

they wouldnt beat the lakers

[gonz]

How is receiving knee surgery a year ago not related to this injury?

The man is a living Benjamin Button so he will only get younger and better I suppose.
Microfracture surgery repairs/strengthens cartilage. Oden fractured a bone.

[Parabola1124]

Microfracture surgery repairs/strengthens cartilage. Oden fractured a bone.
He injured his left knee last year too. The micro-fracture surgery was '07.

[gonz]

He injured his left knee last year too. The micro-fracture surgery was '07.
Ahhh yeah I forgot about the bone chip. Also doctors do not think this injury is related to the bone chip from last year.

And for a final edit. The fact that he didn't injure his patella tendon is HUGE. That's an awful injury.

[Parabola1124]

Yeah, I'm sure he'll be back next season. But this much wear and tear on a big mans legs/knees this early is not a good sign for a long career.

[dsmil]

Such a waste. We should have taken Durant and shifted up our guard situation


I don't think it was the wrong pick, I think it was a matter of getting unlucky...At the time of the draft, the far majority of people felt like Oden was the guy to take with the first pick. They saw him possibly being a "franchise-changing" big man like Shaq or Duncan while they saw Durant being a great scorer like T-Mac, who may not lead his team to championships.

It's a lot easier to say "we should have taken x" in hindsight, but it's totally different at the time of the draft. What about those unhappy Magic fans when they took Dwight Howard over Emeka Okefor. They're pretty happy now!

[ArTkY_]

Being a fan of a center who is often injured.... I feel horrible for the guy.

[Jason Tate]

Durant + Roy = titles for years to come. YEARS.
Durant would be sitting in the corner shooting threes ala Outlaw/Webster.

Both players need the ball in their hands to be effective. Pretending it would have worked out for "years" is the biggest joke of arm-chair quarterbacking ever.

[Jason Tate]

http://my.thescore.com/courtsurfing/archive/2009/12/07/get-well-soon-g-o.aspx

[Jason Tate]

How is receiving knee surgery a year ago not related to this injury?

The man is a living Benjamin Button so he will only get younger and better I suppose.
They were not related.

[yrfacemyfist]

I'm pretty sure that there is a team with Kobe, Artest, and Gasol.
Bad luck doesn't make you a bust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_bust#Draft_bust

'A draft bust occurs when a highly touted draftee does not meet the high expectations.'

anything can make you a draft bust as long as you dont meet the expectations going in

[abcdefghijake]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_bust#Draft_bust

'A draft bust occurs when a highly touted draftee does not meet the high expectations.'

anything can make you a draft bust as long as you dont meet the expectations going in

He's been meeting his expectations while he has been playing. So it's pretty dumb for you to call him a bust.

If you think Portland would win a championship by drafting someone else you probably should give up on following basketball.

[Jason Tate]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_bust#Draft_bust

'A draft bust occurs when a highly touted draftee does not meet the high expectations.'

anything can make you a draft bust as long as you dont meet the expectations going in
He has lived up to expectations this year (until injury).

[yrfacemyfist]

He's been meeting his expectations while he has been playing. So it's pretty dumb for you to call him a bust.

If you think Portland would win a championship by drafting someone else you probably should give up on following basketball.


I dont recall saying that they would win a championship, all I said was they would destroy. I was implying that they would be one of the top teams competing for a championship, esp. in the future since they have a lot of young talent.

As for the bust, I would consider my first overall pick who averages 9.4 ppg, .6 assists pg, 7.3 rebounds pg, 22.1 mins pg, 1.43 blocks pg a bust. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3225

compared to durant: 23.3ppg, 2.6 assists pg, 5.6 rebounds pg, 37 mins pg, .83 blocks pg
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3202

The blazers could have picked up Zydrunas Ilgauskas and have him produce about the same, at a lot less cost, without the injuries
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=362

just saying

[Jason Tate]

I dont recall saying that they would win a championship, all I said was they would destroy. I was implying that they would be one of the top teams competing for a championship, esp. in the future since they have a lot of young talent.

As for the bust, I would consider my first overall pick who averages 9.4 ppg, .6 assists pg, 7.3 rebounds pg, 22.1 mins pg, 1.43 blocks pg a bust. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3225

compared to durant: 23.3ppg, 2.6 assists pg, 5.6 rebounds pg, 37 mins pg, .83 blocks pg
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3202

The blazers could have picked up Zydrunas Ilgauskas and have him produce about the same, at a lot less cost, without the injuries
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=362

just saying
Look at season, not career ... this was the first healthy year for Oden. Much better numbers than Z. And had a higher PER and WEGS than Durant a few weeks ago. And watch one Blazer game -- Durant would not be 1/2 the player he is on the Blazer team. He'd be sitting in the corner shooting spot up threes.

[abcdefghijake]

I dont recall saying that they would win a championship, all I said was they would destroy. I was implying that they would be one of the top teams competing for a championship, esp. in the future since they have a lot of young talent.

As for the bust, I would consider my first overall pick who averages 9.4 ppg, .6 assists pg, 7.3 rebounds pg, 22.1 mins pg, 1.43 blocks pg a bust. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3225
He is clearly still developing. I don't think you understand his position.

compared to durant: 23.3ppg, 2.6 assists pg, 5.6 rebounds pg, 37 mins pg, .83 blocks pg
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3202
You're comparing two different types of players finding a good big man is a lot harder than finding a scorer.

The blazers could have picked up Zydrunas Ilgauskas and have him produce about the same, at a lot less cost, without the injuries
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=362
That would be dumb considering his age and how they are building a team.
just saying

I'm sure I would be able to find websites to help me out, but since I didn't care enough to click on the ones you posted...

All I'm saying is if he stays healthy he will develop into a good player, and there is no reason to think otherwise.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

That assessment of Durant on the Blazers makes no sense at all.

[yrfacemyfist]

Look at season, not career ... this was the first healthy year for Oden. Much better numbers than Z. And had a higher PER and WEGS than Durant a few weeks ago. And watch one Blazer game -- Durant would not be 1/2 the player he is on the Blazer team. He'd be sitting in the corner shooting spot up threes.

I'm sure I would be able to find websites to help me out, but since I didn't care enough to click on the ones you posted...

All I'm saying is if he stays healthy he will develop into a good player, and there is no reason to think otherwise.

That assessment of Durant on the Blazers makes no sense at all.

i think these 2 articles should help out my argument:

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/03/12/how-much-better-off-would-the-blazers-be-had-they-drafted-durant-instead-of-oden/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/119472-why-the-portland-trail-blazers-should-regret-passing-up-on-kevin-durant

As for the season he is/was averaging 2 more points, 1 more bock and 2 rebounds a game better than his career average. Still not first over-all draft pick material IMO

Comparing Oden to lets say Michael Olowokandi, the biggest draft bust center in the history of the game
Statistically about the same career averages until Oden is playing again

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3244

[abcdefghijake]

i think these 2 articles should help out my argument:

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/03/12/how-much-better-off-would-the-blazers-be-had-they-drafted-durant-instead-of-oden/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/119472-why-the-portland-trail-blazers-should-regret-passing-up-on-kevin-durant

As for the season he is/was averaging 2 more points, 1 more bock and 2 rebounds a game better than his career average. Still not first over-all draft pick material IMO

Comparing Oden to lets say Michael Olowokandi, the biggest draft bust center in the history of the game
Statistically about the same career averages until Oden is playing again

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3244

If I said I didn't click on the other links, why would you post more?

I really don't care. You clearly don't understand what the Trailblazers are doing right now.

[Jason Tate]

That assessment of Durant on the Blazers makes no sense at all.
At all.

[Jason Tate]

The Oden/Durant decision is a waste of time. The biggest misstep in recent years was Webster over CP3. We take CP3, we're probably not even in the discussion of drafting either Oden or Durant. If only KP was listened to a little earlier. So, close.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

i think these 2 articles should help out my argument:

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/03/12/how-much-better-off-would-the-blazers-be-had-they-drafted-durant-instead-of-oden/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/119472-why-the-portland-trail-blazers-should-regret-passing-up-on-kevin-durant

As for the season he is/was averaging 2 more points, 1 more bock and 2 rebounds a game better than his career average. Still not first over-all draft pick material IMO

Comparing Oden to lets say Michael Olowokandi, the biggest draft bust center in the history of the game
Statistically about the same career averages until Oden is playing again

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3244
I wasn't talking about your assessment. I meant Jason's that Durant would strictly be a 3-point shooter making no plays for himself in that offense. Durant would be a much more dynamic presence, but I get his point. You can't fault the Blazers for choosing Oden. They already had a play maker in that position with Roy, and Oden was their best option to compete right away. When healthy, he's a good presence down there. Overrated? Probably, but he was their best option in that draft. Hindsight is 20/20, you can't predict these injuries. I thought all along that Durant would be the better overall player by a bit in his career and am thrilled that the Thunder have him, but Oden was a solid choice at the time for the Blazers.

[coma]

Durant would be sitting in the corner shooting threes ala Outlaw/Webster.

Both players need the ball in their hands to be effective. Pretending it would have worked out for "years" is the biggest joke of arm-chair quarterbacking ever.

I don't fault you. That's what I'd say if I was a butthurt Blazers fan too. I'm a Warriors fan, at least you get #1 picks to fuck up. We're consistantly in the lottery and when we finally get a #1 pick we use it on Joe fucking Smith. They could have drafted a sliver of my shit and we'd have been more successful than we have been for the last 30 years.