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Caleb Cattivera
06/23/06, 10:56 AM
take it for what you will. but this is the latest 'buzz'.

The Raptors rumors have been shot down. Jermaine Oneal will most likely not be traded to the Raps for the first overall pick, he would hurt their cap flexibility. One rumor that has started up is the Blazers sending the 4th and 30th pick, along with travis outlaw or sebastian telfair to the raptors for the number one pick.

Two rumors surrounding the Bulls. Trading Tyson Chandler and the #2 pick to the lakers for Bynum and Odom. Or sending the #2 pick and chandler to the Suns for Shawn Marion. They would draft Tyrus Thomas with the pick, and that would get their cap under control to resign barbosa and diaw next summer.

The Blazers are shopping their entire roster. Seriously.

The Hawks could send the #5 pick and al harrington to the sixers for Iverson(please, no). or the fifth pick to the sonics for Collison and the number ten pick.

This is just a small rumor, but rumors are fun. But the Wolves could ship Garnett to the Raptors for Charlie V, Mike James(sign and trade), and the number one. Also, Marko Jaric and Ricky Davis could be shipped to Denver for Kenyon Martin(hmm making room for the Reign Man?)/

The Warriors may send Dunleavy, Murphy and the #9 to the Lakers for Lamar Odom and Aaron Mckie or Pietrus, Murph and the #9 for Chandler and the 16th pick. And the rumor that's been around forever, pietrus and murph for boozer.

The Sixers are in the same boat as the Blazers, basically, their entire team is on the block.

The Pacers, after shooting down the Raptors rumor, have said Jermaine is definatley not untouchable. Possibly shipping him to Chicago for Ben Gordon or Luol Deng and the Number two pick. Also, sending him to the Hawks for the #5, Marvin Williams and Josh Smith or Zaza Pachulia. Both trades work under the cap.

Few Nuggets rumors. Andre Miller to the Celtics could happen, as well as Camby to the Bulls for Chandler and the 16.

Larry Brown could become the coach of the Bobcats, apparentley with Michael Jordan buying stakes in the team, he's taken an interest in Brown. In my personal opinion, I think it would be a good idea. If he makes the Bobcats worse, then we know he needs to stop coaching.

justinevans
06/23/06, 11:12 AM
id love the sixers-hawks trade.

mcfly21
06/23/06, 11:23 AM
i hope draft night is crazy

Dirty Ernie
06/23/06, 11:51 AM
wow al harrington and the 5th and 13th picks in this draft and no iverson...that is what we call a step in the right direction

tenmmowned
06/23/06, 11:53 AM
wow that sucks when you're whole team is on the block... maybe they need new management when that happens?

Dirty Ernie
06/23/06, 11:56 AM
wow that sucks when you're whole team is on the block... maybe they need new management when that happens?

yes this season is make or break for billy king

Caleb Cattivera
06/23/06, 11:56 AM
id love the sixers-hawks trade.

being an atlanta fan. i hate the trade. i hate iverson. we would not be any better off. we still wouldnt win more than 30 games.

the only good thing about it would be getting fans in the seats. the thug ass people in atlanta would love it though. a thug ass player in a thug ass city.

livethesounds
06/23/06, 01:24 PM
i assume when you say rein man, you mean sean kemp...and to that i say "you cant be serious"

StandMyBrothers
06/23/06, 01:43 PM
The Suns better not trade Marion, he was the only one who could play Big besides Tim Thomas in the Post-Season. Don't fuck it up D'Antoni.

bigmike
06/23/06, 01:48 PM
"If he makes the Bobcats worse then he knows he should stop coaching"
hahahah.

Branevember31
06/23/06, 01:48 PM
bulls will never trade away ben gordan

Clarett'sGreyGoose
06/23/06, 01:58 PM
I'd like to see Larry Brown coach the Bobcats, because like Caleb said....if he makes a young, maturing team worse, we know it's time for him to go.

But if he takes a young team with lots of potential and turns them into a .500 team in a year or two, maybe he's still got it.

The one thing similar between the Bobcats and (most of) the Pistons: low ego. None of the guys on the Bobcats have proven ANYTHING at the NBA level. Their biggest "star" would be Okafor, and he is Mr. Humble.

bigmike
06/23/06, 02:03 PM
bulls will never trade away ben gordan
You're new here. So i'll help you out. Caleb's word on basketball is gold and never argue with Jason Tate about Duke or you'll get banned/muted.

itsjdiggity
06/23/06, 02:44 PM
The Hawks could send the #5 pick and al harrington to the sixers for Iverson(please, no). or the fifth pick to the sonics for Collison and the number ten pick.

what a shitty trade

Collison should be off limits

Ravenna
06/23/06, 05:44 PM
why all the rumors surrounding jermaine?

Chriz2z
06/23/06, 06:04 PM
You're new here. So i'll help you out. Caleb's word on basketball is gold and never argue with Jason Tate about Duke or you'll get banned/muted.
Listen to the man.

bigmike
06/23/06, 06:21 PM
Listen to the man.
"Rodney for closer"
God, ain't that the fucking truth.

zizou1790
06/23/06, 06:37 PM
intresting stuff

FondestMemory
06/23/06, 06:43 PM
why all the rumors surrounding jermaine?

chances of him being a pacer next year are very slim. and there are a good number of teams that would love a player of his caliber.

thus, the rumours.

Caleb Cattivera
06/23/06, 08:22 PM
what a shitty trade

Collison should be off limits

yeah i agree...at least that it's a shitty trade...for the hawks...

;)

Caleb Cattivera
06/23/06, 08:23 PM
i assume when you say rein man, you mean sean kemp...and to that i say "you cant be serious"

dead serious. he's lost weight, and he cant be any worse than kenyon martin.

The Rescue
06/24/06, 07:47 AM
Haha I was a huge Reign Man fan in his hay day with The Glove. Sonics 4 Lyf3! Haha. Good thing he lost weight though, because could he possibly gain anymore?

FondestMemory
06/25/06, 10:37 AM
i like how i'm hearing all this talk about what isiah can do to fix the knicks, and everytime it all comes back to sending expiring contracts to the blazers for zack randolph and/or darius miles.

if that's your solution, you're fucked.

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 10:40 AM
You're new here. So i'll help you out. Caleb's word on basketball is gold and never argue with Jason Tate about Duke or you'll get banned/muted.

i can attest to this.

Brownpants06
06/25/06, 01:47 PM
I can't wait for the draft, I want to see what Colangelo can tinker around with. I like the idea of Garnett going to Toronto, but honestly we already have bosh. We desperatly need a PG/SG instead of another forward. (Iverson?). Also, wasen't the whole reason Garnett hates the T-Wolves because the entire team sucks ass but him? Wouldn't that pretty much be the same in Toronto? (With the exception of Bosh i suppose)

FondestMemory
06/25/06, 02:30 PM
I can't wait for the draft, I want to see what Colangelo can tinker around with. I like the idea of Garnett going to Toronto, but honestly we already have bosh. We desperatly need a PG/SG instead of another forward. (Iverson?). Also, wasen't the whole reason Garnett hates the T-Wolves because the entire team sucks ass but him? Wouldn't that pretty much be the same in Toronto? (With the exception of Bosh i suppose)

ideal thing for them to do would work out a deal with portland. perhaps telfair and the number 4 for the number one.

that way they get themselves a young point guard who's upside may actually show with a change of scenery and they still get to take the italian.

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 02:50 PM
latest rumors have Seattle and Phoenix in serious talks about a potential blockbuster.

The deal is rumored to include Phoenix's Shawn Marion and the #27 pick to Seattle for Rashard Lewis and the #10 pick. Other discussed pieces may be Barbosa and Forston.

Seattle wants to move Lewis because they think he'll take off after the next season and they'll have nothing in return, while Phoenix wants to avoid the luxury tax but stay competitive. Ronnie Brewer and Rodney Carney are two guys the Suns are reportedly interested in at #10.

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 02:54 PM
Philly and New Jersey are also rumored to be considering a deal w/ each other ..

Philly would send #13 to the Nets for #22 and #23, who want a big man (Simmons, Williams, O'Bryant, Hilton Armstrong as possibilties). The Sixers don't really have anyone targeted w/ their pick and are open to moving down.

itsjdiggity
06/25/06, 02:55 PM
latest rumors have Seattle and Phoenix in serious talks about a potential blockbuster.

The deal is rumored to include Phoenix's Shawn Marion and the #27 pick to Seattle for Rashard Lewis and the #10 pick. Other discussed pieces may be Barbosa and Forston.

Seattle wants to move Lewis because they think he'll take off after the next season and they'll have nothing in return, while Phoenix wants to avoid the luxury tax but stay competitive. Ronnie Brewer and Rodney Carney are two guys the Suns are reportedly interested in at #10.

that's an awesome trade

pick up pittsnogle with that #27 and its all good from there

FondestMemory
06/25/06, 03:00 PM
latest rumors have Seattle and Phoenix in serious talks about a potential blockbuster.

The deal is rumored to include Phoenix's Shawn Marion and the #27 pick to Seattle for Rashard Lewis and the #10 pick. Other discussed pieces may be Barbosa and Forston.

Seattle wants to move Lewis because they think he'll take off after the next season and they'll have nothing in return, while Phoenix wants to avoid the luxury tax but stay competitive. Ronnie Brewer and Rodney Carney are two guys the Suns are reportedly interested in at #10.

that's a nice deal for both teams.

just weird if the suns do it. that'd be two successful seasons in a row with major offseason changes. that's just weird to me.

xbrokendownx
06/25/06, 03:02 PM
i think the s uns would be crazy to do that. why trade shawn marion? dude is a stud. rashard lewis isnt NEARLY on the same level...do they like those 2 players you said theyd draft THAT much? i think its dumb

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 03:03 PM
that's a nice deal for both teams.

just weird if the suns do it. that'd be two successful seasons in a row with major offseason changes. that's just weird to me.

yeah, they just won't have any money after they pay Diaw and Barbosa. They need young, cheap talent that will step right in and they can get that at #10.

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 03:06 PM
i think the s uns would be crazy to do that. why trade shawn marion? dude is a stud. rashard lewis isnt NEARLY on the same level...do they like those 2 players you said theyd draft THAT much? i think its dumb

it all comes down to money and keeping the best team together that's possible while avoiding the luxury tax. Lewis makes $5 million less than Marion.

xbrokendownx
06/25/06, 03:12 PM
it all comes down to money and keeping the best team together that's possible while avoiding the luxury tax. Lewis makes $5 million less than Marion.





eh i guess youre right. marion is such a huge part of that team though, even with amare back i think they wont be nearly as good without marion

Brownpants06
06/25/06, 03:13 PM
eh i guess youre right. marion is such a huge part of that team though, even with amare back i think they wont be nearly as good without marion


Well, it will be interesting to see how Nash could adapt to that change.

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 03:18 PM
eh i guess youre right. marion is such a huge part of that team though, even with amare back i think they wont be nearly as good without marion

yeah, i think phoenix is going to be on a slight decline from this point forward. They have too many people making too much money right now and now the supporting cast wants to get paid. It's really just making the best of a bad situation.

StandMyBrothers
06/25/06, 03:18 PM
The Suns aren't going to trade Marion. Guranteed 100 percent. D'antoni may not be that great of a coach but he's not semi-retarded to do this.

LeftWideOpen
06/25/06, 03:23 PM
The Suns aren't going to trade Marion. Guranteed 100 percent. D'antoni may not be that great of a coach but he's not semi-retarded to do this.

He doesnt have a choice really ..he has to stay under the cap and he has 3 guys making max (or close to max) dollars. Diaw is going to have to paid about $10 and Barbosa is in line to make about $8 million. You can't have 5 guys making that much money and expect to have any depth.

would you rather keep marion and lose diaw and barbosa? I think the combination of the other 2 is more valuable than Marion. I think this deal, or at least some deal like this, is necessary if the Suns are going to compete a few years down the road.

FondestMemory
06/25/06, 03:24 PM
The Suns aren't going to trade Marion. Guranteed 100 percent. D'antoni may not be that great of a coach but he's not semi-retarded to do this.

that's not the first rumour i've heard wiith marion's name in it though.

Drew Beringer
06/25/06, 05:43 PM
I just hope JO isn't traded.

hockey0001
06/25/06, 06:33 PM
You're new here. So i'll help you out. Caleb's word on basketball is gold and never argue with Jason Tate about Duke or you'll get banned/muted.

hahaha, its great that you threw that in

StandMyBrothers
06/25/06, 07:32 PM
I just hope JO isn't traded.
I honestly don't see it. I really don't see any BIG BIG BIG name players get traded like him and KG, etc.

somethingyellow
06/25/06, 08:17 PM
i just hope the suns keep barbosa and diaw. Though i love the matrix, i would rather have those two guys in the future. I wouldnt mind seeing that deal to chicago so the suns could pick up chandler which would help them with size up front and getting thomas for the future

weezer182
06/25/06, 11:02 PM
The Suns aren't going to trade Marion. Guranteed 100 percent. D'antoni may not be that great of a coach but he's not semi-retarded to do this.D'antoni isn't the gm

StandMyBrothers
06/26/06, 01:22 AM
D'antoni isn't the gm yeah he is, after the younger Coangelo left to Toronto they promoted him to that role too. Like Popovich
http://www.insidehoops.com/dantoni-promoted-031106.shtml

StandMyBrothers
06/26/06, 09:03 AM
stole this from a yahoo article
Take the proposed Suns-Sonics deal. The idea behind the trade is that the Suns are looking to shed the remainder of Marion's contract (three years, $49.3 million) so that they will have more flexibility to re-sign Boris Diaw (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3724/) and Leandro Barbosa (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3731/) to contract extensions later this summer. Lewis, it could be argued, would be a good (and cheaper) replacement in the Suns' system.
However, in order for the deal to work under league trade rules, the Sonics would have to include the expiring contract of Danny Fortson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3180/). Yes, the same Danny Fortson who once sued Suns chairman Jerry Colangelo for "defamation" after the longtime executive complained about his physical play (Fortson, as a member of the Mavericks, had broken the hand of Suns forward Zarko Cabarkapa (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3720/) with a hard foul). It's hard to believe Colangelo would sign off on this one.
As for the proposed Marion-Chandler deal, it, too, smells fishy. Both Suns GM/coach Mike D'Antoni and Bulls GM John Paxson have vehemently denied it. The Suns surely would want more for an All-Star like Marion than a one-way player like Chandler and an unproven draft pick. Phoenix might be tempted if the Bulls were to throw in Gordon, but Chicago is unlikely to do that. The Bulls need a big man in order to take the next step, and Marion would not provide that dimension.

preppyak
06/26/06, 09:52 AM
Two rumors surrounding the Bulls. Trading Tyson Chandler and the #2 pick to the lakers for Bynum and Odom. Or sending the #2 pick and chandler to the Suns for Shawn Marion. They would draft Tyrus Thomas with the pick, and that would get their cap under control to resign barbosa and diaw next summer. I could see that...we just need a big man force, I don't care where it comes from, be it the #2 pick or trade

bulls will never trade away ben gordan not only will they...the rumors are that is what they are looking to do.

They have 2 solid PG options (Hinrich/Duhon), and can draft a SG anywhere in this draft really, Gordon is fairly expendable. If we can get away trading him and the #16 pick for a good center option, awesome, because we can still use the #2 to pick up Brandon Roy. Unless they are getting someone who puts up 20+pp and a signifcant rebounding force, than they shouldn't trade the #2 and Gordon though

For example, if the Bulls got Jermain O'neal, they would just need someone with the 16 pick to add scoring via the 2 spot. They can grab someone like Ronnie Brewer who can score and play D, or they could go for explosive scoring (leaving Hinrich to pass more, which he does exceptionally well in my mind) and pick up someone like Quincy Douby.

Granted, there isn;t a chance in hell Douby goes at #16, but, I'd love to see him on the Bulls for his scoring potential alone

Caleb Cattivera
06/26/06, 09:55 AM
The Suns aren't going to trade Marion. Guranteed 100 percent. D'antoni may not be that great of a coach but he's not semi-retarded to do this.

shawn marion will either be traded this season, or prior to next season. they want to keep guys a little younger around. you shoudl change that guaranteed 100 percent to about 22 percent.

preppyak
06/26/06, 10:06 AM
shawn marion will either be traded this season, or prior to next season. they want to keep guys a little younger around. you shoudl change that guaranteed 100 percent to about 22 percent.
On second thought...after looking at his stat-line...give me fucking Shawn Marion in Chicago.

Duhon/Hinrich at PG
Nocioni/Deng/Marion at the 3 and 4

And then pick up either a SG or C with the 16 spot, and pick up the other in free agency.

Marion - 21.8ppg, 11.3rpg, 2.0spg, 1.7bpg...I'll take that stat line added to the team (especially with 80& FT shooting, and 50+% from the field

LeftWideOpen
06/26/06, 10:10 AM
On second thought...after looking at his stat-line...give me fucking Shawn Marion in Chicago.

Duhon/Hinrich at PG
Nocioni/Deng/Marion at the 3 and 4

And then pick up either a SG or C with the 16 spot, and pick up the other in free agency.

Marion - 21.8ppg, 11.3rpg, 2.0spg, 1.7bpg...I'll take that stat line added to the team (especially with 80& FT shooting, and 50+% from the field

i think Saer Sene would be an awesome pick for the Bulls at #16 in that scenario, but he couldn't step right in. Hilton Armstrong is more of a guy who they could plug in, but #16 seems a little early for him.

sweethypocrisy
06/26/06, 10:20 AM
On second thought...after looking at his stat-line...give me fucking Shawn Marion in Chicago.

Duhon/Hinrich at PG
Nocioni/Deng/Marion at the 3 and 4

And then pick up either a SG or C with the 16 spot, and pick up the other in free agency.

Marion - 21.8ppg, 11.3rpg, 2.0spg, 1.7bpg...I'll take that stat line added to the team (especially with 80& FT shooting, and 50+% from the field
yeah, hes a beast. didnt he have a 20 point 20 rebound game or something close to that these playoffs?

preppyak
06/26/06, 10:20 AM
i think Saer Sene would be an awesome pick for the Bulls at #16 in that scenario, but he couldn't step right in. Hilton Armstrong is more of a guy who they could plug in, but #16 seems a little early for him.
Yeah...I was thinking the same with Douby, too early to take him

Dirty Ernie
06/26/06, 10:26 AM
iverson to boston is the new rumor out of philly...no details though

xbrokendownx
06/26/06, 10:40 AM
Yeah...I was thinking the same with Douby, too early to take him





trust me dude, you do NOT want douby....


and andrew bynum went to my HS! :)

preppyak
06/26/06, 10:57 AM
trust me dude, you do NOT want douby....


and andrew bynum went to my HS! :)
Why would we not want want probably the best scorer in this draft...aside from the fact his defense is terrible.

He wouldn't fit in the Chicago system...just he would need to play D and he can't...but I loved watching him at Rutgers, and if we trade away gordon and don't retain the #2 pick (the only way we get Roy), he'd be the only person to match Gordon's scoring, especially since Hinrich/Duhon combine for 12-ish assists per game

Caleb Cattivera
06/26/06, 11:50 AM
iverson to boston is the new rumor out of philly...no details though

you can shoot those rumors to the ground now. it's iverson to the celtics, boozer to the 76ers, and wally to the jazz. but it's one of the very faulty rumors going around.

livethesounds
06/26/06, 02:09 PM
you can shoot those rumors to the ground now. it's iverson to the celtics, boozer to the 76ers, and wally to the jazz. but it's one of the very faulty rumors going around.

I heard this too, i see boozer and iverson, but wally is past his prime in my opinion, who would take him over carlos boozer???

LeftWideOpen
06/26/06, 04:45 PM
Celtics is the news again, this is from DraftExpress ..

Celts are looking to trade down and a reported deal in the works is Chris Duhon and the #16 pick going to the C's for the #7 pick.

I'd be thrilled if this happened ...but Duhon has to approve it.

StandMyBrothers
06/26/06, 05:19 PM
http://www.hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

bigmike
06/26/06, 05:24 PM
hahaha, its great that you threw that in
haha. well it's the truth. apparently don't argue with him about the world cup, too, or you'll be banned 2 weeks or something.

xearlynovemberx
06/26/06, 05:25 PM
cal any word on harrington to the knicks?

FondestMemory
06/26/06, 05:28 PM
cal any word on harrington to the knicks?

cal? seriously?

it's two letters.

xearlynovemberx
06/26/06, 05:28 PM
cal? seriously?

it's two letters.

i hope so cause i dont want harrington especially since the hawks will prob ask for both picks and he isnt worth it

Caleb Cattivera
06/26/06, 05:32 PM
i hope so cause i dont want harrington especially since the hawks will prob ask for both picks and he isnt worth it

harrington>anyone on the knicks roster

xearlynovemberx
06/26/06, 05:35 PM
harrington>anyone on the knicks roster

i still dont want that piece of shit if it cost the knicks 2 draft picks maybe for an expiring and nate or something otherwise no...but isiahs a fucking moron who will trade both pics along with channing frye.....