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caveBEAR

12/16/09, 07:22 PM

I don't know if anyone gets TruTV on their television provider, but if you do, check out this show. It is some of the funniest television ever. Basically, Jesse Ventura begins at 10:00 not believing in a conspiracy, maybe not even being aware of it, just blindly living his life. Then, over the course of an hour, and a few interviews with Alex Jones-esque characters, Ventura and his team are unequivocally convinced of the theory, and leave the show as if they proved it.

It's amazing. I've already seen the 9/11 episode and now I'm watching the Global Warming episode.

jwicklun

12/16/09, 10:48 PM

:-)

12/16/09, 10:57 PM

saysmydoctor

12/16/09, 11:19 PM

Jesse Ventura is a nut.

/contribution

catscradle

12/17/09, 12:05 AM

Ahh I wish I had trutv. This is the only thing of his that I've seen and I've always wanted to hear more. He seems brilliant.

PeMuDN9Ewyc

At the end:
"I don't know why I like you, but I do"
"It's because I tell the you the truth, that's why." Haha

this is full of soo much win.

lmfao at hannity's reagan conservative spiel, that shit gets me every time.

hoser1689

12/17/09, 12:24 AM

i love in the 9-11 episode when they were talking about therimite he got all serious and said THIS COULD BE EVERYWHERE...in a way only The Body could.

caveBEAR

12/17/09, 08:37 AM

i love in the 9-11 episode when they were talking about therimite he got all serious and said THIS COULD BE EVERYWHERE...in a way only The Body could.

Ha ha ha ha, yeah, and the best part is, in that part, he was talking about how people could have painted thermite in buildings all over the country, just a bunch of buildings ready to go up in flames whenever the government wants it to.

I'm a big fan of asking questions about government stories, etc, because cover-ups and conspiracies do exist, but you can't be like the guys on this show; if someone's on the show and says '9/11 was actually perpetrated by mutant koalas bent on destruction', Ventura turns around and says, in The Body voice, 'MY GOD...THE KOALAS COULD BE IN ANY TREE...IN ANY PLANE!'

It doesn't help to go mindlessly from swallowing the official version to mindlessly swallowing the conspiracy.

hoser1689

12/17/09, 09:45 AM

Ha ha ha ha, yeah, and the best part is, in that part, he was talking about how people could have painted thermite in buildings all over the country, just a bunch of buildings ready to go up in flames whenever the government wants it to.

I'm a big fan of asking questions about government stories, etc, because cover-ups and conspiracies do exist, but you can't be like the guys on this show; if someone's on the show and says '9/11 was actually perpetrated by mutant koalas bent on destruction', Ventura turns around and says, in The Body voice, 'MY GOD...THE KOALAS COULD BE IN ANY TREE...IN ANY PLANE!'

It doesn't help to go mindlessly from swallowing the official version to mindlessly swallowing the conspiracy.of course they threw in the skeptic on the research team to question The Body and the conspiracy....who somehow gets proven wrong in the end..

i also loved in the first episode they were interviewing the old redneck who was wearing a G-Unit shirt...and when the body gets turned away from the gates and he says something along the lines of WHEN I GET THREATENED I DONT GET INTIMIDATED....I GET PISSED

lfdfforever

12/17/09, 10:31 AM

Jesse's going into stealth mode.

boxingwithstars

12/17/09, 01:26 PM

haha, i saw the 9/11 episode. i like Jesse Ventura, but he is fucking crazy.

jco3

12/17/09, 01:47 PM

Greatest Show ever.

I've seen the 9/11 and the Global Warming episode. Both were equally as great.

To me, it's just a fun involved way of getting the "other side" out there to the public.

GeeBee

12/17/09, 02:01 PM

Greatest Show ever.

I've seen the 9/11 and the Global Warming episode. Both were equally as great.

To me, it's just a fun involved way of getting the "other side" out there to the public.

If by "other side", you mean "unsubstantiated bullshit", then yes.

rawesome

12/17/09, 02:46 PM

If by "other side", you mean "unsubstantiated bullshit", then yes.
Having not watched it, I've heard that his 9/11 episode is actually really good. You should give it a try, no?

jwicklun

12/17/09, 02:56 PM

Having not watched it, I've heard that his 9/11 episode is actually really good. You should give it a try, no?
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Ventura probably ignored this evidence. But he needs the ratings!

jco3

12/17/09, 03:01 PM

I just take this as a fun TV show. F da haterz! Ventura for Prez!

GeeBee

12/17/09, 04:34 PM

Having not watched it, I've heard that his 9/11 episode is actually really good. You should give it a try, no?
I've heard all the conspiracy theories about 9/11 ad nauseum, and I find them all to be heavily lacking in anything plausible to say.

Justin_stacy

12/18/09, 08:26 AM

the shows nothing special at all, maybe with an original structure it could be some more as Ventura has an interesting personality, but as it stands now if feels like every other show on the National Geographic or Discovery.

This was entertaining though....

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Love Norton.

rawesome

12/18/09, 09:02 AM

caveBEAR

12/18/09, 09:09 AM

Norton sounds like a god damn idiot that entire time. Especially since he is OK with invading an entire country when a group of people (most not even from that country) attacks us, but 'fuck South Korea'. Norton has always irritated me, even with his stand up, and now I see why; I could sense that he was a tool.

12/18/09, 09:15 AM

This show makes everyone who watches it dumber. Jesse Ventura can not articulate any kind of sentence or thought that remotely sounds intelligent.

Justin_stacy

12/18/09, 11:00 AM

I've seen that clip before, I never understood what exactly it was that Norton was arguing for.

its irrelevant, just as Ventura's arguement.

the thing to take way, is the way Jesse essentially shuts down like a child when confronted with his own insulting and aggressive style (which he uses regularly on Conspiracy). I can't get over how great Norton turned that whole episode in on him.

thursday727

12/24/09, 12:20 AM

I dunno about the 9/11 and global warming episodes but the HAARP episode scared me shitless.

x togepi x

12/24/09, 01:39 AM

I dunno about the 9/11 and global warming episodes but the HAARP episode scared me shitless.

If you actually, uh, knew anything about HAARP, it wouldn't scare you at all.

caveBEAR

12/24/09, 07:10 AM

If you actually, uh, knew anything about HAARP, it wouldn't scare you at all.

Isn't that the crux of most conspiracy theories?

Justin_stacy

12/24/09, 08:47 AM

Isn't that the crux of most conspiracy theories?

hahahaha...

caveBEAR

12/24/09, 08:56 AM

I've actually been unearthing a conspiracy theory about how the Empire wasn't actually all that bad, and the entire Star Wars saga was actually the plot of Obi-wan Kenobi to get back at Vader.

x togepi x

12/24/09, 12:54 PM

Isn't that the crux of most conspiracy theories?

i don't know about that. i think some just make shit up (aliens, illuminati) some deal with a national tragedy to exploit it or help people cope (9/11) and yeah, some do just play towards people general ignorance of things like HAARP.

GuitarR0cker1

12/24/09, 01:33 PM

Jesse Ventura is so terrible at debating.

saysmydoctor

12/31/09, 06:19 PM

If you actually, uh, knew anything about HAARP, it wouldn't scare you at all.
I'll be honest, I know nothing about it. Literally. Like, what it means. Haha.

Tom Gooding

01/05/10, 01:01 PM

paper halo

01/05/10, 02:46 PM

Lol.

GeeBee

01/05/10, 02:46 PM

Does everyone here actually believe the official story of 9/11?

Really?

Also, Ventura's show is the first to mention Maurice Strong and all that he stands to gain from Global Warming.

And while the show does get sensationalist at times I'm still glad someone on TV is at least asking the questions that everyone else is just flat-out ignoring.

I don't know about the official story, but I sure as hell don't believe any of the bullshit conspiracy theories about "inside jobs". To think that the Bush administration could secretly undertake such an endeavor is retarded.

Tom Gooding

01/05/10, 03:24 PM

I don't know about the official story, but I sure as hell don't believe any of the bullshit conspiracy theories about "inside jobs". To think that the Bush administration could secretly undertake such an endeavor is retarded.

Man, I want to have this discussion with you, but you are clearly unable to have an actual conversation. So instead of giving you my problems with the official report and have them flatly dismissed as "bullshit conspiracy theories", I'll post a link.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

wrppdarndyrfngr

01/05/10, 03:34 PM

lol

paper halo

01/05/10, 03:35 PM

Machu505

01/05/10, 03:58 PM

lol

x togepi x

01/05/10, 04:12 PM

Man, I want to have this discussion with you, but you are clearly unable to have an actual conversation. So instead of giving you my problems with the official report and have them flatly dismissed as "bullshit conspiracy theories", I'll post a link.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

Answer me this honest question: Given the massive failures of the bush administration in the two wars, the economic collapse as well as the terrible handling of Katrina, do you honestly think the government would be capable of orchestrating 9/11 and not only make it successful but also make it so that nobody in government would have leaked the plan?

GeeBee

01/05/10, 05:18 PM

Man, I want to have this discussion with you, but you are clearly unable to have an actual conversation. So instead of giving you my problems with the official report and have them flatly dismissed as "bullshit conspiracy theories", I'll post a link.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

I don't want to have this discussion with you. You're clearly a crackpot in need of a real hobby. So instead of posting websites hosted by nutjobs with an axe to grind, why don't you go take a college course or something.

I'll post a link:

www.yugoscrewyourself.com (http://www.fuckyourstupidconspiracytheorie sandrealizethatbushcouldntcoordinat ehisownshoelacesletaloneamassiveatt ack.com)

Tom Gooding

01/05/10, 05:40 PM

I don't want to have this discussion with you. You're clearly a crackpot in need of a real hobby. So instead of posting websites hosted by nutjobs with an axe to grind, why don't you go take a college course or something.

I'll post a link:

www.yugoscrewyourself.com (http://www.fuckyourstupidconspiracytheorie sandrealizethatbushcouldntcoordinat ehisownshoelacesletaloneamassiveatt ack.com)

Thank you for proving my point.

GeeBee

01/05/10, 05:43 PM

Thank you for proving my point.

Yes. My post proved 9/11 was an inside job. Great sleuthing, gumshoe.

:rolleyes:

Tom Gooding

01/05/10, 05:52 PM

Answer me this honest question: Given the massive failures of the bush administration in the two wars, the economic collapse as well as the terrible handling of Katrina, do you honestly think the government would be capable of orchestrating 9/11 and not only make it successful but also make it so that nobody in government would have leaked the plan?

There are two schools of thought here. Those who think Bush let it happen, and those who think he made it happen. I happen to agree with the former, given the countries we know warned us, and that memo. My point right now is the fact that what they said happened either didn't happen or is a half truth. The things the government is telling us happened are more far-fetched than most of things any truthers are talking about. We didn't find a blackbox for the first time, ever, but we found one of the terrorists passports in practically perfect condition.

Do I think Bush orchestrated the attacks? No. But I do think at the very least he let it happen and then capitalized on it.

paper halo

01/05/10, 05:53 PM

It seems Bush overlooked something when he personally planned the 9/11 attacks, he was not prepared for the scrutiny of such great minds. Cheney might have realised, but alas, he was busy at his Illuminate meeting.

Edit: Damn, posted this too late to be relevant.

x togepi x

01/05/10, 05:57 PM

There are two schools of thought here. Those who think Bush let it happen, and those who think he made it happen. I happen to agree with the former, given the countries we know warned us, and that memo. My point right now is the fact that what they said happened either didn't happen or is a half truth. The things the government is telling us happened are more far-fetched than most of things any truthers are talking about. We didn't find a blackbox for the first time, ever, but we found one of the terrorists passports in practically perfect condition.

Do I think Bush orchestrated the attacks? No. But I do think at the very least he let it happen and then capitalized on it.

but just because there are half truths or things that didn't happen doesn't mean the entire official story is debunked.

George Washington never chopped down that cherry tree. Apparently this means he wasn't the first president.

GeeBee

01/05/10, 06:07 PM

There are two schools of thought here. Those who think Bush let it happen, and those who think he made it happen. I happen to agree with the former, given the countries we know warned us, and that memo. My point right now is the fact that what they said happened either didn't happen or is a half truth. The things the government is telling us happened are more far-fetched than most of things any truthers are talking about. We didn't find a blackbox for the first time, ever, but we found one of the terrorists passports in practically perfect condition.

Do I think Bush orchestrated the attacks? No. But I do think at the very least he let it happen and then capitalized on it.

Good god you're stupid. I mean really, really stupid.

caveBEAR

01/05/10, 06:33 PM

I'll bite.

There are two schools of thought here. Those who think Bush let it happen, and those who think he made it happen.

I wouldn't call them 'two schools of thought', I would refer to them more as two after-school detentions of thought.

Bush could not have orchestrated 9/11. If you know anything about how the government works, then you'd know it wouldn't have stayed secret. At all. No questions.

As for letting it happen? Word your phrases more carefully. If you want to say 'Bush didn't have the proper policies in place to ensure something like this wouldn't happen', well, you'd probably still be wrong, but you'd be on the right track.

I happen to agree with the former, given the countries we know warned us, and that memo.

The countries we know warn us about a lot. You do realize there are more than 1 or 2 people in the world at a time that wish to do us harm, right? Same goes for the memo. Sure, there was a memo saying that Osama was 'intent' or whatever to attack within the USA. There were thousands of those memos that never turned into anything, and the memo didn't say 'Hey, Bush, they're going to use planes on 9/11 and here are their names lol', it had no details other than 'guy we know wants to attack us still wants to attack us'.

My point right now is the fact that what they said happened either didn't happen or is a half truth.

Ooooooohkay.

The things the government is telling us happened are more far-fetched than most of things any truthers are talking about.

Government = religious zealots use commercial airliners as weapons, and use them more effectively than anyone could have planned.

Truthers = Government planted bombs and painted flammable materials on the walls, faked a plane crash, detonated the buildings, pulled down other buildings for shits and giggles, crashed a plane in a field, and murdered thousands of Americans so that when Americans protest the invasion to Iraq in record numbers they can ignore them and do it anyway.

Question? Why didn't Bush just invade Iraq to begin with? It wasn't like everyone was ecstatic about that.

We didn't find a blackbox for the first time, ever, but we found one of the terrorists passports in practically perfect condition.

Someone doesn't understand physics....An explosion throws things, such as bone pieces, paper, passports, etc., far, far away, and if they aren't destroyed in the initial blast or smolder in the fire, they'll be alright, just far away.

As well, we never found the black boxes because no black box has ever had to withstand the punishment those black boxes took. Planes don't directly nose dive into buildings, in most cases the pilots at least try to stop the crash. Of course the black boxes were destroyed, it's like building a LEGO house, dropping a fifty pound weight on it, then being surprised you can't find some of the pieces.

Do I think Bush orchestrated the attacks? No. But I do think at the very least he let it happen and then capitalized on it.

Bush definitely capitalized on the attack, but so did a looooooooooooooooooot of other people and agencies. Were they all in on it, too?

GeeBee

01/05/10, 06:37 PM

I'll bite.

I wouldn't call them 'two schools of thought', I would refer to them more as two after-school detentions of thought.

Bush could not have orchestrated 9/11. If you know anything about how the government works, then you'd know it wouldn't have stayed secret. At all. No questions.

As for letting it happen? Word your phrases more carefully. If you want to say 'Bush didn't have the proper policies in place to ensure something like this wouldn't happen', well, you'd probably still be wrong, but you'd be on the right track.

The countries we know warn us about a lot. You do realize there are more than 1 or 2 people in the world at a time that wish to do us harm, right? Same goes for the memo. Sure, there was a memo saying that Osama was 'intent' or whatever to attack within the USA. There were thousands of those memos that never turned into anything, and the memo didn't say 'Hey, Bush, they're going to use planes on 9/11 and here are their names lol', it had no details other than 'guy we know wants to attack us still wants to attack us'.

Ooooooohkay.

Government = religious zealots use commercial airliners as weapons, and use them more effectively than anyone could have planned.

Truthers = Government planted bombs and painted flammable materials on the walls, faked a plane crash, detonated the buildings, pulled down other buildings for shits and giggles, crashed a plane in a field, and murdered thousands of Americans so that when Americans protest the invasion to Iraq in record numbers they can ignore them and do it anyway.

Question? Why didn't Bush just invade Iraq to begin with? It wasn't like everyone was ecstatic about that.

Someone doesn't understand physics....An explosion throws things, such as bone pieces, paper, passports, etc., far, far away, and if they aren't destroyed in the initial blast or smolder in the fire, they'll be alright, just far away.

As well, we never found the black boxes because no black box has ever had to withstand the punishment those black boxes took. Planes don't directly nose dive into buildings, in most cases the pilots at least try to stop the crash. Of course the black boxes were destroyed, it's like building a LEGO house, dropping a fifty pound weight on it, then being surprised you can't find some of the pieces.

Bush definitely capitalized on the attack, but so did a looooooooooooooooooot of other people and agencies. Were they all in on it, too?

Thank you. This was far better written and more thought-out than my simple insult, though both are applicable.

caveBEAR

01/05/10, 06:57 PM

Thank you. This was far better written and more thought-out than my simple insult, though both are applicable.

Agreed. I can't stand 9/11 conspiracy theories two-fold;

1.) It takes away from what the government did after 9/11 because all these people who give a shit about the 'truth' are too busy grasping at straws in the time before the attacks.

2.) I lost friends of the family in the attack, so I don't like people baselessly throwing around their memories.

GeeBee

01/05/10, 07:02 PM

Agreed. I can't stand 9/11 conspiracy theories two-fold;

1.) It takes away from what the government did after 9/11 because all these people who give a shit about the 'truth' are too busy grasping at straws in the time before the attacks.

2.) I lost friends of the family in the attack, so I don't like people baselessly throwing around their memories.

Precisely.

I hate "truthers" about as much as I hate 9/11 profiteers and anyone who attempts to capitalize on nationalistic, patriotic fervor that followed.

caveBEAR

01/05/10, 07:05 PM

Precisely.

I hate "truthers" about as much as I hate 9/11 profiteers and anyone who attempts to capitalize on nationalistic, patriotic fervor that followed.

Ha ha ha ha ha, do you feel as alone as I do? Like people on the 'other side' piss you off with their ignorance, but you turn around to 'your side' and it's just as bad there...

caveBEAR

01/05/10, 07:08 PM

Tomorrow night, TruTV, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura @ 9:00 - Secret Societies, and @ 10:00 - Manchurian Candidates.

Should be a riot.

GeeBee

01/05/10, 07:12 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha, do you feel as alone as I do? Like people on the 'other side' piss you off with their ignorance, but you turn around to 'your side' and it's just as bad there...

Seriously, "truthers" are a disgrace to an otherwise level-headed left wing.

x togepi x

01/05/10, 07:40 PM

Seriously, "truthers" are a disgrace to an otherwise level-headed left wing.

left wing?

most truthers i met were crazy right wing libertarians.

GeeBee

01/05/10, 07:43 PM

left wing?

most truthers i met were crazy right wing libertarians.

There are a good many lefties among them who are so blinded by their hatred of all things Bush that it clouds their judgment.

Machu505

01/05/10, 07:44 PM

There are a good many lefties among them who are so blinded by their hatred of all things Bush that it clouds their judgment.
This is true.

x togepi x

01/05/10, 07:45 PM

There are a good many lefties among them who are so blinded by their hatred of all things Bush that it clouds their judgment.

I always thought the majority of their ranks were Alex Jonesian libertarians who also hated Bush.

Bush makes the left/right dichotomy hard to distinguish in certain cases like this.

caveBEAR

01/05/10, 07:48 PM

I always thought the majority of their ranks were Alex Jonesian libertarians who also hated Bush.

Bush makes the left/right dichotomy hard to distinguish in certain cases like this.

Yeah, there's a lot of 'Rock Against Bush' lefties who just have no idea what they are talking about. The shit that spews out of their mouths is usually closer to the X-Files than real life.

x togepi x

01/05/10, 07:52 PM

Yeah, there's a lot of 'Rock Against Bush' lefties who just have no idea what they are talking about. The shit that spews out of their mouths is usually closer to the X-Files than real life.

do you think they would self identify as left though? that whole rock against bush thing seemed vaguely political at best. i mean i know they supported Kerry but that was in leadership.

caveBEAR

01/05/10, 07:56 PM

do you think they would self identify as left though? that whole rock against bush thing seemed vaguely political at best. i mean i know they supported Kerry but that was in leadership.

Oh yeah. It's dumb college kids who start drinking then won't shut the fuck up about the 'left being right HA HA HA HA HA' and then push some either 4th grade politics on you, or some batshit crazy Zeitgeist theory.

x togepi x

01/05/10, 08:01 PM

Oh yeah. It's dumb college kids who start drinking then won't shut the fuck up about the 'left being right HA HA HA HA HA' and then push some either 4th grade politics on you, or some batshit crazy Zeitgeist theory.

haha i was talking to a girl about documentaries the other day and she was like "have you seen zietgiest?" and i just said FUCK THAT in such a dismissive tone that she stopped talking to me.

pretty awesome.

thursday727

01/06/10, 12:52 AM

x togepi x

01/06/10, 01:17 AM

this show is stupid and only good for entertainment value.

9/11 was done by islamic fundamentalists. we landed on the moon. HAARP is merely a research center. global warming is real. you're an idiot if you don't see these facts.

stop being a caricature because the government really does fucked up shit, but we can't point that out because people like you make us look like crazies.

caveBEAR

01/06/10, 08:59 AM

stop being a caricature because the government really does fucked up shit, but we can't point that out because people like you make us look like crazies.

Exactly.

kwsqd

01/06/10, 09:00 AM

rofl.

JoeJealousy

01/07/10, 07:35 AM

I have seen every episode of this show. I am a big Ventura supporter. It reminds me a lot of Alex Jones' documentaries, but a little less "out there". I mean they make good points on things in each episode. Overall great show.

GeeBee

01/07/10, 02:51 PM

JoeJealousy

01/07/10, 03:11 PM

What the fuck does it mean to be a "Ventura supporter"?

It means i agree with some of political views. I also enjoyed his wrestling career, lol.

GeeBee

01/07/10, 03:12 PM

It means i agree with some of political views. I also enjoyed his wrestling career, lol.

Haha, ok, fair enough.

SeeTheLights

12/05/11, 04:08 PM

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Someone just posted this on Facebook, the person is such a nutjob lol.

Jake Gyllenhaal

12/05/11, 05:28 PM

Thanks for bumping this thread... gives me an excuse to post this clip of comedian James Adomian

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David87

12/05/11, 05:42 PM

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jawstheme

12/06/11, 04:35 PM

Man, I wish I didn't have school work because I would love to just marathon this. The part at the beginning of the fema one where they just assume the black bins are coffins almost had me rolling.

knash9

12/06/11, 05:25 PM

Another good 9/11 debunk link (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842)

Do I believe that the government may not be letting all of the information out? Sure. Do I believe they handled the situation poorly? Yes.

However, to say that it was an inside job is bullshit. The only part I could believe about the conspiracy is that the government shot down flight 93. However, I do not know much about that specifically.

Scrandon

12/06/11, 06:07 PM

Thanks for bumping this thread... gives me an excuse to post this clip of comedian James Adomian
That was fucking funny. :appl:

knash9

12/06/11, 07:21 PM

"what's more American than supporting Ron Paul?"