7-7?

[PdoubleEk]

so, espn.com posted a poll asking which 7-7 AFC team had the best chance of making the playoffs. the choices were as follows

dolphins
jaguars
texans
titans
steelers

im personally torn between the titans, dolphins, and steelers.

what do you guys think?

[xbrokendownx]

Jaguars have the best conference record at 6-4 out of those teams so id say them

[PdoubleEk]

Jaguars have the best conference record at 6-4 out of those teams so id say them

i didnt think about the fact that theyve also given the best team in football a run for their money this year


twice.

[Ben09]

Hopefully the Titans can somehow pull it off. Beating SD is going to be hard though.

This coming week Denver plays Philly, PIT plays the Ravens, Jets play the Colts, Miami and Houston plays each other and Jaguars play the Patriots.

Rooting for teams that I hate is going to suck.

[PdoubleEk]

Hopefully the Titans can somehow pull it off. Beating SD is going to be hard though.

This coming week Denver plays Philly, PIT plays the Ravens, Jets play the Colts, Miami and Houston plays each other and Jaguars play the Patriots.

in that case, chalk up another win for the colts. lets hope the jags beat those patriot bastards. im liking vince youngs play lately though

[billyboatkid]

No matter how much I hate them. Steelers.

I can't believe Denver choked so bad today playing the Raiders.. wtf.

[schenksta]

I don't see any of them making it, but I'm hoping the Titans will

[COREhorizon]

No matter how much I hate them. Steelers.

I can't believe Denver choked so bad today playing the Raiders.. wtf.

Don't feel bad - the Raiders beat the Eagles, Bengals, and Steelers this year too.

[xbrokendownx]

if Miami wins out (vs. HOU, vs. PIT), NE beats JAX, and PIT beats BAL, the Dolphins make the playoffs

[Kurt Retenauer]

The Steelers will not make the playoffs. And this is coming from a fan. We don't even deserve to make the playoffs, we've had an awful year. I blame the secondary/defense mostly, but Big Ben hasn't been too consistent (aside from tonight) either.

[dontdrivenaked]

Titans, they've been hot with Vince Young at QB

[M.C COB]

I hope the Dolphins do

[Josh Weinstein]

Who cares about mediocre teams? Colts are going to win the super bowl this year.

[xbrokendownx]

conference records for these teams:

MIA: 5-5
PIT: 4-6
NYJ: 5-5
TEN: 4-7
HOU: 4-6
JAX: 6-4

[abcdefghijake]

The Steelers will not make the playoffs. And this is coming from a fan. We don't even deserve to make the playoffs, we've had an awful year. I blame the secondary/defense mostly, but Big Ben hasn't been too consistent (aside from tonight) either.

"Big Ben" has never been consistent.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Who cares about mediocre teams? Colts are going to win the super bowl this year.

Saints.

[Kurt Retenauer]

"Big Ben" has never been consistent.

Sweet, never said he was consistent. Glad to see you agree with me.

[xbrokendownx]

yea hes got 2 super bowls, that guy stinks

[Kurt Retenauer]

Yeah because the two Super Bowls are courtesy of he, himself. Not like Harrison ran back an interception to win it last year, eh?

[xbrokendownx]

so youre saying he had no part in winning the super bowl? man some of you people that complain about your teams really need some perspective. try having guys like ray lucas, AJ feeley, sage rosenfels, trent green (post concussions), etc QB your team and then get back to me

[Kurt Retenauer]

Not saying that at all. I'm saying that I don't think he's as consistent as other quarterbacks, i.e. there are much better quarterbacks in the league than him. Surely he contributed to winning both of our Super Bowls and the games that got us there, but I don't recall any games he "won" for us, if that makes any sense. It always seems like the defense has to pull through and pick up the pieces left behind from a rather mediocre offense with the Steelers. And with Polamalu being gone for the majority this year, we've seen what the Steelers really are without a fantastic defense, which is mediocre at best.

[Josh Weinstein]

Saints.

Let's hope the Saints don't face the Cowboys in the NFC Championship. ;-)

[Kurt Retenauer]

Let's hope the Saints don't face the Cowboys in the NFC Championship. ;-)

Haha true story.

[xbrokendownx]

you dont remember any games hes won for you? is that a joke? if it wasnt for him, you guys might be like 3-9 this year

[Kurt Retenauer]

you dont remember any games hes won for you? is that a joke? if it wasnt for him, you guys might be like 3-9 this year

Okay.

[xbrokendownx]

hes 8th in the league in passing yards, 5th in completion %, 6th in QB rating

i mean what more do you want the guy to do

[sleepyseanzzz]

No matter how much I hate them. Steelers.

I can't believe Denver choked so bad today playing the Raiders.. wtf.

didn't catch that game instead i watched the jets choke terribly. my brother was almost in tears throwing shit around the house

edit: as i laughed because my favorite team is undefeated

[abcdefghijake]

Sweet, never said he was consistent. Glad to see you agree with me.

Yeah yeah didn't mean it to seem like you did, just making a general statement.

I also hate the Steelers though.

I just don't like most people from Pit, no offense.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Yeah yeah didn't mean it to seem like you did, just making a general statement.

I also hate the Steelers though.

I just don't like most people from Pit, no offense.

Haha none taken.

[abcdefghijake]

yea hes got 2 super bowls, that guy stinks
Really?
Tim Tebow has two National Championship rings, but it's not like he did much for the first one.
I could have one that first Super Bowl, all he did was hand the ball off.

[Clark]

Really?
Tim Tebow has two National Championship rings, but it's not like he did much for the first one.
I could have one that first Super Bowl, all he did was hand the ball off.
Awesome.

[abcdefghijake]

Awesome.

Sorry I'm drunk?

[guccimaneburrrr]

no you're a woman

[raukura]

hes 8th in the league in passing yards, 5th in completion %, 6th in QB rating

i mean what more do you want the guy to do

not lose to the browns, chiefs and raiders lol

[pr0digy]

Team Pride makes me say the Steelers, but they've been so inconsistent that I don't know if it's realistic anymore, even after today's big win

[QuikTrig]

steelers fans are blaming ben for being inconsistent? seriously? off all the things about your team, you're complaining about him? jesus christ.

[livethesounds]

if Miami wins out (vs. HOU, vs. PIT), NE beats JAX, and PIT beats BAL, the Dolphins make the playoffs

hm...you sure? i just checked that on the playoff generator and if the titans were to win out and that happened, the Titans would be in. Somehow if the Ravens BEAT the Raiders and lose to the Steelers, NE beats JAX, and the Phins win out they make it.

edit: That's actually right if you're assuming the titans lose to the Chargers. But i still like the chances for you guys. Nothing against the Phins, but I'd rather see the Ravens in it. They're the stronger team, and would make for a better playoff match up IMO.

honestly i don't think either will do it. I'd like those odds to make it if the Phins won out, but that's going to be incredbily hard against the Texans and Steelers.

[livethesounds]

if the texans win out they only need the ravens to lose out haha. that looks better than some other scenarios, however unlikley

[Alex_supertramp]

The Steelers will not make the playoffs. And this is coming from a fan. We don't even deserve to make the playoffs, we've had an awful year. I blame the secondary/defense mostly, but Big Ben hasn't been too consistent (aside from tonight) either.

Don't even talk about consistency with me. I'm an Iowa Hawkeye and Dallas Cowboys fan and trust me neither quarterback has an ounce of consistency. Ricky Stanzi passed for 300+ yards and 1 interception one week and then comes in the next week and throws for 97 yards and 5 interceptions. And if you watch the NFL, which I assume you do, you already know what a struggle Tony Romo has. I realize this is off topic but I would gladly trade you both my quarterbacks for Mr. Ben.

[QuikTrig]

because tony romo is such a bad quarterback as well? X-)

this consistent stuff has to stop. so your QB has a couple bad games....every damn qb does. we can't all have brees or favre. would you rather have your QB be consistently bad? try being a raiders fan or something.

[KidRobot]

because tony romo is such a bad quarterback as well? X-)

this consistent stuff has to stop. so your QB has a couple bad games....every damn qb does. we can't all have brees or favre. would you rather have your QB be consistently bad? try being a raiders fan or something.

Are you suggesting Brett Favre is consistant? X-)

[FondestMemory]

The Steelers will not make the playoffs. And this is coming from a fan. We don't even deserve to make the playoffs, we've had an awful year. I blame the secondary/defense mostly, but Big Ben hasn't been too consistent (aside from tonight) either.

the defense, mostly the secondary has been awful in key spots. but i think the biggest problem is arians. the offensive playcalling is fucking atrocious and has been ever since he took over. i hope to hell he's gone after this season.

Yeah because the two Super Bowls are courtesy of he, himself. Not like Harrison ran back an interception to win it last year, eh?

not like ben threw a pass through a pin hole to santonio to win it last year, eh?

Not saying that at all. I'm saying that I don't think he's as consistent as other quarterbacks, i.e. there are much better quarterbacks in the league than him. Surely he contributed to winning both of our Super Bowls and the games that got us there, but I don't recall any games he "won" for us, if that makes any sense. It always seems like the defense has to pull through and pick up the pieces left behind from a rather mediocre offense with the Steelers. And with Polamalu being gone for the majority this year, we've seen what the Steelers really are without a fantastic defense, which is mediocre at best.

he won the indianapolis game the season during his first super bowl. and did you watch any of last season? at all? i don't see how you can watch any of last season and claim he hasn't "won" games for us. dude had like 6 fourth quarter comeback wins alone just last season, including the superbowl.

he's not the manning/brady/brees level, but he's right there in that tier behind him. he may not be the most consistent qb in the game, but he comes through when it counts the most.

for his career, his qb rating is higher in the fourth quarter of games than it is for any other quarter. his qb rating in december and january is also higher than it is from sept-nov. dude may not be the most consistent, but dude is fucking clutch and i'm glad he's our's.

Really?
Tim Tebow has two National Championship rings, but it's not like he did much for the first one.
I could have one that first Super Bowl, all he did was hand the ball off.

and score a rushing td. and complete a miraculous pass to hines to set up that score.

he played awful in the first super bowl, but they never would have been there if he hadn't played so amazing in the first three rounds and down the stretch of that season.

but, you've never said anything even remotely intelligent in here, so i don't even know why i included your post.

not lose to the browns, chiefs and raiders lol

the chiefs and raiders games are entirely on the defense. and the browns were due to playcalling. i don't blame ben for any of those.

ben gets a lot of shit, but the dude does so much shit that he doesn't get any credit for.

[abcdefghijake]

and score a rushing td. and complete a miraculous pass to hines to set up that score.

he played awful in the first super bowl, but they never would have been there if he hadn't made a very lucky tackle.

but, you've never said anything even remotely intelligent in here, so i don't even know why i included your post.





You're actually trying to argue that "Big Ben" is a good NFL quarterback, and I didn't say anything intelligent...
Look what happens when they don't have a defense.
He can't put up points.
He has good wide receivers, and is mediocre at best.
Good try though.

[guccimaneburrrr]

go cook and clean and leave the quarterback discussion up to us.

[QuikTrig]

Are you suggesting Brett Favre is consistant? X-)

barring his last 3 games which have been eh, i would say yes, he's been pretty "consistent". either way, replace him with whoever you want - manning, whoever. same point.

[xbrokendownx]

You're actually trying to argue that "Big Ben" is a good NFL quarterback, and I didn't say anything intelligent...
Look what happens when they don't have a defense.
He can't put up points.
He has good wide receivers, and is mediocre at best.
Good try though.




he put up 36 points yesterday against a pretty damn good defense....

[abcdefghijake]

go cook and clean and leave the quarterback discussion up to us.

says the scrawny white boy.

[abcdefghijake]

he put up 36 points yesterday against a pretty damn good defense....

He has good games no doubt.

[FondestMemory]

You're actually trying to argue that "Big Ben" is a good NFL quarterback, and I didn't say anything intelligent...
Look what happens when they don't have a defense.
He can't put up points.
He has good wide receivers, and is mediocre at best.
Good try though.

i never said he was a good nfl quarterback. i said he is a great one.

i wouldn't expect you to understand that though because it actually makes sense.

[guccimaneburrrr]

post a pic and we'll see if you get it. if you do, then you can stay.

[abcdefghijake]

i never said he was a good nfl quarterback. i said he is a great one.

i wouldn't expect you to understand that though because it actually makes sense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh man.
Thank you for the laugh of the day.

[Zeran]

i like the dolphins.

[guccimaneburrrr]

i like turtles

[KidRobot]

barring his last 3 games which have been eh, i would say yes, he's been pretty "consistent". either way, replace him with whoever you want - manning, whoever. same point.

He's the all time leader in interceptions. When Brett Favre is bad....he's BADDDDDDD. Just ask the Jets.

[11:11]

if the texans win out they only need the ravens to lose out haha. that looks better than some other scenarios, however unlikley
I really want this to happen, because I love the Texans...but at the same time, I don't want Kubiak to stay just because he got them into the playoffs for the first time. He needs to go.

[Nick Hull]

Steelers always step it up for the playoffs.

[xbrokendownx]

they have to make it there first...

[livethesounds]

this is a good idea for a thread with a lot of ignorant people posting in it.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Go Texans.

[xbrokendownx]

dolphins have never beaten the Texans

lets hope that changes sunday

[guccimaneburrrr]

dolphins have never beaten the Texans

lets hope that changes sunday

only lost by 7 combined points in the 4 games. so its not like you're getting killed.

[xbrokendownx]

oh i know the games are always close

last year they lost on a matt schaub QB draw on the last play of the game

[IcedOpethBlind]

that play was so goooooooood haha still remember it, what a great game

[xbrokendownx]

its funny because i remember watching that game and i rememeber saying "watch the QB draw!" right before the play because i saw how they lined up

oh well no complaints about last season

[emkvetwin]

oh i know the games are always close

last year they lost on a matt schaub QB draw on the last play of the game

I remember them winning an opening-game matchup on a last-second FG, back when Houston was dreadful. Probably a long time ago.

[EDIT: ok, 2003.]

[drawndead]

j e t s jets jets jets :(