Underoath's First Week Sales

[Scott Weber]

Looks like the projections were right. Early soundscan reports show that Underoath (www.underoath777.com) scanned close to 100,000 copies of their new record Define the Great Line in its first week in stores.

[Katie Schmitz]

Wow, congrats to UO

[The Silencer]

so happy for them, they've come so far.

[IcedOpethBlind]

:appl:

[guirock]

\o/

[pasthefence49]

Daaaaamn


que the music

"mooooving on up............to the big time" repeat x5

[MotionIsntMeaning]

That is awesome. DTGL is such a solid album.

[last light]

where does that put them on the charts?

[Anton Djamoos]

"There Could Be Nothing After This" is my favorite on the album.

[xXrunninglateXx]

Did anyone realize that this is one of "those" albums that leaked early and yet sales were not affected AT ALL. Besides the fact that this a huge benchmark for all of indie music, I think the fact that is was not affected by leaking early is just as great of an accomplishment. Congrats to the band for their sales and on making an amazing album!

[thegreatescape1]

hitsdailydouble says they've sold 94,868

[live4music]

hell yes. now i get to witness them rip onstage while their album is number one. boo-yah... well actually that prolly wont make them number one. damn

[fenderbassist]

i got one of those 100,000 copies

[*crying stars*]

woot! congrats to them.

[Storybookhero]

where does that put them on the charts?


#2

[ACA]

How the fuck is Underoath bigger than Thursday or Thrice....

-ACA

[The Silencer]

Did anyone realize that this is one of "those" albums that leaked early and yet sales were not affected AT ALL. Besides the fact that this a huge benchmark for all of indie music, I think the fact that is was not affected by leaking early is just as great of an accomplishment. Congrats to the band for their sales and on making an amazing album!
proof that leaking isn't necessarily as bad as some assholes make it out to be.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Good, it's a great CD. In related news, the new Shadows Fall debuted at #83 on the Billboard Top 200 with 12,700 sold.

[unwritten]

Wow, Congrats to them. I like their new album a lot.

[GDSP]

A huge win for 06's equivalent of 80s hair metal! Congrats to the new Poison!

[meeotch]

they deserve it

glad i could contribute

[monicaaaa!]

#2

wow:appl:

[Chris Fallon]

Fuckin shit - that's awesome for them! Congrats to the guys - they deserve every ounce of fame that comes their way. DTGL is a tremendous achievement, and will hopefully sell 100,000x100,000!!!

[i3rendan]

why?

[Lovewaslove]

How are they bigger and better than thursday, Well Because Thrice thought by writing shitty music they could capture a bigger audience and finnaly get paid for all their hard work. Jack offs and The same with thursday Underoath while they still are a copy cat band At least they didnt go in the direction of thrice or evan thursday, Thursday biggest disapointment of the year and Underoath the best surprise album of the year Did not think it would be this good, But Best album of the year Def goes to TROPHY SCARS
1.trophy scars
2.Head automatica
3.Underoath

so far still waiting on that brand new

[TJ Wells]

How are they bigger and better than thursday, Well Because Thrice thought by writing shitty music they could capture a bigger audience and finnaly get paid for all their hard work. Jack offs and The same with thursday Underoath while they still are a copy cat band At least they didnt go in the direction of thrice or evan thursday, Thursday biggest disapointment of the year and Underoath the best surprise album of the year Did not think it would be this good, But Best album of the year Def goes to TROPHY SCARS
1.trophy scars
2.Head automatica
3.Underoath

so far still waiting on that brand new
Wow, you're a fuckin' idiot. Nice to meet you. Learn about punctuation and grammar.

[MotionIsntMeaning]

How the fuck is Underoath bigger than Thursday or Thrice....

-ACA

Cause they actually wrote a decent album.

[AloneInTheDark]

So I was listening to Define The Great Line today, and determine, instrumentally, it sounds a lot like Thursday. Not in the fact that they are ripping on Thursdays sound, but theres just a feel to it, maybe that's why it's so...much better?

[andyriggedrec]

How are they bigger and better than thursday, Well Because Thrice thought by writing shitty music they could capture a bigger audience and finnaly get paid for all their hard work. Jack offs and The same with thursday Underoath while they still are a copy cat band At least they didnt go in the direction of thrice or evan thursday, Thursday biggest disapointment of the year and Underoath the best surprise album of the year Did not think it would be this good, But Best album of the year Def goes to TROPHY SCARS
1.trophy scars
2.Head automatica
3.Underoath

so far still waiting on that brand new


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha.

I feel so good about myself and my life just knowing that I am not you.

YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON.

[Scott Weber]

So I was listening to Define The Great Line today, and determine, instrumentally, it sounds a lot like Thursday. Not in the fact that they are ripping on Thursdays sound, but theres just a feel to it, maybe that's why it's so...much better?
You think Underoath sounds like Thursday, musically? Uhhh...what? Wow. Check your ears.

[goughjustin]

You think Underoath sounds like Thursday, musically? Uhhh...what? Wow. Check your ears.

S.weber told you to check your ears...hahaha.........hot soup!

[timmysavedlatin]

they outsold keane. that's huge.

[AloneInTheDark]

You think Underoath sounds like Thursday, musically? Uhhh...what? Wow. Check your ears.

Well..not complely, they're a lot harder, and a lot more metalcore than Thursday, but the way they construct thier songs, and like the guitar intro to You're Ever So Inviting ring Thursday in my head. I don't know, i guess it's just me. I don't think they sound like Thursday, but in thier slower songs, I just think of Thursday, if that makes any sense whatsoever.

Who is Scott Weber?

[XErikxthexRedX]

How the fuck is Underoath bigger than Thursday or Thrice....

-ACA

It's simple, thrice and thursday are on the wrong damn label. They are getting shit on when it comes to their label support. I've never seen a shittier promotion for a stellar album then what happened with Vhessiu. It was like oh hey its a week til the release "go buy vhessiu". Where with DTGL Solid State promoted the shit out of that record, if you didn't hear about that record then most likely you were either living under a rock or you didn't wanna buy the cd anyway. I haven't seen a record promtoted so perfectly ever, thus 100,000 in sales. Plus it didn't hurt that DTGL was a very solid and amazing record on its own either.

[obeng]

i dont think ive been prouder of a band than i am right now.

[SellOuts]

In case you guys didn't know, HitsDailyDouble isn't always accurate. SScan will tell what number they really are tomorrow.

[gonz]

How are they bigger and better than thursday, Well Because Thrice thought by writing shitty music they could capture a bigger audience and finnaly get paid for all their hard work. Jack offs and The same with thursday Underoath while they still are a copy cat band At least they didnt go in the direction of thrice or evan thursday, Thursday biggest disapointment of the year and Underoath the best surprise album of the year Did not think it would be this good, But Best album of the year Def goes to TROPHY SCARS
1.trophy scars
2.Head automatica
3.Underoath

so far still waiting on that brand new

That was a whole lotta idiocy rolled into one...paragraph?

Well..not complely, they're a lot harder, and a lot more metalcore than Thursday, but the way they construct thier songs, and like the guitar intro to You're Ever So Inviting ring Thursday in my head. I don't know, i guess it's just me. I don't think they sound like Thursday, but in thier slower songs, I just think of Thursday, if that makes any sense whatsoever.

Who is Scott Weber?

Whaaaaaaaaattttt???? None of that makes sense, sorry.

[Slovo]

How the fuck is Underoath bigger than Thursday or Thrice....

-ACA
well put.

Underoath = Overrated.

go ahead, take my scene points.

[leftstranded]

congrats to them

[chuckmagnum]

pretty good promotional effort too

[Scott Weber]

Well..not complely, they're a lot harder, and a lot more metalcore than Thursday, but the way they construct thier songs, and like the guitar intro to You're Ever So Inviting ring Thursday in my head. I don't know, i guess it's just me. I don't think they sound like Thursday, but in thier slower songs, I just think of Thursday, if that makes any sense whatsoever.

Who is Scott Weber?
You're crazy.


Uh...I'm Scott Weber. I work here.

?

[GreenJellyBean]

so happy for them. i love this cd.

[lilRIPsta]

i love underoath, but they are no where near wat Thursday and Thrice are. Sure UO have made a great album, but it is nothing compared to the masterpiece vheeisu is. and i agree with the person who said that they need to get off Island cuz this is bullshit. Even i barely knew about both Thrices and Thursday's release till the release date was near.

[theredline]

Wow, you're a fuckin' idiot. Nice to meet you. Learn about punctuation and grammar.
Nice to meet you, what are we still in elementary school where grammar matters? I am so sick of people bitching when someone makes one mistake. Get over it. Who cares if someone makes a mistake. IT'S THE FUCKING INTERNET. Who cares. Don't you have anything better to do that correct people's grammar. Fucking a.

[goughjustin]

i love underoath, but they are no where near wat Thursday and Thrice are. Sure UO have made a great album, but it is nothing compared to the masterpiece vheeisu is. and i agree with the person who said that they need to get off Island cuz this is bullshit. Even i barely knew about both Thrices and Thursday's release till the release date was near.

You can quote me on this.
Thrice and Thursda will not put out another album on island....either dropped or shelved...

[xtianheadbanger]

YES!
this is exactly what i have been praying for
a band with this much message and punch making it like this
:-D
good for them i love this CD so much def my fav of all time

[Dan CiTi]

That was a whole lotta idiocy rolled into one...paragraph?



Whaaaaaaaaattttt???? None of that makes sense, sorry.
You're right, that guy didn't pass 7th grade english; But AloneInTheDark isn't totally off.

[lilRIPsta]

You can quote me on this.
Thrice and Thursda will not put out another album on island....either dropped or shelved...


I totally agree with you man. and did u read that article saying that Thursday is broke??? thats just ridiculous. Island sucks

[xXrunninglateXx]

proof that leaking isn't necessarily as bad as some assholes make it out to be.

Well, not exactly the point I was trying to make since I hate assholes that think leaking isn't bad. The "leaking is good/bad" argument will never stop and never be settled but thinking it doesn't hurt is just plain ignorant. I'm just glad it DIDN'T hurt the band's album sales; i'm not saying this proves leaking isn't bad.

[mylastbreath13]

DTGL is a such a great album, its very intense and really showcases Underoath's talent. They definitely deserve this.

By the way, Thrice and Thursday=overrated and Vhessiu (spelling?) is one of the most terrible albums ever.The only reason anyone even pretends to like it is because the cd says "Thrice" on the jacket.It is worse than Nickleback and that is saying something. Sad considering Thrice used to make decent music. Thursday on the other hand has made something like 3 albums and 1 E.P. and has a grand total of about 1 song worth listening to.
I dont understand why anyone would have to take this thread about the success of Underoath and use it to have pity party because their favorite bands that are "way better" aren't selling records. Underoath has accomplished something on Solid State that Thrice and Thursday can't do on a Major lable and sadly never will. The primary reason for this quite simply is that Underoath is a much more talented band.

[TSLManager]

I've said shit about this a thousand times so why not once more, the record that leaked wasnt the finshed album, that may have something to do with why people still bought it?

Or I could be completly wrong too, who knows?



Well, not exactly the point I was trying to make since I hate assholes that think leaking isn't bad. The "leaking is good/bad" argument will never stop and never be settled but thinking it doesn't hurt is just plain ignorant. I'm just glad it DIDN'T hurt the band's album sales; i'm not saying this proves leaking isn't bad.

[ThatGuy]

Daaaaamn


que the music

"mooooving on up............to the big time" repeat x5

to the east side. if you dont know your references, dont reference them

[theredline]

to the east side. if you dont know your references, dont reference them

I could be wrong but I think he said it wrong on purpose...good god.

[shes.a.ghost]

I dont understand how all these kids are confused that UO sold more than Thursday and Thrice. Its pretty damn obvious... UO last CD was huge. It gained them so many fans. Most of the fans they have is because of that album, and most of the kids who have that album, burned it from their friends. That is why that album hasnt gone Gold, which i'm sure it would have by now if all the kids who own it actually purchased it. UO also has the christian scene so that gives them more sales as well. Thursday and Thrice are both great bands, But UO is just a more appealing band to people. Simple as that.

[boldt_action]

Define The Great Line is simply a masterpiece and UO deserve the sales. End of story.

[lilRIPsta]

DTGL is a such a great album, its very intense and really showcases Underoath's talent. They definitely deserve this.

By the way, Thrice and Thursday=overrated and Vhessiu (spelling?) is one of the most terrible albums ever.The only reason anyone even pretends to like it is because the cd says "Thrice" on the jacket.It is worse than Nickleback and that is saying something. Sad considering Thrice used to make decent music. Thursday on the other hand has made something like 3 albums and 1 E.P. and has a grand total of about 1 song worth listening to.
I dont understand why anyone would have to take this thread about the success of Underoath and use it to have pity party because their favorite bands that are "way better" aren't selling records. Underoath has accomplished something on Solid State that Thrice and Thursday can't do on a Major lable and sadly never will. The primary reason for this quite simply is that Underoath is a much more talented band.


u are an idiot

[mylastbreath13]

u are an idiot

Wow sounds like someone learned a new retort on the playground today. My argument is futile in light of the sharp logic and intellectual fire of your brilliant reply. Is it your girl jeans that make it impossible for you to actually refute my comment or is it the eyeliner that caused the brain damage.

[xXrunninglateXx]

I've said shit about this a thousand times so why not once more, the record that leaked wasnt the finshed album, that may have something to do with why people still bought it?

Or I could be completly wrong too, who knows?

No, you are right. The version that leaked was different and I totally understand that but the fact is, it leaked. You would expect that to have hurt them at least a small portion but it seems it did not. I'm happy it didn't and I hope people realize that album leaks do hurt a large portion of bands.

[Shatter_Glass]

Congrats Saw these cats today (again). So rad.

[JohnnyG]

wow congrats to them!

[TheBaroness]

DTGL is a such a great album, its very intense and really showcases Underoath's talent. They definitely deserve this.

By the way, Thrice and Thursday=overrated and Vhessiu (spelling?) is one of the most terrible albums ever.The only reason anyone even pretends to like it is because the cd says "Thrice" on the jacket.It is worse than Nickleback and that is saying something. Sad considering Thrice used to make decent music. Thursday on the other hand has made something like 3 albums and 1 E.P. and has a grand total of about 1 song worth listening to.
I dont understand why anyone would have to take this thread about the success of Underoath and use it to have pity party because their favorite bands that are "way better" aren't selling records. Underoath has accomplished something on Solid State that Thrice and Thursday can't do on a Major lable and sadly never will. The primary reason for this quite simply is that Underoath is a much more talented band.

I don't understand people who say that Vhiessu is bad compared to Thrice's other material. Fine if you don't like it, or it doesn't suit your tastes, but to say it's worse than Thrice's earlier material?? Thrice's early stuff was pedestrial at best. Vheissu is an excellent, well-rounded album.

Holy crap, that's awesome for Underoath! Such a good album, they deserve all their success.

[grnweenieag]

How are they bigger and better than thursday, Well Because Thrice thought by writing shitty music they could capture a bigger audience and finnaly get paid for all their hard work. Jack offs and The same with thursday Underoath while they still are a copy cat band At least they didnt go in the direction of thrice or evan thursday, Thursday biggest disapointment of the year and Underoath the best surprise album of the year Did not think it would be this good, But Best album of the year Def goes to TROPHY SCARS
1.trophy scars
2.Head automatica
3.Underoath

so far still waiting on that brand new
I know this has already been said but God learn how to write and use proper grammar before you start to bash people. You look like a complete idiot. Take some time to look over what you write.

[Get Fucked]

I had to buy this ..
1. The songs not being in the proper order ruined the flow of the album on the leaked copy which is why I couldn't enjoy it as a whole until the retail. With the right order the flow of the CD is great.

2. Listening to the leaked copy and then the retail of TOCS was so depressing, it didn't have that extra punch because it wasn't mastered or mixed.

I'm stoned and I enjoyed that little ramble, goodnight.

[boekebong]

I'll be just one more to say that this album is incredible and they deserve every copy that they've sold.

[weworemasks]

DTGL is a such a great album, its very intense and really showcases Underoath's talent. They definitely deserve this.

By the way, Thrice and Thursday=overrated and Vhessiu (spelling?) is one of the most terrible albums ever.The only reason anyone even pretends to like it is because the cd says "Thrice" on the jacket.It is worse than Nickleback and that is saying something. Sad considering Thrice used to make decent music. Thursday on the other hand has made something like 3 albums and 1 E.P. and has a grand total of about 1 song worth listening to.
I dont understand why anyone would have to take this thread about the success of Underoath and use it to have pity party because their favorite bands that are "way better" aren't selling records. Underoath has accomplished something on Solid State that Thrice and Thursday can't do on a Major lable and sadly never will. The primary reason for this quite simply is that Underoath is a much more talented band.

thrice's vheissu was an incredibly powerful record. it was an uplifting experience and a really intense journey, put through 11 songs. i know i am not the only one. read tates review for christs sake.

just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it sucks.

dm sure living in port lavaca has lowered your iq and caused some heavy retardation, so don't feel bad.

I've said shit about this a thousand times so why not once more, the record that leaked wasnt the finshed album, that may have something to do with why people still bought it?

Or I could be completly wrong too, who knows?

dude, technically, it wasnt finished, and there were alot of parts missing. but besides mixing, mastering, and the order of the record, the songs were basically the same, just rough cuts of them. there is no chance in hell that someone who didn't like the leak, ended up liking the retail. and likewise, if you liked the leak, you probably loved the retail.

[TommyGunn]

[quote=shes.a.ghost] UO also has the christian scene so that gives them more sales as well. quote]


Thrice is a Christian band too, so I'm not sure if this argument holds alot of weight.

[alexxxisonfire]

Thrice is a Christian band?

could've fooled me.

they have religious overtones to their lyrics, but i wouldn't call them a Christian band.

on the flip side of that, underOATH is deeply Christian (that's the whole basis of their music and their message), for which i completely respect them.

[McSavah]

yes!

[Chemical Love]

Congrats Underoath.

[Lovewaslove]

I dont understand how all these kids are confused that UO sold more than Thursday and Thrice. Its pretty damn obvious... UO last CD was huge. It gained them so many fans. Most of the fans they have is because of that album, and most of the kids who have that album, burned it from their friends. That is why that album hasnt gone Gold, which i'm sure it would have by now if all the kids who own it actually purchased it. UO also has the christian scene so that gives them more sales as well. Thursday and Thrice are both great bands, But UO is just a more appealing band to people. Simple as that.

The reason for the success isnt that they are more talented like somebody said, but its just they are in the right place at the right time. They can not compare with thursday, because they are simply a copy cat band and thursday is original, The only band to have more talent than thursday is Glassjaw. But I do agree that Thursday last cd was horrible. All these kids in here that post and dont know Thursday is better than UO, its because of you this is a dying scene, All you young fucking kids with your MCR tshirts. Ask your self this question which album is better Three cheers for sweet revenge or "that other one" if you picked 3 cheers Kill your self and get your own scene. We gae you new found glory and yellowcard now go have fun..And cutt your fucking hair beause its getting old. Real old. And pardon my GRAMMER but this is just a post not a fucking novel see eat a dick.

[obeng]

Define The Great Line is simply a masterpiece and UO deserve the sales. End of story.


mmmmmmmmhmmmmmmm.

[Lovewaslove]

yeah, you are in fact an idiot

do you realize how sick Vheissu is? how can anyone call that album shitty? it's just different and too musical for people to understand, and people like you are used to listening to shit copycat bands

and Trophy Scars isn't that good either

Trophy scars is best album of the year, Im probably older thank you and have been in this scene longer. Thrice is a copy cat band, and unfortunetly for VHEISSU they decided to copy nickleback Someone should tell the singer of thrice Dustin or whatever his gay name is That he needs to shut the fuck up and let the music be the song, why does he have to sing so much that wasnt thrice that isnt thrice VHEISSU is the worst album ever, Artist in the ambulance was a hirrble album as well. FUCK THRICE they are sell outs

[ACA]

It's simple, thrice and thursday are on the wrong damn label. They are getting shit on when it comes to their label support. I've never seen a shittier promotion for a stellar album then what happened with Vhessiu. It was like oh hey its a week til the release "go buy vhessiu". Where with DTGL Solid State promoted the shit out of that record, if you didn't hear about that record then most likely you were either living under a rock or you didn't wanna buy the cd anyway. I haven't seen a record promtoted so perfectly ever, thus 100,000 in sales. Plus it didn't hurt that DTGL was a very solid and amazing record on its own either.

You, sir, are wise. And well spoken. Rare to find on this forum.

Thursday and Thrice both wrote amazing albums. A lot of us need to step back see that we are music freaks. By posting daily on a site like AP.net, we're really obsessed (especially with this style). Not a band slips us by.

But I have friends who really like(d) Thursday and Thrice and didn't know they had new albums out, well after their release.

Island Records is good for pop/rock style acts (Killers, FOB, etc) but I think you are right--it's the wrong fit for Thursday or Thrice to sell hundreds of thousands of copies. This is zero knock on Underoath, who I think are a good band and definitely wrote ANOTHER good album, but Thursday and Thrice are lightyears ahead.

-ACA

[ACA]

Moreover,

Anyone who can honestly think that Thursday or Thrice *suck* are idiots. Perhaps you don't enjoy that style of music. Personally, I can't stand southern-rock or (completely unrelated) slowed, spacey-rock with extremy feedback. I don't say bands that write stuff like that suck..it's just not my style. Thursday is a pioneer in the this 'scene', and to say otherwise is obnoxious. Thrice is another great band.

Vheissu and A City By The Light Divided are also great albums. Both bands ventured into something new--and that by itself doesn't mean we should praise it. But luckily, the light at the end of the tunnel was very bright and these albums came out great.

Earth Will Shake is an amazing song. Red Sky does some great things, especially with the change in key at the end. Autumn Leaves Revisited is very, very powerful. The Lovesong Writer is brilliant.

Perhaps Thursday or Thrice's music (or latest albums) don't appeal to you--which is why there are 100s of different styles of music out there for you to pick from. But please, refrain from "thursday is a piece of shit".

-ACA

[TBSowns524]

Moreover,

Anyone who can honestly think that Thursday or Thrice *suck* are idiots. Perhaps you don't enjoy that style of music. Personally, I can't stand southern-rock or (completely unrelated) slowed, spacey-rock with extremy feedback. I don't say bands that write stuff like that suck..it's just not my style. Thursday is a pioneer in the this 'scene', and to say otherwise is obnoxious. Thrice is another great band.

Vheissu and A City By The Light Divided are also great albums. Both bands ventured into something new--and that by itself doesn't mean we should praise it. But luckily, the light at the end of the tunnel was very bright and these albums came out great.

Earth Will Shake is an amazing song. Red Sky does some great things, especially with the change in key at the end. Autumn Leaves Revisited is very, very powerful. The Lovesong Writer is brilliant.

Perhaps Thursday or Thrice's music (or latest albums) don't appeal to you--which is why there are 100s of different styles of music out there for you to pick from. But please, refrain from "thursday is a piece of shit".

-ACA


amen

[joshluke2003]

congrats to UNDEROATH....since this post was about them.

[mylastbreath13]

thrice's vheissu was an incredibly powerful record. it was an uplifting experience and a really intense journey, put through 11 songs. i know i am not the only one. read tates review for christs sake.

just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it sucks.

dm sure living in port lavaca has lowered your iq and caused some heavy retardation, so don't feel bad.
Yes “dm” definitely sure I’m the retarded one who has had my IQ lowered by living in Port Lavaca, not the guy living in the smog capitol of the nation who has a hard time typing a coherent comment.

I can’t believe the attitude of people on this thread. It’s supposed to be for congratulating Underoath, but instead everyone who has a hard on for Thrice and Thursday comes on here and throws a big tantrum because their band isn’t as successful. The musical elite-ism on this thread is sickening and childish. I’ve seen a number of threads where people basically say that Underoath is just vapid crap music for the masses, whereas Thrice and Thursday are just so musically holy that anyone who doesn’t like them is just too dumb to truly “understand”. It couldn’t possibly be that UO knows how to make actual music instead of a strange cacophony of horrible noises in a vain attempt to be “artistic”.

Here’s the real point of all this, there are a lot of bands that I love and wish were getting more attention. Novice is an example of this, I think they put out perhaps the best album to come out this year but I don’t feel the urge to go onto a thread congratulating the success of band A and bitch that “my” band isn’t getting noticed because they are “so much better”. I would never do something like this on a thread congratulating Thrice so don’t do it on one for Underoath. They deserve every bit of their success and more.

[TSLManager]

I disagre, I think if the finshed record leaked it would have hurt the band. Although the fact that the unfinshed record leaked may have helped the band. We'll never know but it certainly did get people excited and wanting to hear the finshed record. The fact that the leaked files were everywhere also made it hard for people to find the finshed record online which also helped.



No, you are right. The version that leaked was different and I totally understand that but the fact is, it leaked. You would expect that to have hurt them at least a small portion but it seems it did not. I'm happy it didn't and I hope people realize that album leaks do hurt a large portion of bands.

[TSLManager]

I agree 100% but if it was the finshed record leaked less people would have bought it.

The unfinshed leaked files probobly made people want to buy the record even more or at least made them want to find the finshed files.


dude, technically, it wasnt finished, and there were alot of parts missing. but besides mixing, mastering, and the order of the record, the songs were basically the same, just rough cuts of them. there is no chance in hell that someone who didn't like the leak, ended up liking the retail. and likewise, if you liked the leak, you probably loved the retail.[/QUOTE]

[fullerm]

god damn, is it STILL cool to like jesus!?!






what a whack ass band:rollseyes

[last light]

Trophy scars is best album of the year, Im probably older thank you and have been in this scene longer. Thrice is a copy cat band, and unfortunetly for VHEISSU they decided to copy nickleback Someone should tell the singer of thrice Dustin or whatever his gay name is That he needs to shut the fuck up and let the music be the song, why does he have to sing so much that wasnt thrice that isnt thrice VHEISSU is the worst album ever, Artist in the ambulance was a hirrble album as well. FUCK THRICE they are sell outs

if this is serious, you are by far the most ignorant person i have ever seen on these boards.

[Scott Weber]

dude, technically, it wasnt finished, and there were alot of parts missing. but besides mixing, mastering, and the order of the record, the songs were basically the same, just rough cuts of them. there is no chance in hell that someone who didn't like the leak, ended up liking the retail. and likewise, if you liked the leak, you probably loved the retail.
I heard the leak once and was totally let down. I was convinced I was going to hate the record. The flow of songs were terrible, they lacked the punch of a good mix, and everything seemed so...bland on that sound that I was a little convinced I'd dislike it. Fortunately, I never judge a band until I hear the final copy and good thing, because to me, it sounds like an entirely different album and I love it. I know TONS of people who are the same way, so I can't say I agree with that statement.

[Scott Weber]

Thrice is a Christian band?

could've fooled me.

they have religious overtones to their lyrics, but i wouldn't call them a Christian band.

on the flip side of that, underOATH is deeply Christian (that's the whole basis of their music and their message), for which i completely respect them.
Vheissu is just as, if not more spiritual and "Christian" than Define the Great Line is. It has direct lines from scripture in it... Dustin and Teppei are Christians but Thrice has never been marketed as a Christian band, so they don't automatically get those sales, where as there are the "youth group" crowd that WILL automatically buy anything on Tooth & Nail/Solid State.

[MotionIsntMeaning]

I disagre, I think if the finshed record leaked it would have hurt the band. Although the fact that the unfinshed record leaked may have helped the band. We'll never know but it certainly did get people excited and wanting to hear the finshed record. The fact that the leaked files were everywhere also made it hard for people to find the finshed record online which also helped.

I agree with you. Personally, I would have bought the album whether the full version leaked or not because I love Underoath and want to support them. But, I have to admit that I've downloaded some other band's albums that have leaked (full versions) and didnt bother to buy it when it did come out. Leaking full versions definitely hurts bands, but in this case the incomplete verion leak may have actually helped the band.

[ACA]

1) The real version did leak early. Not very early, but it did.
2) The unmastered leak from months ago sounded like ass. I said "fuck this" and never listened to it again.
3) The real album is fucking good.

-ACA

[Beloved Broken]

Trophy scars is best album of the year, Im probably older thank you and have been in this scene longer. Thrice is a copy cat band, and unfortunetly for VHEISSU they decided to copy nickleback Someone should tell the singer of thrice Dustin or whatever his gay name is That he needs to shut the fuck up and let the music be the song, why does he have to sing so much that wasnt thrice that isnt thrice VHEISSU is the worst album ever, Artist in the ambulance was a hirrble album as well. FUCK THRICE they are sell outs
Thrice is a copycat...wow.
Thrice tried to copy Nickelback...wow.
Why does the vocal need to sing so much...wow.
Thrice are sellouts...wowowowowowowowow.
Dude, you're beyond my describing terms. I feel sorry for my poor vocabulary.
P.S. Vheissu >>> Define The Great Line.

[Scott Weber]

1) The real version did leak early. Not very early, but it did.
2) The unmastered leak from months ago sounded like ass. I said "fuck this" and never listened to it again.
3) The real album is fucking good.

-ACA
Yeah, but only like 4 or 5 days early, which is NOTHING in terms of a big release like this.

[weworemasks]

UO also has the christian scene so that gives them more sales as well. quote]


Thrice is a Christian band too, so I'm not sure if this argument holds alot of weight.

meh, vheissu is their only record that could be considered "christian." but i guess so.

Trophy scars is best album of the year, Im probably older thank you and have been in this scene longer. Thrice is a copy cat band, and unfortunetly for VHEISSU they decided to copy nickleback Someone should tell the singer of thrice Dustin or whatever his gay name is That he needs to shut the fuck up and let the music be the song, why does he have to sing so much that wasnt thrice that isnt thrice VHEISSU is the worst album ever, Artist in the ambulance was a hirrble album as well. FUCK THRICE they are sell outs

damn dude, congratulations on being in the scene longer than than everyone. remember to tell your dean at your college graduation, that "hey man, i've been in the scene longer," when you don't graduate cum laude. tool.

Yes “dm” definitely sure I’m the retarded one who has had my IQ lowered by living in Port Lavaca, not the guy living in the smog capitol of the nation who has a hard time typing a coherent comment.


there was nothing really incoherent about my comment besides my "dm." apparently typos make you retarded. you got me.

I heard the leak once and was totally let down. I was convinced I was going to hate the record. The flow of songs were terrible, they lacked the punch of a good mix, and everything seemed so...bland on that sound that I was a little convinced I'd dislike it. Fortunately, I never judge a band until I hear the final copy and good thing, because to me, it sounds like an entirely different album and I love it. I know TONS of people who are the same way, so I can't say I agree with that statement.

dammit. go figure. the flow of the songs was really fucking stupid, i agree. especially tracks 5-7. i thought it was a joke.

[lilRIPsta]

Wow sounds like someone learned a new retort on the playground today. My argument is futile in light of the sharp logic and intellectual fire of your brilliant reply. Is it your girl jeans that make it impossible for you to actually refute my comment or is it the eyeliner that caused the brain damage.

as i said before, you are an idiot. And ur response to how i dress?? hilarious. You think that everyone onthis site is a poseur scene kid. I'm a college athlete, who has a hot gf and i dress normal. I have polo's. there is not one pair of girl jeans in my closet you ***. but why am i trying to defend myself to a girl that likes Hawthorne Heights?

[Scott Weber]

meh, vheissu is their only record that could be considered "christian." but i guess so.


Artist in the Ambulence has more than a few allusions to Christianity in it as well.

[weworemasks]

Artist in the Ambulence has more than a few allusions to Christianity in it as well.
yes, im aware, but not nearly as a heavy influence as vheissu. im just saying. why are you nitpicking?

[Scott Weber]

yes, im aware, but not nearly as a heavy influence as vheissu. im just saying. why are you nitpicking?
I don't know, maybe because every single post you make is along the lines of:

"You're a fucking idiot, I'm so fucking pissed off, I hate the world, I hate you, and you're wrong."

[weworemasks]

I don't know, maybe because every single post you make is along the lines of:

"You're a fucking idiot, I'm so fucking pissed off, I hate the world, I hate you, and you're wrong."
hahaha i wasn't that mean in this thread. besides to the port lavaca dude.

edit: i don't hate the world.

[mogwaifearsatan]

I'm just glad that an album that was actually really fucking good and not just really poppy and accesible sold so much, it sort of renews my faith in people.

EDIT: And I agree with Thrice and Thursday being on the wrong label.

[AloneInTheDark]

You're crazy.


Uh...I'm Scott Weber. I work here.

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Hah..I know I'm crazy. I'm trying to say what's coming to my head, and it's not making any sense. Maybe it's just that I get the same feelings when listening to both bands, if that makes any sense. Let's agree to disagree..and...forget my comment about you. Hah.

[mylastbreath13]

there was nothing really incoherent about my comment besides my "dm." apparently typos make you retarded. you got me.

Of course typos don't make you retarded...unless you make one in a post where you attempt to insult someone else's intelligence.

[mylastbreath13]

as i said before, you are an idiot. And ur response to how i dress?? hilarious. You think that everyone onthis site is a poseur scene kid. I'm a college athlete, who has a hot gf and i dress normal. I have polo's. there is not one pair of girl jeans in my closet you ***. but why am i trying to defend myself to a girl that likes Hawthorne Heights?
Awesome there's another witty response from the RIPsta again. This one ranks up there with "I know you are but what am I". I find it hilarious that you had to tell pretty much your entire life story to defend yourself to someone you think is a teenage girl (21 y/o college guy actually). The part where you anxiously assure me that you have a "hot g.f." and don’t have one pair of girl jeans in your closet "you ***" is especially priceless. Sound a lil' insecure there to me buddy, maybe you should talk to your "hot g.f." about that. I guess I just assumed you were a scene poser kid based on the attitude you have shown on this thread and because I figured even if you weren’t, your reaction would still be priceless. It definitely worked

[lilRIPsta]

Awesome there's another witty response from the RIPsta again. This one ranks up there with "I know you are but what am I". I find it hilarious that you had to tell pretty much your entire life story to defend yourself to someone you think is a teenage girl (21 y/o college guy actually). The part where you anxiously assure me that you have a "hot g.f." and don’t have one pair of girl jeans in your closet "you ***" is especially priceless. Sound a lil' insecure there to me buddy, maybe you should talk to your "hot g.f." about that. I guess I just assumed you were a scene poser kid based on the attitude you have shown on this thread and because I figured even if you weren’t, your reaction would still be priceless. It definitely worked


your argument would have meant something if you didnt write a 10 page article analyzing my post and then defending YOURself. goodjob....and your meat is small

[mylastbreath13]

your argument would have meant something if you didnt write a 10 page article analyzing my post and then defending YOURself. goodjob....and your meat is small

hahaha. Seriously what are you talking about? Do you even know anymore?This is very entertaining. I am really enjoying the random insults, you must be very frustrated if this is the best you can come up with.Are you sure you were telling the truth about the whole college thing? Look lil'buddy would it make you feel any better if I just told you how sorry I am that Vhiesu didn't go platinum despite the fact that Thrice is on a major label? How about if I said how much I feel your pain for having to bear the indignity of watching such a crew of amateurs(UO) do so well while the "true artists" are ignored by the foolish masses who just don't understand. Get over it.Maybe I should speak in terms you can understand. Here you go. YOUR an idiot and YOUR meat is small. Looking forward to another brilliant reply as usual.:)