Pedro vs. Beckett.....welcome home party

[NetNerdsRevenge]

I wont be able to watch the whole game, but this deserves its own thread. Great pitching match-up and it'll be interesting to see the crowd reaction. I'll never forget his 6 innings of pure genius in Cleveland.

anyway, have fun with this thread. I hope he pitches a good game, but I also hope Beckett is one better.

[mikeford]

if he doesn't get a 10 minute standing ovation, i'm going to be pissed. i am going to try very hard to be inside Fenway for this game and I swear if anyone around me boo's him, I will spit in their face.

Judging by tonights reception, however, they probably will not boo him. which is good. The Mets are not the Yankees.

[xbrokendownx]

this will be the first (and probably only) time i will ever be rooting for pedro martinez

[Broken Parachute]

Pedro got a nice standing ovation tonight by just sitting in the dugout. I'm sure he'll get a huge one tomorrow night.

Pedro vs. Beckett should be great..

How about Glavine vs. Schilling. I think that matchup is gonna be even better.

[xearlynovemberx]

Pedro got a nice standing ovation tonight by just sitting in the dugout. I'm sure he'll get a huge one tomorrow night.

Pedro vs. Beckett should be great..

How about Glavine vs. Schilling. I think that matchup is gonna be even better.

glavine and schilling might be the pitching matchup of the year

[mikeford]

ehh, wait for pedro v. clemens

[Broken Parachute]

ehh, wait for pedro v. clemens
You mean where Pedro and Clemens get absolutely no run support and the game ends 6AM the next morning after 30 straight innings of no run ball?

[mikeford]

yep.

but you forgot to add lastings milledge running into a flag pole in centerfield and jose reyes breaking his neck trying to do the ozzie smith backflip

[Broken Parachute]

yep.

but you forgot to add lastings milledge running into a flag pole in centerfield and jose reyes breaking his neck trying to do the ozzie smith backflip
I can picture it in my head now and I'm laughing. Milledge is sprawled out on the hill with a huge welt on his head.

[LeftWideOpen]

i absolutely can't wait for this. only 9 more hours.

this is one of those games that you must pregame. pedro's back on the mound and the sox are on fire ...this is the best day of the season, so far.

[Fallinlove]

Pedro the Lion vs. New David Bazan...

[ColourandShape]

Pedro will dominate the Sox....he always gets up for huge games and this may be the biggest regular season game of the year...but for baseball fans, Glavine vs. Schilling will be a much better matchup

[LeftWideOpen]

Pedro will dominate the Sox....he always gets up for huge games and this may be the biggest regular season game of the year...but for baseball fans, Glavine vs. Schilling will be a much better matchup

even if i wanted to pretend you were right and that the sox should be written off tonight because "pedro gets up for big games", you'd still be an ass because the guy going for the sox pitched a complete game on the road in yankee stadium to win the world series for the florida marlins. if thats not "getting up for a huge game", i dont know what the fuck is.

[TheDeekay]

I've been looking forward to this game for awhile now. I'm hoping Beckett gets the win.

[xbrokendownx]

i rarely ever watch other teams games in their entirety, but if it wasnt for the draft tonight i prob wouldve watched this

[Goodbye Forever]

Pedro will dominate the Sox....he always gets up for huge games and this may be the biggest regular season game of the year...but for baseball fans, Glavine vs. Schilling will be a much better matchup

This isn't a big game at all.

Edit: To clarify, sure, it is exciting and should be a lot of fun, but in the end this isn't a game that is going to have a huge effect on either team in the long run.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

not a big game for the entire season, but I would imagine coming back to the place where you created a lot of memories and really cemented your legacy in the game of baseball is enough to get up for.

There is enough hype around this in the Boston and NY media, as well as national, that it has turned into a big game.

[Goodbye Forever]

Yeah, in terms of hype it's a "big game", but all the interleague stuff is so frivolous that it really doesn't have that much actual importance to the teams. I'm sure it matters a lot to him, but you never know when Pedro is going to decide to show up to play.

[ColourandShape]

even if i wanted to pretend you were right and that the sox should be written off tonight because "pedro gets up for big games", you'd still be an ass because the guy going for the sox pitched a complete game on the road in yankee stadium to win the world series for the florida marlins. if thats not "getting up for a huge game", i dont know what the fuck is.


You sox fans are all the same, you think your deserved a championship every year and can't stop complaining because the yankess have and will always have more respect and media coverage from the rest of the league. Get over it. I'm not even a yankess fan, but you sox fans make me sick. get over yourself. your just as bad as yankees fan.

Beckett was also shelled at Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago pal. Same stadium, shittier yankees team. Congrats. Pedro is just flat out better and more dominate than Beckett, face it. The numbers don't lie. So stop embarassing yourself.

Yes, this isn't a meaningful game at all, I agree. Its regualr season, interleague play. No big deal. But Pedro returning to Fenway for the first time since the World Series? You don't think his teamates are gonna want to kick some ass for him? Every player is going to be fired up like hell. So its a big game.

One last thing.......1986

[xbrokendownx]

You sox fans are all the same, you think your deserved a championship every year and can't stop complaining because the yankess have and will always have more respect and media coverage from the rest of the league. Get over it. I'm not even a yankess fan, but you sox fans make me sick. get over yourself. your just as bad as yankees fan.

Beckett was also shelled at Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago pal. Same stadium, shittier yankees team. Congrats. Pedro is just flat out better and more dominate than Beckett, face it. The numbers don't lie. So stop embarassing yourself.

Yes, this isn't a meaningful game at all, I agree. Its regualr season, interleague play. No big deal. But Pedro returning to Fenway for the first time since the World Series? You don't think his teamates are gonna want to kick some ass for him? Every player is going to be fired up like hell. So its a big game.

One last thing.......1986






posting this was NOT a very good idea


prepare to be ambushed

[ColourandShape]

posting this was NOT a very good idea


prepare to be ambushed


Bring it.

[ColourandShape]

This isn't a big game at all.

Edit: To clarify, sure, it is exciting and should be a lot of fun, but in the end this isn't a game that is going to have a huge effect on either team in the long run.


Thats what I meant.....where are you from in Jersey?

[NetNerdsRevenge]

You sox fans are all the same, you think your deserved a championship every year and can't stop complaining because the yankess have and will always have more respect and media coverage from the rest of the league. Get over it. I'm not even a yankess fan, but you sox fans make me sick. get over yourself. your just as bad as yankees fan.

Beckett was also shelled at Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago pal. Same stadium, shittier yankees team. Congrats. Pedro is just flat out better and more dominate than Beckett, face it. The numbers don't lie. So stop embarassing yourself.

Yes, this isn't a meaningful game at all, I agree. Its regualr season, interleague play. No big deal. But Pedro returning to Fenway for the first time since the World Series? You don't think his teamates are gonna want to kick some ass for him? Every player is going to be fired up like hell. So its a big game.

One last thing.......1986
I dont see where your first paragraph came from. Besides, wouldn't any fan want a championship every year? I thought that was kinda the point.....

Beckett also pitched a gem in Ny, against a very tough yankee line-up on may 9th. Whats your point? Those games are not on the same level as a world series game so its really not relevant. If he constantly got shelled when pitching against the yankees, you may have a point. He has not and thus, you have no point.

No doubt Pedro is better than Beckett, but Beckett also has an ERA under 3 at fenway. In Beckett's 3 starts vs. NL teams this year he has allowed 7 ER's and 17K's. Dont give this game away just yet.

1986? dude, stop living in the past, that's over.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Bring it.
bring it? haha dude, youre way too cocky for what you bring.

I didn't know AJ Pierzynski had an account here.

[Goodbye Forever]

Thats what I meant.....where are you from in Jersey?

Morris County/Monmouth County.

[ColourandShape]

I dont see where your first paragraph came from. Besides, wouldn't any fan want a championship every year? I thought that was kinda the point.....

Beckett also pitched a gem in Ny, against a very tough yankee line-up on may 9th. Whats your point? Those games are not on the same level as a world series game so its really not relevant. If he constantly got shelled when pitching against the yankees, you may have a point. He has not and thus, you have no point.

No doubt Pedro is better than Beckett, but Beckett also has an ERA under 3 at fenway. In Beckett's 3 starts vs. NL teams this year he has allowed 7 ER's and 17K's. Dont give this game away just yet.

1986? dude, stop living in the past, that's over.



I got carried away with my first paragraph, sorry. I have a friend who is a Red Sox fan and he just annoys the shit out of me, mostly complaining about coverage and respect in regards to the Yankees. So thats where that came from.

My point is, every game the sox play againt the Yanks is a big game. Not a world series game, of course. He did pitch great in the World Series, but on the Marlins and he was a lot younger than. A young pitcher pitching against an enitrely different league will do well right away, based on the face that the hitters have never seen him before and don't his stuff. A scouting report will only go so far. He has had some trouble in big games against the Yanks, and he did as well with the Marlins after the world series. But my point is he can't hold a candle to Pedor Martinez in terms of big game consistency. Come on dude, lets be real here. Who are you going to take in an emotionally charged game liek tonight, Pedro or Beckett? Just honestly answer that.

And 1986 is all I got man, until they win again thats my year. 2000 was close....

[ColourandShape]

Morris County/Monmouth County.


I'm from Morristown

[ColourandShape]

bring it? haha dude, youre way too cocky for what you bring.

I didn't know AJ Pierzynski had an account here.

he doesnt

[Goodbye Forever]

I'm from Morristown

Haha, represent. I'm from Mt. Olive.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=145936

[NetNerdsRevenge]

My point is, every game the sox play againt the Yanks is a big game. Not a world series game, of course. He did pitch great in the World Series, but on the Marlins and he was a lot younger than. A young pitcher pitching against an enitrely different league will do well right away, based on the face that the hitters have never seen him before and don't his stuff. A scouting report will only go so far. He has had some trouble in big games against the Yanks, and he did as well with the Marlins after the world series. But my point is he can't hold a candle to Pedor Martinez in terms of big game consistency. Come on dude, lets be real here. Who are you going to take in an emotionally charged game liek tonight, Pedro or Beckett? Just honestly answer that.
No one is going to say they would take Beckett over Pedro in a big game. However, at Becketts age and his career so far, its not going to be an automatic win for pedro. Bekcett is one of the best young pitchers in the game and in a long run, will be a top tier pitchers in the league. And before we start counting amounts of "big games" thrown by each pitcher, Pedro had much more opportunity with the Red Sox and dont forget he had some trouble with the yankees in 04.

[ColourandShape]

No one is going to say they would take Beckett over Pedro in a big game. However, at Becketts age and his career so far, its not going to be an automatic win for pedro. Bekcett is one of the best young pitchers in the game and in a long run, will be a top tier pitchers in the league. And before we start counting amounts of "big games" thrown by each pitcher, Pedro had much more opportunity with the Red Sox and dont forget he had some trouble with the yankees in 04.

i see where your coming from....it should be a great game

[mikeford]

if you think this game is meaningless, you are a r-e-t-a-r-d

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

well said

[LeftWideOpen]

You sox fans are all the same, you think your deserved a championship every year and can't stop complaining because the yankess have and will always have more respect and media coverage from the rest of the league. Get over it. I'm not even a yankess fan, but you sox fans make me sick. get over yourself. your just as bad as yankees fan.

Beckett was also shelled at Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago pal. Same stadium, shittier yankees team. Congrats. Pedro is just flat out better and more dominate than Beckett, face it. The numbers don't lie. So stop embarassing yourself.

Yes, this isn't a meaningful game at all, I agree. Its regualr season, interleague play. No big deal. But Pedro returning to Fenway for the first time since the World Series? You don't think his teamates are gonna want to kick some ass for him? Every player is going to be fired up like hell. So its a big game.

One last thing.......1986

way to totally go off topic in about every possible way one possibly could.

lets get back to your initial point ..you said the game was over before it started because pedro is on the mound and he's a big game pitcher. i pointed out to you that josh beckett has done it himself, on an even bigger stage than pedro ever did it (although i love pedro for all he's ever done with the sox ..what beckett did against the yankees was one thing pedro didnt do).

moral of the story: the game isnt over before it started because pedro is a "big-game pitcher". beckett has been there and done that, too. as for the rest of the bullshit you spewed that was completely off topic, i'll avoid responding to because it would take too much time and energy to respond to everything you said.

[ColourandShape]

way to totally go off topic in about every possible way one possibly could.

lets get back to your initial point ..you said the game was over before it started because pedro is on the mound and he's a big game pitcher. i pointed out to you that josh beckett has done it himself, on an even bigger stage than pedro ever did it (although i love pedro for all he's ever done with the sox ..what beckett did against the yankees was one thing pedro didnt do).

moral of the story: the game isnt over before it started because pedro is a "big-game pitcher". beckett has been there and done that, too. as for the rest of the bullshit you spewed that was completely off topic, i'll avoid responding to because it would take too much time and energy to respond to everything you said.


Way to totally ignore all the other posts we made earlier, we cleared all that up... why don't you read responses instead of responding to the first thing someone said....pay attention next time and you wouldn't look like such an ass. Of course Beckett would do great against at NL team that had only seen hime once before, compared to a Pedro pitching agaisnt the Yanks for the 900th time. You put Pedro Martinez against a Yanks team that has never, ever seen him before (like Becckett in that game your mentioning) and I dare you to say he wouldn't do just as good if not better. If you don't, your a fucking idiot. g'night

[Brownpants06]

I need to get satelite, I can't stand not being able to watch these good games on espn/2

[hockey0001]

You sox fans are all the same, you think your deserved a championship every year and can't stop complaining because the yankess have and will always have more respect and media coverage from the rest of the league. Get over it. I'm not even a yankess fan, but you sox fans make me sick. get over yourself. your just as bad as yankees fan.

wow, this had nothing to do with anything being discussed


Beckett was also shelled at Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago pal. Same stadium, shittier yankees team. Congrats. Pedro is just flat out better and more dominate than Beckett, face it. The numbers don't lie. So stop embarassing yourself.

no one has said or even implied that Beckett is a better pitcher than Pedro, the only things compared was that they have each been successful in big games


Yes, this isn't a meaningful game at all, I agree. Its regualr season, interleague play. No big deal. But Pedro returning to Fenway for the first time since the World Series? You don't think his teamates are gonna want to kick some ass for him? Every player is going to be fired up like hell. So its a big game.

i agree with this, it is a big game in an emotional since


One last thing.......1986

what are you trying to accomplish here?

[hockey0001]

I got carried away with my first paragraph, sorry. I have a friend who is a Red Sox fan and he just annoys the shit out of me, mostly complaining about coverage and respect in regards to the Yankees. So thats where that came from.

My point is, every game the sox play againt the Yanks is a big game. Not a world series game, of course. He did pitch great in the World Series, but on the Marlins and he was a lot younger than. A young pitcher pitching against an enitrely different league will do well right away, based on the face that the hitters have never seen him before and don't his stuff. A scouting report will only go so far. He has had some trouble in big games against the Yanks, and he did as well with the Marlins after the world series. But my point is he can't hold a candle to Pedor Martinez in terms of big game consistency. Come on dude, lets be real here. Who are you going to take in an emotionally charged game liek tonight, Pedro or Beckett? Just honestly answer that.

And 1986 is all I got man, until they win again thats my year. 2000 was close....

Wasnt it the Yankees third time facing him in the series? If you face the same pitcher 3 times in a matter of 7 games, you have a pretty good idea of what they throw.

[LeftWideOpen]

Way to totally ignore all the other posts we made earlier, we cleared all that up... why don't you read responses instead of responding to the first thing someone said....pay attention next time and you wouldn't look like such an ass. Of course Beckett would do great against at NL team that had only seen hime once before, compared to a Pedro pitching agaisnt the Yanks for the 900th time. You put Pedro Martinez against a Yanks team that has never, ever seen him before (like Becckett in that game your mentioning) and I dare you to say he wouldn't do just as good if not better. If you don't, your a fucking idiot. g'night

:nono:

are you following me here, at all? You flipped out about how "all Sox fan are the same, blah blah blah, omfg 1986!!" after I only said that Beckett has proved he can pitch in a big game, and you come back with this?

I love Pedro Martinez ..if you did any homework, you'd know that. I never even said anything in this post to take anything away from him ..I only said Beckett was up to the task and he's proven that before. I never said he's better than Pedro (because he isn't) or that Pedro could never do the same (a CG in the deciding game of the WS is tough, but anything is possible). ***all i was saying is beckett is capable of stepping up in a big situation*****

jesus christ.

[crit]

i'm so excited for this game.

[LeftWideOpen]

here we go ....gametime.

i should be able to hear pedro's ovation from my apartment on the other side of town ...thats how loud it should get.

[LeftWideOpen]

this tribute to Pedro by NESN is probably the most awkward thing i've ever seen.

nice soundtrack :-D

[crit]

here we go ....gametime.

i should be able to hear pedro's ovation from my apartment on the other side of town ...thats how loud it should get.

if anyone boos, they should be kicked out of fenway and banned for life.

[crit]

beckett's era in the first inning is probably about 89 or something...let's hope he can start this game off right.

[crit]

first pitch: swing and miss! woo

[crit]

i'm the only one here

[LeftWideOpen]

Beckett is throwingggg gaaasss. 97 mph.

easy 1-2-3 inning

[crit]

3 up, 3 down. nice inning, beckett.

[LeftWideOpen]

here comes pedro .....

[crit]

and here comes the ovation!

[LeftWideOpen]

standing O

theres a couple boo's in there though.

[crit]

"we'll keep it right here...."

....
....

cut to commercial???

[ColourandShape]

:nono:

are you following me here, at all? You flipped out about how "all Sox fan are the same, blah blah blah, omfg 1986!!" after I only said that Beckett has proved he can pitch in a big game, and you come back with this?

I love Pedro Martinez ..if you did any homework, you'd know that. I never even said anything in this post to take anything away from him ..I only said Beckett was up to the task and he's proven that before. I never said he's better than Pedro (because he isn't) or that Pedro could never do the same (a CG in the deciding game of the WS is tough, but anything is possible). ***all i was saying is beckett is capable of stepping up in a big situation*****

jesus christ.


For the last time. I pretty much originally stated that the Mets had a better chance to win, because Pedro is better. You just agreed with me. What is going on here

[ColourandShape]

Do any of you guys read bill simmons?

[crit]

Do any of you guys read bill simmons?

i do. i love him.

[crit]

kevin youkilis is my favorite player.

[LeftWideOpen]

For the last time. I pretty much originally stated that the Mets had a better chance to win, because Pedro is better. You just agreed with me. What is going on here

i took exception to the statement you made when you said that they were going to win because Pedro was a big game pitcher, because Beckett has proven to be, too. that's it really ...then i got mad at the post you made about all sox fans being the same, etc, etc, etc.

but it's cool.

[crit]

another hit! here comes ortizzzzzzzzz

[LeftWideOpen]

quick back to back hits to start it off.

this is why sox fans are awesome ...they were roaring for pedro when he walked to the mound, but the ovation is even louder than usual when we get back to back hits because it's off him.

its like, "we love you! ....but go screw yourself cause we're still going to kick your ass!"

[LeftWideOpen]

ohhh brain fart by pedro.

he's a little too nostalgic right now.

[crit]

wtf pedro? that should have been two outs, easy.

[crit]

bases loaded...lets go trot!!!

[LeftWideOpen]

bases juiced ....

[LeftWideOpen]

1-0

[crit]

1-0!

[crit]

2-0!

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

The Capt!

[LeftWideOpen]

pedro looks real shaky so far. 2-0 now

[crit]

LOLZ lastings milledge with another brilliant play!!! 4-0!

[LeftWideOpen]

hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

good move, lastings!

4-0. yesss

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

thats just milledge being milledge

4-0

[LeftWideOpen]

brother needs to learn how to focus. he was in perfect position and just dropped it.

[crit]

now that ball hit back to pedro really comes into play...he should have had two outs and only got one. if he'd made that play it'd only be 3-0.

[xbrokendownx]

fucking milledge

[hockey0001]

Lastings Milledge is awesome at catching fly balls

[crit]

Lastings Milledge is awesome at catching fly balls
he sealed the gold glove with that play

[crit]

lookin' good beckett, keep it up.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

20 pitches through 2 innings for beckett...i like

[LeftWideOpen]

20 pitches through 2 innings for beckett...i like

it's cause the man steps up in big games ;)

[crit]

20 pitches through 2 innings for beckett...i like

he's on tonight. only 20 pitches, and no hits.

[Broken Parachute]

I missed the first inning, how did Pedro let 4 runs through?

[crit]

I missed the first inning, how did Pedro let 4 runs through?
- K. Youkilis singled to center
- M. Loretta singled to right, K. Youkilis to second
- D. Ortiz grounded out to pitcher, K. Youkilis to third, M. Loretta to second
- M. Ramirez walked
- T. Nixon hit sacrifice fly to deep center, K. Youkilis scored, M. Loretta to third
- J. Varitek singled to center, M. Loretta scored, M. Ramirez to second
- M. Lowell safe at first on left fielder L. Milledge's fielding error, M. Ramirez and J. Varitek scored, M. Lowell to second
- C. Crisp grounded out to second
4 runs, 3 hits, 1 errors

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

LAAASTINGS Milledge messed up

[Broken Parachute]

- K. Youkilis singled to center
- M. Loretta singled to right, K. Youkilis to second
- D. Ortiz grounded out to pitcher, K. Youkilis to third, M. Loretta to second
- M. Ramirez walked
- T. Nixon hit sacrifice fly to deep center, K. Youkilis scored, M. Loretta to third
- J. Varitek singled to center, M. Loretta scored, M. Ramirez to second
- M. Lowell safe at first on left fielder L. Milledge's fielding error, M. Ramirez and J. Varitek scored, M. Lowell to second
- C. Crisp grounded out to second
4 runs, 3 hits, 1 errors
Haha thank you

[hockey0001]

and now Milledge is scared of any ball hit towards him

[crit]

attn: lastings...beltran might have saved you there, but he can't cover all of left field for you. sooner or later, a ball is going to be hit towards you. learn how to catch a ball.

[Broken Parachute]

Yeahhh we got the Remdawg haha

[Broken Parachute]

attn: lastings...beltran might have saved you there, but he can't cover all of left field for you. sooner or later, a ball is going to be hit towards you. learn how to catch a ball.
He's being such a bitch, he's afraid to go for any fly ball. Beltran always bails him out.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

god the remdawg is amazing

[Broken Parachute]

god the remdawg is amazing
Is Ron Darling talking about his own career yet? I don't think he'll have enough time in an inning, but he constantly mentions all the teams he played on.

[LeftWideOpen]

5-0 :)

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

seriously is this the best the NL has to offer?

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

Another A Bomb For A Gon

[Broken Parachute]

Pedro is feeling the pressure. He's pitching so bad.

And how could you guys expect us to beat you easily? The AL is always superior to NL.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

thank you pedro!

[crit]

Another A Bomb For A Gon

he's on fire!

[Broken Parachute]

Good, at least it's not a shutout.

[crit]

the mets offense shows up!

[NetNerdsRevenge]

im glad the sox won (EDIT: I shouldn't say won), but what a dud.

from what ive seen of Beckett, he is filthy. Just stop with the homeruns

Glavine should receive a nice applause as well. I was thinking today (while I was at work) that if I ever wanted to see the red sox get no hit, I would want it to be done by either Pedro and Glavine......which is weird because they're both pitching in this series.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

yawn

[Broken Parachute]

I hope Glavine gets the win. I can't believe we're the best in the NL and we can't even win one from the Red Sox.

[Broken Parachute]

This fucking DH is ridiculous. Why don't they just get rid of it. AL is so much stronger than the NL.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Because with the DH in the line-up you actually have a real line-up.

[Chemical Love]

The DH is great. I hate watching pitchers hit.

[hockey0001]

This fucking DH is ridiculous. Why don't they just get rid of it. AL is so much stronger than the NL.

or why doesnt the NL add it so that they dont basically have 2 wasted spots in their line-ups?

[Broken Parachute]

1. The NL would never add it, Bud Selig is too stupid to make an important decision like that.
2. I don't get why the DH was even added in the first place to just one league. Why didn't the NL get it too?

[shane hennessey]

the DH is stupid, it really takes away from the small ball aspect of the game

[NetNerdsRevenge]

the DH is stupid, it really takes away from the small ball aspect of the game
see, I dont believe in small ball at all. not to say what you said was wrong, but I dont miss it. A team that plays small ball all year long vs a team thats plays a moneyball approach is going to be second 9 times out of 10.

[shane hennessey]

see, I dont believe in small ball at all. not to say what you said was wrong, but I dont miss it. A team that plays small ball all year long vs a team thats plays a moneyball approach is going to be second 9 times out of 10. tis true but i think one reason why they also have not brought the DH to the national league is that you basically loose an original part of the game. having a batter that gets up three times a game and hits .280 with 40 home runs is just so common and boring. as a life long player and fan, i was never a fan of home runs and i am not interested in their mass appeal. someone like joe mauer should be the house hold name right now, not barry bonds. maybe even pujols, who is just a great hitter. this is all just my little beef with the game

[NetNerdsRevenge]

most DH's are not hitting 40 homeruns and Bonds is a house hold name regardless of his homerun total.

actually, not regardless at all. the point was, its not because of his homeruns, its what he may or may have not done to achieve a number of them.

[mikeford]

bonds was a household name well before he started pumpin cow hormones and 60 HRs a year. dude was bobby bonds kid and willie mays godson.



p.s. pwndro martinext

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Moments after the final out last night, Red Sox GM Theo Epstein sailed through the interview room, where manager Terry Francona gives his postgame news conferences. He was whistling a happy tune, stopping only to utter five words before resuming the song: "Computer geeks one, Pedro nothing."
kinda funny.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

bonds was a household name well before he started pumpin cow hormones and 60 HRs a year. dude was bobby bonds kid and willie mays godson.



p.s. pwndro martinext
very true

[LeftWideOpen]

kinda funny.

apparently pedro said something along the lines of "hey computer geeks, this is my world series title ..not yours" to henry/lucchino/werner/epstein (i guess i could have just said front office, haha) when they boarded the plane after winning it all.

i didnt believe it when i read it in the herald today because their writers are often full of shit, but if Theo is quoted as saying that, it could have happened.

either way, this isnt high school ..its a major league team, so i don't care. Pedro was the heart and soul of the Sox for a long time. The Sox made a mistake by not re-signing him, whether or not we still survived without him.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

I doubt it was meant with any real kind of negative connotation.

[LeftWideOpen]

I doubt it was meant with any real kind of negative connotation.

probably not, but the article in the paper was pretty much slamming pedro and that was used as part of the onslaught, so it left a bad taste in my mouth.

[Broken Parachute]

What the hell was Reyes doing? Horrible jump.