why is it okay?

[PdoubleEk]

i dont understand why its okay for tv networks to broadcast pg13 and r rated movies, and cut out words like fuck and shit, but its okay to leave "god damn" in there....

[bard]

i've always wondered this as well.

[Bryant]

I always hear it censored. :shrug:

[PdoubleEk]

I always here it censored. :shrug:

i think it may vary depending on the network.

also, this may be a stupid question, but are different states stricter on their network censorship maybe?

[mrnegativezero]

This reminds me of when Panic! at the Disco's song was censored. They would censor the "God" part but not the "damn." Didn't make sense to me.

But in response, one is sacrilegious, one isn't.

[Ari Christos]

Censorship is tricky. I know, with movies at least, it depends on whether the word is being used as a noun or a verb. Like the word "fuck" can be used as many times as you want if it's being used as a noun and still be PG-13 but if used as a verb a certain number of times, the rating is bumped up to R. Don't take my word for it and someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it works.

[bNz719]

I was watching 40 Year-Old Virgin yesterday and the word fuck was censored but ***** wasn't. I found that interesting.

[Greg.Kushlan]

Censorship is tricky. I know, with movies at least, it depends on whether the word is being used as a noun or a verb. Like the word "fuck" can be used as many times as you want if it's being used as a noun and still be PG-13 but if used as a verb a certain number of times, the rating is bumped up to R. Don't take my word for it and someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it works.
The MPAA has it's head up its ass and does whatever it wants with it's ratings. It doesn't matter if it's verbs or nouns.

[mrnegativezero]

Censorship is tricky. I know, with movies at least, it depends on whether the word is being used as a noun or a verb. Like the word "fuck" can be used as many times as you want if it's being used as a noun and still be PG-13 but if used as a verb a certain number of times, the rating is bumped up to R. Don't take my word for it and someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it works.

Hm. I didn't know that. What I was told was that the word "fuck" can be used a maximum of two times in PG-13. It wasn't clear about the tense. But yet..."shit" can be said 62 times and not be bumped up to R. Strange.

[zion the lion]

What's wrong with god damn?

[muttley]

What about being able to say ass but not hole?

I was watching 40 Year-Old Virgin yesterday and the word fuck was censored but ***** wasn't. I found that interesting.

Censorship strikes again.

[Bryant]

What about being able to say ass but not hole?



Censorship strikes again.Haha, that's a good one.

[PdoubleEk]

What's wrong with god damn?

its blasphemy

[zion the lion]

its blasphemy

It's not taking the lord's name in vain.

[Smeee]

It's not taking the lord's name in vain.

I'm afraid it is...

[Max_123]

i've always wondered, since when was bitch allowed on tv? like on mtv, vh1, E! and pretty much any other channel i've seen bitch doesn't get bleeped out but words like fuck do

[muttley]

i've always wondered, since when was bitch allowed on tv? like on mtv, vh1, E! and pretty much any other channel i've seen bitch doesn't get bleeped out but words like fuck do

I always figured...

Okay:
Damn
Hell
Bitch (As far as I know)
Bastard
etc.

Not Okay:
Shit
Fuck
Others such as C-Word, FA-Word, NI-Word, etc.

[Bryant]

I always figured...

Okay:
Damn
Hell
Bitch (As far as I know)
Bastard
etc.

Not Okay:
Shit
Fuck
Others such as C-Word, FA-Word, NI-Word, etc.Shit is actually allowed, haha.

[zion the lion]

I'm afraid it is...

I'm afraid it isnt. Actually, it means to act like youre more powerful than god because he'll be there when you call upon him. Or it means to say something like "as god as my witness" or something like that.

[muttley]

Shit is actually allowed, haha.

Where? I've never heard it.

[Smeee]

I'm afraid it isnt. Actually, it means to act like youre more powerful than god because he'll be there when you call upon him. Or it means to say something like "as god as my witness" or something like that.

That's just part of it. The Bible is pretty clear that God's name is holy and is not something that should be used haphazardly or flippantly (I can find you other verses to support this if you want). Saying "god dammit" isn't really revering God's name...

[Bryant]

Where? I've never heard it.I don't really watch many dramas but they said shit on Sons of Anarchy all the time. Maybe because it was on past a certain time?

EDIT: I think this convo is about the major networks and not cable so I don't know if my point is still valid.

[zion the lion]

That's just part of it. The Bible is pretty clear that God's name is holy and is not something that should be used haphazardly or flippantly (I can find you other verses to support this if you want). Saying "god dammit" isn't really revering God's name...

Not technically?

[PdoubleEk]

I don't really watch many dramas but they said shit on Sons of Anarchy all the time. Maybe because it was on past a certain time?

EDIT: I think this convo is about the major networks and not cable so I don't know if my point is still valid.

the conversation was supposed to be about the fact that cable networks like usa and tnt allow GD to be used but censor words like fuck and shit

[muttley]

I don't really watch many dramas but they said shit on Sons of Anarchy all the time. Maybe because it was on past a certain time?

EDIT: I think this convo is about the major networks and not cable so I don't know if my point is still valid.

Isn't that on FX? Now that I think about it, I remember watching something on that channel and it wasn't censoring "shit". It has to be the time then.

[theguy77]

the FCC does not censor the n-word. seriously. everyone who got a radio show at my college station had to just skim through the FCC rules for censorship and me and my co-host came across that rule.

[Jake Denning]

the FCC does not censor the n-word. seriously. everyone who got a radio show at my college station had to just skim through the FCC rules for censorship and me and my co-host came across that rule.

noticed that too, I was skimming channels and DirecTV froze for a second on BET and the n-word was completely uncensored; mind you, this was around midnight-1am, but still...

[muttley]

the FCC does not censor the n-word. seriously. everyone who got a radio show at my college station had to just skim through the FCC rules for censorship and me and my co-host came across that rule.

Don't think I've ever heard it. Unless it was on Comedy Central's "Secret Stash" or some other late night thing.

[theguy77]

Don't think I've ever heard it. Unless it was on Comedy Central's "Secret Stash" or some other late night thing.

i mean it isnt kosher to say the word, and anyone who says it publicly and isnt black has their image marred so badly it hangs with them forever, even after they issue an apology, so it doesnt happen often. but its still fucking retarded to me that they'll blip out a word like shit that means "poop" but they won't blip out an incredibly offensive racial slur.

[PdoubleEk]

i mean it isnt kosher to say the word, and anyone who says it publicly and isnt black has their image marred so badly it hangs with them forever, even after they issue an apology, so it doesnt happen often. but its still fucking retarded to me that they'll blip out a word like shit that means "poop" but they won't blip out an incredibly offensive racial slur.

good point

[Charles777]

I always figured...

Okay:
Damn
Hell
Bitch (As far as I know)
Bastard
etc.

Not Okay:
Shit
Fuck
Others such as C-Word, FA-Word, NI-Word, etc.
I hear the N-word all the time.

[Jake Denning]

i mean it isnt kosher to say the word, and anyone who says it publicly and isnt black has their image marred so badly it hangs with them forever, even after they issue an apology, so it doesnt happen often. but its still fucking retarded to me that they'll blip out a word like shit that means "poop" but they won't blip out an incredibly offensive racial slur.

ahahah he called the shit POOP! hahaha this is the greatest night of my life!

[Charles777]

ahahah he called the shit POOP! hahaha this is the greatest night of my life!
Haaaaaaaaaaaaahaha

[drudo182]

Yeah, the N-word actually isn't censored.

It seems like I've been hearing "Jesus" used in movies that are on USA and stuff as well. It's weird.

[Charles777]

Censorship in general just pisses me off. I don't see the point.

[TheProsAndCons]

i dont understand why its okay for tv networks to broadcast pg13 and r rated movies, and cut out words like fuck and shit, but its okay to leave "god damn" in there....

Because stupid religous pepole, like yourself, think it's "wrong", but it's only "wrong" to you, where as fuck and shit can be considered offensive to anyone....I guess?

[Lirr168]

A lot of the things being censored aren't mandated by the FCC but are done by the individual networks to cover their own asses. Great example: "roulette" and "gun" being censored from the second verse of "Pokerface." There's nothing inherently offensive, crude, etc. about it but if some moron decides to give russian roulette a try, you can bet some shyster lawyer would be suing any station playing the song.

[Jason Tate]

Why is "god damn" even considered something worth censoring?

[PdoubleEk]

Because stupid religous pepole, like yourself, think it's "wrong", but it's only "wrong" to you, where as fuck and shit can be considered offensive to anyone....I guess?

religious people arent stupid just because their views are different than yours, dear

Why is "god damn" even considered something worth censoring?

again, its blasphemy

[bastard_of_ness]

This reminds me of when Panic! at the Disco's song was censored. They would censor the "God" part but not the "damn." Didn't make sense to me.

But in response, one is sacrilegious, one isn't.

Bleeping God instead of damn happens all of the time. It makes me chuckle, but your point is exactly why they do it, for sure.

[TheProsAndCons]

religious people arent stupid just because their views are different than yours, dear


...dear...., I'm a girl? nope, and I meant that it's stupid of you to ask why it doesn't get censored, but yes, you are stupid

[PdoubleEk]

okay :thumbup:

[Jason Tate]

religious people arent stupid just because their views are different than yours, dear



again, its blasphemy
Blasphemy isn't anything.

[bastard_of_ness]

okay :thumbup:

It's cool, alot of 16 year olds think I'm stupid too... they have for about a decade now.

[WakingTheMisery]

Why is "god damn" even considered something worth censoring?

I feel like we would understand more if we lived in the Bible Belt.

[*crying stars*]

Networks self-regulate, the FCC just responds to complaints by viewers.

That's why FX is more lenient in allowing its shows to say the word "shit" as their audience is probably not going to take the time to phone the FCC about it.

EDIT: I can see why it would be offensive to some, but then you probably shouldn't be watching the type of programming that has those words in them if you don't like it.

[PdoubleEk]

Blasphemy isn't anything.

to alot of people, yes, it is

[Jason Tate]

to alot of people, yes, it is
Doesn't change anything. Hypocritical masses or not.

[PdoubleEk]

Doesn't change anything. Hypocritical masses or not.

everyone is a hypocrite, not just "the masses". we're all guilty of it

[Jason Tate]

everyone is a hypocrite, not just "the masses". we're all guilty of it
Are you trying to get me to just keep reposting the same thing?

[PdoubleEk]

sure

[Jason Tate]

sure
Then I'll make it easier: The FCC should not be censoring the word "God" - as my tax dollars fund the FCC and I have a reasonable claim to separation of church and state. Blasphemy means nothing.

[PdoubleEk]

Then I'll make it easier: The FCC should not be censoring the word "God" - as my tax dollars fund the FCC and I have a reasonable claim to separation of church and state. Blasphemy means nothing.

well in that case, if youre gonna look at it from a "separation of church and state" standpoint, dont you think fuck and shit should be uncensored as well? since plenty of "masses" find those words offensive?

[narcoleptic953]

to alot of people, yes, it is

Who gives a flying fuck? Honestly?

[Jason Tate]

well in that case, if youre gonna look at it from a "separation of church and state" standpoint, dont you think fuck and shit should be uncensored as well? since plenty of "masses" find those words offensive?
Nope. But neither of those words have anything to do with the church.

[Bob Payne]

this is a stupid god damn thread.

Networks self-regulate, the FCC just responds to complaints by viewers.

That's why FX is more lenient in allowing its shows to say the word "shit" as their audience is probably not going to take the time to phone the FCC about it.


This guy gets it.

[narcoleptic953]

Why would you make this thread anyway?

[PdoubleEk]

Who gives a flying fuck? Honestly?

me and the lot of people i just mentioned? :shrug:

Nope. But neither of those words have anything to do with the church.

i never said that they did. im just saying that different words are offensive to different groups of people for different reasons, so why not either censor all of it or none of it?

[narcoleptic953]

me and the lot of people i just mentioned? :shrug:



Get over it. It's a word. There are so many more important things to worry about.

[Jason Tate]

me and the lot of people i just mentioned? :shrug:



i never said that they did. im just saying that different words are offensive to different groups of people for different reasons, so why not either censor all of it or none of it?
They should censor none of it. But while that's not happening - they should at least respect the separation of church and state. The word "god" is not censored in blasphemous phrases such as "Oh my god" - but it is in "god damn" -- yet "damn" is not censored.

That's just stupid.

[TheProsAndCons]

me and the lot of people i just mentioned? :shrug:



i never said that they did. im just saying that different words are offensive to different groups of people for different reasons, so why not either censor all of it or none of it?

Dude, are you trying to argue with the founder of this site?:L You do realize that's compleatley retarted?

...your argument is invalid, btw :-d

[Josh Weinstein]

Was watching "Beerfest" not too long ago on Comedy Central. In the scene where Barry is introduced and he's a prostitute, it's censored when he says: "It's $10 for a [censored] J, $12 for an [censored] J, $15 for a [censored] J." They have to censor ZJ even if it's a made up sexual reference with no real meaning behind it. Ridiculous!

[Neo Cassady]

People need to start listening to George Carlin: the only censored words should be "shit", "piss", "fuck", "cunt", "cocksucker", "motherfucker" and "tits". Although the second and seventh are said all the time uncensored.

Also, pertaining to "Jesus": on a Family Guy commentary, Seth MacFarlane was saying how the network would let them use "Jesus" but not "Jesus Christ", unless the latter was specifically referring to the person. Hence the episode in which God shouts "Jesus Christ!" as an exclamation, and then the shot pans to Jesus saying "what?" Maybe that's a FOX rule, maybe it's across the board, maybe it's total bullshit. Who knows.

Finally, to address the "fuck" question...PG-13 movies can use it in a purely non-sexual manner. As soon as it refers to the sexual act, it's automatically rated R.

[*crying stars*]

Was watching "Beerfest" not too long ago on Comedy Central. In the scene where Barry is introduced and he's a prostitute, it's censored when he says: "It's $10 for a [censored] J, $12 for an [censored] J, $15 for a [censored] J." They have to censor ZJ even if it's a made up sexual reference with no real meaning behind it. Ridiculous!

What's a ZJ?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

[ZachMadeMeOdd]

i dont understand why its okay for tv networks to broadcast pg13 and r rated movies, and cut out words like fuck and shit, but its okay to leave "god damn" in there....

Religion is a dying breed.

[SomedayTheFire]

Why is that censored? American TV annoys me so much with it's censoring.

[prlyknitswtr]

goddamn is only offensive to a certain group of people. IMO thats why its tolerated more on certain networks. On TBS, they allow the word shit! oooo and recently, the word "******" has been acceptable on tv which just blew my mind.

the "*****" is actually n.i.g.g.e.r.

[mrnegativezero]

Censorship shouldn't exist. If we appease all those who are "offended" by words, the amount of censorship done would eventually lead us to resemble China.

[TheProsAndCons]

Censorship shouldn't exist. If we appease all those who are "offended" by words, the amount of censorship done would eventually lead us to resemble China.

No, you resemble China

[mrnegativezero]

No, you resemble China

Well, damn. I guess that happens when you don't look in the mirror for a few weeks.

[poppa Q]

Censorship is tricky. I know, with movies at least, it depends on whether the word is being used as a noun or a verb. Like the word "fuck" can be used as many times as you want if it's being used as a noun and still be PG-13 but if used as a verb a certain number of times, the rating is bumped up to R. Don't take my word for it and someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how it works.
Pg-13 movies are allowed one "fuck."
Also, pertaining to "Jesus": on a Family Guy commentary, Seth MacFarlane was saying how the network would let them use "Jesus" but not "Jesus Christ", unless the latter was specifically referring to the person. Hence the episode in which God shouts "Jesus Christ!" as an exclamation, and then the shot pans to Jesus saying "what?" Maybe that's a FOX rule, maybe it's across the board, maybe it's total bullshit. Who knows.
I think it boils down to whether or not it's cable...hence, It's Always Sunny getting away with multiple Jesus Christs.

[Prestonxsmith]

People need to start listening to George Carlin: the only censored words should be "shit", "piss", "fuck", "cunt", "cocksucker", "motherfucker" and "tits". Although the second and seventh are said all the time uncensored.

Also, pertaining to "Jesus": on a Family Guy commentary, Seth MacFarlane was saying how the network would let them use "Jesus" but not "Jesus Christ", unless the latter was specifically referring to the person. Hence the episode in which God shouts "Jesus Christ!" as an exclamation, and then the shot pans to Jesus saying "what?" Maybe that's a FOX rule, maybe it's across the board, maybe it's total bullshit. Who knows.

Finally, to address the "fuck" question...PG-13 movies can use it in a purely non-sexual manner. As soon as it refers to the sexual act, it's automatically rated R.

I think you can only say Fuck once in a PG-13 movie, and it cannot be a sexual reference.

[TheProsAndCons]

Well, damn. I guess that happens when you don't look in the mirror for a few weeks.

Tell J.D, he resembles "balls".......:)

[mrnegativezero]

Tell J.D, he resembles "balls".......:)

I think the correct quote you're looking for is, "By the way, it says 'BALLS' on your face."

[TheProsAndCons]

I think the correct quote you're looking for is, "By the way, it says 'BALLS' on your face."

Potatoe Potato dude, potatoe patoto

[mrnegativezero]

I think you can only say Fuck once in a PG-13 movie, and it cannot be a sexual reference.

My knowledge of the use of "fuck" in a movie is very limited. In fact much is based on what I read when looking up the movie Accepted, in which they bleep out the second use of "fuck" in order to avoid getting a R rating.

Another thing to consider, why do old movies get to keep their out dated ratings? I recently saying Sixteen Candles which is rated PG, but contains the word "fuck" and "shit." Not that I'm complaining... it just seems counterproductive.

[Gaugzilla]

Dude, are you trying to argue with the founder of this site?:L You do realize that's compleatley retarted?

...your argument is invalid, btw :-d

Are your horrible misspellings, including the word "retarted," some attempt to be ironic?


Censorship shouldn't exist. If we appease all those who are "offended" by words, the amount of censorship done would eventually lead us to resemble China.

I think TV has made some decent strides as far as censorship goes, just look at fx and Comedy Central. I think it's moving out of old traditions where words like 'shit' and 'goddamn' were considered bad. But honestly, I think limiting use of words like 'fuck' is better as far as creativity with dialogue goes for some shows. I don't think I've ever watched a show on NBC or something and thought 'That needed more f-bombs.' If I wanted that, I'd watch HBO or Showtime.


I think you can only say Fuck once in a PG-13 movie, and it cannot be a sexual reference.

I believe you can say it twice. I recall they allowed it twice in "As Good As It Gets," but the MPAA has crazy rationals for giving their ratings.

My knowledge of the use of "fuck" in a movie is very limited. In fact much is based on what I read when looking up the movie Accepted, in which they bleep out the second use of "fuck" in order to avoid getting a R rating.

Another thing to consider, why do old movies get to keep their out dated ratings? I recently saying Sixteen Candles which is rated PG, but contains the word "fuck" and "shit." Not that I'm complaining... it just seems counterproductive.

I think going through the whole process again, even if they just tried for "Sixteen Candles," would lead to other movies needing to be re-rated and, therefore, be time-consuming and mostly a waste of time.

[mrnegativezero]

I think going through the whole process again, even if they just tried for "Sixteen Candles," would lead to other movies needing to be re-rated and, therefore, be time-consuming and mostly a waste of time.

Holy-quote-a-lot Batman!

Anyway, yeah, I see your point. I think I prefer those ratings anyway. PG-13 has become a joke with what is allowed nowadays.

[Gaugzilla]

Holy-quote-a-lot Batman!

Anyway, yeah, I see your point. I think I prefer those ratings anyway. PG-13 has become a joke with what is allowed nowadays.
Haha. Yea, I'm always late to the party, so I try to catch up. And PG-13 is ridiculous, especially when they give big time directors like Spielberg and James Cameron the leniency to basically do anything.

[TheProsAndCons]

Are your horrible misspellings, including the word "retarted," some attempt to be ironic?



No, not at all