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sean-reid
12/23/09, 10:30 AM
I'll probably get abuse/moaned at for doing this but fuck it.

Silverstein have said their next album won't be on Victory Records, according to this interview (http://www.alterthepress.com/2009/12/interview-silverstein-10122009.html).

ATP: Will the next record be on Victory Records?
PK: It will not.

ATP: Is there another label in the works already?
PK: Not yet, we are just finishing our turn with Victory, and moving on; we are just concerned with touring full time, like we always do. Next year, there will be some new stuff from us.

flks511
12/23/09, 10:48 AM
Beautiful.

SteveLikesMusic
12/23/09, 10:56 AM
Good for them.

Charles777
12/23/09, 11:01 AM
Awesome.

love_american_style
12/23/09, 11:44 AM
i wish a certain band in particular felt this way as well.

mulcahy67
12/23/09, 11:46 AM
shitty band leaves shitty label, how odd.

zubinmoosa
12/23/09, 12:12 PM
Shipwreck was a great album. Really surprised me

ndoleman
12/23/09, 12:46 PM
Pretty good news. I can imagine Victory owes them a shitload of money. Thing with Silverstein, they dont care and arent in it for the money and i dont think its worth the lawsuit after what happened to HH. They'll probably sign to a major in Canada but i really have no clue haha good news anyways, i love this band

SteveD
12/23/09, 12:56 PM
Good.

4N6 science
12/23/09, 01:05 PM
Eh.. I've lost interest in this band.

zachff
12/23/09, 01:24 PM
This band lost me after their last (1 or 2?) releases. Discovering the Waterfront and the albums before that were great. Since then, not so much

chassmariee
12/23/09, 01:35 PM
I like Victory. That's dumb.

anthonydarko
12/23/09, 01:52 PM
I like Victory. That's dumb.
Why do you like a label that has fucked over numerous bands just to line Tony Brummel's pockets?

Poe-tryGirl
12/23/09, 01:53 PM
Awesome.

friskycurtain
12/23/09, 02:02 PM
Probably a good thing. I heard that Victory are basically the schoolyard bullies of the record industry. This is like the 3rd band in a few years to bail.

sweepthenation
12/23/09, 02:13 PM
Nice

seraph1214
12/23/09, 02:39 PM
They're definitely making the right choice.

Hockeywall
12/23/09, 02:59 PM
Possibly Dine Alone in Canada, Vagrant in the US? I can't see it, but maybe we'll see Epitaph among others scoop them up. I have a feeling the poster who said they will sign major in Canada is probably correct.

chassmariee
12/23/09, 03:30 PM
Why do you like a label that has fucked over numerous bands just to line Tony Brummel's pockets?
Dunno really. Never looked into all that, I just never had beef.

anthonydarko
12/23/09, 03:42 PM
Dunno really. Never looked into all that, I just never had beef.
That label is easily one of the worst record labels out there, aside from Drive-Thru and Trustkill, whom I feel are worse then Victory. Silverstein made the right choice with leaving Victory, now they can go to a label that will treat them with the respect they deserve.

SpyKi
12/23/09, 03:45 PM
This band lost me after their last (1 or 2?) releases. Discovering the Waterfront and the albums before that were great. Since then, not so much
I love DTW. I've never really been able to get into anything else by this band though.

heyzombiehitler
12/23/09, 03:47 PM
Victory is losing all their best and signing poop in return.

SophGod
12/23/09, 03:48 PM
victory should just quit and disappear so good bands don't get sucked in.

anthonydarko
12/23/09, 03:49 PM
Shipwreck was a great album. Really surprised me
Same here, it was much better then I thought it was going to be.

Fringe
12/23/09, 04:34 PM
Thank god. These guys are too good to be on a shitty label.

ndoleman
12/23/09, 05:17 PM
Possibly Dine Alone in Canada, Vagrant in the US? I can't see it, but maybe we'll see Epitaph among others scoop them up. I have a feeling the poster who said they will sign major in Canada is probably correct.
Lol i can't see them signing to dine alone in Canada at all, or Vagrant for the US. Im thinking Epitaph might swoop this one up too. Would be a great decision for both parties.

KidRobot
12/23/09, 05:52 PM
My 15 year old self would care, 4 years later and my only reaction is meh.

andthetruthwill
12/23/09, 07:24 PM
Why do you like a label that has fucked over numerous bands just to line Tony Brummel's pockets?

Victory has amazing promotional and merchandising push. They compel their bands to be out on the road. They let their bands make records. Continually, and when the bands want to. For a smaller band, they are one of the best labels to be associated with. They are supportive of this scene and gives lots of kids chances when no one else will. The bands know what they are getting into if they read their contracts as they should. If they don't, it's because they didn't. A Day to Remember's attitude is excellent about this. They know what they signed to and respect it. The bands who have problems probly weren't the smartest at the start. Hawthorne Heights even kind of recognized this. And Thursday even went back and moved forward without animosity. Victory recieves a lot of undeserved hate for only rumors that kids spread.

anthonydarko
12/23/09, 07:37 PM
Victory has amazing promotional and merchandising push. They compel their bands to be out on the road. They let their bands make records. Continually, and when the bands want to. For a smaller band, they are one of the best labels to be associated with. They are supportive of this scene and gives lots of kids chances when no one else will. The bands know what they are getting into if they read their contracts as they should. If they don't, it's because they didn't. A Day to Remember's attitude is excellent about this. They know what they signed to and respect it. The bands who have problems probly weren't the smartest at the start. Hawthorne Heights even kind of recognized this. And Thursday even went back and moved forward without animosity. Victory recieves a lot of undeserved hate for only rumors that kids spread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Records#Controversy
http://www.punknews.org/article/3601
Also, why not mention all the great bands like The Forecast and Spitalfield who got little to no attention from the label when they released new records? How about the bands that got forced to sign unfair contracts that left them broke and unable to support themselves? Victory is FAR from a good label.

andthetruthwill
12/23/09, 07:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Records#Controversy
http://www.punknews.org/article/3601
Also, why not mention all the great bands like The Forecast and Spitalfield who got little to no attention from the label when they released new records? How about the bands that got forced to sign unfair contracts that left them broke and unable to support themselves? Victory is FAR from a good label.

Wikipedia should never be linked as source. It's not legitimate. Anyone can write anything on that and pass it off as truth. And not all bands turn out to be good fits for all labels. Victory let Spitalfield make three records. The fact of the matter is that they didn't really connect with kids. The Forecast, the same deal, a lot of kids didn't get into them. But Victory did encourage them to tour, gave them merch set ups and displays, as they give all their bands. And no one can be forced to sign anything they don't want to, especially a record contract. Bands are full of excitable and naive kids who don't know what they are doing. That's what thorughly reading a document and a lawyer is for. And the Thursday article you linked is old and written from one side, slanted without the other. Labels want different things from what their bands want. That, I would suppose, is a normal known occurennce. And the fact is that if Victory hadn't of taken a chance on these bands that supposedly got "screwed" over, we would most likely never know them. They may never have gotten the chance from anyone else.

anthonydarko
12/23/09, 07:59 PM
Wikipedia should never be linked as source. It's not legitimate. Anyone can write anything on that and pass it off as truth. And not all bands turn out to be good fits for all labels. Victory let Spitalfield make three records. The fact of the matter is that they didn't really connect with kids. The Forecast, the same deal, a lot of kids didn't get into them. But Victory did encourage them to tour, gave them merch set ups and displays, as they give all their bands. And no one can be forced to sign anything they don't want to, especially a record contract. Bands are full of excitable and naive kids who don't know what they are doing. That's what thorughly reading a document and a lawyer is for. And the Thursday article you linked is old and written from one side, slanted without the other. Labels want different things from what their bands want. That, I would suppose, is a normal known occurennce. And the fact is that if Victory hadn't of taken a chance on these bands that supposedly got "screwed" over, we would most likely never know them. They may never have gotten the chance from anyone else.
:rolleyes:

andrewa5
12/23/09, 10:27 PM
Good for them!

PowerRanga
12/24/09, 03:00 AM
A Shipwreck in the Sand was a solid album, I can't wait to see what they could do on a better label.

Theseventhson
12/24/09, 09:50 AM
Wikipedia should never be linked as source. It's not legitimate. Anyone can write anything on that and pass it off as truth. And not all bands turn out to be good fits for all labels. Victory let Spitalfield make three records. The fact of the matter is that they didn't really connect with kids. The Forecast, the same deal, a lot of kids didn't get into them. But Victory did encourage them to tour, gave them merch set ups and displays, as they give all their bands. And no one can be forced to sign anything they don't want to, especially a record contract. Bands are full of excitable and naive kids who don't know what they are doing. That's what thorughly reading a document and a lawyer is for. And the Thursday article you linked is old and written from one side, slanted without the other. Labels want different things from what their bands want. That, I would suppose, is a normal known occurennce. And the fact is that if Victory hadn't of taken a chance on these bands that supposedly got "screwed" over, we would most likely never know them. They may never have gotten the chance from anyone else.
:lol: