Veil of Maya vs. Black Dahlia Murder

[TERRABITHIA]

Who do you like better? and Why?

[mht]

http://www.myspace.com/ironthrones

ex-veil of maya/nehemiah

better than both

[Alex DiVincenzo]

BDM, not even close.

[NateFoundGlory]

Black Dahlia Murder, definitely. It's not completely my style, but I respect em.

[Derka Derka]

The Black Dahlia Murder

Veil Of Maya is meh, if I want to hear really choppy guitars in odd time signatures I'll just listen to Meshuggah or After The Burial. Both of them blow Veil Of Maya out of the water

[AshesAshes]

http://www.myspace.com/ironthrones

ex-veil of maya/nehemiah

better than both

http://download.ironthrones.com/ You can buy the album for any price you want

[iSasquatchh]

It was unfair to pin up Veil of Maya to The Black Dahlia Murder. Veil of Maya comes off to me as just another double bass reliant band such as Emmure or Winds of Plague.

[Matthew Tsai]

Never heard Veil of Maya, TBDM is awful

[dannybr0ot4l]

The Black Dahlia Murder by far. What A Horrible night is a jam.

[ZachMadeMeOdd]

Can't believe this thread. Given there may be a few too many breakdowns but for a four piece veil of maya's progressions and speed are amazing. Underrated.

[doritoz]

I don't really listen to any of them, but I remember the drummer from The Kidcrash (who is NICER DICER) likes them. He is an awesome drummer and said that the drummer of Veil Of Maya was really good. In fact he said this about them (kinda long):

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This record makes me feel insane; It gives me an appreciation for death metal (?), double bass drum work, and chugs after having generally written all of them off as things that I was generally not that excited about. This record gives me no choice but to dive into the deep end and embrace any nu-metal implications that some parts as well as the production have. Clearly I can't help but feel like being into this record requires being moderately into nu-metal, not that it's nu-metal at all, there is just a certain quotation throughout the record where it's easy to see how nu-metal ideas played a roll in the composition of the record. The double bass drum work is outrageous, I've been relatively unimpressed my whole life by most double bass work (sans don cab - american don): all of my favorite drummers have always pulled off ridiculous feats with a single bass drum pedal, and i've always felt like most double bass work just comes off as to predictable, not to mention that most drummers fail to establish any sort of a groove ( everything gets stripped down in this very mechanical, triggered, manner wear time is approached in a far too linear way. I have always dug drummers who could make a double bass set up groove, but there is something about hearing that open hi-hat, bass roll, break down, -beat that makes me think about how the drummer has given up control of the hi-hat and it's dynamic textures (it doesn't have to be this way, but i've never heard or seen a drummer play with their toes on the hi-hat pedal and their heel on the second bass pedal, but it's totally possible to choke and open the hi-hat and shred double bass at the same time, i was set on developing this kind of coordination myself but committed to only use the pedal to practice and not play or record with it until I had mastery over it enough to only use it in creative ways, and I just stopped setting it up. any drummer should know why the entire feel of a rock drummer is blown by the extra inches everything has to move awkwardly over to accommodate the pedal. drummers who play with two rack toms, crash cymbals, those cymbal bells, piccolo snare drums, 7a sticks, low hi-hats, or a ride cymbal tilted at a huge angle off to the side of the kit... might not understand what i'm talking about, those all tend to be signs of a rock drummer who is not playing by feel, the more mechanical kind of players who make rhythm tired and bland. don't get me wrong, there are tons of rock drummers who use various combinations of accessories who are killer, obviously there are exceptions: but over the years I have played with every one of those accessories at one point or another, but I grew out of each of them as I found other ways to get the sound I was seeking from them out of other tools that I have found to be more naturally predisposed to supporting feel based drumming. Just listen to this record. It all comes down to this drummer.) You'll see what I'm getting at when I say it redefines the chug."

It made me interested in them so I checked some of their songs. I didn't like them that much (certainly not as much as that dude), but they had some cool parts in their songs.

Ok, I just thought this post would be kind of interested.

[kazuma_ootaro28]

Black Dahlia Murder. Veil of Maya's latest album was alright, and I'll certainly take them over the crap that is Emmure and Winds of Plague (as someone mentioned earlier).

[Alex DiVincenzo]

I don't really listen to any of them, but I remember the drummer from The Kidcrash (who is NICER DICER) likes them. He is an awesome drummer and said that the drummer of Veil Of Maya was really good. In fact he said this about them (kinda long)

The Kidcrash<3

[StuffUWillHate]

I strongly dislike Gothenberg-style metalcore but BDM were one of the first to play the style and do it really well. Respect for sure.

[djstarscream11]

Black Dahlia Fucking Murder all day.. I have liked them since they formed and seen a few memeber changes and they are better then ever now. Ryan Knight holding down lead guitars from Arsis and hes doing a great job. And Shannon Lucas from All That Remains is one beast of a drummer. And Trevor's vocals dont get boaring to me because hes got a pretty alright range he does good highs and lows which keep me listening. I respect Veil Of Maya but they dont come close in comparison to BDM.. Its almost unfair to put them in a VS in my opinion anyways.

[brothaman]

not really into this stuff anymore, but tbdm is insane!

[JTMcKrackles]

Veil of Maya sucks while The Black Dahlia Murder is okay.