View Full Version : andrew wk isn't real. i think i'm going to kill myself
x togepi x
01/04/10, 02:01 PM
http://www.exclaim.ca/articles/generalarticlesynopsfullart.aspx?cs %20id1=115&csid2=844&fid1=43375
http://www.rockfeedback.com/tv/direct/channels/297400/726569/
dear god why have you forsaken me?
dustyfloors
01/04/10, 02:07 PM
Not shocked. I don't think any human being can party as hard as AWK claims to.
anthonydarko
01/04/10, 02:07 PM
Oh well, I'll still listen to the music regardless.
wroteurname
01/04/10, 02:11 PM
I don't follow, did the first one die and they replaced him with some guy that looks like him? Like Lassy?
x togepi x
01/04/10, 02:12 PM
i don't think they ever explained that.
but it sort of invalidates all of his philosophy, maybe.
bradsonemanband
01/04/10, 02:13 PM
eh? i dont get it
SiameseGun89
01/04/10, 02:20 PM
In as much as any group of people get together and discuss sounds they want to pursue or develop an "image"
Or when bands audition members when another leaves, you wouldn't say that the new member is a fraud.
I think it's awesome what he did.
I think that people are misinterpreting what he said. He's already addressed this with a blog entry today. He's real.
guitarpickheart
01/04/10, 02:31 PM
I think that people are misinterpreting what he said. He's already addressed this with a blog entry today. He's real.
I don't follow, did the first one die and they replaced him with some guy that looks like him? Like Lassy?
http://www.exclaim.ca/articles/generalarticlesynopsfullart.aspx?cs %20id1=115&csid2=844&fid1=43375
http://www.rockfeedback.com/tv/direct/channels/297400/726569/
dear god why have you forsaken me?
This is quite a confusing thread.
x togepi x
01/04/10, 02:31 PM
link to his blog?
GhostFight
01/04/10, 03:03 PM
didnt we know this for years? i mean, it wasnt official, but i was pretty sure everyone knew already, no surprise really.
bradsonemanband
01/04/10, 03:28 PM
i dont get it. how is it not him?
Smash Adams
01/04/10, 03:36 PM
link to his blog?
http://www.andrewwk.com/index.php?page=page.php?id=64
not that that makes much more sense
Haha I like the idea that he's some kind of human equivalent to Lassie. They should try it with more popstars.
zion the lion
01/04/10, 03:47 PM
I'm not sure I get it.
jbertclassic
01/04/10, 03:52 PM
Heard about this a week or so ago. Pretty funny actually.
kbi the crowing
01/04/10, 03:54 PM
I think that people are misinterpreting what he said. He's already addressed this with a blog entry today. He's real.
that didn't clear up anything, it was really cryptic and vague
I don't even listen to him I'm just so confused as to why
kearn1tm
01/04/10, 03:59 PM
Ha!
zion the lion
01/04/10, 04:05 PM
i dont get it. how is it not him?
I'm not getting the lassie reference, but I assume they mean its like Darrin from Bewitched, he's just season two Darrin? Maybe?
IntoTheSun
01/04/10, 04:07 PM
Ha!
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C'mon, that was too easy.
kearn1tm
01/04/10, 04:07 PM
His rapier wit is tearing through you all! You all, I say.
Theseventhson
01/04/10, 04:26 PM
This could possibly make him way cooler.
people need to stop taking things artists say seriously. "i'm not that person" pretty much means he reinvented himself... or found scientology
kearn1tm
01/04/10, 04:48 PM
This is all speculation, but here goes:
He's a classically trained pianist. He was playing at U of M's music department in his preteens. He's participated in a few avant-garde music collections. He's currently working with Matt Sweeney. He recorded an electronic EP right before suddenly recording as Andrew WK. He writes and composes music for a Cartoon Network program. I've always looked at his music and his "persona" (I suppose) as a tongue-in-cheek piece of campy fun.
listen to the video. He explains himself well: "I spent part of my youth enjoying and making music no one else liked and weren't smart enough to get it, but I sort of wanted it to be weird and thoughtful enough that they'd never get it. I grew out of that for a while and wanted to a kind of music I would really like and people I wouldn't normally like would enjoy and we'd come together and find commonalities through our mutual enjoyment of this music."
It's all there.
StuffUWillHate
01/04/10, 05:51 PM
As long as he still likes Hemdale, Gut and Obituary then all is well.
wroteurname
01/04/10, 06:19 PM
I'm not getting the lassie reference, but I assume they mean its like Darrin from Bewitched, he's just season two Darrin? Maybe?
The dog kept dying and they just kept using new Golden Retrievers.
This is all speculation, but here goes:
He's a classically trained pianist. He was playing at U of M's music department in his preteens. He's participated in a few avant-garde music collections. He's currently working with Matt Sweeney. He recorded an electronic EP right before suddenly recording as Andrew WK. He writes and composes music for a Cartoon Network program. I've always looked at his music and his "persona" (I suppose) as a tongue-in-cheek piece of campy fun.
listen to the video. He explains himself well: "I spent part of my youth enjoying and making music no one else liked and weren't smart enough to get it, but I sort of wanted it to be weird and thoughtful enough that they'd never get it. I grew out of that for a while and wanted to a kind of music I would really like and people I wouldn't normally like would enjoy and we'd come together and find commonalities through our mutual enjoyment of this music."
It's all there.
Yeah, but he says "I don't mean philosophically or conceptually. I am not that person."
zion the lion
01/04/10, 06:21 PM
The dog kept dying and they just kept using new Golden Retrievers.
Yeah, but he says "I don't mean philosophically or conceptually. I am not that person."
And Lassie is the dog?
wroteurname
01/04/10, 06:25 PM
And Lassie is the dog?
Yeah...you've never heard of/seen the show/movie Lassie?
anthonydarko
01/04/10, 06:27 PM
The dog kept dying and they just kept using new Golden Retrievers.
Lassie was a collie.
wroteurname
01/04/10, 06:28 PM
Lassie was a collie.
Grizzly Adams did have a beard.
anthonydarko
01/04/10, 06:31 PM
Grizzly Adams did have a beard.
Why get defensive? I only pointed out that you got the wrong breed.
zion the lion
01/04/10, 06:32 PM
Yeah...you've never heard of/seen the show/movie Lassie?
I've heard of it, just never knew what it was.
swt_catastrophe
01/04/10, 06:33 PM
I don't follow, did the first one die and they replaced him with some guy that looks like him? Like Lassy?
No idea, but I love the analogy.
TheOtherAndrew
01/04/10, 06:50 PM
Has no one even considered the fact that this might be a publicity stunt?
IntoTheSun
01/04/10, 06:55 PM
Oh. I was just kind of under the assumption that everyone in the thread was joking haha.
Circa1628
01/04/10, 06:59 PM
This whole thing is too confusing, and supposedly this has been going on for a while. I need a third grade version of the story
I remember reading about this a couple of years ago and being majorily confused, but this isn't that confusing. He used to be a noise musician (his first two eps/albums were in that vein, he played in Wolf Eyes, etc) and his friends from the Michigan scene, i.e. founder of bulb records, his dad, himself, various others, made up the ultimate frontman that would accept everyone since he felt alienated at hardcore shows even though it was supposed to be an environment of acceptance. So he got signed to Island, released I Get Wet, became a star and all that. Then when he convinced Island to let him try something he liked, he released The Wolf and it was universally panned. Then he was stuck in a situation were he had to basically do what Island wanted him too since the act is Andrew W.K., but because it's his own real names he's been releasing all the weird shit he wants to make, but can't put out here and be commericially viable, he does this in countries like South Korea, UK, etc. But he's still a dude that likes to party and all that, it's just kind of a shitty situation for him. Basically just comes down to label woes.
Andrew W.K. is the best, I hope he gets everything figured out, he's doing a huge Q&A about the whole thing in NY pretty soon so there will be some more stuff figured out there
a6pMNElW0rE
Party hard y'all
atticus18244fss
01/04/10, 07:46 PM
I remember reading about this a couple of years ago and being majorily confused, but this isn't that confusing. He used to be a noise musician (his first two eps/albums were in that vein, he played in Wolf Eyes, etc) and his friends from the Michigan scene, i.e. founder of bulb records, his dad, himself, various others, made up the ultimate frontman that would accept everyone since he felt alienated at hardcore shows even though it was supposed to be an environment of acceptance. So he got signed to Island, released I Get Wet, became a star and all that. Then when he convinced Island to let him try something he liked, he released The Wolf and it was universally panned. Then he was stuck in a situation were he had to basically do what Island wanted him too since the act is Andrew W.K., but because it's his own real names he's been releasing all the weird shit he wants to make, but can't put out here and be commericially viable, he does this in countries like South Korea, UK, etc. But he's still a dude that likes to party and all that, it's just kind of a shitty situation for him. Basically just comes down to label woes.
Andrew W.K. is the best, I hope he gets everything figured out, he's doing a huge Q&A about the whole thing in NY pretty soon so there will be some more stuff figured out there
a6pMNElW0rE
Party hard y'all
Best interpretation of the situation yet that I've read on any site.
StuffUWillHate
01/04/10, 09:05 PM
Thanks for the summary- AWK seems like a real good dude and I wish him the best (although I didn't really like any of his stuff after I Get Wet). Would def bro down with him!
stupidtyonparad
01/04/10, 10:02 PM
this is the weirdest and flat out most upsetting thing ive ever heard.
the guy seemed so genuine. i honestly thought he was like...one of the last honest real people in life. i dressed up as him for halloween!!! what the fuck man!
briewer
01/04/10, 10:19 PM
http://www.exclaim.ca/articles/generalarticlesynopsfullart.aspx?cs %20id1=115&csid2=844&fid1=43375
http://www.rockfeedback.com/tv/direct/channels/297400/726569/
dear god why have you forsaken me?
:hug:
stupidtyonparad
01/04/10, 10:30 PM
ok thank god. i just read and watched everything in this thread....and ive come to the conclusion that he has handlers, like hte president, and that he is in fact a real person. phew.
cecchemi
01/05/10, 06:19 AM
his music DID change when he put out Close Calls With Brick Walls though.. lol.
saveferris
01/05/10, 08:57 AM
I really don't get it. Can someone make this clear?
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 10:12 AM
his music DID change when he put out Close Calls With Brick Walls though.. lol.
god forbid somebody doesnt make the same album 100 times in a row
ihaveblink
01/05/10, 11:09 AM
especially considering the first album was one giant party album with little variation of songs.
WakingTheMisery
01/05/10, 11:15 AM
I've always assumed this.
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 11:17 AM
Awk Forever!!!
marsvoltamcr
01/05/10, 12:21 PM
The thing I'm wondering is, what is the original doing now? because I Get Wet was an awesome album
chassmariee
01/05/10, 01:07 PM
Sooo, is this a different person fully? I'm so confused.
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 02:19 PM
no. its been the same actual physical person the whole time. he's just saying his image and his goals have changed and saying he was the product of handlers who led him one way at the start of his career
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 02:30 PM
wait. maybe not. im fucking confused. the more i research this, the less i understand.
kearn1tm
01/05/10, 08:21 PM
This is performance art. I have no idea where he's going with it, but that's what it is. The #1 source for all the rumors that AWK is an actor is Andrew WK. On his Twitter, in his speaking engagements, on his website. He posts all these things, and then tells you not to believe them. He posted a link to the video Topegi posted the other day on Twitter saying "The forced me to say those things, it's not true." Some of the "evidence" online includes photos of the "original 2001" Andrew WK which look absolutely nothing like the guy in the "Party Hard" video from 2001. The guy in that video looks like the current guy. In the video linked in the first post, he starts his talk by casually name his father, with whom he shares a last name (Andrew Wilkes-Krier), and then goes on to say Andrew W.K. is a fake name. He released a "statement" on the subject on youtube yesterday that was supposed to be his definitive take on it, and he's got some weird filter on his voice. A couple of months ago he claimed "Steev Mike" was his former manager who had stolen the rights to his name and likeness, and now his story regarding "Steev Mike" is completely different. I feel quite sure he made this whole thing up. I don't know why he did, but it's been fascinating me.
Oh, and the American release of his 2006 Asia-only album Close Calls With Brick Walls packed with a rarities set called Mother of Mankind happens to be 2/23. Not too far away. Fancy that.
JuneJuly
01/05/10, 08:39 PM
I STILL don't understand. He's just taken over for the old Andrew WK?
EDIT:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2010/01/500x_custom_1262641433257_andrew.jp g
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 09:03 PM
This is performance art. I have no idea where he's going with it, but that's what it is. The #1 source for all the rumors that AWK is an actor is Andrew WK. On his Twitter, in his speaking engagements, on his website. He posts all these things, and then tells you not to believe them. He posted a link to the video Topegi posted the other day on Twitter saying "The forced me to say those things, it's not true." Some of the "evidence" online includes photos of the "original 2001" Andrew WK which look absolutely nothing like the guy in the "Party Hard" video from 2001. The guy in that video looks like the current guy. In the video linked in the first post, he starts his talk by casually name his father, with whom he shares a last name (Andrew Wilkes-Krier), and then goes on to say Andrew W.K. is a fake name. He released a "statement" on the subject on youtube yesterday that was supposed to be his definitive take on it, and he's got some weird filter on his voice. A couple of months ago he claimed "Steev Mike" was his former manager who had stolen the rights to his name and likeness, and now his story regarding "Steev Mike" is completely different. I feel quite sure he made this whole thing up. I don't know why he did, but it's been fascinating me.
Oh, and the American release of his 2006 Asia-only album Close Calls With Brick Walls packed with a rarities set called Mother of Mankind happens to be 2/23. Not too far away. Fancy that.
theres more to it than that. this is truly troubling him i believe. hes hosting a night at his night club in february where its an open Q&A about his past where he will do his best to answer everything. something is really fucked up and i think he's trying to repare it. unfortunately, the conspiracy side of me believes what ive been reading (ive been doing a lot of research on this tonight and last night) and i think theres a lot more of a corporation side to all of this than just one man doing a publicity stunt. he's struggling with something serious here. it really bothers me cause i thought he was a genuine care-free human being who wanted to promote positive ideals. but if its all manufactured...then this is fucked up.
also, something very interesting that may prove this ISNT a publicity stunt, the footage from madame jojo's is from september 2008. i dont know why its just being released now, probably label controversy in regards to what he talks about. hmm.....this is so upsetting.
kearn1tm
01/05/10, 09:13 PM
theres more to it than that. this is truly troubling him i believe. hes hosting a night at his night club in february where its an open Q&A about his past where he will do his best to answer everything. something is really fucked up and i think he's trying to repare it. unfortunately, the conspiracy side of me believes what ive been reading (ive been doing a lot of research on this tonight and last night) and i think theres a lot more of a corporation side to all of this than just one man doing a publicity stunt. he's struggling with something serious here.
I don't think there is, but I could be wrong.
it really bothers me cause i thought he was a genuine care-free human being who wanted to promote positive ideals. but if its all manufactured...then this is fucked up.
Why? In his own words, he wanted to make music both he and people he wouldn't normally interact with or share an artistic bond with could enjoy, and did so through the infectious spirit of "the ultimate frontman." He claimed elements of Andrew WK are rooted in himself. It's a pretty cool thing.
JuneJuly
01/05/10, 09:15 PM
theres more to it than that. this is truly troubling him i believe. hes hosting a night at his night club in february where its an open Q&A about his past where he will do his best to answer everything. something is really fucked up and i think he's trying to repare it. unfortunately, the conspiracy side of me believes what ive been reading (ive been doing a lot of research on this tonight and last night) and i think theres a lot more of a corporation side to all of this than just one man doing a publicity stunt. he's struggling with something serious here. it really bothers me cause i thought he was a genuine care-free human being who wanted to promote positive ideals. but if its all manufactured...then this is fucked up.
also, something very interesting that may prove this ISNT a publicity stunt, the footage from madame jojo's is from september 2008. i dont know why its just being released now, probably label controversy in regards to what he talks about. hmm.....this is so upsetting.
anything in particular making you think this?
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 09:20 PM
google steev mike or andrew wk conspiracy. theres all kinds of shit about it. people have been saying stuff for a long time.
and his blog is very defensive, and the idea that he's going to hold a Q&A session is very interesting, it shows theres more to the story and that he wants to figure out the best way to explain it.
and the guy from the party hard video does not look exactly like the current andrew wk. it could be the same guy, but, according to his own words in the madame jojo video, its not him. so it was possibly a very good switch.
stupidtyonparad
01/05/10, 09:41 PM
the guy in the we want fun video looks like the current awk though.
ugh. this is such bullshit. i hate corporate america.
x togepi x
01/06/10, 01:15 AM
This is performance art. I have no idea where he's going with it, but that's what it is. The #1 source for all the rumors that AWK is an actor is Andrew WK. On his Twitter, in his speaking engagements, on his website. He posts all these things, and then tells you not to believe them. He posted a link to the video Topegi posted the other day on Twitter saying "The forced me to say those things, it's not true." Some of the "evidence" online includes photos of the "original 2001" Andrew WK which look absolutely nothing like the guy in the "Party Hard" video from 2001. The guy in that video looks like the current guy. In the video linked in the first post, he starts his talk by casually name his father, with whom he shares a last name (Andrew Wilkes-Krier), and then goes on to say Andrew W.K. is a fake name. He released a "statement" on the subject on youtube yesterday that was supposed to be his definitive take on it, and he's got some weird filter on his voice. A couple of months ago he claimed "Steev Mike" was his former manager who had stolen the rights to his name and likeness, and now his story regarding "Steev Mike" is completely different. I feel quite sure he made this whole thing up. I don't know why he did, but it's been fascinating me.
Oh, and the American release of his 2006 Asia-only album Close Calls With Brick Walls packed with a rarities set called Mother of Mankind happens to be 2/23. Not too far away. Fancy that.
see, i don't know if it is "performance art". it could very well be backpedaling from someone with many fans who adhere to DIY in some aspect since he fears backlash if they find out he was built by a record label. That's all I'm confused by, is his concept of inclusiveness sincere or is it just corporate bs meant to sell records (it was, a common criticism of I Get Wet that it was meant to be the soundtrack to commercials and hollywood movies).
I don't think he's got "handlers" any more than any other major label celebrity does. the question is: how much of the AWK concept was made by this "committee" and how much of it was him. I can see the committee trying to make the ultimate frontman, but is his philosophy corporately designed or did he just add that to the character? is andrew wk merely a corporate simulacrum? I say this because there's a lot more to AWK than PARTY PARTY PARTY, especially if you watch his Soft Focus interview.
i also don't think it's a publicity stunt for his new material because it can't be released here anyway. dude legitimately got fucked in that regard.
RushAndAPush
01/06/10, 03:41 AM
ummm if you kill yourself. Can i take your place as the new x togepi x.
(http://www.absolutepunk.net/member.php?u=65099)
SanePsychotic
01/06/10, 04:40 AM
Eh, I don't really care. I still like the idea of Andrew WK, so it's a not a big deal to me.
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 10:45 AM
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thats the current awk, his voice is almost identical. and this video is pretty damn old. and hilarious.
Robototron
01/06/10, 11:44 AM
hes hosting a night at his night club in february where its an open Q&A about his past where he will do his best to answer everything.
Um, hosting a night at his own nightclub just kind of follows along with the "it's a publicity stunt" theory. It's not like anyone really goes to Santos that much to begin with.
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 11:50 AM
i dont live out there, so i dont really know how it does? sorry?
or maybe its a venue he can easily book and set up the way he wants? cuts down on hassle?
TheSnoo
01/06/10, 12:50 PM
I still respect his music anyway.
x togepi x
01/06/10, 01:25 PM
Um, hosting a night at his own nightclub just kind of follows along with the "it's a publicity stunt" theory. It's not like anyone really goes to Santos that much to begin with.
a publicity stunt for what? to sell records that nobody is going to buy because they're too lazy to get shit imported from japan?
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 01:27 PM
according to his website, its a worldwide release. id assume that means america.
x togepi x
01/06/10, 01:56 PM
he can't legally release anything in america.
Theseventhson
01/06/10, 01:58 PM
Why not?
briewer
01/06/10, 02:15 PM
Why not?
Some fucked up shit with an old manager. He basically signed away the rights to his own music.
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 02:20 PM
he's on warped this year. how excellent.
xJesusFreakx
01/06/10, 02:21 PM
Is he on the whole tour? If I end up going, he'll probably be my first priority to see.
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 02:26 PM
link to tihs record label situation? i didnt see anything about it on wikipedia
shit stroll
01/06/10, 02:26 PM
Some fucked up shit with an old manager. He basically signed away the rights to his own music.
couldn't he release music under a different name?
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 02:28 PM
Is he on the whole tour? If I end up going, he'll probably be my first priority to see.
yeah he is. i honestly plan on getting so fucking drunk i dont know where i am for his show. and i dont EVER drink during shows, i feel it takes away from the show.
but not andrew wk. im gonna party til i puke.
stupidtyonparad
01/06/10, 02:38 PM
correction, the wikipedia article mentions it, but it kinda seems like hes found a way around it
briewer
01/06/10, 02:51 PM
couldn't he release music under a different name?
Not sure. I read it on wikipedia, so it doesn't go that far in depth on the situation, but it says that he gave him the rights to his name and music.
Dan Hulud
01/06/10, 02:52 PM
Worst news ever
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 12:03 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Close-Calls-Brick-Mother-Mankind/dp/B0032BCJBM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262825130&sr=8-2
no american date yet.
but the label: steev mike. ugh.
anthonydarko
01/07/10, 12:30 PM
I STILL don't understand. He's just taken over for the old Andrew WK?
EDIT:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2010/01/500x_custom_1262641433257_andrew.jp g
It's the same guy it's always been, whoever created the picture didn't do his damn homework.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 12:33 PM
It's the same guy it's always been, whoever created the picture didn't do his damn homework.
you obviously didnt watch the video where he says flat out that hes the 2nd guy to play andrew wk did you?
anthonydarko
01/07/10, 12:39 PM
you obviously didnt watch the video where he says flat out that hes the 2nd guy to play andrew wk did you?
Or maybe I already know the actual story while you babbled on and on about there being two different people. He has always been Andrew W.K, he was playing a character in the I Get Wet days that was not him and the Andrew W.K we are seeing now is the real Andrew W.K, I don't see how you could not get that.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 01:43 PM
Or maybe I already know the actual story while you babbled on and on about there being two different people. He has always been Andrew W.K, he was playing a character in the I Get Wet days that was not him and the Andrew W.K we are seeing now is the real Andrew W.K, I don't see how you could not get that.
how do you know the actual story when no one knows the whole story? i think theres a lot more to it than that, and unless you can give me sufficient proof, i'm going to keep believing that until his Q&A about the whole thing in february
anthonydarko
01/07/10, 02:19 PM
how do you know the actual story when no one knows the whole story? i think theres a lot more to it than that, and unless you can give me sufficient proof, i'm going to keep believing that until his Q&A about the whole thing in february
Here's Andrew from his I Get Wet days:
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/awk11-550x365.jpg
Notice the tattoo on his right arm. Now here's the cover from his Close Calls album:
http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/andrew-wk-close-calls-with-361810.jpg
See the tattoo on his right arm? Same guy, same face. Seriously this whole thing is just as stupid and wrong as the Paul is Dead theory that's been going on for about 40 years now. The guy has always have been and will be Andrew W.K, it's his actually legal name, it's not like his real name is Larry Smith and he was a lumberjack from Canada until a shadow conspiracy group funded by the government hand picked him to revive rock music as we know it. As it's been said before, the Andrew W.K now is not the character that we got introduced to back at the beginning of the last decade, this is the real him. You can come back saying, "AWWW THATZ NOT LEGIT PROOF, ANDREW'S NOT REALZ LOLZ!!", I've made my case and I'm standing by it.
shit stroll
01/07/10, 03:23 PM
It's the same guy it's always been, whoever created the picture didn't do his damn homework.
Or maybe I already know the actual story while you babbled on and on about there being two different people. He has always been Andrew W.K, he was playing a character in the I Get Wet days that was not him and the Andrew W.K we are seeing now is the real Andrew W.K, I don't see how you could not get that.
“I’m not the guy you’ve seen from the I Get Wet album… I’m not that same person. I don’t just mean that in a philosophical or conceptual way. It’s not the same person at all.”
anthonydarko
01/07/10, 03:34 PM
“I’m not the guy you’ve seen from the I Get Wet album… I’m not that same person. I don’t just mean that in a philosophical or conceptual way. It’s not the same person at all.”
So you're saying you've ruled out the idea that he was perhaps joking and trying to stir up some press for himself?
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 04:46 PM
well if he was trying to stir up press, he failed. cause that video was from september 2008. and it didnt get any recognition till december 2009.
im sorry, but i think your point is null and void, especially considering the way hes reacting to all these claims. if it was just his words being taken out of context, he wouldnt be posting huge blogs or response videos, and he wouldnt be holding a Q&A about his past
anthonydarko
01/07/10, 04:50 PM
well if he was trying to stir up press, he failed. cause that video was from september 2008. and it didnt get any recognition till december 2009.
im sorry, but i think your point is null and void, especially considering the way hes reacting to all these claims. if it was just his words being taken out of context, he wouldnt be posting huge blogs or response videos, and he wouldnt be holding a Q&A about his past
Think what you will, we'll see what is right or wrong come February.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 04:52 PM
yes we will. i hope im wrong.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 05:05 PM
according to his twitter:
No one guessed it! Later tonight I'm dropping a huge water balloon from the top of a NYC high-rise (don't worry, I have permission). PARTY! 18 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/AndrewWK/status/7498846861)from web
Burn That Shit
01/07/10, 06:06 PM
permission to party: granted.
concernedparent
01/07/10, 09:09 PM
I think that people are misinterpreting what he said. He's already addressed this with a blog entry today. He's real.
Oh come on, you seriously believe that? Did you even watch him talk about how he wasn't real? He said very specifically: "A committee of people created Andrew W.K. and I originally wasn't casted to play the character. I'm not the same person who originally played Andrew W.K. back on the "I Get Wet" album."
concernedparent
01/07/10, 09:11 PM
I remember reading about this a couple of years ago and being majorily confused, but this isn't that confusing. He used to be a noise musician (his first two eps/albums were in that vein, he played in Wolf Eyes, etc) and his friends from the Michigan scene, i.e. founder of bulb records, his dad, himself, various others, made up the ultimate frontman that would accept everyone since he felt alienated at hardcore shows even though it was supposed to be an environment of acceptance. So he got signed to Island, released I Get Wet, became a star and all that. Then when he convinced Island to let him try something he liked, he released The Wolf and it was universally panned. Then he was stuck in a situation were he had to basically do what Island wanted him too since the act is Andrew W.K., but because it's his own real names he's been releasing all the weird shit he wants to make, but can't put out here and be commericially viable, he does this in countries like South Korea, UK, etc. But he's still a dude that likes to party and all that, it's just kind of a shitty situation for him. Basically just comes down to label woes.
Andrew W.K. is the best, I hope he gets everything figured out, he's doing a huge Q&A about the whole thing in NY pretty soon so there will be some more stuff figured out there
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to everyone who still believes Andrew W.K. is one person...
in what universe are these the same people? They're not. Clearly two different people playing Andrew W.K.
SophGod
01/07/10, 09:11 PM
i seriously am so lost with this whole thing. honestly, i have no idea what's going on.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 09:18 PM
that video worries me. i wonder if theyve replaced the current one now that all this bullshit has happened. i hope not.
Andrew W.K. is one person, there is no substantial proof saying he's two actors, besides, having two people would be such a far-out there thing. He's one dude, theres proof to back this up, i.e. people that knew him before he was famous and all that, he just has those two distinct looks because at one point he lost a bunch of weight and got clean shaven. It's not that hard of a concept to understand.
eraserhead
01/07/10, 09:45 PM
lol this is some fucked up shit.
Burn That Shit
01/07/10, 09:50 PM
someone has had to have brought this up already, but what would be the fucking motive in all this 2 w.k. conspiracy shit? it's not like he's a platinum selling artist.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 10:03 PM
ehh theres a huge market. hes a crossover artist. hes huge overseas, hes a tv personality, a public speaker. i mean, not a huge cash grab in any of the catagories but im sure combined....cash. and the first guy probably wanted out.
shit stroll
01/07/10, 10:14 PM
ehh theres a huge market. hes a crossover artist. hes huge overseas, hes a tv personality, a public speaker. i mean, not a huge cash grab in any of the catagories but im sure combined....cash. and the first guy probably wanted out.
haha. i highly doubt his label is making that much money off him. i mean sure for us it's a lot but for them is probably chump change.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 10:18 PM
its not a label though. if you watched the video, its a corporation. its a group of people. and i dont think its a very large corporation at that. from what i researched, his dad is one of the big guys in it, so....
i dont know. its all fucking confusing.
Chromefox
01/07/10, 10:19 PM
...Someone definitely would have noticed the difference long before now.
stupidtyonparad
01/07/10, 10:22 PM
...Someone definitely would have noticed the difference long before now.
people have. if you research it at all (which i spent all of my tuesday night doing) people have been all over this thing sense he blew up in 2001. 2005 was a big year too, thats when a lot of shit hit the fan. its been going on for a while
Chromefox
01/07/10, 10:23 PM
people have. if you research it at all (which i spent all of my tuesday night doing) people have been all over this thing sense he blew up in 2001. 2005 was a big year too, thats when a lot of shit hit the fan. its been going on for a while Yeah, people also think Ciara used to be a man.
x togepi x
01/08/10, 01:33 AM
people have. if you research it at all (which i spent all of my tuesday night doing) people have been all over this thing sense he blew up in 2001. 2005 was a big year too, thats when a lot of shit hit the fan. its been going on for a while
if you researched it at all then you'd know most of these conspiracies are from his friends. like a lot of the websites pointing out how he's a different person were made by people he pals around with.
i only care about/wonder how much of his persona is really him and how much of it is his ultimate frontman carefully constructed corporate character.
to everyone who still believes Andrew W.K. is one person...
in what universe are these the same people? They're not. Clearly two different people playing Andrew W.K.
That is 100% the same man who was on Rockfeedback a few weeks ago who said the whole "committee" thing.
By the way, Jay-Z is a freemason, the government planned 9/11, and Lady GaGa has TWO cocks.
stupidtyonparad
01/08/10, 10:34 AM
she has two!?!?!!??!! holy fuck. so is bilderberg fake too?!?!
i wish people could stop to consider something that isnt whats fed to them once and a while.
and as far as the "oh the sites were his friends" thing, some were, some werent. but a lot of the ones from people associated with him were hate-mail and threats. i think he pissed a lot of people off somehow.
x togepi x
01/08/10, 10:42 AM
or....people on the internet just like talking shit and threatening people because it's funny. besides, how do you know the ones with threats and hate mail weren't his friends?
stupidtyonparad
01/08/10, 10:59 AM
who really knows. time will tell i guess
concernedparent
01/08/10, 12:05 PM
That is 100% the same man who was on Rockfeedback a few weeks ago who said the whole "committee" thing.
By the way, Jay-Z is a freemason, the government planned 9/11, and Lady GaGa has TWO cocks.
That's right, that is the new guy that's playing Andrew W.K. However, the person in the other video I quoted was clearly a different person. I like how you're making me out to like a conspiracy theorist here. You're clearly the person believing in a conspiracy by a) not believing what Andrew W.K. directly said, and b) failing to acknowledge that two different people are two different people.
That's right, that is the new guy that's playing Andrew W.K. However, the person in the other video I quoted was clearly a different person. I like how you're making me out to like a conspiracy theorist here. You're clearly the person believing in a conspiracy by a) not believing what Andrew W.K. directly said, and b) failing to acknowledge that two different people are two different people.
...Even though he said that he was "forced to say that stuff" and again confirmed his reality, as well as asking his friends/fans to stick by him until his Q&A session in Feb.
I'm confused though...you think the guy in that blurry video and the guy on the news interview are different? Absolutely not. I'm done with this until his Q&A, but my final stance is that the same human being portrayed AWK forever and that different people had different levels of influence on the character over the years. We'll see.
stupidtyonparad
01/11/10, 08:59 PM
i found this quote of him describing his last album, the piano record. i think the end is rather relevant.
"I wanted this new 55 CADILLAC album to sound like freedom. The sound of a piano being played by a free man – nothing more, nothing less. This was the first chance in almost 10 years where I was allowed to simply play and record an instrument – no songwriters, no lyrics to learn, no overdubs, no slow fixes, no remixes, no video shoots or interview practice – just the sound of someone sitting in room playing piano for the sake of it. No one telling me what to play, or how to play it. And no masterplans, high-concept visions, worldwide goals with roll-out schedules. No style consultants or acting coaches. No more meetings with sponsors or computerized yelling. No more threats."
stupidtyonparad
01/11/10, 09:08 PM
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also, havent read this yet, im about to, apparnetly he talks a lot about it:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/garbage-day/andrew-wk-real.php?page=1
EDIT: nevermind. only the very first question, and he doesnt give a specific answer, he dances around it. what the fuck.
and his new albums IS up for preorder in the US.
stupidtyonparad
01/15/10, 04:02 PM
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I love the guy's music and message haha, I pre-ordered the double album that comes out in February.
I'm still not sure if he's the same person, but I would like to believe it's been the same guy for all these years; either way, his music has been some of the most positive stuff to be out in a long while. I really could care less if it's just a character or not. He's been one of the most interesting/entertaining characters in the music business, in my opinion.
stupidtyonparad
02/23/10, 09:43 PM
andrew wk's twitter.
The public Q&A was a disaster. I'm trying to pull it together. I'm sorry to everyone. Thank you!
i hope some video surfaces.
andrew wk's twitter.
The public Q&A was a disaster. I'm trying to pull it together. I'm sorry to everyone. Thank you!
i hope some video surfaces.
Wow, wtf.
I hope some video surfaces, too.
stupidtyonparad
02/24/10, 11:23 AM
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2010/02/people_asked_an.html
Thesleepingwell
02/24/10, 12:15 PM
I compared someone at work to him.
So after all, he doesn't party hard.
Oh well.
Burn That Shit
02/24/10, 12:58 PM
man, that just looks so awkward. i honestly can't tell if it's a stunt or not.
stupidtyonparad
02/24/10, 02:05 PM
I compared someone at work to him.
So after all, he doesn't party hard.
Oh well.
no....no he doesn't. instead he flexes and cracks under pressure and bumbles his words to the point of illegitimacy, and ends up sounding like he basically was reading off of a script for part of it.
xohalezz
02/24/10, 03:40 PM
this is interesting stuff. i think he's just a person reinventing the way he does his music.
but hey... regardless.. in the words of Andrew W.K.
WE WANT FUN AND WE WANT TO GET WASTED.
x togepi x
02/24/10, 03:48 PM
i'm pretty sure he was reading off a script for the lulz and not as if that was his real answer.
stupidtyonparad
02/24/10, 03:58 PM
i'm pretty sure he was reading off a script for the lulz and not as if that was his real answer.
i think he was reading off a script because he panicked and didn't want a ton of dead air
x togepi x
02/24/10, 04:09 PM
i think he was reading off a script because he panicked and didn't want a ton of dead air
why do you think he panicked?
stupidtyonparad
02/24/10, 04:11 PM
cause he cant answer the question. he's said it so many times. "i can only say so much about this, and theres so much i cant talk about at all"
and i think it was getting towards the end of the thing, and he was in his comfort zone cause no one has asked about it, and thought he was home free.
either that or it was all set up.
x togepi x
02/24/10, 04:54 PM
cause he cant answer the question. he's said it so many times. "i can only say so much about this, and theres so much i cant talk about at all"
and i think it was getting towards the end of the thing, and he was in his comfort zone cause no one has asked about it, and thought he was home free.
either that or it was all set up.
it was all set up.
There's no way he wouldn't have been preparing to answer that question since it is the root of the whole thing.
stupidtyonparad
02/24/10, 05:29 PM
yeah, but he addressed that, saying it had been a few months sense evferything and he thought it had blown over.
the only thing that i think was set up was that it was the very last question. kinda odd how it worked that way.
stupidtyonparad
02/24/10, 05:42 PM
i'm watching his show on cartoon network right now for the first time, and it's seriously so ridiculous.
I read a play by play of the Q and A on MetalSucks last night; it sounded fairly retarded. He's turned himself into such a gimmick. I still dig the music, but I can't really take him seriously otherwise anymore...
I didn't look at the link you guys posted yet, but not sure if I even want to.
Burn That Shit
03/04/10, 11:45 AM
daytrotter session is legit, never heard anything of his except stuff from i get wet.
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