Google (Official Thread)

[Jason Tate]

With the announcement of Nexus One (http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/) today at CES (http://www.engadget.com/ces), thought it was worth having a Google thread. All things google.

[bard]

in entertainment?

either way, i'm wanting to get the motorola droid. if only verizon would lower their online plans.

[Jason Tate]

in entertainment?

either way, i'm wanting to get the motorola droid. if only verizon would lower their online plans.
No, in Music. Clearly you're in the wrong spot.

[bard]

No, in Music. Clearly you're in the wrong spot.
what? you posted a google thread in the entertainment subforum?

i just figured that if there is a google thread, it would go in the general subforum. unless this subforum includes tech, then okay.

[popdisaster00]

Nice

[Deadbolt23]

what? you posted a google thread in the entertainment subforum?

i just figured that if there is a google thread, it would go in the general subforum. unless this subforum includes tech, then okay.

This makes sense.

[IAmNietzche]

I love Chrome.

[bard]

i'm really lost in this thread.

[Jason Tate]

what? you posted a google thread in the entertainment subforum?

i just figured that if there is a google thread, it would go in the general subforum. unless this subforum includes tech, then okay.
Why would it go in general? This forum has always covered tech (video games, apple (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=263400&highlight=apple), iphone (http://www.absolutepunk.net/search.php?searchid=34592781), etc.).

Stop trolling my posts, it's getting irritating. Do you really not think I know what I'm doing?

[Jason Tate]

i'm really lost in this thread.
Then leave. My fucking word.

[bard]

Why would it go in general? This forum has always covered tech (video games, apple (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=263400&highlight=apple), iphone (http://www.absolutepunk.net/search.php?searchid=34592781), etc.).

Stop trolling my posts, it's getting irritating. Do you really not think I know what I'm doing?
i'm not trolling. i frequent the office thread and posted in there. i also frequent the entertainment subforum, and like google, so i commented. i'm just respoding to posts you quoted me on.

either way, i made a post about the droid, so i'll move on from this one.

does anyone have a droid? or the eris? comments? any good?

[Jason Tate]

I love Chrome.
Firefox is still my browser of choice. But Chrome has some nice features that (when combined with FF) is making IE absolutely obsolete.

[4N6 science]

I was thinking of trying out Chrome the other day. But I love firefox, is it worth a download?

[Jason Tate]

I was thinking of trying out Chrome the other day. But I love firefox, is it worth a download?
The WYSIQYG editor on AP doesn't work. It's got a few under the hood things that bug me. But it's a clean, efficient browser. Good UI design.

[bard]

chrome is a very good browser, and i'm sure it will only get better. it's probably the fastest browser out there, but FF just has the best addons/features/etc...

i'd recommend trying it at least.

[WakingTheMisery]

Chrome ruined my Firefox without me knowing it.

[4N6 science]

The WYSIQYG editor on AP doesn't work. It's got a few under the hood things that bug me. But it's a clean, efficient browser. Good UI design.

Alright I'll give it a whirl. Thanks.

[williek311]

The WYSIQYG editor on AP doesn't work. It's got a few under the hood things that bug me. But it's a clean, efficient browser. Good UI design.

What does WYSIQYG stand for?

[Jason Tate]

What does WYSIQYG stand for?
what you see is what you get.

IE: when you bold a word, it looks bold in the box -- and not with the code around it.

[WhitestKidUKnow]

just downloaded chrome. it's pretty nice so far.

[WhitestKidUKnow]

Chrome ruined my Firefox without me knowing it.

how?

[HomeComing]

I heard Google has sweat shops and beats their employees. Confirm?

[NikFinn]

I generally trust Engadget and after reading their review, I'm not entirely impressed. It looks like the hype on this phone was higher than what it will be. Review is
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/

[bard]

I heard Google has sweat shops and beats their employees. Confirm?
they're #4 on the fortune 500 as best companies to work for.

[Deadbolt23]

Why would it go in general? This forum has always covered tech (video games, apple (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=263400&highlight=apple), iphone (http://www.absolutepunk.net/search.php?searchid=34592781), etc.).

Stop trolling my posts, it's getting irritating. Do you really not think I know what I'm doing?

You make me laugh.

[Anton Djamoos]

Firefox is still my browser of choice. But Chrome has some nice features that (when combined with FF) is making IE absolutely obsolete.
IE is such a horrendous browser. I mean, IE8 is a vast improvement over IE7 (feels archaic if you go back to it today), but it has nothing on FF3.5 and Chrome. I mostly use FF but if I have to use another browser, it's always Chrome. Chrome is definitely faster, but Firefox has better usability.

[WakingTheMisery]

how?

If I knew, it wouldn't be screwed up. Three computers give me errors every time I open it.

[Jason Tate]

You make me laugh.
Go me.

[Anton Djamoos]

I generally trust Engadget and after reading their review, I'm not entirely impressed. It looks like the hype on this phone was higher than what it will be. Review is
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/

The fact that it's a T Mobile phone should get people to stay away.

[NikFinn]

For now, FF is my browser of choice. No extensions on Chrome for mac yet because it's in beta. Don't think I could live without ABP. Best extension by far.

[NikFinn]

The fact that it's a T Mobile phone should get people to stay away.
Haha. Yeah, AT&T isn't that much better for most though. I've had an iPhone since gen 1 and have never really had a problem with AT&T but I hardly ever use it to make calls.

[Jason Tate]

I heard Google has sweat shops and beats their employees. Confirm?
:eyebrow:

I generally trust Engadget and after reading their review, I'm not entirely impressed. It looks like the hype on this phone was higher than what it will be. Review is
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/

Seems like a good form factor phone, with a good OS. However, until Android does a few more things - I don't see it as being the reason to make any switch. (I'm a blackberry user.) It needs to set itself apart with their OS, and they haven't yet. I'm keeping an eye on what they do ... and the new 1ghz Snapdragon under the hood has me thinking about what they COULD do in the future. But until then ... no reason for me to pony up any $$ for a switch.

IE is such a horrendous browser. I mean, IE8 is a vast improvement over IE7 (feels archaic if you go back to it today), but it has nothing on FF3.5 and Chrome. I mostly use FF but if I have to use another browser, it's always Chrome. Chrome is definitely faster, but Firefox has better usability.
Seriously. I wish it would go away and I could just design for the other 2. It drives me absolutely crazy. 7 is so bad it's not even funny. Which is why I get annoyed when I see any %% of our users viewing our site in it. It looks like shit. I don't know how they browse the web on that. Especially when something soooooo much better is available. For free. Just download it.

Of course I don't get people with super low resolutions either. Heh.

I agree with the speed/usability statements. I love how customized I have FF to do just what I want. I'm not big on the blue hue Chrome has -- but love how much screen real estate it gives.

[Jason Tate]

The fact that it's a T Mobile phone should get people to stay away.
I have T-mobile. Worst customer service of all time. Good coverage and price plans though. Would rather use them than AT&T given the choice.

[NikFinn]

:eyebrow:


Seems like a good form factor phone, with a good OS. However, until Android does a few more things - I don't see it as being the reason to make any switch. (I'm a blackberry user.) It needs to set itself apart with their OS, and they haven't yet. I'm keeping an eye on what they do ... and the new 1ghz Snapdragon under the hood has me thinking about what they COULD do in the future. But until then ... no reason for me to pony up any $$ for a switch.



Yeah exactly. I'm an iPhone user myself and andorid has nothing to offer me thus far. I still wonder why the HD2 (massive screen, snap dragon) runs WinMo. Coulda been a stellar android device based on the hardware.

[EvilZeppelin]

I love my Droid... I made the switch from the iPhone to it because AT&T and its bare 3G coverage and HORRIBLE customer service. Google Chrome is a WONDERFUL browsers they caught my interest in the OS they are doing for computers.

[JayBee420]

Man I dont know shit. lol.

[NikFinn]

I love my Droid... and Chrome. I am interested in the OS they are doing on computers.
I played with the droid and it seemed pretty nice. But I could never go back to a physical keyboard on a phone.

[sleepyseanzzz]

they're #4 on the fortune 500 as best companies to work for.

j6h-gm01Fb0

[perceptrons]

Liveblogs of the Google event:

Gizmodo's (http://live.gizmodo.com/) and Engadget's (http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/live-from-googles-android-press-conference/?sort=newest&refresh=30).

[Anton Djamoos]

I have T-mobile. Worst customer service of all time. Good coverage and price plans though. Would rather use them than AT&T given the choice.
Did Catherine Zeta-Jones visit your house?

[Jason Tate]

Did Catherine Zeta-Jones visit your house?
Would rather she did than Luke Wilson.

[Jason Tate]

I played with the droid and it seemed pretty nice. But I could never go back to a physical keyboard on a phone.
And I will never own one without one.

[EvilZeppelin]

Did Catherine Zeta-Jones visit your house?

hahaha. AT&T has the worst customer service. (http://www.phoneplusmag.com/hotnews/survey--at-t-worst-in-customer-service.html)

[NikFinn]

"Where web meets phone"

hmmm

[Anton Djamoos]

Would rather she did than Luke Wilson.
Those commercials are so bad. They're touting being able to talk on the phone and surf the Internet at the same time now. Is that really something that people are clamoring for?

"You know what would make talking on the phone SO much better? Being distracted by the Internet!"

[NikFinn]

Those commercials are so bad. They're touting being able to talk on the phone and surf the Internet at the same time now. Is that really something that people are clamoring for?

"You know what would make talking on the phone SO much better? Being distracted by the Internet!"
Haha. While you're right that most people wouldn't pick a network just because of that, it is cool and handy.

[NikFinn]

$529 outright
$179 on contract with Tmobile
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en_US&s7e=

[NikFinn]

And it's comnig on verizon in the spring

[Inc.onsolable]

Google is a BEAST!

But I've read that the Nxs1 won't really beat out the droid which is good news for me at least (I'm sure the droid can take any updates to the Android OS) and besides...gotta have a physical keyboard!

JM2C

[Jason Tate]

Those commercials are so bad. They're touting being able to talk on the phone and surf the Internet at the same time now. Is that really something that people are clamoring for?

"You know what would make talking on the phone SO much better? Being distracted by the Internet!"
:lol:

[theguilt engine]

The WYSIQYG editor on AP doesn't work. It's got a few under the hood things that bug me. But it's a clean, efficient browser. Good UI design.
Developing for the web is getting exciting, but frustrating. IE is extremely frustrating. I'd say we spend 20% of development time at our company to cater to Internet Explorer. When Microsoft released Internet Explorer 7, they pushed it out as a recommended security update. That alone tells us how eager they were to get Internet Explorer 6 off the market...and now with IE8, it two levels of Hell.

But, I'm definitely sticking with Chrome. Google is great with UI. They learned a long time ago that less is more.

[bard]

wow, nexus one on verizon... this will be an entertaining year to see what happens in the smartphone business/market share.

[TheProsAndCons]

Something I've always wondered, how do Google make all the money that they do?
Surley they can't generate that much money from ad revenue? X-)

[Jason Tate]

Developing for the web is getting exciting, but frustrating. IE is extremely frustrating. I'd say we spend 20% of development time at our company to cater to Internet Explorer. When Microsoft released Internet Explorer 7, they pushed it out as a recommended security update. That alone tells us how eager they were to get Internet Explorer 6 off the market...and now with IE8, it two levels of Hell.

But, I'm definitely sticking with Chrome. Google is great with UI. They learned a long time ago that less is more.
I'm with you on that. On all accounts.

[Inc.onsolable]

i'm not trolling. i frequent the office thread and posted in there. i also frequent the entertainment subforum, and like google, so i commented. i'm just respoding to posts you quoted me on.

either way, i made a post about the droid, so i'll move on from this one.

does anyone have a droid? or the eris? comments? any good?

I've a droid. LOVE IT! Best phone out there by far. Although the iPhone may have far better games in it's app store the Android Market is slowly catching up. But all other apps are terrific! Document apps, Google Voice, Google Goggles, Gmail, Web Browsers, News apps, and social networking apps are all pretty sweet and have a solid UI.

[Jason Tate]

Something I've always wondered, how do Google make all the money that they do?
Surley they can't generate that much money from ad revenue? X-)
http://investor.google.com/fin_data.html

[bard]

Something I've always wondered, how do Google make all the money that they do?
Surley they can't generate that much money from ad revenue? X-)
http://www.dailycommonsense.com/how-does-google-make-money/

first result, on google obviously.

[Anton Djamoos]

:lol:
That's really the best they could do in response to the "There's a Map for That" ads? For shame, AT&T.

[perceptrons]

Something I've always wondered, how do Google make all the money that they do?
Surley they can't generate that much money from ad revenue? X-)
It's more complicated than just "ad revenue," but yes, searching/ads is their money maker.

[Inc.onsolable]

Developing for the web is getting exciting, but frustrating. IE is extremely frustrating. I'd say we spend 20% of development time at our company to cater to Internet Explorer. When Microsoft released Internet Explorer 7, they pushed it out as a recommended security update. That alone tells us how eager they were to get Internet Explorer 6 off the market...and now with IE8, it two levels of Hell.

But, I'm definitely sticking with Chrome. Google is great with UI. They learned a long time ago that less is more.

:thumbup:

[Anton Djamoos]

Developing for the web is getting exciting, but frustrating. IE is extremely frustrating. I'd say we spend 20% of development time at our company to cater to Internet Explorer. When Microsoft released Internet Explorer 7, they pushed it out as a recommended security update. That alone tells us how eager they were to get Internet Explorer 6 off the market...and now with IE8, it two levels of Hell.

But, I'm definitely sticking with Chrome. Google is great with UI. They learned a long time ago that less is more.
Think IE7 is bad? Try still supporting IE6.

[perceptrons]

I hate that the iPhone is on AT&T, it blocks us from all other good phones.

[NikFinn]

Android may be expanding but Apple is selling over 120,000 Apps every minute. That's absurd.

[Jason Tate]

That's really the best they could do in response to the "There's a Map for That" ads? For shame, AT&T.
Yeah, was really disappointed in their "response."

They're lucky Apple has such a strong brand. That's the selling point: We have the iPhone. Want to be cool when you pull it out of your pocket? You're stuck with us.

[Jason Tate]

Think IE7 is bad? Try still supporting IE6.
You guys should stop.

I think almost all sites are now ... youtube kicked it out (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/youtube-will-be-next-to-kiss-ie6-support-goodbye/).

[theguilt engine]

Think IE7 is bad? Try still supporting IE6.
Oh, we do. And it's galling.

[Jason Tate]

Android may be expanding but Apple is selling over 120,000 Apps every minute. That's absurd.
Unsure how the math works out on that from how many handsets are (reported) out there. Are people just downloading worthless apps and spending money on them ... cause they can?

[perceptrons]

Android may be expanding but Apple is selling over 120,000 Apps every minute. That's absurd.
Apple will never win in the end with its business model. In the end it will be just like Microsoft and Apple on the computer front.

[theguilt engine]

That Nexus One is going to amazing. Im excited to see it in person.

[Jason Tate]

Apple will never win in the end with its business model. In the end it will be just like Microsoft and Apple on the computer front.
They still have control over their hardware (and brand). The business model works until someone builds a better mouse trap and markets it effectively. The Apple brand sells.

[NikFinn]

Unsure how the math works out on that from how many handsets are (reported) out there. Are people just downloading worthless apps and spending money on them ... cause they can?
http://gizmodo.com/5440432/apple-now-selling-350-apps-per-second
They sold one billion apps since sept 28h. And I would guess. I always download random little things in the app store.
Apple will never win in the end with its business model. In the end it will be just like Microsoft and Apple on the computer front.
I'm not sure if I completely agree. Both are big players especially with WinMo in the business sector.

[TheProsAndCons]

http://investor.google.com/fin_data.html

Seems like it's been a pretty good year for google so far haha

http://www.dailycommonsense.com/how-does-google-make-money/

first result, on google obviously.
It's more complicated than just "ad revenue," but yes, searching/ads is their money maker.

"Google doesn’t sell any tangible product and that’s the beauty of their business. They sell something that doesn’t really exist. They really sell traffic. It mostly comes down to this: They get paid for sending traffic to other websites "

All I can say is, wish I taught of that hahaha

[lightcollapse]

Nexus One to Verizon in the spring?! WORD.

[poppa Q]

Firefox was fucking up on me, made the switch to Chrome, I love it. No problems since.

[Jason Tate]

http://gizmodo.com/5440432/apple-now-selling-350-apps-per-second
They sold one billion apps since sept 28h. And I would guess. I always download random little things in the app store.

I'm not sure if I completely agree. Both are big players especially with WinMo in the business sector.
Those numbers are like the "10 people die from AIDS every second" -- they really don't mean that much without looking at the internals. And I have no idea why people would pay to download random things. I would never pay for an application the web can do for free. What are you buying that you need?

[NikFinn]

They still have control over their hardware (and brand). The business model works until someone builds a better mouse trap and markets it effectively. The Apple brand sells.
Exactly. I love Apple, but if someone else builds a better phone with better software, I'll gladly buy it. Everyday more and more companies are making great apps for the iPhone because they know they can profit. I really think that the apps can make the phone.

[Jason Tate]

Exactly. I love Apple, but if someone else builds a better phone with better software, I'll gladly buy it. Everyday more and more companies are making great apps for the iPhone because they know they can profit. I really think that the apps can make the phone.
As we've seen with more "app like stores" (using Facebook as a reference) -- the top 100 or so apps do REALLY well, the rest don't do shit. So, I don't think the apps mean much (as most smart developers will port them to all phones anyway).

[NikFinn]

Those numbers are like the "10 people die from AIDS every second" -- they really don't mean that much without looking at the internals. And I have no idea why people would pay to download random things. I would never pay for an application the web can do for free. What are you buying that you need?
Of course it's like that because gizmodo just did some simple math. I also don't pay for a majority of the apps. A lot are free on the app store, which of course doesn't always generate revenue, but I've bought things like FIFA 10, Crash Kart, Tweetie (twitter client), and a few other games. I'd probably buy more if I wasn't a poor college student. The good thing is most apps are cheap (<$10).

[NikFinn]

As we've seen with more "app like stores" (using Facebook as a reference) -- the top 100 or so apps do REALLY well, the rest don't do shit. So, I don't think the apps mean much (as most smart developers will port them to all phones anyway).
I def agree with you there, I always check the top 25 on the app store to see what's being downloaded and maybe make an impulse buy. Other than that i'll only search if I'm looking for something specific that I might have seen on a blog or an ad or something. But I still think apps are important. I can't remember what it was like to have an iPhone without the app store.

[TheProsAndCons]

Exactly. I love Apple, but if someone else builds a better phone with better software, I'll gladly buy it. Everyday more and more companies are making great apps for the iPhone because they know they can profit. I really think that the apps can make the phone.

If Apple improved on the shitty battery life for apps/browsing I'd def stay with the forever, but untill then, meh

[theguilt engine]

Those numbers are like the "10 people die from AIDS every second" -- they really don't mean that much without looking at the internals. And I have no idea why people would pay to download random things. I would never pay for an application the web can do for free. What are you buying that you need?
Yeah, exactly. I've never paid for an iPhone app.

[Jason Tate]

Yeah, exactly. I've never paid for an iPhone app.
And I've never paid for a BB app. I just don't see any reason for it. I want the companies to improve the networks and the browsing speeds. Give me tabbed browsing. More memory. Things like that.

That means more to me than an app store. Although, the rumors that Spotify may become the official Android music player make me wet.

[popdisaster00]

Anyone know when Google is launching their e-book service?

[NikFinn]

If Apple improved on the shitty battery life for apps/browsing I'd def stay with the forever, but untill then, meh
June/July always brings nice phones :p

[Jason Tate]

Anyone know when Google is launching their e-book service?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/technology/internet/01google.html

Last I saw was a mention in May.

[NikFinn]

And I've never paid for a BB app. I just don't see any reason for it. I want the companies to improve the networks and the browsing speeds. Give me tabbed browsing. More memory. Things like that.

That means more to me than an app store. Although, the rumors that Spotify may become the official Android music player make me wet.
BB doesn't have tabbed browsing? :shrug: which one do you have?


Anything is better than the regular android media player...

[popdisaster00]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/technology/internet/01google.html

Last I saw was a mention in May.
Interesting. I wonder how they'll compete with Kindle as far as a reader goes.

[theguilt engine]

And I've never paid for a BB app. I just don't see any reason for it. I want the companies to improve the networks and the browsing speeds. Give me tabbed browsing. More memory. Things like that.

That means more to me than an app store. Although, the rumors that Spotify may become the official Android music player make me wet.
Have you had a chance to use Spotify? I've just recently heard of it.

[TheProsAndCons]

June/July always brings nice phones :p

haha hope so :-)

[Jason Tate]

Interesting. I wonder how they'll compete with Kindle as far as a reader goes.
I think they're using a version of the Android OS on third party hardware.

[Jason Tate]

Have you had a chance to use Spotify? I've just recently heard of it.
Just reading/videos ... not in person yet.

[Jason Tate]

BB doesn't have tabbed browsing? :shrug: which one do you have?


Anything is better than the regular android media player...
The BB browser sucks. I use opera mini. Which actually just launched tabbed browsing apparently.

http://www.opera.com/mini/next/

Which I didn't know.

[Anton Djamoos]

Those numbers are like the "10 people die from AIDS every second" -- they really don't mean that much without looking at the internals. And I have no idea why people would pay to download random things. I would never pay for an application the web can do for free. What are you buying that you need?
But now I can make it look like I'm drinking beer from my iPhone!!!

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ibeer.jpg

[NikFinn]

But now I can make it look like I'm drinking beer from my iPhone!!!


Sadly I know people that download these things. And those 99c fart apps...

[Jason Tate]

But now I can make it look like I'm drinking beer from my iPhone!!!

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ibeer.jpg
Yeah. It's only a matter of time until the frat boys ruin the cool nerdy chic geek thing Apple has going for it.

[lastchancegdbye]

Firefox is still my browser of choice. But Chrome has some nice features that (when combined with FF) is making IE absolutely obsolete.

mine as well, if Chrome would had add-ons like Firefox does I might switch over.

[Anton Djamoos]

Yeah. It's only a matter of time until the frat boys ruin the cool nerdy chic geek thing Apple has going for it.
I thought of a good iPhone app once. It's called Click'd. It's just a button on a screen that you keep pressing and there's leaderboards for most clicks overall/per hour/total in an hour/etc. It'd be $1 and a ton of people would buy it I bet.

[NikFinn]

I thought of a good iPhone app once. It's called Click'd. It's just a button on a screen that you keep pressing and there's leaderboards for most clicks overall/per hour/total in an hour/etc. It'd be $1 and a ton of people would buy it I bet.
I think i remember reading about something like this buy you had to see how long you could hold the button down. People will buy anything especially if it's only $1.

[Jason Tate]

I thought of a good iPhone app once. It's called Click'd. It's just a button on a screen that you keep pressing and there's leaderboards for most clicks overall/per hour/total in an hour/etc. It'd be $1 and a ton of people would buy it I bet.
:lol:

If I could program iPhone apps - I'd make it and we could split the profits.

[NikFinn]

Jason, idk if there is an Apple thread, but if not will there be one for the rumored event in the end of January?

[NikFinn]

Another great app...
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/05/app-warms-your-hands-by-overheating-your-iphone/

[Anton Djamoos]

:lol:

If I could program iPhone apps - I'd make it and we could split the profits.
Learn it. Easy $10,000. If I had any programming know-how for that, you can bet it'd have already been created.

[krystofer]

I take the filter off my image searchs and look at inappropriate things

[Jason Tate]

Another great app...
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/05/app-warms-your-hands-by-overheating-your-iphone/
:rotfl:

[Jason Tate]

Learn it. Easy $10,000.
At least. We could get that shit viral in no time.

[Jason Tate]

Jason, idk if there is an Apple thread, but if not will there be one for the rumored event in the end of January?
There is ... and yes. When I can make fun of the tablet all day! :-D

[bard]

i honestly don't understand the appeal of the iSlate.

or e-readers for that matter. just cost way too much money for little advantages.

[NikFinn]

There is ... and yes. When I can make fun of the tablet all day! :-D
Haha. I can't say I blame you. I have never seen the real purpose of a Tablet PC. The mockups/concepts do look cool for the iTablet/iSlate thing, but I'm not sure if they're is a market for it. I'm sure apple will have something up their sleeve though.

[drmbdrummer]

What an exciting time for technology. First the nexus one is finally revealed today and it sure is sexy (and coming to verizon soon too!); easily the best android device out there to compete (or not) with the iphone. CES is this weekend with many more treats and then Apple's big event at the end of the month where they'll release details about their tablet. Not to mention new iphone rumors and everything else; how cool is all this :)

[xshady121]

And I will never own one without one.

Which phone do you have?

After switching from the sidekick to the iphone a while back, I would love to go back to something with a keyboard. The virtual keyboard is frustrating.

[golferpunk1]

:eyebrow:


Seems like a good form factor phone, with a good OS. However, until Android does a few more things - I don't see it as being the reason to make any switch. (I'm a blackberry user.) It needs to set itself apart with their OS, and they haven't yet. I'm keeping an eye on what they do ... and the new 1ghz Snapdragon under the hood has me thinking about what they COULD do in the future. But until then ... no reason for me to pony up any $$ for a switch.


Seriously. I wish it would go away and I could just design for the other 2. It drives me absolutely crazy. 7 is so bad it's not even funny. Which is why I get annoyed when I see any %% of our users viewing our site in it. It looks like shit. I don't know how they browse the web on that. Especially when something soooooo much better is available. For free. Just download it.

Of course I don't get people with super low resolutions either. Heh.

I agree with the speed/usability statements. I love how customized I have FF to do just what I want. I'm not big on the blue hue Chrome has -- but love how much screen real estate it gives.

Unfortunately I am one of those viewing the site with IE. This is definitely not by choice. My computer at work does not allow any programs to be installed so I am stuck with it.

[kwsqd]

The BB browser sucks. I use opera mini. Which actually just launched tabbed browsing apparently.

http://www.opera.com/mini/next/

Which I didn't know.
Neither did I! Thanks!

[NikFinn]

Unfortunately I am one of those viewing the site with IE. This is definitely not by choice. My computer at work does not allow any programs to be installed so I am stuck with it.
Problem, meet solution. :p
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

Btw, you run it live off of a flashdrive without having to install anything.

[Jason Tate]

Which phone do you have?

After switching from the sidekick to the iphone a while back, I would love to go back to something with a keyboard. The virtual keyboard is frustrating.
I have the BB Curve.

[Jason Tate]

What an exciting time for technology. First the nexus one is finally revealed today and it sure is sexy (and coming to verizon soon too!); easily the best android device out there to compete (or not) with the iphone. CES is this weekend with many more treats and then Apple's big event at the end of the month where they'll release details about their tablet. Not to mention new iphone rumors and everything else; how cool is all this :)
Anything else coming out of CES today?

[Jason Tate]

Neither did I! Thanks!
:bow:

Downloading it now. Gonna see how it works.

[kwsqd]

:bow:

Downloading it now. Gonna see how it works.
keep me updated, I have the 8310 myself!

[SunnyInPhilly]

i honestly don't understand the appeal of the iSlate.

or e-readers for that matter. just cost way too much money for little advantages.

I don't either. Especially not for the rumored $1,000 price tag.

[Broclee]

Another great app...
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/05/app-warms-your-hands-by-overheating-your-iphone/

Holy lol, that's hilariously pointless/stupid.

[NikFinn]

If you're already on T-mobile, expect to shell out a little more than $179 for the Nexus One...
http://gizmodo.com/5440829/only-new-t+mobile-customers-see-full-nexus-one-discount

[Kurt Retenauer]

Nexus One is sweet, but I'm happy with my Sidekick.

[Chemical Love]

I will be picking up a Nexus One as soon as its released on Verizon.

[Jason Tate]

http://www.billshrink.com/blog/wp-content/themes/shrinkage/images/graphics/nexus-one-total-cost.jpg

[bard]

wow, makes everything (except the palm pre) look even across the board.

i thought that the iphone and it's plan are way more expensive?

[Kurt Retenauer]

http://www.billshrink.com/blog/wp-content/themes/shrinkage/images/graphics/nexus-one-total-cost.jpg

Is the Nexus One an mp3 player as well? If so, the 4 GB capacity could be an issue if it doesn't have expandable memory.

[bard]

Is the Nexus One an mp3 player as well? If so, the 4 GB capacity could be an issue if it doesn't have expandable memory.
yes, and it says "expendable to 32gb" under the 4gb, like the droid

[Jason Tate]

Is the Nexus One an mp3 player as well? If so, the 4 GB capacity could be an issue if it doesn't have expandable memory.
... but it does have expandable memory.

[Kurt Retenauer]

... but it does have expandable memory.

Didn't see that on the ad until now. Cool phone, but not cool enough to ditch a physical keyboard. I've got an iPod Touch and can't stand the digital keyboard.

[Kurt Retenauer]

yes, and it says "expendable to 32gb" under the 4gb, like the droid

Aesthetically speaking, the Droid does not appeal to me at all.

[Jason Tate]

Didn't see that on the ad until now. Cool phone, but not cool enough to ditch a physical keyboard. I've got an iPod Touch and can't stand the digital keyboard.
Same. I need a keyboard.

Haven't really liked the new BB curves though ... still waiting to see what my next device will be.

[bard]

Aesthetically speaking, the Droid does not appeal to me at all.
it is the worst out of those four aestetically, but the features/pricing/carrier makes up for it for me. i'm deciding between the droid and the nexus one.


edit: and yes, i like a physical keyboard so i'm leaning toward the droid.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Same. I need a keyboard.

Haven't really liked the new BB curves though ... still waiting to see what my next device will be.

Yeah, my girlfriend's got a BlackBerry Curve, pretty cool interface and all, but all of the new BlackBerry models have seemed exactly the same, or not different/unique enough to pay for an upgrade (aside from the Storm, which, is all touch) .I'm still locked in on a Sidekick contract until June though. I bet you're glad to be off of a Sidekick, haha, you stopped on the 3 from what I remember?

[Kurt Retenauer]

it is the worst out of those four aestetically, but the features/pricing/carrier makes up for it for me. i'm deciding between the droid and the nexus one.


edit: and yes, i like a physical keyboard so i'm leaning toward the droid.

Yeah if you have Verizon, the Droid makes the most sense. The Nexus One is way too expensive out of contract.

[Jason Tate]

Yeah if you have Verizon, the Droid makes the most sense. The Nexus One is way too expensive out of contract.
It's even expensive in a contract -- for me to "upgrade" (I looked) -- the phone would be around $349. And I'd be locked in for another 2 years.

Yeah. No Thanks.

Always ticks me off when "new" customers can cut the price of a phone in half and I get screwed? Thanks tmobile. Suck my wang.

[bard]

Yeah if you have Verizon, the Droid makes the most sense. The Nexus One is way too expensive out of contract.
yeah, but the nexus one is coming to verizon "soon"

once that comes out, i'll make a decision

[bard]

It's even expensive in a contract -- for me to "upgrade" (I looked) -- the phone would be around $349. And I'd be locked in for another 2 years.

Yeah. No Thanks.

Always ticks me off when "new" customers can cut the price of a phone in half and I get screwed? Thanks tmobile. Suck my wang.
wait a second, only new t mobile customers get the upgrade? that's messed up. where's the customer loyalty/appreciation?

[Jason Tate]

Yeah, my girlfriend's got a BlackBerry Curve, pretty cool interface and all, but all of the new BlackBerry models have seemed exactly the same, or not different/unique enough to pay for an upgrade (aside from the Storm, which, is all touch) .I'm still locked in on a Sidekick contract until June though. I bet you're glad to be off of a Sidekick, haha, you stopped on the 3 from what I remember?
Yeah, that's their problem. 19238912931209312 devices. All pretty much (to my understanding) do the same thing. Too many options without clear reasons to go with one or the other. Pretty annoying.

I had the LX. Glad to be using something else. I needed something I could use email on more consistently. The gmail app for the BB is perfect along with google synch for my calendars.

[Jason Tate]

wait a second, only new t mobile customers get the upgrade? that's messed up. where's the customer loyalty/appreciation?
:shrug:

I looked about 10 minutes ago because I was curious what the pricing was.

$79 a month. $349 for the phone.

[bard]

i wonder if it's a mistake that needs fixing, because that sounds crazy

[Kurt Retenauer]

It's even expensive in a contract -- for me to "upgrade" (I looked) -- the phone would be around $349. And I'd be locked in for another 2 years.

Yeah. No Thanks.

Always ticks me off when "new" customers can cut the price of a phone in half and I get screwed? Thanks tmobile. Suck my wang.

Yeah, T-Mobile is the absolute WORST when it comes to upgrading your phone when you're not due for an upgrade. New customers get it for what, $180? And, me, as a loyal, bill-paying customer, get locked into 2 more years on a contract for a phone that is given to new customers for half as much as I paid? My Sidekick broke, and to get the new one, it'd have been I think $350ish, and I get Sidekick data for $20 since I signed a contract when it was still $20, and they were going to raise it to $30 since I'd be entering a new contract. Fuck that, I went on craigslist and found another LX for $60.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Yeah, that's their problem. 19238912931209312 devices. All pretty much (to my understanding) do the same thing. Too many options without clear reasons to go with one or the other. Pretty annoying.

I had the LX. Glad to be using something else. I needed something I could use email on more consistently. The gmail app for the BB is perfect along with google synch for my calendars.

It just seemed like BB began to saturate the market with the Curve, since it, IMO, is their best device to date, and they took that knowledge and ran with it, putting the same hardware/software into new BB's with a different, but yet so similar casing (adding chrome to the edges does not make me want to spend $350 on a new phone).

I like my LX a lot, but like you said, the email is pretty bad. The mail forwarding is heavily delated. I wish Sidekicks had apps that could be downloaded other than the ones on the download center.

[Jason Tate]

Yeah, T-Mobile is the absolute WORST when it comes to upgrading your phone when you're not due for an upgrade. New customers get it for what, $180? And, me, as a loyal, bill-paying customer, get locked into 2 more years on a contract for a phone that is given to new customers for half as much as I paid? My Sidekick broke, and to get the new one, it'd have been I think $350ish, and I get Sidekick data for $20 since I signed a contract when it was still $20, and they were going to raise it to $30 since I'd be entering a new contract. Fuck that, I went on craigslist and found another LX for $60.
Exxxxxxxactly. It drives me up the effing wall. Such bullshit. They pulled the same thing on me when my SK3 broke. Coughed up like $300 for the LX. Fucking obnoxious.

Never missed a bill payment and yet I can't upgrade for the same price as a new customer? What is that about?

New Blackberry Curve (which I don't want, but looked anyway)? $129 for a new customer. Me? $169. They give me a discount, but not the full one. Cost me $40 more because I'm already a customer? Assholes.

I just wish my Curve was a little faster. It seems to have slowed down recently. Not sure if I can push more data onto the memory card or something ... or what. But it feels slower to me when browsing apps/etc.

[Kurt Retenauer]

wait a second, only new t mobile customers get the upgrade? that's messed up. where's the customer loyalty/appreciation?

It's non-existent with T-Mobile. The best they have to offer are Catherine Zeta-Jones commercials.

[Jason Tate]

It just seemed like BB began to saturate the market with the Curve, since it, IMO, is their best device to date, and they took that knowledge and ran with it, putting the same hardware/software into new BB's with a different, but yet so similar casing (adding chrome to the edges does not make me want to spend $350 on a new phone).

I like my LX a lot, but like you said, the email is pretty bad. The mail forwarding is heavily delated. I wish Sidekicks had apps that could be downloaded other than the ones on the download center.
Yep. Exactly. Bad business move (IMO). The iphone is an iphone is an iphone. Sell a great product - and then give people ways to make it better (memory, custom addons, plans, etc.) -- instead of making 6 versions of a phone, and then trying to make people pick what they want.

I could maybe see having the Curve and the touch screen one. Beyond that? Bad move.

Yep, the email was the big reason I changed. Loved the screen. Loved the keyboard. Needed a more native way to use my email. They really need to open up their developments of new apps. They have a good tangible product ... just the software needs a few changes IMO.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Exxxxxxxactly. It drives me up the effing wall. Such bullshit. They pulled the same thing on me when my SK3 broke. Coughed up like $300 for the LX. Fucking obnoxious.

Never missed a bill payment and yet I can't upgrade for the same price as a new customer? What is that about?

New Blackberry Curve (which I don't want, but looked anyway)? $129 for a new customer. Me? $169. They give me a discount, but not the full one. Cost me $40 more because I'm already a customer? Assholes.

I just wish my Curve was a little faster. It seems to have slowed down recently. Not sure if I can push more data onto the memory card or something ... or what. But it feels slower to me when browsing apps/etc.

What especially pisses me off is their warranty coverage. It basically only covers software malfunctions, and costs, like, $15 a month or something. It's a shame that it even GETS to the point where we need to upgrade phones because they don't last the full two years.

I'm in the same boat, never missed any payments, and still can't get the fringe benefits of new customers. Reminds me of colleges that give the nice dorms to incoming freshmen, and sophomores get to live in the rooms with cockroaches.

Do phones lose efficiency in terms of processing? I would guess that they would just not operate as quickly as they once did, like computers, but I feel like computers have a lot more justification to operate slowly, since there are far more processes going through it.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Yep. Exactly. Bad business move (IMO). The iphone is an iphone is an iphone. Sell a great product - and then give people ways to make it better (memory, custom addons, plans, etc.) -- instead of making 6 versions of a phone, and then trying to make people pick what they want.

I could maybe see having the Curve and the touch screen one. Beyond that? Bad move.

Yep, the email was the big reason I changed. Loved the screen. Loved the keyboard. Needed a more native way to use my email. They really need to open up their developments of new apps. They have a good tangible product ... just the software needs a few changes IMO.

Yeah, I never understood with BB didn't run with the original Curve. I'd say about 35% of the kids where I go to college have a Curve. They should have really improvised off of the original Curve rather than shitting out new phones left and right.

They should have done what Verizon did with the enV. The enV was a HUGE phone, and Verizon took note, and made the enV3, as well as an enV Touch, for people like me and you that like physical keyboards, and for people jumping on the touch screen bandwagon. BB should have done the same, i.e. a Curve Touch or just released the Storm, and like you said, provide ways to make each better.

The LX screen is great, really big, which is nice. The keyboard is great, and I feel like the reception/service is great. I also love the blue lights that blink when the phone rings (immature of me, I know, but I'm a sucker for stuff like that.) Wish it could play YouTube, but then again, that's probably just bad for me because I'd never have battery. I was disappointed that the new Sidekick is very similar to the LX, I was hoping, like you said, they'd have changed up the software a bit, especially to compete with other smart phones.

[Jason Tate]

What especially pisses me off is their warranty coverage. It basically only covers software malfunctions, and costs, like, $15 a month or something. It's a shame that it even GETS to the point where we need to upgrade phones because they don't last the full two years.

I'm in the same boat, never missed any payments, and still can't get the fringe benefits of new customers. Reminds me of colleges that give the nice dorms to incoming freshmen, and sophomores get to live in the rooms with cockroaches.

Do phones lose efficiency in terms of processing? I would guess that they would just not operate as quickly as they once did, like computers, but I feel like computers have a lot more justification to operate slowly, since there are far more processes going through it.
The backlight in my 3 went out 9 months after I bought it. I was pissed. And of course, they won't fix or or anything. And it's not like going into a store means anything -- cause they just call the same (not good) customer service line I would.

Exactly. What is that shit about? Why don't I get treated with more benefits for being a good customer? Why aren't they sucking me off for all the money I give them? Something like 88$ a month for -- what ... 6 years now? That's like $7k just in bills.

Yeah, not sure ... gonna check to see if my OS can be updated.

[Jason Tate]

Yeah, I never understood with BB didn't run with the original Curve. I'd say about 35% of the kids where I go to college have a Curve. They should have really improvised off of the original Curve rather than shitting out new phones left and right.

They should have done what Verizon did with the enV. The enV was a HUGE phone, and Verizon took note, and made the enV3, as well as an enV Touch, for people like me and you that like physical keyboards, and for people jumping on the touch screen bandwagon. BB should have done the same, i.e. a Curve Touch or just released the Storm, and like you said, provide ways to make each better.

The LX screen is great, really big, which is nice. The keyboard is great, and I feel like the reception/service is great. I also love the blue lights that blink when the phone rings (immature of me, I know, but I'm a sucker for stuff like that.) Wish it could play YouTube, but then again, that's probably just bad for me because I'd never have battery. I was disappointed that the new Sidekick is very similar to the LX, I was hoping, like you said, they'd have changed up the software a bit, especially to compete with other smart phones.
That's what I would have done.

Yep. Absolutely. Then every 2 years (or whatever), you release an upgrade in hardware. Phase out the old one - like iPods/phones. 1st gen, 2nd gen, etc. And you open up the app store 2 years ago instead of recently. They dropped the ball there.

Definitely. I liked the lights too. And that is where some customization stuff comes in. Let people choose colors of lights and whatever. Not sure why Danger hasn't done more with the software TBH. Seems like a missed opportunity.

[Kurt Retenauer]

The backlight in my 3 went out 9 months after I bought it. I was pissed. And of course, they won't fix or or anything. And it's not like going into a store means anything -- cause they just call the same (not good) customer service line I would.

Exactly. What is that shit about? Why don't I get treated with more benefits for being a good customer? Why aren't they sucking me off for all the money I give them? Something like 88$ a month for -- what ... 6 years now? That's like $7k just in bills.

Yeah, not sure ... gonna check to see if my OS can be updated.

Going to the store is pretty much the worst decision I ever made. Somehow, I was removed as a partial account holder, and when I called customer support and gave my SS#, they said they needed my sister's, because she was the only account holder. So, I get a hold of my sister hours later, call back, and they said "We're sorry, we actually needed Christopher's, your father." Yeah, thanks for the wild goose chase just to get my myFaves refreshed. Yeah, T-Mobile is infamous for NEVER fixing a phone, just offering new purchases.

They know the good customers are locked into contracts and will continue to be good customers, so they figure nice guys finish last, and they go out and rope new customers into their service, but they end up being just like you and me: screwed.

I know Verizon does mandatory OS updates on all of the BB's, at least my girlfriend's did. Be careful though, the update shut her internet off for two weeks for some reason, because the internet did not match the rest of the update or something.

[Kurt Retenauer]

That's what I would have done.

Yep. Absolutely. Then every 2 years (or whatever), you release an upgrade in hardware. Phase out the old one - like iPods/phones. 1st gen, 2nd gen, etc. And you open up the app store 2 years ago instead of recently. They dropped the ball there.

Definitely. I liked the lights too. And that is where some customization stuff comes in. Let people choose colors of lights and whatever. Not sure why Danger hasn't done more with the software TBH. Seems like a missed opportunity.

Yeah Sidekick's are so limited as far as customization. Especially the ringtones that are locked into only Download Center capable ones. Can't get 3rd party ringtones, even if you pay for them.

[Jason Tate]

Going to the store is pretty much the worst decision I ever made. Somehow, I was removed as a partial account holder, and when I called customer support and gave my SS#, they said they needed my sister's, because she was the only account holder. So, I get a hold of my sister hours later, call back, and they said "We're sorry, we actually needed Christopher's, your father." Yeah, thanks for the wild goose chase just to get my myFaves refreshed. Yeah, T-Mobile is infamous for NEVER fixing a phone, just offering new purchases.

They know the good customers are locked into contracts and will continue to be good customers, so they figure nice guys finish last, and they go out and rope new customers into their service, but they end up being just like you and me: screwed.

I know Verizon does mandatory OS updates on all of the BB's, at least my girlfriend's did. Be careful though, the update shut her internet off for two weeks for some reason, because the internet did not match the rest of the update or something.
We've had similar stories it seems. Growl.

Interesting. Will check it out. And keep chilling until something gets released that sticks my fancy.

[Jason Tate]

Yeah Sidekick's are so limited as far as customization. Especially the ringtones that are locked into only Download Center capable ones. Can't get 3rd party ringtones, even if you pay for them.
That remains one of the worst decisions the company ever made. The ringtone thing. Being able to change my ringtones on my BB for the first time made me so happy.

[kemppettyjohn]

so, when is the government going to make google downsize? arent there monopoly laws? haha

[Kurt Retenauer]

We've had similar stories it seems. Growl.

Interesting. Will check it out. And keep chilling until something gets released that sticks my fancy.

Similar stories for sure. I'd like to send some T-Mobile exec's over this way to show how inefficient their help services are.

That remains one of the worst decisions the company ever made. The ringtone thing. Being able to change my ringtones on my BB for the first time made me so happy.

Yeah, the ringtones absolutely suck. It's all "party pop," early 2000's bands such as Creed, and rap. They're so awful I've stuck to the T-Mobile jingle to remind me each and every time my phone rings how much I hate the customer care.

[Kurt Retenauer]

so, when is the government going to make google downsize? arent there monopoly laws? haha

Monopoly laws that the government will more than likely Google to find out how to downsize Google, haha.

[Jason Tate]

Similar stories for sure. I'd like to send some T-Mobile exec's over this way to show how inefficient their help services are.



Yeah, the ringtones absolutely suck. It's all "party pop," early 2000's bands such as Creed, and rap. They're so awful I've stuck to the T-Mobile jingle to remind me each and every time my phone rings how much I hate the customer care.
They keep touting their customer service in commercials.

:rolleyes:

[Kurt Retenauer]

They keep touting their customer service in commercials.

:rolleyes:

It's ok though, everyone's missing the point because Catherine Zeta-Jones steals the thunder. They see/hear her and totally ignore what T-Mobile has to say about anything. All the viewers/listeners hear is, "Isn't it time you got an upgrade?"

[Jason Tate]

It's ok though, everyone's missing the point because Catherine Zeta-Jones steals the thunder. They see/hear her and totally ignore what T-Mobile has to say about anything. All the viewers/listeners hear is, "Isn't it time you got an upgrade?"
Zeta >>>> Luke Wilson.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Zeta >>>> Luke Wilson.

Hahahaha for sure. Nice of T-Mobile to stay out of the crossfire between AT&T and Verizon, almost as if they were looking out for Zeta by being inferior.

[Wake Up]

i use www.com

[Summersitcom]

I don't understand anyone's hate for AT&T, honestly.

[Kurt Retenauer]

I don't understand anyone's hate for AT&T, honestly.

I don't hate it. I just think their little advertisement war with Verizon is very immature. Even though Verizon did start it by showing AT&T has no coverage in Montana, North/South Dakota, amongst other states/major cities. But that's petty of me to say "They started it," too.

[Chris92]

Chrome ruined my Firefox without me knowing it.
Holy shit! Me too. I though my computer was just weirding out or something.
IE also attacked my Firefox.

[Formatfun]

As Jason said, the UI design on FF is really good to me, and it's just what I need for that. Chrome is just too simple (it seems?) and I don't like the placement of things. I think a combination of the good things from Chrome and the good things from FF (mostly UI stuff) would make a really great browser. I was reading about the future of Firefox, and I think that's where they're heading with it, too.

[Summersitcom]

I don't hate it. I just think their little advertisement war with Verizon is very immature. Even though Verizon did start it by showing AT&T has no coverage in Montana, North/South Dakota, amongst other states/major cities. But that's petty of me to say "They started it," too.

Oh, I don't think anybody's disputing the idiocy of this campaign war. But I've used AT&T all my life, and my parents long before that, and I've always been quite pleased with everything.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Oh, I don't think anybody's disputing the idiocy of this campaign war. But I've used AT&T all my life, and my parents long before that, and I've always been quite pleased with everything.

I had AT&T, Cingular, and when it reverted back to AT&T and never had any complaints. Only reason I switched to T-Mobile is because my sister and I really wanted Sidekicks, haha.

[patpratt]

i just got the palm pre for christmas. i really like it so far

[perceptrons]

As Jason said, the UI design on FF is really good to me, and it's just what I need for that. Chrome is just too simple (it seems?) and I don't like the placement of things. I think a combination of the good things from Chrome and the good things from FF (mostly UI stuff) would make a really great browser. I was reading about the future of Firefox, and I think that's where they're heading with it, too.
The design mock-ups for the next version of Firefox are looking more like Chrome.

[Jason Tate]

As Jason said, the UI design on FF is really good to me, and it's just what I need for that. Chrome is just too simple (it seems?) and I don't like the placement of things. I think a combination of the good things from Chrome and the good things from FF (mostly UI stuff) would make a really great browser. I was reading about the future of Firefox, and I think that's where they're heading with it, too.
Yeah ... the next generation of browsers looks really cool. At least I hope.

[Jason Tate]

The design mock-ups for the next version of Firefox are looking more like Chrome.
And Chrome more like FF.

It's an interesting dynamic.

IE is losing.

[NikFinn]

IE is losing.
Unless Microsoft dramatically changes something (and by something I mean everything), it will be losing for quite some time.

[perceptrons]

Chrome needs to figure out their extension integration better, it's quite annoying to not be able to use extensions in Incognito.

[Jason Tate]

RgFHGALMqK4&feature=player_embedded

I like.

[flask]

Does anyone have a Nuxus One, and if so, how do they like it?

[Jason Tate]

http://mashable.com/2010/05/20/google-reveals-android-2-2-and-more-live/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Ma shable%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Android Froyo can bring your entire home music library to your phone as a stream. So yes, all of your iTunes songs can be streamed onto your Android phone, so long as you have an Internet connection.


That's awesome.

[Jason Tate]

No one talking about google I/O?

I think that they do a great job of building hype for a week ... but last year we saw they didn't sustain it. Maybe it'll be different with all the stuff they announced this year?

[Simulcast]

No one talking about google I/O?

I think that they do a great job of building hype for a week ... but last year we saw they didn't sustain it. Maybe it'll be different with all the stuff they announced this year?

I'm pretty happy about the editor's choice apps. The android marketplace is like the wild west.

[jawstheme]

That's a dirty trick, Facebook.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/12/facebook-loses-much-face-in-secret-smear-on-google/?icid=main%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C212988

[Simulcast]

Wow, that is unbelievable.

[wall e]

Didn't know there was a thread about Google. I just read this book and did a paper on it, pretty interesting stuff.

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/googled_book_cover_01.jpg