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TJ Wells
01/05/10, 06:55 PM
will be directed by...Sam Mendes. Didn't they learn with Quantum of Solace and The World Is Not Enough that having a non-action director helm a Bond film DOESN'T WORK? Ugh.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1373323/

deadkidsean
01/05/10, 06:57 PM
Yeah......not looking forward to. Oh well, our generation still has Casino Royale.

TJ Wells
01/05/10, 06:58 PM
I wish Martin Campbell would just direct every one.

deadkidsean
01/05/10, 06:59 PM
I wish Martin Campbell would just direct every one.
They might have tried to get him but he's in pre-pro w/ Green Lantern.

TJ Wells
01/05/10, 07:01 PM
They might have tried to get him but he's in pre-pro w/ Green Lantern.
I'm confused...I thought that was Gondry/Rogen/December?

deadkidsean
01/05/10, 07:01 PM
I'm confused...I thought that was Gondry/Rogen/December?
The Green Hornet (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0990407/), good sir. Big, big, big, big difference, hahah.

fake empire
01/05/10, 07:08 PM
Gondry is directing The Green Hornet? Hm, I guess I forgot. More excited for that movie now.

TJ Wells
01/05/10, 07:09 PM
The Green Hornet (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0990407/), good sir. Big, big, big, big difference, hahah.
Ah, my bad. I will be making that mistake a lot in the next year.

deadkidsean
01/05/10, 07:10 PM
Ah, my bad. I will be making that mistake a lot in the next year.
100% understandable. Being into comics = not making the mistake, hah.

Thomas Balkcom
01/05/10, 07:54 PM
Martin Campbell is directing Green Latern? Fuck yes.

Greg.Kushlan
01/05/10, 08:05 PM
I'm pretty sure that he will do better than the last guy who made one. As long as they don't have Paul Haggis writing a script it should be fine.

poppa Q
01/05/10, 08:15 PM
Weird.

Genuma
01/05/10, 08:16 PM
saw this too, not too excited. i like sam mendes but he's not going to work as a bond director.

nickiswhatitis
01/05/10, 09:03 PM
This could be a complete catastrophe, but I have faith in the fact that Peter Morgan can write an amazing script. Fingers crossed

jwicklun
01/05/10, 09:16 PM
Yeah......not looking forward to. Oh well, our generation still has Casino Royale.
he did direct Jarhead, but I don't know whether or not to count that as an action movie. I'll keep an open mind.

Truman122
01/05/10, 09:40 PM
Not that the guy didn't direct some amazing movies, but I couldn't see him making a good Bond movie. Who knows though, he might surprise me. Anybody else wanna see Guy Ritchie direct a Bond film?

poppa Q
01/05/10, 09:41 PM
no

fake empire
01/05/10, 09:47 PM
Hell no

jbaseball44
01/05/10, 10:01 PM
Interesting choice in Mendes. Not sure how I feel about it

Momo32T
01/05/10, 10:08 PM
I’m sorry, I can’t imagine the guy who directed movies like American Beauty, Revolutionary Road, and Away We Go to make an effective action film. Hopefully he will prove me wrong.

ForlrnPerplxity
01/05/10, 11:26 PM
It's an odd/interesting/surprising directing choice, but I love it.

The funny thing is people hear odd pairs involving movies (Heath Ledger cast as Joker) and automatically close their mind about it. We all saw how the Joker was with Ledger. I think Mendes could make this amazing.

With Peter Morgan writing the script, it should have a good story too.

friskycurtain
01/06/10, 12:00 AM
Can't wait...another suckfest.

Since Daniel Craig got cast, I have not enjoyed one second of the new Bond franchise.

secretsociety92
01/06/10, 01:48 AM
Well the last two were great so I hope this will be, only seen one movie by this guy so who knows guess we will have to wait until next year.

cshadows2887
01/06/10, 01:54 AM
I'm pretty sure that he will do better than the last guy who made one. As long as they don't have Paul Haggis writing a script it should be fine.

Haggis co-wrote Casino Royale...

Greg.Kushlan
01/06/10, 02:55 AM
Haggis co-wrote Casino Royale...
He also co-wrote the last one, and it was horrible.

Greg.Kushlan
01/06/10, 02:57 AM
It's an odd/interesting/surprising directing choice, but I love it.

The funny thing is people hear odd pairs involving movies (Heath Ledger cast as Joker) and automatically close their mind about it. We all saw how the Joker was with Ledger. I think Mendes could make this amazing.

With Peter Morgan writing the script, it should have a good story too.

Ledger wasn't directing The Dark Knight though. If Sam Mendes was playing James Bond then your defense would make more sense.

aoftbsten
01/06/10, 07:48 AM
Hmmm, the action in the last one but it was probably the worst plot ever.

IAmNietzche
01/06/10, 07:51 AM
I'd like to see Takashi Miike direct a Bond film.

drudo182
01/06/10, 08:20 AM
I would hardly blame Marc Forster for Quantum.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 08:20 AM
Can't wait...another suckfest.

Since Daniel Craig got cast, I have not enjoyed one second of the new Bond franchise.
Miss the good old Pierce Brosnan days?

c_rob2700
01/06/10, 08:30 AM
Man, I sure do. Really, this franchise needs a return to form, like a a villain who gets a different face and wants to destroy the earth with a sun satellite. If this movie doesn't have invisible cars driving through melting ice castles and asians with diamonds stuck in their fucking face getting crushed by chandeliers, I'm boycotting

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 08:35 AM
Can't argue with a plot like that.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 08:49 AM
will be directed by...Sam Mendes. Didn't they learn with Quantum of Solace and The World Is Not Enough that having a non-action director helm a Bond film DOESN'T WORK? Ugh.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1373323/

Shit. I've hated all the Sam Mendes films I've seen with the exception of Road to Perdition, but that gives me some hope for this. I thought there was talk awhile back about a Danny Boyle Bond...guess that fell through...

I wish Martin Campbell would just direct every one.

I've been thinking this for awhile as well. I didn't hate Quantum, but after Casino Royale, it was a huge letdown.

Can't wait...another suckfest.

Since Daniel Craig got cast, I have not enjoyed one second of the new Bond franchise.

You realize that Casino Royale was the best Bond film since like...Goldfinger, right?

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 08:50 AM
Shit. I've hated all the Sam Mendes films I've seen with the exception of Road to Perdition, but that gives me some hope for this. I thought there was talk awhile back about a Danny Boyle Bond...guess that fell through...
Didn't like American Beauty or didn't see it?

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 08:53 AM
Didn't like American Beauty or didn't see it?

I wasn't a big fan. Loved Kevin Spacey in it, but beyond that didn't like it a whole lot. I hate Revolutionary Road though.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 08:54 AM
I wasn't a big fan. Loved Kevin Spacey in it, but beyond that didn't like it a whole lot. I hate Revolutionary Road though.
Like American Beauty a lot, like Jarhead, didn't hate Revolutionary Road as much as most but still didn't think it was very good.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 09:00 AM
Like American Beauty a lot, like Jarhead, didn't hate Revolutionary Road as much as most but still didn't think it was very good.

I didn't like Jarhead either and I'm not really sure why. I'm not a big fan of either Jake Gyllenhaal or Jamie Foxx so maybe that was it...I think I might have to see it again. Most of his films are undoubtedly well made, I just don't like the stories/characters a lot of the time. Road to Perdition was one of my favorite films of last decade though, so I don't know.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 09:08 AM
I didn't like Jarhead either and I'm not really sure why. I'm not a big fan of either Jake Gyllenhaal or Jamie Foxx so maybe that was it...I think I might have to see it again. Most of his films are undoubtedly well made, I just don't like the stories/characters a lot of the time. Road to Perdition was one of my favorite films of last decade though, so I don't know.
I like Gyllenhaal quite a bit, not a huge fan of Foxx but he was alright. Road to Perdition was very good, loved all the performances and seeing Paul Newman one last time was really cool.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 09:17 AM
I like Gyllenhaal quite a bit, not a huge fan of Foxx but he was alright. Road to Perdition was very good, loved all the performances and seeing Paul Newman one last time was really cool.

Yeah, I've started liking Gyllenhaal a lot more lately, thanks to things like Zodiac, so maybe I'd enjoy the film more now. Foxx isn't a bad actor, but something about him has just always bothered me...and I'm still kind of upset that he won that Oscar.

Paul Newman was great and I really enjoyed seeing Hanks play a role like that. It was just a beautiful looking film as well.

cantnokdahustle
01/06/10, 09:23 AM
I'd rather see his adaptation of Preacher than this, but I'm certainly not against it as many seem to be. I think Mendes can handle it, especially in the vain of Road to Perdition.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 09:24 AM
Yeah, I've started liking Gyllenhaal a lot more lately, thanks to things like Zodiac, so maybe I'd enjoy the film more now. Foxx isn't a bad actor, but something about him has just always bothered me...and I'm still kind of upset that he won that Oscar.

Paul Newman was great and I really enjoyed seeing Hanks play a role like that. It was just a beautiful looking film as well.
Liked a lot of performances that year better, which isn't to say his was bad, but off the top of my head I liked Deep in Finding Neverland better, Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda, and Dicaprio in Aviator.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 09:35 AM
Liked a lot of performances that year better, which isn't to say his was bad, but off the top of my head I liked Deep in Finding Neverland better, Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda, and Dicaprio in Aviator.

I just really didn't like Ray as a film and wasn't that impressed with Foxx in the title role. I thought he was better in supporting that year, where he was also nominated.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 09:36 AM
I just really didn't like Ray as a film and wasn't that impressed with Foxx in the title role. I thought he was better in supporting that year, where he was also nominated.
Was that Collateral?

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 09:37 AM
Was that Collateral?

Yeah.

caveBEAR
01/06/10, 09:38 AM
I haven't liked a Bond film (as an adult) since the originals. The Pierce Bronsan stuff (as much as I loved them as a kid and loved the games) just don't do anything for me anymore. Most of the old Bond films have lost their luster for me.

I really enjoyed the Daniel Craig movies though, and I especially like the way they are treating Bond more like a spy and less like a superhero, even though the over-the-top Bond elements remain.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 09:41 AM
Only Brosnan film I liked at all was Goldeneye, and that was a Martin Campbell. Hope the same doesn't happen with Craig.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 09:47 AM
Yeah.
Liked that movie, Cruise, who i usually hate, was quite good.

friskycurtain
01/06/10, 09:48 AM
Miss the good old Pierce Brosnan days?

I actually enjoyed Brosnan. But, hell, I'd take Timothy Dalton any day over Craig.

You realize that Casino Royale was the best Bond film since like...Goldfinger, right?

And by "best" you must mean boring. God that movie bored me to tears, except for the airport scene.

jbaseball44
01/06/10, 09:50 AM
I actually enjoyed Brosnan. But, hell, I'd take Timothy Dalton any day over Craig.



And by "best" you must mean boring. God that movie bored me to tears.
Not gonna argue with you but Craig is my favorite Bond other than Connery and Casino Royale is probably the 2nd or 3rd best bond ever.

friskycurtain
01/06/10, 09:57 AM
Not gonna argue with you but Craig is my favorite Bond other than Connery and Casino Royale is probably the 2nd or 3rd best bond ever.

No it's alright. I have never seen the appeal of Craig. To me he is a mashup of Jason Statham and Jason Bourne. Connery of course is the best bond but I grew up with Bronsan so I am a little biased there.

Recovery Room
01/06/10, 10:01 AM
Kind of surprised Mendes is doing this.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 10:14 AM
I actually enjoyed Brosnan. But, hell, I'd take Timothy Dalton any day over Craig.


And by "best" you must mean boring. God that movie bored me to tears, except for the airport scene.

Not really sure how Casino Royale was boring, in any way, but to each their own.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 10:17 AM
Liked that movie, Cruise, who i usually hate, was quite good.

I liked it a lot as well, though I usually enjoy Cruise. Haven't seen that one in a long time, actually.

Drew Beringer
01/06/10, 10:32 AM
The last two Bond movies have been great, high hopes for this one.

Simulcast
01/06/10, 10:40 AM
Man, I sure do. Really, this franchise needs a return to form, like a a villain who gets a different face and wants to destroy the earth with a sun satellite. If this movie doesn't have invisible cars driving through melting ice castles and asians with diamonds stuck in their fucking face getting crushed by chandeliers, I'm boycotting

lololololololol

ForlrnPerplxity
01/06/10, 10:51 AM
Ledger wasn't directing The Dark Knight though. If Sam Mendes was playing James Bond then your defense would make more sense.
My comparison makes perfect sense. People complain about odd pairings in movies all the time when they end up being very good, acting or directing wise.

ForlrnPerplxity
01/06/10, 11:14 AM
Doesn't matter anyway. He's not directing, only coming on as a consultant: http://movies.ign.com/articles/105/1058355p1.html

IamTheINDUSTRY
01/06/10, 11:33 AM
sam mendes rules. when my roommate imformed me of the news last night i received a humongous boner.

kemichels
01/06/10, 11:44 AM
Can't wait...another suckfest.

Since Daniel Craig got cast, I have not enjoyed one second of the new Bond franchise.

The first movie was so fucking badass. How can you hate it?!

The second fell pretty far short with me, though.

drudo182
01/06/10, 11:55 AM
Quantum might have been a disappointment but it wasn't a bad movie by any stretch. It looked great and worked as a movie so Marc Forster did his job.

If you want to blame it on something, blame it on the script/story. The straight continuation of Casino Royale is one reason it's a slight step down.

narcoleptic953
01/06/10, 12:33 PM
One of my biggest problem's with Quantum was how they shot the action sequences. The camera was way too shaky and it was both hard to tell what was going on and headache inducing. And the plot, which should have been awesome (Bond out for revenge), just fell short. I can't even remember the villain from that movie.

Thomas Balkcom
04/10/10, 07:32 PM
Doesn't matter anyway. He's not directing, only coming on as a consultant: http://movies.ign.com/articles/105/1058355p1.html

has been confirmed to direct. (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sam-Mendes-Confirmed-As-The-Next-James-Bond-Director-18028.html)

ForlrnPerplxity
04/10/10, 10:55 PM
has been confirmed to direct. (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sam-Mendes-Confirmed-As-The-Next-James-Bond-Director-18028.html)
I hope they start this rolling soon. I really like Mendes, so I hope he makes a great film.

jbaseball44
04/11/10, 07:46 PM
Very interested to see how it turns out if he actually directs

wrppdarndyrfngr
04/19/10, 02:16 PM
Bond 23 Delayed "Indefinitely" (http://rss.feedsportal.com/c/592/f/7507/s/a1251df/l/0L0Sempireonline0N0Cnews0Cfeed0Basp 0DNID0F27615/story01.htm)


EON productions’ Michael G Wilson and Barbara Broccoli put out a joint statement today (grabbed by Coming Soon (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65332)) that will stab at the heart of all Bond fans waiting for the next installment.
"Due to the continuing uncertainty surrounding the future of MGM and the failure to close a sale of the studio, we have suspended development on Bond 23 indefinitely. We do not know when development will resume and do not have a date for the release of the film."

Wake Up
04/19/10, 02:18 PM
Bond 23 Delayed "Indefinitely" (http://rss.feedsportal.com/c/592/f/7507/s/a1251df/l/0L0Sempireonline0N0Cnews0Cfeed0Basp 0DNID0F27615/story01.htm)

poop

flask
04/19/10, 02:29 PM
these new bond films seem to go against everything that people loved about bond in the first place: hot chicks, insane gadgets, and super villains. the last two films had the hot chicks, but fell short on the other two. if i want gritty, realistic action with a scarred, wounded, vengeance seeking protagonist, i'll watch the bourne movies, because they did it infinitely better.

drudo182
04/19/10, 05:32 PM
Well, you'll have to stop watching the movies.

Until The Bombs
04/19/10, 05:37 PM
these new bond films seem to go against everything that people loved about bond in the first place: hot chicks, insane gadgets, and super villains. the last two films had the hot chicks, but fell short on the other two. if i want gritty, realistic action with a scarred, wounded, vengeance seeking protagonist, i'll watch the bourne movies, because they did it infinitely better.

Have you even seen all the other Bond films to understand the different variations they've taken on the character throughout it's history?

jbaseball44
04/19/10, 05:37 PM
I long for the glorious days of Pierce Brosnan and hotels made of ice and artificial suns.

flask
04/19/10, 05:58 PM
Have you even seen all the other Bond films to understand the different variations they've taken on the character throughout it's history?

mostly just the brosnan and connery movies. im just saying it seems like the slightly more fantastical bond films are the ones that work the best for his character. i know theres some like For Your Eyes Only where revenge is more of a theme and some dude is trapped in a pressurized chamber which is then rapidly decompressed, causing him to explode.

jusscali
04/19/10, 06:11 PM
Fucking pissed that it got delayed. Fingers crossed. I love me some DC

Until The Bombs
04/19/10, 06:14 PM
mostly just the brosnan and connery movies. im just saying it seems like the slightly more fantastical bond films are the ones that work the best for his character. i know theres some like For Your Eyes Only where revenge is more of a theme and some dude is trapped in a pressurized chamber which is then rapidly decompressed, causing him to explode.

Which I guess is why Casino Royale is the best received modern Bond film, if not of all time...

secretsociety92
04/20/10, 08:43 AM
I hope this isn't gonna be a Licence To Kill - Goldeneye wait as I don't want to wait six years for another Bond movie, was really looking forward to this one.

narcoleptic953
04/20/10, 09:28 AM
mostly just the brosnan and connery movies. im just saying it seems like the slightly more fantastical bond films are the ones that work the best for his character. i know theres some like For Your Eyes Only where revenge is more of a theme and some dude is trapped in a pressurized chamber which is then rapidly decompressed, causing him to explode.

Casino Royale is superior to all of the Brosnan films and stands next to Connery's best films as the finest in the series.

secretsociety92
04/21/10, 09:45 AM
No way....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8635409.stm

wrppdarndyrfngr
04/21/10, 09:55 AM
No way....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8635409.stm

headline is misleading. shitty journalism on BBCs part

Bookmaker William Hill has made the 33-year-old 5/2 favourite to take over the role should Daniel Craig not return for his third instalment in the series.

its just one guy saying this. means nothing

secretsociety92
04/21/10, 10:03 AM
headline is misleading. shitty journalism on BBCs part



its just one guy saying this. means nothing
He was one of the actors considered for Casino Royale, so they may go back to him. Hope they don't.

narcoleptic953
04/21/10, 10:05 AM
No way....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8635409.stm

That would be so shitty. That guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.

jbaseball44
04/21/10, 10:26 AM
No way they replace Craig

Drew Beringer
07/06/10, 12:59 PM
don't expect this movie for a while

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/07/james-bond-is-dead

WarpSpeedChewy
07/06/10, 01:55 PM
Sony or Columbia Pictures just needs to buy out the fucking rights to it. 23 was going to be fucking awesome.

FallenEmpyr
07/07/10, 04:10 AM
lol'd @ the picture hahahah

drudo182
07/07/10, 11:38 AM
Sucks it's dead.

ZeitGeist
07/07/10, 03:33 PM
Awesome picture, I noticed that too. BUt that really does blow this movie is dead. I'm hoping they stay with Craig and try to stick it out for a while and get this made. I'd like to see his chracter at least get a trilogy, if not 4 movies.

narcoleptic953
07/07/10, 04:14 PM
Fuck fuck fuckity fucking fuck.

jwicklun
07/07/10, 04:50 PM
God Dammit. And Daniel Craig was beginning to become my favorite Bond.

narcoleptic953
07/07/10, 05:26 PM
Craig definitely needs more time as the character. Quantum wasn't great, but Casino Royale is probably my favorite of the entire series, and showed that Craig definitely had potential to become my favorite Bond ever. He needs more than two films to nail down that title though...

drudo182
07/07/10, 06:10 PM
I need to see Quantum again. I liked it when I first saw it but haven't seen it since.

a speedo model
07/07/10, 07:50 PM
I need to see Quantum again. I liked it when I first saw it but haven't seen it since.
Same, I liked it first time I saw it. Never understood the hate towards it..

narcoleptic953
07/07/10, 09:37 PM
Same, I liked it first time I saw it. Never understood the hate towards it..

I don't hate Quantum at all: on the contrary, I thoroughly enjoyed myself (moreso than everyone I went with) the first time I saw it. Still, it was an undeniable step down from Casino Royale, and probably sits somewhere in the middle of the Bond canon.

jbaseball44
11/05/10, 08:22 AM
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/mgm-wants-james-bond-back-in-theaters-in-2012?_r=true

Trying to get it back on track for a possible release in 2012

Until The Bombs
11/05/10, 09:09 AM
I don't hate Quantum at all: on the contrary, I thoroughly enjoyed myself (moreso than everyone I went with) the first time I saw it. Still, it was an undeniable step down from Casino Royale, and probably sits somewhere in the middle of the Bond canon.

About right. The baddie wasn't all that great, there were excessive lulls in placing, but most importantly expectations were just so high off CR.

narcoleptic953
11/05/10, 11:11 AM
About right. The baddie wasn't all that great, there were excessive lulls in placing, but most importantly expectations were just so high off CR.

Yeah, the expectations from CR were the biggest challenge that film faced. The plot was a bit convoluted and yes, the villain was pretty lame (and the Bond girl too), but it was still fun, and Craig was still great. Really hope 23 (if it happens) is closer to what CR was.

cshadows2887
11/05/10, 11:24 AM
Quantum was a good bit of character-development, liked Kurylenko and it got us to where we need to be for another great one. If the action was less Bourne-y, it could have been a good stand-alone.

Until The Bombs
11/05/10, 07:29 PM
Totally forgot that I ended up buying QoS when it was on discount. Will be watching tonight.

narcoleptic953
11/06/10, 09:35 PM
Quantum was a good bit of character-development, liked Kurylenko and it got us to where we need to be for another great one. If the action was less Bourne-y, it could have been a good stand-alone.

It was definitely too Bourne-y. Film gave me a bit of a headache, if I remember correctly.

cshadows2887
11/06/10, 09:38 PM
It was definitely too Bourne-y. Film gave me a bit of a headache, if I remember correctly.

You're going to show beautiful Aston Martins careening after one another at high speeds and instead of letting us actually see and admire them we see: fender, bumper, Bond's face, mirror, bad guy's face, bumper, fender

narcoleptic953
11/06/10, 09:40 PM
You're going to show beautiful Aston Martins careening after one another at high speeds and instead of letting us actually see and admire them we see: fender, bumper, Bond's face, mirror, bad guy's face, bumper, fender

Seriously. And the fights were almost unwatchable.

drudo182
11/07/10, 04:50 AM
I need to watch Quantum again but I liked it the first time I saw it though I agree it was disappointing coming off Casino Royale.

Colorblind!
11/07/10, 06:58 AM
Ew, what the hell? I love Mendes, why is he doing this?

narcoleptic953
11/07/10, 09:36 AM
Ew, what the hell? I love Mendes, why is he doing this?

There is no way it could possibly be worse than Revolutionary Road, so don't worry.

Colorblind!
11/07/10, 09:39 AM
There is no way it could possibly be worse than Revolutionary Road, so don't worry.

LOL
We're not having this conversation again...

narcoleptic953
11/07/10, 09:41 AM
LOL
We're not having this conversation again...

Haha, so it was you I had this conversation with?

But seriously, assuming Mendes makes a Bond film in the higher half of the canon, it's definitely a true statement.

Colorblind!
11/07/10, 09:45 AM
Haha, so it was you I had this conversation with?

But seriously, assuming Mendes makes a Bond film in the higher half of the canon, it's definitely a true statement.

Oh yes it was. I thought it was brilliantly acted and extremely affecting. Deconstructs the American dream and shows the core of suburban, monogamous discontent.
I'm not saying that this won't be good, but I just don't care about Bond really. Action movies do little for me, and his past films (American Beauty, Revolutionary Road, Away We Go) have all been so human and (in my opinion) thought-provoking that this is sort of an unwelcome departure.

narcoleptic953
11/07/10, 09:50 AM
Oh yes it was. I thought it was brilliantly acted and extremely affecting. Deconstructs the American dream and shows the core of suburban, monogamous discontent.
I'm not saying that this won't be good, but I just don't care about Bond really. Action movies do little for me, and his past films (American Beauty, Revolutionary Road, Away We Go) have all been so human and (in my opinion) thought-provoking that this is sort of an unwelcome departure.

The only film he's made that I've legitimately enjoyed is Road to Perdition, and that's probably the closest thing to what Mendes doing a Bond film would be.
I thought RR tried way too hard: the performances were so over the top they became comical, and the whole thing just failed to move me at all.

Colorblind!
11/07/10, 12:16 PM
The only film he's made that I've legitimately enjoyed is Road to Perdition, and that's probably the closest thing to what Mendes doing a Bond film would be.
I thought RR tried way too hard: the performances were so over the top they became comical, and the whole thing just failed to move me at all.

You didn't like American Beauty!?

narcoleptic953
11/07/10, 01:19 PM
You didn't like American Beauty!?

I'm about half and half on that one. Loved Spacey's performance, didn't really enjoy the movie. I at least sort of respect that one though, whereas I thought RR was just plain bad.

cshadows2887
11/07/10, 03:31 PM
I'm about half and half on that one. Loved Spacey's performance, didn't really enjoy the movie. I at least sort of respect that one though, whereas I thought RR was just plain bad.

How can I like your taste in tunes and hate your taste in movies to such extremes at the same time? Haha.

narcoleptic953
11/07/10, 06:48 PM
How can I like your taste in tunes and hate your taste in movies to such extremes at the same time? Haha.


Hahaha, I don't know. I really, really hated Revolutionary Road though. It's rare for me to legitimately hate films that much...I mean, I know I ragged on Avatar for months, but that was probably because of the massive popularity as much as anything else. With RR, I just wanted to kill myself.

Until The Bombs
11/07/10, 06:50 PM
Same. Revolutionary Road was one of the most unenjoyable movie watching experiences I've ever had.

cshadows2887
11/07/10, 07:14 PM
Hahaha, I don't know. I really, really hated Revolutionary Road though. It's rare for me to legitimately hate films that much...I mean, I know I ragged on Avatar for months, but that was probably because of the massive popularity as much as anything else. With RR, I just wanted to kill myself.

It wasn't fun, but it was smart, well-written, incredibly acted and just generally well-made. But utterly, despairingly depressing, sure.

narcoleptic953
11/07/10, 08:21 PM
It wasn't fun, but it was smart, well-written, incredibly acted and just generally well-made. But utterly, despairingly depressing, sure.

I just couldn't get into it. And I wanted to love the performances, I really did, but there were moments, specifically in this scene:

QhQ_aVnciu4&feature=related

...where the performances seemed so ridiculously over the top to me that it became slightly comical, which is, I'm sure, not what they were aiming for. Obviously a lot of people felt differently, but that was my problem with the film.

Sunken In
11/07/10, 08:23 PM
My last name is bond.

Smash Adams
01/11/11, 12:48 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/sam-mendes-officially-directing-daniel-craig-bond-23-release-november-9-2012/#more-95585
November 2012

Full Effect Ed
01/11/11, 12:54 PM
Another Nov 2012 announcement, give it a week and it'll go back into limbo

williek311
01/11/11, 12:59 PM
I'd like to see Takashi Miike direct a Bond film.

This I could get in to.

Jason Tate
01/11/11, 12:59 PM
November 9, 2012. Has a date. Sweeet. And Craig's back.

Daniel Craig (http://www.slashfilm.com/sam-mendes-officially-directing-daniel-craig-bond-23-release-november-9-2012/#) will be returning as the legendary British secret agent, with Sam Mendes directing a screenplay written by Neal Purvis, Robert Wade and John Logan.

Jason Tate
01/11/11, 01:01 PM
There is no way it could possibly be worse than Revolutionary Road, so don't worry.
:appl:

zachff
01/11/11, 01:23 PM
My last name is bond.
I wonder if there are any huge Bond fans out there named Bond James Bond

secretsociety92
01/11/11, 02:41 PM
About time we got a release date, all we need now is a title, the song and the premise so I can get excited. I just hope the money stays behind it and doesn't get put on hold, again.

Sunken In
01/12/11, 08:16 AM
I wonder if there are any huge Bond fans out there named Bond James Bond


I duno.. I'm just happy my parents had the wisdom not to name me James.

JJW319
01/12/11, 09:20 AM
Damn Nov 12 is a long time...

Casino Royale is one of my favorite movies, QoS is well...not.

drudo182
01/12/11, 11:07 AM
Daniel Craig better be working out for this next one.

Hamlet
01/13/11, 02:54 PM
Let's hope it's awesome like Casino Royale and not atrocious like Quantum of Solace.

But for story it comes down to the script, and for action it comes down to the director.

Jason Tate
01/13/11, 03:14 PM
QoS was not atrocious.

Chemical Love
01/13/11, 03:30 PM
I thought QoS was pretty bad.

WhitestKidUKnow
01/13/11, 03:45 PM
I wasn't particularly fond of QoS, but I wouldn't say it was bad. Either way, my hopes for the next one are high.

Matt Chylak
01/13/11, 04:11 PM
I need to see it again

IAmNietzche
01/17/11, 02:31 PM
This I could get in to.
Yeah dude.

Hotspur_Coop
01/17/11, 02:32 PM
Yesssss

jbaseball44
01/28/11, 10:32 AM
http://screenrant.com/james-bond-judi-dench-sandy-98485/?_r=true
Judi Dench Confirmed.

Smash Adams
01/30/11, 05:24 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/javier-bardem-offered-big-bond-role-as-mgm-leveraging-007-distribution-with-co-financing-deal-to-improve-its-cash-flow-jockeying-studios-increasingly-frustrated/
Bardem might be the villain

jbaseball44
01/30/11, 05:27 PM
Would be cool

narcoleptic953
01/30/11, 07:49 PM
Bardem would be a great choice for the villain.

jbaseball44
07/18/11, 11:17 AM
http://collider.com/james-bond-23-rhys-ifans/103068/?_r=true
rhys ifans joins

secretsociety92
10/07/11, 01:07 AM
Looking like it might be called SkyFall.

jbaseball44
10/11/11, 05:45 PM
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/javier-bardem-confirms-he-ll-be-a-bond-villain?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=totalfilm&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0&_r=true
bardem confirms he'll be in it

Jason Tate
10/11/11, 05:46 PM
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/javier-bardem-confirms-he-ll-be-a-bond-villain?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=totalfilm&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0&_r=true
bardem confirms he'll be in it
:jawdrop:

jbaseball44
10/11/11, 05:48 PM
:jawdrop:
bardem, ifans, and fiennes (if he's eventually confirmed) are quite the additions

Wings249
10/12/11, 12:48 AM
Love this casting!

jbaseball44
10/30/11, 09:31 AM
http://screenrant.com/albert-finney-james-bond-23-sandy-138121/?_r=true
Albert Finney has been signed for a "big role"

mattyrocks
10/30/11, 10:22 AM
i fucking love it.

majinsharingan
10/30/11, 10:32 AM
I was really hoping Craig wouldn't be in this one...

mattyrocks
10/30/11, 11:25 AM
I was really hoping Craig wouldn't be in this one...

why.

majinsharingan
10/30/11, 02:27 PM
why.

He's an awful bond. I want some more Pierce.

mattyrocks
10/30/11, 02:31 PM
He's an awful bond. I want some more Pierce.

pssh.

pierce is a bitch.

majinsharingan
10/30/11, 02:41 PM
pssh.

pierce is a bitch.

Eh, still a lot better than Craig as Bond.

mattyrocks
10/30/11, 02:44 PM
Eh, still a lot better than Craig as Bond.

craig is a refreshing take on bond.

which is why he is my favorite.

majinsharingan
10/30/11, 02:48 PM
craig is a refreshing take on bond.

which is why he is my favorite.

Eh, I don't think changing the idea of Bond to make it more actiony rather than stealthy is not that refreshing.

mattyrocks
10/30/11, 03:19 PM
Eh, I don't think changing the idea of Bond to make it more actiony rather than stealthy is not that refreshing.

agree to disagree.

Jason Tate
10/30/11, 05:11 PM
He's an awful bond. I want some more Pierce.
Oh dear. Glad this is the minority opinion.

spiffa0
10/30/11, 05:15 PM
Already sounds better than Quantum

jbaseball44
10/30/11, 05:16 PM
yeah more pierce brosnan is exactly what we need

HarryPotter
10/30/11, 05:21 PM
This film is in speculation hell.

drudo182
10/30/11, 06:37 PM
Been meaning to watch QoS again for so long now. Need to get on that.

A_Time_To_Get
10/31/11, 12:12 AM
The opening sequences for both Craig movies are flat out cinema mastery.

The spider-man like chase scene through the construction yard in Royale and the Aston Martin chase scene in QoS.

Can't wait for what they do in Bond 23.

deanster321
10/31/11, 05:37 AM
He's an awful bond. I want some more Pierce.
http://www.babel.crackerboxpalace.com/gifs/strangelove-wat.gif
Each to their own.

drudo182
10/31/11, 07:39 AM
lol

version2x0
10/31/11, 09:31 AM
hahaha

secretsociety92
11/03/11, 02:05 AM
Details are being announced later today, can't wait.

deanster321
11/03/11, 05:04 AM
Title just now confirmed to be Skyfall, Fiennes and a few other actors confirmed. Lots of stuff coming through right now.

drudo182
11/03/11, 08:19 AM
Pretty excited at all this info being released!

jbaseball44
11/03/11, 08:54 AM
filming locations seem interesting, should make for some beautiful scenes

jwicklun
11/03/11, 09:34 AM
A theme by Adele would be pretty awesome.

jwicklun
11/03/11, 09:36 AM
Also, I wonder if John Cleese is going to return, or rather they are going to ignore the cheesy gadgetry in this one as well.

secretsociety92
11/03/11, 10:37 AM
The cheesy gadgetry is one thing I miss from the recent ones, some of the most memorable scenes from James Bond have involved his gadgets.

drudo182
11/03/11, 11:19 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/4116/original/skyfall.jpg?1320336788

cshadows2887
11/03/11, 11:26 AM
Really hoping for a bounceback. Quantum was thoroughly underwhelming. Especially coming after arguably the best movie in the series.

Is Bardem the best actor to ever play a Bond villain? There have been some very good ones (Walken, Pleasance, Shaw, Pryce, Mikkelsen, Savalas, Joudan, Lee, Kotto) but I think Javier might take the cake.

Jason Tate
11/03/11, 11:29 AM
After re-watching QoS, I think it's because of how good Casino was that it's looked down on. Questionable camera work, but a decent movie. Better than most of the Pierce ones, at least.

I'm pumped for this ... Mendes is a good director, great bad-guy, and Craig is as good of a Bond we could have. I am hoping they give Chris Nolan a shot at a Bond movie one of these days though.

jwicklun
11/03/11, 11:32 AM
After re-watching QoS, I think it's because of how good Casino was that it's looked down on. Questionable camera work, but a decent movie. Better than most of the Pierce ones, at least.

I'm pumped for this ... Mendes is a good director, great bad-guy, and Craig is as good of a Bond we could have. I am hoping they give Chris Nolan a shot at a Bond movie one of these days though.

Seems like Nolan really really wants to do a Bond haha.

Jason Tate
11/03/11, 11:33 AM
Seems like Nolan really really wants to do a Bond haha.
That's what I've read. I would love for them to give him reign to do one - with Craig.

cshadows2887
11/03/11, 11:37 AM
The combination of the crappy camera-work and it basically being a filler story to bridge him to being "Bond" just handcuffs that movie so badly.

deanster321
11/03/11, 11:58 AM
Really hoping for a bounceback. Quantum was thoroughly underwhelming. Especially coming after arguably the best movie in the series.

Is Bardem the best actor to ever play a Bond villain? There have been some very good ones (Walken, Pleasance, Shaw, Pryce, Mikkelsen, Savalas, Joudan, Lee, Kotto) but I think Javier might take the cake.
He's up there. A ridiculously good piece of casting imo.

secretsociety92
11/03/11, 01:48 PM
I'm probably in the minority here but I liked QoS almost as much as Casino Royale but neither of them come close to being my favorite Bond movie.

neo506
11/03/11, 06:31 PM
The offical synopsis of the plot reads, "Bond’s loyalty to M is tested as her past comes back to her. As MI6 comes under attack, 007 must track down and destroy the threat, no matter how personal the cost."

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/4116/original/skyfall.jpg

Says Mendes, "SKYFALL is its own story. It doesn't connect with the first two films."


Full, unedited press conference
http://youtube.com/Mi724khLAfE

jbaseball44
12/07/11, 04:25 PM
http://collider.com/daniel-craig-quantum-of-solace-script-problems/130951/?_r=true
craig on script problems in the last movie

Time Out: It seems that the script is sometimes an after-thought on huge productions.

Craig: "Yes and you swear that you’ll never get involved with shit like that, and it happens. On “Quantum”, we were fucked. We had the bare bones of a script and then there was a writers’ strike and there was nothing we could do. We couldn’t employ a writer to finish it. I say to myself, “Never again”, but who knows? There was me trying to rewrite scenes – and a writer I am not."

Time Out: You had to rewrite scenes yourself?

Craig: ‘Me and the director [Marc Forster] were the ones allowed to do it. The rules were that you couldn’t employ anyone as a writer, but the actor and director could work on scenes together. We were stuffed. We got away with it, but only just. It was never meant to be as much of a sequel as it was, but it ended up being a sequel, starting where the last one finished.’

jwicklun
12/07/11, 04:32 PM
http://collider.com/daniel-craig-quantum-of-solace-script-problems/130951/?_r=true
craig on script problems in the last movie

Time Out: It seems that the script is sometimes an after-thought on huge productions.

Craig: "Yes and you swear that you’ll never get involved with shit like that, and it happens. On “Quantum”, we were fucked. We had the bare bones of a script and then there was a writers’ strike and there was nothing we could do. We couldn’t employ a writer to finish it. I say to myself, “Never again”, but who knows? There was me trying to rewrite scenes – and a writer I am not."

Time Out: You had to rewrite scenes yourself?

Craig: ‘Me and the director [Marc Forster] were the ones allowed to do it. The rules were that you couldn’t employ anyone as a writer, but the actor and director could work on scenes together. We were stuffed. We got away with it, but only just. It was never meant to be as much of a sequel as it was, but it ended up being a sequel, starting where the last one finished.’

Well that explains it...

jbaseball44
12/07/11, 04:34 PM
yeah if that's true it's pretty ridiculous

Matt Chylak
12/07/11, 07:32 PM
surprised the movie came out as well as it did, given that interview

jbaseball44
12/19/11, 02:49 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/daniel-craig-talks-star-five-275256?_r=true
craig in talks for 5 more films

thesollopsist
12/19/11, 03:58 PM
Interesting.

secretsociety92
12/19/11, 03:59 PM
If he is in talks for that many more films then they are going down the Roger Moore path of being old enough to be the father of the women he does it with.

Matt Chylak
12/23/11, 11:36 AM
whoa, that's weird. never saw him sticking around that long.

Recovery Room
12/23/11, 12:05 PM
As much as I love Craig as Bond, I was really only hoping for this one and maybe another to follow so they could then move on to Fassbender.

jwicklun
12/23/11, 12:16 PM
As much as I love Craig as Bond, I was really only hoping for this one and maybe another to follow so they could then move on to Fassbender.

I was hoping for at least 2-3 more from Craig, then Fassbender would be a fantastic addition.

Jason Tate
12/23/11, 12:30 PM
We know Craig is good. Fassbender might be good. I'd rather have a sure thing.

Recovery Room
12/23/11, 02:05 PM
We know Craig is good. Fassbender might be good. I'd rather have a sure thing.
That's a good point too. I just think the same actor in a role for too long can get stale. Three films (e.g. Bale as Wayne/Batman) seems just about right. Either way, I'll take Craig as Bond as long as he's up for it.

Jason Tate
12/23/11, 02:09 PM
That's a good point too. I just think the same actor in a role for too long can get stale. Three films (e.g. Bale as Wayne/Batman) seems just about right. Either way, I'll take Craig as Bond as long as he's up for it.
So many different variables in play with all of it. I like Fassbender too. He was the best part of First Class, by far.

Recovery Room
12/23/11, 02:21 PM
So many different variables in play with all of it. I like Fassbender too. He was the best part of First Class, by far.
Oh, totally. That scene when he's in the Venezuelan (?) bar is easily one of my favorites scenes in any movie this year. Actually, it's that scene that made me think he'd be a perfect Bond.

drudo182
01/13/12, 01:38 PM
http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/james-bond-skyfall-swimming.jpg

neo506
01/13/12, 02:59 PM
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/lillybythesea/celebrity-gifs-sounds-logical.gif

jwicklun
01/13/12, 03:06 PM
Dat back.

JinxRemoving
01/13/12, 03:07 PM
Thank you so much for that.

Jason Tate
01/13/12, 03:24 PM
Dude is ripped.

aolsux
01/13/12, 05:01 PM
Craig does a great job as Bond, he's a good modern day apparent to Connery, maybe a bit too glaring at times but he fits the bill. Mendes is a wonderful director who has turned many classics in my mind, if someone could capture Ian Fleming's style (which always is a qualm I have with the Bond franchise) Mendes would be the man.

/film elitism

secretsociety92
05/17/12, 03:33 PM
First trailer being released Monday, can't wait.

BottleRocket
05/17/12, 03:42 PM
I was listening to The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo commentary and Fincher seemed to really love working with Craig, which makes me hope he would direct the Bond film after Skyfall. It may not seem like "his thing" but I know he could direct the hell out of anything.

drudo182
05/17/12, 03:49 PM
Fincher has expressed interest in doing several action films so a Bond film wouldn't be too out there. He would rock it up.

i like apples
05/18/12, 01:35 AM
Praying it'll be better than Quantum, but I feel as if that isn't too difficult of a task.

SilenceBrokenTT
05/18/12, 01:36 AM
Really excited for Skyfall. Loved Casino Royale but couldn't get past the first 10 mins of QoS, think it's worth trying to watch again?

i like apples
05/18/12, 01:39 AM
Really excited for Skyfall. Loved Casino Royale but couldn't get past the first 10 mins of QoS, think it's worth trying to watch again?

It's okay. The editing absolutely kills it for me. That car chase in the beginning is nearly impossible to follow.

SilenceBrokenTT
05/18/12, 01:44 AM
Yeah, I usually dig car chases, but that was really what turned me off.

narcoleptic953
05/18/12, 06:51 AM
It's okay. The editing absolutely kills it for me. That car chase in the beginning is nearly impossible to follow.

Seriously, that might be the most poorly edited blockbuster I've ever seen. Such a headache of a film.

i like apples
05/18/12, 10:53 AM
Seriously, that might be the most poorly edited blockbuster I've ever seen. Such a headache of a film.

Right? I try to explain that to people and they look at me like I'm a moron. There is no pacing at all. I cannot figure out what is going on for so much of this film, especially the beginning. It's jarring.

Jason Tate
05/18/12, 10:57 AM
The writer strike really hurt QOS.

secretsociety92
05/18/12, 11:03 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if I am the biggest fan of QoS on here.

i like apples
05/18/12, 11:19 AM
The writer strike really hurt QOS.

Yeah I did read that a lot of it was improvised on the spot by Craig and Forster. It wasn't awful, but coming off of how good Casino Royale was, I guess we all just expected better.

drudo182
05/18/12, 11:29 AM
Really excited for Skyfall. Loved Casino Royale but couldn't get past the first 10 mins of QoS, think it's worth trying to watch again?

I'd say so. It's not a great movie but it's worthy of finishing, especially if you're a James Bond fan.

Jason Tate
05/18/12, 11:58 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m46omt2oTz1qzdglao1_1280.jpg

i like apples
05/18/12, 11:59 AM
trailer is coming really soon.

jwicklun
05/21/12, 01:07 AM
xJ4dAY3DW4c&feature=channel&list=UL

crashsaturn
05/21/12, 01:35 AM
Not much to go on, but looks good so far.

drudo182
05/21/12, 04:16 AM
Can't wait to see what Roger Deakins does with the look of this.

jusscali
05/21/12, 04:43 AM
LOVE these films.

brentkid
05/21/12, 05:43 AM
teaser was kind of meh. still excited for this though.

jbaseball44
05/21/12, 07:27 AM
guess i'm the only one that thought the teaser was pretty cool. really liked the tone

Kyle Huntington
05/21/12, 07:55 AM
I'm looking forward to it, Craig is a fantastic bond and Casino Royale was superb. Just watched both of his again not long ago actually, still enjoy Quantum Of Solace but obviously nowhere near as good as it should have been.

Recovery Room
05/21/12, 09:20 AM
Love the look, tone, etc. -- can't wait.

josepablo32
05/21/12, 09:57 AM
I liked it, it's not the greatest thing but looks cool.

secretsociety92
05/21/12, 09:57 AM
Loving the look of this, especially the action and the settings.

drudo182
05/21/12, 11:08 AM
I'm looking forward to it, Craig is a fantastic bond and Casino Royale was superb. Just watched both of his again not long ago actually, still enjoy Quantum Of Solace but obviously nowhere near as good as it should have been.

I watched them both back-to-back this past weekend and Quantum works so well when it's paired up directly with Casino. I think it improves greatly after a couple of watches. Love it now.

runningohfive
05/21/12, 11:28 AM
Oh man, after watching that trailer.... I really hope this film exceeds my expectations. Sam Mendes helming, John Logan is one of the screenwriters, and Javier Bardem as the villain. These are good ingredients for a kickass movie.

skibby15
05/21/12, 11:32 AM
stoked for this.

drudo182
05/21/12, 11:42 AM
Fingers crossed that Noel Gallagher does the song for this movie.

amii_G
05/21/12, 11:53 AM
All but confirmed Adele is doing the theme track.

Looks exactly like a teaser trailer should do - cannot wait!

xjulianx89
05/21/12, 12:41 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibvzKltQnvBunn.gif
http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-2ugjix.gif
Deakins is going to own this film.

Jason Tate
05/21/12, 01:04 PM
Looks great. Soon as TDK ends, this is my most anticipated.

jwicklun
05/21/12, 01:11 PM
Yeah the cinematography looks gorgeous in this.

Wake Up
05/21/12, 02:11 PM
definitely going to be the finest looking Bond film ever made.

BottleRocket
05/21/12, 02:13 PM
Never really been as stoked for a Bond film as I am for this.

drudo182
05/21/12, 02:46 PM
All but confirmed Adele is doing the theme track.

Looks exactly like a teaser trailer should do - cannot wait!

Really? Darn.

x1onexwo1fx
05/21/12, 11:29 PM
oh look there's a thread for this. /latepass

teaser looks nice.

are people excited for this one? a lot of people thought Quantum of Solace was a disappointment.

crashsaturn
05/22/12, 12:17 AM
I thought Quantum was really good. If it had come out first after Brosnan's films, I think people would have loved it.

SlappedActor
05/22/12, 12:19 AM
I thought Quantum was really good. If it had come out first after Brosnan's films, I think people would have loved it.

Not to get all nitpicky, but if it had come out first, people probably would have hated it because the plot would make very little sense. It's a direct sequel to Casino Royale.

And it was a damn disappointing one at that.

crashsaturn
05/22/12, 12:26 AM
Not to get all nitpicky, but if it had come out first, people probably would have hated it because the plot would make very little sense. It's a direct sequel to Casino Royale.

And it was a damn disappointing one at that.
I mean, obviously it would have been tweaked a bit for the plot to make sense, were it to stand on its own. But I don't get what was so disappointing outside of a comparison to the film before it.

x1onexwo1fx
05/22/12, 12:26 AM
i don't think i ever understood what made QoS so disappointing for people.

x1onexwo1fx
05/22/12, 12:27 AM
I mean, obviously it would have been tweaked a bit for the plot to make sense, were it to stand on its own. But I don't get what was so disappointing outside of a comparison to the film before it.

exactly.

SlappedActor
05/22/12, 12:29 AM
I mean, obviously it would have been tweaked a bit for the plot to make sense, were it to stand on its own. But I don't get what was so disappointing outside of a comparison to the film before it.

I think it has multiple flaws, but my primary criticism is that it lacks any of the elegance or charm of James Bond's personality, and pretty much just turns him into a conventional action hero.

crashsaturn
05/22/12, 12:36 AM
I think it has multiple flaws, but my primary criticism is that it lacks any of the elegance or charm of James Bond's personality, and pretty much just turns him into a conventional action hero.
I can see that, but I would say it's less a lack of that aspect of his personality than a temporary disposition due to the matter at hand.

SlappedActor
05/22/12, 12:44 AM
I can see that, but I would say it's less a lack of that aspect of his personality than a temporary disposition due to the matter at hand.

Replace Daniel Craig with another actor, and tweak the script so it has no relation to Casino Royale, and you're looking at any other half-decent action movie under the sun. It's not the worst movie ever, but I don't feel like it distinguishes itself in any way, regardless of whether it's being compared to Casino.

crashsaturn
05/22/12, 12:59 AM
Replace Daniel Craig with another actor, and tweak the script so it has no relation to Casino Royale, and you're looking at any other half-decent action movie under the sun. It's not the worst movie ever, but I don't feel like it distinguishes itself in any way, regardless of whether it's being compared to Casino.
I don't quite agree with that, but I think you're also correct in a sense. It's almost out of sync with the Bond franchise, but that may be why I like it. It's just a badass revenge story.

x1onexwo1fx
05/22/12, 01:23 AM
James Bond is human. why can't he want revenge for once? i see the movie more as a "this is how James Bond gets revenge" than as a "let's get lazy and make a typical revenge action movie with a stoic male protagonist, but oh look we can attach it to the 007 franchise so that it sells better."

i like apples
05/22/12, 01:47 AM
Movie will kick major ass.