Medical Marijuana was legalized in NJ!

[applejackss7]

Finally. The Government is finally getting some common sense. First comes medical marijuana and soon after it will be fully legalized. Prohibition did not work in the 1920s and making pot an illicit drug isn't working either. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/nyregion/12marijuana.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw

[xshady121]

Say whaaaaaaaaaaaat


edit: It looks like it is more tough on the diseases than the ones out west. Still though, anything is better than nothing.

[applejackss7]

foshoo.

[Machu505]

Sweet. New Jersey still fucking sucks.

[Mitch]

:appl:

[open mind]

sounds like they went with the stricter alaska type laws instead of the looser california ones. people getting the medication they need to live a somewhat normal life is always a good thing though.

[TinMan20]

Congrats Garden State.

[caveBEAR]

Some educators and law enforcement advocates worked doggedly against the proposal, saying the law would make marijuana more readily available and more likely to be abused, and that it would lead to increased drug use by teenagers.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, are they retarded? It's easier to get weed from your doctor than your local park dealer? Ha ha ha ha ha, in what universe?

[cory-182]

Fucking sooo stoked for this shit bro. Totally sick.

[saysmydoctor]

Well, Christie's weight will just continue to climb. Those damn munchies. And he is such a big dude already.

[TheHoldSteady]

Interestinggg.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Well congrats NJ.
36 to go.

[FueledByFrodo]

Sweet. New Jersey still fucking sucks.
Agreed.

[oldwirehands]

Some educators and law enforcement advocates worked doggedly against the proposal, saying the law would make marijuana more readily available and more likely to be abused, and that it would lead to increased drug use by teenagers.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, are they retarded? It's easier to get weed from your doctor than your local park dealer? Ha ha ha ha ha, in what universe?

I think their concern is with people using their prescriptions to sell the drug/give it to friends, just like all other prescription drugs. Luckily, marijuana is the safest prescribed medicine known in the world. So their concern is still bogus.

[caveBEAR]

I think their concern is with people using their prescriptions to sell the drug/give it to friends, just like all other prescription drugs. Luckily, marijuana is the safest prescribed medicine known in the world. So their concern is still bogus.

Well, I don't know about you, but I think if someone with MS wants to sell weed, who are we to tell them 'no'? They have MS for Christ's sake...

[oldwirehands]

Well, I don't know about you, but I think if someone with MS wants to sell weed, who are we to tell them 'no'? They have MS for Christ's sake...

There could be people who try to get it as a medicine for depression. How many people who take Xanax actually have anxiety problems? This is why our doctors have become legal drug dealers.

[jeremypeele]

Call me crazy but......I think legalizing marijuana would take some of the enjoyment out of doing it. I know in my opinion, part of the joy/excitement/whateveryoucallit of smoking weed is knowing its illegal.

[caveBEAR]

There could be people who try to get it as a medicine for depression. How many people who take Xanax actually have anxiety problems? This is why our doctors have become legal drug dealers.

My point was (and is) if they're concerned about weed being easy to get...well it's a little late for concern.

Call me crazy but......I think legalizing marijuana would take some of the enjoyment out of doing it. I know in my opinion, part of the joy/excitement/whateveryoucallit of smoking weed is knowing its illegal.

Call me crazy but...I like the THC more.

[oldwirehands]

My point was (and is) if they're concerned about weed being easy to get...well it's a little late for concern.



Call me crazy but...I like the THC more.

Totally, which is why I am for full legalization. Its much harder for kids and teens to get a hold of a drug when you have to go through a licensed distributor in order to buy it.

[caveBEAR]

Totally, which is why I am for full legalization. Its much harder for kids and teens to get a hold of a drug when you have to go through a licensed distributor in order to buy it.

It's a shame it's so misunderstood and reviled, I had major focusing and concentration issues all through school (still have them now) and if the situation was different, maybe I could have had some medical marijuana as a natural Ritalin. :shrug:

[oldwirehands]

It's a shame it's so misunderstood and reviled, I had major focusing and concentration issues all through school (still have them now) and if the situation was different, maybe I could have had some medical marijuana as a natural Ritalin. :shrug:

Same with me. I didn't start using pot until I was 18 and already out of school. Planning to go to college in the fall and I'm sure I will be high for almost every class.

[COREhorizon]

Their only doing this so they can cope with Jersey Shore. I mean, they suffer enough because of their disease, they shouldn't have to suffer while watching TV too.

[caveBEAR]

Same with me. I didn't start using pot until I was 18 and already out of school. Planning to go to college in the fall and I'm sure I will be high for almost every class.

Ha ha ha ha ha, holy fuck, are you me?

That's almost the exact same thing for me, except I slowly fell out of college, started working in a restaurant...and the rest is history. Now I am getting back in to college. Ha ha ha ha, I could barely stay focused long enough to tie my sneakers in high school.

[oldwirehands]

Ha ha ha ha ha, holy fuck, are you me?

That's almost the exact same thing for me, except I slowly fell out of college, started working in a restaurant...and the rest is history. Now I am getting back in to college. Ha ha ha ha, I could barely stay focused long enough to tie my sneakers in high school.

I had a lot of issues in high school. It got to a point where I just had to drop out and get a GED. Never stopped the pursuit of an education though. I probably learned more on my own than in school hahaha. I'm pretty pumped about going back to school though.

[Oddpac87]

Sweet. New Jersey still fucking sucks.
:lol:Says the person from West Virginia.

[Machu505]

:lol:Says the person from West Virginia.
Well I hate the beach, love the mountains, and we don't have any guidos. I don't see how I lose this one.

[c1rcaiff27]

Sweet. New Jersey still fucking sucks.
and im sure west virginia is a paradise

[caveBEAR]

I had a lot of issues in high school. It got to a point where I just had to drop out and get a GED. Never stopped the pursuit of an education though. I probably learned more on my own than in school hahaha. I'm pretty pumped about going back to school though.

Same thing. I always loved learning, but it needed to come in the form of some kind of project or a History Show, etc., Bill Nye kind of crap, because you could never get me to sit still long enough to read a textbook. Hell, I could barely sit still long enough to read books I wanted to read.

Now I'm excited to go back because my 'Ritalin' allows me to slow down and focus on tedious shit like studying. Some people take for granted being able to do that.

[zeketheplumber]

Sweet. New Jersey still fucking sucks.

why does everyone say this? not that i disagree, but...

[saysmydoctor]

Well I hate the beach, love the mountains, and we don't have any guidos. I don't see how I lose this one.
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha A+

[caveBEAR]

Jersey has guidos...? You do learn something everyday...

[BlowinBubbles]

Well I hate the beach, love the mountains, and we don't have any guidos. I don't see how I lose this one.

I could plug stereotypes too says the kid from West Virginia where the primary form of procreation is incest.

[ADDisfunforme]

I could plug stereotypes too says the kid from West Virginia where the primary form of procreation is incest.


West Virginian Mountainside Shack, coming to MTV next fall!

[Sloth7]

I am not pro legalizing marijuana in general, which I realize isn't the popular opinion on here, but I do think it is good people who are sick and in pain can find some relief now. I would never wanna deny someone terminally ill to feel better, but I really hope this isn't one step closer to fully legalizing it.

[murrich]

I am not pro legalizing marijuana in general, which I realize isn't the popular opinion on here, but I do think it is good people who are sick and in pain can find some relief now. I would never wanna deny someone terminally ill to feel better, but I really hope this isn't one step closer to fully legalizing it.

Why?

[kwsqd]

LOL @ the people from jersey getting e-hurt over anti-NJ comments

[c1rcaiff27]

people need to realize that 'jersey shore' is not a accurate representation of the state has a whole, the majority of those dudes and the people who go to seaside over summer for that matter aren't even from the state.

/thread hijack

[whenyourearound]

LOL @ the people from jersey getting e-hurt over anti-NJ comments

pennsylvania fucking sucks

[kwsqd]

pennsylvania fucking sucks
hahaha

[<*)))><]

Being from Jersey means you wish you were born in New York.

[whenyourearound]

hahaha

lolzzz

[kwsqd]

lolzzz
don't let people bully you around on the internet so much, chin up.

[whenyourearound]

yes sir, will do. thats what us people from NJ are doing. dont know why everyone always shits on NJ.

[roobsterfoo]

Jersey has guidos...? You do learn something everyday...
there mostly more on the north side of jersey. south side is filled more with rich/middleclass white people. plus we got philly. north has NY

[roobsterfoo]

I am not pro legalizing marijuana in general, which I realize isn't the popular opinion on here, but I do think it is good people who are sick and in pain can find some relief now. I would never wanna deny someone terminally ill to feel better, but I really hope this isn't one step closer to fully legalizing it.
i feel like sooner or later the situation will be somewhat similar to when alcohol was illegal back in the 1920's. then just one day it will be legal. i think its kinda silly how alcohol/drugs are legal which could have a long term damaging effect on your body as opposed to the Ganj which has none...

[roobsterfoo]

yes sir, will do. thats what us people from NJ are doing. dont know why everyone always shits on NJ.
we are a main target especially now since jersey shore is on the air. doesnt really surprise me how much people are bashing the state

[whenyourearound]

we are a main target especially now since jersey shore is on the air. doesnt really surprise me how much people are bashing the state

ahhhh yes you're right. its that goddamn jersey shore that kills us.

[(infinite)]

you know what state really fucking sucks? Oklahoma. it'll be a cold day in hell when marijuana is legal here.

[BrandnewBrendan]

Nj doesn't suck
it is a good step forward
after this passing I am surprised Gay marriage wasn't passed recently

[BlowinBubbles]

Being from Jersey means you wish you were born in New York.

false

[TerrancePryor]

Nj doesn't suck
it is a good step forward
after this passing I am surprised Gay marriage wasn't passed recently

Christie said that he would not legalize gay marriage in NJ.

[kwsqd]

haters gotta hate

[<*)))><]

false
No it is true your just in denial, who would want to live in a state with such a terrible odor?

[WakingTheMisery]

This thread went in a very different direction than I thought it would.

[oh...rly]

Who would want to live in a state with such a terrible odor?

You come up with that all by yourself?

[c1rcaiff27]

No it is true your just in denial, who would want to live in a state with such a terrible odor?
you mean the rotten egg stench that comes over from staten island?

[Colin1755]

Being from Jersey means you wish you were born in New York.
your a fucking idiot, id much rather be from new jersey than new york.

[Colin1755]

you mean the rotten egg stench that comes over from staten island?
lmao thats so true and what ppl dont get is in like central asnd south nj it is like any other state we get our abd rep form upstate jersey which blows.

[kwsqd]

your a fucking idiot, id much rather be from new jersey than new york.
you're*

[saysmydoctor]

your a fucking idiot, id much rather be from new jersey than new york.
English education in New Jersey has apparently declined, I knew reading scores were a shitty metric--how can you trust A B C or D?!

[c1rcaiff27]

lmao thats so true and what ppl dont get is in like central asnd south nj it is like any other state we get our abd rep form upstate jersey which blows.
i used to live in north jersey and when the wind blew the wrong way it smelt like rotten eggs, i currently live in south jersey and when the wind blows the wrong way it smells like cow shit from a dairy farm nearby... win some, lose some i guess

[<*)))><]

you mean the rotten egg stench that comes over from staten island?
No that belongs to jersey and if it came from staten island how comes it doesn't smell?

your a fucking idiot, id much rather be from new jersey than new york.
The only good thing that came from jersey is Gabe, he is not pretty annoying still doing the soulja boy. Ohh and by the way you're, idiot. http://www.yourserverjustgothacked.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/youre.jpg

[Neo Cassady]

Some educators and law enforcement advocates worked doggedly against the proposal, saying the law would make marijuana more readily available and more likely to be abused, and that it would lead to increased drug use by teenagers.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, are they retarded? It's easier to get weed from your doctor than your local park dealer? Ha ha ha ha ha, in what universe?

Stupid. I'm an educator who plans to vote for legalisation in Ohio if it ever comes up. A lot of good can come from it, both from a medical and an economical (especially if legalised for recreational use and regulated/taxed) standpoint.



and re: the NJ/NY argument. Springsteen said it best:

Tge61eU8Na8

[ghelms88]

Happy to see medical marijuana is finally legalized in this state. My dad uses it after having 4 back surgeries in 10 years. This will finally ween him off the painkillers he's taking now.

[Machu505]

I could plug stereotypes too says the kid from West Virginia where the primary form of procreation is incest.
Right. This is only right after we're finished hunting and the sop is hot enough.

They call them beanies up there and not toboggans, right?

[Colin1755]

since when did everyone on ap.net become the fucking grammar police jesus fucking christ.

[paper halo]

Since when did everyone on ap.net become the fucking grammar police? Jesus fucking Christ.

You're welcome. Though it's still an awful excuse for a post.

[caveBEAR]

Since when did everyone on ap.net become the fucking grammar police? Jesus fucking Christ.

You're welcome. Though it's still an awful excuse for a post.

'Christ' is proper!

[paper halo]

'Christ' is proper!

I ammended it when I realised I'd missed it. :-p

This kid just made a thread about how much he hates grammar nazis. It's closed now, but it was entertaining while it lasted.

[apsterling]

since when did everyone on ap.net become the fucking grammar police jesus fucking christ.

Because we'd prefer that the language we speak isn't y'know, totally destroyed.

[paper halo]

Because we'd prefer that the language we speak isn't y'know, totally destroyed.

No point, dude. He's been banned now.

[apsterling]

I did not know that. Well, I guess it's for the better.

[rj reynolds]

In the 1920's, during prohibition, medical alcohol was granted for people with bogus illnesses, just as today with bud. I can never understand how the fed can make weed illegal but nicotine legal. Nicotine kills hundreds of thousands more people annually, if not millions.

But anyway, good for New Jersey! Pennsylvania just did the same.

[kwsqd]

In the 1920's, during prohibition, medical alcohol was granted for people with bogus illnesses, just as today with bud. I can never understand how the fed can make weed illegal but nicotine legal. Nicotine kills hundreds of thousands more people annually, if not millions.

But anyway, good for New Jersey! Pennsylvania just did the same.
link?

[rj reynolds]

link?

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/611/pennsylvania_medical_marijuana_hear ing

There was a misuse of tense. They are doing it; they haven't done it.

[wroteurname]

So it is agreed Connecticut is the best of the tri-states. Go on with your squabble for second place.

[rj reynolds]

So it is agreed Connecticut is the best of the tri-states. Go on with your squabble for second place.

It is widely understood that any state from New York to Arizona generally sucks, with maybe 3 exceptions. New England and the Pacific are amazing.

[wroteurname]

It is widely understood that any state from New York to Arizona generally sucks, with maybe 3 exceptions. New England and the Pacific are amazing.

:wave:

[Jennurna Gray]

I'm still waiting for legalization of recreational maryj.

[roobsterfoo]

i used to live in north jersey and when the wind blew the wrong way it smelt like rotten eggs, i currently live in south jersey and when the wind blows the wrong way it smells like cow shit from a dairy farm nearby... win some, lose some i guess
yo where in south jersey? im from cinnaminson

[MyNameIsRoss]

hate when people don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

[c1rcaiff27]

yo where in south jersey? im from cinnaminson
burlington twp... i have a few friends from cinnaminson

[Selkies]

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/611/pennsylvania_medical_marijuana_hear ing

There was a misuse of tense. They are doing it; they haven't done it.

Thanks for that link. Good to know.

[KidRobot]

there mostly more on the north side of jersey. south side is filled more with rich/middleclass white people. plus we got philly. north has NY

lolwuttttt.

South=Camden/white trash farmland/Philly garbage

I can assure you there's alot more middle class up north than down south.

[roobsterfoo]

so what your telling me is that white trash farmland isnt even considered part of rich/middleclass at all? do you realize how much money you need to run a farm? i dont care if there is more of anything i was leaning towards more of the point of the guido stereotype anyways.

[SubStylee]

Man I'm glad to hear that!

[zion the lion]

And y'all act like medical marijuana being legalized automatically gives you the right to smoke a bowl on your front lawns like a bunch of hicks. This gives some sick people some tiny relief which is hardly enough but good for them, its not like they need other things in life, like cures...no marijuana which will eventually lead to your freedom to smoke in the front lawn so that you dont have to feel so paranoid is all that matters.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

And y'all act like medical marijuana being legalized automatically gives you the right to smoke a bowl on your front lawns like a bunch of hicks. This gives some sick people some tiny relief which is hardly enough but good for them, its not like they need other things in life, like cures...no marijuana which will eventually lead to your freedom to smoke in the front lawn so that you dont have to feel so paranoid is all that matters.

You're just jealous that none of your peers offered you some marijuana.

[zion the lion]

You're just jealous that none of your peers offered you some marijuana.

My dad lives a lifestyle that is knee deep in drugs. My mom is a rehab counselor. My uncle is a pimp. I know a couple of people who actually get medical marijuana...I think I could have gotten it if I wanted.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

My dad lives a lifestyle that is knee deep in drugs. My mom is a rehab counselor. My uncle is a pimp. I know a couple of people who actually get medical marijuana...I think I could have gotten it if I wanted.

You Lie!

http://kellylowenstein.files.wordpress.com /2009/09/joe-wilson-you-lie-photo.jpg

[zion the lion]

You Lie!

http://kellylowenstein.files.wordpress.com /2009/09/joe-wilson-you-lie-photo.jpg

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[Jake Gyllenhaal]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd87/sugarfiend06/boo-man.gif

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[zion the lion]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwpq92KDdG1qzerqlo1_250.gif

I'm not actually sure what that facial expression means

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I'm not actually sure what that facial expression means

You're a smug, unhappy little girl who treats people as if they were idiots.

[zion the lion]

You're a smug, unhappy little girl who treats people as if they were idiots.

Correction, I treat stoners like idiots when they think that medical marijuana being legalized in one state means that they can toke it up freely before heading off to work or class.
And what makes you think I'm unhappy?

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Correction, I treat stoners like idiots when they think that medical marijuana being legalized in one state means that they can toke it up freely before heading off to work or class.
And what makes you think I'm unhappy?

1) Marijuana legalization and regulation will occur in our lifetime. So even recreational users will freely smoke up in the privacy of their own home.
2) You're unhappy based on your history of posting on these forums. You feel the need to interject every aspect of your personal experiences, trying to gain any type of acceptance. You tell your little stories, want people to listen, and when they get mad and react, you revel in their critical responses. You love returning to the forums to read how others respond. You get a hard on just from saysyourdoctor's responses. To me, that just shows how much you depend on reaching out to strangers on the web for any source of human interaction.

[open mind]

1) Marijuana legalization and regulation will occur in our lifetime. So even recreational users will freely smoke up in the privacy of their own home.
2) You're unhappy based on your history of posting on these forums. You feel the need to interject every aspect of your personal experiences, trying to gain any type of acceptance. You tell your little stories, want people to listen, and when they get mad and react, you revel in their critical responses. You love returning to the forums to read how others respond. You get a hard on just from saysyourdoctor's responses. To me, that just shows how much you depend on reaching out to strangers on the web for any source of human interaction.

i'll add that she made some rather unfounded assumptions about those who've posted in this thread.......and she likes posting about killing herself every few weeks in the mental disorder thread.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

i'll add that she made some rather unfounded assumptions about those who've posted in this thread.......and she likes posting about killing herself every few weeks in the mental disorder thread.

She should consider joining the Church of Scientology, where a regime of certain vitamins will cure her of her post-partum depression. Xenu-forbid she gets into psychiatric-prescribed drugs... they are the DEVIL!

[zion the lion]

1) Marijuana legalization and regulation will occur in our lifetime. So even recreational users will freely smoke up in the privacy of their own home.
2) You're unhappy based on your history of posting on these forums. You feel the need to interject every aspect of your personal experiences, trying to gain any type of acceptance. You tell your little stories, want people to listen, and when they get mad and react, you revel in their critical responses. You love returning to the forums to read how others respond. You get a hard on just from saysyourdoctor's responses. To me, that just shows how much you depend on reaching out to strangers on the web for any source of human interaction.

1. And? It doesnt automatically give them the freedom to do it in public
a. I find the need for medical marijuana and the need to find a cure for these people so that they dont have to use this to be more important than the "right" for recreational users to smoke freely

2. It's nice to see that you think you know it all but you are so horribly and sadly confused.
a. I'm satisfied enough with my life, if I was unhappy, I'd do something to fix it
b. I'll tell my personal experiences as a way to give people insight on my opinions or as a way to connect with people and let them know I've been through what they're going through so that they dont feel alone. Not to get people to listen and definitely not to gain acceptance. It would be pretty fucking pathetic of me to need that from the internet when I have other humans all around me if I really needed that.
c. No, in fact I'm a pretty sensitive person and words do upset me very much, I actually hurts when I get called a liar after giving advice.
d. I'm not exactly sure what a 19 year old boy who I've never met has to do with me at all.
e. Try again, by using the internet, I think I'm doing the opposite.

3. You however have a need for acceptance by jumping on the anonymous aggression bandwagon and bitching me out for no reason at all. Knowing only gross exaggerations and the manipulations of what I've said you've made a pathetic assumption of me and if you want so badly to be accepted, just go up to saysmydoctor and suck his dick yourself instead of playing dr phil and trying to detract from the actual subject and making it another flame thread that will surly be blamed on me.

[zion the lion]

i'll add that she made some rather unfounded assumptions about those who've posted in this thread.......and she likes posting about killing herself every few weeks in the mental disorder thread.

I am open about suicide both in my real life and in a thread about mental disorders (most of which have symptoms that include thoughts of suicide) I see no problem with it, I see no problem with talking about it openly instead of keeping it a taboo and acting like it never happens. But whatever, its not a fucking problem at all, certainly not in the state that we live in you fucking asshole.

By the way, did I say my "assumptions" were about the people in this thread? Hmmm nope.

[open mind]

I am open about suicide both in my real life and in a thread about mental disorders (most of which have symptoms that include thoughts of suicide) I see no problem with it, I see no problem with talking about it openly instead of keeping it a taboo and acting like it never happens. But whatever, its not a fucking problem at all, certainly not in the state that we live in you fucking asshole.

By the way, did I say my "assumptions" were about the people in this thread? Hmmm nope.

that paragraph has nothing to do with anything but for the record i don't mind talking about suicide (if you feel like offing yourself it's probably best to talk to those close to you and a professional about it though)....my point was that those who consider suicide generally aren't happy with their lives.

you said something like "i like how y'all act like this means you can smoke in your front yards now" (when no one was acting like that). if y'all wasn't supposed to mean the people in this thread who exactly were you referring to?

[zion the lion]

that paragraph has nothing to do with anything but for the record i don't mind talking about suicide (if you feel like offing yourself it's probably best to talk to a professional about it though)....my point was that those who consider suicide generally aren't happy with their lives.

you said i like how y'all act like this means you can smoke now. if y'all wasn't supposed to mean the people in this thread who exactly were you referring to?

It seemed to me like the "she likes to talk about suicide every few weeks" would be more of trying to validate all of his stupidity.

Y'all as in everyone who's excited about this.

edit: that doesnt really matter though, I got side tracked by who I was or was not making assumptions about that I completely forgot the fact that I wasnt making assumptions in the first place, people on this site have said that they'd like to smoke outside instead of being paranoid inside. That being said, I did let my anger on this subject get the best of me.

[open mind]

It seemed to me like the "she likes to talk about suicide every few weeks" would be more of trying to validate all of his stupidity.

Y'all as in everyone who's excited about this.

edit: that doesnt really matter though, I got side tracked by who I was or was not making assumptions about that I completely forgot the fact that I wasnt making assumptions in the first place, people on this site have said that they'd like to smoke outside instead of being paranoid inside. That being said, I did let my anger on this subject get the best of me.

i was mostly just answering your question about why he might think you're unhappy....but i don't think he was that far off the mark.

i don't know if making generalizations about large parts of the population (proponents of medical marijuana) makes you smug but it certainly doesn't make you look intelligent.

[zion the lion]

i was mostly just answering your question about why he might think you're unhappy....but i don't think he was that far off the mark.

i don't know if making generalizations about large parts of the population (proponents of medical marijuana) makes you smug but it certainly doesn't make you look intelligent.

Given the fact that I have a long history with it, I'll admit whatever if that's the case, but the fact of the matter is that I've made the decision to try again, and that decision has made me way happier.

That wasnt even the point of my original post, my point was that it was upsetting that people were getting excited about getting closer to gaining the freedom to have some recreational pot time when medical marijuana should be more about the diseases it's supposed to help.

[zion the lion]

WTF. I laughed so hard at this silliness

I've said plenty of times that I have a couple of friends who are in that business. How do you think I know them? And do you realize that they use drugs right?

[caveBEAR]

And y'all act like medical marijuana being legalized automatically gives you the right to smoke a bowl on your front lawns like a bunch of hicks. This gives some sick people some tiny relief which is hardly enough but good for them, its not like they need other things in life, like cures...no marijuana which will eventually lead to your freedom to smoke in the front lawn so that you dont have to feel so paranoid is all that matters.

Nobody acted like potential legalization in Jersey gave us 'hicks' (fuck you, by the way) the right to smoke in our front lawns. We're all educated enough to know that this is merely one of the first steps towards legalization. As well, I didn't know that my dislike towards the illegality of weed was mutually exclusive to my empathy towards those with diseases. I thought they could live hand in hand, maybe even share a jay with a cancer patient, you know, shoot the shit.

Correction, I treat stoners like idiots when they think that medical marijuana being legalized in one state means that they can toke it up freely before heading off to work or class.

Correction, you're the only one who thought that, and in a wonderful comedic twist, you got really pissed off at everyone else for no one else feeling that way.

1. And? It doesnt automatically give them the freedom to do it in public
a. I find the need for medical marijuana and the need to find a cure for these people so that they dont have to use this to be more important than the "right" for recreational users to smoke freely.

1. No shit.
a. Marijuana is a natural substance. It grows from seeds that I can find in the Earth. That's all the 'right' I need to smoke it as a human on this planet, and no person or government can tell me different.

By the way, did I say my "assumptions" were about the people in this thread? Hmmm nope.

Your assumption was a word for word recount of a post of mine (I used the exact 'sitting on my lawn' example), however, it wasn't from this thread.

Thank you so much for labeling me as a hick, it'd be a shame if after reading this entire diatribe I had to label you something, too.

[zion the lion]

Nobody acted like potential legalization in Jersey gave us 'hicks' (fuck you, by the way) the right to smoke in our front lawns. We're all educated enough to know that this is merely one of the first steps towards legalization. As well, I didn't know that my dislike towards the illegality of weed was mutually exclusive to my empathy towards those with diseases. I thought they could live hand in hand, maybe even share a jay with a cancer patient, you know, shoot the shit.



Correction, you're the only one who thought that, and in a wonderful comedic twist, you got really pissed off at everyone else for no one else feeling that way.



1. No shit.
a. Marijuana is a natural substance. It grows from seeds that I can find in the Earth. That's all the 'right' I need to smoke it as a human on this planet, and no person or government can tell me different.



Your assumption was a word for word recount of a post of mine (I used the exact 'sitting on my lawn' example), however, it wasn't from this thread.

Thank you so much for labeling me as a hick, it'd be a shame if after reading this entire diatribe I had to label you something, too.

Once again, you completely missed the point of my post but okie dokie, have a nice day yogi

[caveBEAR]

Once again, you completely missed the point of my post but okie dokie, have a nice day yogi

Then what was the point of your post? That people apparently either have to support sick people or smoke marijuana? Or the thinly veiled hint that anyone who would smoke in public is a 'hick'? Or was it you suggesting that everyone thought legalization in Jersey for medical marijuana meant that next week we could smoke in front of cops, when no one suggested that?

I guess I missed the point somewhere in there, so can you clear it up for me?

[zion the lion]

Then what was the point of your post? That people apparently either have to support sick people or smoke marijuana? Or the thinly veiled hint that anyone who would smoke in public is a 'hick'? Or was it you suggesting that everyone thought legalization in Jersey for medical marijuana meant that next week we could smoke in front of cops, when no one suggested that?

I guess I missed the point somewhere in there, so can you clear it up for me?

Well Yogi, it's sad that theres more excitement about the future of the legality of marijuana than there is any discussion whatsoever of the diseases get people medical marijuana in the first place, or even how much it helps with those diseases.

If you smoke a jay on your front lawn with a cancer patient and call it bonding or say thats your way of support, then whatever. But I can promise you, if my MS ever gets to the point where I need it and someone comes up to me and says "hey I totally feel for you, I want to help you out and support you and bond with you, I brought my own ganja how about we just chill on the front lawn" I'll start choking that person on the spot.

[caveBEAR]

Well Yogi, it's sad that theres more excitement about the future of the legality of marijuana than there is any discussion whatsoever of the diseases get people medical marijuana in the first place, or even how much it helps with those diseases.

If you smoke a jay on your front lawn with a cancer patient and call it bonding or say thats your way of support, then whatever. But I can promise you, if my MS ever gets to the point where I need it and someone comes up to me and says "hey I totally feel for you, I want to help you out and support you and bond with you, I brought my own ganja how about we just chill on the front lawn" I'll start choking that person on the spot.

Are you serious?



You know why no one is talking about the diseases that people have that they treat with medical marijuana?

1.) We're not doctors.
2.) We're not sick.
3.) We don't care.
4.) No one brought it up until you freaked out about it.
5.) It's not that big a deal.
6.) I don't see your whole problem here.

I just need you to clarify so I can understand;

You interpreted people's excitement over the loosening of medical marijuana laws as something selfish? You do realize the excitement was over the fact that lawmakers are starting to legalize/talk about marijuana in a different light as (most people agree) weed should at least be decriminalized.

To see lawmakers legalizing pot made us excited because that meant that lawmakers and the average voter were finally seeing marijuana in a new (non-Demonized) light. Some of us made the connection that this may be the moment where the talk/feelings on marijuana turns around, where maybe even, one day, some of us could enjoy a jay on our own property on our front lawn, apparently like a 'hick', right?

I just don't understand how anyone being excited about this new view on medical marijuana/marijuana someone dehumanizes or hurts someone with a chronic disease? You're going to have to explain that one better, because the two things aren't mutually exclusive. No one is talking about the diseases because the main point of this thread, in this Politics section, is the discussion of marijuana legality, not disease discussion.

If you wanted a disease discussion so badly, you should have started it (we all know how well that would have turned out) instead of flipping out on the invisible everybody and backhandedly referring to me as a hick.

[zion the lion]

Are you serious?



You know why no one is talking about the diseases that people have that they treat with medical marijuana?

1.) We're not doctors.
2.) We're not sick.
3.) We don't care.
4.) No one brought it up until you freaked out about it.
5.) It's not that big a deal.
6.) I don't see your whole problem here..

I am

[fake empire]

Jesus Christ.

[caveBEAR]

I am

Ok. I'm sorry?

I'm not allowed to hope that medical marijuana introduces marijuana legalization to the national discussion because you, and maybe even other people, are sick.

My bad, excuse me.

I'll be back, my sister's coming over, and I'm thinkin' hick thoughts...

[zion the lion]

Ok. I'm sorry?

I'm not allowed to hope that medical marijuana introduces marijuana legalization to the national discussion because you, and maybe even other people, are sick.

My bad, excuse me.

I'll be back, my sister's coming over, and I'm thinkin' hick thoughts...

Yeah...you completely focused on the word hick and not whatever else I was trying to say.

[zion the lion]

Jesus Christ.

Arent you the guy who posted n00dz of his ex on 4chan with her phone number? And then made a thread about it looking for sympathy?

[caveBEAR]

Yeah...you completely focused on the word hick and not whatever else I was trying to say.

No, I focused on what you were trying to say in almost every one of my responses. Go ahead and re-read them. Look at how long they are, do you really think they are seven paragraph long diatribes on the word 'hick'?

No, they are responses to your original point, which was (unless I'm mistaken) that you were angry that people connected legalization of medical marijuana with decriminalization of marijuana (which, no matter what you think of it, would encompass smoking in a front yard if you so wanted) because you, apparently, think that if anyone is so selfish as to want to see marijuana decriminalized, they have absolutely no empathy for those who are sick and use marijuana to cope.

Is that about right?

If it is, feel free to read all my previous responses on why that's stupid.

[zion the lion]

No, I focused on what you were trying to say in almost every one of my responses. Go ahead and re-read them. Look at how long they are, do you really think they are seven paragraph long diatribes on the word 'hick'?

No, they are responses to your original point, which was (unless I'm mistaken) that you were angry that people connected legalization of medical marijuana with decriminalization of marijuana (which, no matter what you think of it, would encompass smoking in a front yard if you so wanted) because you, apparently, think that if anyone is so selfish as to want to see marijuana decriminalized, they have absolutely no empathy for those who are sick and use marijuana to cope.

Is that about right?

If it is, feel free to read all my previous responses on why that's stupid.

I've already said that's not what I meant at all, I never meant to imply that smoking weed meant that you couldnt try to help those dieases, I was trying to say that nobody has mentioned them at all, that nowhere in any discussion at all whatsoever of medical marijuana has there been a discussion of the diseases they're supposed to help. There's hardly a discussion of how much it may or may not help them in the first place. All there ever is, is a discussion of the obvious, the future of your ability to smoke it in your front lawn freely.

By the way it does sound a little bit selfish when you say that nobody cares, I know that nobody does care, but you probably shouldnt complain about what I think if you're going to say that nobody cares.

[caveBEAR]

I've already said that's not what I meant at all, I never meant to imply that smoking weed meant that you couldnt try to help those dieases, I was trying to say that nobody has mentioned them at all, that nowhere in any discussion at all whatsoever of medical marijuana has there been a discussion of the diseases they're supposed to help. There's hardly a discussion of how much it may or may not help them in the first place. All there ever is, is a discussion of the obvious, the future of your ability to smoke it in your front lawn freely.

By the way it does sound a little bit selfish when you say that nobody cares, I know that nobody does care, but you probably shouldnt complain about what I think if you're going to say that nobody cares.

I'm going to tell you what I told you in the last thread you tried to pull this shit in;

You can't come into a topic and be pissed people aren't discussing something if you haven't tried to bring it up for discussion.


You didn't come in with articles or a point about people using it medically, you came in with the 'hick' diatribe. So go ahead and spark some discussion about the diseases marijuana is supposed to help, and if it helps them in the first place.

[zion the lion]

I'm going to tell you what I told you in the last thread you tried to pull this shit in;

You can't come into a topic and be pissed people aren't discussing something if you haven't tried to bring it up for discussion.


You didn't come in with articles or a point about people using it medically, you came in with the 'hick' diatribe. So go ahead and spark some discussion about the diseases marijuana is supposed to help, and if it helps them in the first place.

I did that in another thread?

[artyinthebank]

Sweet. Welcome to the club!

[oldwirehands]

Throughout all the marijuana debates I've seen on this site, this Zion chick has only been obsessed with her moral objection to the plant, and continues to try to justify her moral objection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she supposedly supports it for medical reasons only. Here's a list of some illnesses/symptoms that medical marijuana could be used to treat.

# Alzheimer's Disease
# Anorexia
# AIDS
# Arthritis
# Cachexia
# Cancer
# Crohn's Disease
# Epilepsy
# Glaucoma
# HIV
# Migraine
# Multiple Sclerosis
# Nausea
# Pain
# Spasticity
# Wasting Syndrome
# Depression

That could apply to anyone. Specifically nausea, pain, and depression. Marijuana could easily become an over-the-counter drug. No matter what, there are going to be people who use it for recreational purposes. To hate someone for that, would be the same for hating a person for drinking milk.

People like this are ignorant and prejudice. They assume everyone is smoking weed to get fucked up. I hope one day, that these people will understand smoking pot is not a big deal, and that its not right to judge a person to for using a substance for relaxation or medication.

[saysmydoctor]

Why did I just read this....

[zion the lion]

Throughout all the marijuana debates I've seen on this site, this Zion chick has only been obsessed with her moral objection to the plant, and continues to try to justify her moral objection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she supposedly supports it for medical reasons only. Here's a list of some illnesses/symptoms that medical marijuana could be used to treat.

# Alzheimer's Disease
# Anorexia
# AIDS
# Arthritis
# Cachexia
# Cancer
# Crohn's Disease
# Epilepsy
# Glaucoma
# HIV
# Migraine
# Multiple Sclerosis
# Nausea
# Pain
# Spasticity
# Wasting Syndrome
# Depression

That could apply to anyone. Specifically nausea, pain, and depression. Marijuana could easily become an over-the-counter drug. No matter what, there are going to be people who use it for recreational purposes. To hate someone for that, would be the same for hating a person for drinking milk.

People like this are ignorant and prejudice. They assume everyone is smoking weed to get fucked up. I hope one day, that these people will understand smoking pot is not a big deal, and that its not right to judge a person to for using a substance for relaxation or medication.

I dont actually have a problem with marijuana, I never said I "hated" pot smokers, that was all your assumption, but really, dont compare it to milk, that's just fucking ridiculous.

[timb89]

i smoke weed. i think it def has a short to long term effect.

for example the phrase "fuck it" means so much more.

[fake empire]

Arent you the guy who posted n00dz of his ex on 4chan with her phone number? And then made a thread about it looking for sympathy?
No. lol.

[caveBEAR]

I did that in another thread?

Did what in another thread? Bring up the 'hick diatribe'? No, because that was in here.

Are you trying to say you brought up the diseases in another thread? You can't be fucking serious. I was discussing B-Sides in another thread, why is no one talking about them in here?!

I bet you hicks want to listen to B-Sides on your front lawn.

[oldwirehands]

I dont actually have a problem with marijuana, I never said I "hated" pot smokers, that was all your assumption, but really, dont compare it to milk, that's just fucking ridiculous.

No, you haven't, but you show an obvious prejudice towards people who smokes. You look down upon them, as if you were a better person for not smoking pot. Actually, in most of your posts, you just look down on people with all of your opinions.

Milk is a beverage someone enjoys, and its essentially harmless. Same with marijuana. The only difference is that one of them alters your perception for a couple hours, and makes you want to smile a lot. Some people like it, some people don't, and there is absolutely no reason to look down on those who do like it, unless they are doing something more than just smoking pot. End of story.

[zion the lion]

Did what in another thread? Bring up the 'hick diatribe'? No, because that was in here.

Are you trying to say you brought up the diseases in another thread? You can't be fucking serious. I was discussing B-Sides in another thread, why is no one talking about them in here?!

I bet you hicks want to listen to B-Sides on your front lawn.

This is the kind of thing I mean by "major communication break down" between us...what you quoted was an actual question to the bolded and underlined on your previous post, not anything sarcastic or rude or anything...just a serious question because I dont remember doing anything like it.

No, you haven't, but you show an obvious prejudice towards people who smokes. You look down upon them, as if you were a better person for not smoking pot. Actually, in most of your posts, you just look down on people with all of your opinions.

Milk is a beverage someone enjoys, and its essentially harmless. Same with marijuana. The only difference is that one of them alters your perception for a couple hours, and makes you want to smile a lot. Some people like it, some people don't, and there is absolutely no reason to look down on those who do like it, unless they are doing something more than just smoking pot. End of story.

Milk is practically the only thing the 2 year old I watch drinks, milk is actually healthy for you, milk has vitamins and is actually worth something nutritionally. I wouldnt consider replacing marijuana with milk for her for any reason.

And no, I dont, thats something you've assumed along the way. If I had an obvious prejudice or looked down upon those people as if I were a better person I'd have hardly anybody in my life, I dont give a shit about how people spend their time. You, on the other hand, seem to have an easy time judging someone who doesnt personally like pot.

No. lol.

And to think that I secretly hated you for no reason. I wonder who that was then...

[oldwirehands]

This is the kind of thing I mean by "major communication break down" between us...what you quoted was an actual question to the bolded and underlined on your previous post, not anything sarcastic or rude or anything...just a serious question because I dont remember doing anything like it.



Milk is practically the only thing the 2 year old I watch drinks, milk is actually healthy for you, milk has vitamins and is actually worth something nutritionally. I wouldnt consider replacing marijuana with milk for her for any reason.

And no, I dont, thats something you've assumed along the way. If I had an obvious prejudice or looked down upon those people as if I were a better person I'd have hardly anybody in my life, I dont give a shit about how people spend their time. You, on the other hand, seem to have an easy time judging someone who doesnt personally like pot.



And to think that I secretly hated you for no reason. I wonder who that was then...

Don't even care to read. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[caveBEAR]

This is the kind of thing I mean by "major communication break down" between us...what you quoted was an actual question to the bolded and underlined on your previous post, not anything sarcastic or rude or anything...just a serious question because I dont remember doing anything like it.

Yes, in the religion thread you were pissed that no one was talking about religions other than Christianity, but you launched into a pissed diatribe before trying to bring anything up yourself.

Milk is practically the only thing the 2 year old I watch drinks, milk is actually healthy for you, milk has vitamins and is actually worth something nutritionally. I wouldnt consider replacing marijuana with milk for her for any reason.

Weed may prevent diseases, which is at least in the same direction as healthy.

[zion the lion]

Yes, in the religion thread you were pissed that no one was talking about religions other than Christianity, but you launched into a pissed diatribe before trying to bring anything up yourself.



Weed may prevent diseases, which is at least in the same direction as healthy.

No actually I tried at least 5 times in the original god thread and at least twice in that thread, Geebee attacking everyone got old.

[fake empire]

This is the kind of thing I mean by "major communication break down" between us...what you quoted was an actual question to the bolded and underlined on your previous post, not anything sarcastic or rude or anything...just a serious question because I dont remember doing anything like it.



Milk is practically the only thing the 2 year old I watch drinks, milk is actually healthy for you, milk has vitamins and is actually worth something nutritionally. I wouldnt consider replacing marijuana with milk for her for any reason.

And no, I dont, thats something you've assumed along the way. If I had an obvious prejudice or looked down upon those people as if I were a better person I'd have hardly anybody in my life, I dont give a shit about how people spend their time. You, on the other hand, seem to have an easy time judging someone who doesnt personally like pot.



And to think that I secretly hated you for no reason. I wonder who that was then...
Weird. Shall we kiss and make up then?

[zion the lion]

Weird. Shall we kiss and make up then?

Of course, the kiss kiss part is always the best part of secretly hating someone for no reason and then ending the hatred.

[fake empire]

Of course, the kiss kiss part is always the best part of secretly hating someone for no reason and then ending the hatred.
Let's trade pix

[zion the lion]

Let's trade pix

I see where this is going...

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I've never tried weed or gotten high for the sole reason that it's illegal and I was cautious of any negative consequences. Friends have offered it but turned it down for the reason I'd be driving home afterwards. If weed was legalized and regulated, I'd buy it in an instant just to try it out.