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PaperRival-Jake
01/17/10, 09:01 PM
How do you feel about it now that it's over?

Machu505
01/17/10, 09:04 PM
The Hurt Locker didn't win anything, so no care.

gilatron5000
01/17/10, 09:05 PM
http://8.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwfexcTTDA1qzkmw2o1_500.jpg

poppa Q
01/17/10, 09:06 PM
Hopefully the Academy takes its ceremony a bit more seriously.

narcoleptic953
01/17/10, 09:06 PM
If I were Quentin Tarantino, I'd carve a fucking swastika into James Cameron's forehead. Jesus fucking Christ...

narcoleptic953
01/17/10, 09:07 PM
http://8.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwfexcTTDA1qzkmw2o1_500.jpg

And this is classic.

gilatron5000
01/17/10, 09:09 PM
If I were Quentin Tarantino, I'd carve a fucking swastika into James Cameron's forehead. Jesus fucking Christ...LOL

And this is classic.haha, thanks. I felt inspired.

whoaisame
01/17/10, 09:10 PM
I wish Carey Mulligan, Inglorious Basterds, and Michael Emerson won.

I really liked Avatar, but for best picture...no.

Happy for Christoph Waltz, he deserves it.

cshadows2887
01/17/10, 09:10 PM
Jeff Bridges thanked his stand in. For that reason alone, I am now rooting for him to win the oscar.

And Basterds is good. But it's not that good.

narcoleptic953
01/17/10, 09:13 PM
Basterds is definitely that good. Avatar definitely isn't that good. Hell, Avatar isn't even good.

sdbrown
01/17/10, 09:16 PM
I was at the gym and accidentally started clapping when John Lithgow won. I love Emerson and he's fantastic but there was no way he was more deserving of that award. I didn't see much after 7:30 but it didn't really matter since I haven't seen many movies this year.

cshadows2887
01/17/10, 09:16 PM
Let me guess. You're now going to pretend you like Kevin Costner so you can attack Avatar.

It used to be so much lonelier on the Costner bandwagon.

deadkidsean
01/17/10, 09:18 PM
If I were Quentin Tarantino, I'd carve a fucking swastika into James Cameron's forehead. Jesus fucking Christ...
Right. Definitely Cameron's fault, you dolt.

narcoleptic953
01/17/10, 09:19 PM
Right. Definitely Cameron's fault, you dolt.

I definitely was not being 100% sarcastic.

narcoleptic953
01/17/10, 09:24 PM
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gilatron5000
01/17/10, 09:25 PM
Let me guess. You're now going to pretend you like Kevin Costner so you can attack Avatar.

It used to be so much lonelier on the Costner bandwagon.for the record, I liked Avatar, Inglourious Basterds, and The Hurt Locker. But of all of them, I think The Hurt Locker should have won.

narcoleptic953
01/17/10, 09:27 PM
for the record, I liked Avatar, Inglourious Basterds, and The Hurt Locker. But of all of them, I think The Hurt Locker should have won.

Agreed.

domotime2
01/17/10, 09:31 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the HANGOVER won an award...lol oh my god...hahaa i cant believe it... I kind of remember why I don't watch the Golden Globes...oh mercy.

cshadows2887
01/17/10, 09:42 PM
for the record, I liked Avatar, Inglourious Basterds, and The Hurt Locker. But of all of them, I think The Hurt Locker should have won.

Honestly, right now, Hurt Locker, Avatar or Up in the Air could win and I'd be fine with it. All deserving movies. There are a few conters I'm yet to see (A Serious Man, Precious, Invictus) but those three are the cream of the crop for me.

*crying stars*
01/17/10, 09:53 PM
I am still quite baffled by some of the winners. Cross your fingers for the Oscars being better at doling out awards.

A7XXX
01/17/10, 10:13 PM
I thought Up In the Air should win more awards than just the screenplay one. And I haven't seen Avatar yet but after all this hype not sure I'm interested in checking it out anymore

Max_123
01/17/10, 10:16 PM
ah i missed it, can anyone give me a re-cap of who won stuff?

cshadows2887
01/17/10, 10:43 PM
I thought Up In the Air should win more awards than just the screenplay one. And I haven't seen Avatar yet but after all this hype not sure I'm interested in checking it out anymore

So beacause a lot of people like it, you don't have any interest in seeing it? What kind of ass-backward logic is that?

friskycurtain
01/17/10, 11:12 PM
Glad Michael C. Hall won for Dexter. Well deserved.

jtjt43
01/18/10, 04:53 AM
FILM CATEGORIES
Best film (drama)
Avatar
Also nominated:
The Hurt Locker
Precious
Up In The Air
Inglourious Basterds

Best film (musical or comedy)
The Hangover
Also nominated:
(500) Days of Summer
It's Complicated
Julie & Julia
Nine

Best director
James Cameron (Avatar)
Also nominated:
Kathryn Bigelow (The Hurt Locker)
Clint Eastwood (Invictus)
Jason Reitman (Up In The Air)
Quentin Tarantino (Inglorious Basterds)

Best actor (drama)
Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)
Also nominated:
George Clooney (Up In The Air)
Colin Firth (A Single Man)
Morgan Freeman (Invictus)
Tobey Maguire (Brothers)

Best actress (drama)
Sandra Bullock (The Blind Side)
Also nominated:
Emily Blunt (The Young Victoria)
Helen Mirren (The Last Station)
Carey Mulligan (An Education)
Gabourey Sidibe (Precious)

Best actor (musical or comedy)
Robert Downey Jr (Sherlock Holmes)
Also nominated:
Matt Damon (The Informant!)
Daniel Day-Lewis (Nine)
Joseph Gordon-Levitt (500 Days of Summer)
Michael Stuhlbarg (A Serious Man)

Best actress (musical or comedy)
Meryl Streep (Julie & Julia)
Also nominated:
Sandra Bullock (The Proposal)
Marion Cotillard (Nine)
Julia Roberts (Duplicity)
Meryl Streep (It's Complicated)

Best supporting actor
Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)
Also nominated:
Matt Damon (Invictus)
Woody Harrelson (The Messenger)
Stanley Tucci (The Lovely Bones)
Christopher Plummer (The Last Station)

Best supporting actress
Mo'Nique (Precious)
Also nominated:
Penelope Cruz (Nine)
Vera Farmiga (Up in the Air)
Anna Kendrick (Up in the Air)
Julianne Moore (A Single Man)

Best foreign language film
The White Ribbon (Germany)
Also nominated:
Baaria (Italy)
Broken Embraces (Spain)
The Maid (Chile)
A Prophet (France)

Best animated feature film
Up
Also nominated:
Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs
Coraline
Fantastic Mr Fox
The Princess and the Frog

Best screenplay
Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner (Up In The Air)
Also nominated:
Neill Blomkamp, Terri Tatchell (District 9)
Mark Boal (The Hurt Locker)
Nancy Meyers (It's Complicated)
Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

Best original song
The Weary Kind (Crazy Heart)
Also nominated:
Cinema Italiano (Nine)
I Want To Come Home (Everybody's Fine)
I Will See You (Avatar)
Winter (Brothers)

Best original score
Michael Giacchino (Up)
Also nominated:
Marvin Hamlisch (The Informant!)
James Horner (Avatar)
Abel Korzeniowski (A Single Man)
Karen O, Carter Burwell (Where The Wild Things Are)

TELEVISION CATEGORIES
Best series (drama)
Mad Men
Also nominated:
Big Love
Dexter
House
True Blood

Best series (musical or comedy)
Glee
Also nominated:
30 Rock
Entourage
Modern Family
The Office

Best mini-series or film made for TV
Grey Gardens
Also nominated:
Georgia O'Keeffe
Into The Storm
Little Dorrit
Taking Chance
Best actor (drama)
Michael C Hall (Dexter)
Also nominated:
Simon Baker (The Mentalist)
Jon Hamm (Mad Men)
Hugh Laurie (House)
Bill Paxton (Big Love)
Best actor (musical or comedy)
Alec Baldwin (30 Rock)
Also nominated:
Steve Carell (The Office)
David Duchovny (Californication)
Thomas Jane (Hung)
Matthew Morrison (Glee)

Best actor (mini-series or film made for TV)
Kevin Bacon (Taking Chance)
Also nominated:
Kenneth Branagh (Wallender)
Chiwetel Ejiofor, (Endgame)
Brendan Gleeson (Into the Storm)
Jeremy Irons (Georgia O'Keeffe)

Best supporting actor (series, mini-series or film made for TV)
John Lithgow (Dexter)
Also nominated:
Michael Emerson (Lost)
Neil Patrick Harris (How I Met Your Mother)
William Hurt (Damages)
Jeremy Piven (Entourage)

Best actress (drama)
Julianna Margulies (The Good Wife)
Also nominated:
Glenn Close (Damages)
January Jones (Mad Men)
Anna Paquin (True Blood)
Kyra Sedgwick (The Closer)

Best actress (musical or comedy)
Toni Collette (United States of Tara)
Also nominated:
Courteney Cox (Cougar Town)
Edie Falco (Nurse Jackie)
Tina Fey (30 Rock)
Lea Michele (Glee)

Best actress (mini-series or film made for TV)
Drew Barrymore (Grey Gardens)
Also nominated:
Joan Allen (Georgia O'Keeffe)
Jessica Lange (Grey Gardens)
Anna Paquin (The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler)
Sigourney Weaver (Prayers for Bobby)

Best supporting actress (series, mini-series or film made for TV)
Chloe Sevigny (Big Love)
Also nominated:
Jane Adams (Hung)
Rose Byrne (Damages)
Jane Lynch (Glee)
Janet McTeer (Into The Storm)

jtjt43
01/18/10, 04:53 AM
ah i missed it, can anyone give me a re-cap of who won stuff?

See above

drudo182
01/18/10, 04:56 AM
LOL. Avatar seriously won?

Awwww. The end of days is near.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 07:10 AM
Honestly, right now, Hurt Locker, Avatar or Up in the Air could win and I'd be fine with it. All deserving movies. There are a few conters I'm yet to see (A Serious Man, Precious, Invictus) but those three are the cream of the crop for me.

Wait, you honestly think Avatar is a better movie than Inglourious Basterds? Why?

batmannj
01/18/10, 07:22 AM
Wait, you honestly think Avatar is a better movie than Inglourious Basterds? Why?

This is just my opinion, but I didn't like Inglorious Basterds because it felt to me like just another Quentin Tarantino flick. The (sometimes) long stretches of dialogue that weren't very funny, the pointless Michael Myers cameo. Christopher Waltz did a great jobs, especially in that opening scene, but I was sorely disappointed in the film.

I certainly enjoyed Avatar more because imo it was the more enjoyable movie to watch. The visuals were stunning (especially in 3-D), and in a lot of ways James Cameron created another world I enjoyed getting lost in for a little over 2 and a half hours.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 07:53 AM
This is just my opinion, but I didn't like Inglorious Basterds because it felt to me like just another Quentin Tarantino flick. The (sometimes) long stretches of dialogue that weren't very funny, the pointless Michael Myers cameo. Christopher Waltz did a great jobs, especially in that opening scene, but I was sorely disappointed in the film.

I certainly enjoyed Avatar more because imo it was the more enjoyable movie to watch. The visuals were stunning (especially in 3-D), and in a lot of ways James Cameron created another world I enjoyed getting lost in for a little over 2 and a half hours.

You see, I loved Inglourious Basterds because it was Quentin Tarantino at his finest (with the exception of Pulp Fiction). The long stretches of dialogue were, imo, brilliantly written and perfectly executed by the actors, and the two extended set pieces (the opening scene and the basement scene) were some of my favorites of the year because they built tension to a breaking point and were performed so damn well. I don't think it's even a contest for best ensemble cast because not only are the leads great, but the small supporting roles, like Denis Menochet at the beginning or Michael Fassbender in that basement scene, are more well acted than most parts in lesser films (certainly more well acted than any of the forgettable characters in Avatar). I cared more about the fate of each of the Basterds than I did about the leads in Avatar.

I didn't think the dialogue was exactly aiming to be funny and witty all the time here either. In Pulp Fiction, there was definitely a different feel. The laughs here came largely from Brad Pitt and some of Christoph Waltz' funnier moments. The Mike Myers cameo didn't bother me at all and I think that's a ridiculous reason to dislike the film. He's on screen for 5 minutes and I didn't even notice it was him the first time because I was so engrossed in the experience. Every scene in that film was absolutely important to the build up of the plot, and I wouldn't edit a thing. I never understood the complaints I heard of it dragging because honestly, I didn't think there was a film all year, with the possible exception of The Hurt Locker, that dragged less. And the ending, in turns explosive, horrific, and hilarious, just had my jaw on the floor. The second it was over, I wanted to see it again and it was the most fun I've had in theater's since The Lord of the Rings. In my opinion, an absolute masterpiece.

Now I didn't dislike Avatar; indeed, I found it to be an entertaining and engrossing experience, and the visuals were great, but for something that was touted as the "movie going experience of the decade" and "the next Star Wars", I was completely let down. The vast majority of the characters were completely cardboard. Cameron has always used stock characters and not much else, but here it bothered me more than ever before, because despite the vast, epic things going on onscreen, I just didn't care because I couldn't get involved with the boring characters. Add in just average performances from most of the cast and a storyline that just dragged incessantly, not to mention a few laugh out loud cheesy moments, and what was left for me was just an above average summer blockbuster with great visuals (that just so happened to be released during Oscar season). Walking out of the theater, I had enjoyed the experience, but the forgettable characters faded from my memory quickly and the storyline didn't have any effect on my whatsoever. For a film that was supposed to be the most fun I'd have in the theater all year, it was actually near the bottom of that list for me and I see no reason for me to ever see it again (vs Basterds which I've seen three times and loved it equally each time). I understand why a lot of people like the film, but it's not the best picture of the year...not even close.

drawndead
01/18/10, 08:02 AM
Michael C. Hall...thank you :)

batmannj
01/18/10, 08:10 AM
You see, I loved Inglourious Basterds because it was Quentin Tarantino at his finest (with the exception of Pulp Fiction). The long stretches of dialogue were, imo, brilliantly written and perfectly executed by the actors, and the two extended set pieces (the opening scene and the basement scene) were some of my favorites of the year because they built tension to a breaking point and were performed so damn well. I don't think it's even a contest for best ensemble cast because not only are the leads great, but the small supporting roles, like Denis Menochet at the beginning or Michael Fassbender in that basement scene, are more well acted than most parts in lesser films (certainly more well acted than any of the forgettable characters in Avatar). I cared more about the fate of each of the Basterds than I did about the leads in Avatar.

I didn't think the dialogue was exactly aiming to be funny and witty all the time here either. In Pulp Fiction, there was definitely a different feel. The laughs here came largely from Brad Pitt and some of Christoph Waltz' funnier moments. The Mike Myers cameo didn't bother me at all and I think that's a ridiculous reason to dislike the film. He's on screen for 5 minutes and I didn't even notice it was him the first time because I was so engrossed in the experience. Every scene in that film was absolutely important to the build up of the plot, and I wouldn't edit a thing. I never understood the complaints I heard of it dragging because honestly, I didn't think there was a film all year, with the possible exception of The Hurt Locker, that dragged less. And the ending, in turns explosive, horrific, and hilarious, just had my jaw on the floor. The second it was over, I wanted to see it again and it was the most fun I've had in theater's since The Lord of the Rings. In my opinion, an absolute masterpiece.

Now I didn't dislike Avatar; indeed, I found it to be an entertaining and engrossing experience, and the visuals were great, but for something that was touted as the "movie going experience of the decade" and "the next Star Wars", I was completely let down. The vast majority of the characters were completely cardboard. Cameron has always used stock characters and not much else, but here it bothered me more than ever before, because despite the vast, epic things going on onscreen, I just didn't care because I couldn't get involved with the boring characters. Add in just average performances from most of the cast and a storyline that just dragged incessantly, not to mention a few laugh out loud cheesy moments, and what was left for me was just an above average summer blockbuster with great visuals (that just so happened to be released during Oscar season). Walking out of the theater, I had enjoyed the experience, but the forgettable characters faded from my memory quickly and the storyline didn't have any effect on my whatsoever. For a film that was supposed to be the most fun I'd have in the theater all year, it was actually near the bottom of that list for me and I see no reason for me to ever see it again (vs Basterds which I've seen three times and loved it equally each time). I understand why a lot of people like the film, but it's not the best picture of the year...not even close.

I understand where you are coming from on Basterds, just for me, I couldn't get into the movie at all. I think part of it was that it was billed almost as a star vehicle for Brad Pitt and the Basterds killing Navis. Instead it spent far too much time plodding along. I understand that the revenge aspect of the film needed to be built up, and I think in some ways it was well done, but for the most part it just felt like Tarantino just doing another Tarantino flick that built up to one insanely violent scene. I think part of it is that I am biased too, I've never really enjoyed much of his work to begin with.

Plus I didn't dislike the entire movie for the Mike Meyers cameo haha, it was just more that I felt like it was a good example of why I didn't like it. The scene just didn't need to be there.

As for Avatar, a lot of the characters were stock Cameron as well, and I definitely don't think it's a film of the year. For me, it was just a great piece of escapist fun. I know Avatar is getting a ton of Best Picture buzz, but Up In The Air, The Hurt Locker, Invictus, District 9, and hell even The Hangover were all better films in my opinion.

eraserhead
01/18/10, 08:12 AM
The Oscars will be better

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 08:13 AM
I understand where you are coming from on Basterds, just for me, I couldn't get into the movie at all. I think part of it was that it was billed almost as a star vehicle for Brad Pitt and the Basterds killing Navis. Instead it spent far too much time plodding along. I understand that the revenge aspect of the film needed to be built up, and I think in some ways it was well done, but for the most part it just felt like Tarantino just doing another Tarantino flick that built up to one insanely violent scene. I think part of it is that I am biased too, I've never really enjoyed much of his work to begin with.

Plus I didn't dislike the entire movie for the Mike Meyers cameo haha, it was just more that I felt like it was a good example of why I didn't like it. The scene just didn't need to be there.

As for Avatar, a lot of the characters were stock Cameron as well, and I definitely don't think it's a film of the year. For me, it was just a great piece of escapist fun. I know Avatar is getting a ton of Best Picture buzz, but Up In The Air, The Hurt Locker, Invictus, District 9, and hell even The Hangover were all better films in my opinion.

I think all of those except Invictus is better than Avatar. I thought Invictus was mediocre to the nth degree though...

And I'm sure it was a typo but the "Brad Pitt and the Basterds killing Navis" made me chuckle.

jbaseball44
01/18/10, 09:01 AM
Here's to hoping the Oscars are a hell of a lot better than the globes. I disagreed with almost every film award they gave out (minus Christoph Waltz)

desiguerilla
01/18/10, 09:06 AM
the fact that the hurt locker didnt win anything is pretty upsetting. it was such a fuckin amazin movie.

deadkidsean
01/18/10, 09:06 AM
This is just my opinion, but I didn't like Inglorious Basterds because it felt to me like just another Quentin Tarantino flick. The (sometimes) long stretches of dialogue that weren't very funny, the pointless Michael Myers cameo. Christopher Waltz did a great jobs, especially in that opening scene, but I was sorely disappointed in the film.

I certainly enjoyed Avatar more because imo it was the more enjoyable movie to watch. The visuals were stunning (especially in 3-D), and in a lot of ways James Cameron created another world I enjoyed getting lost in for a little over 2 and a half hours.

If you don't enjoy dialogue, what the fuck are you doing watching a QT movie? You invalidated your opinion in the second sentence.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 09:10 AM
the fact that the hurt locker didnt win anything is pretty upsetting. it was such a fuckin amazin movie.

Apparently the Hollywood Foreign Press really disliked The Hurt Locker. When they didn't even nominate Renner, I knew it wasn't winning.

fake empire
01/18/10, 09:14 AM
I understand where you are coming from on Basterds, just for me, I couldn't get into the movie at all. I think part of it was that it was billed almost as a star vehicle for Brad Pitt and the Basterds killing Navis. Instead it spent far too much time plodding along. I understand that the revenge aspect of the film needed to be built up, and I think in some ways it was well done, but for the most part it just felt like Tarantino just doing another Tarantino flick that built up to one insanely violent scene. I think part of it is that I am biased too, I've never really enjoyed much of his work to begin with.

Plus I didn't dislike the entire movie for the Mike Meyers cameo haha, it was just more that I felt like it was a good example of why I didn't like it. The scene just didn't need to be there.

As for Avatar, a lot of the characters were stock Cameron as well, and I definitely don't think it's a film of the year. For me, it was just a great piece of escapist fun. I know Avatar is getting a ton of Best Picture buzz, but Up In The Air, The Hurt Locker, Invictus, District 9, and hell even The Hangover were all better films in my opinion.
The Mike Meyers scene needed to be there. Every scene needed to be there. Sounds like you just don't like Mike Meyers.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 09:22 AM
The Mike Meyers scene needed to be there. Every scene needed to be there. Sounds like you just don't like Mike Meyers.

Indeed.

Illuminate
01/18/10, 09:46 AM
Michael C. Hall...thank you :)

THIS.

shimmyshakes
01/18/10, 11:18 AM
I watched but I can't really say anything about the winners/losers. Out of all the nominations, I've only seen The Blind Side, Where the Wild Things Are, and The Hangover.. And I thought Where the Wild Things Are was the best out of those 3, but it didn't win anything.
I only watch The Office and House and I guess neither won as well. Whatever.

superBMRuth
01/18/10, 12:14 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the HANGOVER won an award...lol oh my god...hahaa i cant believe it... I kind of remember why I don't watch the Golden Globes...oh mercy.
for best comedy.... you're either one of the 5 people who didn't find it funny or you're a 50 year old woman who would've rather seen It's Complicated win that award.

bard
01/18/10, 12:22 PM
the hangover wasn't that good, brah

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 12:43 PM
Oh come on, The Hangover was fucking hilarious.

drawndead
01/18/10, 12:47 PM
THIS.

he should have won atleast 4 for dexter and countless ones for six feet under. it was way overdue

A7XXX
01/18/10, 01:20 PM
So because a lot of people like it, you don't have any interest in seeing it? What kind of ass-backward logic is that?
Yeah it does sound weird but I like to discover my own things. AVATAR's band wagon has gotten too many people jumping on it already so I'll just wait for the DVD to check out later.

deadkidsean
01/18/10, 01:47 PM
Yeah it does sound weird but I like to discover my own things. AVATAR's band wagon has gotten too many people jumping on it already so I'll just wait for the DVD to check out later.
You're so indie.

cshadows2887
01/18/10, 01:57 PM
Wait, you honestly think Avatar is a better movie than Inglourious Basterds? Why?

For starters, Basterds doesn't deliver on it's premise. It's the story of a Jewish unit killin' Nazis. We see that for maybe 20 minutes out of a two hour movie. Huge letdown. There are basically three short films that, except for the very end are only tangentially related. Which is fine if that's part of the point you're making. But the only point there is Tarantino loves to hear people speak words he wrote. Each scene, while it has its merits, runs too long. As for Myers, it's funny, but that's another part of the movie that keeps it a notch below Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. Humor in Tarantino movies usually comes naturally as a result of his style. In this one, you could see him trying to be funny.

All of this makes it sound like I didn't like the movie. I did like it quite a bit. But it's just not a best picture-caliber film. Which there's nothing wrong with. And I fully support Waltz as the best supporting actor this year (though I'm thin on having seen the other major candidates).

Avatar on the other hand, while it obviously has it's flaws is the kind of immersive, exciting experience movies were invented to provide. It's not very often you go to a theater and are in awe. And that experience is worth rewarding. Plus the use of 3D as a tool to insert the audience even more into your movie as opposed to a cheap gimmick where people point and throw things at the audience is pretty revolutionary. Not to mention that the story is engrossing. So what if we've seen it before? Plots have had archetypes since before the Greeks were wrting down their plays. If we penalized every movie featuring The Everyman or Star-Crossed-Lovers, the way Avatr is getting ripped, we wouldn't enjoy very many movies. It's what you do with that simple story that counts, and Avatar hits it out of the park. I swear, if they weren't blue people...

Yeah it does sound weird but I like to discover my own things. AVATAR's band wagon has gotten too many people jumping on it already so I'll just wait for the DVD to check out later.

I'd usually say that's perfectly fine, but the 3d is kind of important to the experience, so seeing it on a big screen is actually worth it

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 02:10 PM
For starters, Basterds doesn't deliver on it's premise. It's the story of a Jewish unit killin' Nazis. We see that for maybe 20 minutes out of a two hour movie. Huge letdown. There are basically three short films that, except for the very end are only tangentially related. Which is fine if that's part of the point you're making. But the only point there is Tarantino loves to hear people speak words he wrote. Each scene, while it has its merits, runs too long. As for Myers, it's funny, but that's another part of the movie that keeps it a notch below Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. Humor in Tarantino movies usually comes naturally as a result of his style. In this one, you could see him trying to be funny.

All of this makes it sound like I didn't like the movie. I did like it quite a bit. But it's just not a best picture-caliber film. Which there's nothing wrong with. And I fully support Waltz as the best supporting actor this year (though I'm thin on having seen the other major candidates).

Avatar on the other hand, while it obviously has it's flaws is the kind of immersive, exciting experience movies were invented to provide. It's not very often you go to a theater and are in awe. And that experience is worth rewarding. Plus the use of 3D as a tool to insert the audience even more into your movie as opposed to a cheap gimmick where people point and throw things at the audience is pretty revolutionary. Not to mention that the story is engrossing. So what if we've seen it before? Plots have had archetypes since before the Greeks were wrting down their plays. If we penalized every movie featuring The Everyman or Star-Crossed-Lovers, the way Avatr is getting ripped, we wouldn't enjoy very many movies. It's what you do with that simple story that counts, and Avatar hits it out of the park. I swear, if they weren't blue people...



I'd usually say that's perfectly fine, but the 3d is kind of important to the experience, so seeing it on a big screen is actually worth it

You see, I just disagree with 95% of what you just said. I didn't expect a whole movie of killing Nazis and think 2 hours of that would have been boring. I'll take Tarantino dialogue over nonstop action any day (one of the reasons I thought Kill Bill vol 1 was notably inferior to volume 2). I didn't think a single scene ran too long and I didn't really think he was "trying to be funny" any more than he ever has. To me, it was just classic Tarantino. Pretty much just as best picture caliber as Pulp Fiction (which absolutely should have won, so I think this one should too even though I know it won't).

I agree that it's not often you go to the theater and leave in awe, but I wouldn't consider Avatar even remotely close to that level. No arguments on the 3D; it's definitely revolutionary and beautiful, but the story is FAR FAR from engrossing (I've already mentioned that I just didn't give a shit about the characters or what was going on). I wouldn't dream of penalizing every movie featuring the archetypes and stock characters that Avatar is comprised of, but what makes those types of movies work for me are good characters and dialogue, and Avatar just doesn't have those. So yeah, it's what you do with the simple story, but I didn't think Avatar did anything with it other than make it look prettier than it ever has before.

A7XXX
01/18/10, 02:30 PM
You're so indie.
Lol. Well I must say everyone else on this board must be too because the stuff we're listening too is not that popular or mainstream

batmannj
01/18/10, 02:53 PM
I think all of those except Invictus is better than Avatar. I thought Invictus was mediocre to the nth degree though...

And I'm sure it was a typo but the "Brad Pitt and the Basterds killing Navis" made me chuckle.
haha yeah it was. I was rattling along too quick.
If you don't enjoy dialogue, what the fuck are you doing watching a QT movie? You invalidated your opinion in the second sentence.
I enjoy dialogue just fine, it's more that I just don't like the way that QT did it in this movie.
The Mike Meyers scene needed to be there. Every scene needed to be there. Sounds like you just don't like Mike Meyers.

The Mike Meyers scene didn't "need" to be in the movie. I don't really like him, and just about everything he has done recently has been, for the most part, awful. I think the reason I didn't like that movie is because I'm not that big a QT fan, but I gave the movie a shot because it was well reviewed.

bard
01/18/10, 02:56 PM
Oh come on, The Hangover was fucking hilarious.
:shrug:

it made me laugh a few times throughout, but it wasn't really even the movie itself, just zack galifianakis. the only parts i laughed at were his jokes.

don't plan on seeing it again.

domotime2
01/18/10, 02:57 PM
for best comedy.... you're either one of the 5 people who didn't find it funny or you're a 50 year old woman who would've rather seen It's Complicated win that award.
the hangover wasn't funny...i even watched it again just to make sure i'm not crazy. It's scene after scene of missed joke opportunities. There were a hand full of characters that just didn't do it for me...and if I had to pick from the selection of nominees, I would've had no problem seeing 500 Days of Summer winning it.

RonStoppable
01/18/10, 03:54 PM
The Hangover was hilarious, but the fact that it beat out (500) Days of Summer is the biggest joke associated with either movie.

Illuminate
01/18/10, 05:09 PM
The Hangover was hilarious, but the fact that it beat out (500) Days of Summer is the biggest joke associated with either movie.

Agreed, didn't like how (500) won nothing.

fake empire
01/18/10, 05:53 PM
haha yeah it was. I was rattling along too quick.

I enjoy dialogue just fine, it's more that I just don't like the way that QT did it in this movie.


The Mike Meyers scene didn't "need" to be in the movie. I don't really like him, and just about everything he has done recently has been, for the most part, awful. I think the reason I didn't like that movie is because I'm not that big a QT fan, but I gave the movie a shot because it was well reviewed.
It was an essential scene, it explained their plan to kill the Nazis.

fake empire
01/18/10, 05:54 PM
I'd nominate Galfianakis for best supporting actor before I would nominate the Hangover for best comedy.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 06:08 PM
The Hangover was definitely funnier than 500 Days, if we're using funny as the only qualifier.

Thomas Balkcom
01/18/10, 06:15 PM
I couldn't stand 500 Days of Summer so I cannot contribute anything to this discussion.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 06:30 PM
I didn't mind 500 Days, but I really didn't think of it as a comedy. It was actually kind of depressing. The Hangover I've watched three times and it's still hilarious, so that's worth something to me. But once again, A Serious Man should have won (and been fucking nominated).

ActorInThisPlay
01/18/10, 06:45 PM
Inglourious Basterds and The Hangover were probably in my top 3 favorite movies I have seen this year so there you go. I would watch each of them numerous times without hesitating.

Oh_Snap!:O
01/18/10, 06:50 PM
The Hangover was hilarious, but the fact that it beat out (500) Days of Summer is the biggest joke associated with either movie.

yup I agree with this,can't believe 500 days of summer didn't won.

batmannj
01/18/10, 07:04 PM
It was an essential scene, it explained their plan to kill the Nazis.

Which anyone who was watching the movie with a brain could have deduced.

narcoleptic953
01/18/10, 07:07 PM
Which anyone who was watching the movie with a brain could have deduced.

It was necessary to introduce the Michael Fassbender character. Mike Myers didn't need to be there, but the scene did.

jbaseball44
01/18/10, 07:10 PM
It was necessary to introduce the Michael Fassbender character. Mike Myers didn't need to be there, but the scene did.
Exactly and to introduce Bridget Von Hammersmark (though she wasn't in the scene, it introduces who she is and the fact that she is undercover).

fake empire
01/18/10, 07:18 PM
It was necessary to introduce the Michael Fassbender character. Mike Myers didn't need to be there, but the scene did.

Exactly and to introduce Bridget Von Hammersmark (though she wasn't in the scene, it introduces who she is and the fact that she is undercover).
yea doods

batmannj
01/18/10, 07:23 PM
It was necessary to introduce the Michael Fassbender character. Mike Myers didn't need to be there, but the scene did.

Honestly to establish what it did (including the undercover aspect of the whole thing) any scene of exposition could have done. But nonetheless this is a silly discussion that I needlessly started.

RonStoppable
01/18/10, 07:26 PM
I didn't mind 500 Days, but I really didn't think of it as a comedy. It was actually kind of depressing. The Hangover I've watched three times and it's still hilarious, so that's worth something to me. But once again, A Serious Man should have won (and been fucking nominated).

Agreed. A Serious Man was outstanding.

cshadows2887
01/18/10, 08:39 PM
:shrug:

it made me laugh a few times throughout, but it wasn't really even the movie itself, just zack galifianakis. the only parts i laughed at were his jokes.

don't plan on seeing it again.

See, my favorite line in the whole movie is a Bradley Cooper line. "Who was that guy? He was so MEAN!"

Oh and Ed Helms' piano song.

PaperRival-Jake
01/19/10, 07:25 AM
for best comedy.... you're either one of the 5 people who didn't find it funny or you're a 50 year old woman who would've rather seen It's Complicated win that award.

The hangover is the most hyped movie to come out since Napoleon Dynamite. There were better comedies this year. Adentureland or I Love You, Man or both should have been nominated. However, (500) Days of Summer was a better movie on almost all levels. And to be honest, I didn't "love" 500 Days of Summer.

live.
01/19/10, 07:38 AM
Glad Michael C. Hall won for Dexter. Well deserved.

Agreed. Very glad he's doing okay.

Also stoked for Lithgow, and bummed for K. Bigelow.

manican sex
01/19/10, 08:04 AM
I thought the best part of the award show was the Scorsese Tribute. Bob and Leo had a lot of great things to say about him. My favorite filmmaker by far.

deadkidsean
01/19/10, 08:25 AM
The Overatedover shouldn't have won ANYTHING. I liked it, but let's get real about it all the hype it has. You could completely eliminate Bradley Cooper from the film and no one would notice - he adds absolutely nothing. Ed Helms and Zach carried it, clearly, to wherever it was going (which was nowhere).

kwsqd
01/19/10, 08:43 AM
The hangover is the most hyped movie to come out since Napoleon Dynamite. There were better comedies this year. Adentureland or I Love You, Man or both should have been nominated. However, (500) Days of Summer was a better movie on almost all levels. And to be honest, I didn't "love" 500 Days of Summer.
What are these levels?
Plot?
Humor?
Acting?
Music?
Script?

The only thing you could make an argument for is music and that is very debatable.

alight/electric
01/19/10, 08:52 AM
I was genuinely mystified with a lot of the winners. I like most of the TV winners (go Collette for a very well-deserved Best Actress), but I was sort of in shock at the people who took home the film Golden Globes.

Thank god we have the Oscars. Hopefully we'll have some slightly more deserving winners.

Indoor Living
01/19/10, 08:56 AM
This is just my opinion, but I didn't like Inglorious Basterds because it felt to me like just another Quentin Tarantino flick. The (sometimes) long stretches of dialogue that weren't very funny, the pointless Michael Myers cameo. Christopher Waltz did a great jobs, especially in that opening scene, but I was sorely disappointed in the film.

I certainly enjoyed Avatar more because imo it was the more enjoyable movie to watch. The visuals were stunning (especially in 3-D), and in a lot of ways James Cameron created another world I enjoyed getting lost in for a little over 2 and a half hours.
You didn't like the opening stretch of long dialogue, but you liked Waltz in the opening scene? I'm confused.

thursday727
01/19/10, 09:13 AM
I'm just glad Dexter finally got a bunch of awards , i don't really care about anything else.

Recovery Room
01/19/10, 10:24 AM
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manican sex
01/19/10, 10:25 AM
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batmannj
01/19/10, 10:28 AM
You didn't like the opening stretch of long dialogue, but you liked Waltz in the opening scene? I'm confused.

I worded that wrong. I meant to say that I thought that a majority of the scenes in the film were overlong, self-indulgent pieces of the only thing QT loves more than QT "The Director" is QT "The Writer." However, I thought the opening scene was one of the better scenes Tarantino has ever done, I felt like that was the exception, and not the rule, to the movie itself. This is just my opinion and I understand I am in the vast minority of people who did not enjoy this film.

Indoor Living
01/19/10, 12:58 PM
See, my favorite line in the whole movie is a Bradley Cooper line. "Who was that guy? He was so MEAN!"

Oh and Ed Helms' piano song.
That song is the most nonsensical filler I've EVER seen in a movie.

PaperRival-Jake
01/19/10, 02:04 PM
What are these levels?
Plot?
Humor?
Acting?
Music?
Script?

The only thing you could make an argument for is music and that is very debatable.

Hangover is a re-tread of all bachelor movies. To be honest, a lot of the acting was bad. Mike Tyson and the Asian guy come to mind. I do REALLY like The Hangover I just thought 500 days was a tad more refreshing. Nothing to argue.

kwsqd
01/20/10, 06:13 AM
Hangover is a re-tread of all bachelor movies. To be honest, a lot of the acting was bad. Mike Tyson and the Asian guy come to mind. I do REALLY like The Hangover I just thought 500 days was a tad more refreshing. Nothing to argue.
That's fair. I feel that 500 days of summer wasn't refreshing or interesting, at all. While the hangover was just a well executed comedy but nothing more.

Why Bother?
01/20/10, 08:07 AM
Give Douche Cameron an award for best director, I don't care, he may actually deserve it for all he did for this movie, but don't give Avatar an award for best film because it just sucks at that.

cshadows2887
01/20/10, 09:49 PM
That song is the most nonsensical filler I've EVER seen in a movie.

Why does funny have to equal making sense? Sometimes we need a little sillyness.

Indoor Living
01/20/10, 10:00 PM
Why does funny have to equal making sense? Sometimes we need a little sillyness.
The rest of it is silly, yet somewhat, maybe plausible. Writing a song on the spot about their missing friend? I don't know, I just didn't dig it.

cshadows2887
01/20/10, 10:14 PM
The rest of it is silly, yet somewhat, maybe plausible. Writing a song on the spot about their missing friend? I don't know, I just didn't dig it.

Maybe it's just because I'm a musician, but I found it plausible. I (and freinds of mine, too) will pick up a guitar or sit down at the piano and rattle off a little goof song pretty freqeuntly.