Skipping Portland? I'm Pissed.

[Jason Tate]

Cute is What We Aim For (http://www.absolutepunk.net/cuteiswhatweaimfor) have reportedly dropped off the tour for at least tomorrow's date, we'll post more news if we get it.
Apparently there is a serious family issue that the lead singer of the band is flying home to deal with. We sincerely (and I don't care if you don't believe me, but I am being genuine) wish Shaant the best of luck during these times and offer anything we can do to help. I've been through something similar and know what it feels like. Our prayers are with him and his family. - Jason Tate

[Steve Henderson]

Haha, they're afraid of you.

[jhennis]

They don't want you reviewing their show obviously.

[xowearmeout]

haha. so true.

[PJ1336]

what a tragedy.

[8:17am]

what a tragedy.

The banner in your sig is the best one I've seen on this site.

[xowearmeout]

The banner in your sig is the best one I've seen on this site.

your username is quite possibly the best one i've seen on this site.

[Ruggiero2oo8]

Haha, they're afraid of you.



haha, yes.

[Anton Djamoos]

Hahahahaha drama drama drama.

AbsolutePunk: Come for the news, stay for the drama.

[8:17am]

your username is quite possibly the best one i've seen on this site.

If you weren't being sarcastic, thank you.

[xowearmeout]

If you weren't being sarcastic, thank you.

lol, no sarcasm. it's clever.

[8:17am]

lol, no sarcasm. it's clever.

It's the exact time that I was born.

[xowearmeout]

It's the exact time that I was born.

clever clever clever.

[make_this_hurt]

I think they're scared of getting jumped by Tate's posse.

[8:17am]

I think they're scared of getting jumped by Tate's posse.

If Tate's posse was going to jump Cute is What We Aim For, I'd be on the first plane out to Portland to join said posse, if for no other reason than to beat up some people.

[Steve Henderson]

considering you guys reported about bands getting kicked off of warped and everything Im sure this is legit and someone is sick or something..but then again thats the mature look at thingsWhy not take it exactly in the way it is posted? He cited his source and said more details to follow. Kill the vendetta, man!

[carxunderwaterx]

shaant is sick. the singer for valencia had to help him sing 2 days ago in Utah. shaant always gets sick on tour. i promise thats the truth.

[Jason Tate]

considering you guys reported about bands getting kicked off of warped and everything Im sure this is legit and someone is sick or something..but then again thats the mature look at things
1) I believe that FFTL post was corrected within 30 minutes of being posted; furthermore, had I been awake that morning it never woulda hit the news section in the form it did to begin with.

2) The SKSK incident was confirmed by people on Warped, one such email (name ommited):

"Hey Jason....I told Ryan about the Scary Kids incident. Production sent out letters to all the production busses saying what SKSK did and that they were off the tour. Then, the next day, they just suspended them for a day for their actions so they missed the Pomona date. I just didn't want you blaming that on Ryan. Production wanted to scare everyone so they printed those letters. It was kinda like what Emery did last year but they got suspended 4 days on Warped. Anyway, sorry about that. Take care man..."

3) This is directly from the mouth of someone on this tour - they wish to remain annonymous so as not to "get in trouble" or piss anyone off - but it's been confirmed by two different bands on the tour now. From what I know there are "family" problems or something.

4) Don't you have a website no one visits to run instead of looking to pick apart everything we do?

5) Yes, I was going to go to the show. No, I wasn't going to be obnoxious, I just really wanted to see Lydia. Yes, I'm still planning on going.

[fedhed7]

Since when is cowardice a sickness?

[8:17am]

clever clever clever.

More people should think so.

[iihungrieii]

haha they probably dropped off because of jason.

[8:17am]

4) Don't you have a website no one visits to run instead of looking to pick apart everything we do?

Tate just owned your ass. You're his now, deal with it.

[xowearmeout]

More people should think so.

nah. cause then i wouldn't be special. :]

[Steve Henderson]

Tate just owned your ass. You're his now, deal with it.He doesn't run Mammoth Press, another guy does. But yeah no need to try and fuck with AP.

[Jason Tate]

He doesn't run Mammoth Press, another guy does. But yeah no need to try and fuck with AP.
Well, he deserves a :efu: anyway.

[8:17am]

nah. cause then i wouldn't be special. :]

Fair enough. Enjoy specialness.

[xowearmeout]

Fair enough. Enjoy specialness.

oh, i will.

[xowearmeout]

Well, he deserves a :efu: anyway.

indeed.

[8:17am]

He doesn't run Mammoth Press, another guy does. But yeah no need to try and fuck with AP.

Yeah, Tate doesn't fuck around. I personally think he should hire me to be like the AP.net foot soldier who goes around insulting people all day. I'd be good at that. I think you and Tate and the rest of the staff/users have it pretty well handled though.

[8:17am]

Well, he deserves a :efu: anyway.

You're like the webmaster version of Stewie from Family Guy.

[8:17am]

oh, i will.

Glad to hear it.

[xbrandnewxsnowx]

Meh, we didn't want them here anyways.

Well, at least I didn't.

[xowearmeout]

Glad to hear it.

:freakout:

enjoying specialness, still.

[unholy_amanda]

More people should think so. I personally think it's brilliant. I wish I could be that clever. I was born at 2:16 PM, 5/31/89. Hmm thanks for the idea for a new screen name. :)

[FrostedFlames]

Any info on CIWWAF being replaced by someone? Are the other bands going to be playing longer sets?

Also, I've seen on myspace and the bands websites that Forgive Durden will also be playing this show, but I have also seen some sites and myspaces that say they wont. Anyone know?

[Katie Schmitz]

Bummer

[mpw]

good. one show saved of the horror.

they were scared of Tate,

and Lydia is good.

[reductiondesign]

Missing CIWWAF is a GOOD thing.

[The Matt Kaufman]

Well, he deserves a :efu: anyway.
whoa whoa whoa..ok maybe my post came off a little strong..all I meant was we should take it with a grain of salt as with anything thats reported on the internet..I apologize as Im not trying to start anything..and I also deleted my other post to back up what I am saying here

as far as me getting a fuck you if ud like to explain that to me Id like to know what I did to deserve that and put anything aside and be mature and respectful you can give me an IM or pm here as Id like to iron out anything. Thanks.

That goes to you steve too.

/rant

[Big_Guy]

I hope you are all joking about them being afraid of Tate.

that said, this band is terrible

[emerson1892]

Well, he deserves a :efu: anyway.


This fuckin guy. Very elitist, I like that.

[fluke182]

I think they're scared of getting jumped by Tate's posse.
Word on the street was Tate and his boy Zidane were going, and CIWWAF was rather worried about the possibility of being headbutted. Needless to say they weren't interested in that kind of pain, so they decided to probably get nodes on their throats or whatever exactly always happens to sick bands.

[Big_Guy]

4) Don't you have a website no one visits to run instead of looking to pick apart everything we do?

oh, and reading ^this kind of shit every other day makes me sick. Jason, you have the biggest ego of any human I have ever come across.

[SydBarrett 420]

I have it on good word from a person who is in the "know" with this band that they are douches.

[8:17am]

I personally think it's brilliant. I wish I could be that clever. I was born at 2:16 PM, 5/31/89. Hmm thanks for the idea for a new screen name. :)

And my fan club grows...

[NanoSR]

I hope shaant a speedy recovery and the band best of luck

[The Matt Kaufman]

oh, and reading ^this kind of shit every other day makes me sick. Jason, you have the biggest ego of any human I have ever come across.

you have good thinking..but its his site so he pretty much can say or do what he wants remember..but good point.

[Steve Henderson]

whoa whoa whoa..ok maybe my post came off a little strong..all I meant was we should take it with a grain of salt as with anything thats reported on the internet..I apologize as Im not trying to start anything..and I also deleted my other post to back up what I am saying here

as far as me getting a fuck you if ud like to explain that to me Id like to know what I did to deserve that and put anything aside and be mature and respectful you can give me an IM or pm here as Id like to iron out anything. Thanks.

That goes to you steve too.

/rantYeah it did come across as the same old "hey AP.net is bullshit gossip" but I understand if you didn't mean anything by it. It's the internet - people come across all sorts of ways. Not a problem.

And trust me, I have obviously been on both sides of the AP.net fence. Things get skewed to most readers, I can attest.

[The Matt Kaufman]

Yeah it did come across as the same old "hey AP.net is bullshit gossip" but I understand if you didn't mean anything by it. It's the internet - people come across all sorts of ways. Not a problem.

And trust me, I have obviously been on both sides of the AP.net fence. Things get skewed to most readers, I can attest.

I knew you were a good man :)..thats exactly what I was trying to get across

[Big_Guy]

you have good thinking..but its his site so he pretty much can say or do what he wants remember..but good point.
this thread makes me think he should start his own religion.

ridiculous

[The Matt Kaufman]

this thread makes me think he should start his own religion.

ridiculous

tatism? hmm..sounds catchy lol

[Steve Henderson]

this thread makes me think he should start his own religion.

ridiculousThe thing is, you guys WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT! If you think Jason has an ego, what do you think whine-ass posts like yours do? Just let it go, man!

[The Matt Kaufman]

The thing is, you guys WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT! If you think Jason has an ego, what you whine-ass posts like yours do? Just let it go, man!

touche

[Big_Guy]

The thing is, you guys WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT! If you think Jason has an ego, what you whine-ass posts like yours do? Just let it go, man!
sure, but it really boggles my mind that someone that does something so insignificant such as running an online zine can have such a giant ego.

I'm done

[Steve Henderson]

sure, but it really boggles my mind that someone that does something so insignificant such as running an online zine can have such a giant ego.Honestly, he has built up a site from a tiny ass nothing to a freaking behemoth that generates enough income to live off of. That is pretty cool to me, for one.

And second, he gets to run the thing how he wants, that is the luxury of it. If it pisses people off so much what Jason says, stop going to the site, or put him on ignore. Pretty easy, man.

[The Matt Kaufman]

sure, but it really boggles my mind that someone that does something so insignificant such as running an online zine can have such a giant ego.

I'm done

I think hed have an ego regardless man..thats just how he is.oh well. such is life.

[Steve Henderson]

I think hed have an ego regardless man..thats just how he is.oh well. such is life.Well, to be fair, just like your post got misunderstood, and you did not understand it, so does some of his shit. I know, because before I was staff here I got into some heated ass debates with him and called him out a lot. But now after having talked on a different level with Jason, I realize a) a lot of it is joking around/tongue-in-cheek, or b) inflammatory for amusement's sake.

So just let it roll off, and think if there might be another way it was intended.

[The Matt Kaufman]

Well, to be fair, just like your post got misunderstood, and you did not understand it, so does some of his shit. I know, because before I was staff here I got into some heated ass debates with him and called him out a lot. But now after having talked on a different level with Jason, I realize a) a lot of it is joking around/tongue-in-cheek, or b) inflammatory for amusement's sake.

So just let it roll off, and think if there might be another way it was intended.

def words of wisdom..you are right..definitely those q's for cute is what we aim for im guessing was in that way? but again he can do what he wants it is his site. so ego no ego joking around no joking around it doesnt matter (you know what I mean)..Id probably think the same way he does if I was him

[aminorthreat55]

I hope shaant a speedy recovery and the band best of luck
Same here.

[Steve Henderson]

def words of wisdom..you are right..definitely those q's for cute is what we aim for im guessing was in that way? but again he can do what he wants it is his site. so ego no ego joking around no joking around it doesnt matter (you know what I mean)..Id probably think the same way he does if I was himYou're a good egg too, Matt.

[drainyourheart]

that sucks they were one reason i was going to the show tomorrow. Oh well I can still see them in Chicago on August 2nd with HIT THE LIGHTS!!

[The Matt Kaufman]

You're a good egg too, Matt.

haha i dont know if u meant to reference it but was that a willy wonka reference?

[konstantine94]

that sucks they were one reason i was going to the show tomorrow. Oh well I can still see them in Chicago on August 2nd with HIT THE LIGHTS!!

i live in portland, and i am going to chicago. and i am LEAVING the day before the hit the light show! damn.. i will see them when i get home.

i think this website is awesome.. i am not a big fan of the gossip, but I respect why Jason posts it so I don't really have a problem with it.

[*crying stars*]

hmmm...

[night in town]

shaant just posted a lengthy myspace bulletin about this matter.

[Jason Tate]

shaant just posted a lengthy myspace bulletin about this matter.
Saying ...

[overoverme]

Saying ...

That alot of personal shit is going down, that he is on a plane as we speak...
That he feels terrible that he has to attend to these things now.

He ends it with


'-i am sorry-
so this is proof that everyone is a let down...'

He is not exactly in the best of moods.

(The bulletin is VERY long, but thats the jist.)

I think he more than explained himself. Most bands get away with muchmuch less for canceling things.
(I'm looking at YOU horsetheband...)

[xowearmeout]

wow i really hope everything's alright...

[The Matt Kaufman]

I commend you Jason for posting a note like that..
my thoughts are with the band as well..

[dirtysouth]

can someone copy/paste the myspace bulletin?

[night in town]

can someone copy/paste the myspace bulletin?

-an apology-
i have written countless entries in the past few weeks...but none that i deem worthy of a read. some have spanned pages, pages full of rambling and fear. some have spanned 4 words of distaste and appreciation...but now as i fly 30,000 feet over middle American am allowing myself to convey some of whats been going on with me. as of late i have found myself running into numerous problems. most of them are personal in reference to my family and some internal issues i have been having...which is shitty..this means that people are left to wonder and question some of my late actions. some shows are going to be missed so i can just take time to sort out a lot of the stuff that is going on with me. i realize that i am one of the luckiest 19 year olds and that a lot of people are going to be let down by us missing these shows...but sometimes when things happen...it allows me to faulter into a realm that isnt very pleasant. i have a very hard time trusting people and as a result i have bottled far too much since Janurary when i got some horrible news...my goal is to open up and let all of you see what has been plaguing me. i am very very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you...but i can promise you one thing. allowing a little bit of time to just escape and seek some help...it will enable us to have a fucking fit and legit tour with Paramore, Hit The Lights, & This Providence. i have never dealt with something like this..but i can assure you things will be ok and i will make it up to you.

i hate my own bones.
why cant they bend like the models in the magazines?
this is a warm up class for the plane crash that i call my self-esteem.
the pressure to perform is something that i cannot ignore.
sex is only in the form of text when it comes to my own context.
and thoughtlessness is just a reflex
i under eat and fail to meet my status qoua
lip lockers are sweet talkers and i havent been locked up in a quite some time. (bitter)
i fly solo at every chance i get
isolation in vain is the name of my game.
i bottle up and bottle my bottle shut.
its the method to my medium.
i have an entourage of camouflage.
we crash parties with pastries and daisies.
my best friends are:
my Tréo, my macintosh, my hoodies, my dunks, my chucks, my rock & republics, my vitamin water,my iPod, my DVDs, my medication, my MySpace.
together we lead lavish lifestyles.
i only seek sanity within this tight knit group...
and though they may lack a pulse
they keep me from falling to my false alter-ego
i am on the fence when it comes to reality and sickness.
if it werent for them...
id be a shit talker with a sluts sex drive.
its pathetic that i cannot cope with my self doubt.
its pathetic that i seek comfort in harmful things.
its pathetic that i cant keep up with my life.
its pathetic.
the skin that wraps me tight is putting up a good fight.
i am slipping and this isnt the blast i wanted.
this isnt the path i wanted.
i have been under this cloud in the past...
i am shaking with fear of a relapse.
a record i wrote is helping people and giving them hope...
but now i need to write another one just so i can have some to...
i am calling all cars once again, but i dont even have their new numbers.
if i had a choice right now... i would take a bow.
leave my peers with a grin somehow
but id take a bow.

-bullets-
-when things in ones life happen without warning it leaves you wary.
-i have seen my only sister get married and look ravishing in her wedding dress. i have seen the sparkle in her eye that proved to me that love does exist...and its obtainable.
-the record has surpassed and shocked my own expectations with the early sales.
-i have heard some awful news in reference to my old family...
-i have kept a secret from everyone around me and its getting very hard to keep in as of
late. people just dont understand..but i keep this way b/c i hate excuses and i hate pity.
-i am beginning to get very very scared that i will disappoint those who support me...
-i have learned how to smile even when my teeth are too tired to be teeth.
-i will find a way out of this but my body just might not make it...

-lessons-
-embrace every second with the ones you love b/c you never know if its your last.
-sleep.
-appreciate everything fortunate thing that happens to you. even if you feel as if you are not nearly worthy enough for them.
-apologize for the things you cant always help..b/c you never know who you are letting down.

-i am sorry-
so this is proof that everyone is a let down...

[bust_a_move]

i'm glad you put aside your differences to wish him the best of luck.

[Jason Tate]

-an apology-
i have written countless entries in the past few weeks...but none that i deem worthy of a read. some have spanned pages, pages full of rambling and fear. some have spanned 4 words of distaste and appreciation...but now as i fly 30,000 feet over middle American am allowing myself to convey some of whats been going on with me. as of late i have found myself running into numerous problems. most of them are personal in reference to my family and some internal issues i have been having...which is shitty..this means that people are left to wonder and question some of my late actions. some shows are going to be missed so i can just take time to sort out a lot of the stuff that is going on with me. i realize that i am one of the luckiest 19 year olds and that a lot of people are going to be let down by us missing these shows...but sometimes when things happen...it allows me to faulter into a realm that isnt very pleasant. i have a very hard time trusting people and as a result i have bottled far too much since Janurary when i got some horrible news...my goal is to open up and let all of you see what has been plaguing me. i am very very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you...but i can promise you one thing. allowing a little bit of time to just escape and seek some help...it will enable us to have a fucking fit and legit tour with Paramore, Hit The Lights, & This Providence. i have never dealt with something like this..but i can assure you things will be ok and i will make it up to you.

i hate my own bones.
why cant they bend like the models in the magazines?
this is a warm up class for the plane crash that i call my self-esteem.
the pressure to perform is something that i cannot ignore.
sex is only in the form of text when it comes to my own context.
and thoughtlessness is just a reflex
i under eat and fail to meet my status qoua
lip lockers are sweet talkers and i havent been locked up in a quite some time. (bitter)
i fly solo at every chance i get
isolation in vain is the name of my game.
i bottle up and bottle my bottle shut.
its the method to my medium.
i have an entourage of camouflage.
we crash parties with pastries and daisies.
my best friends are:
my Tréo, my macintosh, my hoodies, my dunks, my chucks, my rock & republics, my vitamin water,my iPod, my DVDs, my medication, my MySpace.
together we lead lavish lifestyles.
i only seek sanity within this tight knit group...
and though they may lack a pulse
they keep me from falling to my false alter-ego
i am on the fence when it comes to reality and sickness.
if it werent for them...
id be a shit talker with a sluts sex drive.
its pathetic that i cannot cope with my self doubt.
its pathetic that i seek comfort in harmful things.
its pathetic that i cant keep up with my life.
its pathetic.
the skin that wraps me tight is putting up a good fight.
i am slipping and this isnt the blast i wanted.
this isnt the path i wanted.
i have been under this cloud in the past...
i am shaking with fear of a relapse.
a record i wrote is helping people and giving them hope...
but now i need to write another one just so i can have some to...
i am calling all cars once again, but i dont even have their new numbers.
if i had a choice right now... i would take a bow.
leave my peers with a grin somehow
but id take a bow.

-bullets-
-when things in ones life happen without warning it leaves you wary.
-i have seen my only sister get married and look ravishing in her wedding dress. i have seen the sparkle in her eye that proved to me that love does exist...and its obtainable.
-the record has surpassed and shocked my own expectations with the early sales.
-i have heard some awful news in reference to my old family...
-i have kept a secret from everyone around me and its getting very hard to keep in as of
late. people just dont understand..but i keep this way b/c i hate excuses and i hate pity.
-i am beginning to get very very scared that i will disappoint those who support me...
-i have learned how to smile even when my teeth are too tired to be teeth.
-i will find a way out of this but my body just might not make it...

-lessons-
-embrace every second with the ones you love b/c you never know if its your last.
-sleep.
-appreciate everything fortunate thing that happens to you. even if you feel as if you are not nearly worthy enough for them.
-apologize for the things you cant always help..b/c you never know who you are letting down.

-i am sorry-
so this is proof that everyone is a let down...
Doesn't ravish also mean (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=ravishing) "to rape against their will"?

[mikearduini9]

Doesn't ravish also mean (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=ravishing) "to rape against their will"?

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tr.v. rav·ished, rav·ish·ing, rav·ish·es

To seize and carry away by force.
To rape; violate.
To overwhelm with emotion; enrapture.

[joeshmoe909]

Shit happens and it sucks. I wish Shaant the best.

[iihungrieii]

i wish him the best of luck.

[Cali Dreaming]

I heard it had something to do with Spitalfield and the whole tour situation. :unsure:

[together]

truth right here: drug addiction, eating disorder

[Salomonbz90]

The banner in your sig is the best one I've seen on this site.
If Baltimore makes it to the playoffs I will personally mail you $20.


goodluck with that.

[Russ Hockenbury]

Honestly, he has built up a site from a tiny ass nothing to a freaking behemoth that generates enough income to live off of. That is pretty cool to me, for one.

And second, he gets to run the thing how he wants, that is the luxury of it. If it pisses people off so much what Jason says, stop going to the site, or put him on ignore. Pretty easy, man.

You are the biggest ass-kisser I've known in my entire life. Haha, oh Steve.

[overoverme]

truth right here: drug addiction, eating disorder

He is straight-edge, and no, definately not.

[Steve Henderson]

You are the biggest ass-kisser I've known in my entire life. Haha, oh Steve.
Oh, Russ, we cannot all be the personifications of social protests that you are, you little nonconformist, you.

Don't you have slanted black and white pictures of yourself in your boxers to be taking?

[backstagebethy]

Doesn't ravish also mean (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=ravishing) "to rape against their will"?

As opposed to raping with someone's blessing?

[nicolerork]

I don't like this band.

[xowearmeout]

Oh, Russ, we cannot all be the personifications of social protests that you are, you little nonconformist, you.

Don't you have slanted black and white pictures of yourself in your boxers to be taking?

hahaha. again, i must ask you to marry me..

[Steve Henderson]

hahaha. again, i must ask you to marry me..
Haha, enjoy being young and free...you will have the rest of your life to nag an unsuspecting male. :)

[lostntheseethru]

ok so i saw this thread last night but when i was on there was no news as to WHY so i didnt comment on any of it...so when i saw there was an explanation this morning i got this urge to read the whole thread....

it is waaaay weird to see steve stand up for tate. haha

i dont like this band, but i wish them the best in shaant dealing with whatever.

[xowearmeout]

Haha, enjoy being young and free...you will have the rest of your life to nag an unsuspecting male. :)

haha. fineeeeeeeee.

[BIG L]

Dumb

[VeritasAequitas]

feel bad for him but man, that kid forces his writing.

[Russ Hockenbury]

Oh, Russ, we cannot all be the personifications of social protests that you are, you little nonconformist, you.

Don't you have slanted black and white pictures of yourself in your boxers to be taking?

No, I'm making trailers now....here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ifuc5GfDAI/a>).

[Steve Henderson]

No, I'm making trailers now....here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ifuc5GfDAI/a%3E).Self-promotion thread, plz.

[Russ Hockenbury]

Self-promotion thread, plz.

Only you can prevent Haterism.

[CWeezer]

that's really terrbile. i hope everything works out for shaant.

[GencoRecords]

shaant is one of the most misunderstood people in this scene right now. if you dont like this music just dont listen, i have been on tour with ciwwaf multiple times and i have never seen a kid like shaant sign autographs and take pictures until every fan is satisfied. people can think what they want, but if you dont know him, just leave it alone. do not hate on a person because jason tate may have a problem with shaant. and if he does, its nobodys business except jason's and ciwwaf (shaant). (not saying anything negative about anyone, im a beleiver of keeping out of other peoples business)

on that note for the people who do actually care, we wish shaant our best and hope him, his family and his band are safe and healthy.

[.KillMoneen.]

shaant is one of the most misunderstood people in this scene right now. if you dont like this music just dont listen, i have been on tour with ciwwaf multiple times and i have never seen a kid like shaant sign autographs and take pictures until every fan is satisfied. people can think what they want, but if you dont know him, just leave it alone. do not hate on a person because jason tate may have a problem with shaant. and if he does, its nobodys business except jason's and ciwwaf (shaant). (not saying anything negative about anyone, im a beleiver of keeping out of other peoples business)

on that note for the people who do actually care, we wish shaant our best and hope him, his family and his band are safe and healthy.


i agree with you. I mean im sick of people hating on this band and shaant just because tate does. I notice that people hate on people just because it seems cool and they may have some sort of in. I mean fuck people think for yourselves for once.

[1moreandimfree]

still going to this show tonight in portland

[Chris Fallon]

I don't like to consider myself a "hater" on this band, but I will admit I don't find their music to be anything splendid. I listened to the album just to see if I would like it, but it gets annoying, that's all. I hate it when people accuse others of hating something just because Jason does...and then complain he has an ego - why wouldn't he? He has a powerful website that has a HUGE influence on the bands/music posted about on here. End of story. I'd kill to have that kind of power.

Might as well start your own religion, Jason. Although, this is pretty damned close.

Oh, and Spitalfield owns.

[Steve Henderson]

I don't like to consider myself a "hater" on this band, but I will admit I don't find their music to be anything splendid. I listened to the album just to see if I would like it, but it gets annoying, that's all. I hate it when people accuse others of hating something just because Jason does...and then complain he has an ego - why wouldn't he? He has a powerful website that has a HUGE influence on the bands/music posted about on here. End of story. I'd kill to have that kind of power.

Might as well start your own religion, Jason. Although, this is pretty damned close.

Oh, and Spitalfield owns.*pwns

[Chris Fallon]

*pwns

Thank you for the scene spellcheck, Steve. Haha

[Steve Henderson]

Thank you for the scene spellcheck, Steve. HahaAnytime n00ber. :)

[Chris Fallon]

Anytime n00ber. :)

Actually, I only recently joined because I got a new, better comp. and could finally use AP.net for realzzzzz.

I'm also afriad I'll be too cool for my own good by doing it the "scene" way. I just roll like that. haha