MLB mid season awards

[DaveFeelsRight]

well since the first half is over...you guys pick the awards!

[xbrokendownx]

i think we started doing this in the hot corner thread a few days ago

[bigmike]

AL MVP: Jim Thome, CHW
NL MVP: Albert Pujols, STL

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana, MIN
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb, ARI

AL Rookie of the Year: Francisco Liriano, MIN
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman, WSH

[StandMyBrothers]

mines are in the hot corner thread

[xbrokendownx]

AL MVP: Jason Giambi, NYY (yeah i know, im a homer, and no one else will pick him so im just trying to be different, but check out the dudes #s...he is worthy for consideration. ortiz will win it though)
NL MVP: Albert Pujols, STL

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana, MIN
NL Cy Young: Bronson Arroyo, CIN

AL Rookie of the Year: Francisco Liriano, MIN
NL Rookie of the Year: Dan Uggla, FLA

[mikeford]

ortiz and pujols

liriano and glavine

papelbon and fielder

[DaveFeelsRight]

Best Divison= AL Central

Biggest Surprise= Detroit Tigers

[Broken Parachute]

AL MVP: David Ortiz, BOS
NL MVP: Albert Pujols, STL

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana, MIN
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb, ARI

AL Rookie of the Year: Francisco Liriano, MIN
NL Rookie of the Year: Dan Uggla, FLA

[mikeford]

anyone picking bronson arroyo hasnt paid attention to him for a month

[Joe DeAndrea]

AL MVP: Jason Giambi
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Ron Halladay
NL Cy Young: Brad Penny

[xbrokendownx]

in the past month, arroyo's ERA has gone from 2.51 to 2.79. not that big of a deal if you ask me

[LeftWideOpen]

anyone not picking webb isn't watching baseball closely enough.

there really is little case against him ...his ERA, walk and SO totals are far superior to Glavine and Arroyo. The guy who probably has the 2nd best case is Brad Penny, the most underrated pitcher of the season so far.

[Broken Parachute]

AL MVP: Jason Giambi
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Ron Halladay
NL Cy Young: Brad Penny
Giambi over Ortiz?

Jason Giambi, NYY
.260, 27 HR, 72 RBI

David Ortiz, BOS
.278, 31 HR, 87 RBI

And his name is ROY HALLADAY not RON HALLADAY.

[Broken Parachute]

anyone not picking webb isn't watching baseball closely enough.

there really is little case against him ...his ERA, walk and SO totals are far superior to Glavine and Arroyo. The guy who probably has the 2nd best case is Brad Penny, the most underrated pitcher of the season so far.
Yeah I was just checking stats to make sure, I switched my vote. Penny is so underrated this year.

[xbrokendownx]

Giambi over Ortiz?

Jason Giambi, NYY
.260, 27 HR, 72 RBI

David Ortiz, BOS
.278, 31 HR, 87 RBI

And his name is ROY HALLADAY not RON HALLADAY.



haha i know i know, i picked him too, just to be different. i would pick ortiz normally though

[mikeford]

arroyo has won only once this month and got his ass absolutely kicked today.

anyone picking giambi is a pathetic yankee homer.

[xbrokendownx]

anyone saying ortiz deserved it more than ARod last year is probably a pathetic red sox homo then

[mikeford]

how does that make any sense? ortiz' numbers are WAY better than giambis... PLUS the walkoffs he's hit this season... eiryljkdshf;klwshdfglwgsjfkhz;SDFKl j

my braionz

thats it for me tonight. cant take anymore of this stupidity.

[xbrokendownx]

how does that make any sense? ortiz' numbers are WAY better than giambis... PLUS the walkoffs he's hit this season... eiryljkdshf;klwshdfglwgsjfkhz;SDFKl j

my braionz

thats it for me tonight. cant take anymore of this stupidity.





did you even read what i said? i said i only picked giambi to be different, i think ortiz deserves it more. relax

[bigmike]

i've been convinced. and looking at the numbers, webbs are better.

[bigmike]

did you even read what i said? i said i only picked giambi to be different, i think ortiz deserves it more. relax
...so why pick Giambi at all? this isn't too opinion based when someone clearly has better numbers.

If that's the case I want to switch my vote to Brandon Inge because no one else will pick him.

[LeftWideOpen]

anyone saying ortiz deserved it more than ARod last year is probably a pathetic red sox homo then

47 HR's, 148 RBI's, 397 OBP, 604 SLG compared to 48 HR's, 130 RBI's 421 OBP and 610 SLG.

It's not that different, especially when you consider the "clutch factor", which is really just another way of saying the number of big/walkoff hits he came up with ...it's not like Giambi and Ortiz this year and we're only at the halfway point. These totals are likely to separate even more in the 2nd half.

[xbrokendownx]

...so why pick Giambi at all? this isn't too opinion based when someone clearly has better numbers.

If that's the case I want to switch my vote to Brandon Inge because no one else will pick him.




because giambi at least deserves to be in the running for the mvp, while brandon inge doesnt, thats the difference. although he has the same first name as me, so i might slip him a few votes

[KB3RG]

AL MVP: Jim Thome
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Papelbon
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb

AL Rookie of the Year: Papelbon
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman

Biggest Surprise - Not Detroit, I figured 80 game + win season but not more than that. However the most shocking thing has to be Nomar is healthy haha and Bonds trainer didnt turn him in

[bigmike]

AL MVP: Jim Thome
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Papelbon
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb

AL Rookie of the Year: Papelbon
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman

Biggest Surprise - Not Detroit, I figured 80 game + win season but not more than that. However the most shocking thing has to be Nomar is healthy haha and Bonds trainer didnt turn him in
...not the biggest surprise? we're already 21 wins away from 80 and if we play .500 ball the rest of the way we'll be 96-66 which is probably a playoff spot or a game or two out. not to mention we're doing it with a closer that really is anything but lights out, we've had the most innings pitched in the majors by rookies at about 205 IP which is 26.5% of our IP this season which is also the most in the majors, have the best record in baseball, have the best pitching staff and a top 5 offense in the major leagues. whether you figured us for 80 wins or not, we are the biggest surprise. hands down.

[KB3RG]

I was trying to put some humor and different things then just saying Detroit being shocking. Most people know that what they are doing is great. They have an amazing pitching staff. I love it though, I use to always go see the Mudhens games. They are all coming up to the Tigers and producing. I am shocked with Miner producing as well as he has , not to mention Verlander. He is soooo good

[bigmike]

I was trying to put some humor and different things then just saying Detroit being shocking. Most people know that what they are doing is great. They have an amazing pitching staff. I love it though, I use to always go see the Mudhens games. They are all coming up to the Tigers and producing. I am shocked with Miner producing as well as he has , not to mention Verlander. He is soooo good
miner's been outstanding. best part of the farnsworth trade. he's been so good.

[Broken Parachute]

AL MVP: Jim Thome
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Papelbon
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb

AL Rookie of the Year: Papelbon
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman

Biggest Surprise - Not Detroit, I figured 80 game + win season but not more than that. However the most shocking thing has to be Nomar is healthy haha and Bonds trainer didnt turn him in

Detroit (2005 total): 71-91
Detroit (2006 so far): 59-29

Pretty big surprise there.

[wessa]

al mvp - thome
nl mvp - david wright

al cy young - roy halladay
nl cy young - brandon webb

al rookie - liriano
nl rookie - dan uggla

[wessa]

47 HR's, 148 RBI's, 397 OBP, 604 SLG compared to 48 HR's, 130 RBI's 421 OBP and 610 SLG.

It's not that different, especially when you consider the "clutch factor", which is really just another way of saying the number of big/walkoff hits he came up with ...it's not like Giambi and Ortiz this year and we're only at the halfway point. These totals are likely to separate even more in the 2nd half.

yeah, except that besides his four at bats, ortiz sits on the bench for the rest of the game. Hence the mvp rightfully went to ARod.

[StandMyBrothers]

Liriano is catching up on Cy Young and AL ROY

[bigmike]

Liriano is catching up on Cy Young and AL ROY
agreed.

[xearlynovemberx]

mike sweeps every category

[bigmike]

mike sweeps every category
haha.
:irule:

[LeftWideOpen]

yeah, except that besides his four at bats, ortiz sits on the bench for the rest of the game. Hence the mvp rightfully went to ARod.

yeah, i guess we shouldn't count pitchers either since they don't matter. they only play once every 5th day.

in fact, we should just let guys hit off a tee and let people field, since playing offense and defense everyday is apparently the criteria for MVP...anything else is meaningless.

:shake:

[wessa]

yeah, i guess we shouldn't count pitchers either since they don't matter. they only play once every 5th day.

in fact, we should just let guys hit off a tee and let people field, since playing offense and defense everyday is apparently the criteria for MVP...anything else is meaningless.

:shake:

i didnt say discount him, i said that since they had almost identical stats the mvp should go to the guy who gives his team great defense in the field.

[LeftWideOpen]

i didnt say discount him, i said that since they had almost identical stats the mvp should go to the guy who gives his team great defense in the field.

which is why he won it ...i'm not saying it should have been Ortiz, I was just responding that it wasnt absurd that he was heavily considered because the numbers were close to identical.

that isnt the case with giambi and ortiz this season.

[hockey0001]

yeah, except that besides his four at bats, ortiz sits on the bench for the rest of the game. Hence the mvp rightfully went to ARod.

I can somewhat agree with that. Defense should only really be considered if 2 players stats are virtually identical. I mean Jose Canseco won an MVP and his defense is awful. And if any tries to argue that Giambi should win it instead of Ortiz because of defense then they are a complete idiot

[xearlynovemberx]

livethesounds would looking something like this

nl mvp:lance berkamn
nl cy young:roy oswalt

[livethesounds]

livethesounds would looking something like this

nl mvp:lance berkamn
nl cy young:roy oswalt

thats quite funny. now how bout trying to make a post with an actual take instead of making fun or people or agreeing or disagreeing. i dont think ive seen a real post from you yet.

my REAL awards
NL MVP: Albert Puljols - STL
NL CY YOUNG: Bronson Arroyo - CIN
NL ROY: Dan Uggla - FLA

AL MVP: Jim Thome - CHW
AL CY YOUNG: Johan Santana - MIN
AL ROY: Francisco Liriano - MIN

[Flags of Dawn]

biggest letdown: milwaukee brewers.

hopefully they can get hot in the second half, which they have a history of doing.

[StandMyBrothers]

thats quite funny. now how bout trying to make a post with an actual take instead of making fun or people or agreeing or disagreeing. i dont think ive seen a real post from you yet.

my REAL awards
NL MVP: Albert Puljols - STL
NL CY YOUNG: Bronson Arroyo - CIN
NL ROY: Dan Uggla - FLA

AL MVP: Jim Thome - CHW
AL CY YOUNG: Johan Santana - MIN
AL ROY: Francisco Liriano - MIN
Pujols* You must have been to busy watching the homerun he hit off Lidge then the name on the Jersey

[LeftWideOpen]

biggest letdown: milwaukee brewers.

hopefully they can get hot in the second half, which they have a history of doing.

I wouldnt call them that big of a letdown. They are in the wild card race (given its the NL) and they are just above .500. Anyone expecting a 90 win season was smoking some wacky shit.

Biggest letdown, if you ask me, has been Anaheim. Atlanta is a close 2nd, although I think a lot of people expected them to steadily decline.

[StandMyBrothers]

I'm so glad Anaheim is sucking balls again this year. Just like in 2003.

[mikeford]

how could anyone pick bronson arroyo

he hasnt even cracked 10 wins yet.

[StandMyBrothers]

I kinda am not dissapointed I dropped him in a fantasy league. He lost 7 straight.

[Flags of Dawn]

I wouldnt call them that big of a letdown. They are in the wild card race (given its the NL) and they are just above .500. Anyone expecting a 90 win season was smoking some wacky shit.

Biggest letdown, if you ask me, has been Anaheim. Atlanta is a close 2nd, although I think a lot of people expected them to steadily decline.
yeah but they are definitely not playing to their potential. they're inconsistent as hell. if they get hot though, which they haven't yet this year, im sure they'll make the playoffs. and i will be at the first playoff game at miller park.

[bigmike]

yeah but they are definitely not playing to their potential. they're inconsistent as hell. if they get hot though, which they haven't yet this year, im sure they'll make the playoffs. and i will be at the first playoff game at miller park.
yeah, but their such a young team, i think that their 'inconsistent' is who they are.

[johnx]

arroyo is so bad compared to webb, glavine, and penny

[Brownpants06]

So, I wonder how possible:


Rookie of Year, All-Star, AL Cy Young, and AL MVP is all in one year.


That would be insane.

[StandMyBrothers]

So, I wonder how possible:


Rookie of Year, All-Star, AL Cy Young, and AL MVP is all in one year.


That would be insane.
Liriano or Papelbon, I hope were talking about Liriano

[werealldudes19]

biggest letdown
A-rod
im a yankee fan
he fucking blows
he's done one good thing all year. mvp's come everyday and make things happen
he doesnt do shit, terrible waste of money

[xbrokendownx]

biggest letdown
A-rod
im a yankee fan
he fucking blows
he's done one good thing all year. mvp's come everyday and make things happen
he doesnt do shit, terrible waste of money




i hate fans like you


he hasnt done anything? dudes like 5th in the AL in rbi and is top 5 in go ahead/tying RBI hits. give the guy a fucking break. seriously, if this is how you are, stop being a yankees fan. we dont want fans like you

[bigmike]

biggest letdown
A-rod
im a yankee fan
he fucking blows
he's done one good thing all year. mvp's come everyday and make things happen
he doesnt do shit, terrible waste of money
yeah. such a waste of money. he's only on pace for .282, 36 HRs, and 124 RBIs. you know, pretty shitty for such an average to mediocre player such as arod.

[StandMyBrothers]

yeah. such a waste of money. he's only on pace for .282, 36 HRs, and 124 RBIs. you know, pretty shitty for such an average to mediocre player such as arod.
your sarcasm kills me seriously.the lidge one was hilarious.

[ActorInThisPlay]

AL MVP: Jim Thome
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Papelbon
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb

AL Rookie of the Year: Papelbon
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman

Biggest Surprise - Not Detroit, I figured 80 game + win season but not more than that. However the most shocking thing has to be Nomar is healthy haha and Bonds trainer didnt turn him in
I honestly believe that a closer should never win Cy Young...that's just me though.

AL MVP: David Ortiz
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb

AL ROY: Francisco Liriano
NL ROY: Dan Uggla

[bigmike]

your sarcasm kills me seriously.the lidge one was hilarious.
haha.

I aim to please.

[livethesounds]

Pujols* You must have been to busy watching the homerun he hit off Lidge then the name on the Jersey

no, I was *TOO* busy watching all the other cardinals shell his ass. Seriously dude, don't try to correct someones spelling and then do the same damn thing.

[mikeford]

if liriano steals the ROY from Papelbon, I'm gonna be pissed.

[Brownpants06]

yeah. such a waste of money. he's only on pace for .282, 36 HRs, and 124 RBIs. you know, pretty shitty for such an average to mediocre player such as arod.


like no shit a-rod should hit at least 60 hr and 150 RBI per year. god.