Did We Really Need Another Reason to Hate Texas!? [Archive]

Smeee

01/19/10, 01:07 PM

I had no idea the US was so anti-Keynesian. Learn something new every day. I guess I'm a little naive about American economics.

Aiming to justify McCarthyism is pretty ridiculous though.

jwicklun

01/19/10, 01:15 PM

Wow. First the stamp on evolution, now this. Maybe Texas should really consider becoming a independent nation.

wrppdarndyrfngr

01/19/10, 01:18 PM

I had no idea the US was so anti-Keynesian. Learn something new every day. I guess I'm a little naive about American economics.

Aiming to justify McCarthyism is pretty ridiculous though.

its very Keynesian vs, Free Market (Freidman) here.

google Saltwater vs Freshwater Economics

SpacePunk

01/19/10, 01:27 PM

This is about as bullshit as it gets. Putting education in the hands of people with an agenda is a dangerous thing.

Education always has and always will be in the hands of people with agendas.

It's just that these Texans are ridiculously overt and partisan about it.

showyourteeth

01/19/10, 01:32 PM

oh boy
proud to be a texan
:/

rawspinner

01/19/10, 01:40 PM

states rights :-(

cory-182

01/19/10, 01:55 PM

At least the text will be in proper English.

GeeBee

01/19/10, 01:59 PM

Texas, Utah welcomes you to the Commonwealth of States for a Christian Theocracy- The CSCT. Since someone already used up the swastika, you'll just have to put a cross/gun hybrid on your insignia.

Bobmoko

01/19/10, 02:33 PM

Wow. First the stamp on evolution, now this. Maybe Texas should really consider becoming a independent nation.
fine by me im a fellow texan and i love it here all you California tree huggin fruity environmentalists can go save a tree or go stop global warming if thats what you believe!!

jwicklun

01/19/10, 02:36 PM

fine by me im a fellow texan and i love it here all you California tree huggin fruity environmentalists can go save a tree or go stop global warming if thats what you believe!!
sIzivCJ9pzU&feature=related

rawesome

01/19/10, 02:40 PM

That's fucking stupid and makes me not want to have kids.

Jason Tate

01/19/10, 02:41 PM

fine by me im a fellow texan and i love it here all you California tree huggin fruity environmentalists can go save a tree or go stop global warming if thats what you believe!!
:-|

GeeBee

01/19/10, 02:43 PM

fine by me im a fellow texan and i love it here all you California tree huggin fruity environmentalists can go save a tree or go stop global warming if thats what you believe!!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/pajoyner/SarahPalin.jpg

WTF?

Ben09

01/19/10, 02:44 PM

I love Texas.

J.C.

01/19/10, 02:58 PM

I've always had a great respect for people who grew up in Texas and managed to turn out sane. I feel like they overcame overwhelming odds.

Machu505

01/19/10, 04:19 PM

My niece has lived in Texas her entire life. She didn't know what state George W. Bush is from or where South Carolina is. She and I are the same age.

J.C.

01/19/10, 04:21 PM

My niece has lived in Texas her entire life. She didn't know what state George W. Bush is from or where South Carolina is. She and I are the same age.

http://nathanielstern.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/connecticut-wecomes-you.jpeg

JordanBuell

01/19/10, 04:25 PM

I love Texas.

im sorry to hear that.

bard

01/19/10, 04:40 PM

texas is a cool place if you're not a moron

rawesome

01/19/10, 04:40 PM

texas is a cool place if you're not a moron
Why?

Machu505

01/19/10, 04:43 PM

Texas didn't impress me, but all I've seen is Dallas and San Antonio.

Ben09

01/19/10, 04:53 PM

im sorry to hear that.

Don't be sorry. It's better than where you are.

bard

01/19/10, 04:55 PM

Why?
because it's like any other place. there are some cool places/people/etc... as well as crappy places/people/etc....

Jake Gyllenhaal

01/19/10, 04:56 PM

http://nathanielstern.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/connecticut-wecomes-you.jpeg

Don't forget Bush was educated in liberal states... Yale and Harvard.

Jason Tate

01/19/10, 04:58 PM

Don't forget Bush was educated in liberal states... Yale and Harvard.
"Educated"

rawesome

01/19/10, 05:14 PM

because it's like any other place. there are some cool places/people/etc... as well as crappy places/people/etc....
What does being a moron have to do with one's appreciation level of Texas?

rawesome

01/19/10, 05:15 PM

Implying that Bush didn't get into those schools because of who his father was.
It's what you do with an education that matters.

Simulcast

01/19/10, 05:16 PM

"Educated"

Well, they were liberal universities.

rawesome

01/19/10, 05:16 PM

Also, a state is a body of land. It can't have a political affiliation.

JordanBuell

01/19/10, 05:18 PM

Don't forget Bush was educated in liberal states... Yale and Harvard.

crazy how obscene amounts of money can get you into such prestigious universities....

Simulcast

01/19/10, 05:18 PM

Also, a state is a body of land. It can't have a political affiliation.

I made it more clear, however I'm pretty sure states have been labeled either "red" or "blue" in the past...

rawesome

01/19/10, 05:19 PM

I made it more clear, however I'm pretty sure states have been labeled either "red" or "blue" in the past...
What does that have to do with anything concerning Bush's education?

Simulcast

01/19/10, 05:20 PM

What does that have to do with anything concerning Bush's education?

It was a joke.

Jason Tate

01/19/10, 05:20 PM

Well, they were liberal universities.
Thanks Einstein. Sure changes everything.

rawesome

01/19/10, 05:20 PM

It was a joke.
LOL!

Simulcast

01/19/10, 05:20 PM

Thanks Einstein.

It was a joke.

JordanBuell

01/19/10, 05:26 PM

Don't be sorry. It's better than where you are.

thats possible....but i would never want to live in a place that has such crazy politicians and allows such stupid things (like the link that was posted) happen without the public even batting an eye

Ben09

01/19/10, 05:36 PM

thats possible....but i would never want to live in a place that has such crazy politicians and allows such stupid things (like the link that was posted) happen without the public even batting an eye

http://www.thehotjoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/spitzer-5.jpg

JordanBuell

01/19/10, 05:45 PM

http://www.thehotjoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/spitzer-5.jpg

do you honestly want me to post a picture of GEORGE GODDAMN BUSH?! i mean really. every state has their own political fuck up but come on dude....

rawesome

01/19/10, 05:50 PM

do you honestly want me to post a picture of GEORGE GODDAMN BUSH?! i mean really. every state has their own political fuck up but come on dude....
I obviously don't really follow New York state politics but wasn't this guy actually a pretty good governor up until that scandal? I could be wrong, though.

JordanBuell

01/19/10, 05:57 PM

I obviously don't really follow New York state politics but wasn't this guy actually a pretty good governor up until that scandal? I could be wrong, though.

yeah he wasn't bad. defiantly a lot better when comparing him too david paterson

GeeBee

01/19/10, 06:14 PM

http://www.thehotjoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/spitzer-5.jpg

His problems were personal. He was damn good at what he did. Try again.

FueledByFrodo

01/19/10, 07:06 PM

http://nathanielstern.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/connecticut-wecomes-you.jpeg
Best sign ever.

Machu505

01/19/10, 07:15 PM

I'd love to see Elliot Spitzer back in politics, personally.

caveBEAR

01/19/10, 07:28 PM

I drove through Texas on the way to a short tour in Cali. All I remember were signs that said 'Litterin' Is UnlAWFUL'. It made me drive a little faster...

nerdvglc

01/19/10, 08:10 PM

yeah, this sucks. i have come to enjoy my life in texas, and justifying it as well, by telling myself everywhere has its problems, and atleast we have a pretty sweet economy and i'm stuck for a few more years, so i'll make the best of it. i love texas for a lot of reasons, but it can be pretty fucked up sometimes.

Bobmoko

01/19/10, 08:36 PM

yeah california has some seriously smart people over there http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/26/california-may-ban-black-cars/

bladerdude360

01/19/10, 08:48 PM

That's not good at all. I'm actually about to read one of Krugman's textbooks for my microeconomics class, so this is sort of timely. I read his op-eds for a Poli-Sci course back in high school, from what I remember I like his ideas and his writing.

xshady121

01/19/10, 09:06 PM

I thought this would be about that new show My Life As Liz.

J.C.

01/19/10, 09:10 PM

I thought this would be about that new show My Life As Liz.

I def. got a major crush on liz.

xshady121

01/19/10, 09:12 PM

I def. got a major crush on liz.

That show was just a really shitty version of Juno.

Is it supposed to be real? It's scripted right?

I'm confused.

acemvivere

01/19/10, 09:20 PM

Tragic.

J.C.

01/19/10, 09:21 PM

That show was just a really shitty version of Juno.

Is it supposed to be real? It's scripted right?

I'm confused.

I only saw one episode and it was pretty clearly fake/scripted.

xshady121

01/19/10, 09:23 PM

I only saw one episode and it was pretty clearly fake/scripted.

You can never tell with these damned MTV shows.

Scrandon

01/19/10, 09:44 PM

You can never tell with these damned MTV shows.

Its probably more real than Jersey Shore...

xshady121

01/19/10, 09:46 PM

Its probably more real than Jersey Shore...

Woah woah WOAH. Where do you get off trash talking jersey shore? who the hell do you think you are?!?

That show is RIDICULOUS! It's real world on STEROIDS! Oh hey, a bad pun.

Scrandon

01/19/10, 09:49 PM

Woah woah WOAH. Where do you get off trash talking jersey shore? who the hell do you think you are?!?

That show is RIDICULOUS! It's real world on STEROIDS! Oh hey, a bad pun.

Every episode is the same, they go to the club, get wasted, fist pump, and get in a fight. and 'creep on girls'

xshady121

01/19/10, 09:50 PM

Every episode is the same, they go to the club, get wasted, fist pump, and get in a fight. and 'creep on girls'

I think you just can't handle the situation.

Scrandon

01/19/10, 09:51 PM

LMFAO! thank you for that

x togepi x

01/20/10, 02:02 AM

liz is so fucking annoying. I USED TO BE A PREP NOW I'M VAGUELY PUNK RAWR RAWR RAWR

also, didn't you guys know that Texas has been fucking with our school books for awhile? one of the things the conservative movement has been really good at is getting its agenda pushed in school. some of the shit i learned in school was ridiculous, i even had a teacher spend most of the time referring to the civil war as the war of northern aggression. lol

kwsqd

01/20/10, 06:31 AM

yeah california has some seriously smart people over there http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/26/california-may-ban-black-cars/
what the fuck is wrong with people?

liz is so fucking annoying. I USED TO BE A PREP NOW I'M VAGUELY PUNK RAWR RAWR RAWR

also, didn't you guys know that Texas has been fucking with our school books for awhile? one of the things the conservative movement has been really good at is getting its agenda pushed in school. some of the shit i learned in school was ridiculous, i even had a teacher spend most of the time referring to the civil war as the war of northern aggression. lol
sounds pretty accurate to me, those northern bastards

Ben09

01/20/10, 07:30 PM

x togepi x

01/21/10, 12:07 PM

[/b]
Sounds like you just had shit teachers.

I did, but to deny that textbooks carry a largely conservative bias because of Texas is kind of ridiculous.

Dunn.Nope

01/22/10, 10:25 PM

http://www.thewoodlandsteaparty.com/2010/01/15/teaching-american-history-unconstitutional-according-to-baptist-prof-derek-davis-baylor-univ/

you guys should read this. I go to a Baptist university and our Humanities Dean spoke against this ridiculous changes for the textbooks in the Houston Chronicle and this guy tries to crucify him. our president and school are getting so much hate mail now, calling Dr. Davis a "homosexual," "communist," and "satanist." so much hatred by Christians in this world for such asinine reasons.

Jake Denning

02/09/10, 02:26 AM

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1poqGfVao39vnOWZbq9DVN3_gFyWaMJfeE r31tpR01x4E62H8egUqR22lwTj1driYcQ4Z q56hfw-W4KUhoU9jxqg/unknown.jpg

caveBEAR

02/09/10, 08:32 AM

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1poqGfVao39vnOWZbq9DVN3_gFyWaMJfeE r31tpR01x4E62H8egUqR22lwTj1driYcQ4Z q56hfw-W4KUhoU9jxqg/unknown.jpg

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, noooope.

Machu505

02/09/10, 08:33 AM

Nope.

GeeBee

02/09/10, 08:51 AM

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1poqGfVao39vnOWZbq9DVN3_gFyWaMJfeE r31tpR01x4E62H8egUqR22lwTj1driYcQ4Z q56hfw-W4KUhoU9jxqg/unknown.jpg

I sure do. Now that our freedoms have been taken away and an illegal immigrant is running my country into socialism. If only we could go back...

caveBEAR

02/09/10, 08:59 AM

I sure do. Now that our freedoms have been taken away and an illegal immigrant is running my country into socialism. If only we could go back...

And we've only pre-emptively invaded, what? ZERO countries?

I'M BORED!

Jason Tate

02/09/10, 09:01 AM

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1poqGfVao39vnOWZbq9DVN3_gFyWaMJfeE r31tpR01x4E62H8egUqR22lwTj1driYcQ4Z q56hfw-W4KUhoU9jxqg/unknown.jpg
If anyone is thinking "yes" - they should be checked into a hospital.

GeeBee

02/09/10, 09:13 AM

And we've only pre-emptively invaded, what? ZERO countries?

I'M BORED!

Plus, Angela Merkel's shoulders are stiff again...and WHO OH WHO is going to massage them NOW?

caveBEAR

02/09/10, 09:17 AM

Plus, Angela Merkel's shoulders are stiff again...and WHO OH WHO is going to massage them NOW?

Not Saddam Hussein Obama, that's for damn sure!

Jake Denning

02/09/10, 05:29 PM

If anyone is thinking "yes" - they should be checked into a hospital.

this may or may not be on I-5 N or S coming to and from Corvallis to Portland. I'm not too sure.

Machu505

02/09/10, 06:35 PM

I thought it was in Minnesota?

GeeBee

02/09/10, 06:40 PM

I thought it was in Minnesota?

Tomato, Tomaaato, amirite?

cantnokdahustle

02/10/10, 10:09 AM

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/texas-textbooks/?src=twr

Thanks, just incorporated this into my Ideology and Curriculum paper.

Also, if you kids want a good read on the" text-book wars," pick up the The Great Speckled Bird: Politics and Education Policymaking.

Furthermore, all of the other states should truly stop following the leaders (Texas and California), when it comes to selecting textbooks, truly.

aoftbsten

02/10/10, 12:44 PM

Can Texas please just secede from the union?

Machu505

02/10/10, 12:46 PM

Tomato, Tomaaato, amirite?

Wyoming, MN is the precise location.

GeeBee

02/10/10, 12:50 PM

Wyoming, MN is the precise location.

I didn't even know Wyoming even HAD a Minnesotas.

Zieb

02/10/10, 04:24 PM

Really? That sign is in my state?? I need a ladder and some spray paint.

jenkkem

02/13/10, 11:58 AM

no you didnt

GeeBee

02/13/10, 12:10 PM

no you didnt
ban this fucking troll

catherinexhimel

02/22/10, 06:11 AM

1/3 of students drop out of school in Texas... we're such an amazing state. :)

caveBEAR

02/22/10, 06:17 AM

1/3 of students drop out of school in Texas... we're such an amazing state. :)

Doesn't matter. If you're not going to finish college or a trade school, you might as well drop out in middle school.

catherinexhimel

02/22/10, 01:26 PM

Doesn't matter. If you're not going to finish college or a trade school, you might as well drop out in middle school.

But at least we try.

caveBEAR

02/22/10, 06:30 PM

But at least we try.

Hmmm, 'at least I tried' doesn't really cut it on job application's "High School" line.

Alou

02/22/10, 07:21 PM

Hmmm, 'at least I tried' doesn't really cut it on job application's "High School" line.

It does for the fast food industry?

caveBEAR

02/22/10, 07:31 PM

It does for the fast food industry?

:mellow:

Jake Gyllenhaal

02/22/10, 07:36 PM

It does for the fast food industry?

:-|

Machu505

02/22/10, 07:54 PM

It does for the fast food industry?

X-)

caveBEAR

02/22/10, 08:06 PM

:mellow:

:-|

Dream big.

Machu...:-|

What say you?

Machu505

02/22/10, 08:07 PM

Machu...:-|

What say you?

Better? Asshole.

caveBEAR

02/22/10, 08:09 PM

Better? Asshole.

:-( I like 3's...

andrewddrum

02/22/10, 09:02 PM

america

Wake Up

02/22/10, 09:05 PM

I hate Texas. My father is from Texas.

Alou

02/22/10, 10:42 PM

:mellow:

:-|

X-)

:)

Lueda Alia

03/19/10, 04:59 AM

I remember a discussion about this a while ago but I can't search for the thread because I don't remember the title or anything.

Anyway, please, someone tell me this is not real life.

AUSTIN, Tex. — After three days of turbulent meetings, the Texas Board of Education on Friday approved a social studies curriculum that will put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks (http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/textbooks/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier), stressing the superiority of American capitalism, questioning the Founding Fathers’ commitment to a purely secular government and presenting Republican political philosophies in a more positive light.

Read more (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html).

Mibabalou

03/19/10, 05:09 AM

wtf

Praetor

03/19/10, 05:11 AM

And Hours Pass

03/19/10, 06:30 AM

I didn't read your link, but I have heard about this ongoing battle with the Texas BoE and sane people, and I actually agree with some of the changes. I think it's important to examine inflation and its effect on the American dollar. But teaching it and getting rid of Keynesian economics...that's not a good thing. That's pretty much all I agree with, too. I remember hearing of a few other changes that they were either considering, like trying to justify McCarthyism. Ridiculous.
Stressing superiority of American capitalism and discussing the economic effects of inflation on the American dollar are vastly different. These changes are not a good thing. They are solely in effect to combat this existing notion that future generations aren't American enough because they question governmental and social norms and constructs. It's ridiculous.

Praetor

03/19/10, 06:49 AM

Stressing superiority of American capitalism and discussing the economic effects of inflation on the American dollar are vastly different. These changes are not a good thing. They are solely in effect to combat this existing notion that future generations aren't American enough because they question governmental and social norms and constructs. It's ridiculous.
I wasn't referring to just what was contained in the article. I was referring to all the changes they are contemplating, one of them being inflation's effect on the US dollar. I think teaching that is a good thing.

SpacePunk

03/19/10, 07:15 AM

greenteaallday

03/19/10, 07:41 AM

I don't see how this is any worse than Al Gore's horror movie getting forced upon pupils throughout the Western world.

History is always written by the winners. These guys got the vote... other people should just accept it... especially when it doesn't even concern them.

There is a big difference between a movie and a textbook. Also, I don't know about you but i wasn't "indoctrinated" with global warming or "An Inconvenient Truth" whatsoever in school.

Plus it pretty much affects most of the country because text book companies basically conform to Texas's standards since they have the largest amount of school children. So it concerns most of the country's students and parents.

xshady121

03/19/10, 07:45 AM

the title was "and we need antoher reason to hate texas?!?" and it was originally created by jason.

Lueda Alia

03/19/10, 07:51 AM

the title was "and we need antoher reason to hate texas?!?" and it was originally created by jason.
Just merged them.

Going to edit the first post now.

And Hours Pass

03/19/10, 09:04 AM

I wasn't referring to just what was contained in the article. I was referring to all the changes they are contemplating, one of them being inflation's effect on the US dollar. I think teaching that is a good thing.
I agree. However, they taught that in my high school so I don't really view that as a wide-reaching change in education.

TxRepresent

03/19/10, 09:15 AM

Please don't group everyone in this state together with these morons. That's about as naive as saying everyone in Oregon beats their wife like Aaron Maldonado did, or that everyone is a meth addict.