State of the Union, 2010

[Machu505]

Is tonight at 9 EST. Discuss.

[Jason Tate]

If he uses the words "spending freeze" - I hope he gets booed.

[Mitch]

Not happy that I won't be able to watch it live.

[saysmydoctor]

I haven't even heard or read it yet, but the news is telling me it's a disappointment so it must be true because it's the news, right?

[saysmydoctor]

Seems appropriate here, because regardless of Jason's wishes, it will probably be brought up:

Freeze the Defense budget: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/the_defense_budget_should_be_f.html

[xshady121]

I plan on doing the Huffington Post drinking game during it.

[loveisdead]

I plan on doing the Huffington Post drinking game during it.
You'd die. I was reading it last night and there's no way anyone could survive it.

[kofiadrian]

I plan on doing the Huffington Post drinking game during it.


what's the huffington post drinking game?

[rawesome]

Going to YouTube it tomorrow, as I have a lot of work to do tonight.

[bacon06]

Get your bingo cards ready:

http://townhall.com/blog/g/ee84bedc-c933-4516-af72-14e6314c082e

[loveisdead]

what's the huffington post drinking game?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/state-of-the-union-drinki_n_436932.html

[troubledbyinsects]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/state-of-the-union-drinki_n_436932.html
hhahahaha

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

Obama says "jobs" ----- Do one shot, two if you're unemployed

Ya Anthony you are fucked

[loveisdead]

Ya Anthony you are fucked
what does a part time job mean?

Edit: haha, party time job. I suck.

[wrppdarndyrfngr]

what does a party time job mean?

1 and a half shots?

[saysmydoctor]

Who's watching McDonnell afterwards?

[J.C.]

Obama's going to play the DADT card tonight apparently.

[saysmydoctor]

If Obama is playing the DADT card tonight, you can expect to see a lot more Kirsten Gillibrand after tonight then considering she has been the one leading the charge to repeal it (at least in the Senate).

[Jason Tate]

Good.

[saysmydoctor]

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/the-speech-his-life-again
My opinion: this speech is pretty much for Democrats only. The progressives think he has lost track, the centrists want him to think about them. He does have to walk a fine line and regain their confidence.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

If he uses the words "spending freeze" - I hope he gets booed.
Agreed. The rest I hear about it is promising. Though I'd like to see an actual delivery on it. A common tale with this admin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/state-of-the-union-drinki_n_436932.html
Hahaha, I would so do this if I had the liquor.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/the-speech-his-life-again
My opinion: this speech is pretty much for Democrats only. The progressives think he has lost track, the centrists want him to think about them. He does have to walk a fine line and regain their confidence.
Good article. He needs to show he has a pair.

[Jason Tate]

Should be interesting.

[open mind]

the world of politics has been a real downer for me as of late.....i'm sure obama will give a passable or even great speech but speeches alone don't get us out of iraq and afghanistan, put wall street back in it's place, build a green infrastructure, renegotiate free trade agreements, balance the budget, end the war on drugs, put as much money into our schools as we do prisons, and heal the sick.

[Mitch]

Gonna have to watch it on Youtube (won't be around until 9:30). Hopefully it'll be up soon after it airs.

[saysmydoctor]

To add to the Huff Po drinking game, take a shot every time Lindsey Graham almost claps.

[saysmydoctor]

RAY LAHOOD, I SEE YOUR HUGE FACE
x

[Protested Hero]

Obama looks kinda green on CNN. Hulking out?

[aoftbsten]

I've never seen anyone clap for this long.

[loveisdead]

I think Biden is hitting the booze again.

[saysmydoctor]

Obama is making funnies.

[loveisdead]

He's great in this setting. He's such a likable dude.

[Machu505]

The Supreme Court does not applaud.

[saysmydoctor]

SCOTUS are getting root canals currently.

[loveisdead]

SCOTUS are getting root canals currently.

:lol:

[J.C.]

Republicans no longer in favor of tax cuts.

[saysmydoctor]

Republicans no longer in favor of tax cuts.
All a bunch of flippy floppies.

[loveisdead]

Republicans no longer in favor of tax cuts.

You noticed that too?

[Machu505]

Chuck Grassley has a sweet vest.

[saysmydoctor]

Republicans in Washington: down with stimulus.
In their districts: Hey, look what pork I brought back. Stimulus sucks though.


WHA?

[loveisdead]

All a bunch of flippy floppies.

I got my swim trunks.

[loveisdead]

There's pelosi with the signature jump out of her chair. First time I saw that tonight.

[macabre]

They finally stand up

[loveisdead]

I love how often CNN has shown Geithner.

[saysmydoctor]

Pelosi will eventually stand up so fast, she will fall over that little balcony thing into the President's arms.

Thus making Obama even dreamier for catching the lady.

[J.C.]

Need a .gif of Cantor shaking his head.

[Until The Bombs]

That one republican dude looks like he should be the bad guy in the next Bond film.

[loveisdead]

And there we have it.

[wroteurname]

John Boehner looks pissedddddd

[saysmydoctor]

I want to punch Boehner in his smug, tanned face.

[loveisdead]

I want to punch Boehner in his smug, tanned face.

I'll support this.

[J.C.]

That one republican dude looks like he should be the bad guy in the next Bond film.

Boehner?

'Orangefinger'.

[wroteurname]

I love seeing the few brightly colored blazers out in the sea of suits.

[loveisdead]

Boehner?

'Orangefinger'.

Bahhhhhahahahaahaahaha

[wroteurname]

Boehner?

'Orangefinger'.

lololol, I hope Obama can get me out of this bad mood the Huskies put me in.

[loveisdead]

lololol, I hope Obama can get me out of this bad mood the Huskies put me in.

It's been a damn good speech so far.

[Until The Bombs]

Wonder if Obama about to drop a bomb or if he just rambling on.

[wroteurname]

It's been a damn good speech so far.

It really has, "we're number 1 we're number 1" has that ever been chanted at a State of the Union?

[SunnyInPhilly]

It's been a damn good speech so far.

Uh huh. Who exactly told Obama to put our biggest problems on hold and not address them? I'd love to know that.

[saysmydoctor]

Uh huh. Who exactly told Obama to put our biggest problems on hold and not address them? I'd love to know that.
It's been brought up by a lot of pundits, saying he should have waited on healthcare reform. Someone isn't pay attention.

[J.C.]

Uh huh. Who exactly told Obama to put our biggest problems on hold and not address them? I'd love to know that.

I wasn't aware Obama had been President since the 60s.

[saysmydoctor]

Listen to him appeasing Republicans with their shitty energy "solutions."

[wroteurname]

Pelosi just had a HILARIOUS stand up.

[Until The Bombs]

Uh huh. Who exactly told Obama to put our biggest problems on hold and not address them? I'd love to know that.

The republicans who've tried to stop any real healthcare reform. But the list goes on and on over years and years.

[Healthy Scratch]

It's been brought up by a lot of pundits, saying he should have waited on healthcare reform. Someone isn't pay attention.
i wasn't aware that healthcare reform was our biggest problem.

[Until The Bombs]

Nice to see everyone applauding real energy reform, too bad nothing substantial will be passed.

[saysmydoctor]

i wasn't aware that healthcare reform was our biggest problem.
Then you haven't been paying attention.

Last I checked, if you're dead, you can't produce. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[aloneatlastnj]

i hate that people fucking boo science and logic and reason. the rampant anti-intellecutalism in the US scares the SHIT out of me.

[QuikTrig]

It's been a damn good speech so far.
sounds like all his pre-election speeches. blahblahblah, we will, we will, we will. he is still avoiding hows and specifics. he may be getting there, hopefully.

[Until The Bombs]

i wasn't aware that healthcare reform was our biggest problem.

Biggest problems. And not being aware makes you a fucking idiot.

[SunnyInPhilly]

The republicans who've tried to stop any real healthcare reform. But the list goes on and on over years and years.

Not agreeing with his version of healthcare is in no way the same as telling him not to address it.

[loveisdead]

sounds like all his pre-election speeches. blahblahblah, we will, we will, we will. he is still avoiding hows and specifics. he may be getting there, hopefully.

I agree to an extent. Though he has mentioned some specifics.

[aloneatlastnj]

sounds like all his pre-election speeches. blahblahblah, we will, we will, we will. he is still avoiding hows and specifics. he may be getting there, hopefully.

isn't the state of the union more about ideas rather than specific plans?

[saysmydoctor]

isn't the state of the union more about ideas rather than specific plans?
Someone who understands the nature of the speech, thank you!

[caveBEAR]

'We need to educate our people'


::sporadic applause::
::crickets::

[Under The Knife]

Hopefully the State of the Union is better than the Apple iPad.

[saysmydoctor]

http://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/8305937149

HHAHAHAHAHAHA GOT 'EM

[dpatrickguy]

sounds like all his pre-election speeches. blahblahblah, we will, we will, we will. he is still avoiding hows and specifics. he may be getting there, hopefully.

State of the Union addresses usually don't go too deeply into specifics. Its supposed to just give an agenda and overview. That being said I am very curious to see how he plans on doing a lot of this stuff.

[Until The Bombs]

Not agreeing with his version of healthcare is in no way the same as telling him not to address it.

Not supporting his/Dems' major proposals just for the sake of hurting his chances of getting re-elected in 2016 is not the same as not agreeing.

[wroteurname]

Loving the talk of expanding education considering I'll be heading out into the teacher job market in a year.

[Jason Tate]

isn't the state of the union more about ideas rather than specific plans?

Yes.

[aloneatlastnj]

Someone who understands the nature of the speech, thank you!

:wave:

[loveisdead]

Loving the talk of expanding education considering I'll be heading out into the teacher job market in a year.

Good luck man. I seriously admire everyone who wants to become/is a teacher.

[Healthy Scratch]

Biggest problems. And not being aware makes you a fucking idiot.
hey i can call you names too! fucking idiot.

[caveBEAR]

Hopefully the State of the Union is better than the Apple iPad.

Anyone else hear that sad 'whah whah whaaaaahhh' sound effect in their head after reading this, too?

[QuikTrig]

Someone who understands the nature of the speech, thank you!

are there rules or guidelines to this? i'm not being a dick, i really didn't know. i wasn't aware there was a specific nature to the state of the union.

[saysmydoctor]

You shouldn't be laughing if you are being told that you are doing a shitty job handling the healthcare debate.

He is MOCKING you, not applauding your efforts.

[wroteurname]

Good luck man. I seriously admire everyone who wants to/is a teacher.

:book:

[saysmydoctor]

are there rules or guidelines to this? i'm not being a dick, i really didn't know.
There is only a historical track record to go by.

[wroteurname]

Michelle Obama, more like MILFchelle Obama.

[loveisdead]

You shouldn't be laughing if you are being told that you are doing a shitty job handling the healthcare debate.

He is MOCKING you, not applauding your efforts.

He did it in a way that was meant to get a laugh.

[saysmydoctor]

He did it in a way that was meant to get a laugh.
It's not funny. Remotely. It wasn't funny. It's fucking depressing.

[loveisdead]

Anyone else hear that sad 'whah whah whaaaaahhh' sound effect in their head after reading this, too?

Nah. I read pretty decent things about the ipad.

[Under The Knife]

Michelle Obama, more like MILFchelle Obama.

:puke:

[loveisdead]

It's not funny. Remotely. It wasn't funny. It's fucking depressing.

I agree but he didn't go about that statement in a way that said "get your acts together."

[caveBEAR]

Nah. I read pretty decent things about the ipad.

Exactly. I meant more towards Tyler for having such a 3rd grade comment.

[Jason Tate]

Nah. I read pretty decent things about the ipad.

Then youre reading the wrong sites. ;)

[loveisdead]

It's not funny. Remotely. It wasn't funny. It's fucking depressing.

There he goes. That was needed.

[Mitch]

Just started watching it. So fucking frustrated that I missed the majority of it. I literally ran back to my apartment haha.

[SunnyInPhilly]

Not supporting his/Dems' major proposals just for the sake of hurting his chances of getting re-elected in 2016 is not the same as not agreeing.

He didn't need their support. That's what a filibuster-proof majority is.

[J.C.]

RT @BarackObama OMG, totally addressing Congress. LOL Mitch McConnell looks like a turtle.

[caveBEAR]

Good for him for finally saying that shit.

[wroteurname]

:puke:

racist

[loveisdead]

Good for him for finally saying that shit.

Best part of the speech.

[caveBEAR]

racist

Assumer.

[Jason Tate]

He didn't need their support. That's what a filibuster-proof majority is.

And everyone always votes party lines ... Right?

Dumb.

[loveisdead]

No no no please don't say spending freeze

edit: fucker.

[Under The Knife]

racist

She's ugly. I've seen better looking women in Haiti.

[saysmydoctor]

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

[Until The Bombs]

He didn't need their support. That's what a filibuster-proof majority is.

Dem's don't act like a flock of sheep, unlike Republicans. So of course you had some Dems who didn't agree.

[loveisdead]

She's ugly. I've seen better looking women in Haiti.

I'm sorry what the fuck are you trying to say?

[caveBEAR]

Good to see him at least appearing proactive. He's just seemed so reactionary to me recently.

[Jason Tate]

Ahahhaha. Suck it. Executive order.

[macabre]

Republicans opposed to PAYGO? WTF?

[saysmydoctor]

The Republicans literally just fucking laughed.

So much for that whole gentlemen claim, right, Congressman Wilson?

[caveBEAR]

'That's how budgeting works'
HA HA HA HA HA

[wroteurname]

The freeze is risky, just have to hope it won't be too risky when the time comes to enact it.

[xshady121]

Dem's don't act like a flock of sheep, unlike Republicans. So of course you had some Dems who didn't agree.

Oh I'm sorry

I must have missed the unilateral republican support of Bush's Social Security Reform.

Oh, wait.

[Until The Bombs]

I would pay to see Obama perform standup.

[J.C.]

Shot across the bow.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

This speech was good until he started talking about freezing. Don't be so certain Barry.

[loveisdead]

Wow. Saw a few republicans clapping over that 8 year comment.

[dpatrickguy]

Obama is is slinging zingers all over the place

[Until The Bombs]

Oh I'm sorry

I must have missed the unilateral republican support of Bush's Social Security Reform.

Oh, wait.

Oh I'm sorry.

I must have missed the fact that it was 2005.

Oh, wait.

[caveBEAR]

God damn, look at these wide shots when either the Democrats or Republicans are standing. The Democrats look like different people, the Republicans look like that stereotypical group of white men in suits, ha ha ha ha ha.

[saysmydoctor]

Sounds like the Congress doesn't like that lobbyist speak. Hahaha.

[loveisdead]

God damn, look at these wide shots when either the Democrats or Republicans are standing. The Democrats look like different people, the Republicans look like that stereotypical group of white men in suits, ha ha ha ha ha.

It's so true.

[caveBEAR]

Who was mumbling against lobbyists being in groups?

[Jason Tate]

God damn, look at these wide shots when either the Democrats or Republicans are standing. The Democrats look like different people, the Republicans look like that stereotypical group of white men in suits, ha ha ha ha ha.

Hahahahah.

[Until The Bombs]

God damn, look at these wide shots when either the Democrats or Republicans are standing. The Democrats look like different people, the Republicans look like that stereotypical group of white men in suits, ha ha ha ha ha.

Too be fair, even when the parties haven't been as divided as they are now, you still saw a fair bit of polar opposite reactions.

[caveBEAR]

I think 3 of the Justices are dead.

[J.C.]

The Supreme Court is getting the stinkeye.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

That was an interesting image.

[loveisdead]

Preach it Barry. Right in SCOTUS's faces.

[wroteurname]

God damn, look at these wide shots when either the Democrats or Republicans are standing. The Democrats look like different people, the Republicans look like that stereotypical group of white men in suits, ha ha ha ha ha.

Seriously, it looks like a political cartoon from the 60s or something, or a Chapelle show skit.

[Jason Tate]

Preach it Barry. Right in SCOTUS's faces.

A few are still asleep.

[saysmydoctor]

Whoever that dude (whose name has slipped my mind, not Kennedy....) is sitting next to Sotomayor was talking some nonsense. Wonder what it was.

[loveisdead]

A few are still asleep.

Seriously. Some of them really look awful.

[saysmydoctor]

Senator Nelson, you just got called out.

[xshady121]

Funny that the dems are applauding that confirmation bit.

They must have short term memory.

[caveBEAR]

This is such a nice change from Bush's speeches. I like that Obama is taking the time to teach the assembly how to act like decent humans.

[Under The Knife]

More people would watch the State of the Union Address if President Obama introduced a new gadget at the end. Just saying.

[saysmydoctor]

This is such a nice change from Bush's speeches. I like that Obama is taking the time to teach the assembly how to act like decent humans.
Personally am not scared enough so the speech is a failure.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Fuck yes.

[Until The Bombs]

Oh shit son!

[J.C.]

Barry bringin' the lumber.

[caveBEAR]

Personally am not scared enough so the speech is a failure.

Right? This is why I like Obama. Even if nothing gets done all four years, the tone has at least changed.

[loveisdead]

:appl:

[Jason Tate]

And that deserves a clap.

:appl:

[WarpSpeedChewy]

A few are still asleep.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg looked high as hell. Like the kind of "she looks dead" high.

[saysmydoctor]

Mitch McConnell, you just got put on notice.

[Mitch]

Loved the smug Repub smiles.

[saysmydoctor]

Ruth Bader Ginsburg looked high as hell. Like the kind of "she looks dead" high.
Probably because she's next to retire anyway.

[xshady121]

Janet Napolitano has upstaged pelosi for most outrageous clap.

[dpatrickguy]

God damn, look at these wide shots when either the Democrats or Republicans are standing. The Democrats look like different people, the Republicans look like that stereotypical group of white men in suits, ha ha ha ha ha.

The two symbols of the Republican Party: An elephant and a fat white man who fears change

[caveBEAR]

God, even if you think he's full of shit, how can you be against the things the man is saying? Like, how can you see 'working together' as a bad thing. It's like a fucking Barney episode.

[J.C.]

WHY DOESN'T HE USE THE WORD TERRORIST

Oh, he just did.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Probably because she's next to retire anyway.
She looked more like snoopy than Liebermann.

[wroteurname]

Biden is sexting.

[UnderMyDreams]

Did everyone but the military advisors in the front just clap when he said he wanted to end the war? Wtf?

[saysmydoctor]

Janet Napolitano has upstaged pelosi for most outrageous clap.
If anybody could do it, she definitely could.

[caveBEAR]

Biden is sexting.

:lol:

[Jason Tate]

Bust out DADT. Do it. Come on.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Biden is sexting.
He has the greatest smile. It's like he's constantly reminding himself of a great joke.

[saysmydoctor]

Biden and Pelosi are so in sync, they are wearing each other's underwear.

[Thriftstoresuit]

WHY DOESN'T HE USE THE WORD TERRORIST

Oh, he just did.

clearly not enough though

[caveBEAR]

He has the greatest smile. It's like he's constantly reminding himself of a great joke.

Ha ha ha ha, that is the best way to describe it.

[wroteurname]

he's doing it again!

[wroteurname]

I DON'T think we'll secure all the nuclear weapons in the world.

[loveisdead]

I DON'T think we'll secure all the nuclear weapons in the world.

Seriously

[caveBEAR]

Ha ha ha ha, he's basically saying 'look what gets done when you're not a dick'.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

I really like the fact the Pres. is making nuclear deterrance an issue. It's the most underreported foreign policy issue. I think it's one of the more important foreign policy issues.

[aloneatlastnj]

could this be it (DADT repeal)?


EDIT: there it is.

[JTMcKrackles]

I love how Biden just winked. At least it looked like he did.

[saysmydoctor]

Pelosi's legs are tired, please no more standing ovations.

[caveBEAR]

The generals look onboard...

[loveisdead]

Love it. Glad he said that.

[Jason Tate]

:appl:

[saysmydoctor]

Joint Chiefs looking stern. Fuck you, Commandant Conway, you homophobic fuck. Retire. RETIRE.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

About fucking time. Hell yes.

[wroteurname]

This is the first time I can remember not being like "wtf the state of the union is still on?!?!?! I wanna watch something else!?!?"

[JTMcKrackles]

The generals look onboard...

They're just too manly.

[xshady121]

Not watching. New Psych is on.

Anyone want to sum up what he said about DADT? Executive order by chance?

[caveBEAR]

Anyone else feel like this part is the climatic speech at the end of a (President) Morgan Freeman movie?

[saysmydoctor]

Not watching. New Psych is on.

Anyone want to sum up what he said about DADT? Executive order by chance?
Can't use an Executive Order, DADT is in UCMJ, only can changed by the Senate.

Here's the bill though: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1283/show

[Mitch]

was that cantor with a "this is boring as hell" face and a slanted head?

edit: nvm, that was every repub in the audience

[Jason Tate]

This was the best part of his speech.

Will congress listen? Doubt it.

[saysmydoctor]

This was the best part of his speech.

Will congress listen? Doubt it.
Basically.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

This part of the speech is packed with honesty. Reminded me of a "You have to make me" type of FDR moment a little bit.

[dpatrickguy]

This was the best part of his speech.

Will congress listen? Doubt it.

They can't hear with their heads up their asses

[caveBEAR]

I feel like even if Obama isn't able to do everything he promises, he genuinely wants to do it.

[GeeBee]

clearly not enough though

Psshh...yeah. If there's one word that gets bandied about FAR TOO RARELY in the U.S., it's the word "terrorist".

[QuikTrig]

I feel like even if Obama isn't able to do everything he promises, he genuinely wants to do it.

means nothing to me.

[saysmydoctor]

Okkkkkk, I'm not sure how I feel about this SOTU.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Good speech minus the freezing aspech. He hit alot of the right spots.

[saysmydoctor]

means nothing to me.
Yup, it's too bad the US isn't a democracy.

[caveBEAR]

means nothing to me.

Cool story, bro.

[caveBEAR]

Okkkkkk, I'm not sure how I feel about this SOTU.

How so?

[Until The Bombs]

Favorite part: basically telling the republicans, "you don't want to support my ideas? Fine, come up with your own."

[saysmydoctor]

Not a lot of policy talk, but he needed to address the political bullshit.

[coryatlarge]

anybody know where i can watch the beginning? i missed about 3/4ths of it.

[loveisdead]

Not a lot of policy talk, but he needed to address the political bullshit.

I thought it was a really good speech. I'm really surprised you didn't like it.

[QuikTrig]

Cool story, bro.

i genuinely believe that bush had good intentions for the country. that meant nothing, obviously. just sayin'.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Not a lot of policy talk, but he needed to address the political bullshit.
I would say that was my main issue. But it's typical.

[saysmydoctor]

I didn't need to the President to assign blame. I already knew all of that.

[Mitch]

I hope McDonnell pulls a Jindal.

[macabre]

Can't use an Executive Order, DADT is in UCMJ, only can changed by the Senate.

Here's the bill though: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1283/show

I can't believe Ros-Lehtinen is the only Republican co-sponsor of that bill.

[saysmydoctor]

I can't believe Ros-Lehtinen is the only Republican co-sponsor of that bill.
Ron Paul, shitting the money bed again.

[Thriftstoresuit]

Psshh...yeah. If there's one word that gets bandied about FAR TOO RARELY in the U.S., it's the word "terrorist".

haha

[WarpSpeedChewy]

Anyone watching the GOP response ? I imagine it'll be difficult.

[saysmydoctor]

I can't listen to McDonnell talk, so no.

[J.C.]

Black kid? Check.

Asian dude? Check.

[Machu505]

Bob McDonnell sounds like Eric Cantor.

Also, when my mom saw Mitch McConnell, she said "Look at that goofball."

[loveisdead]

I'm watching him. Can't crack a joke the way Obama can.

[Jason Tate]

I didn't need to the President to assign blame. I already knew all of that.

You're in the minority on that one.

[macabre]

OBAMA: He called for action by the White House and Congress "to do our work openly, and to give our people the government they deserve."

THE FACTS: Obama skipped past a broken promise from his campaign -- to have the negotiations for health care legislation broadcast on C-SPAN "so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies." Instead, Democrats in the White House and Congress have conducted the usual private negotiations, making multibillion-dollar deals with hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and other stakeholders behind closed doors. Nor has Obama lived up consistently to his pledge to ensure that legislation is posted online for five days before it's acted upon.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/27/fact-check-state-union-compares-reality/

Another great example of fair and balanced reporting

[Until The Bombs]

LOL. The federal government is trying to do too much. Should have taken that line out.

[J.C.]

Deficit spending? Added bureaucracy?

Buuuuuuuuuuush.

[Until The Bombs]

Best medical care system in the world?

[J.C.]

THE BEST MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM IN THE WOOOOOORLD

x

[Machu505]

It's shorter than a fucking Harry Potter novel, motherfucker.

[loveisdead]

I think jindal was better

[J.C.]

The black woman needs to step her game up. She is getting thoroughly out-nodded by the asian dude.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

McDonell sounds he was coached by a nervous high school debate captain.

[UnderMyDreams]

How about the part where he said to post ideas about healthcare on Facebook or Twitter? Yes, fix the nation's healthcare in 140 characters or less.

[Until The Bombs]

I swear, if I ever decide to try to get into politics, I'm making my kids serve.

[saysmydoctor]

"Live crowd really does help the response, though. It turns platitudes into applause lines." - Ezra Klein

[macabre]

Equality of opportunity? Establish an Estate Tax.

[dpatrickguy]

That Asian dude is digging this speech

[J.C.]

That sounds more like an argument for mayors.

[Machu505]

Praise Jesus, everybody.

[J.C.]

America must be a land where property is respected.

tell that to the indians, buddy

[Until The Bombs]

Wonder if Asian dude is getting paid by the head nod.

[saysmydoctor]

Equality of opportunity? Establish an Estate Tax.
Exactly.

Dude clearly doesn't really how difficult social mobility is in the US.

[WarpSpeedChewy]

This response is suspiciously looking like a hair club for men commercial.

[Machu505]

Nothing special, really. Better than Jindal.

[saysmydoctor]

America must be a land where property is respected.

tell that to the indians, buddy
Nah, we'll just supertax their cigarettes and casino profits instead, thanks.

[dpatrickguy]

Wonder if Asian dude is getting paid by the head nod.

He would be raking in the dough. His head nod to talking point ratio is off the charts

[SunnyInPhilly]

Dem's don't act like a flock of sheep, unlike Republicans. So of course you had some Dems who didn't agree.

Ben Nelson, the 60th vote, was bribed with Medicaid exemptions for Nebraska. So yes, they had all 60 votes, and they were mostly sheep.

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1209/Ben_Nelsons_Medicaid_deal.html

[macabre]

Exactly.

Dude clearly doesn't really how difficult social mobility is in the US.

I don't understand how anyone could seriously argue that a kid growing up in Harlem and another kid growing up in the Hamptons have equality of opportunity, it's complete bullshit.

[saysmydoctor]

I don't understand how anyone could seriously argue that a kid growing up in Harlem and another kid growing up in the Hamptons have equality of opportunity, it's complete bullshit.
One is just trying harder, duh.

[dpatrickguy]

One is just trying harder, duh.

if they just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps they could be in the Hamptons

[SanePsychotic]

could this be it (DADT repeal)?


EDIT: there it is.

My father and I cheered when we heard that. My father called it, but I didn't believe him and there it was.

[wesgemm08]

I wish they could find a politician that could actually deliver a rebuttal after the state of the union address, not just another speech

[GeeBee]

if they just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps they could be in the Hamptons

If they just went to AA and joined the Mormon church, they'd already be crying on their OWN Fox commentary and radio talk shows.

[dpatrickguy]

If they just went to AA and joined the Mormon church, they'd already be crying on their OWN Fox commentary and radio talk shows.

Yeah those lazy mother fuckers

[saysmydoctor]

Palin did post-speech analysis apparently. LOL.

[saysmydoctor]

Pelosi doesn't think the Pentagon should be immune: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32094.html

"Pelosi, an early Iraq War opponent who has championed increases in domestic spending programs, told POLITICO that it’s “hard to make the case” to completely exempt the Pentagon from a spending freeze, saying that there has to be “some room” to cut “5 percent” from the defense budget by targeting waste among contractors and the sprawling defense bureaucracy..."

I'd say more than 5%. This portion of the budget is an even bigger blackhole than our healthcare spending. Billions is wasted by the Pentagon and COUNTLESS defense analysts have made the claim that the Defense budget needs to be slimmed and that there needs to be a lot more oversight. For instance, this new trend to hire contractors to secure military base gates. We have military police. Why do we need to hire these for-profit entities to do what the military can already do? The same goes for cooks. The same goes for contracting out base housing to property management companies. So on and so forth. It's not fiscally responsible at all.

[saysmydoctor]

http://stateoftheunion2010.theatlantic.com /

"Tax incentives, small-business veneration, glorification of the entrepreneur, chest-thumping on competition, and even a bit of nationalism. Obama articulates Republican policies better than Republicans do. Doesn't look sour and mean, or like he wants to bite somebody."

Now that's a populist if I ever saw one.

[Jason Tate]

http://stateoftheunion2010.theatlantic.com /

"Tax incentives, small-business veneration, glorification of the entrepreneur, chest-thumping on competition, and even a bit of nationalism. Obama articulates Republican policies better than Republicans do. Doesn't look sour and mean, or like he wants to bite somebody."

Now that's a populist if I ever saw one.
Those happen to be some of the Republican "policies" I agree with.

[caveBEAR]

Those happen to be some of the Republican "policies" I agree with.

Same here.