Lil Wayne

[Under The Knife]

Garbage and utter trash. I don't understand why people listen to him. His rhymes are weak, he can't flow, and none of his "punchlines" make any goddamn sense. He is the King and Leader of Mainstreams downfall. His rhymes are far from complex, his voice is annoying, and the auto-tune voice is even more annoying.

TgXL20IoyHM

Look at all these ugly whores circlejerking to Lil Wayne and he can't even play the damn guitar. They won't even tell him that he sucks because they're too busy sucking his dick. These are the same type of people who use to say guitars were for white boys and they called me an Oreo even though numerous blacks have played the guitar. They don't care about the instrument and they don't respect it. He can't play guitar he can't rap. He can't even sit up straight in his chair for fuck sake. He obviously can't afford a belt. Yet I can't believe people listen to his "music" let alone paying to look at this creature alive. Stupid ******s. They make us all look bad.

He's a disgrace to the rap genre. If you want rap listen to some Wu-Tang, 2 Pac, Biggie, or Eminem. Best rapper alive? No he's not, and that's a fact. There's proof to support it. I doubt he writes his own lyrics, and even if he does, they still suck. I myself am not a huge fan of Biggie, but I do think he had more talent in his pinky than Lil Wayne ever did. What also bothers me though, is that fact that he's featured in so many songs! It almost ruins it! He's got his voice auto-tuned for every song, and it makes me want to tear off my ears! He's a queerbait rap "artist" with tear drop tattoos under his eyes to represent how many ass rapings he received before he realized he enjoyed the cock. Probably the biggest contributor to hip-hop's death today, maybe with the exception of Soulja Boy. He's got tattoos of cum, dripping down his face. He's got a hoarse voice, but a hamster penis. The reason for his voice is because, like his rhymes, Lil' Wayne sucks dick. He can't touch or even come close to real emcees like Rakim or Nas, although -due to his sexuality- he'd probably like to do both of those things.

His name's "Weezy", the sleazy, cheesy rapper. It pleases him when his boyfriend skeezes in his greazy crapper. He gives rap a bad name cuz' all his raps are the same. All his raps are lame, and he looks like a dame. He's got cheddar, but only because some folks just don't know better. A woman once wanted to fuck him, but he wouldn't let her. He told her he was saving himself for Birdman, and that once they were married, they'd change their names to Lil' Stain and Turdman. His pubic hair dreads hang down past his face, another man's ass is his favorite place. He makes a milli here, makes a milli there, puts a willy here, takes a willy there. He shoves a willy here, loves a willy in his rear, he's really just a queer, livin' in fear. He shoves a willy there, loves a willy in the derriere, you can tell from his hair, that's no man, there's a fairy in there.

He's a willionaire.

[Genuma]

thanks for the opinion, i won't waste my time reading it.

[yayitsjoe]

cool story bro.

he's still making a lot more than you'll ever make. or i'll make. or 95% of us will ever make.

[maxvsmaradona]

tl;dr

[FueledByRock]

Who cares?

[troubledbyinsects]

what a sweet thread.

[Echo Park]

damn dude, chill.

[Formatfun]

I've loved Wayne since I first heard Go DJ. I was a rap fan then, and had to have TCI when it came out. I think he's just as good today when he wants to be.

[cirerelleum]

....and then you found $20?

[Star Slight]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/Kid_Sampson/super_cool_story_bro.png

[taylorroberts]

That Mario post is awesome.

[tell that mick]

Hate on Wayne as much as you want for the material he puts out or his abilities, but the man puts more hours into the music scene than any other artist and for that, he deserves some amount of respect. Dude has truly worked his ass off to get the recognition he receives now.

[ModusPwnens]

He needs some quality control, but when he's on he's on. No Ceilings had some really glorious moments.

[roughroads]

thank you!

[Under The Knife]

Rappers like Lil Wayne have fucked up what many of us once loved. He has given a terrible image to hip hop in general. People don't like hip hop because they think hip hop is the shit on the radio. But it's not, if you want to find real hip hop you have to dig. It's not that the times are changing, it's that the mainstream is full of dumb suckers who love to hear YEAH BITCHES HOES MONEY because they're not very smart and that makes them want to be like them. Think of it this way, you are a dumbass and some famous guy comes on the radio saying all this "cool" shit in a song, well that dumbass is gonna be influenced by the dumbass on the radio, and that's how it starts. Has anyone noticed nobody likes mainstream rap but dumbasses? Rap takes SO much hate from people who aren't so stupid because they can see that it sucks cock, many people don't realize there's some great lyricists in hip hop who can make real music.

What would Pac and Biggie say?

[Star Slight]

You're saying that Biggie didn't sing about bitches and hoes and money? Listen to Big Booty Hoes. He talks about pissing and shitting on hoes.

You're retarded, at least talk about like A Tribe Called Quest or a rap group who has morals.

[desiguerilla]

i refuse to read opinions on hiphop from someone whose a fan of atreyu.

i wont go into my opinion of wayne cuz i say the same shit everytime but it just comes down to this fact: wayne is nice and if u dont believe me listen to da drought 3, dedication 2 and no ceilings

[desiguerilla]

Rappers like Lil Wayne have fucked up what many of us once loved. He has given a terrible image to hip hop in general. People don't like hip hop because they think hip hop is the shit on the radio. But it's not, if you want to find real hip hop you have to dig. It's not that the times are changing, it's that the mainstream is full of dumb suckers who love to hear YEAH BITCHES HOES MONEY because they're not very smart and that makes them want to be like them. Think of it this way, you are a dumbass and some famous guy comes on the radio saying all this "cool" shit in a song, well that dumbass is gonna be influenced by the dumbass on the radio, and that's how it starts. Has anyone noticed nobody likes mainstream rap but dumbasses? Rap takes SO much hate from people who aren't so stupid because they can see that it sucks cock, many people don't realize there's some great lyricists in hip hop who can make real music.

What would Pac and Biggie say?

um im a huge fan of BIG but a good portion of his raps were about fuckin bitches, dealin, and makin money, as well as gattin people

[Under The Knife]

90s rap was awesome, and clearly the best era of rap... There wasn't a better era for rap, it was more advanced than the shitty basic rap of grandmaster flash and all that pop-rap garbage and it was before the focus of the catch chorus.

Nas, Jay Z, Wu Tang, Dre, Snoop, Mobb Deep, Mos Deff, Talib Kweli, Tupac, Big, etc... The list goes on. The 90s killed.

lil wayne is shit. ill listen to rap if it has good lyrics, but he rambles on in his rhymes about pointless shit. usually about girls or cars, i cant understand what hes saying, plus hes a crackhead. he also looks like an ape.

[briewer]

Favorite Bands
My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet For My Valentine, Atreyu, Linkin Park, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, As I Lay Dying, A Skylit Drive, Black Tide, Dragon Force, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Chiodos, The Devil Wears Prada, Escape the Fate, Green Day, August Burns Red, Lamb Of God, blessthefall, Bring Me The Horizon, Underoath, Job For A Cowboy, Cobra Starship, Linkin Park, The Fray, Pinkly Smooth, Emery, Pantera

Are you joking? You've got to be joking.

[Shatter_Glass]

lil waste is more accurate if u ask me son...

[DejaNew]

Favorite Bands
My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet For My Valentine, Atreyu, Linkin Park, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, As I Lay Dying, A Skylit Drive, Black Tide, Dragon Force, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Chiodos, The Devil Wears Prada, Escape the Fate, Green Day, August Burns Red, Lamb Of God, blessthefall, Bring Me The Horizon, Underoath, Job For A Cowboy, Cobra Starship, Linkin Park, The Fray, Pinkly Smooth, Emery, Pantera

Are you joking? You've got to be joking.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHA

[Under The Knife]

Wow, you posted my favorite bands. Good for you. :rolleyes:

[softhands]

Watch The Carter Documentary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carter_Documentary), then we will talk.

[Formatfun]

He's changed his rapping a little, but he's still amazing when he's amazing. He's been my 2nd favorite rapper for a long time.

[x togepi x]

OMG I HATE LIL WAYNE SO I'M GOING TO BE A HOMOPHOBIC FUCK TO PROVE MY POINT.


meh.

[briewer]

Wow, you posted my favorite bands. Good for you. :rolleyes:
I'm just saying, I could probably post an angry rant beginning with, "Garbage and utter trash. I don't understand why people listen to [them]," about any of those bands. Your irony is showing.

[Under The Knife]

What gets on my nerves is when lil wayne fans will say some stupid shit like "you just hatin' on lil wayne cause he rich and got money" I can care less about some fuckin' money. Commercial hip-hop is so freakin' retarded and lil wayne is the leader of this retarded trend. I bet if lil wayne told his fans to jump off a cliff, dumbasses would probably do it, all because lil wayne said so lol.

[Pat k]

Listen to "Receipt" and tell me Lil' Wayne sucks.

[ohitsmark]

I liked Lil Wayne back in the Juvenile, CMM days.

[greenteaallday]

Wayne has too many good songs to say he is terrible.

I am not his biggest fan but you cannot deny the talent, when he has a good track it is better than almost anything else in hip hop.

[kearn1tm]

Homophobia is fun!

Sidenote: Lil' Wayne is hysterical and immensely entertaining, whether you like his music or not. No homo, of course.

[Star Slight]

I don't care if its heroin in my cup. It's my cup, so fuck you

[xJesusFreakx]

Am I the only one who was really annoyed at all the unnecessarily long censored moments during the "Drop the World"/"Forever" performance on the Grammys tonight? I thought it sounded pretty sweet besides that.

[IntoTheSun]

Am I the only one who was really annoyed at all the unnecessarily long censored moments during the "Drop the World"/"Forever" performance on the Grammys tonight? I thought it sounded pretty sweet besides that.

Your avatar scares me.

[briewer]

Homophobia is fun!

Sidenote: Lil' Wayne is hysterical and immensely entertaining, whether you like his music or not. No homo, of course.
I've started looking at him as a satirist rather than a serious act, and I've enjoy him immensely more now.

[BlueFlame]

Am I the only one who was really annoyed at all the unnecessarily long censored moments during the "Drop the World"/"Forever" performance on the Grammys tonight? I thought it sounded pretty sweet besides that.
It was annoying.

[kearn1tm]

I've started looking at him as a satirist rather than a serious act, and I've enjoy him immensely more now.

Fuck, I enjoy him sincerely. He's hilarious and his music is fun as hell. Hearing him pontificate the finer points of weed with Barbra Walters is the stuff dreams are made of.

[DejaNew]

Agreed that if you don't take him seriously that he's entertaining.

[xJesusFreakx]

Your avatar scares me.

:-p

[NateFoundGlory]

You make me hate Fight Club.

[kearn1tm]

Agreed that if you don't take him seriously that he's entertaining.

Peeps, if you take him seriously, he's super amusing, because this cat seems sincere, and that makes him all the more cool. His zany antics, being legit, makes him the greatest man alive.

[tell that mick]

Rappers like Lil Wayne have fucked up what many of us once loved. He has given a terrible image to hip hop in general. People don't like hip hop because they think hip hop is the shit on the radio. But it's not, if you want to find real hip hop you have to dig. It's not that the times are changing, it's that the mainstream is full of dumb suckers who love to hear YEAH BITCHES HOES MONEY because they're not very smart and that makes them want to be like them. Think of it this way, you are a dumbass and some famous guy comes on the radio saying all this "cool" shit in a song, well that dumbass is gonna be influenced by the dumbass on the radio, and that's how it starts. Has anyone noticed nobody likes mainstream rap but dumbasses? Rap takes SO much hate from people who aren't so stupid because they can see that it sucks cock, many people don't realize there's some great lyricists in hip hop who can make real music.

What would Pac and Biggie say?

I hate when people play the "What would Pac/BIG do?" card. Fact of the matter is, no one knows what they would do. Chances are they would evolve with the genre, just like Snoop Dogg has done. For all we know, they both could have gone on to release sub par material and no one would regard them as the best of the best any longer. Who can really say?

[Scrandon]

What gets on my nerves is when lil wayne fans will say some stupid shit like "you just hatin' on lil wayne cause he rich and got money" I can care less about some fuckin' money. Commercial hip-hop is so freakin' retarded and lil wayne is the leader of this retarded trend. I bet if lil wayne told his fans to jump off a cliff, dumbasses would probably do it, all because lil wayne said so lol.

wait... aren't you the kid who said you wanted to try ecstacy and crack?

LMAO

[Scrandon]

Peeps, if you take him seriously, he's super amusing, because this cat seems sincere, and that makes him all the more cool. His zany antics, being legit, makes him the greatest man alive.

HA

[Rawzz]

You don't have to listen to music you don't like.

So quit wasting our time whining about it.

[ZachMadeMeOdd]

Haha well I didn't take the time to read that essay but I agree. Wayne is a bit overhyped. Whoever produces his beats is a mastermind though.


I get some laughs that black girls before 2009 didn't even probably believe guitars existed until Weezy picked one up, and now datshitzhot.

[sweepthenation]

I hate Wayne, he represents so much of what is wrong with music

[Star Slight]

I hate Wayne, he represents so much of what is wrong with music

Hahha, what's wrong with music that Wayne represents?

[sweepthenation]

Hahha, what's wrong with music that Wayne represents?

You've heard his lyrics right? The sort involving nacho cheese and being higher than a pelican?

[Star Slight]

You've heard his lyrics right? The sort involving nacho cheese and being higher than a pelican?

To be fair, the nacho cheese line is in Kanye's part. And if rapping about pelicans is what's wrong with music, I'd say music doesn't really have that many problems.


EDIT:
Also, I think the "higher than a pelican" line is Young Jeezy based on a google search because I hadn't heard it before.

[sweepthenation]

To be fair, the nacho cheese line is in Kanye's part. And if rapping about pelicans is what's wrong with music, I'd say music doesn't really have that many problems.


EDIT:
Also, I think the "higher than a pelican" line is Young Jeezy based on a google search because I hadn't heard it before.

Good call I mixed it up because in one his song he mentions being high and a pelican in the same verse. Still, just look at 1000 degrees of a milli

[Star Slight]

Good call I mixed it up because in one his song he mentions being high and a pelican in the same verse. Still, just look at 1000 degrees of a milli

I agree that some of his songs, most notably all of Rebirth, are filler, but he really proves himself to be a great lyricist on Da Drought 3 and No Ceilings. No, he's not writing "There is a Light That Never Goes Out", but its extremely clever for its purpose.

[theguy77]

oh cool. the grammys just happened and we're gonna talk about bad music for awhile.

[Paulb-182]

This guy is the pussy monster.. What's not to like?

[kearn1tm]

Lil' Wayne is everything awesome about mainstream music (except, you know, the homophobia). You guys can suck it (no homo, of course)!

[oliviaemmer]

I've loved Wayne since I first heard Go DJ. I was a rap fan then, and had to have TCI when it came out. I think he's just as good today when he wants to be.
I agree.

[Live4TheKingdom]

hahaha
lil wayne could affort a million belts if he wanted to

and almost all his raps are him freestyling. could you do that? i dont think so

and lil wayne is a highly educated individual. but ****** gotta hate greatness

[DannySniper]

He needs some quality control, but when he's on he's on. No Ceilings had some really glorious moments.

You are local news, I'm 60 minutes.

[drudo182]

This kid's an idiot.
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Haiti (http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showcomments&j=30821&e=251731)
By "Tyler Durden"

Stupid white celebrities and naive white liberals are falling over themselves to give cash to blacks who have nothing to eat in their self-governed, corrupt hell-hole. Still, they're really proud of having slaughtered the French.

This is exactly what was done after 9/11 and Katrina. Why can't these overpaid/under talented WHITE people use their "star" power to help deserving humans? I'd be far more impressed if these assholes would fly their private jets to ****** town Port-au-Prince, pick up a shovel and get to work without the damn press covering each and every microsecond. I'd be more impressed if they would tell what press that does show up that now isn't the time for indulging the paparazzi.

I honestly don't give a fuck about Haiti. I actually think it's disgusting that they're getting all this attention and money. Italy had a bad fucking earthquake not too long ago, and they only received like 1/10 of the money Haiti has received for donations. Not only that, while the Haitians stand around, whining, complaining, and jacking off on all the money and shit they're getting for free, Italy manned the fuck up and took care of shit on their own without a fucking word. It's been a long-known fact Haiti is the most useless and despised country in the world. They've received millions upon millions of dollars throughout the years to help them becoming at the very least a second-rate country, but they just piss it all away and keep expecting people to just give them more and more. I know some people say it's the fault of the corrupt government, but governments can only do as much as their people let them. Haiti is pathetic and IMO it would've lifted a giant burden off the world if everybody there got killed. Also, I've read that the U.S. is investing so much into it right now because they're interested in acquiring it. Could be false, but I definitely believe it.

[<*)))><]

He got some terrible lyrics

"when i was 5 my favorite movie was the gremlins
ain't got shit to do with this but just thought i'd mention"

"I love brain, give me a leech"

"verse 2, this is verse 2, ill murk u, like i murk you"

"I'm trapped in a maze so therefore I'm amazing"

[briewer]

oh cool. the grammys just happened and we're gonna talk about bad music for awhile.
Hey what do you know? Ryan's wrong about this artist too!

[cshadows2887]

I keep wanting to like him. But his lyrics and his pisspoor live performances prevent me.

[Under The Knife]

I got some lyrics from a lil wayne song called prom queen, and a song by sac rapper X-Raided. Compare.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqbf8eeZSw
Yeah!

I loved her fancy underwear
I'd sit behind her every year
Waiting for the chance to get
To tell her I'm the one she should be with, oh

She's popular with all the guys
So innocent in my eye
I could see her in my life
She would've had []

But see, she had other plans I couldn't understand
Her and her stupid friends, varsity's biggest fans
Never'll forget the day she laughed and walked away
And I couldn't stop her, I guess she had it all

She had it all figured out
But she left me with a broken heart
Fucked around and turned me down
'Cause she didn't think I could play the part

But now the prom queen, the prom queen
Is crying, sitting outside of my door
See, you never know how
How everything could turn around

They loved her fancy underwear
Every boyfriend, every year
She tried to keep 'em entertained
When they can hardly remember her name

She did everything she could
Just to make them love and treat her good
She'd find herself alone
Asking herself where did she go wrong

She didn't realize she chased the type of guys
That don't believe in ties, trying to apologize
Never'll forget the day she laughed and walked away
And I couldn't stop her, I guess she had it all

She had it all figured out
When she left me with a broken heart
Fucked around and turned me down
'Cause she didn't think I could play the part

But now the prom queen, the prom queen
Is crying, sitting outside of my door
See, you never know how
How everything could turn around

She had it all figured out
When she left me with a broken heart
Fucked around and turned me down
'Cause she didn't think I could play the part

But now the prom queen, the prom queen
Is crying, sitting outside of my door
See, you never know how
How everything can turn around



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX78g1k_gyE
I'm givin' it to you old school style, no album cover gimmicks,
No intros, no shout outs, nothin' but straight lyrics,
If you in your car buckle up,
But if you don't like what I'm sayin' when you see me knuckle up,
No studio gangsta stories or tall tales full of fiction,
I'm spittin' the life of a ***** that's full of indecision,
Don't know which way to go,
At the crossroads,
It's time to elevate the game,
Cuz they spit the same ol' same,
Cuz a ***** done grew up,
Through some shit that'll make the average ***** fold up,
Thought I had it sowed up,
But hold up, you know what?
I realized the World wouldn't give a fuck whether I'm here or not,
And that's contrary to all that other madness that you hear a lot,
Ain't no bigger figures, just us ******,
Sometimes they give us action,
This shit is crashin' back to Earth like Michael Jackson,
It don't matter how much scrilla,
You got, you still a *****,
They either assassinate your character, frame ya, or they kill you,
I don't blame you, if you don't feel the, game I wrote,
We've been brainwashed, unconscious prisoners ever since we left the boat,
Subliminal messages from bands to reject this shit,
But they can't hide the truth no matter what they try to do,
My judgment day is everyday,
Fuck what they say,
And make 'em pay,
Grab your H.K., and dragon slay,
And make a day,
Would you rather ride or stay a puppet?
In the ghetto makin' crumbs, why they makin' scrilla by the bucket,
But fuck it,
To each his own,
But to me it's on,
Fuck the chest, forget the vest, I'm aimin' for enemy domes,
Cuz only the strong, survive, one life to live,
Let us around,
What's that sound? It's goin' down

Chorus:

Fuck all y'all,
Fuckin' with my mind,
Until you all fall,
Misanthropy
Fuckin' with my mind,
You can't understand yours,
Now can you understand my,
Misanthropy?
(2x)

Second Verse:

I did four hundred years in Hell,
Now they tryin' to give me twenty-five to life in the cell,
Got'cha boy on the run and if they catch me it's over,
Rollin' in a Nova,
Three-fifty packin' a forty-caliber Mag importer,
Declarin' war, on the system,
Askin' for help, but the muthafuckas didn't listen,
They tried to get killed, but now they label me a killer,
You lived by the scroll, but you gone die by the scrilla,
Neither of you can see the pain in my eyes, fuck a disguise,
I wear it on my shoulder like a bass,
Causin' casualties like M*A*S*H,
Been a soldier in the truest sense,
Born and raised in a war zone, it's always on,
And you can die in an instant,
As infants grow up to be convicts,
Knew how to shoot a gun since the age of six,
Little lunatic,
Papa didn't wanna raise a punk,
Beat'cha til' you hate it, his ass grew up and beat'cha while you ride punk,
I'm unapproachable, can't nobody tell me shit,
I got my mind made up, fuck a psychiatrist,
I don't need nobody tryin' to tell me what I'm thinkin',
The ghetto is stuck on quicksand and it's sinkin', it's goin' down

[Voice Taped From A Speech]
We are peaceful people,
We are loving people,
We love everybody who loves us,
We're non-violent with people who are non-violent with us,
We are NOT non-violent with ANYONE, who is violent with us

Chorus

Third Verse:

>From day one the odds was against me,
Nate one have love for a *****, so the Devil tried to tempt me,
To loc up, revolt, rebel,
Said "You might as well,
You already, livin' in Hell"
I got, somethin' in my soul tellin' me "***** this shit ain't right",
The Lord never answered, but I prayed with all my might,
So fuck waitin' patient, it's a virtue I don't have,
I got money on my mind and I want my shit in cash,
Fuck a forty acre and a mule,
I want everything that you owe me, it's time to pay your dues,
I was used, and abused, for centuries,
But when they mention warfare, they never mentioned me,
But can you picture me?
On top of the World? Runnin' shit with a major attitude,
Madder than that prophet bitch,
With a clip full of shit,
Tearin' your ass to pieces, when the trigger releases,
You're deceased and you got them P.D's, D.A's, judges and polices,
Peep the thesis,
We gets, hot like volcanic lava,
I'm down to slide a ****** drama,
Speedin' shit up like some java,
Fuck a comma,
It don't pause, I'm steady unloadin',
Unstoppable ***** the glock goes plop-plop on that ass,
And suckers steady foldin',
I'm hatin' men like the lesbians,
Always down for drama doin' shit just thesbian,
Only love my Mama, traumatize your ass with the quick,
Better come prepared if you try to ride or try to diss my clique,
It's goin' down *****

Chorus (2x)

You don't gotta read all of them, just skim

[live.]

He's penned some great bars, but has clearly gotten lazy. No Ceilings was pretty decent, but I hope to see another on-point release from him before he goes to jail.

[Burn That Shit]

He got some terrible lyrics

"when i was 5 my favorite movie was the gremlins
ain't got shit to do with this but just thought i'd mention"

"I love brain, give me a leech"

"verse 2, this is verse 2, ill murk u, like i murk you"

"I'm trapped in a maze so therefore I'm amazing"

he's a punchline rapper, he's supposed to have satirical lines.

[<*)))><]

he's a punchline rapper, he's supposed to have satirical lines.
But they are just so stupid how is being trapped in a maze make you amazing? He rhymes the word with same word. I can do that

[Star Slight]

But they are just so stupid how is being trapped in a maze make you amazing? He rhymes the word with same word. I can do that

Its a pun.

[batmannj]

This kid's an idiot.
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Haiti (http://www.absolutepunk.net/journal.php?do=showcomments&j=30821&e=251731)
By "Tyler Durden"

Stupid white celebrities and naive white liberals are falling over themselves to give cash to blacks who have nothing to eat in their self-governed, corrupt hell-hole. Still, they're really proud of having slaughtered the French.

This is exactly what was done after 9/11 and Katrina. Why can't these overpaid/under talented WHITE people use their "star" power to help deserving humans? I'd be far more impressed if these assholes would fly their private jets to ****** town Port-au-Prince, pick up a shovel and get to work without the damn press covering each and every microsecond. I'd be more impressed if they would tell what press that does show up that now isn't the time for indulging the paparazzi.

I honestly don't give a fuck about Haiti. I actually think it's disgusting that they're getting all this attention and money. Italy had a bad fucking earthquake not too long ago, and they only received like 1/10 of the money Haiti has received for donations. Not only that, while the Haitians stand around, whining, complaining, and jacking off on all the money and shit they're getting for free, Italy manned the fuck up and took care of shit on their own without a fucking word. It's been a long-known fact Haiti is the most useless and despised country in the world. They've received millions upon millions of dollars throughout the years to help them becoming at the very least a second-rate country, but they just piss it all away and keep expecting people to just give them more and more. I know some people say it's the fault of the corrupt government, but governments can only do as much as their people let them. Haiti is pathetic and IMO it would've lifted a giant burden off the world if everybody there got killed. Also, I've read that the U.S. is investing so much into it right now because they're interested in acquiring it. Could be false, but I definitely believe it.


whoa....

[cshadows2887]

Its a pun.

You really have to stretch to call it a pun.

[cshadows2887]

whoa....

This kid hasn't had one non-trolling post on this site, ever. Either he's just here to stir shit up, in which case everyone should ignore his borderline retardation, or he's actually this dumb, in which case everyone should ignore his borderline retardation.

[Star Slight]

You really have to stretch to call it a pun.

A maze....A maze-ing.

Its a play on words... albeit a pretty bad one, but still.

[cshadows2887]

A maze....A maze-ing.

Its a play on words... albeit a pretty bad one, but still.

I guess my point is that saying it's a pun doesn't defend it if it's awful. Especially if someone (not you, I know) is going to defend him as a "punchline rapper" then your punchlines should be good. His aren't.

[Star Slight]

I guess my point is that saying it's a pun doesn't defend it if it's awful. Especially if someone (not you, I know) is going to defend him as a "punchline rapper" then your punchlines should be good. His aren't.

Thats a good example of one of his throwaway lyrics, and yeah I agree there's a lot of filler in the music he puts out. But when he is on the top of his game, he has some pretty great punchlines.

I was arguing that he wasn't rhyming the same word with itself...a maze and amazing are two different words, and it was meant as a pun, not literally that if you are in a maze, you are amazing.

I can't believe that we're talking about that line in a serious way.

[golferpunk1]

Rappers like Lil Wayne have fucked up what many of us once loved. He has given a terrible image to hip hop in general. People don't like hip hop because they think hip hop is the shit on the radio. But it's not, if you want to find real hip hop you have to dig. It's not that the times are changing, it's that the mainstream is full of dumb suckers who love to hear YEAH BITCHES HOES MONEY because they're not very smart and that makes them want to be like them. Think of it this way, you are a dumbass and some famous guy comes on the radio saying all this "cool" shit in a song, well that dumbass is gonna be influenced by the dumbass on the radio, and that's how it starts. Has anyone noticed nobody likes mainstream rap but dumbasses? Rap takes SO much hate from people who aren't so stupid because they can see that it sucks cock, many people don't realize there's some great lyricists in hip hop who can make real music.

What would Pac and Biggie say?
Pac and Biggie would be making the same garbage that mainstream rappers are making today. Just because they are dead people put them on this pedestal.

[cshadows2887]

Thats a good example of one of his throwaway lyrics, and yeah I agree there's a lot of filler in the music he puts out. But when he is on the top of his game, he has some pretty great punchlines.

I was arguing that he wasn't rhyming the same word with itself...a maze and amazing are two different words, and it was meant as a pun, not literally that if you are in a maze, you are amazing.

I can't believe that we're talking about that line in a serious way.

Yeah. Let's stop. It's really not worth the time it takes to discuss.

[MyNameIsRoss]

srs? another weezy thread?

[TypeGSiR]

yeee i agree sucks at guitar

[The Indigo]

Wayne goes hard.

7mmCxvNIMz8

[briewer]

Walk around like I'm 30 feet tall
Tiger Woods--all these hoes tryna birdie these balls.

[EvilZeppelin]

Favorite Bands
My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet For My Valentine, Atreyu, Linkin Park, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, As I Lay Dying, A Skylit Drive, Black Tide, Dragon Force, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Chiodos, The Devil Wears Prada, Escape the Fate, Green Day, August Burns Red, Lamb Of God, blessthefall, Bring Me The Horizon, Underoath, Job For A Cowboy, Cobra Starship, Linkin Park, The Fray, Pinkly Smooth, Emery, Pantera

Are you joking? You've got to be joking.

:gay:

[ThisIsNotDan]

I used to be as big a Weezy hater as any, but honestly, they say you grow to like something if you hear it enough times, and I have heard so much Weezy that I'm starting to like him :shrug: he's still beyond overrated, but I can appreciate his work ethic a hell of a lot

[SophGod]

Here's my view on weezy. For every amazing song he has, he has about 5 terrible songs.

[tkxxx7]

I used to love Weezy. Now, I'm like "eh" for the most part.

[yayitsjoe]

Wayne goes hard.

7mmCxvNIMz8


i don't know if you were joking or not. but regardless, i love this song. hate me all you want. haha.

[kearn1tm]

Wah! I could rhyme like Lil Wayne. Wah, he makes silly one-liners. Wah, I hate fun SERIOUS INDIE ROCKS FOR ME!

[The Indigo]

i don't know if you were joking or not. but regardless, i love this song. hate me all you want. haha.
Not joking. I prefer Weezy's genuine awesomeness to the faux-maturity of most APxCore bands.

[Matt Chylak]

Here's my view on weezy. For every amazing song he has, he has about 5 terrible songs.

...but he puts out at least 12x more songs than anyone else on the planet, so it still adds up to better. for the most part, you can figure out the bad songs quickly. a little sifting goes a long way with lil wayne

[Matt Chylak]

He got some terrible lyrics

"when i was 5 my favorite movie was the gremlins
ain't got shit to do with this but just thought i'd mention"

"I love brain, give me a leech"

"verse 2, this is verse 2, ill murk u, like i murk you"

"I'm trapped in a maze so therefore I'm amazing"

that's my favorite weezy lyric. it perfectly captures his rhyming style

[<*)))><]

that's my favorite weezy lyric. it perfectly captures his rhyming style
I love how he can just throw that in.

[Keagan Ilvonen]

Anyone check out the new mixtape? Some older songs but a few I haven't heard yet.

[kearn1tm]

Anyone check out the new mixtape? Some older songs but a few I haven't heard yet.

I haven't tracked it down yet. What older songs are on it and how different are they from their previous incarnations?

[Star Slight]

I haven't tracked it down yet. What older songs are on it and how different are they from their previous incarnations?

datpiff.com has it

I don't even bother downloading the random mixtapes anymore

[tell that mick]

He got some terrible lyrics

"when i was 5 my favorite movie was the gremlins
ain't got shit to do with this but just thought i'd mention"

"I love brain, give me a leech"

"verse 2, this is verse 2, ill murk u, like i murk you"

"I'm trapped in a maze so therefore I'm amazing"

Haha, that is legit one of my favorite Weezy lines.

[SophGod]

...but he puts out at least 12x more songs than anyone else on the planet, so it still adds up to better. for the most part, you can figure out the bad songs quickly. a little sifting goes a long way with lil wayne

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying.

[<*)))><]

Haha, that is legit one of my favorite Weezy lines.
Do you go to SU?

[Under The Knife]

Rap is dying.. you can call it dead. because people run out of shit to talk about. And all they are left with is some weak vanilla ice bullshit, meaning stealing other peoples shit and making remixes outta em.

[kearn1tm]

Rap is dying.. you can call it dead. because people run out of shit to talk about. And all they are left with is some weak vanilla ice bullshit, meaning stealing other peoples shit and making remixes outta em.

Stop listening to mainstream hip hop then. The genre is far from dying. Do some digging and there's a wealth of great artists/MCs.

[yayitsjoe]

Not joking. I prefer Weezy's genuine awesomeness to the faux-maturity of most APxCore bands.


agreed. thank you.

[briewer]

Shut it down.

[kearn1tm]

Shut it down.

Did you just confuse me with that child?

[Under The Knife]

Lil wayne is complete utter garabge hes shit , his lyrics are retarted like heres some examples

" Ya im Tired of these haters , thats why i go hard like AC Slater "

"buck buck again might fly to LA and just fuck Corinne
nah fuck Corinne lets get bucks again
and fuckin spend them bucks and then just fuck Corinne"

But some of his shit is good ill admit like Drop The World even tho Enimem Kills him

and every song he gets on with Drake like Ransom he just fucking kills him its insane. And Young Money is Just complete garbage the only good people are Drake, Nicki Minaj, Millz , And MAc Maine , everyone else especially fucking gudda and tyga are fuckin shit they fucking blow my dick there garabage and lil wayne looks more retarted for fucking signing them hes really a retart and hes going to jail for 8 months guys

[j4callen]

He needs some quality control, but when he's on he's on. No Ceilings had some really glorious moments.

Right on my man.

[Star Slight]

"buck buck again might fly to LA and just fuck Corinne
nah fuck Corinne lets get bucks again
and fuckin spend them bucks and then just fuck Corinne"


His whole verse in that song is unreal.

[briewer]

Did you just confuse me with that child?
What? No, I'm just sick of talking to this dipshit.

[Under The Knife]

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[Star Slight]

Kx7EXtJtJlQ

[kearn1tm]

What? No, I'm just sick of talking to this dipshit.

It was a 30 Rock reference. The episode where Liz dates the dwarf.

[tell that mick]

Do you go to SU?

No, I go to Ithaca. I'm from Syracuse, though. Why?

[cshadows2887]

Stop listening to mainstream hip hop then. The genre is far from dying. Do some digging and there's a wealth of great artists/MCs.

I read a really interesting interview woth Jay-Z where he said hip-hop needs to go underground again and cited how bands like Grizzly Bear fill these decent size venues with no radio support while mainstream hip-hop artists flounder. I thought it was pretty perceptive of him.

[briewer]

It was a 30 Rock reference. The episode where Liz dates the dwarf.
Ah, you and your pop culture references that don't quite have anything to do with the topic at hand. I should have known.

[Charles777]

Lil Wayne sucks, the sky is blue, water is wet, etc.

[Matt Chylak]

OP is ridiculous because he's not trolling. He actually believes his point of view carries weight in this thread

[kearn1tm]

I read a really interesting interview woth Jay-Z where he said hip-hop needs to go underground again and cited how bands like Grizzly Bear fill these decent size venues with no radio support while mainstream hip-hop artists flounder. I thought it was pretty perceptive of him.

Side-note: Jay-Z is ever the business man. He was all about Fall Out Boy when scene music was becoming the mainstream fad, now he's namedropping Grizzly Bear like a bastard when crossover indie stars to gain traction on the charts. That Jay!

Ah, you and your pop culture references that don't quite have anything to do with the topic at hand. I should have known.

Dude, "shut it down" was originated from 30 Rock. It's entered the pop-lexicon because of 30 Rock. Oh Brian, you magnificent, oblivious tool.

[<*)))><]

No, I go to Ithaca. I'm from Syracuse, though. Why?
I got a lot of friends who got to su, so I'm a bit pumped for march madness.

[tell that mick]

I got a lot of friends who got to su, so I'm a bit pumped for march madness.

Oh, nice! And yeah, March Madness should be pretty awesome for 'Cuse this year (knock on wood).

[Under The Knife]

http://i48.tinypic.com/6xq846.jpg

[<*)))><]

http://i48.tinypic.com/6xq846.jpg
How can you say he is unoriginal and uncreative he raps about stuff no other rapper can rap about. Who else can say when they were five there favorite movie was the germlins and it has nothing to do with anything. No one exactly now shut up.

[Under The Knife]

If it isn't supposed to make sense then it has no point. Making no sense = no talent. Every bit of rap I i listen to bangs harder than lil wayne. If you want a GOOD song, check out "The Execution" by B the killa MC feat. ILLegitimate when you get a chance.

[kearn1tm]

This is B the Killa MC, for those curious, and yes, he is pretty bad:

http://www.myspace.com/bthekillamc

[briewer]

Side-note: Jay-Z is ever the business man. He was all about Fall Out Boy when scene music was becoming the mainstream fad, now he's namedropping Grizzly Bear like a bastard when crossover indie stars to gain traction on the charts. That Jay!
Um, he's not a business man, he's a business, maaan.

...

Handle his business damn.


Dude, "shut it down" was originated from 30 Rock. It's entered the pop-lexicon because of 30 Rock. Oh Brian, you magnificent, oblivious tool.
Okay? It also has something to do with what we're talking about; yours does not.

Pzzerrrhhh. Laser shield.

[ThisIsNotDan]

This is B the Killa MC, for those curious, and yes, he is pretty bad:

http://www.myspace.com/bthekillamc

DUDE HE'S NOT WELL KNOWN, WHICH AUTOMATICALLY MEANS HE'S BETTER, DON'T YOU GET IT?!?!?!

[kearn1tm]

Okay? It also has something to do with what we're talking about; yours does not.

Pzzerrrhhh. Laser shield.
It related to your reference, which is part of the dialog you turd. You know when someone makes a comical allusion to some other work, and someone, out of comr...you know what, you suck Brian. You suck at everything ever and you hate fun and you have to be all pretentious guy and ruin things. "Mah, mine's related to the blabidy blooo because I want to win fake arguments that aren't even arguments because rabblkajdfklaj." This is why you're going to die alone!

Also, I will die with twenty-two very attractive, exotic men weeping for me while fondling each other, so I'm better than you!

[kearn1tm]

DUDE HE'S NOT WELL KNOWN, WHICH AUTOMATICALLY MEANS HE'S BETTER, DON'T YOU GET IT?!?!?!

Haha!

[captainamazing4]

i like lil wayne, but rebirth sucks dick haha

[briewer]

It related to your reference, which is part of the dialog you turd. You know when someone makes a comical allusion to some other work, and someone, out of comr...you know what, you suck Brian. You suck at everything ever and you hate fun and you have to be all pretentious guy and ruin things. "Mah, mine's related to the blabidy blooo because I want to win fake arguments that aren't even arguments because rabblkajdfklaj." This is why you're going to die alone!

Also, I will die with twenty-two very attractive, exotic men weeping for me while fondling each other, so I'm better than you!
Now you're quoting Magnum P.I.? I can't keep up.

[nuttyspoonman]

couldn't agree with you more dude. he absolutely sucks and its good to see that others dislike him and look past all his stupid shit.

[summer skin]

People are going to think I'm joking but I mean this with all my heart: Jay Z is awful.

[love_american_style]

I came into this thread becuse i thought you were gonna post something funny.
You didn't say anything funny.

why are you not being funny?

[summer skin]

I came into this thread becuse i thought you were gonna post something funny.
You didn't say anything funny.

why are you not being funny?
I just wanted speak my mind in the face of all this unwarranted Weezy hate.
Anyone who's heard Ransom or We Be Steady Mobbin' should know he's the best out.

[ThisIsNotDan]

he's the best out.

...

[summer skin]

...
Go ahead and spout off about b.o.b. or p.o.s.

Won't change my mind.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Go ahead and spout off about b.o.b. or p.o.s.

Won't change my mind.

I don't listen to either, I don't even hate Weezy anymore, I'm just sort of confused how you can call Jay-Z "awful" and then call Weezy the best rapper out there

[Neo Cassady]

lol at everyone defending Lil Wayne in here.

[Under The Knife]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f168/SandTiger1089/lilwayne.jpg
(http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f168/SandTiger1089/?action=view&current=lilwayne.jpg)

[summer skin]

I don't listen to either, I don't even hate Weezy anymore, I'm just sort of confused how you can call Jay-Z "awful" and then call Weezy the best rapper out there
Jay Z sounds like ever rapper... At least Wayne brings something different to the table.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Jay Z sounds like ever rapper... At least Wayne brings something different to the table.

actually wouldn't the first statement be the other way around, if anything, keeping in mind how long he's been rapping? I don't think Jigga sounds like most other rappers at all personally. and yeah Weezy does bring something new to the table alot, but different =/= good (i.e. Rebirth). if he's your favorite that's cool, I think saying he's the best out there is a bold statement

[summer skin]

actually wouldn't the first statement be the other way around, if anything, keeping in mind how long he's been rapping? I don't think Jigga sounds like most other rappers at all personally. and yeah Weezy does bring something new to the table alot, but different =/= good (i.e. Rebirth). if he's your favorite that's cool, I think saying he's the best out there is a bold statement
all I know is Jay Z's verse on mr. carter is the worst
"Also I'm on Auto....Pilot"

[Burn That Shit]

People are going to think I'm joking but I mean this with all my heart: Jay Z is awful.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? blueprint? black album? gurrrrll, youz crazy.

[Blueburndtjamb]

I loved weezys documentary, or at least the preview

[Alex1410]

I listen to lil wayne more than any other rapper. He's got a lot of filler but with the amount of stuff he releases, it doesn't matter.

[kearn1tm]

Now you're quoting Magnum P.I.? I can't keep up.

BARK!

[kearn1tm]

People are going to think I'm joking but I mean this with all my heart: Jay Z is awful.

This is a generalization and speculation, but here goes:

These lame music enthusiasts who jock Jay-Z now like him for a few reasons. Dude's a mogul now. Dude jocks crossover mainstream artists who have a tinge of edge to the mainstream because it will make him money. Dude was creaming over Fall Out Boy in '05 because that fake Emo/faux-Pop Punk was so cool and punx to stupid kids and it made Jay money and gained him cred with suburban white kids who rejected a commercialized Hip Hop and wanted commercialized [insert other thing that feels like its edgy]. Same with Grizzly Bear now. They're on the cusp of mainstream, that Indie Folk thing is on the precipitous of becoming huge. Warp has a distribution deal with Island. Boom. So now he, by proxy/association is a crossover darling too, when in '97, the guy was just big in that boutique Hip Hop genre that wasn't gaining mainstream press unless it was under the hegemony of Gangsta Rap. We have indie blogs blowing their load over Jay. That makes him acceptable.

The kicker: he's not made a great album since the '90s. He's recorded one good album in the '00s. The rest is boring pseudo-social commentary and addressing "the haters." Who the fuck are your haters now? Everyone except the cats in your genre love you, yet there's always the token "fuck y'all haters" track on every new record he promises will be his last.

In conclusion: he's boring.

[kearn1tm]

actually wouldn't the first statement be the other way around, if anything, keeping in mind how long he's been rapping? I don't think Jigga sounds like most other rappers at all personally. and yeah Weezy does bring something new to the table alot, but different =/= good (i.e. Rebirth). if he's your favorite that's cool, I think saying he's the best out there is a bold statement

He wasn't even particularly distinct in the '90s. He just had a strong sense of pace and his rhymes were different from the Gangsta Rap that dominated the airwaves. He maintained the posturing, the hedonism, the lyrical masturbation and kept that succinct afro-centric epistemology in a quickly co-opted genre, but so were many others around the time. He was lucky enough to work with producers that also worked with the cats who were big.

He was good when he had something to say. He hasn't for a decade, at least, in my humble opinion.

[Star Slight]

This is a generalization and speculation, but here goes:

These lame music enthusiasts who jock Jay-Z now like him for a few reasons. Dude's a mogul now. Dude jocks crossover mainstream artists who have a tinge of edge to the mainstream because it will make him money. Dude was creaming over Fall Out Boy in '05 because that fake Emo/faux-Pop Punk was so cool and punx to stupid kids and it made Jay money and gained him cred with suburban white kids who rejected a commercialized Hip Hop and wanted commercialized [insert other thing that feels like its edgy]. Same with Grizzly Bear now. They're on the cusp of mainstream, that Indie Folk thing is on the precipitous of becoming huge. Warp has a distribution deal with Island. Boom. So now he, by proxy/association is a crossover darling too, when in '97, the guy was just big in that boutique Hip Hop genre that wasn't gaining mainstream press unless it was under the hegemony of Gangsta Rap. We have indie blogs blowing their load over Jay. That makes him acceptable.

The kicker: he's not made a great album since the '90s. He's recorded one good album in the '00s. The rest is boring pseudo-social commentary and addressing "the haters." Who the fuck are your haters now? Everyone except the cats in your genre love you, yet there's always the token "fuck y'all haters" track on every new record he promises will be his last.

In conclusion: he's boring.

So you're calling Jay-Z a poser basically?

The fact that you say he hasn't made a great album since the 90s is ridiculous. Blueprints 1-3, American Gangster, and The Black Album are all incredible.
Boring pseudo-social commentary? So all of a sudden rappers can't make political tracks?

I really don't know anyone who likes Jay-Z because he endorsed Fall Out Boy or because he likes Grizzly Bear, thats just dumb. People like him because he releases incredible hip-hop albums. Jay's a business man, of course if he sees something increasing in popularity he's going to endorse it.

[cshadows2887]

He wasn't even particularly distinct in the '90s. He just had a strong sense of pace and his rhymes were different from the Gangsta Rap that dominated the airwaves. He maintained the posturing, the hedonism, the lyrical masturbation and kept that succinct afro-centric epistemology in a quickly co-opted genre, but so were many others around the time. He was lucky enough to work with producers that also worked with the cats who were big.

He was good when he had something to say. He hasn't for a decade, at least, in my humble opinion.

Does he not get a little credit for consistently producing very catchy and well-constructed singles? I like to think there's merit in that. Considering you're a professed fan of Fall Out Boy, I would think that you do too.

[kearn1tm]

The fact that you say he hasn't made a great album since the 90s is ridiculous. Blueprints 1-3, American Gangster, and The Black Album are all incredible.

It's like people value different things! You can use whatever adjective you want to describe those albums. I find them bland and they pail in comparison to much better Hip-Hop albums released in the last ten years

Boring pseudo-social commentary? So all of a sudden rappers can't make political tracks?

That's the point. He has nothing to say. Hip Hop is a very politically charged genre and he has absolutely nothing of substance to offer. He has so many peers speaking about things of importance in ways that are particularly meaningful and Jay doesn't really have much to say anymore.

I really don't know anyone who likes Jay-Z because he endorsed Fall Out Boy or because he likes Grizzly Bear, thats just dumb.

Directly, no, but it's certainly a component of that aesthetic making him so appealing.

Does he not get a little credit for consistently producing very catchy and well-constructed singles? I like to think there's merit in that. Considering you're a professed fan of Fall Out Boy, I would think that you do too.

What's catchy? I find those wacky Fall Out Boy dudes catchy, but they're pretty disposable. Kelly Clarkson makes "catchy" singles. Why isn't she as lauded as Jay-Z then? Is catchy the criteria for quality? I'm asking that on a personal level, because to an extent, for certain artists, it's part of my own personal, subjectively-derived template for quality. Jay-Z isn't catchy to me personally.

[cshadows2887]

What's catchy? I find those wacky Fall Out Boy dudes catchy, but they're pretty disposable. Kelly Clarkson makes "catchy" singles. Why isn't she as lauded as Jay-Z then? Is catchy the criteria for quality? I'm asking that on a personal level, because to an extent, for certain artists, it's part of my own personal, subjectively-derived template for quality. Jay-Z isn't catchy to me personally.

Fair enough. Catchy is most definitely in the eye of the beholder. I prob should have asked if you found him catchy first. And I wasn't saying that fact puts him in a position or artistic superiority, just that he shouldn't be devalued too much.

Personally I think "Izzo," "Empire State of Mind" and "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" are among the better radio hits of the last decade or so.

[kearn1tm]

Fair enough. Catchy is most definitely in the eye of the beholder. I prob should have asked if you found him catchy first. And I wasn't saying that fact puts him in a position or artistic superiority, just that he shouldn't be devalued too much.

Personally I think "Izzo," "Empire State of Mind" and "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" are among the better radio hits of the last decade or so.

99 Problems and Guilty Before Proven Innocent are immensely catchy. I'll attest to that. I just find Jay-Z to be incredibly bland. Again, my initial statement was a hypothesis based on generalizations and anecdotal situations, so take it with a grain of salt (the reasons behind why Jay-Z became such a huge crossover act in the second half of the decade), but the quality, in my estimation, isn't particularly high. He's not bad, but certainly hollow.

[cshadows2887]

99 Problems and Guilty Before Proven Innocent are immensely catchy. I'll attest to that. I just find Jay-Z to be incredibly bland. Again, my initial statement was a hypothesis based on generalizations and anecdotal situations, so take it with a grain of salt (the reasons behind why Jay-Z became such a huge crossover act in the second half of the decade), but the quality, in my estimation, isn't particularly high. He's not bad, but certainly hollow.

I'll grant you that depth isn't his best asset, but I feel like he's the Grand Canyon next to the majority of commercial hip-hop. And though I love underground hip-hop, sometimes you want a little production value and gloss on your songs, and if you're looking for that, Jay-Z is one of the better options.

[kearn1tm]

I'll grant you that depth isn't his best asset, but I feel like he's the Grand Canyon next to the majority of commercial hip-hop. And though I love underground hip-hop, sometimes you want a little production value and gloss on your songs, and if you're looking for that, Jay-Z is one of the better options.

The production and the samples, the looping, the crazy effects can be found in the underground. They pioneer what producers like Pharell, Just Blaze, Timbaland, DJ Toomp and the rest eventually catch on to. However, yeah, in the shallow realm of Mainstream Hip-Hop, Jay-Z's better than most.

Lil Wayne's a helluva lot more fun (in my opinion, obviously) and the dude isn't out there posturing. He's just making surrealist rhymes with crazy beats.

[cshadows2887]

The production and the samples, the looping, the crazy effects can be found in the underground. They pioneer what producers like Pharell, Just Blaze, Timbaland, DJ Toomp and the rest eventually catch on to. However, yeah, in the shallow realm of Mainstream Hip-Hop, Jay-Z's better than most.

Lil Wayne's a helluva lot more fun (in my opinion, obviously) and the dude isn't out there posturing. He's just making surrealist rhymes with crazy beats.

Eh. I tried to get into Weezy. I like his guest spot. But a whole song of him tends to wear out his welcome with me. For me to like a "punchline" rapper (or whatever people call him) I have to actually find him funny. I much prefer Ludacris.

[kearn1tm]

Eh. I tried to get into Weezy. I like his guest spot. But a whole song of him tends to wear out his welcome with me. For me to like a "punchline" rapper (or whatever people call him) I have to actually find him funny. I much prefer Ludacris.

I've never head that term until this thread, but I understand why it would be applied to him. He's a walking den of hedonistic pleasure. I love him for that. Luda's a part of that Southern Rap scene I never got into. Dudes like him, Nelly, Petey Pablo and the like just aren't my thing. I'd say the crazy production and manic, frenetic energy of a Lil Wayne release eclipses anything Luda's done, but then, that's just my take.

[cshadows2887]

I've never head that term until this thread, but I understand why it would be applied to him. He's a walking den of hedonistic pleasure. I love him for that. Luda's a part of that Southern Rap scene I never got into. Dudes like him, Nelly, Petey Pablo and the like just aren't my thing. I'd say the crazy production and manic, frenetic energy of a Lil Wayne release eclipses anything Luda's done, but then, that's just my take.

Yeah I never dug that scene much either, but I've always found Luda consistently very funny and like the majority of his singles. I'd take "Stand Up" over "A Milli" any day. But humor is such a personal taste, there's really no sense debating it. What you find funny is as much chemical as mental.

[kearn1tm]

Yeah I never dug that scene much either, but I've always found Luda consistently very funny and like the majority of his singles. I'd take "Stand Up" over "A Milli" any day. But humor is such a personal taste, there's really no sense debating it. What you find funny is as much chemical as mental.

What you find funny is also very much dependent on culture/society, but I digress. I feel the need to clarify that I don't like Lil Wayne simply because he's humorous.

[The Indigo]

Eh, when Jay-Z is on his game, I don't think there's anyone that can touch him. Problem is, he's only on his game about 50% of the time. Every other record he's made in the 00's has been terrible. I'd say for now, Wayne is the best rapper alive (and by that, I mean the one who I can most believe when he says he's the best alive). What clinched it for me was hearing Wayne spit over the Run This Town and D.O.A. beats on No Ceilings. He murdered Jay-Z, no question.

[evvandflow]

ive been listening to the no ceilings mixtape nonstop lately

[summer skin]

ive been listening to the no ceilings mixtape nonstop lately
Shit goes off.

[Under The Knife]

Get that Lil Wayne bullshit out of here.

[evvandflow]

swag surf and throw it in the bag are two of my all time favorite weezy tracks

[evvandflow]

Get that Lil Wayne bullshit out of here.

out of the lil wayne thread..?

[Alex1410]

I watched the carter documentary after reading this thread and its awesome.

[ThisIsNotDan]

I've never head that term until this thread, but I understand why it would be applied to him. He's a walking den of hedonistic pleasure. I love him for that. Luda's a part of that Southern Rap scene I never got into. Dudes like him, Nelly, Petey Pablo and the like just aren't my thing. I'd say the crazy production and manic, frenetic energy of a Lil Wayne release eclipses anything Luda's done, but then, that's just my take.

eh personally I find Luda to be above his southern rap contemporaries, or the Nelly's and Petey Pablo's of the world. he doesn't think of himself as a joke, but he doesn't take himself overly seriously, which I can really dig. plus, you don't fuck up Preemo beats, and to his credit, Luda did a great job on "MVP"

[SophGod]

I love Jay-Z and Lil Wayne. GIVE ME A GOLD MEDAL.

[Carlo Marx]

eh. there's about a million better rappers out there right now.

[EasySkankin]

Lil wayne has his shining moments, but best rapper alive? I don't think so. When biggie died, nas became number one.

[Under The Knife]

Underground Rap ftw

[DannySniper]

You can't beat "My bullets come with wings and your cerebellum can fly."

Also, does anyone know when that 30 Mins To New Orleans (or Fuck One Time, depending on what you believe) song from the documentary is coming out? It sounds like fire:

ISA7BJRaFLs

[saving jonathan]

Lil Wayne has his moments, but most of his rhymes are garbage.

[DannySniper]

Lil wayne has his shining moments, but best rapper alive? I don't think so. When biggie died, Jay became number one.

Fixed.

[Pat k]

Nas was always #1- Big and Jay borrowed from him.

[EasySkankin]

Fixed.
you mean that hip-pop? He's great, and I'm still listening to blueprint 3, but it's apples to oranges

[Star Slight]

Fixed.

Ehhhh...I'd say Nas held that title until after Stillmatic and "Ether", then Jay took over.

[saving jonathan]

Nas is iller than Weezy will ever be. Jay has had some great albums, but other times I wonder where his greatness is.
Reasonable Doubt is still the best thing he'll ever do.

[deadkidsean]

Lil wayne has his shining moments, but best rapper alive? I don't think so. When biggie died, nas became number one.Nas was always #1- Big and Jay borrowed from him.you mean that hip-pop? He's great, and I'm still listening to blueprint 3, but it's apples to oranges

lol

[Pat k]

Nas is iller than Weezy will ever be. Jay has had some great albums, but other times I wonder where his greatness is.
Reasonable Doubt is still the best thing he'll ever do.

100% correct

[Pat k]

If you need a history lesson, Nasty will provide one:

Iq9anpBnCCk

[EasySkankin]

Nas is iller than Weezy will ever be. Jay has had some great albums, but other times I wonder where his greatness is.
Reasonable Doubt is still the best thing he'll ever do.
seconded. Dead presidents is still one of my favorite hip hop tracks

[DannySniper]

you mean that hip-pop? He's great, and I'm still listening to blueprint 3, but it's apples to oranges

I guess. In my mind Nas doesn't come close to Jay though.

Ehhhh...I'd say Nas held that title until after Stillmatic and "Ether", then Jay took over.

I never got Ether, I never though it was funny or clever or...good? It was just crazy spiteful. Like hes trying to fit too many bad insults inbetween making himself out to be a victim. And he doesnt really address any of the shit Jay brings up. Plus, the Super Ugly Freestyle basically destroyed Nas for me.

And it's not as if I hate anyone dissing Jay. I like The Game's disses and all the disses Beanie Seigel has been putting out lately. I Go Off is still on high rotation for me.

[Pat k]

To me, it's as simple as "Jay Z didn't make Illmatic and Nas did." Best verses of all time on that record. Ether was cool, and God's Son and Hip Hop is Dead are both dope, but c'mon, it's all about Illmatic.

[Star Slight]

To me, it's as simple as "Jay Z didn't make Illmatic and Nas did." Best verses of all time on that record. Ether was cool, and God's Son and Hip Hop is Dead are both dope, but c'mon, it's all about Illmatic.

Even though Illmatic is my favorite hip hop CD, Nas kinda floundered as he got older. Yes, Illmatic is better than anything that Jay-Z has done, but Jay is still putting out consistently good records, if you forget about Kingdom Come.

Maybe its just me, but Nas' later CDs just bore me aside from a select few tracks. Untitled was pretty good though, so maybe he was just in a slump.

[DannySniper]

To me, it's as simple as "Jay Z didn't make Illmatic and Nas did." Best verses of all time on that record. Ether was cool, and God's Son and Hip Hop is Dead are both dope, but c'mon, it's all about Illmatic.

"Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years *****? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME!"

Also, Reasonable Doubt kills Illmatic.

[briewer]

"Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years *****? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME!"

Also, Reasonable Doubt kills Illmatic.
I can't even conceive how someone would think 'Ether' is better than 'Takeover'. The former is all, "Dood ur gay", and the latter is, "You're a poor rapper at best, and here are some statistics to prove it".

[DannySniper]

I can't even conceive how someone would think 'Ether' is better than 'Takeover'. The former is all, "Dood ur gay", and the latter is, "You're a poor rapper at best, and here are some statistics to prove it".

Where have you been all my life?

Jay-Z does more in one verse than Nas can do in a whole song, not to mention destroying Mobb Deep. But yeah, as mentioned before, the Super Ugly Freestyle put the nail in Nas' coffin for me.

[The Indigo]

"Hi, I'm Nas. I walk around with an inflated sense of importance because I made one really good album. I give my records controversial names like Hip-Hop is Dead and ****** so I can remain relevant, but I'm a giant pussy, so I just end up pretending I'm a really persecuted artist when in reality, no one cares what I do anymore."

"Hi, I'm Jay-Z. I'm perhaps the most successful solo artist of all time, but only because I'm a master at convincing my audience that my albums are good just because they're my albums. Who cares if I had fifty guests on my last CD and each and every one of them out-shined me on every track? Who cares that the flow I used on "Run This Town" is the same one I used on "Empire State of Mind," which is the same one I used on "On to the Next One," which is the same one I used on every song off my new album? I'm Jay-fucking-Z; I don't have to actually be good anymore."

"Hello, its the martian."

Clearly, Weezy is the fucking boss.

[DannySniper]

"Hi, I'm Nas. I walk around with an inflated sense of importance because I made one really good album. I give my records controversial names like Hip-Hop is Dead and ****** so I can remain relevant, but I'm a giant pussy, so I just end up pretending I'm a really persecuted artist when in reality, no one cares what I do anymore."

"Hi, I'm Jay-Z. I'm perhaps the most successful solo artist of all time, but only because I'm a master at convincing my audience that my albums are good just because they're my albums. Who cares if I had fifty guests on my last CD and each and every one of them out-shined me on every track? Who cares that the flow I used on "Run This Town" is the same one I used on "Empire State of Mind," which is the same one I used on "On to the Next One," which is the same one I used on every song off my new album? I'm Jay-fucking-Z; I don't have to actually be good anymore."

"Hello, its the martian."

Clearly, Weezy is the fucking boss.

Haha. Could of also used "I am the pussy monster" or "A MILLI, A MILLI, A MILLI x 100000000"

[Jake Denning]

My favorite

7za0syWeaek

[DannySniper]

That was awesome.

[TopspotUSA]

I wouldn't say he is a weak lyricist. Granted he doesn't really rap about anything. He is still a great wordsmith. He's also a smart and clever individual. You also have to give him credit for experimenting and trying to reinvent himself. - Sean Russell

[Pat k]

Even though Illmatic is my favorite hip hop CD, Nas kinda floundered as he got older. Yes, Illmatic is better than anything that Jay-Z has done, but Jay is still putting out consistently good records, if you forget about Kingdom Come.

Maybe its just me, but Nas' later CDs just bore me aside from a select few tracks. Untitled was pretty good though, so maybe he was just in a slump.

I don't like Jay Z's newer stuff. That new LP is wack. Hip Hop is Dead and God's Son were both great records. Stillmatic was good. So I guess I don't agree with what you said.

Reasonable Doubt is not better than Illmatic. No way, no how.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Rebirth got almost a 5/10 on P4K. am I missing something?

[Pat k]

Rebirth got almost a 5/10 on P4K. am I missing something?

I hate to say it, but you might have missed the rebirth.

[DannySniper]

I don't like Jay Z's newer stuff. That new LP is wack. Hip Hop is Dead and God's Son were both great records. Stillmatic was good. So I guess I don't agree with what you said.

Reasonable Doubt is not better than Illmatic. No way, no how.

Pfft, besides Illmatic (which is very good, but is in no way God's gift to rap) Nas' albums are nothing more than run-of-the-mill hip-hop. Good for a song or two but quite boring.

[summer skin]

Rebirth changed the game.

[tpen892004]

Rebirth changed the game.

your kidding right?

[summer skin]

your kidding right?
She's on fire is the song of '10.
Callin' it.

[Mibabalou]

lil wayne dot com bitch login

[T-bag]

Permanent case of emphysema.

[Pat k]

Pfft, besides Illmatic (which is very good, but is in no way God's gift to rap) Nas' albums are nothing more than run-of-the-mill hip-hop. Good for a song or two but quite boring.

I do not agree. Illmatic was God's gift to rap. Different strokes, I guess.

[T-bag]

Some may consider Nas boring but it's usually the complexity of his verses and at times unorthodox verse structure that puts people off.I find Lyrically though he murders 99% of rappers past and present. My opinion anyway.

[Drew Beringer]

Just want to say that Rebirth is one of the worst albums I've ever heard. And I enjoy Weezy.

[argg_xo]

My dad kept asking me who the "guy with the dreds and white shirt" was that performed with Lil Wayne and Eminem on the Grammys.
I was like, "uhhh dad, that WAS Lil Wayne."

/coolstorybro

[Under The Knife]

Proof that Lil Wayne is gay:

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs021.snc3/10839_1079127437500_1805701248_1674 52_2701897_n.jpg

[Star Slight]

Damn right I kissed my daddy
I think they pissed at how rich my daddy is
And I’m his kid I stunt with my daddy
Call Mrs. Lee, she’s with my daddy
So diss me and dont diss my daddy
Cause who was there when no one wasn’t? Just my daddy
Who was there when I needed money? Just my daddy
So who’ll be there when I see the money? Just my daddy
Who said that I be the one?
Just my daddy!
Hello Hip Hop I’m home,
Its Your Daddy

[briewer]

Why won't this fucking thread die?

[Under The Knife]

Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive.........and then he woke up, and realized it was all a dream. He shot himself in the chest once, and he's gay too, he kissed Birdman on the lips, if you dont believe it, google it. He's just one of them average rappers, big the difference is that his ego is about 100 times bigger than Kanye West (which is not an easy thing). Oh yea, he got beaten up by Gillie Da Kid's people (broken Jaw) finally get something in his mouth, besides birdmans dick.

[summer skin]

Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive.........and then he woke up, and realized it was all a dream. He shot himself in the chest once, and he's gay too, he kissed Birdman on the lips, if you dont believe it, google it. He's just one of them average rappers, big the difference is that his ego is about 100 times bigger than Kanye West (which is not an easy thing). Oh yea, he got beaten up by Gillie Da Kid's people (broken Jaw) finally get something in his mouth, besides birdmans dick.
You should keep bumping this thread.

[summer skin]

Just want to say that Rebirth is one of the worst albums I've ever heard. And I enjoy Weezy.
You just don't get it.

[kearn1tm]

Rebirth is rad as shit.

[ActorInThisPlay]

love me some Weezy...he is definitely one of my favorites.

[ActorInThisPlay]

also Jay-Z is way overrated.

[summer skin]

Haters need to GET A LIFE

[Under The Knife]

Y’know, bashing Lil Wayne via words is one of the funnest things to do. One day I’m going to be paid full time to trash talk and write shit about athletes and coaches, when I become a full time/full paid sports writer. But that’s until then. Right now, it’s time to step on Lil Wayne a little more and question how people can possibly listen to his mush mouth, inarticulate piece of junk that’s in the mainstream music.

He doesn’t rap. What he [supposedly] ‘raps’ isn’t rap. Like I said a long time ago, it’s Pop music. Hip Pop. Club Rap. How do I perceive that? Well, it’s popular, isn’t it? But, “It’s labeled as hip hop,” you ask. And, so what? Tim Duncan is labeled as a center but he’s a power forward, isn’t he? I rest my case. Lil Wayne doesn’t stick to the root of true rap/hip hop music. It’s all become a huge facade. A mecca to rap about bitches, guns and money. But don’t worry: there are rappers out there, underground rappers, who can outrap these no-talent hasbeens like Lil Wayne any day of the week.

“But Lil Wayne is more known, so he must be better.” Well, to the average basketball fan, they’ve probably heard of Kevin Garnett more than they’ve heard of Tim Duncan (trust me, I know plenty), when Duncan is clouds above Garnett. It’s all about popularity in the rap business; and with dumbasses, who don’t know what music is if they were trapped in a sound room and slapped in the face with headphones, buying music off of these mainstream hip hop artists who stick to the same bullshit theme, they’ll keep getting their money to add to their wealth. My theory is that, because he’s from the south, guys like Trick Daddy and Rick Ross — who are also terrible mainstream ‘rappers’ — ride his nuts like no other.

Is Lil Wayne the best rapper right now?

Firstly, to even discuss this question, you need to take your mindframe out of the last three to five years as well as learn something about hip hop music. Wayne isn’t a good lyricist period. He can’t rip freestyle and his flow is just bitten from volume one of Jay-Z. Like I said: he’s mush mouthed, inarticulate, and absorbed in narcissism, which some of you Young Buck fans may like, but does not signal a quality mic. You can only compare him to Ludacris, Young Jeezy, T.I., and Juelz Santana, because, save Luda, those three are NOT memorable rappers. Period. They don’t suck super hard, but they aren’t going in the history books as the best of the game. They aren’t even the best in the south. Killer Mike, Outkast, UGK, Scarface, Project Pat, Geto Boys, Devin the Dude, Pastor Troy, Little Brothers: Better rappers than the aforementioned four. Hell, David Banner smokes these cats on record. These dudes drop rhymes multisyllabic with sophistication and have versatility on the mic, unlike all the rappers mentioned in this question.

Canibus, The Roots, KRS-One, MF Doom, Nas, Papoose, Planet Asia, Rakim, RJD2, Talib Kweli, Jedi Mind Tricks and Immortal Technique all blow him out of the fucking water.

Once you learn something, find me here again and read this blog, and then you will understand why haters, like myself, hate on Wayne. You will understand why he sucks.

Source: http://17hours.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/why-lil-wayne-sucks/

Truth.

[Brokenhill]

Do a thread for ICP.

Will read.

[Under The Knife]

Do a thread for ICP.

Will read.

I won't listen to them. That's how much I dislike them.

[DejaNew]

Hahaha this guy's got wheels.

[Brokenhill]

I won't listen to them. That's how much I dislike them.

Good man.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Y’know, bashing Lil Wayne via words is one of the funnest things to do. One day I’m going to be paid full time to trash talk and write shit about athletes and coaches, when I become a full time/full paid sports writer. But that’s until then. Right now, it’s time to step on Lil Wayne a little more and question how people can possibly listen to his mush mouth, inarticulate piece of junk that’s in the mainstream music.

He doesn’t rap. What he [supposedly] ‘raps’ isn’t rap. Like I said a long time ago, it’s Pop music. Hip Pop. Club Rap. How do I perceive that? Well, it’s popular, isn’t it? But, “It’s labeled as hip hop,” you ask. And, so what? Tim Duncan is labeled as a center but he’s a power forward, isn’t he? I rest my case. Lil Wayne doesn’t stick to the root of true rap/hip hop music. It’s all become a huge facade. A mecca to rap about bitches, guns and money. But don’t worry: there are rappers out there, underground rappers, who can outrap these no-talent hasbeens like Lil Wayne any day of the week.

“But Lil Wayne is more known, so he must be better.” Well, to the average basketball fan, they’ve probably heard of Kevin Garnett more than they’ve heard of Tim Duncan (trust me, I know plenty), when Duncan is clouds above Garnett. It’s all about popularity in the rap business; and with dumbasses, who don’t know what music is if they were trapped in a sound room and slapped in the face with headphones, buying music off of these mainstream hip hop artists who stick to the same bullshit theme, they’ll keep getting their money to add to their wealth. My theory is that, because he’s from the south, guys like Trick Daddy and Rick Ross — who are also terrible mainstream ‘rappers’ — ride his nuts like no other.

Is Lil Wayne the best rapper right now?

Firstly, to even discuss this question, you need to take your mindframe out of the last three to five years as well as learn something about hip hop music. Wayne isn’t a good lyricist period. He can’t rip freestyle and his flow is just bitten from volume one of Jay-Z. Like I said: he’s mush mouthed, inarticulate, and absorbed in narcissism, which some of you Young Buck fans may like, but does not signal a quality mic. You can only compare him to Ludacris, Young Jeezy, T.I., and Juelz Santana, because, save Luda, those three are NOT memorable rappers. Period. They don’t suck super hard, but they aren’t going in the history books as the best of the game. They aren’t even the best in the south. Killer Mike, Outkast, UGK, Scarface, Project Pat, Geto Boys, Devin the Dude, Pastor Troy, Little Brothers: Better rappers than the aforementioned four. Hell, David Banner smokes these cats on record. These dudes drop rhymes multisyllabic with sophistication and have versatility on the mic, unlike all the rappers mentioned in this question.

Canibus, The Roots, KRS-One, MF Doom, Nas, Papoose, Planet Asia, Rakim, RJD2, Talib Kweli, Jedi Mind Tricks and Immortal Technique all blow him out of the fucking water.

Once you learn something, find me here again and read this blog, and then you will understand why haters, like myself, hate on Wayne. You will understand why he sucks.

Source: http://17hours.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/why-lil-wayne-sucks/

Truth.
such a credible source too...

[showmethefever]

OP has yet to talk to anybody from what I've seen in the five pages I've looked at, he just keeps throwing out his opinions.

[cshadows2887]

Not going to lie, I gave Rebirth an open-minded listen and I really wasn't into it.

[DannySniper]

also Jay-Z is way overrated.

Not when he is at his best.

Believe the hype.

[Under The Knife]

Not when he is at his best

And I don't need no hook for this shit!!!

[DannySniper]

Y’know, bashing Lil Wayne via words is one of the funnest things to do. One day I’m going to be paid full time to trash talk and write shit about athletes and coaches, when I become a full time/full paid sports writer. But that’s until then. Right now, it’s time to step on Lil Wayne a little more and question how people can possibly listen to his mush mouth, inarticulate piece of junk that’s in the mainstream music.

He doesn’t rap. What he [supposedly] ‘raps’ isn’t rap. Like I said a long time ago, it’s Pop music. Hip Pop. Club Rap. How do I perceive that? Well, it’s popular, isn’t it? But, “It’s labeled as hip hop,” you ask. And, so what? Tim Duncan is labeled as a center but he’s a power forward, isn’t he? I rest my case. Lil Wayne doesn’t stick to the root of true rap/hip hop music. It’s all become a huge facade. A mecca to rap about bitches, guns and money. But don’t worry: there are rappers out there, underground rappers, who can outrap these no-talent hasbeens like Lil Wayne any day of the week.

“But Lil Wayne is more known, so he must be better.” Well, to the average basketball fan, they’ve probably heard of Kevin Garnett more than they’ve heard of Tim Duncan (trust me, I know plenty), when Duncan is clouds above Garnett. It’s all about popularity in the rap business; and with dumbasses, who don’t know what music is if they were trapped in a sound room and slapped in the face with headphones, buying music off of these mainstream hip hop artists who stick to the same bullshit theme, they’ll keep getting their money to add to their wealth. My theory is that, because he’s from the south, guys like Trick Daddy and Rick Ross — who are also terrible mainstream ‘rappers’ — ride his nuts like no other.

Is Lil Wayne the best rapper right now?

Firstly, to even discuss this question, you need to take your mindframe out of the last three to five years as well as learn something about hip hop music. Wayne isn’t a good lyricist period. He can’t rip freestyle and his flow is just bitten from volume one of Jay-Z. Like I said: he’s mush mouthed, inarticulate, and absorbed in narcissism, which some of you Young Buck fans may like, but does not signal a quality mic. You can only compare him to Ludacris, Young Jeezy, T.I., and Juelz Santana, because, save Luda, those three are NOT memorable rappers. Period. They don’t suck super hard, but they aren’t going in the history books as the best of the game. They aren’t even the best in the south. Killer Mike, Outkast, UGK, Scarface, Project Pat, Geto Boys, Devin the Dude, Pastor Troy, Little Brothers: Better rappers than the aforementioned four. Hell, David Banner smokes these cats on record. These dudes drop rhymes multisyllabic with sophistication and have versatility on the mic, unlike all the rappers mentioned in this question.

Canibus, The Roots, KRS-One, MF Doom, Nas, Papoose, Planet Asia, Rakim, RJD2, Talib Kweli, Jedi Mind Tricks and Immortal Technique all blow him out of the fucking water.

Once you learn something, find me here again and read this blog, and then you will understand why haters, like myself, hate on Wayne. You will understand why he sucks.

Source: http://17hours.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/why-lil-wayne-sucks/

Truth.

Yet Lil' Wayne sells, so he must be doing something right.

Truth.

(Anyone know how to multi-quote on iPhone?)

[DannySniper]

And I don't need no hook for this shit!!!

My man.

[DannySniper]

Not going to lie, I gave Rebirth an open-minded listen and I really wasn't into it.

My thoughts exactly, although Drop The World is quite possibly my favourite Wayne song, along with a few others.

[Under The Knife]

Yet Lil' Wayne sells, so he must be doing something right.

Having millions of fans and making millions of dollars from rap doesn't mean you're talented. It just means millions of people are fucking stupid.

[DannySniper]

Having millions of fans and making millions of dollars from rap doesn't mean you're talented. It just means millions of people are fucking stupid.

I'm a Wayne fan and some of his millions of dollars come from me but I don't consider myself to be stupid. I just enjoy the music he puts out.

And it depends on what you define as talented. You can't look at his figures and say hes isn't talented because if this was so no-one would buy his music. He's found what people obviously want to hear and has created for them, which is a talent in itself.

[Jake Denning]

Not a giant Wayne fan, although some of his non-vocoder stuff is pretty cool, Fireman and A Milli come to mind.

[live.]

It's hard to dispute that a lot of his stuff is very good, but he just doesn't try anymore. It's disappointing and if the Carter IV lyrics are even remotely close to those on Rebirth, I'll be done.

[umarzchaudhry]

lil waye is going into everything

[DannySniper]

It's hard to dispute that a lot of his stuff is very good, but he just doesn't try anymore. It's disappointing and if the Carter IV lyrics are even remotely close to those on Rebirth, I'll be done.

If that 30 Mins To New Orleans track is on CIV then the rest of the album could be static and I'd still bump it.

[chaosinshoes]

""His name's Weezy the sleazy, cheesy rapper. It pleases him when his boyfriend skeezes in his greazy crapper. He gives rap a bad name cuz' all his raps are the same. All his raps are lame, and he looks like a dame. He's got cheddar, but only because some folks just don't know better. A woman once wanted to fuck him, but he wouldn't let her. He told her he was saving himself for Birdman, and that once they were married, they'd change their names to Lil' Stain and Turdman. His pubic hair dreads hang down past his face, another man's ass is his favorite place. He makes a milli here, makes a milli there, puts a willy here, takes a willy there. He shoves a willy here, loves a willy in his rear, he's really just a queer, livin' in fear. He shoves a willy there, loves a willy in the derriere, you can tell from his hair, that's no man, there's a fairy in there""&quot;.
I would advise you to stick with hardcore brother.

[Under The Knife]

Lil Wayne tries to use literary devices but fails. That's what happens when stupid ignorant motherfuckers grab the mic. Sure he uses a lot of words that are related cleverly but he fucks up half the time at even making the connection between the two. He doesn't even comprehend the pattern for similes and metaphors or the whole concept of the two, instead he thinks he's clever if he just happens to use 2 related words in one of his lines. That's not poetry, Weezy. And singing about how many bitches he fucks and how nice the cars he rides in doesn't really bring out many genuine emotions, (other than how much I hate him for ruining the image of hip hop) therefore it's not art.

[Brand-new-123]

Lil Wayne tries to use literary devices but fails. That's what happens when stupid ignorant motherfuckers grab the mic. Sure he uses a lot of words that are related cleverly but he fucks up half the time at even making the connection between the two. He doesn't even comprehend the pattern for similes and metaphors or the whole concept of the two, instead he thinks he's clever if he just happens to use 2 related words in one of his lines. That's not poetry, Weezy. And singing about how many bitches he fucks and how nice the cars he rides in doesn't really bring out many genuine emotions, (other than how much I hate him for ruining the image of hip hop) therefore it's not art.
Stupid white celebrities and naive white liberals are falling over themselves to give cash to blacks who have nothing to eat in their self-governed, corrupt hell-hole. Still, they're really proud of having slaughtered the French.

This is exactly what was done after 9/11 and Katrina. Why can't these overpaid/under talented WHITE people use their "star" power to help deserving humans? I'd be far more impressed if these assholes would fly their private jets to ****** town Port-au-Prince, pick up a shovel and get to work without the damn press covering each and every microsecond. I'd be more impressed if they would tell what press that does show up that now isn't the time for indulging the paparazzi.

I honestly don't give a fuck about Haiti. I actually think it's disgusting that they're getting all this attention and money. Italy had a bad fucking earthquake not too long ago, and they only received like 1/10 of the money Haiti has received for donations. Not only that, while the Haitians stand around, whining, complaining, and jacking off on all the money and shit they're getting for free, Italy manned the fuck up and took care of shit on their own without a fucking word. It's been a long-known fact Haiti is the most useless and despised country in the world. They've received millions upon millions of dollars throughout the years to help them becoming at the very least a second-rate country, but they just piss it all away and keep expecting people to just give them more and more. I know some people say it's the fault of the corrupt government, but governments can only do as much as their people let them. Haiti is pathetic and IMO it would've lifted a giant burden off the world if everybody there got killed. Also, I've read that the U.S. is investing so much into it right now because they're interested in acquiring it. Could be false, but I definitely believe it.

I haven’t donated to the Haitian relief effort for the same reason that I don’t give money to homeless men on the street. Based on past experiences, I don’t think the guy with the sign that reads “Need Your Help” is going to do anything constructive with the dollar I might give him. If I use history as my guide, I don’t think the people of Haiti will do much with my money either.
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[TEAMRAMROD]

Has anyone heard of a documentary about him called "Scarefresh"? Someone told me about it but I can't find it anywhere.

[summer skin]

If you're the shit than I'm sewer rich.

[ActorInThisPlay]

stop playin, I'm fresher than a Degree stick

[summer skin]

I'm on your face like man cum

[ActorInThisPlay]

I leave the pussy microsoft like Windows Vista

[DannySniper]

I leave the pussy microsoft like Windows Vista

Haha I was JUST about to post that.

"Young Weezy F.,
The F. is not for failin',
Swagger just dumb,
Call it Sarah Palin,
If you ****** fly then I must be parasailin',
We-we-we are not the same I'mma mother fucking ALIEN!"

"I'm just hip hop, They like two bunnies,
Who run it? Bitch *****, MOI!
That was French, *****, not a kiss, *****, nah".

[summer skin]

"I'm just hip hop, They like two bunnies,
Who run it? Bitch *****, MOI!
That was French, *****, not a kiss, *****, nah".
That's the greatest line ever spat

[Under The Knife]

Does anyone else realize that whenever you diss Lil Wayne, his fans always make personal attacks against you, but never actually back up how he’s a good rapper?

On a side note, Lil’ Wayne fans piss me off, when are they gonna call Weezy out. Eminem’s “Relapse” was weak, his fans admit it, Rakim’s “Seventh Seal” was weak, his fans admit it, Jay-z’s album wasn’t his best, his fans admit it. Honestly, the Carter III sucked, Rebirth sucked, all his shit with Young Money absolutely sucks. Wayne fans, either stand tall or sit the fuck down.

[fishguts182]

Does anyone else realize that whenever you diss Lil Wayne, his fans always make personal attacks against you, but never actually back up how he’s a good rapper?

On a side note, Lil’ Wayne fans piss me off, when are they gonna call Weezy out. Eminem’s “Relapse” was weak, his fans admit it, Rakim’s “Seventh Seal” was weak, his fans admit it, Jay-z’s album wasn’t his best, his fans admit it. Honestly, the Carter III sucked, Rebirth sucked, all his shit with Young Money absolutely sucks. Wayne fans, either stand tall or sit the fuck down.


i agree with you 100% on this.

[Klatzke]

Does anyone else realize that whenever you diss Lil Wayne, his fans always make personal attacks against you, but never actually back up how he’s a good rapper?

On a side note, Lil’ Wayne fans piss me off, when are they gonna call Weezy out. Eminem’s “Relapse” was weak, his fans admit it, Rakim’s “Seventh Seal” was weak, his fans admit it, Jay-z’s album wasn’t his best, his fans admit it. Honestly, the Carter III sucked, Rebirth sucked, all his shit with Young Money absolutely sucks. Wayne fans, either stand tall or sit the fuck down.
You're an idiot, to start with. Get the personal attack out of the way.

Anyways - Rebirth sucks, I'll admit that. TCIII, however, was really good.

[dpatrickguy]

Does anyone else realize that whenever you diss Lil Wayne, his fans always make personal attacks against you, but never actually back up how he’s a good rapper?

On a side note, Lil’ Wayne fans piss me off, when are they gonna call Weezy out. Eminem’s “Relapse” was weak, his fans admit it, Rakim’s “Seventh Seal” was weak, his fans admit it, Jay-z’s album wasn’t his best, his fans admit it. Honestly, the Carter III sucked, Rebirth sucked, all his shit with Young Money absolutely sucks. Wayne fans, either stand tall or sit the fuck down.

I agree for the most part. Tha Carter III was decent, but no where near his best. But post TCIII he has just gotten to the point of ruining otherwise good tracks. His fans are so worthless now-a-days.

[Under The Knife]

. But post TCIII he has just gotten to the point of ruining otherwise good tracks. His fans are so worthless now-a-days.

Lil Wayne makes 100's of songs per year, that's part of the reason he's so fail. All his songs are cookie cutter commercial bullshit. He changes a few elements and throws on a new beat, but all the songs are the same. He puts no heart, no soul and no thought into his shit. If he had respect for the music he would put more time and effort into his work to make masterpieces, but he'd rather just do the bare minimum to please his record company and make a little extra money. That is when I stopped listening to him, back when he started having a new mixtape every week, because none of his shit was even worth listening to. And tons of people win grammy's it's not revolutionary, plus Wu-Tang is for the children.

[dpatrickguy]

Lil Wayne makes 100's of songs per year, that's part of the reason he's so fail. All his songs are cookie cutter commercial bullshit. He changes a few elements and throws on a new beat, but all the songs are the same. He puts no heart, no soul and no thought into his shit. If he had respect for the music he would put more time and effort into his work to make masterpieces, but he'd rather just do the bare minimum to please his record company and make a little extra money. That is when I stopped listening to him, back when he started having a new mixtape every week, because none of his shit was even worth listening to. And tons of people win grammy's it's not revolutionary, plus Wu-Tang is for the children.

Yeah I agree 100%. I don't even really think he has lost the ability to make quality songs, he's just over extended his reach. One man can only do so much, and he doesn't know when to stop. He's just churning out endless amounts of worthless shit now to meet demand.

[Star Slight]

I hate to keep this tread going, but every one of Wayne's official Mixtapes has been amazing, the ones that don't include the pieces of songs that get leaked online and put onto random fan made mixtapes.

Dedication, Dedication 2, Da Drought 3, Dedication 3 and No Ceilings were all Wayne on his A-game where he put thought into what he released and they all came out in decent gaps of each other.

And yes, as a Wayne fan I have no problem saying that Rebirth is terrible and Young Money was an incredibly weak CD. In fact, I dont see anyone saying that either of those are good....TCIII was amazing though.

[Klatzke]

I hate to keep this tread going, but every one of Wayne's official Mixtapes has been amazing, the ones that don't include the pieces of songs that get leaked online and put onto random fan made mixtapes.

Dedication, Dedication 2, Da Drought 3, Dedication 3 and No Ceilings were all Wayne on his A-game where he put thought into what he released and they all came out in decent gaps of each other.

And yes, as a Wayne fan I have no problem saying that Rebirth is terrible and Young Money was an incredibly weak CD. In fact, I dont see anyone saying that either of those are good....TCIII was amazing though.
WAYM has good tracks, but overall it's a weak album. Bedrock and Fuck Da Bulls are the only tracks on it I return to.

[journeyhayes]

wow you obviously have no taste in music at all if you cant see the greatness of the almighty lil' wayne!!like seriously im a girly skater girl i hate rap alll of it screamo and indie pop are my favorite<3 but when i heard lil wayne i was amazed how someone could be so great, blew my mind away i couldnt believe how versitial he really is. so please stop trashing the great!!!! <3 always, JourneyHayes@gmail.comGarbage and utter trash. I don't understand why people listen to him. His rhymes are weak, he can't flow, and none of his "punchlines" make any goddamn sense. He is the King and Leader of Mainstreams downfall. His rhymes are far from complex, his voice is annoying, and the auto-tune voice is even more annoying.

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Look at all these ugly whores circlejerking to Lil Wayne and he can't even play the damn guitar. They won't even tell him that he sucks because they're too busy sucking his dick. These are the same type of people who use to say guitars were for white boys and they called me an Oreo even though numerous blacks have played the guitar. They don't care about the instrument and they don't respect it. He can't play guitar he can't rap. He can't even sit up straight in his chair for fuck sake. He obviously can't afford a belt. Yet I can't believe people listen to his "music" let alone paying to look at this creature alive. Stupid ******s. They make us all look bad.

He's a disgrace to the rap genre. If you want rap listen to some Wu-Tang, 2 Pac, Biggie, or Eminem. Best rapper alive? No he's not, and that's a fact. There's proof to support it. I doubt he writes his own lyrics, and even if he does, they still suck. I myself am not a huge fan of Biggie, but I do think he had more talent in his pinky than Lil Wayne ever did. What also bothers me though, is that fact that he's featured in so many songs! It almost ruins it! He's got his voice auto-tuned for every song, and it makes me want to tear off my ears! He's a queerbait rap "artist" with tear drop tattoos under his eyes to represent how many ass rapings he received before he realized he enjoyed the cock. Probably the biggest contributor to hip-hop's death today, maybe with the exception of Soulja Boy. He's got tattoos of cum, dripping down his face. He's got a hoarse voice, but a hamster penis. The reason for his voice is because, like his rhymes, Lil' Wayne sucks dick. He can't touch or even come close to real emcees like Rakim or Nas, although -due to his sexuality- he'd probably like to do both of those things.

His name's "Weezy", the sleazy, cheesy rapper. It pleases him when his boyfriend skeezes in his greazy crapper. He gives rap a bad name cuz' all his raps are the same. All his raps are lame, and he looks like a dame. He's got cheddar, but only because some folks just don't know better. A woman once wanted to fuck him, but he wouldn't let her. He told her he was saving himself for Birdman, and that once they were married, they'd change their names to Lil' Stain and Turdman. His pubic hair dreads hang down past his face, another man's ass is his favorite place. He makes a milli here, makes a milli there, puts a willy here, takes a willy there. He shoves a willy here, loves a willy in his rear, he's really just a queer, livin' in fear. He shoves a willy there, loves a willy in the derriere, you can tell from his hair, that's no man, there's a fairy in there.

He's a willionaire.