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UndertheTELE
07/17/06, 09:31 AM
Newt Gingrich claimed today that the United States is in the midst of WWIII. Considering the missle crisis with North Korea, the problems with Iran, the war in Iraq and the problems in Israel, he may be correct. Has it gotten that far?
EnderDove
07/17/06, 09:32 AM
Not yet.
I always remember hearing that WWIII would be a nuclear war, how many of those countries have nuclear weapons ready to launch at this moment in time? I dont need an answer.
UndertheTELE
07/17/06, 09:34 AM
Don't forget the terrorist attacks in England and India though.
theGrue
07/17/06, 01:34 PM
I believe the article was more about Newt saying that the republicans should spin the current conflicts as World War III to hold on to their seats in November.
Otherwise, there isn't nearly enough of the world involved for this to be WWIII.
xvszero
07/17/06, 10:53 PM
People freaking out about WW3 are so off base.
Quite frankly, no major powers are going to stick their neck out for the Arab world right now.
commatosa
07/17/06, 10:57 PM
even if there was a WWIII, it would be us and our allies against whoever. and frankly the US and our allies could destroy the rest of the world....easily.
Broken Parachute
07/17/06, 11:45 PM
Doesn't Isreal have enough power to take out half of those countries anyway?
kidinthecorner
07/18/06, 12:01 AM
Doesn't Isreal have enough power to take out half of those countries anyway?
Israel has always had the balls to do what it takes... that's how they've survived. They're surrounded by nations that don't want them to exist, so they have always had to act with strong, confident force.
Broken Parachute
07/18/06, 12:13 AM
Israel has always had the balls to do what it takes... that's how they've survived. They're surrounded by nations that don't want them to exist, so they have always had to act with strong, confident force.
Yeah I've always heard that if anyone started shit with Israel, it'd only be a matter of time before Israel kicked all of their asses. What are the chances we seriously take a beating in WWIII if we have some of the best allies?
boysdontcry17
07/18/06, 12:23 AM
i blame the canadians
EnderDove
07/18/06, 02:29 PM
Israel has always had the balls to do what it takes... that's how they've survived. They're surrounded by nations that don't want them to exist, so they have always had to act with strong, confident force.
Best attitude you can have.
Juliana101
07/18/06, 02:34 PM
Not yet.
I always remember hearing that WWIII would be a nuclear war, how many of those countries have nuclear weapons ready to launch at this moment in time? I dont need an answer.
Yeah, but that's a good thing.
UndertheTELE
07/18/06, 03:46 PM
Yeah I've always heard that if anyone started shit with Israel, it'd only be a matter of time before Israel kicked all of their asses. What are the chances we seriously take a beating in WWIII if we have some of the best allies?
I think it's the other way around though... Israel fights because they have the strong allies, we're the allies, Israel itself isn't very strong, we just take their side because they're a democratic country in a region of dictators.
kimosabe
07/18/06, 05:52 PM
Let's just hope we have a world war soon. It would be really good for the economy, and maybe we get to wipe out one of those illegitimate religions that don't believe in Jesus. Also we can show those socialist pussies who was right all along.
FarPastGone
07/18/06, 10:57 PM
First off Gingrich was pushed out of office by his fellow republicans, so seemingly his opinions are worth nothing. Not to mention the fact that this is a region that always has and always will be at each others throats, we just live in a time and age where the ability to send information about events is ever increasing so much so that the previous distances that insulated us from the exposure is gone. Israel not only has the will, but through decades of asinine support financially from the US, has the power to defend herself. I am not sure how touched up anyone is on the history of Israel (being a Geography/International Studies Major I may be at a little advantage), but right after the states establishment it immediatley went to war with five other Arab nations, not only winning, but kicking tail. Israel has one of the largest, strongest, and best-trained militarys in the world (which is almost insane for a country of its size and youth) plus it has the capability of nuclear weapons.
No, IMHO if there was to be any indications of a WWIII on the horizon it would be something to do with NK and Irans support of each other; possibly Israel launching a pre-emptive strike on Irans nuclear facilities like they did to Iraq.
cal1082
07/19/06, 12:20 AM
Let's just hope we have a world war soon. It would be really good for the economy, and maybe we get to wipe out one of those illegitimate religions that don't believe in Jesus. Also we can show those socialist pussies who was right all along.
which religion are we talking about?
Juliana101
07/19/06, 01:27 PM
Let's just hope we have a world war soon. It would be really good for the economy, and maybe we get to wipe out one of those illegitimate religions that don't believe in Jesus. Also we can show those socialist pussies who was right all along.
wow.
SwallowMyWords
07/19/06, 06:12 PM
I think it's the other way around though... Israel fights because they have the strong allies, we're the allies, Israel itself isn't very strong, we just take their side because they're a democratic country in a region of dictators.
INCORRECT TO THE MAX.
Israel actually has one of the strongest militaries in the WORLD. SHOCKING? not really. Their Air Force actually trains the US air force in certain areas.
Israel has been under attack since the FIRST DAY (and so on and so on) they became a country. with no military, 7 attacking forces, THE VERY SAME DAY OF THEIR INDEPENDENCE.
there is so much more to be said, but i'm just waiting for more of you MEDIA-friendly biased posts and discussions to be conversed. Most of you people know NOTHING on this topic, which isn't bad, but makes it far worse when you just copy and paste what is seen in front of your eyes off of the TV, Newspaper or Internet.
Honestly, if Israel is a "Knesset" aka Parliament, they obviously dont condone the act of TERRORISM. cough cough Palestine (not even a country) who is continuously supported by recognizable terroist supported countries a.k.a IRAN, SYRIA, Saudi Arabia, Iraq(Saddam-era), Lebanon.. blah blah blah.
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. LOOK FOR FACTS, rather than a WRITER who supports a Palestinian/Terrorist agenda.
You must understand this: Israel is always the EASY WAY OUT when people blame them, due to the lack of knowledge and understanding of the topic.
Think for yourselves. I dont see any Israeli's walking into a market full of 100's of people and blowing themselves up along with innocent civilians, families, kids, tourist etc. for what they call an act of " FREEDOM"
COMMON NOW!
UndertheTELE
07/20/06, 11:57 AM
INCORRECT TO THE MAX.
Israel actually has one of the strongest militaries in the WORLD. SHOCKING? not really. Their Air Force actually trains the US air force in certain areas.
Israel has been under attack since the FIRST DAY (and so on and so on) they became a country. with no military, 7 attacking forces, THE VERY SAME DAY OF THEIR INDEPENDENCE.
there is so much more to be said, but i'm just waiting for more of you MEDIA-friendly biased posts and discussions to be conversed. Most of you people know NOTHING on this topic, which isn't bad, but makes it far worse when you just copy and paste what is seen in front of your eyes off of the TV, Newspaper or Internet.
Honestly, if Israel is a "Knesset" aka Parliament, they obviously dont condone the act of TERRORISM. cough cough Palestine (not even a country) who is continuously supported by recognizable terroist supported countries a.k.a IRAN, SYRIA, Saudi Arabia, Iraq(Saddam-era), Lebanon.. blah blah blah.
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. LOOK FOR FACTS, rather than a WRITER who supports a Palestinian/Terrorist agenda.
You must understand this: Israel is always the EASY WAY OUT when people blame them, due to the lack of knowledge and understanding of the topic.
Think for yourselves. I dont see any Israeli's walking into a market full of 100's of people and blowing themselves up along with innocent civilians, families, kids, tourist etc. for what they call an act of " FREEDOM"
COMMON NOW!
Just because Israel isn't recognized as a terrorist state doesn't mean they aren't terrorizing the Palestinians the same way the Palestinians are terrorizing them. We just support Israel so we spin their actions in a different light. The entire conflict is "terrorism."
unwritten
07/20/06, 12:02 PM
Let's just hope we have a world war soon. It would be really good for the economy, and maybe we get to wipe out one of those illegitimate religions that don't believe in Jesus. Also we can show those socialist pussies who was right all along.
I hope that was a joke. haha
histrionics22
07/20/06, 03:32 PM
Just because Israel isn't recognized as a terrorist state doesn't mean they aren't terrorizing the Palestinians the same way the Palestinians are terrorizing them. We just support Israel so we spin their actions in a different light. The entire conflict is "terrorism."
In a way. But also consider that Israel for the most part, goes after terrorist targets, where as the opponents just bomb Israeli markets and other high pedestrian areas.
SwallowMyWords
07/20/06, 04:01 PM
Just because Israel isn't recognized as a terrorist state doesn't mean they aren't terrorizing the Palestinians the same way the Palestinians are terrorizing them. We just support Israel so we spin their actions in a different light. The entire conflict is "terrorism."
Israel is definitely NOT terrorizing Palestine. as i said before, where are the reports of Israeli suicide bombers?
-Look at it this way: Palestine (whatever they are called) along with other "terrorist" states/countries/hell-zones are teaching their kids from their very beginning. You may laugh at this, and think im joking, but look it up. IN THEIR TEXT BOOKS they are being taught to hate and have no sympathy for the Jewish state of Israel.
ex: Math problems, false history lessons, propaganda etc etc.
You're right.. thats not terrorizing.. thats BRAINWASHING.
fcknazisympathy
07/21/06, 11:16 AM
Let's just hope we have a world war soon. It would be really good for the economy, and maybe we get to wipe out one of those illegitimate religions that don't believe in Jesus. Also we can show those socialist pussies who was right all along.
Youre an idiot
fcknazisympathy
07/21/06, 11:24 AM
no ones gonna stick out their neck
they are gonna get attacked first, or be drawn in by diplomacy
Israel is going to attack or be attacked by Iran or Syria, and when that gets goin, all the allies will be pulled into it (including us, since we have troops there already)
Fuck the middle east, we should do some damn research on ethanol fuel so we can pull our troops out of there and let them bomb the fuck out of each other. I mean honestly if BRAZIL runs on 100% ethanol fuel, why cant we? The whole state of Nebraska could be a giant ethanol plant.
fcknazisympathy
07/21/06, 11:30 AM
yeah, we have a long road ahead of us to get to good ethanol usage though
they are just starting to get some cars with it
all the cars at the MLB All-Star Game that took the players across the bridge into the stadium were somewhat ethanol powered Chevy Avalanches
but other than that, I don't know of any
It doesnt matter, if Brazil can run their whole country on ethanol theres no reason for me to believe within the next 5-7 years we can begin and complete research on some sort of convertor that would make it usable for fuel. However, if we got another moron like Dubya who continually wastes money on the fucking Middle East we will never get anywhere and our economy will still be terrible like it is now.
Adeniz19
07/21/06, 11:33 AM
yeah, we have a long road ahead of us to get to good ethanol usage though
they are just starting to get some cars with it
all the cars at the MLB All-Star Game that took the players across the bridge into the stadium were somewhat ethanol powered Chevy Avalanches
but other than that, I don't know of anya lot of the big car companies are making the new cars E85 compatible.
fcknazisympathy
07/21/06, 11:34 AM
a lot of the big car companies are making the new cars E85 compatible.
I believe E85 is only part ethanol though. We need a universal convertor that could be used so all cars could use the E85.
Adeniz19
07/21/06, 11:36 AM
I believe E85 is only part ethanol though. We need a universal convertor that could be used so all cars could use the E85.it's 85% ethanol which is a very good start in the right direction. i'm sure we can handle getting the 15% gasoline from somewhere else other then the middle east.
fcknazisympathy
07/21/06, 12:28 PM
Alaska haha
Or Canada
theGrue
07/21/06, 12:43 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/21/121748/366
Verrrry good article about what Newt said and what it's future implications are.
MotionIsntMeaning
07/21/06, 03:32 PM
IF WWIII ever happens, it will not be because of the Middle East. It will be because China decides to challenge the Western World's domination.
yodaplaysdrums
08/01/06, 04:34 PM
even if there was a WWIII, it would be us and our allies against whoever. and frankly the US and our allies could destroy the rest of the world....easily.
I doubt it. USA and UK vs the world...
Anton Djamoos
08/01/06, 07:02 PM
IF WWIII ever happens, it will not be because of the Middle East. It will be because China decides to challenge the Western World's domination.
You're right. In about ten years, China will be the most powerful nation in the world.
kshtoinks12
08/01/06, 08:25 PM
jesus tapdancing christ, i need to watch the news more often...how did CTU end up handeling that nuclear submarine crisis?
leftstranded
08/01/06, 11:53 PM
i'll be honest. if world war III happens. i'm not going to care too much, i'll just go on living my life till i die i guess
Anton Djamoos
08/02/06, 03:07 AM
i'll be honest. if world war III happens. i'm not going to care too much, i'll just go on living my life till i die i guess
Until you're drafted.
boysdontcry17
08/02/06, 06:18 PM
hahahhahh. i'll move to tijuana when ww3 starts and no, it hasnt started yet.
gillianhsieh
08/03/06, 10:38 AM
newt gingrich is a moron. haha, so i'm from TX where everyone is a raging republican except some kids maybe in austin, and you know how normal people have things like family pictures or heirlooms on the mantel, well my friend's father has a large framed painting of newt gingrich.
cal1082
08/03/06, 05:28 PM
newt gingrich is a moron. haha, so i'm from TX where everyone is a raging republican except some kids maybe in austin, and you know how normal people have things like family pictures or heirlooms on the mantel, well my friend's father has a large framed painting of newt gingrich.
you might not agree with his policies but the man is far from a moron. what you're doing is comparable to a republican calling Clinton a moron.
both are very well read, intelligent, and terrific politicians. they simply share different political beleifs.
vandalsandquinn
08/03/06, 07:00 PM
stephen colbert has been covering world war III for quite some time now
boysdontcry17
08/04/06, 01:16 PM
did you know that the elephant population has tripled in the last 6 months?
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