Vivian Girls (official thread and shit) [Archive]

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:01 PM

They've been recipients of a healthy amount of buzz from the blogosphere and yet, no thread. Lame.

A super rad Garage Revival/Lo-Fi Punk band, they have a solid live show and super smooth, short jams. I saw them with the late Jay Reatard in '08 and it was one hell of a show.

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IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 09:17 PM

It's alright. Not really feeling it, personally.

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:18 PM

They're rad.

I know.

xJesusFreakx

02/04/10, 09:19 PM

Cool. Sounds like something I could possibly, hypothetically get into. How many albums do they have? Where would you recommend I start?

IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 09:19 PM

I know.

They sound a bit like drones :/

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:22 PM

Cool. Sounds like something I could possibly, hypothetically get into. How many albums do they have? Where would you recommend I start?

Only two - the self-titled from '08 and Everything Goes Wrong from '09.

They have that Girl Trio Garagey sound of The Shaggs, the punk/indie sound from the '80s with a touch of that lo-fi pop/twee. They're pretty bitchin'.

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:22 PM

They sound a bit like drones :/

I don't understand what that means.

amplific

02/04/10, 09:24 PM

I did sound for them once and they told me to turn the vocal reverb WAAAAAAAAY up. I was into it the sonic waves crashing into me the rest of the evening

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:25 PM

I did sound for them once and they told me to turn the vocal reverb WAAAAAAAAY up. I was into it the sonic waves crashing into me the rest of the evening

Ha. That's awesome, man. When I saw them, they drenched the room in reverb. It was good times.

xJesusFreakx

02/04/10, 09:27 PM

I'm in the process of downloading Vivian Girls. If I enjoy it enough, I'll pick up Everything Goes Wrong when I get the chance. As always, thanks for the rec.

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:27 PM

I'm in the process of downloading Vivian Girls. If I enjoy it enough, I'll pick up Everything Goes Wrong when I get the chance. As always, thanks for the rec.

I hope you enjoy, Tim. Be aware though, apparently, they "sound like drones" or so I've heard.

IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 09:28 PM

I don't understand what that means.

Are you looking for elaboration?

IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 09:29 PM

I hope you enjoy, Tim. Be aware though, apparently, they "sound like drones" or so I've heard.

Really?!!11! I thought so, too. Rad minds think alike.

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:32 PM

Are you looking for elaboration?

Yeah. You're using the word "drone" as a noun, but the definition of drone as a noun doesn't fit the context of the sentence. I get that you're saying it sounds interchangeable, but yeah, wrong use of drone.

I appreciate the posts, but yeah, from what you listen to, this band or any band like them isn't really for you.

xJesusFreakx

02/04/10, 09:34 PM

I hope you enjoy, Tim. Be aware though, apparently, they "sound like drones" or so I've heard.

http://anewnadir.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/drone_pic.jpg?

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:35 PM

http://anewnadir.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/drone_pic.jpg?

I can't tell you how many times I thought "this band conjures the sound of a stealth fighter craft."

IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 09:35 PM

Yeah. You're using the word "drone" as a noun, but the definition of drone as a noun doesn't fit the context of the sentence. I get that you're saying it sounds interchangeable, but yeah, wrong use of drone.

I appreciate the posts, but yeah, from what you listen to, this band or any band like them isn't really for you.

Ha, maybe you should put a tiny disclaimer note for me at the bottom of threads I would not enjoy. Kidding. At least I listened though, and gave my (minimal) input. I wasn't trying to troll.

Edit: I think I meant "droning" lol.

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:37 PM

Ha, maybe you should put a tiny disclaimer note for me at the bottom of threads I would not enjoy. Kidding. At least I listened though, and gave my (minimal) input. I wasn't trying to troll.

No, I know. Again, I definitely appreciate the page bumps. It'll die soon enough. I'm just saying, not really up your alley and, you know, I'm a drone and shit. Watch me fly.

amplific

02/04/10, 09:37 PM

didnt realize kearn1tm had the power to dictate another persons preference

xshady121

02/04/10, 09:50 PM

Ha, maybe you should put a tiny disclaimer note for me at the bottom of threads I would not enjoy. Kidding. At least I listened though, and gave my (minimal) input. I wasn't trying to troll.

Edit: I think I meant "droning" lol.

What the hell are you talking about?!?

i kid i kid

kearn1tm

02/04/10, 09:50 PM

didnt realize kearn1tm had the power to dictate another persons preference

Can I help you?

(nice last.fm peek)

IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 09:54 PM

What the hell are you talking about?!?

i kid i kid

Lol, you have to listen to the songs first BEFORE you can troll/bump Todd's thread, silly. (I already know your response to this.)

You drone.

Speaking of which, I don't even know what sort of music you listen to haha.

xJesusFreakx

02/04/10, 09:55 PM

No, I know. Again, I definitely appreciate the page bumps. It'll die soon enough. I'm just saying, not really up your alley and, you know, I'm a drone and shit. Watch me fly.

I feel like that could easily be a line in a sick rap song.

didnt realize kearn1tm had the power to dictate another persons preference

Your avatar is Kirby. I approve. Not that you need my approval or anything.

xshady121

02/04/10, 09:57 PM

Lol, you have to listen to the songs first BEFORE you can troll/bump Todd's thread, silly. (I already know your response to this.)

You drone.

Speaking of which, I don't even know what sort of music you listen to haha.

I read that first and was like "what the hell is she talking about?!?" Then, it clicked in and I litterally laughed out loud. Touche.

I just got home from a broomball game and should be sleeping but I'm too hyped up so I decided to try the music boards again.

Um, taylor swift. That's all I listen to. Ever.

I kid, I've been big into the LSTN 7 Mix from urban; kurt vile, the xx.... Also pheonix too. I'm listening to way too much hipster pop recently. I do like Bright Eyes a lot as well.

IntoTheSun

02/04/10, 10:03 PM

I read that first and was like "what the hell is she talking about?!?" Then, it clicked in and I litterally laughed out loud. Touche.

I just got home from a broomball game and should be sleeping but I'm too hyped up so I decided to try the music boards again.

Um, taylor swift. That's all I listen to. Ever.

I kid, I've been big into the LSTN 7 Mix from urban; kurt vile, the xx.... Also pheonix too. I'm listening to way too much hipster pop recently. I do like Bright Eyes a lot as well.

Broomball? How rad. Don't they have olympics for it or something? I can't even imagine what watching a broomball game would entail.

Ha, Bright Eyes is one of my favorites.

Kurt Vile (he listens):
Can I help you?

(nice last.fm peek)

Oh hai. Todd, meet Shady. Shady, meet Todd.

You two should go drone it up in the official Kurt Vile thread so I'll feel more inclined to get an album. Pretty good music.

xshady121

02/04/10, 10:06 PM

Broomball? How rad. Don't they have olympics for it or something? I can't even imagine what watching a broomball game would entail.

Playing. Playing broomball. It's ridiculous.

Ha, Bright Eyes is one of my favorites.
I just got into Lifted a month or so again. I lovelovelove it.

Kurt Vile (he listens):
over night religion is awesome. go dl it now.

barkingincision

02/04/10, 10:41 PM

not sure if i should see them here in santa cruz
would rather see surfer blood instead

HometownHero

02/04/10, 11:24 PM

Sounds rad

IWasaCamera

02/05/10, 10:47 AM

Not a fan, really. Self-titled is much better than Everything Goes Wrong.

fake empire

02/05/10, 11:46 AM

Their best song is Where Do You Run To. Sucks they don't play it live since it's really a Frankie Rose song. But I'm going to see her in the spring.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 11:56 AM

Not a fan, really. Self-titled is much better than Everything Goes Wrong.

I prefer Everything Goes Wrong really and I think it's better. I think it's a much more concentrated effort, despite the two sounding relatively similar. What it lacks in catchiness, it makes up in tighter instrumentals and more emotional range (in terms of lyric content).

shit stroll

02/05/10, 12:10 PM

"punk" for people who don't actually listen to punk music.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 04:33 PM

"punk" for people who don't actually listen to punk music.

or people who do!

Seriously, the argument of what is and isn't punk is becoming increasingly moot, especially considering the synthesis of sounds that made that first wave initially and all the splinter stuff that obstructed the original meaning. Punk was primarily aesthetic and ideology.

Vivian Girls sound closer to that '60s Garage Rock sound that became the foundation of the first wave in the '70s than Hardcore and the like.

briewer

02/05/10, 06:35 PM

"punk" for people who don't actually listen to punk music.
You're right, because listening to them for merits beyond whether they're punk/not punk is impossible.

briewer

02/05/10, 06:36 PM

Oh, and duh, I approve. Vivian Girls is great.

ruffian

02/05/10, 06:38 PM

don't challenge him about punk music, he's got a Minutemen avatar

briewer

02/05/10, 06:40 PM

Fuck him. I'll puke acid on his face.

shit stroll

02/05/10, 06:52 PM

or people who do!

Seriously, the argument of what is and isn't punk is becoming increasingly moot, especially considering the synthesis of sounds that made that first wave initially and all the splinter stuff that obstructed the original meaning. Punk was primarily aesthetic and ideology.

it's not my place to decide what's punk/not punk; i just feel bands like vivian girls, no age, wavves, etc are marketed as punk to kids who aren't involved in the general punk scene/community.

You're right, because listening to them for merits beyond whether they're punk/not punk is impossible.

i don't know what the hell this comment has to do with anything.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 07:01 PM

it's not my place to decide what's punk/not punk; i just feel bands like vivian girls, no age, wavves, etc are marketed as punk to kids who aren't involved in the general punk scene/community.

I'm not big on No Wave and Wavves is kinda boring, but what I like about Vivian Girls is that sense of nihilism that goes into lyrics like "bored so I might as well sleep with you" with hooks that sound like old Shaggs tracks drenched in reverb and distortion.

Hey, maybe they're being marketed toward kids who don't like Punk, I don't know, but I like quite a lot of Punk music and I also dig Vivian Girls. They're certainly not Punk like, say, Crass or The Ex or Punk like Negative Approach or Bad Brains, but they are pretty Punk in that lo-fi Garage sound that essentially served as the skeleton for the first wave in that Seeds, Red Krayola, Shaggs way. Fuck, Richard Hell's a fan of theirs.

Just saying, I'm a fan.

blebbio

02/05/10, 07:06 PM

Used to be really into them. Now, I don't listen to them much but still think they are pretty good.

Chromefox

02/05/10, 07:07 PM

Listening to the S/T right now. Doesn't seem to be my thing. Alas.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 07:08 PM

Used to be really into them. Now, I don't listen to them much but still think they are pretty good.

Maybe you get this a lot here or maybe you don't, but when I was 14, I listened to Saves the Day and swore by Your Favorite Weapon. You listen to better stuff than I did when I was in my early teens, so kudos (admittedly, I wasn't nearly as tech savvy).

Chromefox

02/05/10, 07:09 PM

I always feel a pang of shame when I see that someone who could be my younger sibling has even better taste than I do.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 07:11 PM

Listening to the S/T right now. Doesn't seem to be my thing. Alas.

At least you tried it. At least listen to Never See Me Again. That's the catchiest song (in my humble opinion, of course) on the album. If it doesn't grab you, then [sad trumpet whomp whomp sound here].

Chromefox

02/05/10, 07:14 PM

I'm definitely going to finish the album. Tell the World is pretty good. Oh, and Where Do You Run To is another pleasant surprise. I'll give a proper verdict once I'm done.

Chromefox

02/05/10, 07:28 PM

briewer

02/05/10, 07:34 PM

i don't know what the hell this comment has to do with anything.
What? Then how does your comment have to do with anything?

So Vivian Girls isn't punk, bfd, they're still enjoyable.

xJesusFreakx

02/05/10, 07:41 PM

Listening to the self-titled for the first time. Just noticed how short it is. Like it so far. The previous three statements are too punk rawk to be complete sentences.

Fuck him. I'll puke acid on his face.

That's so punk rawk.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 07:44 PM

Well I think I liked Damaged best, and the two I mentioned previously. The album definitely improved for me as it carried on, but in the end I don't imagine myself listening to it on a regular basis. When it comes down to it, I like pretty crisp production, and the gritty/sloppy aesthetic of punk* music isn't my thing, though I do recognize that cleaning it up would be a much worse thing to do to the music.

* May or may not be punk, but for all intents and purposes I use the word.

I like the production because it's virtually non-existent. The noise being slathered over each song just creates the illusion of some sort of tweaking, when it really takes up ugly space and makes you forget about the lack of bells and whistles.

What? Then how does your comment have to do with anything?

I think his point has legs, in that, they're among those low-fi/noisy hype blog-hype bands pushed out as Punk to kids who wouldn't necessarily care to hear the new Shitty Limbs record. It's indie-chic faux-Punk, and for No Age or Wavves, I could see it, but neither of those two have sloppy-yet-hooky shit-kicking chords and "this is all meaningless" lyrics with a tinge of self-aware self-loathing that Vivian Girls do. They just happen to have a lot of noise saturating their ode-to-The Squires sound. I don't think it's necessarily fair or apt to lump Vivian Girls in with those bands simply because Pitchfork gave them 7s and they also use a bunch of noise.

briewer

02/05/10, 07:49 PM

I think it his point has legs, in that, they're among those low-fi/noisy hype blog-hype bands pushed out as Punk to kids who wouldn't necessarily care to hear the new Shitty Limbs record. It's indie-chic faux-Punk, and for No Age or Wavves, I could see it, but neither of those two have sloppy-yet-hooky shit-kicking chords and "this is all meaningless" lyrics with a tinge of self-aware self-loathing that Vivian Girls do. They just happen to have a lot of noise saturating their ode-to-The Squires sound. I don't think it's necessarily fair or apt to lump Vivian Girls in with those bands simply because Pitchfork gave them 7s and they also use a bunch of noise.
I knew what he was saying, I just didn't get his confusion with my comment.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 07:50 PM

I knew what he was saying, I just didn't get his confusion with my comment.

Maybe he thinks you're cute.

briewer

02/05/10, 07:54 PM

Maybe he thinks you're cute.
I thought that at first too, but he's seems to punk rock to be shy about it.

kearn1tm

02/05/10, 08:03 PM

I thought that at first too, but he's seems to punk rock to be shy about it.

Shit Stroll is actually a pretty rad poster, but yeah, he's probably retarded for you and playing it shy. You can't be punk until you know you got the ass.

briewer

02/05/10, 08:07 PM

Shit Stroll is actually a pretty rad poster, but yeah, he's probably retarded for you and playing it shy. You can't be punk until you know you got the ass.
I've never had a problem with him before, there's just some major miscommunication going on right now.

shit stroll

02/05/10, 10:05 PM

I've never had a problem with him before, there's just some major miscommunication going on right now.
i'm pretty drunk and i guess i misunderstood your comment. i took it as you were implying that i said people shouldn't listen to/enjoy this band based on the fact i don't consider them to be a punk band.

IWasaCamera

02/06/10, 08:37 AM

I prefer Everything Goes Wrong really and I think it's better. I think it's a much more concentrated effort, despite the two sounding relatively similar. What it lacks in catchiness, it makes up in tighter instrumentals and more emotional range (in terms of lyric content).
Catchiness is all I look for from this band.