Abreu to the Yankees [Archive]

mat1419

07/17/06, 07:42 PM

Abreu is the Phillies ONE chance to upgrade the pitching staff in one fell swoop. The Yanks aren't willing to give their prospect away and have no other arms to trade. The Phils shouldn't even be answering the phone when they call.

fcknazisympathy

07/17/06, 07:42 PM

I think it would be a huge waste.

I don't see it happening, but if it does, whatever, Melky blows.

how does melky blow hes shown that hes got some athletic ability and has come up big in some clutch situations for us?
i dont want another slugger like abreu we need some guys who can slap the ball and get clutch singles like melky can

aloneatlastnj

07/17/06, 07:43 PM

abreu wont go to the yankees.

the yankees have lasted MONTHS without wasting money on an outfielder. sheffield and matsui will be back by august, and there's no need for abreu's lack of outfield skills and his horrendous contract added to our payroll. abreu may not stay where he is, but he certainly isnt coming to the yankees.

unwritten

07/17/06, 07:43 PM

We are going to be back soon...

bigmike

07/17/06, 07:45 PM

this is not happening.

fire on my lips

07/17/06, 07:47 PM

how does melky blow hes shown that hes got some athletic ability and has come up big in some clutch situations for us?
i dont want another slugger like abreu we need some guys who can slap the ball and get clutch singles like melky can
He makes error-rod look like an amazing fielder and he can't hit at a major league level. He's decent just because he's filling in. If the Yankees decide to use him on an everyday basis, ahead of Bubba, I won't be able to take it.
I'm hoping they somehow manage to sign Sori to play right for them next year.

hockey0001

07/17/06, 07:50 PM

i doubt it, Yankees dont need any help for their offense, they need pitching. Also, they have nothing to giveup to get him and what will they do when Sheffield and Matsui return? Someone among Damon/Matsui/Sheffield/Abreu will be wasted.

Jesse2

07/17/06, 07:51 PM

aloneatlastnj

07/17/06, 07:52 PM

He makes error-rod look like an amazing fielder and he can't hit at a major league level. He's decent just because he's filling in. If the Yankees decide to use him on an everyday basis, ahead of Bubba, I won't be able to take it.
I'm hoping they somehow manage to sign Sori to play right for them next year.

umm

where have you been?! he's been the everyday player for a long time now...

Jesse2

07/17/06, 07:53 PM

umm

where have you been?! he's been the everyday player for a long time now...

i'm guessing he doesn't watch many games

histrionics22

07/17/06, 08:12 PM

Melky sucks.

marrost

07/17/06, 08:17 PM

He makes error-rod look like an amazing fielder and he can't hit at a major league level. He's decent just because he's filling in. If the Yankees decide to use him on an everyday basis, ahead of Bubba, I won't be able to take it.
I'm hoping they somehow manage to sign Sori to play right for them next year.Melky has 1 error in his career and bats .278 to A-Rod's .287 you fucking dolt.

marrost

07/17/06, 08:22 PM

Melky sucks.God some Yankee fans are so fucking stupid that they can't recognize a young kid stepping up and doing his part around a team of "all-stars." We would be much deeper in 2nd place with Crosby playing every game. Fuck the Jays might even be ahead of us without Melky.

Broken Parachute

07/17/06, 08:24 PM

Melky sucks.
He's probably the Yankee who's stepped up most off the bench.

marrost

07/17/06, 08:26 PM

He's probably the Yankee who's stepped up most off the bench.Thanks, he might have missed my two posts.

xbrokendownx

07/17/06, 08:27 PM

i just got back from work, and the first thread i see is this one

fuck you for scaring me into thinking we acquired that useless piece of shit.

and melky doenst blow. sure, hes not an all star but dude is fine out there

jwizz928

07/17/06, 08:31 PM

i was actually thinking about starting this and then i saw it. Yeah the yanks get whoever they want. Oh well....

xbrokendownx

07/17/06, 08:53 PM

i want carlos lee

Dirty Ernie

07/17/06, 09:07 PM

phils need to trade 5 of the following 10 players...

myers
lieber
lidle
gordon
cormier
burrell
abreu
bell
lieberthal
delluci

mikeford

07/17/06, 09:39 PM

yeah uh. the yankees have no one to trade. they will be lucky to get anyone at the deadline unless they unload duncan or hughes.

fire on my lips

07/17/06, 10:01 PM

no WAY has bubba been playing better than melky this year.

he is near the league-lead in assists, and has had a bunch of key offensive/defensive plays.

if i had my way melky would stay in left when matsui came back, and matsui would dh, with sheff in right.

keep crosby to pinch run.
He scares the shit out of me in left field. Sure he has one error, but how many balls has he misjudged? How many balls has he misplayed of the wall? He's not comfortable in left field, which makes me uncomfortable having him out there, something that I see no need for after Matsui comes back. I'd prefer Matsui in left (wrist permitting), Sheff in right, Phillips at first and Giambi DHing.

Hell has offically frozen over, me and Hist22 agree about Melky. And like xbrokendownx, I want Carlos Lee too.

aloneatlastnj, I was refering to next season when we need to replace Sheff.

Melky has done well FILLING IN. He's done better than you can expect for someone who was definately shell shocked when he first got here. I don't like his lower than average fielding ability and his extremely erratic arm.

Split2nd

07/17/06, 10:17 PM

Did someone just call Bobby Abreu useless? Huh?

This thread is retarded. The Yanks have waited long enough to get Matsui and Sheff back. The Phils aren't getting Hughes, and that's the only way they'd deal him to the Yanks.

Jesse2

07/18/06, 04:34 AM

He scares the shit out of me in left field. Sure he has one error, but how many balls has he misjudged? How many balls has he misplayed of the wall? He's not comfortable in left field, which makes me uncomfortable having him out there, something that I see no need for after Matsui comes back. I'd prefer Matsui in left (wrist permitting), Sheff in right, Phillips at first and Giambi DHing.

the difference between melky and matsui is that when melky misjudges a ball he still catches it.

matsui's hat just falls off

unwritten

07/18/06, 05:10 AM

God some Yankee fans are so fucking stupid that they can't recognize a young kid stepping up and doing his part around a team of "all-stars." We would be much deeper in 2nd place with Crosby playing every game. Fuck the Jays might even be ahead of us without Melky.

I'm happy we have younger players stepping up. I'm tired of these old fucks. We need a young team.

thejetstolehome

07/18/06, 06:05 AM

the difference between melky and matsui is that when melky misjudges a ball he still catches it.

matsui's hat just falls off

haha this is very true. also, melky has much more range, better atheletic ablility, and a MUCH better arm than matsui. don't get me wrong, i love matsui and want him back in the lineup ASAP but you're right, keep melky in left and DH matsui. this way, if they decide not to re sign sheff, they can just use melky again next year instead of going out and spending an assload of money on another outfielder. i'd love to see the yankees start using their homegrown talent more and this is a perfect example. maybe he's not the best OF/hitter but this is his first full season in the major leagues. in a few years, he'll be a quality outfielder; he definitely has the potential for that.

and as for wanting carlos lee--no. what the yankees need is a starting pitcher, not another outfielder.

Jesse2

07/18/06, 06:33 AM

haha this is very true. also, melky has much more range, better atheletic ablility, and a MUCH better arm than matsui. don't get me wrong, i love matsui and want him back in the lineup ASAP but you're right, keep melky in left and DH matsui. this way, if they decide not to re sign sheff, they can just use melky again next year instead of going out and spending an assload of money on another outfielder. i'd love to see the yankees start using their homegrown talent more and this is a perfect example. maybe he's not the best OF/hitter but this is his first full season in the major leagues. in a few years, he'll be a quality outfielder; he definitely has the potential for that.

and as for wanting carlos lee--no. what the yankees need is a starting pitcher, not another outfielder.

if we trade for an offensive player i'll jump out the window

we are cured

07/18/06, 07:00 AM

i think it was wfan that reported that both the mets and the yankees are pursuing abreu.

both teams have more important needs.

justinevans

07/18/06, 07:49 AM

abreu won't be moved. he is asking for too much.

aloneatlastnj

07/18/06, 08:10 AM

i think it was wfan that reported that both the mets and the yankees are pursuing abreu.

both teams have more important needs.

1- the yankees dont need offense. they need pitching, whether it be the likes of dotel and pavano or in a trade.

2- i think everyone (everyone meaning mass media outlets and baseball fans alike) assumes that the yankees are going for abreu because the yankees always get 'the biggest names' for whatever money is needed to sign them. in all reality, i HIGHLY doubt that the yankees are considering abreu.

3- sheffield and matsui are weeks to a month away from returning to the team and like someone previously said, out of Cabrera/Crosby/Damon/Williams/Matsui/Sheffield/Abreu, 4 of those players' talents will be wasted, unless one is used in a DH situation.

4- cashman is always saying he doesnt make a move unless it 'makes sense'. the yankees have no one to possibly deal for someone like abreu, as cashman is on record as saying he's doing his best to rebuild the team's depleted farm system. dealing hughes, duncan, wang/cano/cabrera (products of the farm system) or that young venezuelan catcher they recently signed (who's supposedly the long term replacement for posada when his time is up) is not rebuilding anything.

unwritten

07/18/06, 08:19 AM

1- the yankees dont need offense. they need pitching, whether it be the likes of dotel and pavano or in a trade.

2- i think everyone (everyone meaning mass media outlets and baseball fans alike) assumes that the yankees are going for abreu because the yankees always get 'the biggest names' for whatever money is needed to sign them. in all reality, i HIGHLY doubt that the yankees are considering abreu.

3- sheffield and matsui are weeks to a month away from returning to the team and like someone previously said, out of Cabrera/Crosby/Damon/Williams/Matsui/Sheffield/Abreu, 4 of those players' talents will be wasted, unless one is used is a DH situation.

4- cashman is always saying he doesnt make a move unless it 'makes sense'. the yankees have no one to possibly deal for someone like abreu, as cashman is on record as saying he's doing his best to rebuild the team's depleted farm system. dealing hughes, duncan, wang/cano/cabrera (products of the farm system) or that young venezuelan catcher is not rebuilding anything.

Well said.

aloneatlastnj

07/18/06, 08:21 AM

i try :)

The Matt Kaufman

07/18/06, 08:24 AM

the mets dont need players who dont play hard all the time..see Jeff Kent and Bobby Bonilla for examples.

we are cured

07/18/06, 08:55 AM

the mets dont need players who dont play hard all the time..see Jeff Kent and Bobby Bonilla for examples.

haha bonilla

justinevans

07/18/06, 09:27 AM

1- the yankees dont need offense. they need pitching, whether it be the likes of dotel and pavano or in a trade.

2- i think everyone (everyone meaning mass media outlets and baseball fans alike) assumes that the yankees are going for abreu because the yankees always get 'the biggest names' for whatever money is needed to sign them. in all reality, i HIGHLY doubt that the yankees are considering abreu.

3- sheffield and matsui are weeks to a month away from returning to the team and like someone previously said, out of Cabrera/Crosby/Damon/Williams/Matsui/Sheffield/Abreu, 4 of those players' talents will be wasted, unless one is used in a DH situation.

4- cashman is always saying he doesnt make a move unless it 'makes sense'. the yankees have no one to possibly deal for someone like abreu, as cashman is on record as saying he's doing his best to rebuild the team's depleted farm system. dealing hughes, duncan, wang/cano/cabrera (products of the farm system) or that young venezuelan catcher they recently signed (who's supposedly the long term replacement for posada when his time is up) is not rebuilding anything.

dotel should be back next week.

The Matt Kaufman

07/18/06, 10:10 AM

dotel should be back next week.
dont hold your breath

justinevans

07/18/06, 10:31 AM

dont hold your breath

okay.

xbrokendownx

07/18/06, 10:39 AM

i know we dont need an OF, im just saying. if cashman were stupid enough to get one, id want it to be carlos lee.

but i know we need pitching

aloneatlastnj

07/18/06, 01:32 PM

i know we dont need an OF, im just saying. if cashman were stupid enough to get one, id want it to be carlos lee.

but i know we need pitching

theres no decent pitching available that wont come at a price of hughes/cabrera/cano/wang/duncan

xbrokendownx

07/18/06, 01:37 PM

theres no decent pitching available that wont come at a price of hughes/cabrera/cano/wang/duncan

they wont trade wang. hes our #3 starter right now, and hes ERA is under 4. ill take it

cabrera and duncan could go for all i care. cano, HELL NO. hes like my favorite player

hughes, who knows. i havent seen much of him but hes special supposedly.

when you think about it though, everyone always says how bad our farm system is cuz we traded everyone away. what prospects that they yankees have traded away ever amounted to anything anyways?

Split2nd

07/18/06, 01:37 PM

Lee would be smarter, as they wouldn't have a mammoth contract for an aging player, but I don't think the Brewers consider themselves out of it, especially with Sheets coming back in a week.

Still... could you imagine putting Abreu's .440 OBP in between Jeter's .420 and Giambi's .420?

thejetstolehome

07/18/06, 03:37 PM

if we trade for an offensive player i'll jump out the window

i'll be right behind you...:wacko:

hockey0001

07/18/06, 03:41 PM

i was actually thinking about starting this and then i saw it. Yeah the yanks get whoever they want. Oh well....

this is for you and everyone else who keeps saying that the Yankees alwaysget whoever they want: this is basically true for FA who want to go after the most amount of money, the amount of money that the yankees can spend does not play as much of a factor in trades. The Yankees have no one of value to trade that they are willing to get rid of. I highly doubt that the Yankees will be able to trade for Abreu or Soriano due to the fact that other teams will be able to offer up better packages. The only time that the Yankees payroll helps out in trades is when a team is trying to unload a terrible contract, and i do not believe that is the case with Abreu or Soriano.

histrionics22

07/18/06, 05:53 PM

melky is a decent bench player. nothing more

xearlynovemberx

07/18/06, 05:58 PM

hahah, i have a feeling youre wrong

baron162

07/18/06, 06:03 PM

what the hell would the yankees even give up to get abreu? their farm system is so depleted, i can't imagine them putting together a nice enough package for the phillies. then again, never doubt the combined powers of steinbrenner and cashman...

xbrokendownx

07/18/06, 06:07 PM

histrionics22

07/18/06, 06:13 PM

they wouldnt give up anything to get abreu because we dont fucking want him

ill say this again- to everyone that always makes fun of our farm system being so completely horrible, because we trade away a lot of prospects. find me a prospect the yankees have traded away that has ever been great? juan rivera, ....? anyone else? i mean, they havent given away any guys thaht turned into big players, so its reall ynot that big of a deal
Teams have learned over the last years not to trust the New York media touting their "prospects".

baron162

07/18/06, 06:15 PM

they wouldnt give up anything to get abreu because we dont fucking want him

ill say this again- to everyone that always makes fun of our farm system being so completely horrible, because we trade away a lot of prospects. find me a prospect the yankees have traded away that has ever been great? juan rivera, ....? anyone else? i mean, they havent given away any guys thaht turned into big players, so its reall ynot that big of a deal

might be too early to tell for some guys...dioner navarro, etc.

either way, doesn't say too much about yankee player development. not a lot of notable talent coming through the farm system recently outside of cano and soriano. jeter was a long time ago.

marrost

07/18/06, 11:03 PM

So, anyone want to talk shit on Melky a little more???

I'm starting to like this second string team haha.

Split2nd

07/18/06, 11:08 PM

Teams have learned over the last years not to trust the New York media touting their "prospects".
Naa not really... it's not like scouts make their judgments based on what the media says... the media doesn't know shit about prospects... the Yanks have Hughes and Tabata, neither of which are overhyped. My guess is both are untouchable unless Steinbrenner really does something stupid.

xbrokendownx

07/18/06, 11:10 PM

Naa not really... it's not like scouts make their judgments based on what the media says... the media doesn't know shit about prospects... the Yanks have Hughes and Tabata, neither of which are overhyped. My guess is both are untouchable unless Steinbrenner really does something stupid.

bingo, beat me to it

Split2nd

07/18/06, 11:17 PM

might be too early to tell for some guys...dioner navarro, etc.

either way, doesn't say too much about yankee player development. not a lot of notable talent coming through the farm system recently outside of cano and soriano. jeter was a long time ago.
That might be due to the fact that they lose a lot of their first round picks by signing Class A free agents (Giambi, Damon, Pavano, Wright, etc.). They don't lose many, so they don't gain any back, and don't get compensation picks. Obviously many big name players aren't picked in the first couple rounds, but it makes a huge difference in player development when you can pick early.