jacks mannequin vs. soco

[Ilovepoprock]

discuss.

[FOBPrettyNPunk]

SoCo hands down. North is one of my favorite albums of all-time.

[ky19]

SoCo for sure.

[Venona]

no question about it Something Corporate is better

[love2hateme]

i like them both alot but i still like soco better i really dont know why

[zizou1790]

SOCO but JM is by no means bad

[Vincewithouthee]

SoCo, easily. Plus, SoCo did Konstantine...my favorite song of all time.

[jpgretzky15]

both are great

but jack's

[tiny222]

I swear this hasn't been done before...

[irthesteve]

I swear this hasn't been done before...
i was just about to say that

[fedhed7]

JM. I never liked SoCo.

[Veritas11]

SoCo hands down. North is one of my favorite albums of all-time.

Agreed.

[Veritas11]

SOCO but JM is by no means bad

Agreed.

[shane hennessey]

the JM cd is catchy. not something id listen to every day but its decent. i dont like SOCO

[Ilovepoprock]

north vs. leaving through the window

discuss.

[Troggy]

i dont' like jacks mannequin at all. most of the songs are bland and i can only get into 1 or 2 of them. i have both of the soco albums and i like them both, they don't have to battle eachother since they are quite different.

[Juliana101]

Soco, Watch The Sky is a great song.

North > Leaving through the Window.

[Ilovepoprock]

leaving through the window > north

[tiny222]

i was just about to say that

You/we are awesome and stuff. ;)

[Fullcollapse3k]

Something Corporate by about five miles.

Leaving Through the Window or North > Everything In Transit

Konstantine > Any song he'll ever write under Jack's Mannequin

[boysdontcry17]

i dont like either

[TheByrus]

i couldn't really get into jack's mannequin.


but i still went to shows, because andrew is such a fantastic person.

[kshtoinks12]

Jack's baby, jack's. I can't get into anything pre-summer 05

[Fullcollapse3k]

I can't get into anything pre-summer 05

So anything before a year ago doesn't hit you?

[Broken Parachute]

I really liked Jack's Mannequin, but Something Corporate was alot better.

[x togepi x]

i may be the only something corporate fan in the world that doesn't think konstantine is one of their best songs. i mean yeah, I like it, but they put out way better.

i've never listened to the jack's mannequin cd all the way through, I've heard it all, but meh. it's okay.

[Ilovepoprock]

i may be the only something corporate fan in the world that doesn't think konstantine is one of their best songs. i mean yeah, I like it, but they put out way better.



THANK YOU, i usually dont say anything for fear of rape. I like konstantine, but there are WAY better songs.

i've never listened to the jack's mannequin cd all the way through, I've heard it all, but meh. it's okay.


go listen to "into the airwaves".

[x togepi x]

THANK YOU, i usually dont say anything for fear of rape. I like konstantine, but there are WAY better songs.


go listen to "into the airwaves".

i don't know, once i learned to play it on the piano, konstantine lost a lot of its wonder.

and I have the jack's cd...i've listened to it all. i just, don't know. i like it, i've just never listened to the whole thing at once.

[kshtoinks12]

So anything before a year ago doesn't hit you?There are a fair amount of exceptions, but yeah. I can't get into a lot of stuff that people jizz over on this site.

[Ilovepoprock]

well i think this is definitely an album you need to listen through to fully apreciatte it. It may be a little uncomfortable, but when you listen to it through you get a feel for what his life growing up in the town he loves was like. It's like all the songs complete eachother and that's why it is great. like the album says "this is a story".

everythign in transit>leaving through the window>north.

[jpgretzky15]

i don't know, once i learned to play it on the piano, konstantine lost a lot of its wonder.
.

i tried, but to no avail. i stink.

[falloutdrea19]

soco. favorite band.
konstantine. favorite song. EVER.
north > leaving through the window...as of today. it changes all the time. they are both GREAT albums.

jacks is good too, but there is no way in hell that they'll ever come close to soco.

[Ilovepoprock]

soco is also my favorite but i still say everything in transit is the best work andrew has ever done.

[irthesteve]

everything in transit=leaving through the window>north

eit is easily the best music he has ever created, but lttw has such that perfect pop-punk sound that makes it perfect for diffrent reasons

[Ilovepoprock]

everything in transit=leaving through the window>north

eit is easily the best music he has ever created, but lttw has such that perfect pop-punk sound that makes it perfect for diffrent reasons

the thing about that is lltw is basically a compilation of their best songs over the past 6 years (plus some new awesome ones). It was so well developed it was of course amazing, not to mention andrew mcmahon being awesome. But everything in transit started out beign 6 random ass songs he recorded just because he wrote them in his off time. So yes it's hard to compare, but i stick with everything in transit.

[konstantine94]

I think LTTW is the best, but everything Andrew touches turns to gold if you ask me, I would really love to see SC live before I die though.

[Branevember31]

north vs. leaving through the window

discuss.


north...every song is very good. leaving through the window has some awful songs. If you c jordan might be the worst song of all time.

[Ilovepoprock]

she paints me blue, down, and break myself i think are annoying and boring. If U C Jordan is a okay song.

[irthesteve]

she paints me blue, down, and break myself i think are annoying and boring. If U C Jordan is a okay song.
ummm... she paints me blue is one of their best songs. bad argument...

[konstantine94]

If UC Jordan makes me laugh hysterically. The piano in the beginning is cool. I love She Paints Me Blue

[Ilovepoprock]

to me If U C Jordan is a fun pop-rock song, nothing more. And she painst me blue is too over-thought.

[TheVinylQueen]

hmm... this one's tough.
but i like how in EIT, it seems like andrew's song writing seems to have matured.
i honestly can't even compare the two.
they're two totally different bands to me.

[Branevember31]

i think everything in transit is probably the best cd hes ever written, but i get a lot more enjoyment out of SoCo

[Branevember31]

to me If U C Jordan is a fun pop-rock song, nothing more. And she painst me blue is too over-thought.



lol i think "If U C Jordan" is the worst song by a band i really like

[nivek87]

i think andrews music has gotten better and better each record, so im going go with JM

and for the record, konstantine is one of the worst songs ever. its not cute, its not beautiful, it sucks. however, all of the other music SoCo and JM have released.

[Branevember31]

i think andrews music has gotten better and better each record, so im going go with JM

and for the record, konstantine is one of the worst songs ever. its not cute, its not beautiful, it sucks. however, all of the other music SoCo and JM have released.



woah woah woah

dont even start that shit

[Ilovepoprock]

konstantine is a very good song.

[irthesteve]

i think andrews music has gotten better and better each record, so im going go with JM

and for the record, konstantine is one of the worst songs ever. its not cute, its not beautiful, it sucks. however, all of the other music SoCo and JM have released.
wow, this is a side of you i havn't seen before, and frankly... i don't like it!!!!

[fedhed7]

everything in transit=leaving through the window>north

eit is easily the best music he has ever created, but lttw has such that perfect pop-punk sound that makes it perfect for diffrent reasonsBingo.

[fedhed7]

i think andrews music has gotten better and better each record, so im going go with JM

and for the record, konstantine is one of the worst songs ever. its not cute, its not beautiful, it sucks. however, all of the other music SoCo and JM have released.I knew I liked you for a reason. I dislike Konstantine greatly. It's hard for me to listen straight through.

And Jack's Mannequin is better than Something Corporate.

Lyrically, JM blows SoCo out of the water. Seriously. Often, SoCo lyrics are cheesy.
Musically, JM is superior to SoCo.
However, most people will always prefer SoCo for the emotional attachment. Oh well.

[myaimistruex3]

I knew I liked you for a reason. I dislike Konstantine greatly. It's hard for me to listen straight through.

And Jack's Mannequin is better than Something Corporate.

Lyrically, JM blows SoCo out of the water. Seriously. Often, SoCo lyrics are cheesy.
Musically, JM is superior to SoCo.
However, most people will always prefer SoCo for the emotional attachment. Oh well.

agreed.
SoCo lyrics are cheesy most of the time.
i'm going with jack's mannequin.

[uhaul610]

I knew I liked you for a reason. I dislike Konstantine greatly. It's hard for me to listen straight through.

And Jack's Mannequin is better than Something Corporate.

Lyrically, JM blows SoCo out of the water. Seriously. Often, SoCo lyrics are cheesy.
Musically, JM is superior to SoCo.
However, most people will always prefer SoCo for the emotional attachment. Oh well.

i completely agree

[nivek87]

I knew I liked you for a reason. I dislike Konstantine greatly. It's hard for me to listen straight through.

And Jack's Mannequin is better than Something Corporate.

Lyrically, JM blows SoCo out of the water. Seriously. Often, SoCo lyrics are cheesy.
Musically, JM is superior to SoCo.
However, most people will always prefer SoCo for the emotional attachment. Oh well.

High fucking five adam, thats what im talking about

[nivek87]

wow, this is a side of you i havn't seen before, and frankly... i don't like it!!!!

sorry steve, ill try to avoid bringing that side out aroudn you. however, there is something about that song that just grinds my gears!

[irthesteve]

sorry steve, ill try to avoid bringing that side out aroudn you. however, there is something about that song that just grinds my gears!
see it live, you might change your mind.

[Ilovepoprock]

you're right about everything else, except konstantine is a good song. Everything In Transit is better than any SoCo release.

[luvmusic1017]

Jacks is amazing but come on, soco is the original! they r awesome!

[hazyrain62]

Jack's is good. But I like SoCo better. I listen to Everything in Transit all the time, but I get tired of it easily. I never get tired of North or Leaving Through the Window.

[Branevember31]

Jack's is good. But I like SoCo better. I listen to Everything in Transit all the time, but I get tired of it easily. I never get tired of North or Leaving Through the Window.


i never get tired of any of them...EIT is better in most of parts of music, but for some reason i like SoCo more...my favorite songs by him are "Konstantine" and "Rescued"

[TheByrus]

soco, ftw

[Ilovepoprock]

what the hell does ftw mean?

[myaimistruex3]

what the hell does ftw mean?

For the win...

And Jack's Mannequin > SoCo. I like both, but I tend to enjoy Jack's Mannequin more. I hope Andrew sticks with that project consistently...some new material would be awesome.

[Cue the Sun]

soco > jm

[Ilovepoprock]

For the win...

And Jack's Mannequin > SoCo. I like both, but I tend to enjoy Jack's Mannequin more. I hope Andrew sticks with that project consistently...some new material would be awesome.

well, jacks will be recording one other album, then andrew will probably get back to something corporate. He better, i have to see them live before i die. if i die...

[watchthesky07]

I saw JM play last night (they were amazing) and They also played "Me and the Moon" for an encore...so it was pretty much the best of both worlds there

[lostfear]

SoCo hands down.

Straw Dog, Hurricane, Down, Letters to Noelle oh man such good songs.

I enjoyed JM much though. just because it was Andrew.

[irthesteve]

I saw JM play last night (they were amazing) and They also played "Me and the Moon" for an encore...so it was pretty much the best of both worlds there
thats awesome

[Ilovepoprock]

I heard they have been alternating encoring ‘me and the moon’ and ‘cavanaugh park’…

[TheBaroness]

JM is a hundred times better than SOCO. I can't stand SOCO but I love JM.

[Ilovepoprock]

JM is a hundred times better than SOCO. I can't stand SOCO but I love JM.

watch yo mouth...

[yo la tengo!]

SoCo, easily.
And North > leaving through the window, though i love both.

[Freakx45]

I would have to go with SoCo. JM is awesome but I love SoCo's lyrics. It would be awesome if both can go on tour and then we can get the best of both worlds.

[Ilovepoprock]

SoCo, easily.
And North > leaving through the window, though i love both.

your crazy, lttw>north times a billion

[x togepi x]

north is way more consistent than leaving through a window but leaving through a window has better songs.

[Ilovepoprock]

north is way more consistent than leaving through a window but leaving through a window has better songs.

i agree, leaving through the window is kidna all over the place, just because it had a bunch of songs from other previous EP's. But like you said, lttw still has better songs.

[luvmusic1017]

Jacks is awesome but handsdown i would have to say SoCO. and as for north or leaving through the window....i would say leaving through the window!

[golfchick]

Something Corporate for me.. just means so much more, I used to listen to Leaving Through The Window all the time and with Konstantine on the side. Jack's Mannequin is fun and all but I don't think I'll ever get as into to it.

[petey536]

depends on the current mood, i mean lately its been jacks but no matter what i am always in the mood for soco

[funkel]

SoCo > JM

Jack's Mannequin is amazing, but Something Corporate is miles and miles above it. I mean nothing Andrew does under Jack's can ever compare to Konstantine. Never.

As for best SoCo album:

Leaving Through the Window > North
Hands down, better, yet North still is amazing.

[Ilovepoprock]

SoCo > JM

Jack's Mannequin is amazing, but Something Corporate is miles and miles above it. I mean nothing Andrew does under Jack's can ever compare to Konstantine. Never.

As for best SoCo album:

Leaving Through the Window > North
Hands down, better, yet North still is amazing.

rescued>konstantine (and many others on the album))

[funkel]

rescued>konstantine (and many others on the album))
Your oppinion, not mine.

Although Rescued is my favorite Jack's Mannequin song.

[luvmusic1017]

I agree, jacks is awesome. But SoCo takes the cake for me, hands down. You cant beat that, i still enjoy every soco see ever, but my fave was north, although leaving through the window will always be a classic.

[wingsofhim]

have you guys heard William Tell yet? that's Will and Brian Ireland's new project - pretty cool. still more of a soco fan than jack's though :)

[aaronislegend]

first off anything andrew does is genius,but as far as jm or soco,i have to say something corporate i fell in love with something corporate back when the audioboxer ep came out and i absolutley love andrew and something corporate,jacks mannequin is good but nothing is better than something corporate,and as far as north or leaving throught the window,ill have to say leaving through the window,so many good songs on that album

heres a list of my fav song

soco:
1.walking by
2.ben franklins kite
3.i woke up in a car
4.konstantine
5.cavanaugh park

jm:
1.dark blue
2.rescued
3.you can breathe
4.bruised
5.miss delaney

what do you guys think?

[Ilovepoprock]

heres a list of my fav song

soco:
1.walking by
2.ben franklins kite
3.i woke up in a car
4.konstantine
5.cavanaugh park

jm:
1.dark blue
2.rescued
3.you can breathe
4.bruised
5.miss delaney

what do you guys think?

its all good. but then again i dont think andrew has written a song i dont like, maybe some off north. I am really suprised Miss Delaney is in your top 5.

soco:
1.fall
2.if i die
3.little
4.watch the sky
5.bad days

jm:
1.into the airwaves (easily the best song he has ever written)
2.bruised
3.MFEO/You Can Breathe
4.Holiday From Real
5.I'm ready

Everybpdy post their top 5 from both bands.

[rocktometal]

i love both, but ive got to go with jack's mannequin it is so close though i could just as easily say soco.
soco
1. cavanaugh park (the lyrics are awsome)
2.i won't make you
3.only ashes
4.not what it seems
5.ruthless
damn that was hard.
jm:
1.bruised
2.miss delaney
3.mixed tape
4.into the airwaves(i love the intro to this song, whenever i hear it i want to start playin piano)
5.holiday from real
i thought about mixed tape for number one, bacause its one of those songs that makes you think back, but i liked bruised better overall.
as far as miss delaney i just really like that song too, there is something whimsical about it for me, i dont know 'everything in transit' has to be the ultimate rememberance cd, at least for me-it always makes me look back.
only song of his i dont like-globes and maps i guess it was too slow for me.

[Branevember31]

alright ill do it too...

SoCo:
1. Konstantine
2. Hurricane
3. I Woke Up In A Car
4. Down
5. Cavanaugh Park

JM:
1. Rescued
2. Holiday From Real
3. Miss Delaney
4. Bruised
5. Kill The Messenger


i thought globes and maps was ok...the only song i dont like is If U C Jordan.

[Branevember31]

rescued>konstantine (and many others on the album))


i go back and forth on them...my two favorites

[Ilovepoprock]

i thought globes and maps was ok...the only song i dont like is If U C Jordan.

if U C Jordan is probably one of the worst singles ever, let alone worst soco single. I still think it's an alright song though.

[Ilovepoprock]

im really suprised by all the love for miss delaney i thought it was easily the worst jacks song.

[CorporateFish]

I miss soco so damn much.

[Cue the Sun]

I miss soco so damn much.
Yeah... I wish I could have gone to Bamboozle Left :-(

[Ilovepoprock]

word has it, they will be playing some dates together...

[Cue the Sun]

word has it, they will be playing some dates together...
I really, really hope so

[rocktometal]

me too

[goldfishy12356]

something corporate. leaving through the window is amazing. one of my most favorite cds ever.

[goldfishy12356]

I miss soco so damn much.


i heard they're putting a new album together in the near future. at least that what i heard in this interview thing w/ andrew on youtube. i miss soco too. he always manages to play a few soco songs at his jack's mannequin shows, but it's not the same.

[Distraction]

definately soco. i mean, jack's mannequin is amazing, but i can relate to soco songs more, also there are more soco CDs to listen to :-)

[rockstargallery]

Everything Andrew does is amazing, whether its SOCO, Jacks, or helping out on Tommy's record. The fact that he has come through his illness, to come back so strong, and chosen to return to Jacks as his main focus, should mean all SOCO fans should be standing behind him. Not dismissing it as not as good. Artists grow and change and follow different paths, and he deserves everyone's support down any path he wants to go.

[Branevember31]

Everything Andrew does is amazing, whether its SOCO, Jacks, or helping out on Tommy's record. The fact that he has come through his illness, to come back so strong, and chosen to return to Jacks as his main focus, should mean all SOCO fans should be standing behind him. Not dismissing it as not as good. Artists grow and change and follow different paths, and he deserves everyone's support down any path he wants to go.


i dont feel that its not as good, because i think that Everything In Transit is by far the best cd he has ever written. but, i have almost an emotional attachment to SoCo, and i would really like to see more from them

[XfalloutgurlX]

Soco is wat better. Anyone heard William Tell?

[thesesummrscars]

soco will always be one of my favorite bands of all time. I do like JM but I can't get into it like I did SoCo, they put on an AMAZING show when I saw them 3 years ago.

[paranoiabombs]

Something Corporate. Count me in with missing them. I missed them the last time they came to Atlanta, obviously not knowing that it would be the last time. I've got my fingers crossed hoping for another tour. Luckily, I caught JM when they were here in May. It was an amazing show, but I still have a stronger attachment to SoCo.

[simplyme]

Soco. I love North, I just couldn't get into JM as much, though I do like them

Soco
1.Ruthless
2.Konstantine
3.Only Ashes
4.Down
5.Punk Rock Princess(its catchy, I can't help but love it)

Jm
1.Kill The Messanger
2.Bruised
3.MFEO/You Can Breath
4.Dark Blue
5.Mixed Tape

[brushedred]

jacks is catchy and fun, but soco's a legend

SoCo:
1. Forget December
2. Konstantine
3. I Woke Up In A Car
4. Me and The Moon
5. Watch The Sky

JM:
1. Bruised
2. Last Straw
3. Dark Blue
4. Miss Delaney
6. La La Lie

[falloutdrea19]

jacks is catchy and fun, but soco's a legend

SoCo:
1. Forget December
2. Konstantine
3. I Woke Up In A Car
4. Me and The Moon
5. Watch The Sky

JM:
1. Bruised
2. Last Straw
3. Dark Blue
4. Miss Delaney
6. La La Lie

definitely.

[madisonavenue]

soco's been my favorite band for years and i totally miss them, but jack's is (almost) just as good. basically andrew is a musical genius and anything he does will be my favorite.

[Distraction]

i may end up liking jm more when theres more records out, but for now its definately soco. i know it better and i feel like i can relate to it more.

[shaki324]

no matter how many times i'm asked this, i always say the same thing:

i support andrew mcmahon. i think both bands are incredibly talented and i will forver support both with all my heart. i'll have my moods when i listen to one more than the other, but at the end of the day i'll still never choose. i doubt andrew would want us to.

[Branevember31]

no matter how many times i'm asked this, i always say the same thing:

i support andrew mcmahon. i think both bands are incredibly talented and i will forver support both with all my heart. i'll have my moods when i listen to one more than the other, but at the end of the day i'll still never choose. i doubt andrew would want us to.



i agree with this

[TheGetUpKidette]

no matter how many times i'm asked this, i always say the same thing:

i support andrew mcmahon. i think both bands are incredibly talented and i will forver support both with all my heart. i'll have my moods when i listen to one more than the other, but at the end of the day i'll still never choose. i doubt andrew would want us to.
i agree too. i dont see one as better

[atticus1492]

soco. only for konstantine.

[Ilovepoprock]

soco. only for konstantine.

Konstantine is not that great!

[Cue the Sun]

Konstantine is not that great!
:-0 That song is amazing!

[goldfishy12356]

Konstantine is not that great!


sinner! i love that song.

[iihungrieii]

JM no doubt

[iihungrieii]

SoCo
1) Hurricane
2) Watch The Sky
3) Globes and Maps
4) I Woke Up In a Car
5) Konstantine

JM
1) I'm Ready
2) MFEO/ You Can Breathe
3) La La Lie
4) Dark Blue
5) Bruised

[wearitloud]

I've gotta stick with SoCo.
I love them both, though.

[wearitloud]

Konstantine is not that great!

HAHAHAHA.
More people need to hear that.
While it is an amazing song, both lyrically and with it's music, it's getting to be overrated. The band has put out better songs.

[Ilovepoprock]

HAHAHAHA.
More people need to hear that.
While it is an amazing song, both lyrically and with it's music, it's getting to be overrated. The band has put out better songs.

Thank you. Soco has many many song that are much better.

[xmy.only.exitx]

jm is hands down better.......only song of soco's i like is konstantine

[ascitiesburn101]

SoCo, but JM only has one album out so they aren't really comparable.

[Tenn]

I got into JM before I got into SoCo, but I think they're both about equal.

[xxmannequin]

jack's mannequin. the songs have more meaning and depth, the lyrics are way better. andrew is older and really finding himself musically in jack's mannequin, vs. his post high school writings in soco. don't get me wrong, i love soco, i'm listening to them as i type this. but jack's mannequin will always be my favorite.

[xxmannequin]

Something Corporate by about five miles.

Leaving Through the Window or North > Everything In Transit

Konstantine > Any song he'll ever write under Jack's Mannequin


just because it's under the name jacks mannequin doesn't mean anything. you can't say he'll never write a song better than konstantine just because it's under jack's mannequin.

[Posthardcore]

SoCo is waaay better!

[Joecandelaria]

Jack's Mannequin hands down. I mean Something corporate is also an amazing band but, to be honest J.M especially via "Everything In Transit" is just like a culmination of all his previous efforts into one disc that will surly stand the test of time. Then again this album has huge emotional value to me so I could be bias. "Konstantine" is a great song in the same so is "W.M.F.O.E parts1&2" I just think J.M is just andy with his heart on his sleeve balls out kinda thing. The new disc is fucking phenomenal btw.

[boxingwithstars]

i would have definitely said SoCo before TGP was released, but i think the new album includes some of his best work ever. i will always have a special place in my heart for SoCo, and i hope they put together a reunion of sorts in the future because i never got the chance to see them live, but i would be content if it was just a tour and they didn't release any new music because i love the music andrew is making right now.

and i will never understand why so many people think konstantine is the best song he's ever written. it's a great song considering the fact that he wrote it when he was like 17 years old, but the music he is making now is much more developed and less juvenile than konstantine or anything else he wrote in the ready...break era.