Your favorite Taking Back Sunday album?

[Carpathia]

So New Again came out June 1st. At the time, many loved it, many hated it.

Eight full months after its release, how are we all feeling about it?

From the cover, to the title, to the sound, everyone on ap.net seemed to have an opinion.

Personally, I think it has lasting value, and has stood up against their other work. This is coming from someone who does love their first album, but not like the average ap.net user who generally places it as the scene's holy grail.

New Again received generally favorable reviews from critics, acquiring an aggregrated metascore of 77% on review accumulator Metacritic.[16] Scott Heisel of Alternative Press praised the record highly, stating that it "leaps forward as the best album of Taking Back Sunday's career to date".[2] For Matthew Niner of Pop Matters, "they have produced another solid album that cements their reputation as one of the most genuinely affecting and consistent bands in the current scene".[6] Alternative Press named it the number one album of the year 2009. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Again)

The general reception has been overall positive, but I'm curious to read your thoughts.

PS: Please don't post if you're going to complain about Taking Back Sunday, the number of times they are discussed on the site, or how overrated they are. I like them, and so do plenty of others. If you have a legit negative criticism of the album though, I'd love to hear it, just no trolling please.

[BadRomance]

I find New Again their weakest effort.


IMO their best (and probably only really good) effort is "Tell All Your Friends". However "Louder Now" comes close.

[HometownHero]

Lol at this poll

[ActorInThisPlay]

haha this should be a landslide

[xapplexpiex]

Tell All Your Friends. Hands down.

[Max_123]

what's with all these new people making polls for questions that have been answered many times on this site....

[roughroads]

Is this even a question?
Anyone who doesn't vote TAYF is retarded.
I love Taking Back Sunday but they've been getting progressively worse.
TAYF > WYWTB > Louder Now > New Again
Edit: I loved, or at least liked, every TBS release, but New Again was my limit. Major disappointment.

[DryEarth]

This will be extremely one sided..

[Carpathia]

Say what you will about New Again or any of their other albums, but they surely still have it. Winter Passing (http://www.takingbacksunday.com/store/product/winter-passing-digital-download), their just released New Again's b-side (REALLY just released, like half hour ago) is AMAZING.

[seraph1214]

WYWTB > Louder Now > TAYF > New Again

[Carpathia]

On topic:

New Again > TAYF > WYWTB > Louder Now

[Machu505]

:-d

[Neo Cassady]

TAYF > WYWTB >>>>>>>>>> Louder Now ? New Again (haven't bothered to listen)

[ActorInThisPlay]

TAYF >>> Louder Now > WYWTB >>>>>>>>>> New Again

[spevin]

tell all your friends, hands fucking down.


one of the best live shows back then too. saw them with brand new in dallas. jesse sang theres no i in team with them, and it was amazing. no one knew brand new back then either (weird looking back on that now)

[WhoSaidThat?]

Time has passed, and I still hate this album outside of two tracks.

[roberthuston]

One word to describe the New Again album: pathetic.

And wow, Alternative Press did that?! Wow, I remember that magazine just going down hill into 100% bullshit hype on the emo culture, but to that degree? Wow. Man, to name it album of the year.

And I enjoy what @carpathia states in his Post Script. Yes, I am complaining. But. Here are my thoughts. Tell All Your Friends will always be in my ears. Love it. The next album was depressing, but had about four good songs on it. Louder Now, I thought was much better than Where You Want To Be. Much better, as in song structure and vocals. Adam seemed to have more of a presence and attitude in Louder Now.

But, New Again, was just so mainstream, emo-predictable. This album only has one good song on it, but the lyrics aren't as powerful. That song is, Carpathia. But I just can't get into the album at all. There is no originality with it. Pop, punk, repetitive chorus, rhythms and structures. Most of the songs, I could hear a twenty-second clip and, then pretty move on. The rest of the is so repetitive its offensive.

[FueledByRock]

Tell All Your Friends, not even a question. I'm not sure what response you were looking for from AP.

[c_rob2700]

Swt thread, Noah.

Good music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>......
Where You Want To Be > half of Louder Now > Tell All Your Friends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other half of Louder Now > New Again

[davehennessy]

Tell All Your Friends is the only TBS album worth anyone's time

[Carpathia]

Tell All Your Friends, not even a question. I'm not sure what response you were looking for from AP.

Of course I knew that would praise TAYF to no end. I actually think it's well deservedly, albeit overrated, but I'm curious about how many others like their newest albums better.

[xJesusFreakx]

Tell All Your Friends is my favorite, followed by New Again. I'm completely bored by both other albums.

[BadRomance]

Of course I knew that would praise TAYF to no end. I actually think it's well deservedly, albeit overrated, but I'm curious about how many others like their newest albums better.
The band as a whole is generally overrated, TAYF is their best work, but it is still far from a classic.

[Carpathia]

Tell All Your Friends is my favorite, followed by New Again. I'm completely bored by both other albums.

Recently I feel this way too, minus some songs like 180 by Summer, Set The Phasers To Stun, The Union, Miami and Spin.

[xJesusFreakx]

Recently I feel this way too, minus some songs like 180 by Summer, Set The Phasers To Stun, The Union, Miami and Spin.

I've just always felt like those middle albums are watered down versions of TAYF. They offer me nothing that the first album doesn't offer better. New Again is at least respectable because of how (relatively) different it is. It may be rather inconsistent, but at least it's not a weaker version of their debut.

[Carpathia]

I've just always felt like those middle albums are watered down versions of TAYF. They offer me nothing that the first album doesn't offer better. New Again is at least respectable because of how (relatively) different it is. It may be rather inconsistent, but at least it's not a weaker version of their debut.

Check out "Winter Passing" and prepare yourself to be amazed.

[wakted152]

where you want to be is my most favorite album of all time. it seriously changed my life. i don't understand how no one likes it as much as tayf. its pretty much the same thing just they improved on the emo/alt side of things. adam's singing is amazing in that album.

louder now is good but doesnt have as much staying power with me

also new again is amazing but no one gives it a chance. they've matured and their sound really shows it. i couldnt be happier with it (unless matt fazzi sang more lol)

ps. winter passing is soooo good. everyone should go buy it right now

[CalRahhh]

Wherever You Want To Be is my favourite, since it's the most consistent in terms of songs I really like. TAYF has a few amazing tracks, and then a bunch of good to decent ones. Louder Now has one or two great tracks, then the rest are mediocre. Haven't ever listened to New Again.

[TheBestBet]

This should be a landslide.

[LastDeclaration]

Where You Want to Be is my favorite, though I enjoy all of their albums to a certain extent. And I think we've established that a person's favorite TBS album pretty much entirely depends on when you started listening to them (i.e., which album you heard first).

[x1onexwo1fx]

you like taking back sunday. awesome. you like new again. more power to you. why make a thread about it? no one's opinion is going to suddenly change about the album, and even if it had, tell all your friends is still going to win the poll no matter what. eight months is nothing to fret about.

edit: why isn't this in the poll forum?

[Carpathia]

you like taking back sunday. awesome. you like new again. more power to you. why make a thread about it? no one's opinion is going to suddenly change about the album, and even if it had, tell all your friends is still going to win the poll no matter what. eight months is nothing to fret about.

edit: why isn't this in the poll forum?

Because there's a pool about Daisy/BN in the Music forum and I thought it was fitting to have a New Again/TBS one.

[x1onexwo1fx]

Because there's a pool about Daisy/BN in the Music forum and I thought it was fitting to have a New Again/TBS one.

okay, maybe i'm asking the wrong person, then. le sigh.

[Ghostpsalm]

this isn't ap.net or anything

[atticus18244fss]

All are good in a different way.

[fran.182]

New Again is easily my favorite.

[Christrings]

Tough call between the first three but I'd prob go with Louder Now.

[denissuxx]

TAYF >>> Louder Now > WYWTB >>>>>>>>>> New Again

this

[(penguin)]

tell all your friends, hands fucking down.


one of the best live shows back then too. saw them with brand new in dallas. jesse sang theres no i in team with them, and it was amazing. no one knew brand new back then either (weird looking back on that now)

Wow.

That would have been amazing.

As for my favourite TBS record... well that's like choosing between brunettes & blondes or chocolate & cookies and cream ice-cream.

As soon as I hear the first inkling of guitar on each of the first three my mood instantly lifts. I then take the drums in my stride and within moments I'm in musical heaven. Every time.

If I absolutely had to choose, I would probably have to go with Louder Now. That may (probably will) change tomorrow, though.

[fadedmemories]

Tell All Your Friends, and it's not even close.

[(penguin)]

Tell All Your Friends, and it's not even close.

You must admit that tracks like 'Set Phasers to Stun', 'Error: Operator' and 'Sink Into Me' are quality, quality tracks.

But yes, a few amazing tracks don't make an amazing record. In my opinion however those records are amazing.

[fadedmemories]

You must admit that tracks like 'Set Phasers to Stun', 'Error: Operator' and 'Sink Into Me' are quality, quality tracks.

But yes, a few amazing tracks don't make an amazing record. In my opinion however those records are amazing.
I like Set Phasers to Stun, I don't mind Sink Into me, and I hate Error: Operator. The last three albums had some tracks that showed us flashes of what the whole album could've been. Regardless, I still like TAYF; musically and because of memories attached to it.

[andyball2311]

I really enjoy all of the TBS albums, but I don't understand the love for Tell All Your Friends. Half of the album (Cute Without, You're so Last Summer, Timberwolves, the Blue Channel, and Romances) is amazing probably some of the best songs they have and still they best songs when played live. But the other half is weaker than their other albums. Cute Without the E will always be my favorite TBS song, but as far as whole albums go I would rank them New Again>Where You Want to Be>Tell All Your Friends>Louder Now. Anyone that hates New Again is entitled to their opinion, but Swing and Everything Must go are two of the best songs TBS has ever put out, especially live.

[SophGod]

Really hard to say. I love both TAYF and WWYTB exactly the same. So i went with WWYTB, so i would be in the minority.

[Macbeth.]

New Again shouldn't be in the running, its not the same band. I love it as a record, but hate it as a TBS record - its just a "New" sound.

With that said, TAYF destroys all

[drawndead]

Tell All Your Friends followed by Where You Want To Be followed by Louder Now followed by New Again

[broaddplease]

WYWTB is my favorite, I love all but 2 songs on that cd..I like all the songs on New Again; but I dont love any of them. I love half of Louder Now and just like the other half. & I love more songs on TAYF than I dislike.

[RushAndAPush]

Is there an option for none?

[LGFUAD21]

my favourite is and will always be where you want to be, i remember the exact date time and where i bought it, although i did already own a copy of tell it to your friends this one stands out for its better production and the fact i was geared up for buying it for so long before it came out

I love everything taking back sunday have ever released the pure emo of tityf (remember when contemporary emo bands were good). I like the more polished "emo" of wywtb and the straightforward commercial rock of louder now. all stand out for the brilliance of theur songs even if the sound did become more mainstream you cant deny their skill for penning a tune.

I know so many people who gave up on them after louder now which pisses me off because its so elitist (omg they are more popular now i cant like them anymore) its bullshit. Music should never be judged on popularity but unfortunately it is so often these days.

I personally really enjoy new again, its really just an extension of louder now but its got a bit more bite in the overall sound

[Nourez]

Tell All Your Friends is the only one I can stand to listen to every now and then.

[anamericangod]

New Again is still a pile of shit.

Hasn't this thread been made 20 times already?

[Carpathia]

I really enjoy all of the TBS albums, but I don't understand the love for Tell All Your Friends. Half of the album (Cute Without, You're so Last Summer, Timberwolves, the Blue Channel, and Romances) is amazing probably some of the best songs they have and still they best songs when played live. But the other half is weaker than their other albums. Cute Without the E will always be my favorite TBS song, but as far as whole albums go I would rank them New Again>Where You Want to Be>Tell All Your Friends>Louder Now. Anyone that hates New Again is entitled to their opinion, but Swing and Everything Must go are two of the best songs TBS has ever put out, especially live.

Even though I love TAYF, I agree with you. I'd add Cut Me Up Jenny, Capital M-E and Carpathia as some of the best songs TBS has ever put out too.

And I'd kill for them to play Winter Passing at some of their shows.

[wakted152]

Even though I love TAYF, I agree with you. I'd add Cut Me Up Jenny, Capital M-E and Carpathia as some of the best songs TBS has ever put out too.

And I'd kill for them to play Winter Passing at some of their shows.

thank u because capital m-e is super underrated

[npmshah]

Louder Now>TAYF>>>WYWTB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....>>>>>>>..>>>>>>>>....>>>>>>>>>>>New Again

[live.]

New Again is okay. I'm sick of TBS in general to be completely honest. I haven't been able to get through TAYF in the longest time.

[Antics]

There is only one album by TBS, Tell All Your Friends.

The rest are just by a cover band with a couple of the members.

[SolitaryBlue]

Tell All Your Friends. I think the band started going downhill
when John Nolan left.

[Formatfun]

I like TAYF the most, because it's the best. I've enjoyed them all though.
I think New Again is my 2nd favorite...

[(penguin)]

There is only one album by TBS, Tell All Your Friends.

The rest are just by a cover band with a couple of the members.

You are an idiot.

[Carpathia]

I like TAYF the most, because it's the best. I've enjoyed them all though.
I think New Again is my 2nd favorite...
I'm enjoying to see New Again getting some love from the ap.net gang. It's well deserved. :-d

[Paulb-182]

Is there even a point to this poll at this point in time

[shortone1320]

definitely Tell All Your Friends!!!! the bickering back and forth with Brand New thtough their music was awesome!!!!

[(penguin)]

definitely Tell All Your Friends!!!! the bickering back and forth with Brand New thtough their music was awesome!!!!

The bickering was fairly interesting - when they were in their early 20s.

Point is both bands grew up, and kept putting out amazing record after amazing record.

[shortone1320]

The bickering was fairly interesting - when they were in their early 20s.

Point is both bands grew up, and kept putting out amazing record after amazing record.

the both grew up and produced better music but it was still entertaining to listen to.

[Carpathia]

One could argue the bickering still rages on.

Even though I agree about them maturing and keep releasing quality music, sometimes I wonder if "Liar (It Takes One To Know One)", "You Stole" and the just released "Winter Passing" aren't all somewhat related. Like little cryptical nods between Adam and Jesse.

The verses that lead me to wonder about this:

"Liar (liar)
If we're keeping score
Then we're all choir boys at best"

"So if I'm a liar and you're a thief
at least we both know where the other one sleeps
let's end this tonight"

"I'm alive
I'm a liar
Livin' a lie"

[xshady121]

TAYF > WYWTB >>>>>>>>>> Louder Now ? New Again (haven't bothered to listen)

The thread should have ended after this post.

[xapplexpiex]

TAYF > Louder Now > WYWTB > New Again

I honestly can't listen to New Again all the way through. And I know Louder Now gets a lot of shit, but it has a ton of sentimental value to me. It was the second album I bought with my own money. I played it so many times that I know it from heart. Yes, I am 18, but I got into music at a later time than other users on here.

[xshady121]

One could argue the bickering still rages on.

Even though I agree about them maturing and keep releasing quality music, sometimes I wonder if "Liar (It Takes One To Know One)", "You Stole" and the just released "Winter Passing" aren't all somewhat related. Like little cryptical nods between Adam and Jesse.

The verses that lead me to wonder about this:

"Liar (liar)
If we're keeping score
Then we're all choir boys at best"

"So if I'm a liar and you're a thief
at least we both know where the other one sleeps
let's end this tonight"

"I'm alive
I'm a liar
Livin' a lie"

Noah Fawkes is that you? :squint:

[Carpathia]

The thread should have ended after this post.

I think it's a valid thread, since there's a similar discussion about Daisy and other Brand New records going on.

Noah Fawkes is that you? :squint:

Yeah, because everyone here saying that New Again is a great album is Noah Fawkes. :efu:

[Burn That Shit]

Noah Fawkes is that you? :squint:

haha i thought this was common knowledge, just look at his join date.

[Carpathia]

haha i thought this was common knowledge, just look at his join date.

Er, I'm not Noah Fawkes.

[xapplexpiex]

Er, I'm not Noah Fawkes.
That's exactly what the real Noah Fawkes would say! Hardy har har!

[Burn That Shit]

Er, I'm not Noah Fawkes.

right.

[Carpathia]

That's exactly what the real Noah Fawkes would say! Hardy har har!

right.

http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/I_like_that_ZING.gif

Dismiss people who like this band or New Again as Noah Fawkes is exactly what people that hate New Again would say! Zing.

[ReadyForAction]

My favorite TBS songs arent on a release, so I guess none?

[xapplexpiex]

http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/I_like_that_ZING.gif

Dismiss people who like this band or New Again as Noah Fawkes is exactly what people that hate New Again would say! Zing.
My post wasn't serious...
I don't have a reason to believe you're him. Plenty of people like this album.

[Carpathia]

My post wasn't serious...
I don't have a reason to believe you're him. Plenty of people like this album.

I've seen people using this running gag on others, but never with me til now. It souds like if you like New Again you have AIDS or something.

[xapplexpiex]

I've seen people using this running gag on anothers, but never with me. It souds like if you like New Again you have AIDS or something.
Well New Again isn't exactly a great album...and AIDS isn't exactly a great thing to get. amirite?

[Antics]

You are an idiot.

and you were 8 when TAYF came out.

[atticus18244fss]

and you were 8 when TAYF came out.

And you are 25 and still go on forums...

[Burn That Shit]

And you are 25 and still go on forums...

the fuck? does being older mean you can't discuss music anymore or something?

[atticus18244fss]

the fuck? does being older mean you can't discuss music anymore or something?

It means you should actually begin a proper life.

[showmethefever]

Perfect example of a band that gets worse with every release.

[Burn That Shit]

It means you should actually begin a proper life.

you sound rather silly

[Carpathia]

And you are 25 and still go on forums...

I'm 27 and still go on forums about music because I love talk about music. Your point?

[atticus18244fss]

I'm 27 and still go on forums about music because I love talk about music. Your point?

Whatever I just can't picture myself doing it in a few years anymore.

[Carpathia]

Whatever I just can't picture myself doing it in a few years anymore.

You mean talking about music or enjoying music at all?

[atticus18244fss]

You mean talking about music or enjoying music at all?

No, I'll definitely still be into music, I just may not get into certain aspects as much. I don't think I'll talk about it online or follow all the members constatnly.

[Carpathia]

No, I'll definitely still be into music, I just may not get into certain aspects as much. I don't think I'll talk about it online or follow all the members constatnly.

I don't talk about music online or follow "all the members" constantly, whatever this meant. Anyway, it isn't like you're dead after you hit 25, dude.

[atticus18244fss]

I don't talk about music online or follow "all the members" constantly, whatever this meant. Anyway, it isn't like you're dead after you hit 25, dude.

I know but "real" life starts. I don't mean to offend anyone. But me personally, I don't think I'll want to spend the time or effort following music the way I do now when I actually have responsibilities.

[Carpathia]

I know but "real" life starts. I don't mean to offend anyone. But me personally, I don't think I'll want to spend the time or effort following music the way I do now when I actually have responsibilities.

Lol. What you're saying is that people shouldn't be online after some age because "real" life starts. Can't you see how dumb that reads? I don't know how much time you spend talking about music, but I do it and always will do in my spare time. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, young man.

[atticus18244fss]

Lol. What you're saying is that people shouldn't be online after some age because "real" life starts. Can't you see how dumb that reads? I don't know how much time you spend talking about music, but I do it and always will do in my spare time. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, young man.

I get you. I guess I'll see in 10 years what's happening with me. But at the moment I go on 3 or 4 forums daily. I'll probably just end up going on one eventually to check for news.

[wuduprod]

9 people actually voted for new again?

[Carpathia]

9 people actually voted for new again?

What proves my point of people really enjoying the album, without counting others that voted for other albums but said that really like New Again. It's my favorite TBS album, and I'm one of the nine fellas that voted for it, since you mentioned.

[wuduprod]

maybe i'm biased. i heard 'miami' and got worried. then chuck norris left the band and i gave up on them.