Taking Back Sunday To Re-Record TAYF?

[Jon Foucart]

It's being said that Taking Back Sunday (http://www.takingbacksunday.com) are "hinting" to their fans that they might be re-recording their debut, Tell All Your Friends. No other details are available at this time.

[TheEndofGravity]

i dont think this is a smart idea.

[rus_t]

if they really do this, i will lose all respect for them.

[pinklipgloss]

wtf?

[ARo2431]

i dont think this is a smart idea.


I agree. They should just leave it alone.

[flexifing]

that doesn't make sense. terrible idea

[WeDreamOfDays]

Why ruin a classic?

[Jon Foucart]

really bad idea, TAYF should not be touched.

[minusthejosh]

If they do this, it will forever ruin the thoughts I had on this band. TAYF is a masterpiece in my eyes and they can only ruin it.

[xshameshamex]

i think the new guys would make this CD soooo much better

[we are cured]

no.

[LMB]

Bullshit.

[secondsunrise]

Why mess up an amazing album...adam should just face it...john nolan is cooler than him....

[Tony]

Didn't they already release a fucking special edition!? This may be the worst idea I've ever heard.

[starcrossdlovex]

I will be extremely upset if they do this.
TAYF is perfect the way it is. They'll only butcher it by trying to make it appeal to more people and have their "new, mature sound."
This is possibly the worst idea I've ever heard of.

[boysdontcry17]

i think the new guys would make this CD soooo much better

are you retarded?

[FstFtsVsFences]

Fucking bullshit.

[brooklynburning]

that is simply....wrong

[FstFtsVsFences]

are you retarded?
Haha I was about to ask the same thing.

[mynameistaken]

without John Nolan singing backup, it would ruin the origional with Fred singing. and yes, i agree it is the worst idea ive ever heard of

[redeyes]

but we'll all listen to it...

[boysdontcry17]

Why mess up an amazing album...adam should just face it...john nolan is cooler than him....

agreed. josh nolan can write wayyyyyy better songs

[xshameshamex]

are you retarded? no. I like the new sound better than the old.

John wasnt a very good songwriter IMo

straylight sucks

[bobbob]

Wrong on so many levels. Why mess with the best album they'll ever make? An album where half the current members didn't even write the songs? Pointless stupidity.

On the upside, if they did do this, they'd probably have to record some of the more obscure songs floating about such as I'm Not Gay (I Just Wish I Were), re-do The Ballad of Sal Whatshisface, and Your Own Disaster would probably appear on something non-obscure. I'm sure there's some other songs floating about. I'd like to hear them re-doing the first EP.

[FuryCore]

agreed. josh nolan can write wayyyyyy better songs

Haha, I think it's John.

[buysoap]

teh ghey

[fgevilmonkey]

Please god no!

[Manbotisdead]

It's not that great of an album to begin with.

[Brianfarg]

This is a horrible idea.

[minusthejosh]

i think the new guys would make this CD soooo much better

Are you deaf? If the new TBS were to redo TAYF it would be a disaster. Didn't you listen to Louder Now and realize how far downhill they've gone since TAYF?

[justinevans]

I lost respect for this band awhile back, but I didn't completely know why....now I know why.

[miltownrob]

total slap in the face to john nolan

[Drew Beringer]

Nooooooooooooooooooo!

[knux]

im upset.

[waggy]

if anyone involved with the band or label is reading this, i am done with taking back sunday if they do this(and i would assume many others feel the same way).

[igotstylekid]

its just fine the way it is...

this album has been my number one for so long that if they re-record it i'll probably cry, although that sounds rather gay i am seroius

[John Dunberry]

Why ruin a classic?

It would be impossible to ruin TAYF. If they want to try to make a different version of it, I'll listen to it and give it a chance and who knows, maybe I'll like the new version of one of the songs better. I doubt that because TAYF is my favorite album, but I will definitely give it a chance. But saying that it will ruin the original recording is ridiculous IMO. Nothing can change the originial and even if the newer recording sucks, it doesn't make the originial any different. That would like saying that a crappy movie based off of a great book ruined the book. It can't ruin the book because the book is still the same as it always has been. That's just my opinion I guess.

[last light]

hahah john nolan is so god awful. i hope they do it just to piss him off.

[lesto17]

agreed. josh nolan can write wayyyyyy better songs


WRONG

[Jared Kaufman]

Seeing as I'm the self-proclaimed biggest Tell All Your Friends fan ever, I'd be really disappointed with this.

[the sob]

It would be impossible to ruin TAYF. If they want to try to make a different version of it, I'll listen to it and give it a chance and who knows, maybe I'll like the new version of one of the songs better. I doubt that because TAYF is my favorite album, but I will definitely give it a chance. But saying that it will ruin the original recording is ridiculous IMO. Nothing can change the originial and even if the newer recording sucks, it doesn't make the originial any different. That would like saying that a crappy movie based off of a great book ruined the book. It can't ruin the book because the book is still the same as it always has been. That's just my opinion I guess.


well said.

[jon.fftl]

Meh. I'd rather they not, but I'll still buy it if they do.

[Aneurisms07]

dumb

[Ibanezgsr200]

this makes me sick

[TheEndofGravity]

hahah john nolan is so god awful. i hope they do it just to piss him off.


if you like old tbs, then your just wrong. Actually, either way your wrong. John Nolan is amazing song writer. He made TAYF the classic that it is. To remake this album is pointless. They should just leave it alone.

Does anyone think they just realize the new stuff is not as good, and feel the need to re release old material because thats the best they are capable of? haha

[SuperJoe]

jesus christ people, this isn't pink floyd re-recording "the wall", or the beatles re-recording "revolver", or the clash re-recording "london calling", or andrew w.k. re-recording "i get wet".

it's fucking taking back sunday for shit's sake. about as much of a masterpiece as less than jake's last album was.

[Scott Weber]

doing this would be a huge "fuck you" to all the fans who made them what they are today. I don't get it.

[64 % chance]

please tell me this is a belated april fools joke....please

[Rockrider311]

But saying that it will ruin the original recording is ridiculous IMO. Nothing can change the originial and even if the newer recording sucks, it doesn't make the originial any different. That would like saying that a crappy movie based off of a great book ruined the book. It can't ruin the book because the book is still the same as it always has been. That's just my opinion I guess.
i like the way you think.

[JustAn0th3rFace]

ugh i hope not

[TheEndofGravity]

about as much of a masterpiece as less than jake's last album was.


wrong, dummy.

[birdman]

CALM DOWN!!! This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, no link was given or source. Even if they did do it, it would be like those Star Wars SE's everyone shit themselves about...if you dont like it dont listen to it. However, im sure your feelings about them re-recording the album wont stop any of you from buying it.

[Jared Kaufman]

Seeing as I'm the self-proclaimed biggest Tell All Your Friends fan ever, I'd be really disappointed with this.
Ok, I'd like to add to this.

Tell All Your Friends is one of my all-time favorite records. I hold that album in such a special place in my heart and life that if this were to happen I'd be really, really upset about it. I mean, yes, I'd still have the original version and ability to listen to that as I pleased, but it'd just take away so much meaning from it to know that it had been re-recorded. I don't know what the reasoning behind it would be and I'm not going to act like I do know, but to me it just seems like it'd blatantly disrespect the former members (John and Shaun and their part in crafting those songs and releasing that album), the fans of the original line-up and record the way it is, the people that hold those songs and the way they currently are (like myself) in such high regard, and the whole scene that was thriving around that time period.

[brandneww]

this post is a joke, right?

[SuperJoe]

wrong, dummy.

there's something about someone calling you a dummy which makes you lose all respect for them

[Rohan Kohli]

jesus christ people, this isn't pink floyd re-recording "the wall", or the beatles re-recording "revolver", or the clash re-recording "london calling", or andrew w.k. re-recording "i get wet".

it's fucking taking back sunday for shit's sake. about as much of a masterpiece as less than jake's last album was.

Who cares if it's a "masterpiece" or not --clearly it means a lot to people

Why are you always so pissed off?

[starcrossdlovex]

Well, at least adam's realized TAYF is the best thing he'll ever be a part of.
Maybe he actually listened to Louder Now?

But, couldn't they not do this even if they wanted to?
All the legalities wouldn't clear, would they?

[SuperJoe]

me being the biggest LTJ fan on this site

i'd have to disagree with this statement, but at least somebody understood what i meant by that

[SuperJoe]

Why are you always so pissed off?

because my socks are wet

[an0n]

wow, just like everyone else is saying... awful idea.


hell, even just saying that is pretty much thee understatement of a lifetime

[goalibob]

if they do this they have truely sold out. there is no way this should happen. old members of tbs make that album so awesome.

[The Revisionist]

Maybe it won't sound like shit this time around.

[RomeoAGoGo]

95% of the posts in this thread are insanely dumb

everyone is bitching and moaning over some random gossip about re-recording a pretty good, but certainly not groundbreaking album. even if they did re-record it, how would it ruin the original and what does any of this have to do with respect for the band? the bottom line is this : if you don't want to listen to it, then don't. if you want to hear how different it would sound then go for it. seriously, what's the big deal?

[BtoTheRad]

or andrew w.k. re-recording "i get wet".


:appl:

[zizou1790]

TAYF Is one of my all-time favorite records,i would lose all respect for this band if they re-recorded John Nolans work

[The Revisionist]

everyone is bitching and moaning over some random gossip about re-recording a pretty good, but certainly not groundbreaking album. even if they did re-record it, how would it ruin the original and what does any of this have to do with respect for the band? the bottom line is this : if you don't want to listen to it, then don't. if you want to hear what it would sound like with a different sound then go for it. seriously, what's the big deal?

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[Adeniz19]

jesus christ people, this isn't pink floyd re-recording "the wall", or the beatles re-recording "revolver", or the clash re-recording "london calling", or andrew w.k. re-recording "i get wet".

it's fucking taking back sunday for shit's sake. about as much of a masterpiece as less than jake's last album was.to many people this record has just as much meaning as the ones you listed. who's to say TAYF won't be a CD remembered 10 years from now? if any band decided to do this i would not agree with it.

[Jared Kaufman]

95% of the posts in this thread are insanely dumb

everyone is bitching and moaning over some random gossip about re-recording a pretty good, but certainly not groundbreaking album. even if they did re-record it, how would it ruin the original and what does any of this have to do with respect for the band? the bottom line is this : if you don't want to listen to it, then don't. if you want to hear how different it would sound then go for it. seriously, what's the big deal?
I think you're underestimating the effect Tell All Your Friends had on the scene, emo/punk/whatever music, etc.

[TheEndofGravity]

95% of the posts in this thread are insanely dumb

everyone is bitching and moaning over some random gossip about re-recording a pretty good, but certainly not groundbreaking album. even if they did re-record it, how would it ruin the original and what does any of this have to do with respect for the band? the bottom line is this : if you don't want to listen to it, then don't. if you want to hear how different it would sound then go for it. seriously, what's the big deal?


who are you to say its just a "pretty good" album? apperantly if this many people love the album as much as it seems, it must be a teeny bit better then "pretty good". there are plenty of pretty good albums out there. TAYF is not one of them.

[Loch_Doun]

nooo! record a new cd, dont waste your time.

[Kram41]

That would be a crime, but it won't happen.

[goalibob]

everyone is bitching and moaning over some random gossip about re-recording a pretty good, but certainly not groundbreaking album. even if they did re-record it, how would it ruin the original and what does any of this have to do with respect for the band? the bottom line is this : if you don't want to listen to it, then don't. if you want to hear what it would sound like with a different sound then go for it. seriously, what's the big deal?


if u agree wi this dude then its lame. john nolan made that album wi his backin vocals. adams voice is pure and not fucked bout with on it. thats wot makes it so awesome a think.

[RomeoAGoGo]

I think you're underestimating the effect Tell All Your Friends had on the scene, emo/punk/whatever music, etc.

how so? I know some would argue it "revolutionized" the entire emo scene but all it really did was expose a bunch of kids to great music that was being made decades prior to the release of the album. re-recording it would do nothing more then reaffirm that TBS was better 5 years ago then they are now.

[love_american_style]

total slap in the face to john nolan

i think that may be the point.....maybe?

[Chemical Love]

I would buy it.

[Adeniz19]

95% of the posts in this thread are insanely dumb

everyone is bitching and moaning over some random gossip about re-recording a pretty good, but certainly not groundbreaking album. even if they did re-record it, how would it ruin the original and what does any of this have to do with respect for the band? the bottom line is this : if you don't want to listen to it, then don't. if you want to hear how different it would sound then go for it. seriously, what's the big deal?it has to do with respect because the members that originally wrote those songs will not get credit for it. it really is kind of a slap in the face to john and the other members who but so much effort into it.

[mm30]

CALM DOWN!!! This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, no link was given or source. Even if they did do it, it would be like those Star Wars SE's everyone shit themselves about...if you dont like it dont listen to it. However, im sure your feelings about them re-recording the album wont stop any of you from buying it.


Really the above quote is one of the only ones's i've read here without laughing. And what is the obsession with the word gay on this site.

Now my points...

1. I highly doubt they will re-record the whole album, possibly several tracks but not the whole album

2. I believe the Victory/TBS split was not an amicable one as I recall Brummel receiving a gold record for Where You Want To Be and sending it back or somthing, then again money walks and so forth

3. From what I recall John Nolan left the band...so TBS owes nothing to him and they would be nowhere without Adam he is the frontman type that people wanna see and Nolan is not...and that's nothing against him. I think Nolan is happy where he is doing indie rock with a marginally successful band and having his sister by his side and having control over his band and his direction...he couldn't control Adam

4. Yes, TBS is not the same band as the first album but they are such better players and Freddy is very talent and underrated by many Nolan loyalists...He is a tremendous player and a very capable songwriter as I find myself really enjoying the Breaking Pangaea stuff more and more

5. I knew this board would go apeshit HA!HA!HA!

it's only music kids...
.

[brandneww]

no. I like the new sound better than the old.

John wasnt a very good songwriter IMo

straylight sucks

a prime example of scene kids who like music because it's popular. TBS barely got any recognition until after WYWTB was released, so of course the new sound and lyrics are better. please.


if they do this, i will also, like many of you have said, lost all respect for this band. although, even before i read this post, i'd already lost about 82% of the respect i had anyway.

[wuninseven]

if i were john nolan, i'd be pretty pissed off.

something tells me this is bullshit anyways.

[RomeoAGoGo]

who are you to say its just a "pretty good" album? apperantly if this many people love the album as much as it seems, it must be a teeny bit better then "pretty good". there are plenty of pretty good albums out there. TAYF is not one of them.

who are you to say it's more then pretty good?
everyone has their own tastes and opinions.

I personally think TAYF is a really good album, that's that.

[Ryan Imhof]

what an awful idea. don't ruin my favorite CD.

[elvis2x]

It would be cool if they rerecorded it. I'd like to see what it would sound like with their "new" sound.

Their last two albums aren't as bad as people have made them look. I like them, to be honest.

[goalibob]

it is true that they have had a gradual down fall since the release of TAYF. where you want to be was really quite gd. louder now is a modest effort which was long awaited.

[SuperJoe]

to many people this record has just as much meaning as the ones you listed. who's to say TAYF won't be a CD remembered 10 years from now? if any band decided to do this i would not agree with it.

see, this is where i have a problem with people bitching about it. because when a band decides to do something, it is their decision. as a consumer, you have the right to stop supporting them if you want. so really, you not "agreeing" with their decision does not really amount to shit. hell i'd love for the living end to come and play in my bathroom every morning while i'm showering, but they don't.

people seem to forget that they're not actually a part of *insert band name here*

[RomeoAGoGo]

it has to do with respect because the members that originally wrote those songs will not get credit for it. it really is kind of a slap in the face to john and the other members who but so much effort into it.

it's not really a slap in the face if the re-recorded version is a lot worse then the original.

if I was john I wouldn't want my name slapped onto some recycled version of what some call "a masterpiece"

[Adeniz19]

a prime example of scene kids who like music because it's popular. TBS barely got any recognition until after WYWTB was released, so of course the new sound and lyrics are better. please.


if they do this, i will also, like many of you have said, lost all respect for this band. although, even before i read this post, i'd already lost about 82% of the respect i had anyway.wasn't TAYF gold before WYWTB was released?

[love_american_style]

It would be impossible to ruin TAYF. If they want to try to make a different version of it, I'll listen to it and give it a chance and who knows, maybe I'll like the new version of one of the songs better. I doubt that because TAYF is my favorite album, but I will definitely give it a chance. But saying that it will ruin the original recording is ridiculous IMO. Nothing can change the originial and even if the newer recording sucks, it doesn't make the originial any different. That would like saying that a crappy movie based off of a great book ruined the book. It can't ruin the book because the book is still the same as it always has been. That's just my opinion I guess.

i agree.....i am actually curious to hear what it would sound like. i am a hard core taking back sunday fan (old AND new) and i support this decision regaurdless how this album will turn out....after all if it sucks you could always go back to the original and pretend it never happened.

[Adeniz19]

it's not really a slap in the face if the re-recorded version is a lot worse then the original.

if I was john I wouldn't want my name slapped onto some recycled version of what some call "a masterpiece"if i was john i wouldn't want it recycled at all. i wouldn't want people benefiting from my work.

[DemolitionLover]

Part of me is interested in how this would sound but Fred can't compare to John, he makes Timberwolves sound terrible live.

[fluke182]

I love TBS, but come on now. This would just be silly. Given new treatment however, this album would likely be huge and it's smart for them to do business-wise, to capture a new audience for their best album...plus that would mean playing old stuff on tour again. But still, seems just really unnecessary and silly.

[Brandn3w]

thats a bummer, and a stupid idea/waste of money much like Keasbey Nights as performed by Streetlight Manifesto.

[clace]

Fred > John

[bobbob]

Personally, I think that Less Than Jake should rerecord TAYF. That'd be awesome.

[thisisrightnow]

What?! Why would they want to do something stupid like that? Just leave a classic album like it is.

[Adeniz19]

see, this is where i have a problem with people bitching about it. because when a band decides to do something, it is their decision. as a consumer, you have the right to stop supporting them if you want. so really, you not "agreeing" with their decision does not really amount to shit. hell i'd love for the living end to come and play in my bathroom every morning while i'm showering, but they don't.

people seem to forget that they're not actually a part of *insert band name here*me not agreeing does amount to something because i am a fan. and like you said if i don't agree with it i won't buy it. i am allowed to have opinions on my favorite bands whether it is good or bad. if the living end decided to start playing country music i'm sure you would have something to say about it.

[RomeoAGoGo]

if i was john i wouldn't want it recycled at all. i wouldn't want people benefiting from my work.

they already did benefit from his work.

I have a lot of respect for John, especially considering he's from my hometown (Rockville Centre, LI), and I don't think his name would be tarnished nor underappreciated.

[com(?)]

What utter ******s

[goalibob]

how bout taking back sunday just bum off their new record for another 2 years and release somethin new and not as commercialised?

[MrMet]

Desperate times call for desperate measures

[xampx07]

It would be impossible to ruin TAYF. If they want to try to make a different version of it, I'll listen to it and give it a chance and who knows, maybe I'll like the new version of one of the songs better. I doubt that because TAYF is my favorite album, but I will definitely give it a chance. But saying that it will ruin the original recording is ridiculous IMO. Nothing can change the originial and even if the newer recording sucks, it doesn't make the originial any different. That would like saying that a crappy movie based off of a great book ruined the book. It can't ruin the book because the book is still the same as it always has been. That's just my opinion I guess.

amen

[SuperJoe]

me not agreeing does amount to something because i am a fan. and like you said if i don't agree with it i won't buy it. i am allowed to have opinions on my favorite bands whether it is good or bad. if the living end decided to start playing country music i'm sure you would have something to say about it.

wrong. the beauty of music and bands is that there's so much to choose from. so if the living end started playing acid jazz or black metal i could easily just pick up my old fugazi or debbie gibson tapes and carry on with my life.

[Jim Morgan]

we'l see what happens. i think it is fine as it is, bu im not against a new take on it.

[Adeniz19]

they already did benefit from his work.

I have a lot of respect for John, especially considering he's from my hometown (Rockville Centre, LI), and I don't think his name would be tarnished nor underappreciated.of course it wouldn't but i would be somewhat insulted if i were him.

[naphtha74]

I think they're doing this, so that the two new members feel that it is their songs, when they play it live. Its the only conclusion i can come to about it right now...

[mgwisni]

This would be a travesty.

[goalibob]

a dont think any1 here would deny to listen to it. if they were to release it it would have to be thru victory. atleast then it would remain slightly respectful.

[HoboAdam]

it sounds like they want to get rid of any memory of john nolan

[jfb392]

Don't rerecord it, just remove the annoying hiss.

[againstthecoast]

through each of taking back sundays follow up efforts to this cd i have began to respect and like them less and less. if they re-record this masterpiece in their continued effort to sell out, they will lose the respect of every kid who once loved this cd.

[Nolessthanblink]

I'm not going to read through all of this shit, but I'd have to say that the KEY word(s) here is that it is "being said" (by fans that are prolly liars) that they are "hinting" at re-recording it. I saw them on July 16 and they said NOTHING about anything that could even lead someone on to believe that they were considering re-recording that album. I think that they all know it couldn't get any better, and that if they did try and re-record it, it would lose it's "flavor" almost. It'd be overproduced, Adam wouldn't be gasping for air like the original...and no, it wouldn't be worse just cause Fred is there... basically, all the things that made the album unique wouldn't be there anymore, and that album's uniqueness is what drew everyone to it, and I'm pretty sure the band knows that and knows how many true fans they'd alienate. I just hope that their label doesn't push them on it as a chance to cash in...

[gravitywinsagn]

i hope they don't do it...really. please no.

[Adeniz19]

wrong. the beauty of music and bands is that there's so much to choose from. so if the living end started playing acid jazz or black metal i could easily just pick up my old fugazi or debbie gibson tapes and carry on with my life.ok cool guy. i think you are full of shit because if a band really did mean something to you, you would have something to say no matter how much other music there is out there to listen to. you wouldnt just say "oh well i'll just move on".

[Let's get away.]

a travesty

[goalibob]

john nolans backin vocals made this album unique and the fact that they werent gettin paid a shit load of money for the record ment they did it for the love of music.

[Dan CiTi]

if i were john nolan, i'd be pretty pissed off.

something tells me this is bullshit anyways. If I were Fred or Matt and reading this thread, I would be really discouraged. I wouldnt mind this if they old one was still in print and the new one was 8-10 bucks max.

[FstFtsVsFences]

ok cool guy. i think you are full of shit because if a band really did mean something to you, you would have something to say no matter how much other music there is out there to listen to. you wouldnt just say "oh well i'll just move on".
Exactly dude. Even if you're not a fan of this band, just think for a minute that it was one of your favorite cds (a "classic" if you will) being redone. I couldn't see this actually happening because it has "BAD IDEA" written all over it, but if it does go through and happen I'm done with this band.

[Let's get away.]

a travesty

[mbuchbauer88]

Why mess up an amazing album...adam should just face it...john nolan is cooler than him....

no question. the new guys can only make a masterpiece into shit

[socalchica]

Just from reading the first 3 pages of replies makes me realize what a bunch of douches are on this site.

all anyone does is bash every news topic, with no real understanding of how the music world works.

[goalibob]

Just from reading the first 3 pages of replies makes me realize what a bunch of douches are on this site.

all anyone does is bash every news topic, with no real understanding of how the music world works.

i think this guy is a douche. reply to this if hes a douche

[Dan CiTi]

through each of taking back sundays follow up efforts to this cd i have began to respect and like them less and less. if they re-record this masterpiece in their continued effort to sell out, they will lose the respect of every kid who once loved this cd. pretty much, but if they want to do it so Fred and Matt arnt looked down on or something i'd be fine as long as the original is still in print/stores.

[Adeniz19]

Just from reading the first 3 pages of replies makes me realize what a bunch of douches are on this site.

all anyone does is bash every news topic, with no real understanding of how the music world works.then please enlighten us all knowing one instead of calling everyone names

[Dan CiTi]

well said. I agree too.

[Nolessthanblink]

i think this guy is a douche. reply to this if hes a douche

That's a chick dude... I think YOU'RE a douche. I hate to say it, but she's right. Why's everyone bashing the "new" guys. Everyone may like John singing more than Fred, but you CAN NOT say that John is ANY WHERE NEAR Fred's level on the guitar, and Matt is 10000000000 times better at bass than Shaun was. Why don't you sappy fucks stop complaing that the "new" TBS sucks so much, go on liking them AND liking Straylight Run as well. Two good bands from the spliut of one great band... WHY is everyone still bitching and moaning about soemthing that happened like over 2 years ago? shit.

[richie]

oh come on people
it's just as if blink decided to redo dude ranch or cheshire cat after ther last album
that would have ruined those masterpieces

[goalibob]

ok dude. i agree that matt is better than shaun was. but fred isnt vocally as gd as john. althought musically he mayb better a still wud rather have john in place.

[SuperJoe]

ok cool guy. i think you are full of shit because if a band really did mean something to you, you would have something to say no matter how much other music there is out there to listen to. you wouldnt just say "oh well i'll just move on".

you know what? you treat artists and bands as if they are something to be worshipped. yes, joe strummer's works have been a huge influence on my musical preferences, but if he had gone out and put out an album with ja rule, i wouldn't get all worked up. get a grip on reality. you're trying to protect something that is blanketed with money and market trends.

so no, you're wrong. i wouldn't have something to say. i'd pull out my old cds and move on with my life and not think twice about it.

[love_american_style]

:appl: That's a chick dude... I think YOU'RE a douche. I hate to say it, but she's right. Why's everyone bashing the "new" guys. Everyone may like John singing more than Fred, but you CAN NOT say that John is ANY WHERE NEAR Fred's level on the guitar, and Matt is 10000000000 times better at bass than Shaun was. Why don't you sappy fucks stop complaing that the "new" TBS sucks so much, go on liking them AND liking Straylight Run as well. Two good bands from the spliut of one great band... WHY is everyone still bitching and moaning about soemthing that happened like over 2 years ago? shit.

[Hidenothing27]

I agree with everyone that it be a poor call in judgement but for cripes sake get over it, if they re-record it is for them not the fans. Music is art for them (hopefully) and if thats what they want fine. BUT please quit your bitching that they will never re create what they did with tell all your friends. I HATE people like that. They want bands not to mature and stay exactly the same for every fucking record even if its 8 years later.. get the fuck over it. Thursday will never make another full collapse.....Dashboard will never make another Swiss army romance.... Coheed and Cambria will never make another Second stage turbine blade..Saosin will never make another translating the name... Saves the will never make another stay where(or what?) you are..Further seems forever will never make another moon is down. Finch would have never made another What is it to burn.It is fucking called growth people, stop expect bands to match what they did in the past because they have NO intention too.... and lastly my fav all time classic... hahaha Hawthorne heights will never make another silence in black and white hahaha thank god for that though..

[mm30]

That's a chick dude... I think YOU'RE a douche. I hate to say it, but she's right. Why's everyone bashing the "new" guys. Everyone may like John singing more than Fred, but you CAN NOT say that John is ANY WHERE NEAR Fred's level on the guitar, and Matt is 10000000000 times better at bass than Shaun was. Why don't you sappy fucks stop complaing that the "new" TBS sucks so much, go on liking them AND liking Straylight Run as well. Two good bands from the spliut of one great band... WHY is everyone still bitching and moaning about soemthing that happened like over 2 years ago? shit.


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have all the TBS, Breaking Pangaea and Straylight Run stuff and I love it all!!!!!

I say we start a new news topic HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS TO RE-RECORD SIB&W and watch the venom spew....

[Sailor Tattoos]

wouldnt buy it....unless john agreed to do all his parts on it

[goalibob]

gel douche likes

[goalibob]

look up gel douche on you tube. classic european advert.

[ColourandShape]

if aint broke don't fix it

[goalibob]

exactly

[punkerz2003]

Everyone needs to calm down, it's only a rumor, and if they actually do it and you think it will be that bad, just don't listen to it.

[Phil507]

Why do all you morons think this album is such a "classic"? Yes, it's good but it's pretty juvenile and honestly, not that groundbreaking. Maybe for 16-year-old myspacers with broken hearts, but for the rest of this, it's a very enjoyable album though nothing to lose sleep over it.

-Phil

[bobbob]

you just re-affirmed my comment on douches, thank you! first off im a girl, if you cant tell that from my name I dont know what to say.
Maybe he assumed because you have "Gender: Male" by your username? Douche.

[goalibob]

nooo way.. john nolan is awesome in straylight run and also tbs. fred is awesome in where you want to be. but in louder now a dont think that he is used enough singin with adam. i agree bout matt

[goalibob]

sorry bout douchin the girl also

[lassise]

didnt they already re record it? i see it with different covers

[pretty_in_punk3]

its going to ruin the album if they go and fuck with it...enough said

[unwritten]

I've been listening to TBS since '01 and honestly, so what if they re-record it? I honestly think Fred is amazing and a better fit in the band anyway. So there, suck it. Complainers...

[Ailite]

I don't think its that horrible an idea, but I'm definitely a bit skeptical. I like the band now a lot more than I did with TAYF, so I think it could work.

[aheroinmyeyes]

I think this post needed a "gossip" icon next to it, that's all it is anyways.

[rrfb92]

i think the new guys would make this CD soooo much better
umm............no they need to leave it alone for the rest of eternity, the new guys may be decent but they cant compare to tayf in anyway shape or form NUF SAID.

[mynameisgeneric]

If they re-record it, Id give it a listen, but I dont think it would come close to the first recording.

No matter what, I'll always have the first one, and thats all that matters to me in the end.

[leftstranded]

wow. i love when people come in calling people names over an opinion. i honestly think this would be a horrible idea. half of the appeal from tayf was the recording quality. no need to re-record something that was already a masterpiece as others have said before.

john helped to make that album what it is and there is no reason to go back into the past. if i was tbs i would just move on to writing new stuff and forget what happened in the past

[Web250]

Maybe they could improve Head Club...but other than that? I don't think so.

This is like Streetlight re-doing Keasbey Nights....you just dont mess with a classic.

[leftstranded]

and my point was that every news post gets bashed with little or no thought.
i'm only going to touch in this point. no they don't. matter of fact i see tons of news posts that people applaud and think are good moves. this isn't one of them. stick around long enough and you'll see that

[AHMYBRAIN]

The idea of anything TBS-related being a "masterpiece" makes me giggle.

[Dan CiTi]

you know what? you treat artists and bands as if they are something to be worshipped. yes, joe strummer's works have been a huge influence on my musical preferences, but if he had gone out and put out an album with ja rule, i wouldn't get all worked up. get a grip on reality. you're trying to protect something that is blanketed with money and market trends.

so no, you're wrong. i wouldn't have something to say. i'd pull out my old cds and move on with my life and not think twice about it. Joe Strummer can rap. That might be interesting
I think most can agree with:
Matt(bass) > Shaun
Fred(guitar) > John
Fred(singing) < John
Adam (lyrics) = John (someways, it's a complicated one)

[leftstranded]

I've been listening to TBS since '01 and honestly, so what if they re-record it? I honestly think Fred is amazing and a better fit in the band anyway. So there, suck it. Complainers...
:)

[screwbizzle]

holy shitttttttttttttttttttttt.

[Ladron]

The idea of anything TBS-related being a "masterpiece" makes me giggle.

I always laugh when fans call this album a "masterpiece".

[SykoBadger]

Personally, I think it's an interesting idea. I'm a pretty big fan of all of TBS's cds... they have definitely evolved over the years, but I don't think the current band is any better or worse than the original line-up... they are just different, and I like them for different reasons.

That being said, while I think TAYF is an amazing album, the recording quality isn't that great (that hiss really freakin bugs me) and I'd love to hear it re-recorded... Louder Now is one of the best sounding CDs I've ever heard as far as the sound quality goes. I'm sure the style of TAYF would change too, and I'm willing to give that a chance... but I'd be interesting to see what they could do with it. Granted, I'm not quite as attatched to this cd as most people are...

Also, I doubt this would every actually happen. But I'd probably dig it.

[Jason Tate]

I don't think legally this could happen.

[Dan CiTi]

I've been listening to TBS since '01 and honestly, so what if they re-record it? I honestly think Fred is amazing and a better fit in the band anyway. So there, suck it. Complainers... I feel the same way about Paramore & P!@tD too.

[goalibob]

victory mite not agree with warner

[IcedOpethBlind]

publicity stunt.

[com(?)]

I take it John and Shaun don't hold any sort of copyright on these songs at all then?

[NonOperational]

you just re-affirmed my comment on douches, thank you! first off im a girl, if you cant tell that from my name I dont know what to say. Someone else already summed up my point... so I wont ramble on.

And Yes... Matt crushes the old bass player. Fred is an amazing guitar player. And please listen to straylight run live, John Nolan CAN'T sing. Then go listen to some old Breaking Pangea albums and realize how much fred runs circles around John Nolan.

I mean, get real dude!

and my point was that every news post gets bashed with little or no thought.

wrong...Adam could possibly be the worst voice live ever. not saying they can't put on a live show, but i am saying that I would rather listen to a live recording of John AND Michelle over Fred and Adam

[MarkyMark1984]

please don't . . . just keep going the way you are going now. even if i don't like it as much as TAYF, i still have fond memories of it. i don't know if i would like to hear it re-made.

[unwritten]

:)
;)

[unwritten]

I feel the same way about Paramore & P!@tD too.
:unsure:

[LPMagic]

This has to be some sort of sick joke.

- Jeff

[dekdog11]

oh come on people
it's just as if blink decided to redo dude ranch or cheshire cat after ther last album
that would have ruined those masterpieces

except that travis is a greater drummer than the dude in the band before...so it would not ruin it
redoing this makes no sense, since john > fred

[mysensesfailed3]

im glad their isnt scene points anymore but streetlight manifesto did an alright job with keaseby nights so why not give it a try. it might not be for everyone but it is for some so if they want to and you dont, just dont buy it. goddamn.

[goalibob]

hahaha. thanks for the good old company. see u ppl later

[jimboj917]

why would a band want to re-record what i'd cnsider their best album? i know, i know, line-ups changes, maturity, and so on, but honestly. the rawness of this album is what the others lack.

[love_american_style]

I don't think legally this could happen.

yes your probably right...polls over...everyone can stop their bitching.

[DivisionStreet]

I think this is a bad idea. However, I've always said that I'd like Underoath to re-record The Changing of Times. The only reason for that is because it is almost unlistenable to me because the recording quality is quite sub-par. TBS' album, on the other hand, is great. It can't get any better to me.

[loofa]

Leave it how it is.
Its their best album.

[Adeniz19]

you know what? you treat artists and bands as if they are something to be worshipped. yes, joe strummer's works have been a huge influence on my musical preferences, but if he had gone out and put out an album with ja rule, i wouldn't get all worked up. get a grip on reality. you're trying to protect something that is blanketed with money and market trends.

so no, you're wrong. i wouldn't have something to say. i'd pull out my old cds and move on with my life and not think twice about it.it's not like this is an issue that has deeply affected my life. i've made a few comments on what i think of the situation because their music does mean something to me and i had a need to voice what i felt. will i be sulking over this tomorrow? no, but this is a forum for you to say what is on your mind about a current band and if tbs really decided to do this i would not agree with it.

[McSavah]

This is ridiculous.

[xPaulWallx]

if this really happens i will find a way to punch adam in the face myself and go to tbs shows just to throw shit at them and get kicked out. tbs is the definition of sellout.

[Dan CiTi]

:unsure:So jeremy & hunter aren't as good as Jason & John? bullshit. They are 10x better. I said Panic! because the other guy just plain sucked and I bet Jon holds up much better on bass.

[streetcar]

ha i wanna know what the definition of a sellout is please

[PlusDanny]

Horrible. I won't lie though. I'd listen to it out of curiousity.

[falloutdrea19]

whattttt the fuck. there is NO way in hell they should do this. john was on that album, and it needs to stay that way.

[mrzippo3]

dis is horrible idea yes

[Dan CiTi]

I think this is a bad idea. However, I've always said that I'd like Underoath to re-record The Changing of Times. The only reason for that is because it is almost unlistenable to me because the recording quality is quite sub-par. TBS' album, on the other hand, is great. It can't get any better to me. I can agree with the thing about recording quality issue which is hardly a problem for TBS. The recording quality could be alittle better on TAYF but not enough to make a reasonable difference to redo.

[falloutdrea19]

hahah john nolan is so god awful. i hope they do it just to piss him off.

no fucking way..

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

my first thought was wtf? then i started thinking that i'd like to hear it. if i dont like it upon first listen i can always just listen to the old one. i think they should do it.

[mr chainsaw]

the alkaline trio is better

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

yes your probably right...polls over...everyone can stop their bitching.


yeah thats the other thing i thought about. i have alwasy wanted blink to re-record cheshire cat. no so much now, but back during enema and toypaj

[mr chainsaw]

ha i wanna know what the definition of a sellout is please

a song by reel big fish

[radiofriendly]

i'd listen to it. i don't know why they'd do it. but as long as all parties involved are okay with it, i'd definitely give it a listen at least.

[lilRIPsta]

People need to hop off this cd, its not even the best cd released in 2002, Worship and Tribute was. And i preferred WYWTB better.

[falloutdrea19]

Really the above quote is one of the only ones's i've read here without laughing. And what is the obsession with the word gay on this site.

Now my points...

1. I highly doubt they will re-record the whole album, possibly several tracks but not the whole album

2. I believe the Victory/TBS split was not an amicable one as I recall Brummel receiving a gold record for Where You Want To Be and sending it back or somthing, then again money walks and so forth

3. From what I recall John Nolan left the band...so TBS owes nothing to him and they would be nowhere without Adam he is the frontman type that people wanna see and Nolan is not...and that's nothing against him. I think Nolan is happy where he is doing indie rock with a marginally successful band and having his sister by his side and having control over his band and his direction...he couldn't control Adam

4. Yes, TBS is not the same band as the first album but they are such better players and Freddy is very talent and underrated by many Nolan loyalists...He is a tremendous player and a very capable songwriter as I find myself really enjoying the Breaking Pangaea stuff more and more

5. I knew this board would go apeshit HA!HA!HA!

it's only music kids...
.

it's ONLY music, kids? are you joking? this is a music forum for christ sakes. 99% of the people on this site worship music. to us, it is not "only" music...it's pretty much everything. tell all your friends was influential for a LOT of people. yes, fred is talented, and yes, maybe john is happier now (although there's really no way of knowing that for sure...it's just speculation), but the bottom line is that tell all your friends still should NOT be touched. that is ridiculous.

[Scuba Chris]

The legal logistics involved in making this re-release would be crazy. So I doubt this would happen. TBS would not want to effect their hardcore fans like that. That being said I wouldn't be against the re-release, there is nothing wrong with some remixes or new takes on songs I love. You could just forget the re-release ever happened if it bothers you that much.

[falloutdrea19]

I say we start a new news topic HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS TO RE-RECORD SIB&W and watch the venom spew....


LOL..ohh geez.

[andy_187]

we're all saying that they've gone so downhill since TAYF so maybe this could be a good thing, going back to their old sound and all? just throwing that out there. maybe then the next album would be a pleasent suprise and be more TAYF sounding.

[aolsux]

i knew when i saw this news item it would recieve at least 6000 replies

not a good idea to rerecord

[Jon Foucart]

I don't think legally this could happen.
i was thinking the same but there's always a way around something....even if it is Tony Brummel.

[thisisadisaster]

im going to pretend that john and shawn are rejoining them.

that would be cool.

[_kelly]

if they re record tayf ill be pretty dissapointed. tayf was the record that really got me into music and its always been my favorite cd. nothing they do could touch the original recording

[bobbob]

first off your all dumb if you believe this because of the following:
TAYF was released on Victory Records Taking Back Sunday is on Warner Bros. Records. Victory records owns all songs from Taking Back Sunday that were released on Victory(TAYF,WYWTB) So therfore legally it cant happen

Pretty sure this isn't true. Victory owns the rights to the recording, but they don't own the rights to the song. It could just be licensed out in the same way a cover version is.

[falloutdrea19]

so i was googling some shit and found this: http://www.absolutepunk.net/archive/index.php?t-23562.html
it's pretty interesting...this part especially:
Jason: Well, that sort of ties into my next question. How do you feel about Taking Back Sunday playing songs that you, John, helped write – and Shaun helped create?

John: Well, I definitely have no problem with it; but to be honest there is something strange to me about it. It really just, doesn’t seem .. real. Something is not right or natural about it because I feel that those songs were very much a product of the five of us that were in the band. And obviously you can get other people to come in and do what Shaun and me did on those songs, but the writing of those songs was something that was extremely collaborative and extremely ..

Shaun: … and was extremely heartfelt, from the bottom of our hearts, something that we were trying to express.

John: Yah, everything – even the music, not just the lyrics. And there’s something to me that’s just strange about it, and I really hope that they start working, and try to move on and start working on new music as soon as they can, and not just playing those songs that we wrote over and over and over again. Of course though, whatever they do is up to them, and is totally in their hands. I would never try and stop them, or complain about it – it’s just a strange situation.

[girlsroxboys]

the only reason to do it would be to remove the hissing television sound on the condensor mics in the recording...

once I heard that sound, the record has been almost impossible to listen to for long periods of time...

but anyway, there are no legal grounds for them to do this so it will never happen..

[ffafan]

ive been wondering this for awhile and have never gotten a straight answer anyone know the real reason sean and john left the band.. ive heard many stories

[bass ampss]

What were the 'hints?'

[murphy77]

i love tbs, they are my favorite band but i dont think this would happen (nor would i want it to). tbs has grown up and moved away from the sound of tayf. they only play 4 songs from that album live for christs sake. i love tbs but if they want to do something different then putting out album after album, then they should do a split with my chem or someone

[NameTaken69]

why fuck with a masterpiece?

[Brandn3w]

on the plus side, if this were to happen, i think that would mean more TAYF songs would be played live.

[sbalfourish]

but we'll all listen to it...

I wouldn't. Not even to see how horrible it sounds.

[FOBPrettyNPunk]

Leave it be.

[love_american_style]

ive been wondering this for awhile and have never gotten a straight answer anyone know the real reason sean and john left the band.. ive heard many stories

i dont think anyone would be able to give you a strait awnser.

[Venona]

Tell All Your Your Friends would be shit without John Nolan
Theres no 'i' in team just wouldnt feel right with Fred instead of John

[sidewacker]

You guys are all dumb. TAYF was a shit album with shitty lyrics about bullets, guns, and killing yourself. If you want to be involved with that shit then go join a cult you sidewacking sons a bitches. The new TBS record is a lot better then their previous junk albums. Atleast the lyrics aren't supporting lame ass shit that implies "shoot yourself, you are listening to taking back sunday."

[ffafan]

i dont think anyone would be able to give you a strait awnser.

i do believe that this site posted the reason why and tbs was mad at them for doing so. so im sure that thread isnt up but if it still is someone should fill me in on the link

[andrew182182]

Did anyone even get to listen to their re-done version of You Know How I Do, that they played during their headlining tour? It fucking kicked ass, quite a bit different than the original, but still rocked just as hard. I would love to hear what they would do with the rest of the cd. TAYF was awesome, but I hardly listen to it anymore. I'm really curious to hear what some of my favorite songs of all time would sound like with better production, songwriting, and about 50 times more professionalism than the band had back then.
and for those of you that love John Nolan, you need to pull your heads out of your asses and realize that he left TBS, and took his sound in a completely different direction. Did you want TBS to turn into Straylight Run? Cause thats what would have happened, but instead he and Shaun were replaced with Fred and Matt, who just so happen to write actual rock guitar music that kicks ass, rather than acoustic piano ballads!

[skup1017]

FUCK NO. THEY WILL DESTROY THIS ALBUM BEYOND RECOGNITION. NEW TBS IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE...horrible. Everything after this brilliant album has sucked. like bad. Every song sounds alike...it's so sad. BUT NO. TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS doesn't need to be redone...they just need to get some GOOD new songs...they're just unable to do that w/o John. Sad. Very sad.

[goalibob]

tbs shud never re record TAYF but a dont think they will. rumours rumours rumours

[Nolessthanblink]

Did anyone even get to listen to their re-done version of You Know How I Do, that they played during their headlining tour? It fucking kicked ass, quite a bit different than the original, but still rocked just as hard. I would love to hear what they would do with the rest of the cd. TAYF was awesome, but I hardly listen to it anymore. I'm really curious to hear what some of my favorite songs of all time would sound like with better production, songwriting, and about 50 times more professionalism than the band had back then.
and for those of you that love John Nolan, you need to pull your heads out of your asses and realize that he left TBS, and took his sound in a completely different direction. Did you want TBS to turn into Straylight Run? Cause thats what would have happened, but instead he and Shaun were replaced with Fred and Matt, who just so happen to write actual rock guitar music that kicks ass, rather than acoustic piano ballads!

:appl:

[Nolessthanblink]

Hold on, I just thought about something... fucking... you guys are calling TBS and shit sell outs and what not, I was flipping through channels the other day and heard "Existentialism on Prom Night" on a channel. I stopped to see what the show was and it was FUCKING LAGUNA BEACH... I've NEVER heard a TBS song on stupid shitty teeny bopper shows like that... and you guys are saying that TBS are sellouts and John Nolan was a god and what not... give me a fucking break.

[goalibob]

a stil love tbs although they are definately a major band now. a thot they cud have changed wot a major labels band stereotypically is like but they havent. but it doesnt change how i feel about them. i love their music.

[alifetmeaway]

could this be worse then just a regular re-release?

[sbalfourish]

and for those of you that love John Nolan, you need to pull your heads out of your asses and realize that he left TBS, and took his sound in a completely different direction. Did you want TBS to turn into Straylight Run? Cause thats what would have happened, but instead he and Shaun were replaced with Fred and Matt, who just so happen to write actual rock guitar music that kicks ass, rather than acoustic piano ballads!

Have you listened to Hands In the Sky or Another Word for Desperate? At least John Nolan knows how to write diverse music. Instead of a band that writes the same songs over and over again.

I enjoy Louder Now and some of Where You Want To Be, but the only thing you get that is "different" from them is New American Classic and Divine Intervention. Both of which are horrible songs.

[falloutdrea19]

Hold on, I just thought about something... fucking... you guys are calling TBS and shit sell outs and what not, I was flipping through channels the other day and heard "Existentialism on Prom Night" on a channel. I stopped to see what the show was and it was FUCKING LAGUNA BEACH... I've NEVER heard a TBS song on stupid shitty teeny bopper shows like that... and you guys are saying that TBS are sellouts and John Nolan was a god and what not... give me a fucking break.


ummm i'm PRETTY SURE that straylight run didn't call up laguna beach producers and say, "PLAY OUR SONG PLEASE!"

[Venona]

a stil love tbs although they are definately a major band now. a thot they cud have changed wot a major labels band stereotypically is like but they havent. but it doesnt change how i feel about them. i love their music.
dude theyll play anything for the backround music on mtv shows
ive heard Reggie and the Full Effect and Hellogoodbye on Real World

[GAD_guy]

tell all your friends is a masterpiece. everything since then is decent throwaway pop at best. it's clear that the songwriting talent that made TAYF possible no longer exists in this band.

[goalibob]

day at the fair and hidden in plain view on pimp my ride

[xblakeyoung]

They just want Fred on the record so they can put behind the old ghosts. Terrible record, terrible band.

[crowquill]

morons.

[thesewalls]

I liked the new album anyway. They won't do it, mark my words.

[chokeychicken]

if this is any sort of true, i will never again support this band in any way, shape, or form.

this has been one of my favorite records since the day it came out, and this is just another slap in the face to every kid who made this band everything they are today. not as big as louder now, but close.

might as well take us out back and piss in our mouths.

no pa, yeller's my dog. i'll do it.

[ultragabe]

This is why this site gets so much shit from artist. This is a rumor based on absolutely nothing.
Adam, Mark, and Ed stated in an interview right after the break up that they wouldnt play certain songs ever again cause they were too personal to John's life (i.e. Theres no i in team). They cant redo the entire record because John wrote about 75% of the lyrics! Yes, i understand Adam barely writes any of the lyrics now but i'm sure he is aware that Taking Back Sunday now is not Taking Back Sunday of Tell All Your Friends. It would be like them taking New Found Glory's CD and rerecording it.To put it in the simplest terms: They wouldnt dare.

[noles05]

this would be the 8th deadly sin

[Name_Taken]

its probably the lead singer's idea, because hes being an asshole and wants to cover up any evidence of the ex-members who are now in Straylight Run.

[Atticus_86]

why the fuck not? bands rerecord shit all the time. tayf isnot a classic the album quality is horrible and it crying for better prodution...this could be intresting...people need to learn how to let go stop being such babies the new tbs line up is great. if you loose respect for a band just cause they rerecord something then your retarded and your missing the point...get over the past.

[staticandclarity]

Hold on, I just thought about something... fucking... you guys are calling TBS and shit sell outs and what not, I was flipping through channels the other day and heard "Existentialism on Prom Night" on a channel. I stopped to see what the show was and it was FUCKING LAGUNA BEACH... I've NEVER heard a TBS song on stupid shitty teeny bopper shows like that... and you guys are saying that TBS are sellouts and John Nolan was a god and what not... give me a fucking break.


well technically im not calling TBS sell outs but by far straylight run are not. Im pretty sure they didnt write that song so they could get it played on laguna beach. Sell out equals someone changing their sound/style/morals/ethics to conform or get somewhere new and straying away from who they really are or what they started. it would be an example(an extreme one) but anti flag all of the sudden saying we are going to sing about how we love george bush because we will get 5 million for it. seeing as existentialism was the first song straylight run released along with the 2 others because i was there...the only thing that changed was the quality of the songs. you cant define sell out based on where your hearing their music being played in the background. the format performed and was on sweet sixteen...pretty sure they didnt sell out. Dont open your mouth to suck cock before you know whos balls are in your mouth. So shut up

[love_american_style]

Dont open your mouth to suck cock before you know whos balls are in your mouth. So shut up

hahahaha.....i'll have to remember that one.

[smogs]

Dont Do It Dont Do It Dont Do It.

[staticandclarity]

so i was googling some shit and found this: http://www.absolutepunk.net/archive/index.php?t-23562.html
it's pretty interesting...this part especially:
Jason: Well, that sort of ties into my next question. How do you feel about Taking Back Sunday playing songs that you, John, helped write – and Shaun helped create?

John: Well, I definitely have no problem with it; but to be honest there is something strange to me about it. It really just, doesn’t seem .. real. Something is not right or natural about it because I feel that those songs were very much a product of the five of us that were in the band. And obviously you can get other people to come in and do what Shaun and me did on those songs, but the writing of those songs was something that was extremely collaborative and extremely ..

Shaun: … and was extremely heartfelt, from the bottom of our hearts, something that we were trying to express.

John: Yah, everything – even the music, not just the lyrics. And there’s something to me that’s just strange about it, and I really hope that they start working, and try to move on and start working on new music as soon as they can, and not just playing those songs that we wrote over and over and over again. Of course though, whatever they do is up to them, and is totally in their hands. I would never try and stop them, or complain about it – it’s just a strange situation.

finally a useful post. this helps what i was wanting to say. did you know that sometimes people can tell when someone puts their whole heart into something? everything they have? all the money? everyone complains about a dumb hissing sound in the background of tell all your friends...maybe they invested all of their money they had to record that album and that was the best quality that could come out of their budget. Fred and Matt might be better technical musicians but you cant remove how good a songwriter someone is from technicality. my guitar teacher was an amaaaazing guitarist. But he isnt making big music in a big band because he doesnt know how to write good songs. sometimes people are just better at writing certain music and what not. And in my opinion John was. i think it would be silly for them to re-record it...sorta living in the past in a way...but its their band and they can do w/e they want. But the truth of the matter is that Tell All Your Friends is a moment captured in time. it cant and WONT ever be able to be recreated and have the same chemistry or some wierd effect that you get when you listen to it. but thankfully im just glad that i have the original and no one can take that away. but the magic is gone. the heart of it is remained in that cd.

[ozzysaxman]

is this TBS's way of saying we can't write classics anymore?

[asdfjkl]

that's a pretty strange idea, but i'd honestly be interested in hearing what they did with it.

[falloutdrea19]

finally a useful post. this helps what i was wanting to say. did you know that sometimes people can tell when someone puts their whole heart into something? everything they have? all the money? everyone complains about a dumb hissing sound in the background of tell all your friends...maybe they invested all of their money they had to record that album and that was the best quality that could come out of their budget. Fred and Matt might be better technical musicians but you cant remove how good a songwriter someone is from technicality. my guitar teacher was an amaaaazing guitarist. But he isnt making big music in a big band because he doesnt know how to write good songs. sometimes people are just better at writing certain music and what not. And in my opinion John was. i think it would be silly for them to re-record it...sorta living in the past in a way...but its their band and they can do w/e they want. But the truth of the matter is that Tell All Your Friends is a moment captured in time. it cant and WONT ever be able to be recreated and have the same chemistry or some wierd effect that you get when you listen to it. but thankfully im just glad that i have the original and no one can take that away. but the magic is gone. the heart of it is remained in that cd.


EXACTLY. THANK YOU.

[TomAce]

i actually wouldnt mind it at all, in my oppinion i think TAYF is extremely over rated. Its a good cd, but at least to me, it was far from ground breaking, and at tmes the lyrics really get too cheesy for me (I.e. i got the mic and you got the moshpit...that line always made me cringe). I think if everyone stopped thinking the negatives and focused on the positives, it wouldnt be such a bad thing. A) The drums wouldnt sound like garbage B) The flows of the songs wouldnt be so choppy C) The sound as a whole would just be tighter D) In my oppinion Freds vocals blow John out the water, and Lazzaras vocals have only gotten better since than. I can understand some people holy grail attitude towards this, but change isnt always a bad thing.

[sean omerta]

what exactly is the hint?

[starcrossdlovex]

wouldnt buy it....unless john agreed to do all his parts on it
I'd say the chances of that are .00000000000000000000000000001%.

nooo! record a new cd, dont waste your time.
You just made that FAR too easy. It's so easy that I almost don't want to mention that if TBS recorded a new cd, they would be wasting their time in my eyes.
My problem with TBS is that I hold everything post-TAYF to the same standard I have for TAYF. & I know nothing they do will ever come close to that album, but it's just how I still see them. They sort of dug themselves into a hole by having TAYF first, they can't ever live up to that again to me.

& on another note, if I had a dollar for every time I read "sellout" in this thread...
& probably three quarters of the people who said it can't actually define it. So many people call bands sell outs; it's like they heard someone say it somewhere & liked how it sounded.


Anyway, like I said earlier, I don't think the legalities of this could EVER clear.
Oh, how I love these gossip/rumor threads

[tragedyco]

i dont know, i think it would kind of cool.

[TheBaroness]

I assume they want to do this to get the license for TAYF back from Victory...Warner probably wanted to re-release it but Brummel wouldn't allow them the rights to it.

[BroekHosen]

Awesome album, horrible idea.
They need to let it be.

[hayz1887]

no. I like the new sound better than the old.

John wasnt a very good songwriter IMo

straylight sucks


you have no intelligence , you shouldnt listen to music, and shouldnt be alive for that statement... normally i think that people are way to hard on everyone in their responses in the threads but u may be the dumbest person in existance...

[sparksfly]

not even going to read any of these replies.

worst idea ever. i will be so upset if they do this. while i don't consider myself a tbs fan anymore that cd is still one of my all time favorites. to rerecord it would be terrible.

[Chris Fallon]

This is how you get the dogs rouled up - mention a news bit like this, and BAM! 245 posts later...we all come to realize this can't possibly be true.

Is TBS really that stupid? I'd hope not!

[JacksColdSweat]

if this happens john nolan and jesse lacey will have to slap some bitches

[JacksColdSweat]

i actually wouldnt mind it at all, in my oppinion i think TAYF is extremely over rated. Its a good cd, but at least to me, it was far from ground breaking, and at tmes the lyrics really get too cheesy for me (I.e. i got the mic and you got the moshpit...that line always made me cringe). I think if everyone stopped thinking the negatives and focused on the positives, it wouldnt be such a bad thing. A) The drums wouldnt sound like garbage B) The flows of the songs wouldnt be so choppy C) The sound as a whole would just be tighter D) In my oppinion Freds vocals blow John out the water, and Lazzaras vocals have only gotten better since than. I can understand some people holy grail attitude towards this, but change isnt always a bad thing.


wow

[Venona]

I wouldnt mind them re-recording Tell All Your Friends if John Nolan and Shawn Cooper were still in the band.
but sadley Fred is no John
and Matt is no Shawn