Soriano To White Sox

[ColourandShape]

Not sure if this was already posted. If it was then sorry i'll delete it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2528494

Can the White Sox resign after this year? He reportedly wants 60 mil. And i hear Brandon McCarthy is nasty.

[xbrokendownx]

i posted it in the mlb thread but its ok

the title of your post is a bit deceiving, as its not a done deal yet

[xearlynovemberx]

wowsas ws champs again

[livethesounds]

Hm...I hate the ChiSox...I hate Ozzie Guillen. Who the hell attacks one of their best pitchers because they failed to bean a guy. What an ass.
I wish soriano would go to a team that REALLY needs him.

[xbrokendownx]

ive said it before, and ill say it again...the white sox wont repeat.


take that shit to the bank

[ColourandShape]

I think this move puts the WSox over the Tigers. Soriano and Thome? shit

[livethesounds]

ive said it before, and ill say it again...the white sox wont repeat.


take that shit to the bank

Yea, i dont think they will either. Im saying the Rangers get in in the West. They beat the Chi Sox & Detroit takes the BoSox in the first round of the playoffs. Sorry i just felt the need to make a random playoff prediction in July.

[xbrokendownx]

the white sox have a VERY slim lead in the wild card...its 2.5 over NY, 3 over the twins, and 4.5 over toronto


its not like 9 like it was a few weeks ago. they arent even a lock for the playoffs, let alone to repaet as WS champs

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

Yea, i dont think they will either. Im saying the Rangers get in in the West. They beat the Chi Sox & Detroit takes the BoSox in the first round of the playoffs. Sorry i just felt the need to make a random playoff prediction in July.

detroit would play the team with the worst record, so you are assuming the rangers post a better record than the red sox?

[xbrokendownx]

detroit would play the team with the worst record, so you are assuming the rangers post a better record than the red sox?




unless its chicago ( i think. i dont think you can play a team in your own division in the first round)

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

well yeah thats why i didnt mention them

[livethesounds]

detroit would play the team with the worst record, so you are assuming the rangers post a better record than the red sox?

I was actually under the impression the team with the best record played the wildcard team unless it was in the same division. if im wrong maybe it thought that because the team that has the wild card usually has the worst record.
In that case obviously the Rangers would play Detroit.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

ok even if the best record did play the wild card team, why would the red sox be the wild card team if you have both detroit and chicago in the playoffs?

[Brownpants06]

The white sox aren't even going to make the playoffs, who are the chisox kidding?

[Colin Farrell]

Nats will sign Soriano back at the end of the season anyways.

[livethesounds]

ok even if the best record did play the wild card team, why would the red sox be the wild card team if you have both detroit and chicago in the playoffs?

nvm. your right. i had it switched up.

[bigmike]

I think this move puts the WSox over the Tigers. Soriano and Thome? shit
Unless Soriano's hiding a great fastball/slider combination he's not helping a team by adding more offense and weakening their already mediocre pitching. Basically, right now I look at them as the AL Central's version of the Texas Rangers. with bigger names in the pitching rotation, yet they're still a mediocre staff.


great move sox :rolleyes: .




Oh, and whoever is complaining because ozzie chewed out garland for not hitting the guy should just shut up. it was made clear that if Padilla hit someone ozzie expected Garland to retaliate. You hit him, get warned, then it's done with for the day and you move on.

but then again, Garland can't hit anything but opponents bats, so i don't know what Ozzie was thinking.

[PunkVideoGuys]

Oh, and whoever is complaining because ozzie chewed out garland for not hitting the guy should just shut up. it was made clear that if Padilla hit someone ozzie expected Garland to retaliate. You hit him, get warned, then it's done with for the day and you move on.

but then again, Garland can't hit anything but opponents bats, so i don't know what Ozzie was thinking.

exactly. that guy is an idiot. He's just upset because he's an astros fan and they got their asses kicked last year. It's funny how biased everyone is in this thread. the guy from texas thinks the RANGERS (?!?!) are going to win the AL west, the guy from NY thinks the yanks are gonna win the wildcard. I think it's funny that everyone thinks the white sox, of all teams can't bounce back. doesn't anyone remember last year when we almost blew the lead andf won 15 of 16 in the playoffs? The offense is amazing, overall the starting pitching is good, the closer is awesome. It's just the bullpen that we need help with. I don't think we're going to catch the tigers unless they have some sort of crazy meltdown though...

[bjam12]

Unless Soriano's hiding a great fastball/slider combination he's not helping a team by adding more offense and weakening their already mediocre pitching. Basically, right now I look at them as the AL Central's version of the Texas Rangers. with bigger names in the pitching rotation, yet they're still a mediocre staff.


great move sox :rolleyes: .




Oh, and whoever is complaining because ozzie chewed out garland for not hitting the guy should just shut up. it was made clear that if Padilla hit someone ozzie expected Garland to retaliate. You hit him, get warned, then it's done with for the day and you move on.

but then again, Garland can't hit anything but opponents bats, so i don't know what Ozzie was thinking.

it was Vazquez, not Garland.

[bigmike]

exactly. that guy is an idiot. He's just upset because he's an astros fan and they got their asses kicked last year. It's funny how biased everyone is in this thread. the guy from texas thinks the RANGERS (?!?!) are going to win the AL west, the guy from NY thinks the yanks are gonna win the wildcard. I think it's funny that everyone thinks the white sox, of all teams can't bounce back. doesn't anyone remember last year when we almost blew the lead andf won 15 of 16 in the playoffs? The offense is amazing, overall the starting pitching is good, the closer is awesome. It's just the bullpen that we need help with. I don't think we're going to catch the tigers unless they have some sort of crazy meltdown though...
sorry bud, but your rotation isn't good. too many inflated numbers that are only being hid because your offense is the best in the league. You'll slug your way to wins and probably make the playoffs, but come playoff time, you're not getting your multiple complete games like last year. not to mention, no you're replacing mccarthy basically with MacDougal? c'mon now.

[PunkVideoGuys]

jim leyland is going to be too tired come playoff time and just randomly fall asleep during games...

[bigmike]

it was Vazquez, not Garland.
that would make more sense since Vazquez is struggling right now with an era around like 6.50 in his last like 7 or 8 starts.


jim leyland is going to be too tired come playoff time and just randomly fall asleep during games...
haha, no way, the dude chain smokes like nothing you've ever seen. I'm waiting for the cameras to catch him heading into the tunnel to the clubhouse for a few drags inbetween hitters.

[DaveFeelsRight]

well now, poop my fucking asshole.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

Is this for sure a done deal or Williams' way of driving up the price for Soriano? I can't imagine they really have a place for him unless Iguchi is going to be moved.

[bigmike]

Is this for sure a done deal or Williams' way of driving up the price for Soriano? I can't imagine they really have a place for him unless Iguchi is going to be moved.
CF is what i guess is likely if he goes to the white sox.

[mikeford]

they'd probably move pods to center and let soriano play LF

[bigmike]

they'd probably move pods to center and let soriano play LF
good point. that'd make sense.

but the most sensical thing would be to not pick him up for mccarthy.

[DaveFeelsRight]

another thing is, where would soriano be in the lineup? hes obv a lead off type of guy currnet lineup is

Podsednik
Iguchi
Thome
Konerko
Dye
Pirzyenski
Crede
Uribe
Anderson

[NetNerdsRevenge]

another thing is, where would soriano be in the lineup?
he is not a leadoff guy. He is a middle of the order power guy. An almost .600 slg is not leadoff.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

they'd probably move pods to center and let soriano play LF
that does make sense actually. but do you move a promising young pitcher for a rental? Unless they assume they can sign him again.....

[bigmike]

that does make sense actually. but do you move a promising young pitcher for a rental? Unless they assume they can sign him again.....
even though he could play LF for the white sox i don't like the trade. they beef up their hitting, which they didn't need, and weaken their bullpen, where they needed to add people. not to mention, mccarthy was supposed to be in the rotation next year. and i don't see soriano signing anywhere where he can't play 2B everyday.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

btw, how wrong were we about Soriano??? I thought RFK would kill him, but I guess he found the gaps to his liking.

[bigmike]

btw, how wrong were we about Soriano??? I thought RFK would kill him, but I guess he found the gaps to his liking.
i thought he struggle a whole lot. i was terribly wrong.

[Caleb Cattivera]

i just listened about this trade on espn radio. and a member of the nationals front office was interviewed and he said this deal is nowhere close to being done, and that as of right now the front runners are the angels and tigers.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

i would assume that is just the Nats front office trying to drive up the price for Soriano, its very weird to hear a member of the front office speak publically on something like that.

[Caleb Cattivera]

i think he goes to anaheim. they have more prospects to give than anyone in the running.

[FondestMemory]

he'll end up a yankee.

maybe not by the trade deadline, but in the offseason.

[xbrokendownx]

he'll end up a yankee.

maybe not by the trade deadline, but in the offseason.






he'll have nowhere to play, unless he wants to move to RF, assuming we let sheffield walk

[bigmike]

he'll end up a yankee.

maybe not by the trade deadline, but in the offseason.
no way.

[Caleb Cattivera]

haha the yankees could buy the best player from every team...and still wouldnt make the series.

[Jesse2]

he'll end up a yankee.

maybe not by the trade deadline, but in the offseason.

i don't see that happening

[irishpunk14]

He won't go to the White Soxs.

[mikeford]

he'll be a yankee. sheffield is outta there after this season. he is ripshit they didnt pick up his option for next year.

[irishpunk14]

he'll be a yankee. sheffield is outta there after this season. he is ripshit they didnt pick up his option for next year.Exactly.

[xbrokendownx]

he'll be a yankee. sheffield is outta there after this season. he is ripshit they didnt pick up his option for next year.




eh


id move matsui to right then, if hed be willing. LF in yankee stadium is a fucking adventure, and soriano has the speed needed

[ColourandShape]

I'm amazed at Soriano's play at RFK. Remeber all that drama about moving to left? Doesn't seem to have affected him at all. I kinda want to see him stay in Washington. That city fucking loves baseball and haven't had shit going for them in awhile. But I'll think he'll bolt in the off season to the highest bidder that will let him play 2nd.

[ColourandShape]

Where the hell is Abreu going?

[EnderDove]

As a Nationals fan I would LOVE for them to Get McCarthy.

[bjam12]

they'd probably move pods to center and let soriano play LF

If that would happen, the Sox defense would be absolutely atrocious in the OF. Pods has no arm and Alf is still learning the OF.

[xbrokendownx]

If that would happen, the Sox defense would be absolutely atrocious in the OF. Pods has no arm and Alf is still learning the OF.




soriano leads the league in OF assists


make of that what you will

[bjam12]

soriano leads the league in OF assists


make of that what you will

True, but he's tied for second in the league for most errors by an outfielder.

[xbrokendownx]

id like soriano, but we dont need him this year. next year when sheff leaves he'll be a nice replacement

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Chicago White Sox vs. Houston Astros

I'll say it again..

The Sox gotta squad, but after this year, I see Soriano leaving and going to another team. He's been all over the league, and it's weird, cause he's good.

[xbrokendownx]

Chicago White Sox vs. Houston Astros

I'll say it again..

The Sox gotta squad, but after this year, I see Soriano leaving and going to another team. He's been all over the league, and it's weird, cause he's good.




the astros wont even make the playoffs....

[GoWaitInTheCar]

the astros wont even make the playoffs....

If The Astros make the playoffs, they'll be in The World Series.

It may be a big if, but I've got faith in them.

[LeftWideOpen]

Is this for sure a done deal or Williams' way of driving up the price for Soriano? I can't imagine they really have a place for him unless Iguchi is going to be moved.

yeah, plus the only source I've seen this from is Tim Kurkijan and ESPN. This deal will be shot down by the end of the day.

i think he goes to anaheim. they have more prospects to give than anyone in the running.

I agree with this. They desperately need a bat and they can overpay to get it. With the AL West being the way it is, this is the kind of deal that puts Anaheim over the top and makes them the undeniable favorite to come out of that division. He'll wind up an Angel.

[ColourandShape]

The more I think about this trade the worse it gets. The White Sox have no need at all for Soriano. Why would they need another bat? They need pitching and McCarthy is gonna be good, and Soriano is as good as gone at the end of the year

[ColourandShape]

The Sox are apparently not willing to move McCarthy, the deal is on hold....could be out the window now

[xbrokendownx]

i call BS on thsi whole thing. it was prob the nats just trying to boost his trade value up even higher

[livethesounds]

i call BS on thsi whole thing. it was prob the nats just trying to boost his trade value up even higher

Yea i bet he stays in Washington.

[LeftWideOpen]

Yea i bet he stays in Washington.

theres about a 5% chance of that happening. This Chicago deal is BS because it's boosting his value to other teams, not because Soriano will stay in Washington.

[FondestMemory]

theres about a 5% chance of that happening. This Chicago deal is BS because it's boosting his value to other teams, not because Soriano will stay in Washington.

exactly. even if they end up trading him for less than what he's worth, they have to do it.

he won't be back next year and he's not getting them anywhere this year. get what you can out of him and move on. if they don't unload him, they should move the team back to montreal as a punishment.

[asianxcore]

its weird in illinois, i had never seen a white sox fan before last year, now everyone is.

[Vincewithouthee]

Haha there's no way that he goes to the White Sox. They don't even need him.

Yeah, like someone else said, he's most likely to go to the Angels.

[FondestMemory]

Haha there's no way that he goes to the White Sox. They don't even need him.

Yeah, like someone else said, he's most likely to go to the Angels.

they don't need him, but if they can get him for the right price, there's no reason for them not to take him.

even if it's for the very reason just to prevent him from going to another team that's on their tales, pushing them over the edge.

[livethesounds]

the astros wont even make the playoffs....

its pretty dumb to talk in certainties when ur talking about teams that will and wont make the nl playoffs. right now the only thing you can really say is the mets WILL make the playoffs & the pirates & cubs WONT.

[xbrokendownx]

its pretty dumb to talk in certainties when ur talking about teams that will and wont make the nl playoffs. right now the only thing you can really say is the mets WILL make the playoffs & the pirates & cubs WONT.





i say it again-


the astros will not make the playoffs.

[livethesounds]

i say it again-


the astros will not make the playoffs.

The Yankees wont make the playoffs.

[xbrokendownx]

The Yankees wont make the playoffs.






thats fine, even though i know youre just saying that to piss me off

we have a 100% better chance of making it then the astros do, ill tell yout hat much

[livethesounds]

thats fine, even though i know youre just saying that to piss me off

we have a 100% better chance of making it then the astros do, ill tell yout hat much

Yankees have a better team, yes, but the red hot Twins are right on their heels. Sure they can probably catch the White Sox because they are struggling, but i think between Min & Chi (if they get back on track) its gonna be too much for the yanks. both teams have a good shot at the playoffs, wether u want to think that or not. stros are 5 back right now, they play the wild card leader reds tonight.

[xbrokendownx]

Yankees have a better team, yes, but the red hot Twins are right on their heels. Sure they can probably catch the White Sox because they are struggling, but i think between Min & Chi (if they get back on track) its gonna be too much for the yanks. both teams have a good shot at the playoffs, wether u want to think that or not. stros are 5 back right now, they play the wild card leader reds tonight.





the yankees aer 1.5 back of chicago and 2.5 back of the red sox. minnesota has been playing .800 baseball and are STILL behind us. they wont keep up their hot streak the rest of the year

[livethesounds]

the yankees aer 1.5 back of chicago and 2.5 back of the red sox. minnesota has been playing .800 baseball and are STILL behind us. they wont keep up their hot streak the rest of the year

Well lets see, A-Rod is gonna have a nervous breakdown if everyone keeps booing him when he dosent reach base when he goes 3-4 on the night. The pitching is terribly inconsistant. While Joe Mauer keeps getting better and better, Liriano & Santana continue to be lights out, and the team as a whole is just clicking. im glad you KNOW they wont keep their hot streak up and inevitably the yankees will come through this all and make the playoffs.

[xbrokendownx]

Well lets see, A-Rod is gonna have a nervous breakdown if everyone keeps booing him when he dosent reach base when he goes 3-4 on the night. The pitching is terribly inconsistant. While Joe Mauer keeps getting better and better, Liriano & Santana continue to be lights out, and the team as a whole is just clicking. im glad you KNOW they wont keep their hot streak up and inevitably the yankees will come through this all and make the playoffs.







so you honestly think the twins are going to continue the pace theyre on?


and if you dont think the yankees have a better shot at the playoffs than the astros you must be on crack

[livethesounds]

so you honestly think the twins are going to continue the pace theyre on?


and if you dont think the yankees have a better shot at the playoffs than the astros you must be on crack

They probably have better team chemistry than the Yanks do, that can go along way. look at detroit. did anybody think they were gonna keep this up? they keep getting better and better. Of course the yanks have a better chance if they are 1.5 games out and the stros are 5 games out, then yes you would be stupid to say they dont. I say that they have a shot, the yankees do too, although i dont think they will make the playoffs. dont talk in certanties next time and well be cool.

[NetNerdsRevenge]

i call BS on thsi whole thing. it was prob the nats just trying to boost his trade value up even higher
See, I see it the other way. I think it was Chicago's way of driving up the price for Detroit. If the Tigers get Soriano in the middle of their order, that team will be unstoppable.


About those assists....Manny led the league in assists a year ago and he has the reputation/actually is, a poor fielder. Soriano stunk the house at second and he is stinking it out in left. However, left field is a less demanding defensive position than second. Bowden was smart to move him.

[bigmike]

See, I see it the other way. I think it was Chicago's way of driving up the price for Detroit. If the Tigers get Soriano in the middle of their order, that team will be unstoppable.


About those assists....Manny led the league in assists a year ago and he has the reputation/actually is, a poor fielder. Soriano stunk the house at second and he is stinking it out in left. However, left field is a less demanding defensive position than second. Bowden was smart to move him.
he'd have to be playing LF here. we'd probably give up monroe and a prospect or two. humberto sanchez is who i think we'd give up but i'm not sure.