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justinevans
07/28/06, 08:33 AM
The Milwaukee Brewers are trading slugger Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers as part of a multiplayer deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.

The Brewers are sending Lee, minor league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero and outfielders Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix.

Lee was the Brewers' team leader with 28 home runs and 81 RBI.

Cordero started the season as the Rangers' closer, but was replaced by Akinori Otsuka in late April after blowing three saves.

Both teams are checking for any medical issues before consummating the deal.

The Rangers are currently two games behind the Athletics in the American League West.

LeftWideOpen
07/28/06, 08:47 AM
I was just going to post this ... acquiring Carlos Lee certainly isnt a bad thing, but this still doesnt solve their pitching woes.

but now with Young, Tex, Lee and Blalock ...they have one of, if not the best, foursome in baseball.

bjam12
07/28/06, 08:50 AM
Wow. Do you think the Rangers will re-sign him at the end of the year?

LeftWideOpen
07/28/06, 08:52 AM
Wow. Do you think the Rangers will re-sign him at the end of the year?

I would think so. I think Carlos Lee and that hot Texas air is a match made in heaven.

who knows though, Texas could just be making a push for the West and they didn't give up too much to get Lee. Therefore, they won't be setback too much if they choose not to sign him.

justinevans
07/28/06, 08:53 AM
I would think so. I think Carlos Lee and that hot Texas air is a match made in heaven.

he may even lose 15 pounds down there.

TBSowns524
07/28/06, 08:54 AM
I was just going to post this ... acquiring Carlos Lee certainly isnt a bad thing, but this still doesnt solve their pitching woes.

but now with Young, Tex, Lee and Blalock ...they have one of, if not the best, foursome in baseball.

that is really solid, but texieria and blalock are having sub-par years

i would say wright, beltran, reyes, delgado is probably better

VoiceoffCamera
07/28/06, 08:55 AM
I'm a huge Brewers fan and really don't understand this trade at all. Why give up Nelson Cruz, who is the Brewers best prospect and most MLB ready player in the system. Hopefully Doug Melvin is going to trade Mench or Jenkins before Monday for some more pitching.

Base3Studd
07/28/06, 08:55 AM
sweet cordero can go lose games for someone else

SC0926
07/28/06, 08:58 AM
im super pissed at this trade....there was some talk..but i didnt think they were actually going to go through with it. b.s.

Yankees' #1 Fan
07/28/06, 09:24 AM
so, cordero wasnt even closing in texas, will he be closing now for the brewers after turnbow has started to suck

mikeford
07/28/06, 09:36 AM
nah danny kolb is the closer again.

livethesounds
07/28/06, 12:00 PM
notice that pretty much every NL closer sucks now. strange. I hope this is a good move for the rangers, nix and mench are good players.

NetNerdsRevenge
07/28/06, 02:05 PM
EDIT: stupidity

Broken Parachute
07/28/06, 02:08 PM
I wonder what Drew thinks about this trade. I like the trade because the Rangers are trying to getting better.

xbrokendownx
07/28/06, 02:24 PM
I wonder what Drew thinks about this trade. I like the trade because the Rangers are trying to getting better.






no theyre not. they already had a top 5-7 offense in the majors, they didnt need to add another bat.

Broken Parachute
07/28/06, 02:27 PM
no theyre not. they already had a top 5-7 offense in the majors, they didnt need to add another bat.
If they were gonna get Lee, they should have given up a bat to get another pitcher.

LeftWideOpen
07/28/06, 02:29 PM
no theyre not. they already had a top 5-7 offense in the majors, they didnt need to add another bat.

so Carlos Lee doesnt make them better? thats silly.

did they address their most pressing need? No. But they still got a hell of a lot better by adding Carlos Lee to an already potent lineup.

xbrokendownx
07/28/06, 02:29 PM
If they were gonna get Lee, they should have given up a bat to get another pitcher.




exactly.

they actually LOST pitching. cordero had been doing pretty well in the set up man role

bigmike
07/28/06, 04:48 PM
so Carlos Lee doesnt make them better? thats silly.

did they address their most pressing need? No. But they still got a hell of a lot better by adding Carlos Lee to an already potent lineup.
were you on boat for the white sox getting soriano? If you think that was a bad move you can't think this is a good move for texas. trading away a reliever where basically any arm is a welcomed arm for the rangers to just increase their lineup. I still don't think they make the playoffs, but that's more hingent on what the angels/a's do or don't do.

LeftWideOpen
07/28/06, 05:45 PM
were you on boat for the white sox getting soriano? If you think that was a bad move you can't think this is a good move for texas. trading away a reliever where basically any arm is a welcomed arm for the rangers to just increase their lineup. I still don't think they make the playoffs, but that's more hingent on what the angels/a's do or don't do.

Fransisco Cordero is not as important to the success of the Rangers as McCarthy is to the White Sox. Anyone who has watched cordero pitch this season knows that he was doing more harm than good. Lets not forget that he started the season as closer but couldnt keep a lead for the first two months of the year. His ERA is barely under 5.00 and he only just managed that at the beginning of July.

The Rangers still have Otsuka, Mahay, Bauer, Benoit and Littleton ..all which have better numbers than Cordero. The Rangers got the Brewers to bite on his potential based on what he's done before, rather than what he's doing now.

But like I said, is this deal a slam dunk for Texas? No. They still need to upgrade the pitching ..but this trade does them much more good than harm. They got better as a team today, even though they didnt address their main concern.

bigmike
07/28/06, 05:56 PM
Fransisco Cordero is not as important to the success of the Rangers as McCarthy is to the White Sox. Anyone who has watched cordero pitch this season knows that he was doing more harm than good. Lets not forget that he started the season as closer but couldnt keep a lead for the first two months of the year. His ERA is barely under 5.00 and he only just managed that at the beginning of July.

The Rangers still have Otsuka, Mahay, Bauer, Benoit and Littleton ..all which have better numbers than Cordero. The Rangers got the Brewers to bite on his potential based on what he's done before, rather than what he's doing now.

But like I said, is this deal a slam dunk for Texas? No. They still need to upgrade the pitching ..but this trade does them much more good than harm. They got better as a team today, even though they didnt address their main concern.
they've had great great lineups for over a decade and don't have anything but early postseason exits to show for it. did they take milwaukee to the cleaners? eh... did they get the better of the trade? yes.

i still don't think this puts them over the top because of their bad pitching.

GoWaitInTheCar
07/28/06, 05:58 PM
I wonder what Drew thinks about this trade. I like the trade because the Rangers are trying to getting better.

I was thinking the same thing..


I dunno, I think Mench and Nix are good. If you asked me both teams didn't do to bad.

LeftWideOpen
07/28/06, 05:58 PM
they've had great great lineups for over a decade and don't have anything but early postseason exits to show for it. did they take milwaukee to the cleaners? eh... did they get the better of the trade? yes.

i still don't think this puts them over the top because of their bad pitching.

oh, i agree. They still need to address their pitching ....but if the Angels and A's do nothing to improve their lineups, then I think the Rangers could take the West. Their deficiences in the pitching department arent as drastic as the Angels and A's hitting woes. I think Carlos Lee, if he winds up being the only guy brought into the division, could make the difference.

GoWaitInTheCar
07/28/06, 05:59 PM
Obviously The Rangers got the better end, but The Brew Crew got something decent in return...

bigmike
07/28/06, 06:06 PM
oh, i agree. They still need to address their pitching ....but if the Angels and A's do nothing to improve their lineups, then I think the Rangers could take the West. Their deficiences in the pitching department arent as drastic as the Angels and A's hitting woes. I think Carlos Lee, if he winds up being the only guy brought into the division, could make the difference.
i still think they angels win the division.

NetNerdsRevenge
07/28/06, 07:27 PM
did Texas give up too much for Lee? They could use more power (they trail to the top teams in runs, homeruns, and slg%. albeit, not by a lot), but is that worth it when the bigger problem is pitching and Lee is around of half a season?

DaveFeelsRight
07/28/06, 07:29 PM
carlos lee was favorite sox player, its kinda nice seeing him return to the AL.

StandMyBrothers
07/28/06, 09:04 PM
Mench hasn't been hitting well for the past like 2 months...I think this was a good trade for the Rangers. If they can get him to re-sign and maybe get a decent FA pitcher this year's off-season, they may compete for the West Title....When does Adam Eaton come back?

xbrokendownx
07/28/06, 09:08 PM
http://nj.com/weblogs/jersey/pics/0613_mench.jpg


http://animation.dreamworksfansite.com/shrek/design/headers/header_shrek.jpg

LeftWideOpen
07/28/06, 09:08 PM
Mench hasn't been hitting well for the past like 2 months...I think this was a good trade for the Rangers. If they can get him to re-sign and maybe get a decent FA pitcher this year's off-season, they may compete for the West Title....When does Adam Eaton come back?

he's back. he started against the Yankees a few days ago, but had control problems. He lasted 3.2 giving up 3 runs on 1 hit and 4 BB's.

the rangers really arent in that bad of shape, pitching wise. They aren't at the bottom of the AL, but more in the middle. Throwing Millwood, Padilla and Eaton in a short series isnt too bad either. They'll be there in the end ....but the AL West is wide open so predicting a winner is tough.

NetNerdsRevenge
07/29/06, 12:07 AM
Mench hasn't been hitting well for the past like 2 months...I think this was a good trade for the Rangers. If they can get him to re-sign and maybe get a decent FA pitcher this year's off-season, they may compete for the West Title....When does Adam Eaton come back?
part of that problem is because Mench has been thrown around line-up. When/if he gets consistent playing time I expect him to improve. If anything, catch up to Lee's obp totals.