Underoath Leaves Warped

[Tony Pascarella]

Underoath (http://www.absolutepunk.net/underoath) have left Warped Tour due to personal reasons. They were not suspended or asked to leave by the tour, but will not be finishing out the final two weeks.

[xeightoh3xx]

I hope this isn't another FFTL type episode.

[xdrummerxdudex]

uggh i was looking forward to seeing them. oh well.

[kelio]

awe shit man, then they arent going to play in philly :(

[BIGDeVriendt]

hahahaha OMG what perfect news FOR ME! warped is tomorrow and He Is Legend and Underoath BOTH cancelled!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a boner kill. bands always drop off of warped im sick of this shit

[willsm]

why did this news just disappear from the main page? and why did underoath just leave? I'm not going but if I was, dammit, I'd want some answers.

[willsm]

ok, my bad, it's just appeared again. not making this stuff up

[FOBPrettyNPunk]

Sucks, I was hoping to catch their set..

[Katie Schmitz]

Personal Reasons = none of anyone else's business.

Yet.

[gonz]

Wow this just ruined my summer.

I hope everything is alright with the band, though.

[PaintTheTarget]

this sucks, i'm going on thursday and was really looking forward to their set. i hope everything is alright with them, but if they are leaving for some lame reason they better do some explaining, cause its not cool for a headliner to just drop off.

[mo0ink]

I Hate You Ap
You Bring Tears And Ruin My Nights

[xearlynovemberx]

damn

[mo0ink]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKCKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk

[Katie Schmitz]

I Hate You Ap
You Bring Tears And Ruin My Nights
Yes, because AP makes bands leave Warped.

[HoboAdam]

i blame fat mike

[Ryan Phantom]

i saw this warped tour diary thing on fuse and fat mike kept making fun of underoath for being christian

[munkey]

I Hate You Ap
You Bring Tears And Ruin My Nights

2 days.... 2 days!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!

[MotionIsntMeaning]

That sucks donkey balls. I wanted to see them so bad. F#@%

[bjam12]

I hope it doesn't have anything to do with Fat Mike and NOFX.

[Tony Pascarella]

why did this news just disappear from the main page? and why did underoath just leave? I'm not going but if I was, dammit, I'd want some answers.Because I was on the phone confirming it when I posted it and I decided to wait until I finished asking all the questions I needed to before putting it up (in case there was anything I needed to add or clarify.

[Fades2Black]

WTF??? whats the freakin deal with warped. i mean come on, how many bands have droped out this summer? this is getting ridiculas. One of the FEW bands i was really looking forward to seeing and they have to drope out just in time for Bristow. Fuck.

[shoop]

thats fuckin stupid.. why does this shit always happen a day before shows at detroit.. same deal with poison the well announcing the fucking day of the show they wont be playing.. lameo

[Tony Pascarella]

I'm sorry to the people that won't get to see them. But I think a lot of you would be more pissed if we didn't post it. I talked to someone who said they've had a ton of people come up to them today and ask when UO is playing and he had to tell them that they're not.

[NFG4ever]

Well that fucking sucks , I was hoping to check them out in Barrie

[IcedOpethBlind]

Underoath (http://www.absolutepunk.net/underoath) have left Warped Tour due to personal reasons. They were not suspended or asked to leave by the tour, but will not be finishing out the final two weeks.
WOW. sucks for those who have dates left.

[NFG4ever]

if Fat Mikes the problem, Underoath have gotta grow some balls and kick some fucking ass

[[Mike]]

And let the AP user rumor mill begin...

[PunkENG]

Jesus did not approve of them being on warped tour. Get back in church and get a haircut!

[MasonR5]

that sucks for the fans; UO was one of my favorite sets at my two warped stops...i highly doubt they dropped off just cuz of Fat Ass Mike, but that dude still needs to keep his mouth shut sometimes.

[alreadyheardit]

I hope it doesn't have anything to do with Fat Mike and NOFX.

i'm fucking sick of fat mike. i'm a very liberal dem., and supported his politics in the last election, but he is marketing fear and bigotry and hatred toward a group of people.

i thought that's one of the things he hated about bush..

[myworstmistakes]

i've said this before, but i'm gonna say it again, i'm so glad i decided not to go to warped this year.

[IcedOpethBlind]

NOFX is pretty shitty.

[_kelly]

my asshat of a friend decided that since fftl dropped off a while ago, and now that underoath also dropped off that he doesnt "feel like going anymore" so i now have no ride =[

[(joeyman)]

fuuuuck man. first reggie, now underoath. and its only like 5 days away for me. no more anyone dropping out.

and yeah, to whoever said its better to be posted now before you go. acceptance decided not to play the mass date last year. i was not too happy. i kept making sure i just wasnt missing them on the schedule but amber pacific's frontman confirmed it for me.

[Drew Beringer]

I just hope this doesn't lead to anything bad.

[NFG4ever]

wow warped sucks now , im not even pumped to go anymore

no body gives a fuck about us canadians , no AFI , SAO , now UO

only bands im pumped to see are Anti-Flag and Rise Against

[IcedOpethBlind]

I just hope this doesn't lead to anything bad.
doubt it, these guys need to seriously blow up even more with DTGL.

[Baconrocks]

Im about to cry.....I was going for them and FFTL. Liek seriously, Im so mad. Im gonna cry. My two favorite bands. I hate this

[NFG4ever]

Warped Tour needs to make the Canadian dates better , fuck they suck horribly now

[PunkENG]

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike then they need to realize that they are a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see if underoath is still releasing kick ass albums in 20 years. Most likely they will be selling bible out of the back of their van.

[evilchino]

i heard that they found skulls in the drummers apt.

pass it on

[IcedOpethBlind]

Im about to cry.....I was going for them and FFTL. Liek seriously, Im so mad. Im gonna cry. My two favorite bands. I hate this
you're going to cry?!
like seriously?

[IcedOpethBlind]

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike then they need to realize that they are a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see if underoath is still releasing kick ass albums in 20 years. Most likely they will be selling bible out of the back of their van.
you are pathetic.
what a ridiculous comment.

[LoserlyFirefly]

That sucks. I'm glad I got to see them at the San Diego date.

[slxwdancx104]

i'm sad. first fftl left, than he is legend, and now underoath. i was really looking forward to seeing them next thursday. i hope everything is alright with the guys.

[Drew Beringer]

NOFX hasn't released a good album in ages.

[End is Forever]

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike then they need to realize that they are a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see if underoath is still releasing kick ass albums in 20 years. Most likely they will be selling bible out of the back of their van.
Shut the fuck up you piece of shit.

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike and NOFX's comments about Christianity that sucks. UO are too good to let that get to them though, I hope everythings ok.

[PunkENG]

NOFX hasn't released a good album in ages.

Wolves in Wolves Clothing is awesome, plus Punk In Drublic is an all time punk classic.

[xTJx]

wow warped sucks now , im not even pumped to go anymore

no body gives a fuck about us canadians , no AFI , SAO , now UO

only bands im pumped to see are Anti-Flag and Rise Against

At least we have the Canadian UO headining tour

[Jason Tate]

Boozing.

[IcedOpethBlind]

Boozing.
no

[Jason Tate]

no
:drunk:

[GQMike of TSPR]

As asinine a comment as PunkENG made, it does hold some water. You all can't deny that uO will more than likely not be a band that will stick around for years to come and continue to make "ground breaking" music. They're not doing anything that much different. And this is most likely a type of music that isn't going to be a staple in the music scene for many years.

With that said however, this is very sad to see, but when you are continually getting persecuted for making the kind of music you make, playing it for the largest crowds at Warped, all the while trying to have an uplifting message for the kids that goes in turn with their music, getting made fun of by the punk bands and members who think the music scene has turned to shit because of bands like uO, then why WOULD you wanna stay on the tour? That was a really long sentence.

When they came through Dallas tho, they had the biggest crowd all day. And when Spencer says they're doing it for Jesus Christ, the crowd applauded him. Not one boo-bird. He doesn't say you all should be saved. Damn your souls for not being a Christian. They love all their fans the same. That's more than I can say for most of the punk bands that are on this tour. Being torn down because of your beliefs is just sad and pathetic. The truth is, a LOT of people believe in this band and their music. And I think a part of Fat Mike, as well as others in the punk/true hardcore scene, are dissapointed to see the scene where its going. uO just seems to be taking the fall.

[xTJx]

In need to booze tonight...hard

[IcedOpethBlind]

:drunk:
:dry:

[Baconrocks]

you're going to cry?!
like seriously?

Shut up. For gods sake Warped tour is my only chance to see these bands cause my friends listen to Sean Paul. UnderOAth is my favorite band of all time and really changed my life. Shut up, I can barely type Im so mad.

[IcedOpethBlind]

As asinine a comment as PunkENG made, it does hold some water. You all can't deny that uO will more than likely not be a band that will stick around for years to come and continue to make "ground breaking" music. They're not doing anything that much different. And this is most likely a type of music that isn't going to be a staple in the music scene for many years.

What, and NOFX is?!

DTGL is spectacular, and UnderOath are definitely at the top of the pack in their respective genre right now.
I think they have plenty more material in them.

[Jason Tate]

:dry:
:shrugs:

[IcedOpethBlind]

Shut up. For gods sake Warped tour is my only chance to see these bands cause my friends listen to Sean Paul. UnderOAth is my favorite band of all time and really changed my life. Shut up, I can barely type Im so mad.
:unsure:

[LeaveHerAlone]

Wolves in Wolves Clothing is awesome, plus Punk In Drublic is an all time punk classic.

NOFX is the shittiest band on that bill.
Ask Fat Mike to sing ANY of the stuff that Aaron does,
and he won't be able to.
Because Fat Mike can't sing, he can grunt.
At least Underoath doesn't release the same album twice,
or 20 times like NOFX.
That's all I'm saying.
And Christianity is not something to mock, man.
Just because they believe in something you don't, gives you
no right to go and belittle what they believe. It's not like
they're asking you to believe in it.
So go put on your sleeveless leather jacket with patches
cruedly sewn on that you probably bought at Hot Topic
along with your plaid pants and quit being such an asshole.

[PunkENG]

As asinine a comment as PunkENG made, it does hold some water. You all can't deny that uO will more than likely not be a band that will stick around for years to come and continue to make "ground breaking" music. They're not doing anything that much different. And this is most likely a type of music that isn't going to be a staple in the music scene for many years.

With that said however, this is very sad to see, but when you are continually getting persecuted for making the kind of music you make, playing it for the largest crowds at Warped, all the while trying to have an uplifting message for the kids that goes in turn with their music, getting made fun of by the punk bands and members who think the music scene has turned to shit because of bands like uO, then why WOULD you wanna stay on the tour? That was a really long sentence.

When they came through Dallas tho, they had the biggest crowd all day. And when Spencer says they're doing it for Jesus Christ, the crowd applauded him. Not one boo-bird. He doesn't say you all should be saved. Damn your souls for not being a Christian. They love all their fans the same. That's more than I can say for most of the punk bands that are on this tour. Being torn down because of your beliefs is just sad and pathetic. The truth is, a LOT of people believe in this band and their music. And I think a part of Fat Mike, as well as others in the punk/true hardcore scene, are dissapointed to see the scene where its going. uO just seems to be taking the fall.

Very well stated. I love NoFX and this year's warped tour sucked anyway. All the good bands (Bouncing Souls, Rise Against, Anti-Flag) have done or are going to do nation wide tours meaning no shitty 30 minute line up and no corporate sponsorship bombardment.

[MotionIsntMeaning]

NOFX hasn't released a good album in ages.

True story.

[Drew Beringer]

Punk In Drublic is a good album, but since then they've just been rehasing the same shit.

[Of Dust and Nations]

well that blows, the day before my date. :( hope everything's alright. on the bright side this gives me another half hour to check out a band i havent heard much of or something, which is what the rest of you should do. that helped me get into hit the lights last year.

[sparkedcreation]

i bet it was because of the shit with fat mike and nofx

[PunkENG]

NOFX is the shittiest band on that bill.
Ask Fat Mike to sing ANY of the stuff that Aaron does,
and he won't be able to.
Because Fat Mike can't sing, he can grunt.
At least Underoath doesn't release the same album twice,
or 20 times like NOFX.
That's all I'm saying.
And Christianity is not something to mock, man.
Just because they believe in something you don't, gives you
no right to go and belittle what they believe. It's not like
they're asking you to believe in it.
So go put on your sleeveless leather jacket with patches
cruedly sewn on that you probably bought at Hot Topic
along with your plaid pants and quit being such an asshole.

I got nothing against Christianity, I was just making a joke. Christianity just gets a bad rap because most Christians are pro-life, conservative, condescending assholes. I bet Underoath doesn't fit this bill, but personally I joke about them because I think their music is lame.

[TSLManager]

They definetly don't fit that stereotype and they arent afraid of critisism


I got nothing against Christianity, I was just making a joke. Christianity just gets a bad rap because most Christians are pro-life, conservative, condescending assholes. I bet Underoath doesn't fit this bill, but personally I joke about them because I think their music is lame.

[[Mike]]

As asinine a comment as PunkENG made, it does hold some water. You all can't deny that uO will more than likely not be a band that will stick around for years to come and continue to make "ground breaking" music. They're not doing anything that much different. And this is most likely a type of music that isn't going to be a staple in the music scene for many years.
That can be said about at least half of the bands out in the "music scene" today, if not more.

[IcedOpethBlind]

They definetly don't fit that stereotype and they arent afraid of critisism
are you really The Starting Line's manager?

[GQMike of TSPR]

I am a n00b at posts/reading threads on this board. But a lot of you need to grow up and respect differences of opinion in music/band taste. I'm sure this will never happen, and it's been said 1000 times before.

Seriously tho, resorting to tearing each other down doesn't really quite make your opinion count that much more. In fact, in only lessens it.

"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most of them stink."

[ilovebsb]

if i were underoath i'd so punch fat mike in the face as much as i love old nofx

[GQMike of TSPR]

']That can be said about at least half of the bands out in the "music scene" today, if not more.

Couldn't agree more.

[bjam12]

The more I think about it, I doubt it has anything to do with NOFX.

[FstFtsVsFences]

I love how whenever something even remotely close to NOFX is said, you've got all these guys coming out of the dark to represent and up tha punx! :punk:

Really though, NOFX just needs to throw in the towel.

[_all_star_me_]

that sucks.

[bjam12]

I love how whenever something even remotely close to NOFX is said, you've got all these guys coming out of the dark to represent and up tha punx! :punk:


haha, so true.

[Colin Farrell]

bands over

[TSLManager]

are you really The Starting Line's manager?

Yes, TSL, Say Anything, UO and the Almost

[PunkENG]

NoFX > Underoath

[IcedOpethBlind]

Yes, TSL, Say Anything and UO
whoa.
well, i hope you enjoy your job.
i'd kill to manage bands like those.

Are TSL in studio right now?
edit: actually, yeah, you look familiar from one of the UO dvd's.

[RichAnth]

wow that sucks. good thing i just saw them yesterday front row. it was amazing.

[Rohan Kohli]

NoFX > Underoath

What makes them better?

[nickstetina]

fuck is right. i wish somethign about it would leak out, haha. underoath has done warped tour before right? maybe it was too hot out, they forgot their sunscreen and had to go home.

[Tony]

When Warped came here, I walked in and caught the last few songs of Underoath's set, and right before their last song, they said their whole "we do this for Jesus, and we don't say that to upset anyone or try to convert anyone, we just want you to know." After their last song, The Bouncing Souls came out and Bryan was like "hey guys, we're The Bouncing Souls, the band that doesn't ask you to believe in anything except yourself."

And during NOFX's set, Fat Mike kept going off about how he'd let his Christian friend write the setlist (which opened with "Eat The Meek" and was very SLATFATS-heavy) and also kept making fun of the setlist that he'd wrote and blamed it on the fact that the dude was Christian.

So, basically, from what I've observed, there's quite the anti-Christian sentiment on this year's Warped. And it would seem that Underoath has had enough. Then again, I don't know all the details.

[irishpunk14]

Not cool.

[oldprospector]

i heard that they found skulls in the drummers apt.

pass it on

Yeah, if convicted he could be in prison for a lifetime
har har har

PS I also heard he's a stipper on the side. pass it on.

[PunkENG]

What makes them better?

They have done every musical genre. They can write hilarious songs (Don't call me white, Franco Unamerican), ska songs (eat the meek), and they wrote and performed "The Decline" probably the best punk song of all time.

[Jason Tate]

When Warped came here, I walked in and caught the last few songs of Underoath's set, and right before their last song, they said their whole "we do this for Jesus, and we don't say that to upset anyone or try to convert anyone, we just want you to know." After their last song, The Bouncing Souls came out and Bryan was like "hey guys, we're The Bouncing Souls, the band that doesn't ask you to believe in anything except yourself."

And during NOFX's set, Fat Mike kept going off about how he'd let his Christian friend write the setlist (which opened with "Eat The Meek" and was very SLATFATS-heavy) and also kept making fun of the setlist that he'd wrote and blamed it on the fact that the dude was Christian.

So, basically, from what I've observed, there's quite the anti-Christian sentiment on this year's Warped. And it would seem that Underoath has had enough. Then again, I don't know all the details.
Fat Mike is one of the most closed minded people - ever. He pisses me off to no end sometime.

[operator]

this should not influence any of you.
The fact of the matter remains:
Saves The Day is still playing-TWICE!


i guess the sound for underoath wasnt good enough

[Audition101]

WTF this is ridiculous something must be done.... they were the main reason i wanted to go to warped

[PunkENG]

When Warped came here, I walked in and caught the last few songs of Underoath's set, and right before their last song, they said their whole "we do this for Jesus, and we don't say that to upset anyone or try to convert anyone, we just want you to know." After their last song, The Bouncing Souls came out and Bryan was like "hey guys, we're The Bouncing Souls, the band that doesn't ask you to believe in anything except yourself."

And during NOFX's set, Fat Mike kept going off about how he'd let his Christian friend write the setlist (which opened with "Eat The Meek" and was very SLATFATS-heavy) and also kept making fun of the setlist that he'd wrote and blamed it on the fact that the dude was Christian.

So, basically, from what I've observed, there's quite the anti-Christian sentiment on this year's Warped. And it would seem that Underoath has had enough. Then again, I don't know all the details.

If Underoath isn't trying to convert anyone then how come they say constantly they are "doing this for Jesus". If they are Christian that's fine, but some people just get irritated when people keep outwardly confessing their faith. By doing so they are indirectly professing it to the crowd. They should just play music.

[supadupa003]

They have done every musical genre. They can write hilarious songs (Don't call me white, Franco Unamerican), ska songs (eat the meek), and they wrote and performed "The Decline" probably the best punk song of all time.

I wasn't aware 'hilarious songs' and 'best punk song of all time' were genres of the scene. I must be really behind.

[XxDrumsxX]

This sucks, Philly always gets screwed being at the end, bands always drop off. someone start a petition to get the tour reversed next year! Since Cali always gets good shows, let them be last.

[Rohan Kohli]

They have done every musical genre. They can write hilarious songs (Don't call me white, Franco Unamerican), ska songs (eat the meek), and they wrote and performed "The Decline" probably the best punk song of all time.

Just wondering, who decided that their songs are hilarious, ska sucks, and who decided that "The Decline" is probably the best punk song of all time?

[thisisadisaster]

If Underoath isn't trying to convert anyone then how come they say constantly they are "doing this for Jesus". If they are Christian that's fine, but some people just get irritated when people keep outwardly confessing their faith. By doing so they are indirectly professing it to the crowd. They should just play music.

the same can be said that fat mike should shut his mouth and just play music.

1. he was discriminating against a band for what they believe

2. wasnt fat mike telling people on warped in 04 who to vote for? they do have an album cover with a cartoon of bush and an album of songs about how he doesnt need to be president right? the fact of the matter is, he was PREACHING a POLITICAL MESSAGE. telling people who to vote for or how to believe. if anything at least underoath wasnt telling you how to believe. they were just saying what they do believe.

[Drew Beringer]

the same can be said that fat mike should shut his mouth and just play music.

1. he was discriminating against a band for what they believe

2. wasnt fat mike telling people on warped in 04 who to vote for? they do have an album cover with a cartoon of bush and an album of songs about how he doesnt need to be president right? the fact of the matter is, he was PREACHING a POLITICAL MESSAGE. telling people who to vote for or how to believe. if anything at least underoath wasnt telling you how to believe. they were just saying what they do believe.
Eh, don't worry, we all know Fat Mike is an ignorant and hypocritical dude and that his best days are behind him so he needs to start up shit to stay relevent.

[shane hennessey]

Balls. Atleast std, mwy and thursdat are still on

[BigMouthStrikes]

There's probably a good chance that Underoath leaving the tour has nothing to do with Fat Mike, more to the point it's extremely unlikely that if Fat Mike was involved Underoath will openly comment.

[nickstetina]

If Underoath isn't trying to convert anyone then how come they say constantly they are "doing this for Jesus". If they are Christian that's fine, but some people just get irritated when people keep outwardly confessing their faith. By doing so they are indirectly professing it to the crowd. They should just play music.
Freedom of speech. I agree that if they just left their religous beliefs on the tour bus and could just play music for 30 minutes that would be good but if they insist on saying thqat, then so what? Just because they reiterate the fact that they are christians does not mean that they are trying to change peoples religous beliefs.

[nickstetina]

the same can be said that fat mike should shut his mouth and just play music.

1. he was discriminating against a band for what they believe

2. wasnt fat mike telling people on warped in 04 who to vote for? they do have an album cover with a cartoon of bush and an album of songs about how he doesnt need to be president right? the fact of the matter is, he was PREACHING a POLITICAL MESSAGE. telling people who to vote for or how to believe. if anything at least underoath wasnt telling you how to believe. they were just saying what they do believe.

very well said.

[Shatter_Glass]

Uh oh, someone was caught wanking. Seriously though this is lame, well atleast mewithoutYou jumped on.

[thisisadisaster]

Eh, don't worry, we all know Fat Mike is an ignorant and hypocritical dude and that his best days are behind him so he needs to start up shit to stay relevent.

haha. hey drew. ive been lurking for along time and never talked to you, but i your pretty much my favorite person on ap.

[Shatter_Glass]

Fat Mike is one of the most closed minded people - ever. He pisses me off to no end sometime.

Amen. I really cannot believe some of the things that he has done and said about Christianity alone, let alone other issues. (Remember that blog that he sat in on at "Warped Bible Study" or whatever, totally ignorant) I caught him saying stuff in passing, because God knows I wouldnt be caught dead listening to an NoFx set.

[PunkENG]

Freedom of speech. I agree that if they just left their religous beliefs on the tour bus and could just play music for 30 minutes that would be good but if they insist on saying thqat, then so what? Just because they reiterate the fact that they are christians does not mean that they are trying to change peoples religous beliefs.

Yeah I guess so, but I kind of understand because for most of my life I went to Christian school. I left because everyone at those Christian schools wouldn't shut up about thanking Jesus for everything and openly confessing their faith 24/7. My belief is that whoever you believe in, it should be a personal spiritual relationship. What you believe is up to you, some people just get irritated hearing about it.

[thisisadisaster]

very well said.

thank you.

it just bothers me that noone cares if a band tells you who to vote for,

but if they say they think christianity is cool its a crime all the sudden.

[Tony]

Fat Mike is one of the most closed minded people - ever. He pisses me off to no end sometime.
Agreed. I'd have to say that I lost a lot of respect for him that day. I've never even seen NOFX play except at Warped Tour, and I don't think they've ever come around here in the 3 years between Warped appearances. I love NOFX, but I hate the shit he pulls on stage. They seriously wasted about 10-15 minutes of their set time just fucking around and even cut into Thursday's set time a little (but only because Thursday was the last band of the day).

If Underoath isn't trying to convert anyone then how come they say constantly they are "doing this for Jesus". If they are Christian that's fine, but some people just get irritated when people keep outwardly confessing their faith. By doing so they are indirectly professing it to the crowd. They should just play music.
Professing != Converting

I thought they way they chose to express their love for Jesus was very tasteful and in no way preachy. Comments from The Bouncing Souls and Fat Mike were not tasteful at all. Besides that, they didn't say it "constantly." They just said it the one time at the end of their set.

[Shatter_Glass]

If Underoath isn't trying to convert anyone then how come they say constantly they are "doing this for Jesus". If they are Christian that's fine, but some people just get irritated when people keep outwardly confessing their faith. By doing so they are indirectly professing it to the crowd. They should just play music.

So they take say 15 seconds out of their set to profess why they are a band and shoot straight from the heart!? HOW FAKE! I'd much rather hear 43 year old ass clowns yelling about how "Bush isn't THEIR President"...oh wait...no I wouldnt....

[x togepi x]

So, basically, from what I've observed, there's quite the anti-Christian sentiment on this year's Warped. And it would seem that Underoath has had enough. Then again, I don't know all the details.
I doubt this because UO probably deals with stuff like this all the time. I bet it's a family situation or someone got sick and they don't want to trumpet it to everyone.

but what you people have to realize is that many people feel that christianity is opressive/bad/whatever. They have just as much right to bash Christians as you have to bash them for expressing their anti-christian views. get off your high horse unless you're being truly tolerant and saying something like: "i disagree with what fat mike has to say about christianity and feel it is hypocritical, but he has the right to say it."

[Shatter_Glass]

I doubt this because UO probably deals with stuff like this all the time. I bet it's a family situation or someone got sick and they don't want to trumpet it to everyone.

but what you people have to realize is that many people feel that christianity is opressive/bad/whatever. They have just as much right to bash Christians as you have to bash them for expressing their anti-christian views. get off your high horse unless you're being truly tolerant and saying something like: "i disagree with what fat mike has to say about christianity and feel it is hypocritical, but he has the right to say it."

Agreed. Who knows though, they will adress it though, you know that.

[KB3RG]

NOFX is the shittiest band on that bill.
Ask Fat Mike to sing ANY of the stuff that Aaron does,
and he won't be able to.
Because Fat Mike can't sing, he can grunt.
At least Underoath doesn't release the same album twice,
or 20 times like NOFX.
That's all I'm saying.
And Christianity is not something to mock, man.
Just because they believe in something you don't, gives you
no right to go and belittle what they believe. It's not like
they're asking you to believe in it.
So go put on your sleeveless leather jacket with patches
cruedly sewn on that you probably bought at Hot Topic
along with your plaid pants and quit being such an asshole.

well said

[MotionIsntMeaning]

Yeah I guess so, but I kind of understand because for most of my life I went to Christian school. I left because everyone at those Christian schools wouldn't shut up about thanking Jesus for everything and openly confessing their faith 24/7. My belief is that whoever you believe in, it should be a personal spiritual relationship. What you believe is up to you, some people just get irritated hearing about it.

Take your own advice. All you've done in this thread is bash Underoath, bash Christianity, and profess your love for NoFx.

[PunkENG]

Take your own advice. All you've done in this thread is bash Underoath, bash Christianity, and profess your love for NoFx.

I'm not bashing Christianity, I'm just bashing people who outwardly state their Christianity.... and Underoath

[x togepi x]

Agreed. Who knows though, they will adress it though, you know that.

maybe they will, maybe they won't. it might not be our business. i mean yeah, people were probably going to warped to see them, but if it's really personal, we don't really have to know.

[Shatter_Glass]

I'm not bashing Christianity, I'm just bashing people who outwardly state their Christianity.... and Underoath

Oh, so in other words: don't be real? Brother, c'mon. Don't let you bad expierience with a Christian school make you grow so cold! Don't let that small group of people ruin your view.

[Pooavenger]

It's prolly cause NOFX. they totally ripped them a new one both times I saw them. good times.

[werealldudes19]

wow.
im sad

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike then they need to realize that they are a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see if underoath is still releasing kick ass albums in 20 years. Most likely they will be selling bible out of the back of their van.
The christian jokes are soooooo funny. You're an idiot.

[NFG4ever]

Fat Mike loooooooves the fat cock

[Shatter_Glass]

Yeah I don't think NoFx has released a "kick ass" album in atleast ninetee-....Oh wait.....

[AshesAshes]

Fat mike must have really got to them

[grace we bestow]

I'm not bashing Christianity, I'm just bashing people who outwardly state their Christianity.... and Underoath
What a joke.

[AshesAshes]

Yeah I don't think NoFx has released a "kick ass" album in atleast ninetee-....Oh wait.....
Their new album was pretty good.Underoath will be unheard of in ten years at least nofx will still be known

[MotionIsntMeaning]

I'm not bashing Christianity, I'm just bashing people who outwardly state their Christianity.... and Underoath

What do you care? Why do other people's beliefs bother you? If you dont want to hear them talk about their beliefs, then don't go see them. If you don't like Underoath, then don't post in threads about them. Its simple. Talking shit and acting like your opinions are the only ones that matter just makes you look like a jackass.

[Tony]

but what you people have to realize is that many people feel that christianity is opressive/bad/whatever. They have just as much right to bash Christians as you have to bash them for expressing their anti-christian views. get off your high horse unless you're being truly tolerant and saying something like: "i disagree with what fat mike has to say about christianity and feel it is hypocritical, but he has the right to say it."
Dude, I wasn't on any high horse. I was just stating what I observed over the course of the day. Nowhere was I bashing Christians or anti-Christians.

[saveyourshows]

Maybe Underoath, He Is Legend, and FFTL are going on tour together?

BTW im not a christian and i have no personal belief in anything related to this, but i work with alot of christian bands and ive seen UO several times, and i dont have any problem with how they promote their own beliefs. EVERY band that takes the stage at warped has something opinionative to say, i remember ETID Promoting the "fondling of your girlfriend" at about 11 am.


ALso if they're all going on tour together i think they should pull ETID off and have a fuckin PARTYYYYYYY!!!!

[rewindthistime]

aww....well....best of luck to the band.....hopefully everything is ok with them

[Shatter_Glass]

Their new album was pretty good.Underoath will be unheard of in ten years at least nofx will still be known

Why will they be "unheard of" in ten years? What does ten years have to do with NoFx sucking right now?

[BIGDeVriendt]

this turned into a NOFX VS. Underoath discussion quickly, lol. who even said NOFX had anything to do with them leaving?

[PaintTheTarget]

this thread is stupid now....just shutup everybody

[futurcorerock]

I wonder what it would've been like if they were devout Muslims?

[BIGDeVriendt]

this thread is stupid now....just shutup everybody


agreed

[Poultrylicious]

Why will they be "unheard of" in ten years? What does ten years have to do with NoFx sucking right now?
seriously, even if NOFX where famous a hundred years from now, it wouldn't matter cause their assholes

[x togepi x]

Dude, I wasn't on any high horse. I was just stating what I observed over the course of the day. Nowhere was I bashing Christians or anti-Christians.

Yeah i know you weren't. it was more of an afterthought directed at what happens everyone talks about fat mike and underoath. i just didn't want to make two posts back to back. sorry about that.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Thought they were so-so I'm glad I got see them in Scranton, PA.

The crowd. was. out. of. control.

[ProblemWithFire]

I'm not taking sides on this...I like NOFX's music, do not care for Underoath's stuff.

NOFX has some really great releases and some really poor ones. I have a feeling Underoath WON'T be performing those same songs when they're in their 30s or 40s or even be around that long as a band...imagine 40 year old men with the same side part hair cuts and and tight jeans, that would look hilarious, I mean it already does, but even more so.

Propagandhi>>>>everyone else.

[*crying stars*]

i hope everything is okay...

[MotionIsntMeaning]

I'm not taking sides on this...I like NOFX's music, do not care for Underoath's stuff.

NOFX has some really great releases and some really poor ones. I have a feeling Underoath WON'T be performing those same songs when they're in their 30s or 40s or even be around that long as a band...imagine 40 year old men with the same side part hair cuts and and tight jeans, that would look hilarious, I mean it already does, but even more so.

Propagandhi>>>>everyone else.

Or imagine 40 year old men with green hair and mohawks performing the same lame punk-rock songs they wrote 20 years ago. That would look hilarious.

[camery182]

lol its funny just to look at all of this. i mean honestly, this is a forum, people are gonna post their opinions no matter how smart or stupid it is. if you can sit there and be mad about what people say then u are on the wrong site. as for my opinion, i dont need an opinion, who cares honestly, there are a ton of bands to see at warped. just because ur favorite band isnt there doesnt mean you cant have a good time. also, im sure underoath will tour again eventually.

[Adrianduh]

Can someone just confirm this?
Its not on their site yet so..?

[Co and Ca]

i got to see them at my date. they were better last year, but still good nonetheless

[BIGDeVriendt]

I ageree with you, underoath was like one of the only reasons I paid $36 to fucking bake in Comerica Parks lot. FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
yea d00d total bummer. ill see u there!

[shes.a.ghost]

My guess is that they left because it was exposing them to too many temptations (girls, alcohol). So they decided to leave before they fell into those things, or they already have, and they now feel guitly and dont want it to happen again.

[Tony Pascarella]

Can someone just confirm this?
Its not on their site yet so..?Consider it confirmed.

They did not leave the tour because Fat Mike "pissed them off."

And seriously, I'm an atheist. I don't believe in any god, higher power, et cetera. But I don't have a problem with Christian bands spending 10 seconds talking about God or saying "God bless you." They play music and they believe in something. Isn't that what it's supposed to be all about in the first place? Fat Mike follows a similar trend, but he spends the entire set talking about it and hates on other bands and people.

I like both bands; I saw UO at Warped and that's really what made them click with me. But why people feel the need to be complete douchebags on here and hate on a band because of what they believe in (which really doesn't affect any of you)--it just doesn't make sense to me.

[Lemieux66]

Glad to know that their ministry isn't important enough for them to continue on. Thanks guys.

[Adrianduh]

Thank you and amen tony.

[shes.a.ghost]

Glad to know that their ministry isn't important enough for them to continue on. Thanks guys.

wow you are an idiot

[yeah]

Glad to know that their ministry isn't important enough for them to continue on. Thanks guys.
glad to know that you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[sensesfail18782]

i'm fucking sick of fat mike. i'm a very liberal dem., and supported his politics in the last election, but he is marketing fear and bigotry and hatred toward a group of people.

i thought that's one of the things he hated about bush..

Didn't you know? PuNx are right and Bush is wrong, even if they have the same basic values at the core. It's just a simple fact.

Seriously though, I'm a Democrat but I get so sick of "punk rock bands" and their politics and them telling impressionable youth what to believe. Fuck off and let the kids form their own opinions, and quit bashing people and their beliefs when they aren't the same as yours, when you're ragging on other people for doing the same shit to you in your songs!

I'm so over this "I'm punker than thou" bullshit mentality. Fuck off and play some fucking music, write a song with stupid lyrics or whatever, but quit hating and bashing people because they have different beliefs than you. A true "punk" is someone who accepts everyone regardless of race, creed, religious preference, lifestyle preference, etc.

[oldprospector]

I wonder what it would've been like if they were devout Muslims?

Everyone! Lets all stop fighting, convert to islam, and make a totally awesome ass kicking muslim hardcore band called Overzealous (haha get it, instead of underoath?) or something.

[Lemieux66]

wow you are an idiot

Yep. No one's been maimed, tortured, or murdered for their beliefs before...and forget the crusades or anything...these Underoath guys certainly have it the worst anyone has had it before. Not to mention the thousands of fans on any given day that will stay and see them and give them positive feedback. So their plan was to stay on the dates in the south, preach to the choir, and then when they go to the north they let some fat cokehead asshole's comments override their message and quit. Whatever.

I have a lot of respect for this band, their music, and even their message. It's just sad to see that when the going gets tough they'd rather not spread their message and instead just go home.

[yeah]

Yep. No one's been maimed, tortured, or murdered for their beliefs before...and forget the crusades or anything...these Underoath guys certainly have it the worst anyone has had it before. Not to mention the thousands of fans on any given day that will stay and see them and give them positive feedback. So their plan was to stay on the dates in the south, preach to the choir, and then when they go to the north they let some fat cokehead asshole's comments override their message and quit. Whatever.

I have a lot of respect for this band, their music, and even their message. It's just sad to see that when the going gets tough they'd rather not spread their message and instead just go home.

once again, i don't think you really know what you're talking about. it doesn't make sense to me that you say you have a lot of respect for underoath, and then you make these claims about them. you have no proof that what you said is true. i honestly doubt that is the reason they left, and if it is, so what.

[sensesfail18782]

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike then they need to realize that they are a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see if underoath is still releasing kick ass albums in 20 years. Most likely they will be selling bible out of the back of their van.

You're a douchebag, "punk boy".

[CHRISRIPPEDOUT]

this thread is pretty rediculous

[Lemieux66]

once again, i don't think you really know what you're talking about. it doesn't make sense to me that you say you have a lot of respect for underoath, and then you make these claims about them. you have no proof that what you said is true. i honestly doubt that is the reason they left, and if it is, so what.

So your rebuttal to what I said is pretty much "nuh uhhhh". Great. I'm not going to waste my time.

[ProblemWithFire]

Or imagine 40 year old men with green hair and mohawks performing the same lame punk-rock songs they wrote 20 years ago. That would look hilarious.

Well, you're completely right, it looks just as stupid. Maybe a tad less than the Underoath cross-dressing, but just as moronic and trendy.

[lilnoah2]

we could sit here and argue all day about NOFX vs UO (which we all know underoath is clearly the better band) but the real question is why did they drop off. that is what i would like to know.

[ProblemWithFire]

Glad to know that their ministry isn't important enough for them to continue on. Thanks guys.

lol. Come on, how is that NOT funny??

Good point, ya know...unless UnderOath has got something serious going on in their personal lives, isn't this a cope out on their witnessing to, like, all those impressionable girl and boys in side part harcuts and 14 year old girls jeans to get 2 know Christ!?!?

[kittypants]

i'm not going to speculate. i'm just going to suggest that they got burnt out. they've been touring nonstop since they finished recording Define The Great Line

[ProblemWithFire]

we could sit here and argue all day about NOFX vs UO (which we all know underoath is clearly the better band) but the real question is why did they drop off. that is what i would like to know.

NOFX helped pioneer pop punk/skate music in the early to late nineties, have their own record label, some really solid releases, etc. Are they still relevent? Maybe not, but to say a band full of kids who've risen to the pile of ever-growing MTV2 sing/scream/girl jeans metalcore bandwagon for a few years (they used to be much heavier if you remember) is BETTER is hilarious.

[PEPSI]

i seen them yesterday and they seemed happy and glad to be on tour.

[yeah]

So your rebuttal to what I said is pretty much "nuh uhhhh". Great. I'm not going to waste my time.
nah, i just think its pretty absurd that you're equating warped tour to the crusades.

[Nual09]

Or imagine 40 year old men with green hair and mohawks performing the same lame punk-rock songs they wrote 20 years ago. That would look hilarious.

fuck fat mike, i used to be a fan, a huge fan...but now i can't stand that hypocritical bastard. he needs to realize that he's almost fucking 40. fat mike uses the stage as a pulpit as well as underoath. fat mike and other antichristian assholes only pick on underoath and other "christian" bands because they are easy targets.

its bogus and childish. its as lame as his formulated recycled punk songs.

[Kiss Of Octopus]

i have say. this picture alone is better than anything underoath has ever done and ever will do.

http://altpress.com/specials/warped2006/bands/nofx.jpg

muwahaha.

fuck underoath.

[mikearduini9]

Didn't you know? PuNx are right and Bush is wrong, even if they have the same basic values at the core. It's just a simple fact.

Seriously though, I'm a Democrat but I get so sick of "punk rock bands" and their politics and them telling impressionable youth what to believe. Fuck off and let the kids form their own opinions, and quit bashing people and their beliefs when they aren't the same as yours, when you're ragging on other people for doing the same shit to you in your songs!

I'm so over this "I'm punker than thou" bullshit mentality. Fuck off and play some fucking music, write a song with stupid lyrics or whatever, but quit hating and bashing people because they have different beliefs than you. A true "punk" is someone who accepts everyone regardless of race, creed, religious preference, lifestyle preference, etc.

That is nearly word-for-word what UnderOATH says in their 'preach', if you will. So what is the argument about? This thread should be closed.

[Nolessthanblink]

Shut up. For gods sake Warped tour is my only chance to see these bands cause my friends listen to Sean Paul. UnderOAth is my favorite band of all time and really changed my life. Shut up, I can barely type Im so mad.

You are the exact reason that people make fun of chicks that go to shows and what not... I can't believe that you're so crushed. if they were like, your favorite band like, of all time, then like, i figured like, taht you like, would have already seen them before like, yeah... totally.

[terriblecrashh]

i saw this warped tour diary thing on fuse and fat mike kept making fun of underoath for being christian

fat mike is an asshole and he's only there to offend people. I would get sick of his shit fast and leave too.

I don't blame them, no matter how mad it makes me that they dropped.

[jerkstore20]

i'm glad that i laughed hysterically when i saw that uO and Maylene and the Sons of Disaster were playing at the exact same time in Columbus, and then watched Maylene play instead because they say what they mean and aren't a bunch of back-stabbing hypocrits.

TRUE TIL DEATH.
Jason.



That sucks. I'm glad I got to see them at the San Diego date.

[PaintTheTarget]

i have say. this picture alone is better than anything underoath has ever done and ever will do.

http://altpress.com/specials/warped2006/bands/nofx.jpg

muwahaha.

fuck underoath.


true that. i like underoath and all, but that picture is still the best thing of the summer. oh man....

[PEPSI]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7761/dsfsdfmw4.jpg

[AshesAshes]

Why will they be "unheard of" in ten years? What does ten years have to do with NoFx sucking right now?
The point is that shitty band nofx will have more impact on bands and will be heard of longer than "Amazing" Underoath

[MattVictory]

The rumor I've heard flying around is that the band is parting ways with Spencer....don't know if its true or not...I heard it from someone in the From First to Last camp.

[lilnoah2]

The rumor I've heard flying around is that the band is parting ways with Spencer....don't know if its true or not...I heard it from someone in the From First to Last camp.

wow, that would be pretty big. also though, before jumping to conclusions, remember this is from a band whose vocalist fellates their guitarist.

[AEast317]

first the fall of troy
then from first to last
then gatsby's american dream
then he is legend
and the night before im guessing, underoath

all cancelled their warped dates that concluded indianapolis. pretty freaking upsetting. im not upset about FFTL, but the rest yeah.

warped was today. everyone was upset about underoath. no one knew why. not even people on the tour.

was still great with all the cancellations, just gives you less options so you dont have to miss someone.

[grace we bestow]

The rumor I've heard flying around is that the band is parting ways with Spencer....don't know if its true or not...I heard it from someone in the From First to Last camp.
From First To Last has no idea what they are talking about. They aren't even on warped tour anymore. They played 3 dates and then stopped. Therefore I wouldn't believe anything they say. It's also funny how everyone is assumming it was because of Fat Mike. He's been saying stuff to them the whole tour, they wouldn't stop now with two weeks left because of it. Everyone needs to stop guessing and just wait it out to see what Underoath have to say about it. This thread has become just a soap box for everyone to preach their beliefs and about who is better nofx or underoath. It's stupid, because we all have opinions about what music we like and what music we don't like. Oh well, this thread is ridiculous..

[starcrossdlovex]

most Christians are pro-life, conservative, condescending assholes.
Please don't say "most." You only think that because you're only aware of those christians that speak out in the media and make themselves heard. You never hear about the christians that love and accept and forgive everyone. The nonjudgemental christians aren't ever in the public eye, and it's a shame that some old fashioned hypocrites are seen as the majority of a religion.

I'm not taking sides on this...I like NOFX's music, do not care for Underoath's stuff.

NOFX has some really great releases and some really poor ones. I have a feeling Underoath WON'T be performing those same songs when they're in their 30s or 40s or even be around that long as a band...imagine 40 year old men with the same side part hair cuts and and tight jeans, that would look hilarious, I mean it already does, but even more so.

well, it's a good thing you decided to not take sides.

This whole thread's been ridiculous. I hope it's something we can get a definitive answer to and make this thread stop.

[futurcorerock]

Everyone! Lets all stop fighting, convert to islam, and make a totally awesome ass kicking muslim hardcore band called Overzealous (haha get it, instead of underoath?) or something.

You know, I'd almost consider doing that since you KNOW this would get a ton of press.

The next great AP band: Mohammed

[weekend_warrior]

WHAT THE FUCK

arhhhhhhhhh. im so pissed.

[70x7]

I'm just curious, but the people who say they aren't Christian, do you still celebrate Christmas? It seems like there are some people pretty against the whole Christian thing, so are you pretty bummed on Christmas Day when nothing under the tree is for you or do you not care? I'm not really trying to be a dick, but I always wonder that when religion comes up on this site. Because I'm sure people aren't Christian for a good reason and that's cool, but we all know there has to be a few brats on here who denounce Christianity, but would throw a total shit fit if they didn't something from Santa.

[mogwaifearsatan]

most Christians are pro-life, conservative, condescending assholes.

You are by far the largest fucking idiot on earth.

[xtbs7645x]

You are by far the largest fucking idiot on earth.

i agree

[pacemaker]

I'm just curious, but the people who say they aren't Christian, do you still celebrate Christmas? It seems like there are some people pretty against the whole Christian thing, so are you pretty bummed on Christmas Day when nothing under the tree is for you or do you not care? I'm not really trying to be a dick, but I always wonder that when religion comes up on this site. Because I'm sure people aren't Christian for a good reason and that's cool, but we all know there has to be a few brats on here who denounce Christianity, but would throw a total shit fit if they didn't something from Santa.
Hahahaha. Dude, I know Jewish people who celebrate Christmas. Its a fucking holiday now, and to a whole lot of people, has absolutely nothing to do with Christ. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you'd have to stupid to claim that the true essence of Christmas was Christ, when now its more about presents (and its marketability), family and the "Christmas Spirit," which is a feeling, and not Jesus. Christmas trees, lights and hot chocolate have replaced halos, waifers and wine.

If Christmas was still about Christ, then we'd be celebrating the decapitation of a Saint every February 14th.

However, if I'd been conditioned to get presents on Ash Wednesday and all of a sudden stopped getting them, I'd be confused and somewhat pissed.

[70x7]

Hahahaha. Dude, I know Jewish people who celebrate Christmas. Its a fucking holiday now, and to a whole lot of people, has absolutely nothing to do with Christ. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you'd have to stupid to claim that the true essence of Christmas was Christ, when now its more about presents (and its marketability), family and the "Christmas Spirit," which is a feeling, and not Jesus. Christmas trees, lights and hot chocolate have replaced halos, waifers and wine.

If Christmas was still about Christ, then we'd be celebrating the decapitation of a Saint every February 14th.

However, if I'd been conditioned to get presents on Ash Wednesday and all of a sudden stopped getting them, I'd be confused and somewhat pissed.
I guess it's a good thing I wasn't being serious then.
Still, Jewish people celebrating Christmas is tacky.

[Jamais_vu]

Nofx was a band before some of you were born. UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band that loves jesus. Enough said.

[GreenJellyBean]

the one band i really really really wanted to see. this sucks.

[leftstranded]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!!!!!

this was the biggest band that i wanted to see. damn warped for making cleveland the last date!

[rpk004]

probably one of the biggest reasons i was going to warped. aw man. :(

[FBRDC]

the rumor ive been hearing is that their bus crashed

[rewindthistime]

Nofx was a band before some of you were born. UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band that loves jesus. Enough said.
does it really matter that they love jesus? who really cares.

[yutsmcgee]

If Underoath isn't trying to convert anyone then how come they say constantly they are "doing this for Jesus". If they are Christian that's fine, but some people just get irritated when people keep outwardly confessing their faith. By doing so they are indirectly professing it to the crowd. They should just play music.

During the election year, act's outwardly talked about who they believed everyone should vote for. They tried to change people's mind. What underOATH do during their set is the equivalent of merely saying what party the vote for. They're not even trying to change people's minds or belief system, they're just being up front about who they are. There is nothing wrong with that, and I have a lot of respect for their willingness to do that.

[PEPSI]

nofx was around back when jesus was crucified

[yutsmcgee]

Nofx was a band before some of you were born. UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band that loves jesus. Enough said.

taking back sunday rip-off? that might be one of the most idiotic posts i have ever seen. because DTGL sounds sooooo much like anything TBS has ever done. not.

[mrzippo3]

fuck all the NOFX hate in this thread

[grace we bestow]

Nofx was a band before some of you were born. UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band that loves jesus. Enough said.
Just because they were a band before I was born doesn't mean they don't suck. Underoath sounds nothing like Taking Back Sunday, by the way. Nice try.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Damn that sucks, I was looking forward to seeing them Wednesday. Lots of good bands dropped off. Oh well, it'll still be a good time. Hope everything is okay with Uo.

[futurcorerock]

Nofx was a band before some of you were born. UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band that loves jesus. Enough said.

It's funny when you can tell some posters have never actually heard the music they're bashing

[thegreatescape1]

i've heard that they are getting rid of spencer

[AEast317]

Nofx was a band before some of you were born. UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band that loves jesus. Enough said.

i'm not sure i understand this.

and since nofx has been a band since before some of us were born, you'd think they would have had enough time to make records that interest me. maybe next time.

[MarkyMark1984]

i really don't think it's because of fat mike, cuz in all of the interviews and stuff they talk about how he's a cool guy and "he does his thing and they'll do theirs" kinda deal. I would really be sad if it was parting ways with spencer. that would seriously suck. i don't want this to turn into a further seems forever deal. It says "personal issues" so maybe there was just some stuff going on that the band needed to take care of . . . maybe it's nothing that big at all. maybe they all got really sick and are going home to rest for a while. let's just wait to hear what the band has to say.

[x togepi x]

taking back sunday rip-off? that might be one of the most idiotic posts i have ever seen. because DTGL sounds sooooo much like anything TBS has ever done. not.

yeah you're right...it sounds like everytime I die meets norma jean...which is ripping off botch +some shitty ambience. if you think it's totally original, you need to listen to more music because it's been done before.

and don't try and claim I've "never heard the album" or are just bashing UO because I hate them...since they're the band that got me into hardcore...oh, and i saw them before they were cool. i was psyched about the album until it leaked and was horrible. they should have stayed poppy.

the one time i saw nofx they sucked. fat mike makes me laugh. especially since he made some good points in that warped tour bible study blog, about how some of the christian bands went on and on about how hard it was to be a christian band on warped, and yet still got blow jobs.

[pasthefence49]

long story short fat mike and spencer did lines of coke together in thier bus and fat miek todl everyone and underoath wants nothing to do with spencer anymore

[thegreatescape1]

long story short fat mike and spencer did lines of coke together in thier bus and fat miek todl everyone and underoath wants nothing to do with spencer anymoreyea that's exactly what I heard

[jagseroni]

Jesus did not approve of them being on warped tour. Get back in church and get a haircut!

not that funny.

[MarkyMark1984]

long story short fat mike and spencer did lines of coke together in thier bus and fat miek todl everyone and underoath wants nothing to do with spencer anymore

if that is true, that is surprising. however, i don't think underoath are the type that if spencer did something like that just once, then they would dismiss him and throw him to the wolves. there's a thing called forgiveness that they believe in. i mean, if this kind of thing happened everyday over and over on the bus for the whole tour and then they talked about it as a band then it would be different. But one and done would be a bit harsh and i dont see underoath being that type. then again, i'm just a dude.

[Nolessthanblink]

long story short fat mike and spencer did lines of coke together in thier bus and fat miek todl everyone and underoath wants nothing to do with spencer anymore

And where'd you hear that at my friend? That'd be some CRAZY shit dude

[Rufio21]

And where'd you hear that at my friend? That'd be some CRAZY shit dude

AHAHAH, the irony if that statement is indeed true. Fat Mike is trying to make boys in to men 1 by 1. haha

[X Out The Eyes]

Fat Mike loooooooves the fat cock

holy shit your hilarious.
tell another.

fuck underoath, seriously. worst band.

[mogwaifearsatan]

It's going to pretty hilarious when they announce that there was just a family problem with one of the band members and everyone who's wasted time being a dumbass in this thread looks even sillier.

[moonlights]

"UNDEROATH have canceled their upcoming appearances on the Vans Warped Tour due to unforeseen circumstances. “We’re deeply frustrated and sorry for any inconvenience this has caused. We felt it necessary to take some immediate time to focus on our friendship, as that’s more important than risking it for the sake of touring at this time,” the band stated."

there you go.

[leaderofchina]

Underoath (http://www.absolutepunk.net/underoath) have left Warped Tour due to personal reasons. They were not suspended or asked to leave by the tour, but will not be finishing out the final two weeks.
If Fat mike bash on Muslam, they probaby plan bombs at the show

[From: Skulls]

wow at that last post...

[thehigherstar]

They have done every musical genre. They can write hilarious songs (Don't call me white, Franco Unamerican), ska songs (eat the meek), and they wrote and performed "The Decline" probably the best punk song of all time.

yeah, since those three genres are every musical genre out there.

and the best punk song ever? sure.

[konstantine94]

A lot of my family is Muslim.. so I don't like the bomb comment. And all the Muslims in my family went to Catholic school. So I am cool with Christianity, but since I don't really have a religion, I don't celebrate Christmas.

I don't like Fat Mike's comments about UnderOath, I think they are unecessary, and I am surprised that Kevin Lyman hasn't told him to STFU. I'm not a huge fan of either band, but I don't think they are overbearing about their religious views. And I am the first person to be uncomfortable with preaching. I live on the same cul de sac as this family of Jehovah's Witnesses, and although I respect their religion, I HATE that they send us their religious brochures in the mail and try to convert my 15 year old brother.

[thehigherstar]

I like both bands; I saw UO at Warped and that's really what made them click with me. But why people feel the need to be complete douchebags on here and hate on a band because of what they believe in (which really doesn't affect any of you)--it just doesn't make sense to me.

very well said.

[N8IVIin0rity]

everyone keeps talking about nofx and how they were punk pioneers, and how their music will be remembered 20 yrs from now. too bad we're not living in the past/future. we're living in the PRESENT. its 6:18AM and NOFX still sucks. and i need to go to bed.

[china white]

what in the world has become of this thread.....?

apparently a lot of people bought some 'jump to conclusion' mats.

[Cursethishearse]

I was told about this yesterday while at work. My friend called me from the Indy date and had talked to someone who is close to the band about why they weren't there. Here's what she told me:

Underoath decided to drop because of Fat Mike's antics towards them. He apparently had been making comments during their set about Spencer doing coke - which has been mentioned in this thread - and how Spencer was seen flirting with another girl, which might cause a problem since he's engaged/married, I don't remember anymore. Fat Mike also apparently made a sign that read "Atheists and Agnostics only shower here" one morning. I think that the last incident was the one that really got to Underoath and they decided to leave the tour.

However, some members were still seen walking around Indy yesterday. So who knows what's actually happening. I just know what I was told from a fairly concrete source.

[TommyGunn]

If Underoath left because of Fat Mike then they need to realize that they are a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see if underoath is still releasing kick ass albums in 20 years. Most likely they will be selling bible out of the back of their van.


NOFX records are just as shitty today as they were back then. The band is horrible and a complete joke.

[TommyGunn]

and they wrote and performed "The Decline" probably the best punk song of all time.\


DUDE. Now you are just making a fool of yourself. You really need to listen to more punk music.

Ever heard of The Clash?

[TommyGunn]

yeah you're right...it sounds like everytime I die meets norma jean...which is ripping off botch +some shitty ambience. if you think it's totally original, you need to listen to more music because it's been done before.

and don't try and claim I've "never heard the album" or are just bashing UO because I hate them...since they're the band that got me into hardcore...oh, and i saw them before they were cool. i was psyched about the album until it leaked and was horrible. they should have stayed poppy.

the one time i saw nofx they sucked. fat mike makes me laugh. especially since he made some good points in that warped tour bible study blog, about how some of the christian bands went on and on about how hard it was to be a christian band on warped, and yet still got blow jobs.


THis from the guy whos fave bands are:

Rush, , Against Me!, Vendetta Red, Coheed and Cambria, Rise Against, Bad Religion, Franz Ferdinand, Head Automatica,

[yutsmcgee]

yeah you're right...it sounds like everytime I die meets norma jean...which is ripping off botch +some shitty ambience. if you think it's totally original, you need to listen to more music because it's been done before.

and don't try and claim I've "never heard the album" or are just bashing UO because I hate them...since they're the band that got me into hardcore...oh, and i saw them before they were cool. i was psyched about the album until it leaked and was horrible. they should have stayed poppy.

the one time i saw nofx they sucked. fat mike makes me laugh. especially since he made some good points in that warped tour bible study blog, about how some of the christian bands went on and on about how hard it was to be a christian band on warped, and yet still got blow jobs.

Did I ever say they were original? No. I said they weren't like TBS. Because they're not. Neither TCOT, TOCS, or DTGL have sounded like Taking Back Sunday.

P.S. The new album definitely face rips a lot of Botch and Isis. But it still is a good album, originality aside.

[Criesofthepast7]

fat mike is a fat piece of shit. NOFX just neeeds to break up and stop playing shows. Hell they should have done that 10 years ago. Underoath is way to go for NOFX and i cant stand the kind of crowd NOFX draws. so fuck NOFX, and i hope Underoath gets back on there feeet and start playing shows again. Come back just as strong and dominate the US full tour!.

[AEast317]

I was told about this yesterday while at work. My friend called me from the Indy date and had talked to someone who is close to the band about why they weren't there. Here's what she told me:

Underoath decided to drop because of Fat Mike's antics towards them. He apparently had been making comments during their set about Spencer doing coke - which has been mentioned in this thread - and how Spencer was seen flirting with another girl, which might cause a problem since he's engaged/married, I don't remember anymore. Fat Mike also apparently made a sign that read "Atheists and Agnostics only shower here" one morning. I think that the last incident was the one that really got to Underoath and they decided to leave the tour.

However, some members were still seen walking around Indy yesterday. So who knows what's actually happening. I just know what I was told from a fairly concrete source.

well if some of them WERE there yesterday, they stayed by the busses because word would have gotten around pretty fast that they were there.

ppl on the tour didnt even know. the guy from armor for sleep was like "are you guys excited for underoath"
and shane from silverstein was like "underoath wont be playing today, and we dont know why, and we dont know anyone that knows why"

i dont think underoath has ever played indiana. fucking assholes.

[RomeoAGoGo]

As asinine a comment as PunkENG made, it does hold some water. You all can't deny that uO will more than likely not be a band that will stick around for years to come and continue to make "ground breaking" music. They're not doing anything that much different. And this is most likely a type of music that isn't going to be a staple in the music scene for many years.

With that said however, this is very sad to see, but when you are continually getting persecuted for making the kind of music you make, playing it for the largest crowds at Warped, all the while trying to have an uplifting message for the kids that goes in turn with their music, getting made fun of by the punk bands and members who think the music scene has turned to shit because of bands like uO, then why WOULD you wanna stay on the tour? That was a really long sentence.

When they came through Dallas tho, they had the biggest crowd all day. And when Spencer says they're doing it for Jesus Christ, the crowd applauded him. Not one boo-bird. He doesn't say you all should be saved. Damn your souls for not being a Christian. They love all their fans the same. That's more than I can say for most of the punk bands that are on this tour. Being torn down because of your beliefs is just sad and pathetic. The truth is, a LOT of people believe in this band and their music. And I think a part of Fat Mike, as well as others in the punk/true hardcore scene, are dissapointed to see the scene where its going. uO just seems to be taking the fall.

smartest thing anybody has ever said on this website

[RomeoAGoGo]

Just wondering, who decided that their songs are hilarious, ska sucks, and who decided that "The Decline" is probably the best punk song of all time?

a lot of people

by the way, Underoath pre-They're Only Chasing Safety is pretty mediocore PTW(OOD)-ripped off metalcore

[starcrossdlovex]

UO is a terrible taking back sunday rip-off band
PLEASE tell me that was a joke.

[pacemaker]

if that is true, that is surprising. however, i don't think underoath are the type that if spencer did something like that just once, then they would dismiss him and throw him to the wolves. there's a thing called forgiveness that they believe in. i mean, if this kind of thing happened everyday over and over on the bus for the whole tour and then they talked about it as a band then it would be different. But one and done would be a bit harsh and i dont see underoath being that type. then again, i'm just a dude.

Who said it was the first time he's done something like that?

[MarkyMark1984]

exactly, none of us know. that's why i don't wanna jump to any conclusions before any of us know anything. we don't know if anything said is true. all we know is they didn't want to finish warped to strengthen their friendships. they'd rather stay friends than sell millions of records, have millions of fans and be rock stars. that's what is important to them. respect.

[Sinister Rouge]

Fat Mike is awesome....Underoath sucks and they were preaching at the Houston show. Me, Jefe, and Eric Melvin were making fun of them (more of religion though) backstage after they played. Fun night, I drank with Against Me (Andrew is a family memeber), NOFX, Bouncing Souls, and Chris and Roger of Less Than Jake. I also met Rise Against and Anti-Flag.

They are just another screamo metalcore band that would be forgotten in 10 years. NOFX, who doesn't really try or care, are legends.

[weworemasks]

this thread is a fucking disgrace to the concept of intelligence. it seems as though 90% of the people who decided to post in this thread, decided to leave their intelligence somewhere else. fucking retarded.

everything aside, the funniest thing about nofx is that their entire discography probably hasn't sold as much as underoaths past two releases.

and i hope underoath works everything out.

[rewindthistime]

Fat Mike is awesome....Underoath sucks and they were preaching at the Houston show. Me, Jefe, and Eric Melvin were making fun of them backstage while they were playing. Fun night, I drank with Against Me (Andrew is a family memeber), NOFX, Bouncing Souls, and Chris and Roger of Less Than Jake. I also met Rise Against and Anti-Flag.

They are just another screamo metalcore band that would be forgotten in 10 years. NOFX, who doesn't really try or care, are legends.
hello namedropping central. go kill yourself.

[TommyGunn]

Me, Jefe, and Eric Melvin were making fun of them backstage while they were playing.

You are so punk.


Fun night, I drank with Against Me (Andrew is a family memeber)

Wow, a family member?? Holy shit. Oh wai...nobody knows who against me is. Never mind.



I also met Rise Against and Anti-Flag.



Did you tell Anti Flag that the English punk scene wants their sound and image back?



NOFX, who doesn't really try or care, are legends.

If you think they don't care, you are more of an idiot that I thought. See through the facade man.

[weworemasks]

Fat Mike is awesome....Underoath sucks and they were preaching at the Houston show. Me, Jefe, and Eric Melvin were making fun of them backstage while they were playing. Fun night, I drank with Against Me (Andrew is a family memeber), NOFX, Bouncing Souls, and Chris and Roger of Less Than Jake. I also met Rise Against and Anti-Flag.

They are just another screamo metalcore band that would be forgotten in 10 years. NOFX, who doesn't really try or care, are legends.

you are a fucking idiot. i was at the houston warped, and he didn't preach for a single second. they said something along the lines that they have faith, and "god bless you." whats the fucking difference between "god bless you," and the mindless political dribble on fat mikes chin. fuck yourself.

[Sinister Rouge]

You are so punk.




Wow, a family member?? Holy shit. Oh wai...nobody knows who against me is. Never mind.




Did you tell Anti Flag that the English punk scene wants their sound and image back?




If you think they don't care, you are more of an idiot that I thought. See through the facade man.

I bet you would wet your pants to be backstage

You do not know who Against Me! is...hahahahaha. Better than that suck band Underoath...

Anti-Flag does not sound english at all.

[Sinister Rouge]

you are a fucking idiot. i was at the houston warped, and he didn't preach for a single second. they said something along the lines that they have faith, and "god bless you." whats the fucking difference between "god bless you," and the mindless political dribble on fat mikes chin. fuck yourself.

they flaunt their faith openly...that is their selling point. They wouldn't sell as many records if they weren't christian. Comedy is NOFX's thing. Underoath was flaunting their faith, even mentioning "Jesus Christ", unlike MxPx. Underoath is "safe" rebellion for teens who grow up in Christian homes.

I was backstage when UO was playing so I could hear them clearly.

[Sinister Rouge]

this thread is a fucking disgrace to the concept of intelligence. it seems as though 90% of the people who decided to post in this thread, decided to leave their intelligence somewhere else. fucking retarded.

everything aside, the funniest thing about nofx is that their entire discography probably hasn't sold as much as underoaths past two releases.

and i hope underoath works everything out.

sometimes bands that do sell well are forgotten, and bands that may not sell well can be legends....Black Flag for example.