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Jake Gyllenhaal

03/04/10, 10:50 AM

Has anyone heard of the Nolan Chart? Basically, you can take a quiz and ranging on ten topics, you choose which statement you agree with the most. In one of the few instances I was watching Glenn Beck last week, he was talking about it. There was a small audience and they took it before the show and some of them were surprised they got different results than how they labeled their political views. I'm not sure how accurate it is.

This is the chart:

http://www.nolanchart.com/images/nolan_chart.png

Not surprisingly, I got "Liberal" and a little star on the chart indicated where exactly I was. It was in the lower right of the liberal block, close to the borders of "Centrist" and "Statist".

Here's the survey if you want to take it: http://www.nolanchart.com/survey.php

caveBEAR

03/04/10, 10:58 AM

I got libertarian, but my star was very close to liberal and centrist.

Machu505

03/04/10, 11:10 AM

Shitty libertarian-biased quiz. The Woodrow Wilson quote on question seven is fake.

zachff

03/04/10, 12:31 PM

That was a terrible "quiz"

CaryGrant

03/04/10, 12:46 PM

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Jake Gyllenhaal

03/04/10, 12:48 PM

haha

Praetor

03/04/10, 01:00 PM

Terrible, terrible quiz imo. The Political Compass still reigns supreme.

rawesome

03/04/10, 01:15 PM

I've taken three of these, now, and I literally end up in the exact same spot everytime. About halfway in the center of the "Liberal" section and then skewed up or down (depending on the chart) towards Libertarian.

Also:
Shitty libertarian-biased quiz. The Woodrow Wilson quote on question seven is fake.
Some of them are really biased towards this area. I remember the first one I took was at the tent for the Libertarian Party at last year's Warped tour and they had this thing where they would give a colored sticker for where you thought you were going to be (blue was Liberal, red Conservative, etc.) and when I told the lady that I had a pretty good idea she gave me this smug "Oh yeah, we'll see" (cause everyone's really a Libertarian apparently). Then she was all shitty when I finished it.

xshady121

03/04/10, 01:26 PM

Didn't read most of the questions. http://www.libertariantv.com/images/star.png

libertarian. midway. Slightly north of center. Shitty quiz.

jwicklun

03/04/10, 01:40 PM

I got centerist leaning a bit liberal. The quiz was too vague to really nail down who I really was.

Theseventhson

03/04/10, 01:47 PM

Didn't like that quiz, I got liberal and leaning towards libertarian, though.

.invisible ink.

03/04/10, 03:26 PM

*yawn* just as i've scored in all of the other political compass quizzes, hardcore libertarian (star placed high up and center in libertarian box). tell me something i don't know.

Gumbyjag

03/04/10, 06:10 PM

i'm a liberal-leaning centrist apparently.

OnLettingGo

03/04/10, 06:26 PM

i got centrist. dead center centrist. which i guess kinda makes sense since i have some conservative views and some liberal views.

andrew_upto11

03/04/10, 08:34 PM

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This is awesome.

loveisdead

03/05/10, 07:17 AM

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For the win.

chrispompey

03/17/10, 04:12 AM

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God idk why but I juat laughed at this all the way through breakfast, and walking back to my car

Nevuk

03/17/10, 08:45 AM

Terrible quiz. Put me as a centrist which was pretty lol.

SpacePunk

03/20/10, 06:02 AM

I'm a centrist-libertarian... right at the top-middle of centrist, on the line between centrist/libertarian.

I was expecting conservative-libertarian.

GeeBee

03/20/10, 08:11 AM

Nolan Ryan was a wonderful pitcher.

Alou

03/20/10, 09:30 AM

On the line between Liberal and Centralist. :?

Neo Cassady

03/20/10, 08:06 PM

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8807/nolanchart.png

Almost exactly where I expected. In reality, my political views are a bit scattered though.

A7XXX

03/21/10, 01:52 PM

I got conservative which was kinda expected. I agree that the quiz is really vague though

DrStrong

04/01/10, 04:08 PM

paper halo

04/01/10, 04:11 PM

i got centrist libertarian but that quiz was dumb. The gay marriage question was particularly stupid, the only answer that was against gay marriage involved the bible and god. I do not approve of gay marriage personally, but it has nothing to do with god or the bible.

Why then, do you have a problem with gay people having the same rights as you?

Machu505

04/01/10, 04:15 PM

I hate that most all of these quizzes have a libertarian bias.

xshady121

04/01/10, 04:19 PM

I thoughtt his was going to be bumped due to the recent TBS news.

Didn't think machumatt would bump it to cry about libertarians.

Machu505

04/01/10, 04:21 PM

I thoughtt his was going to be bumped due to the recent TBS news.

Didn't think machumatt would bump it to cry about libertarians.
Me bump it? Do I have an alternate persona in California now?

DrStrong

04/01/10, 04:22 PM

Why then, do you have a problem with gay people having the same rights as you?
I have a problem with the entire idea of homosexuality, and how you're born with it...Last time i checked, you acquire the taste for the opposite sex, if anything different occurs, i see a chemical imbalance in the brain to be honest. But thats a whole difference topic, but that should answer your question.

caveBEAR

04/01/10, 04:59 PM

I have a problem with the entire idea of homosexuality, and how you're born with it...Last time i checked, you acquire the taste for the opposite sex, if anything different occurs, i see a chemical imbalance in the brain to be honest. But thats a whole difference topic, but that should answer your question.

:lol:

'Acquire the taste for the opposite sex'? I don't know about you, but in the delivery room, I slapped the nurse's ass, not the doctor's.

What does it matter if it was a 'chemical imbalance'? This is America, where we don't discriminate against people for things like chemical imbalances. Don't confuse your 'feeling' with reality.

reckoner

04/01/10, 06:12 PM

Jake Gyllenhaal

04/01/10, 06:20 PM

xshady121

04/01/10, 06:43 PM

Me bump it? Do I have an alternate persona in California now?

Eh, tomato tomatoe.

caveBEAR

04/01/10, 06:46 PM

Last time i checked, you acquire the taste for the opposite sex

Not to put dicks-, sorry, words in your mouth, but this sounds an awful lot like the guys who go to therapy/church to 'learn' to be straight.

I, for instance, got married to a lovely girl named Ashley in Pre-K.

Things didn't work out.

CaryGrant

04/01/10, 07:38 PM

Not to put dicks-, sorry, words in your mouth, but this sounds an awful lot like the guys who go to therapy/church to 'learn' to be straight.

I, for instance, got married to a lovely girl named Ashley in Pre-K.

Things didn't work out.

My friend came out when he was 13. What 13 year old goes, "You know what would really help me through junior high, socially?"

caveBEAR

04/01/10, 07:46 PM

My friend came out when he was 13. What 13 year old goes, "You know what would really help me through junior high, socially?"

'Oooh, oooh, and an unhealthy obsession with My Little Pony!'

DrStrong

04/02/10, 06:52 AM

:lol:

'Acquire the taste for the opposite sex'? I don't know about you, but in the delivery room, I slapped the nurse's ass, not the doctor's.

What does it matter if it was a 'chemical imbalance'? This is America, where we don't discriminate against people for things like chemical imbalances. Don't confuse your 'feeling' with reality.
I just dont believe that people are born liking either sex. Im not going to try and give a reason as to why people turn gay or straight, but i highly doubt you're born being either heterosexual or homosexual.

If you're born gay, then wouldnt there be other species that are gay? That was not a stupid question, its only logical if that is your way of thinking.

paper halo

04/02/10, 06:53 AM

I just dont believe that people are born liking either sex. Im not going to try and give a reason as to why people turn gay or straight, but i highly doubt you're born being either heterosexual or homosexual.

If you're born gay, then wouldnt there be other species that are gay? That was not a stupid question, its only logical if that is your way of thinking.

Homosexual activity has been observed in animals, it's completely natural. Thought everyone knew this.

DrStrong

04/02/10, 06:55 AM

Let's take away depressed people's rights because depression is just a chemical imbalance!
Since when do people suffering from depression have different rights than people not suffering from depression?

Just admit it that when you picture two dudes or two ladies making out, it makes you uncomfortable.
I look away seeing two guys OR two girls making out. On the other hand, im not going to stare at a straight couple making out either.

This applies to things happening in reality, not in movies.

DrStrong

04/02/10, 06:56 AM

Homosexual activity has been observed in animals, it's completely natural. Thought everyone knew this.
Until there is evidence of homosexuality being hereditary or genetic, I will always believe that it is acquired.

By evidence I mean proof.

paper halo

04/02/10, 07:08 AM

Until there is evidence of homosexuality being hereditary or genetic, I will always believe that it is acquired.

By evidence I mean proof.

Still doesn't explain why you have a problem with homosexuality.

Jake Gyllenhaal

04/02/10, 07:10 AM

I look away seeing two guys OR two girls making out. On the other hand, im not going to stare at a straight couple making out either.

This applies to things happening in reality, not in movies.

So why do you have a problem with gay couples expressing their loves in private and getting married and living lives that have no affect on you?

paper halo

04/02/10, 07:12 AM

Since when do people suffering from depression have different rights than people not suffering from depression?

I think his point went over your head.

DrStrong

04/02/10, 07:28 AM

Still doesn't explain why you have a problem with homosexuality.

So why do you have a problem with gay couples expressing their loves in private and getting married and living lives that have no affect on you?
I dont so much have a problem with the people themselves, like i said i can care less if 2 dudes are making out, i just wont look. I'm not one of those people who try to abolish something, when i can easily just look the other way.

The thing that bugs me is that homosexuality is being treated as something that happens naturally to people, even though there is no proof of that.

DrStrong

04/02/10, 07:29 AM

I think his point went over your head.
Regardless of the point, people who suffer from depression do NOT have different rights than everyone else.

paper halo

04/02/10, 07:39 AM

I dont so much have a problem with the people themselves, like i said i can care less if 2 dudes are making out, i just wont look. I'm not one of those people who try to abolish something, when i can easily just look the other way.

The thing that bugs me is that homosexuality is being treated as something that happens naturally to people, even though there is no proof of that.

Hold up, earlier you were saying it was down to a chemical imbalance in the brain, then you were saying you thought people aren't born with an inherent sexual preference, and now you appear to be reverting to the 'it's a choice' bullshit. So which is it?

Regardless of the point, people who suffer from depression do NOT have different rights than everyone else.

Yes, I'm sure he's well aware of that, his point was that if you believe homosexuality to be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, why should they be denied rights because of something they have no control over?

DrStrong

04/02/10, 07:47 AM

Hold up, earlier you were saying it was down to a chemical imbalance in the brain, then you were saying you thought people aren't born with an inherent sexual preference, and now you appear to be reverting to the 'it's a choice' bullshit. So which is it?
Sorry if im not conveying my stand point on this properly, im not being sarcastic or anything so here, i'll spell it out.

-I believe you are NOT born hetero/homo, rather something that is developed. So in other words, i do believe it is a choice.

Yes, I'm sure he's well aware of that, his point was that if you believe homosexuality to be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, why should they be denied rights because of something they have no control over?
I dont know why i used the checmical imbalance argument, I dont think something is "wrong" with you if you're gay. I just believe that its a choice.

caveBEAR

04/02/10, 07:58 AM

I dont know why i used the checmical imbalance argument, I dont think something is "wrong" with you if you're gay. I just believe that its a choice.

You ever taken a moment to ask a gay person what they think about what you 'believe'?

DrStrong

04/02/10, 08:01 AM

You ever taken a moment to ask a gay person what they think about what you 'believe'?
No, i rarely express my thoughts about this. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion dude, i have every right to feel the way that i do.

paper halo

04/02/10, 08:06 AM

Sorry if im not conveying my stand point on this properly, im not being sarcastic or anything so here, i'll spell it out.

-I believe you are NOT born hetero/homo, rather something that is developed. So in other words, i do believe it is a choice.

Well it can't be something that's developed and an active choice. And if you belive this, then logically it should surely follow that being heterosexual is a choice too. Which brings me to these two questions:

1.When did you choose to be straight?
2.Why should homosexual people be denied the same rights as you?

I dont know why i used the checmical imbalance argument, I dont think something is "wrong" with you if you're gay. I just believe that its a choice.

Even if you're right and homosexual people choose to be gay, why is it acceptable to deny them rights?

caveBEAR

04/02/10, 08:06 AM

No, i rarely express my thoughts about this. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion dude, i have every right to feel the way that i do.

Except your opinion impedes the rights of the homosexual community. Homosexuality is not a choice (and I know you want some 'genetic' proof or something, but you don't really know what you're talking about, because you wouldn't find 'proof' for homosexuality genetically...it's not 'passed on') but your insistence that homosexuality is a choice only helps those who wish to hold back homosexuals for their own hate-filled, ignorant ends.

On this issue, you're really with 'em or against 'em, and right now you're on the side of tools, bigots, mother-fuckers and assholes.

Congrats.

caveBEAR

04/02/10, 08:15 AM

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion dude

You are very much entitled to your own opinion, but saying 'I don't support homosexual marriage because homosexuality is a choice' isn't an opinion, it is a stance arrived at due to misinformation. You are making a statement based off 'fact', and your facts aren't right.

If you said, 'I don't support homosexual marriage because I think it's wrong and gross', that's an opinion, and (although I'd disagree with you) I'd definitely feel you're entitled to it; however, what you're doing isn't stating an opinion, it's spreading misinformation.

Saying 'green's not a color, it's a number' isn't an opinion, it's just incorrect.

peder458

04/02/10, 09:38 AM

i got centrist libertarian but that quiz was dumb. The gay marriage question was particularly stupid, the only answer that was against gay marriage involved the bible and god. I do not approve of gay marriage personally, but it has nothing to do with god or the bible.

it seems odd that you claim that your disapproval of homosexuals is not because of god or the bible, yet your profile says you are christian. not saying i can read your mind, but it seems pretty coincidental...

DrStrong

04/02/10, 09:40 AM

Well it can't be something that's developed and an active choice. And if you believe this, then logically it should surely follow that being heterosexual is a choice too. Which brings me to these two questions:

1.When did you choose to be straight?
2.Why should homosexual people be denied the same rights as you?

Even if you're right and homosexual people choose to be gay, why is it acceptable to deny them rights?

it seems odd that you claim that your disapproval of homosexuals is not because of god or the bible, yet your profile says you are Christian. not saying i can read your mind, but it seems pretty coincidental...
Read some of my other posts on this thread. Yes, i am Christian, but I'm not one of those bible study freaks which quote the bible. I'm most familiar with Christianity put it that way, i used to go to church alot, but never followed Catholicism or anything else.

peder458

04/02/10, 09:44 AM

Read some of my other posts on this thread. Yes, i am Christian, but I'm not one of those bible study freaks which quote the bible. I'm most familiar with Christianity put it that way, i used to go to church alot, but never followed Catholicism or anything else.

that is all fine, but you still are a christian who has a problem with the rights of other human beings (who happen to be gay... that is a red flag to me but again i could be wrong) and you have done little to support your stance. all of your claims fall short just by turning them around and using them on heterosexuals.

and you did not answer the above question about when you decided that you were heterosexual?

DrStrong

04/02/10, 09:47 AM

that is all fine, but you still are a christian who has a problem with the rights of other human beings (who happen to be gay... that is a red flag to me but again i could be wrong) and you have done little to support your stance. all of your claims fall short just by turning them around and using them on heterosexuals.

and you did not answer the above question about when you decided that you were heterosexual?
When i realized i liked girls and not guys.

paper halo

04/02/10, 09:49 AM

peder458

04/02/10, 09:56 AM

When i realized i liked girls and not guys.

great answer. then why did you, above a few posts, say that you thought homosexuality is a choice? why would it be any different from your experience of simply realizing what you were attracted to? there isn't choice in sexual orientation... your experience supports this.

caveBEAR

04/02/10, 10:21 AM

great answer. then why did you, above a few posts, say that you thought homosexuality is a choice? why would it be any different from your experience of simply realizing what you were attracted to? there isn't choice in sexual orientation... your experience supports this.

No, no, no, no, no, you just don't understand. He realized he was straight, they chose to be gay.

Your just dum.

peder458

04/02/10, 10:24 AM

No, no, no, no, no, you just don't understand. He realized he was straight, they chose to be gay.

Your just dum.

the only logical explanation is that he is fuckin with us. there is no way he is missing our point, it is far too simple not to get. i think he is just seeing how mad he can make us....

...right?

DrStrong

04/02/10, 10:33 AM

the only logical explanation is that he is fuckin with us. there is no way he is missing our point, it is far too simple not to get. i think he is just seeing how mad he can make us....

...right?
I just dont think gay people should get married. Marriage has been between a man and a woman for a very, very long time. Why should it be changed for a certain group of people?

Dont bring up women finally being able to vote, or the civil rights movement. These things are not related.

paper halo

04/02/10, 10:36 AM

I just dont think gay people should get married. Marriage has been between a man and a woman for a very, very long time. Why should it be changed for a certain group of people?

Dont bring up women finally being able to vote, or the civil rights movement. These things are not related.

You mean like when it was changed to allow black people to marry? Don't you see how you're exactly the same as the racists who protested that change?

DrStrong

04/02/10, 10:40 AM

You mean like when it was changed to allow black people to marry? Don't you see how you're exactly the same as the racists who protested that change?
haha, so im a racist now? I have nothing against black people, or any other race.

paper halo

04/02/10, 10:44 AM

haha, so im a racist now? I have nothing against black people, or any other race.

:hitself:

Holy shit. My point was that you are the same as them in that you are a bigoted fuck.

DrStrong

04/02/10, 10:45 AM

:hitself:

Holy shit. My point was that you are the same as them in that you are a bigoted fuck.
Call me what you want, but you're standpoint will not sway mine.

paper halo

04/02/10, 11:14 AM

Call me what you want, but you're standpoint will not sway mine.

You don't even have a standpoint, your reasoning is so vague and stupid, I have to assume it's nothing more than mindless bigotry. Of course, it's always bigotry, but people usually do a better job of dressing it up with bullshit, or hiding behind their religion. All you've done is half-assed some tired old talking points and called them a standpoint.

I just don't get how some people can think it's acceptable to withold rights from others because of something that doesn't affect them in the slightest. Guess I never will.

caveBEAR

04/02/10, 11:48 AM

I just dont think gay people should get married. Marriage has been between a man and a woman for a very, very long time. Why should it be changed for a certain group of people?

You do realize that almost every fucked up ruling ever was in place for a very long time until a group of educated people came along and said, 'hey, you realize you guys are being douchebags, right?', and everyone fixes their shit up and we become more civilized and not bigoted.

Dont bring up women finally being able to vote, or the civil rights movement. These things are not related.

Why not? This is the exact mentality people had when they resisted women's right to vote, abolishing slavery, the civil rights movement, interracial marriage, the few rights in place for the homosexual community already, etc., etc., etc.

When we say you're acting like the racists did, we're not calling you racist...we're calling you homophobic.

peder458

04/02/10, 11:57 AM

I just dont think gay people should get married.
...again, why?

Marriage has been between a man and a woman for a very, very long time. what does this have to do with anything? why does that have any relevance to our conversation at all?

Why should it be changed for a certain group of people? because it is DISCRIMINATORY. do you not get that?

Dont bring up women finally being able to vote, or the civil rights movement. These things are not related. sure they are. especially if your reasoning is because it has been a certain way for a long time. these are perfectly relevant to our conversation. there was absolutely no good reason to deprive those people of their rights based on skin color or gender. equally, there is no good reason to deprive people today of other rights based on their sexual orientation, regardless of whether it is a choice or not (and it most certainly is not a choice).

Theseventhson

04/02/10, 12:10 PM

Dont bring up women finally being able to vote, or the civil rights movement. These things are not related.
They're pretty closely related. People weren't given rights and they fought for them, bigot assholes like yourself protested against them. I fail to see how you can say they aren't related.

bigevilalien

04/03/10, 09:58 PM

I'm pretty Libertarian.

Jake Gyllenhaal

04/03/10, 10:16 PM

It's pretty certain DrStrong is just straight up against gays getting married. No way we can change his mind. He will be living the rest of his life with the mentality that gays and lesbos do not deserve the same rights as he and his potential wife. I'm not going to bother arguing my point of view because DrStrong does not care. So to DrStrong, I wish you good luck in your endeavors. You can live your life as much as you want and limit the rights of your peers.