Your favorite songs to fist pump to.

[Viva Sonata]

As the title suggests, post a few here.

Here are some of mine.
Sequoia Throne - Protest The Hero
Heroes Get Remembered/Wasting Time - Four Year Strong
Goodness Gracious - Person L

[Neo Cassady]

Sounds raunchy.

[briewer]

Kill yourself.

[Loyaltabk]

American National Anthem

[NateFoundGlory]

Well this isn't going well at all...

[BornUnderPunches]

fist pumping is so stupid.

[HometownHero]

Kill yourself.
I second this sentiment

[Viva Sonata]

Kill yourself.

Someone didn't get the joke of the thread~

Here. I'll explain it to you. Would that work?

The point. See.

Was to make a thread about songs not conventionally USED for fist pumping. For a humorous result.

Following me? Still with me?

Nah, you're hopeless. Get out of my sight. And don't break my fuckin' snowglobe. I see the way you handle that thing.

[HometownHero]

Someone didn't get the joke of the thread~

Here. I'll explain it to you. Would that work?

The point. See.

Was to make a thread about songs not conventionally USED for fist pumping. For a humorous result.

Following me? Still with me?

Nah, you're hopeless. Get out of my sight. And don't break my fuckin' snowglobe. I see the way you handle that thing.
lol nice way to back pedal

[the seventeenth]

Kill yourself.

looks like the troll came out from under the bridge... or was it the closet?

[greenteaallday]

Lmao...?

[Jake Denning]

this is a pretty terrible thread

[Brand-new-123]

Is this that thing that people do like champs?

[briewer]

looks like the troll came out from under the bridge... or was it the closet?
Totally. I'm a homosexual troll for denigrating the sanctity of a thread about fistpumping.

[IntoTheSun]

Totally. I'm a homosexual troll for denigrating the sanctity of a thread about fistpumping.

Bahahaha, ilu.

[briewer]

Someone didn't get the joke of the thread~

Here. I'll explain it to you. Would that work?

The point. See.

Was to make a thread about songs not conventionally USED for fist pumping. For a humorous result.

Following me? Still with me?

Nah, you're hopeless. Get out of my sight. And don't break my fuckin' snowglobe. I see the way you handle that thing.
You're just too high brow for me, bro, wayyy too high brow for me.

[Scrawns]

Totally. I'm a homosexual troll for denigrating the sanctity of a thread about fistpumping.


or you just cant take things easy. typical of the fgts at U of I

[briewer]

or you just cant take things easy. typical of the fgts at U of I
Totally! They print "Can't Take Things Easy, Also We're 'fgts' " on our diplomas.

[briewer]

Where the hell is Craig?

[the seventeenth]

Totally. I'm a homosexual troll for denigrating the sanctity of a thread about fistpumping.
woah, seems you took that a bit seriously- haha

[briewer]

woah, seems you took that a bit seriously- haha
I don't see how I was taking anything "seriously". I was sarcastically mocking you for a bad joke.

[the seventeenth]

I don't see how I was taking anything "seriously". I was sarcastically mocking you for a bad joke.
... okay. so was I.

[electricheart]

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5974/70485307.gif

[Kbm600]

7NQ8OCcQ3LA

:headbang:

[IntoTheSun]

From the main forums page this thread just shows up as "Your favorite songs to fist..." Hmm.

[kearn1tm]

Wait, like a handjob? I mean, I don't plan it out in advance.

[kearn1tm]

looks like the troll came out from under the bridge... or was it the closet?

Oh shit! Homosexuality as an insult. You got 'em, bro.

[Kbm600]

From the main forums page this thread just shows up as "Your favorite songs to fist..." Hmm.

This would be a much better topic.

[IntoTheSun]

Wait, like a handjob? I mean, I don't plan it out in advance.

Not like Ryan does anyways.

Oh shit! Homosexuality as an insult. You got 'em, bro.

But he was only sarcastically mocking, bro!

[kearn1tm]

But he was only sarcastically mocking, bro!

Yeah homophobia! Yeah heterosexual hegemony!

[Scrandon]

Yeah homophobia! Yeah heterosexual hegemony!

OH I GET IT NOWWW

You do this shit to everybody, OKAY, glad to know it's not just me. You just use everybody on the Internet as a scapegoat for your pent up rage.

[IntoTheSun]

HAHAHAHAH, nearly spit out my food when I refreshed the page to see Scardom's followed you in here.

[kearn1tm]

Privilege


Duh!

Your hard on for me might indicate that you need to...COME OUT OF THE CLOSET!

HAR HAR HAR HAR Nooks all around!

[IntoTheSun]

OH I GET IT NOWWW

You do this shit to everybody, OKAY, glad to know it's not just me.

You were rejected too, bro? I know it's hard, but you'll tough it out.

[kearn1tm]

HAHAHAHAH, nearly spit out my food when I refreshed the page to see Scardom's followed you in here.

He wants me dick.

[kearn1tm]

Ha. It's like, there's a lot of ignorance on the board or something? Shock!

[wuduprod]

congratulations are in order to whoever killed this stupid "let's list some songs and try to be funny" thread.

[Wisdom Tooth]

Did anybody else eat chipotle today?

[wuduprod]

i saw on twitter gamble did. he tweets about the dumbest shit.

[Wisdom Tooth]

i saw on twitter gamble did. he tweets about the dumbest shit.

Fuck Gamble.

[wuduprod]

you want to go to chipotle right now? i'm fucking bored and drew can't practice tonight so i need to get out of the apartment somehow.

[kearn1tm]

Did anybody else eat chipotle today?

I ate it for the first time ever yesterday! My god, it's drugs.

[IntoTheSun]

:yuk:

[wuduprod]

I ate it for the first time ever yesterday! My god, it's drugs.

it is... i think they sprinkle crack in the rice. what did you get on your burrito/in your bowl?

[wuduprod]

:yuk:

are you one of those weird people who prefers qdoba or moe's? because if you are, i'll give you that qdoba has better chips, but the rest is inferior.

[SophGod]

I've never had chipotle. Anyone got a good first item recommendation?

[IntoTheSun]

are you one of those weird people who prefers qdoba or moe's? because if you are, i'll give you that qdoba has better chips, but the rest is inferior.

I've never heard of either two of the alternative choices, but the portions they give are sickening. It just isn't that good...

[kearn1tm]

Hey, hey now. Qdoba is pretty good too.

[theguy77]

Did anybody else eat chipotle today?

haha holy shit psychic. i totally did.

fajita burrito, with pork
+extra cheese
+sour cream
+fresh tomato salsa

and every bite had plenty of the GREEN tabasco sauce.

[theguy77]

I've never had chipotle. Anyone got a good first item recommendation?

fajita burrito. it's a burrito but with rice and grilled peppers/onions instead of beans.

[wuduprod]

I've never had chipotle. Anyone got a good first item recommendation?

i always get a burrito with 1/2 chicken and 1/2 steak. it never fails to be delicious.

I've never heard of either two of the alternative choices, but the portions they give are sickening. It just isn't that good...

i dunno, i like that the burrito's are gigantic. eat half then, take half home and eat it later. not a bad deal i'd say.

[the seventeenth]

Oh shit! Homosexuality as an insult. You got 'em, bro.
oh, of course, the almighty sarcasm. ah.
I did get him didn't I?

[DeusExMachina]

Totally. I'm a homosexual troll for denigrating the sanctity of a thread about fistpumping.
Haha, this reminds of the Red vs. Blue quote, "Yes, Caboose, I'm a gay robot." something like that.

[wuduprod]

^ you're off topic, dude.

[kearn1tm]

oh, of course, the almighty sarcasm. ah.
I did get him didn't I?

Yeah dude. You totally insinuated he was gay, and we all know how shitty it is to be less than heterosexual.

[the seventeenth]

Yeah dude. You totally insinuated he was gay, and we all know how shitty it is to be less than heterosexual.
We do, we do. Seems that, that intentionally lame joke was a tad bit over exagerated by some certian people, eh? Pretty boring/lame argument over a lackluster topic.
We done here, Speed Racer?

[IntoTheSun]

We do, we do. Seems that, that intentionally lame joke was a tad bit over exagerated by some certian people, eh? Pretty boring/lame argument over a lackluster topic.
We done here, Speed Racer?

You should just drop it, dude. It's not going to go down well being catty and calling it a "lackluster topic."

/just suggestions

[kearn1tm]

We do, we do. Seems that, that intentionally lame joke was a tad bit over exagerated by some certian people, eh? Pretty boring/lame argument over a lackluster topic.
We done here, Speed Racer?

See, again, when people call cats out on their own bullshit, these cats often happen to be heterosexual. Interesting.

Here's the deal: Being something other than hetero is an insult because of the cultural belief that being queer is "bad" and makes them subhuman. It's not the ideal identity of the dominant culture and therefor, the deviation that reinforces the norm.

So these "funny little jokes" are also a lovely little form of oppression in their own right. There's more to it than you're acknowledging. The fact that you're claiming I'm "exagerating" a very dangerous belief that's manifested in a seemingly innocuous joke is part of the way this shit continues. Don't be lame. You're a kid, you know nothing but what you've been indoctrinated into. When you argue back, and you will, you'll be wrong.

We're not "done here" as long as ideology that leads to social inequity like this continues, cool Speed Racer (har har har...my homies laugh at my jokes!)?

[the seventeenth]

You should just drop it, dude. It's not going to go down well being catty and calling it a "lackluster topic."

/just suggestions
technically did, see the closing sentence.

[theguy77]

Hey, hey now. Qdoba is pretty good too.

what did you try from chipotle that you loved?

[IntoTheSun]

You're a kid, you know nothing but what you've been indoctrinated into. When you argue back, and you will, you'll be wrong.

I don't think this statement is very fair, Todd.

[wuduprod]

^ aaaand we're back on topic. thank you, ryan. and btw fajitas ftw.

[kearn1tm]

what did you try from chipotle that you loved?

A fajita ranch burrito with chicken and salsa. It was exquisite, Ryan. I know they're a chain. I know it's not a thing, you know? But for me, it was a thing, dude. They just opened and it was a thing.

[kearn1tm]

I don't think this statement is very fair, Todd.

I do. He's 15. What is one of the major institutions/agents of socialization? School. On the micro scale, the family. Children are forced into adolescence; which is an industrial revolution machination meant to prolong childhood and keep kids, well, complacent and dependent as the need for farm hands and laborers decreased.

It's not because of his age, per se, but what is done to kids to keep them, well, kids.

[kearn1tm]

I give Ryan a lot of shit, but sparking discussion of Chipotle/Qdoba is good. It's very good.

[IntoTheSun]

I do. He's 15. What is one of the major institutions/agents of socialization? School. On the micro scale, the family. Children are forced into adolescence; which is an industrial revolution machination meant to prolong childhood and keep kids, well, complacent and dependent as the need for farm hands and laborers decreased.

It's not because of his age, per se, but what is done to kids to keep them, well, kids.

You're really generalizing here. So you don't think a 15 year old is mentally capable of critical thinking and questioning?

[DeusExMachina]

^ you're off topic, dude.
I'm pretty sure everyone here is off topic.

[kearn1tm]

You're really generalizing here. So you don't think a 15 year old is mentally capable of critical thinking and questioning?

Am I generalizing or using correlative evidence to suggest certain things?

Yes, I think 15 year olds can critically think. No, I don't think it's encouraged in certain instances, especially when looking at the functions of macro institutions. Yes, I think their ability to do so is hindered because of this. Yes, I don't think there's a large level of kids who actually know why using non-hetero identity as an insult is damaging. Are they capable of it? Yes, but to do so, you often need to know the foundations of why it's something to look at in different ways. That isn't being given.

When I was 15, there were a few kids who wouldn't use "gay" or the f** as a pejorative. They said "that's homophobic," yet didn't really know why. Those reasons (which are many, deep, and rich) are not given easily to anyone, let alone kids taught to be dependent, taught that the epistemological nature of education is infallible.

[drawndead]

Bon Jovi - It's My Life

[the seventeenth]

See, again, when people call cats out on their own bullshit, these cats often happen to be heterosexual. Interesting.

Here's the deal: Being something other than hetero is an insult because of the cultural belief that being queer is "bad" and makes them subhuman. It's not the ideal identity of the dominant culture and therefor, the deviation that reinforces the norm.

So these "funny little jokes" are also a lovely little form of oppression in their own right. There's more to it than you're acknowledging. The fact that you're claiming I'm "exagerating" a very dangerous belief that's manifested in a seemingly innocuous joke is part of the way this shit continues. Don't be lame. You're a kid, you know nothing but what you've been indoctrinated into. When you argue back, and you will, you'll be wrong.

Were done here as long as ideology that leads to social inequity like this continues, cool Speed Racer (har har har...my homies laugh at my jokes!)?

Yeah, your right- I will fight back because I'm not going to be talked down to by anybody, and, anyways, being accused of only knowing what I've been indoctrinated into is pretty deemening and a false accusation none-the-less.
Yeah, being queer isn't the ideal identity of any culture, I understand this; and my jokes on said sexual attractions and tensions aren't trying to offend anybody or label anybody as a subhuman (even though they may be), there just jokes that have been worn out so much that they begin offending certain people. It continues, it won't soon end, and as far as I'll be concerned they are jokes, and will remain jokes. No matter whether that lovely little form of oppression follows, I know I'm joking and I couldn't care less about anybody's sexual preferences. I'll keep using my belated jokes and I'll get on with my life and so will you and everybody else.

/fixed

and yeah, Speed Racer- I have used that term for years now, hardy har har.

[IntoTheSun]

Am I generalizing or using correlative evidence to suggest certain things?

Yes, I think 15 year olds can critically think. No, I don't think it's encouraged in certain instances, especially when looking at the functions of macro institutions. Yes, I think their ability to do so is hindered because of this. Yes, I don't think there's a large level of kids who actually know why using non-hetero identity as an insult is damaging. Are they capable of it? Yes, but to do so, you often need to know the foundations of why it's something to look at in different ways. That isn't being given.

Right. But these prevailing attitudes don't just apply to ignorant kids, they could apply to ignorant humans in general. Since we're getting a bit off here, my inital point was to simply state that you were being a bit condescending and presumptuous about his intentions, the same way he was about yours. I just figured a nicer route would have worked more effectively, ah well.

[IntoTheSun]

Yeah, your right- I will fight back because I'm not going to be talked down to by anybody, and, anyways, being accused of only knowing what I've been indoctrinated into is pretty deemening and a false accusation none-the-less.
Yeah, being queer isn't the ideal identity of any culture, I understand this; and my jokes on said sexual attractions and tensions aren't trying to offend anybody or label anybody as a subhuman (even though they may be), there just jokes that have been worn out so much that they begin offending certain people. It continues, it won't soon end, and as far as I'll be concerned they are jokes, and will remain jokes. No matter whether that lovely little form of oppression follows, I know I'm joking and I couldn't care less about anybody's sexual preferences. I'll keep using my belated jokes and I'll get on with my life and so will you and everybody else.

/fixed

and yeah, Speed Racer- I have used that term for years now, hardy har har.

But you don't think that if people became more open and aware of these ongoing social inequalities they'd stop using homosexuality as a joke? It will only remain oppressive if this sort of indifferent attitude about it continues.

[SophGod]

fajita burrito. it's a burrito but with rice and grilled peppers/onions instead of beans.

i always get a burrito with 1/2 chicken and 1/2 steak. it never fails to be delicious.



It's official, I'm going to chipotle after tennis practice tomorrow.

[kearn1tm]

Yeah, your right- I will fight back because I'm not going to be talked down to by anybody, and, anyways, being accused of only knowing what I've been indoctrinated into is pretty deemening and a false accusation none-the-less.

What's demeaning is your cute little jokes perpetuating the notion that being queer is somehow an insult, that it's less than being hetero, which is an extension of the matrix of oppression and the bullshit hierarchy based on ascribed status. Yeah, that's fucking demeaning. Don't pretend like you've just been victimized here.

Yeah, being queer isn't the ideal identity of any culture, I understand this; and my jokes on said sexual attractions and tensions aren't trying to offend anybody or label anybody as a subhuman (even though they may be), there just jokes
They're not "just jokes" and you clearly don't "understand this." Are you deliberately trying to offend or call anyone subhuman? No. I wasn't deliberately trying to be xenophobic when I called a lady a "Pollock" when I was 7. I learned that it was a joke. That the term was just a joke aimed at Poles. Turns out, it wasn't. Turns out, that "joke" had some weight behind it.
that have been worn out so much that they begin offending certain people.
This is such a stupid argument. If anything, it proliferates and makes this shit more accepted. Do you know how to rob something like this of power? You don't. However, the subjugated group certainly can try by reclaiming something harmful or hurtful. Respect and honor your privilege and understand this.


and yeah, Speed Racer- I have used that term for years now, hardy har har.
You're not funny, either.

[kearn1tm]

Right. But these prevailing attitudes don't just apply to ignorant kids, they could apply to ignorant humans in general. Since we're getting a bit off here, my inital point was to simply state that you were being a bit condescending and presumptuous about his intentions, the same way he was about yours. I just figured a nicer route would have worked more effectively, ah well.

Sure, if you ignore the entire, traceable, measurable purposes of adolescence and the institution of school, but since I'm not in the habit of ignoring that, no, I don't think I'm being condescending at all.

Show me the concrete proof that being queer is less than being hetero (sexual attraction is, in part, also socially/culturally constructed).

Now, take any soc class and they'll point you toward the myriad studies, books and published treatises on adolescence, how it does, in fact, keep kids in an extended state of dependency and susceptibility to the dominant ideologies and how school does, in fact, help to hinder critical analysis. Yes, it's not as surprising to see a 15 year old blindly following dominant ideology, with all that considered. Sure, they're still capable of doing so, but it certainly isn't nurtured, in fact, it's the opposite.

But yes, teens can do this. I'm sure there have been quite a few that have.

[Plutonio]

I thought we were past this whole "adam and eve not adam and steve" thing.

[kearn1tm]

I thought we were past this whole "adam and eve not adam and steve" thing.

It's just a joke, bro. We make it enough and it won't even matter!

[Ava1anche]

Adam's Song - blink-182

[the seventeenth]

But you don't think that if people became more open and aware of these ongoing social inequalities they'd stop using homosexuality as a joke? It will only remain oppressive if this sort of indifferent attitude about it continues.

I contradict my intentional means in this sentence. Yeah, if situations like this were more thoroughly thought through then social inequalities would be diminished, no doubt, but since a vast majority of the worlds population is as ignorant as they were first born into- the likelihood of this happening is slim to none, or would occur in a yet undefined time.
I rarely make jokes like this, but I can't really say that a small joke like that could have that large of an impact on a community.
As a matter of fact, last week in school we disscussed the demeaning term of 'retard' and how it affected 3 percent of the worlds' population daily; haven't used or thought about the word until today. Really sad and touching to hear some stories involving the hurt behind the use of the word.
Until my eyes are actually opened to the demeaning term of 'gay', I can't say I'll understand where people come from. It was a lame joke with no intentions of offensiveness.

[the seventeenth]

It's just a joke, bro. We make it enough and it won't even matter!

reminds me of my 'joke', so that is just a 'joke'? A 'joke?! My joke was used enough, too, yet you blew that out of proportion.

[the seventeenth]

What's demeaning is your cute little jokes perpetuating the notion that being queer is somehow an insult, that it's less than being hetero, which is an extension of the matrix of oppression and the bullshit hierarchy based on ascribed status. Yeah, that's fucking demeaning. Don't pretend like you've just been victimized here.


They're not "just jokes" and you clearly don't "understand this." Are you deliberately trying to offend or call anyone subhuman? No. I wasn't deliberately trying to be xenophobic when I called a lady a "Pollock" when I was 7. I learned that it was a joke. That the term was just a joke aimed at Poles. Turns out, it wasn't. Turns out, that "joke" had some weight behind it.

This is such a stupid argument. If anything, it proliferates and makes this shit more accepted. Do you know how to rob something like this of power? You don't. However, the subjugated group certainly can try by reclaiming something harmful or hurtful. Respect and honor your privilege and understand this.



You're not funny, either.


Do you really have this kind of outlook on life, or are you usually just a passive aggresive contradicting douche on a day-to-day basis?

and yeah, still Speed Racer- it's a joke get on with your life, I don't need to to make my joke (the term of speed racer not queer) subjective to everybody. I don't care if you think it is funny or not.

edit: only read the first and last reply didn't mean to come off so harsh, but still don't tell me what I know and don't know, I know plenty.

[SophGod]

this thread is a joke. the bad kind.

[KatastrophiE]

unbreak my heart - toni braxton

[kearn1tm]

reminds me of my 'joke', so that is just a 'joke'? A 'joke?! My joke was used enough, too, yet you blew that out of proportion.

In regards to the statement of mine that you quoted, read what comes below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm


and now, choosing to call out ignorance, which is an extremely harmful thing, is not "blowing that out of proportion." I can't say this definitively, but I'm almost certain you've never thought of the reasons why this is a problem before I even mentioned it. You were confronted and you became angry and indignant.

One more time; your joke was not innocuous. It's a direct result of the ideological perspective that heteo is the norm, hetero is right and everything else is a deviance. You weren't making it in some ironic way. You were using it as a throwaway line like every other goon who says "yeah, well you're tots gay! Ha!" It wasn't even clever. No, I blew nothing out of proportion. Learn from this. Don't be a tool.

[Plutonio]

It's just a joke, bro. We make it enough and it won't even matter!
Lol. Kind of unrelated, but I have to disagree with you on some points of the sociology and school argument and here's why.

Granted, yes, schools do hinder the branchong-out of adolescent's maturity, leading to a more clique-based society in our youth; however, there have always been precocious adolescents in our society and, if history truly does repeat itself, then yes, there always will be. Because of this, there will always be people who lead others away from cliche fads. There will always be children who are obsucre and persuade others to do the same. People will find their niche, and others will always follow; that is not to say that there is no obscurity within our youth's social structure, which seems to be what you are saying.

[kearn1tm]

alkajflaj;dfa

The devil's greatest trick was convincing everyone he didn't exist. Socialization, dude.

I'm not being passive-aggressive. I'm being very abrasive. Do you know anything, or do your teachers drop some reference to something and you get horny to prove you know something without actually knowing it? You're like the kid who learned a new, big word and wants to throw it around without actually knowing what it means.

I don't need to to make my joke

Good. Go with that. Refrain from making them.

I don't care if [anyone] think it is funny or not.

Clearly.

edit: only read the first and last reply didn't mean to come off so harsh, but still don't tell me what I know and don't know, I know plenty.

I'm going to tell you what you do and don't know.

[kearn1tm]

Lol. Kind of unrelated, but I have to disagree with you on some points of the sociology and school argument and here's why.

Granted, yes, schools do hinder the branchong-out of adolescent's maturity, leading to a more clique-based society in our youth; however, there have always been precocious adolescents in our society and, if history truly does repeat itself, then yes, there always will be. Because of this, there will always be people who lead others away from cliche fads. There will always be children who are obsucre and persuade others to do the same. People will find their niche, and others will always follow; that is not to say that there is no obscurity within our youth's social structure, which seems to be what you are saying.

I just read a really cool anthro report that refutes this.

Children, being small, were often invaluable navigators and coordinators in hunts for food. In fact, adolescence, as I mentioned, was essentially a creation of post-industrial lack of a need of work. That clique thing is, in fact, a crude representation of value, status and competition.

[Griff]

They just opened and it was a thing.


In Mt. Pleasant?? If so, this could be great news for me.

[kearn1tm]

I don't think I've ever used the ignore function, but I'm really bored of arguing with this dude. He hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

[kearn1tm]

In Mt. Pleasant?? If so, this could be great news for me.

Yep. It's great. I'm going to get fat.

[Griff]

Yep. It's great. I'm going to get fat.


Where at?? (it'll definitely contribute to the fatness that qdoba already provides me)

[IntoTheSun]

Sure, if you ignore the entire, traceable, measurable purposes of adolescence and the institution of school, but since I'm not in the habit of ignoring that, no, I don't think I'm being condescending at all.

I'm not trying to defend the dude, it's just that tone I take issues with.

Show me the concrete proof that being queer is less than being hetero (sexual attraction is, in part, also socially/culturally constructed).

Why would I attempt to prove something so obtuse and completely untrue?

Now, take any soc class and they'll point you toward the myriad studies, books and published treatises on adolescence, how it does, in fact, keep kids in an extended state of dependency and susceptibility to the dominant ideologies and how school does, in fact, help to hinder critical analysis. Yes, it's not as surprising to see a 15 year old blindly following dominant ideology, with all that considered. Sure, they're still capable of doing so, but it certainly isn't nurtured, in fact, it's the opposite.

But yes, teens can do this. I'm sure there have been quite a few that have.

Sure, I can see that.

I contradict my intentional means in this sentence. Yeah, if situations like this were more thoroughly thought through then social inequalities would be diminished, no doubt, but since a vast majority of the worlds population is as ignorant as they were first born into- the likelihood of this happening is slim to none, or would occur in a yet undefined time.
I rarely make jokes like this, but I can't really say that a small joke like that could have that large of an impact on a community.
As a matter of fact, last week in school we disscussed the deemening term of 'retard' and how it affected 3 percent of the worlds' population daily; haven't used or thought about the word until today. Really sad and touching to hear some stories involving the hurt behind the use of the word.


True, this applies to a lot of things besides homosexuality, it's a good point to bring up. If you just look at the changes in the past 50 years, prejudice has diminished greatly, or at least, has become a lot more subtle as opposed to blatant discrimination. I don't believe it will take that long, relatively, for society as a whole to become more aware of the inequalities against gay people as well. There's already been significant progress, and I'm not claiming that it will go away completely, because stereotyping and prejudices are inevitable, but at least it's an ongoing effort. And jokes like the one you made, as harmless as it may seem, propel this sort of progress backwards because it's seen still as socially acceptable.
Until my eyes are actually opened to the deemening term of 'gay', I can't say I'll understand where people come from. It was a lame joke with no intentions of offensiveness.
"Gay" is not a demeaning term, though it is frequently misused as an insult by some people. That's why it's a problem.

[Plutonio]

I just read a really cool anthro report that refutes this.

Children, being small, were often invaluable navigators and coordinators in hunts for food. In fact, adolescence, as I mentioned, was essentially a creation of post-industrial lack of a need of work. That clique thing is, in fact, a crude representation of value, status and competition.

It's not only limited to adults. How many cliques have broken the borders of adolescents and made their way into adults? A lot. Some are even adult-only. Therefore, that sort of thinking is either flawed, or you must admit that the workplace, or people in general, have the same effect as public schools. I understand what you are saying and all, but I think that precocious and talented children get less credit than they deserve. Case in point, many avant-garde artists begin their work as adolescents. Many CEOs begin their work as adolescents. Many of our world's greatest minds began their intellecutal and creative growth in their teen years, despite the odds brought down on so many by our schools. Therefore, your logic is not bulletproof as Stephenie Meyer has tried to show.

[Plutonio]

I'm not trying to defend the dude, it's just that tone I take issues with.



Why would I attempt to prove something so obtuse and completely untrue?



Sure, I can see that.



True, this applies to a lot of things besides homosexuality, it's a good point to bring up. If you just look at the changes in the past 50 years, prejudice has diminished greatly, or at least, has become a lot more subtle as opposed to blatant discrimination. I don't believe it will take that long, relatively, for society as a whole to become more aware of the inequalities against gay people as well. There's already been significant progress, and I'm not claiming that it will go away completely, because stereotyping and prejudices are inevitable, but at least it's an ongoing effort. And jokes like the one you made, as harmless as it may seem, propel this sort of progress backwards because it's seen still as socially acceptable.

"Gay" is not a demeaning term, though it is frequently misused as an insult by some people. That's why it's a problem.
This. The more that people who are oftentimes discriminated against separate themselves from society, the more they make discrimination more evident.

[Scrandon]

It's okay to make fun of people for liking crappy music and fistpumping (and telling them to die), but NO GAY JOKES MAN

Hypocrite.

[Plutonio]

Hypocrite.
What if they're gay and fistpump and listen to crappy music?

[Scrandon]

You were rejected too, bro? I know it's hard, but you'll tough it out.

Thanks for the misquote. I can tell you're a real tough one aren't you?

[Plutonio]

I don't think I've ever used the ignore function, but I'm really bored of arguing with this dude. He hasn't a clue what he's talking about.
Who me?

[IntoTheSun]

Who me?

No, the kid who made the joke.

[Plutonio]

No, the kid who made the joke.
I was going to say...