Eminem and Lil Wayne

[allthewaysaid]

Eminem and Lil Wayne recorded a song together which it bothers me because I was kinda hoping Eminem disliked Lill Wayne as much as I do.

Anyone agree with me? Anyone agree that Lil Wayne is not worthy enough of rapping side by side with Eminem?
Eminem is one of the 3 rappers I listen to.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Eminem sucks now

[murrich]

I prefer Lil Wayne over Eminem.

[Matt Chylak]

i enjoy good rapping, whether it's done by weezy, eminem, jay-z, drake, or whoever.

[Andy Young]

I love the first two Eminem albums but anything after that was decent at best.

Lil Wayne is hit and miss for me, I like bits and pieces of his last couple albums.

[softhands]

Eminem was good, Lil Wayne was bad.

Eminem is bad, Lil Wayne is good.

[roughroads]

Eminem was good for a while, then decent, now bad
lil wayne always sucked.

[NateFoundGlory]

Eminem was good, Lil Wayne was bad.

Eminem is bad, Lil Wayne is good.

This is irrelevant as hell, but I strongly like your avatar.


I can't really stand Wayne, but I respect him. Always had a thing for Eminem, however. But Relapse kinda sucks.

[Formatfun]

Eminem's still the best with words and rhyming, in my opinion. I'll never like another rapper as much as him. I bet his next album's better than Relapse, which I still think was pretty good.

[poppa Q]

Eminem and Lil Wayne recorded a song together which it bothers me because I was kinda hoping Eminem disliked Lill Wayne as much as I do.

Anyone agree with me? Anyone agree that Lil Wayne is not worthy enough of rapping side by side with Eminem?
Eminem is one of the 3 rappers I listen to.

trust me, it's personal

[billyboatkid]

Eminem sucks now

Truth.

[ActorInThisPlay]

they are 2 of my favorite rappers and have released some great albums as well as some not so good ones.

[FBTMOPenguins]

Eminem and Lil Wayne recorded a song together which it bothers me because I was kinda hoping Eminem disliked Lill Wayne as much as I do.

Anyone agree with me? Anyone agree that Lil Wayne is not worthy enough of rapping side by side with Eminem?
Eminem is one of the 3 rappers I listen to.

Eminem is good and all don't get me wrong but if he's one of only three maybe you should try listening to some more rap. Recommend Big L, Big Pun circa Capital Punishment, and a lot more but start with them.

[LastDeclaration]

Relapse might've been good if it weren't for the accent. But yeah, he still just sucks now. And fuck Lil Wayne.

[Alex1410]

I like both of them put prefer Lil Wayne these days.

[bNz719]

Eminem actually has talent. Lil Wayne...yeah, no.

[whothehellispat]

http://shcollective.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/mos1.jpg

[PlacesToGo]

dude, lil wayne could have rapped circles around em when wayne was just 13.

[route36west1]

eminem was good back in the day, drought 3 for wayne was like some of his best shit. now theyre both kinda ehh, with eminem's relapse and lil wayne's "rock" album its all kinda trash. even though no ceilings was some fire

[industrialbelt]

dude, lil wayne could have rapped circles around em when wayne was just 13.
wayne was awful when he was that young.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

http://shcollective.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/mos1.jpg

The correct answer.

BUCKA BUCKA BUCKA BUCKA

[InTheatersNow]

Wayne is better right now.

[kemichels]

Eminem sucks now

This.
/thread.

[TakeLotsWithAlcohol]

So...did anyone here hear Rebirth?

It makes Relapse sound like The Marshall Mathers LP.

[kemichels]

So...did anyone here hear Rebirth?

It makes Relapse sound like The Marshall Mathers LP.

It makes Relapse sound like Deltron 3030, haha. So bad.

[icfnuk]

both suck big time...

[SophGod]

they're both really good, and both of them had subpar last album.

[PlacesToGo]

So...did anyone here hear Rebirth?

It makes Relapse sound like The Marshall Mathers LP.

we're discussing the majority of their rap albums - which means wayne kills em.

[SophGod]

Eminem sucks now

ynt7HeKcSKs
he's still got it.

[mantipede]

The correct answer.

BUCKA BUCKA BUCKA BUCKA

/This
I also can't think of an album I've listened to more consistently in the past 3 years than True Magic. It's disgusting how good that album is.

[ThisIsNotDan]

ynt7HeKcSKs
he's still got it.

well yeah, that, "Underground", and "Beautiful" are probably the only good songs he's done in a really long time

[ActorInThisPlay]

Em's still got it. His verse on Drop the World was sick. Music Box is a great dis track. He just needs to lose that retarded accent and he'll be fine.

Lil Wayne needs to lose the auto-tune and the I think I can be a rock star mentality and go back to what he's good at.

[HometownHero]

Both can be good when they want to

[3eb23]

Em's still got it.

I definitely thought that when I watched that BET cypher and that grammy performance. I think a lot of people will be saying this after Relapse 2 comes out.

[summer skin]

Great concept for a thread ******.

[golferpunk1]

It's ridiculous that it's even a comparison. Eminem is SO much better than any rapper. His latest albums may have lacked in subject matter but as far as rapping ability no one even comes close. It's almost embarrassing when he's on a track with other rappers because he is so much better. Everyone says how he sucks now but I think that's mainly due to the fact that his subject matter isn't original anymore. That doesn't seem to matter for other rappers who constantly rap about the same crap.

[summer skin]

It's ridiculous that it's even a comparison. Eminem is SO much better than any rapper. His latest albums may have lacked in subject matter but as far as rapping ability no one even comes close. It's almost embarrassing when he's on a track with other rappers because he is so much better. Everyone says how he sucks now but I think that's mainly due to the fact that his subject matter isn't original anymore. That doesn't seem to matter for other rappers who constantly rap about the same crap.
That's the white in you talking.

[tonyt3524]

Eminem is better when he does this type of shit. Good to see

[summer skin]

Here's the thing about Eminem. All of his solo songs as of recent years have blown, but when he's featured on a song he goes banana's. It's like he only raps good to try and make other people look bad. Take forever for example:
eDuRoPIOBjE
Everyone is rapping one way then he comes in and just decides to rap as fast as he possibly can and everyone says he's great.
if he had done the same verse at the same speed as the rest of everyone else people would be able to realize that his verse is straight garbage.
in closing, don't have eminem on your track unless you want him to try too hard to make you look shitty.

[golferpunk1]

That's the white in you talking.
nope, he's just better. the depth of his rhymes kill anyone else. Why do you think 50 cent's debut is still heralded as one of the best rap albums to date? Because most of the lyrics were written by Mr. Mathers. No comparison.

[summer skin]

nope, he's just better. the depth of his rhymes kill anyone else. Why do you think 50 cent's debut is still heralded as one of the best rap albums to date? Because most of the lyrics were written by Mr. Mathers. No comparison.
It isn't.

[golferpunk1]

It isn't.
Ha ha ha. yeah you sure know your stuff.

[SophGod]

Ha ha ha. yeah you sure know your stuff.

50 cent doesn't even cross my mind when I think of great rappers.

[golferpunk1]

50 cent doesn't even cross my mind when I think of great rappers.
Because he's not. Hence my point. That album is very highly acclaimed in the hip hop community.

[summer skin]

Ha ha ha. yeah you sure know your stuff.

Because he's not. Hence my point. That album is very highly acclaimed in the hip hop community.
Have you ever met a black person? Like on one of your missions or something?

[golferpunk1]

Ha ha ha. Keep them coming. Your argument has failed so why not start attacking someone personally. I guess I should have expected as much.

[summer skin]

Ha ha ha. Keep them coming. Your argument has failed so why not start attacking someone personally. I guess I should have expected as much.
Your argument for why eminem is the greatest rapper is a 50 cent album. Have you ever even heard a wu-tang song?

[SophGod]

Because he's not. Hence my point. That album is very highly acclaimed in the hip hop community.

What hip-hop community are you talking about?

[summer skin]

What hip-hop community are you talking about?
the thriving SLC hip hop scene
http://www.perpetualchild.com/icyhotstuntaz/icyhot2.jpg

[Star Slight]

Ha ha ha. Keep them coming. Your argument has failed so why not start attacking someone personally. I guess I should have expected as much.

I..I...Who's feeding you your facts about anything?

[golferpunk1]

Have you ever met a black person? Like on one of your missions or something?
#16 highest selling rap album.
http://welovehiphop.com/2009/05/top-20-selling-rap-albums-of-all-time/
This is just one of the many lists online that place Get Rich or Die Tryin' in the top 50 greatest rap albums.
http://www.listology.com/podizz/list/50-greatest-hip-hop-albums-all-time

I'm afraid you lose my friend.

[Star Slight]

#16 highest selling rap album.
http://welovehiphop.com/2009/05/top-20-selling-rap-albums-of-all-time/
This is just one of the many lists online that place Get Rich or Die Tryin' in the top 50 greatest rap albums.
http://www.listology.com/podizz/list/50-greatest-hip-hop-albums-all-time

I'm afraid you lose my friend.


Hahhahahhahaha if you're trying to use the top selling rap albums as a reason why 50 is good, take a look at # 2.

And the second link is just some user named Podizz' list.

[golferpunk1]

the thriving SLC hip hop scene
http://www.perpetualchild.com/icyhotstuntaz/icyhot2.jpg
Ha Ha Ha! since Las Vegas is so much better.

[golferpunk1]

Hahhahahhahaha if you're trying to use the top selling rap albums as a reason why 50 is good, take a look at # 2.

And the second link is just some user named Podizz' list.
Just took a few of the top results from google. feel free to provide a list that doesn't include him from a better source.

[summer skin]

#16 highest selling rap album.
http://welovehiphop.com/2009/05/top-20-selling-rap-albums-of-all-time/
This is just one of the many lists online that place Get Rich or Die Tryin' in the top 50 greatest rap albums.
http://www.listology.com/podizz/list/50-greatest-hip-hop-albums-all-time

I'm afraid you lose my friend.
Again you're arguing about eminem not 50... and your sources are billboard, and some random website. Neither are indicative of talent.
Ha Ha Ha! since Las Vegas is so much better.
http://www.myspace.com/magnificentmicmolesters

[summer skin]

Just took a few of the top results from google. feel free to provide a list that doesn't include him from a better source.
listverse (http://listverse.com/2009/10/03/top-10-most-famous-penises/)

[Star Slight]

Just took a few of the top results from google. feel free to provide a list that doesn't include him from a better source.

1st result
http://rap.about.com/od/toppicks/ss/Top100RapAlbums_10.htm


EDIT:
I know this isn't very credible and I disagree, but this lists 50 twice:
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/overrated-hip-hop-albums.asp

EDIT:
http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2005/greatest_albums_0505/

[bowl of oranges]

trust me, it's personalsweet avy

[golferpunk1]

Again you're arguing about eminem not 50... and your sources are billboard, and some random website. Neither are indicative of talent.

http://www.myspace.com/magnificentmicmolesters
I'm using an album that Em wrote since you claimed my statement that Eminem is the best rapper what only because I'm white. 50 is black. I think it's hilarious that you post some myspace page of a rapper from LV as an argument.

[allthewaysaid]

It's ridiculous that it's even a comparison. Eminem is SO much better than any rapper. His latest albums may have lacked in subject matter but as far as rapping ability no one even comes close. It's almost embarrassing when he's on a track with other rappers because he is so much better. Everyone says how he sucks now but I think that's mainly due to the fact that his subject matter isn't original anymore. That doesn't seem to matter for other rappers who constantly rap about the same crap.


Thank You very much.

[Star Slight]

Going by the writing credits on 50's album, Em only wrote 3 songs.

[Star Slight]

The bottom line is, if you think Eminem is the greatest rapper period, let alone the greatest white rapper, you really need to listen to more hip hop.

[summer skin]

I'm using an album that Em wrote since you claimed my statement that Eminem is the best rapper what only because I'm white. 50 is black. I think it's hilarious that you post some myspace page of a rapper from LV as an argument.
writing lyrics and rapping do not = the same thing. I don't even dislike eminem, i dislike that you think he's the greatest rapper ever because you don't listen to very much hip hop, and catch feelings when someone says otherwise.

[summer skin]

ITT: people who occasionally hear a hip hop song they like / people who have said "you can't spell crap without rap" in their life.

[Neo Cassady]

LOL at 95% of the posts in this thread.

[allthewaysaid]

I agree with golferpunk1 Eminem just kills with his lyrics.
Im not saying that Em is the biggest rapper in hip hop Im saying he's much better than Lil Wayne and most of the mianstream rappers outh there.

[SophGod]

LOL at 95% of the posts in this thread.

Did you go through the entire thread and count every post, then go back and count the ones that made you LOL and crunch the numbers? sounds like a lot of work.

[Neo Cassady]

Did you go through the entire thread and count every post, then go back and count the ones that made you LOL and crunch the numbers? sounds like a lot of work.

Now it's down to 92.65%.

[SophGod]

Now it's down to 92.65%.

i lol'd

[summer skin]

I agree with golferpunk1 Eminem just kills with his lyrics.
Im not saying that Em is the biggest rapper in hip hop Im saying he's much better than Lil Wayne and most of the mianstream rappers outh there.
Wayne has more street cred now that he's in jail.

[allthewaysaid]

Wayne has more street cred now that he's in jail.

HAHAHAHA Are you serious????? He wouldnt last a fucking day in there if he wasn't a rapper.

[3eb23]

.
if he had done the same verse at the same speed as the rest of everyone else people would be able to realize that his verse is straight garbage.

there's more to a verse than lyrics. eminem has a great delivery and breathe control. why would he "do the same verse at the same speed as the rest of everyone else"? that's stupid.

[summer skin]

HAHAHAHA Are you serious????? He wouldnt last a fucking day in there if he wasn't a rapper.
he's not going to federal prison retard. the only risk he has is dying of boredom in the day room.

[summer skin]

there's more to a verse than lyrics. eminem has a great delivery and breathe control. why would he "do the same verse at the same speed as the rest of everyone else"? that's stupid.
I'm not saying he has to but he just comes on like a moron on that track like "look how fast i flow compared to these other queers"

[SophGod]

he's not going to federal prison retard. the only risk he has is dying of boredom in the day room.

I'm sure he's comin up with some sweet rhymes in there.

[summer skin]

I'm sure he's comin up with some sweet rhymes in there.
carter IIII is going to be hard as fuck.

[allthewaysaid]

he's not going to federal prison retard. the only risk he has is dying of boredom in the day room.

Thats why dumbass, Im saying that if he did went to a federal prison for his felony he wouldnt last a day haha
He's getting street cred for spending for doing his time sorrounded by guards make him sure no one touches him? Haha

I bet you when he comes out he's going to rap about how hard doing his time was haha

[SophGod]

I bet you when he comes out he's going to rap about how hard doing his time was haha

Yes and the resulting album is going to be amazing.

[summer skin]

Thats why dumbass, Im saying that if he did went to a federal prison for his felony he wouldnt last a day haha
He's getting street cred for spending for doing his time sorrounded by guards make him sure no one touches him? Haha

I bet you when he comes out he's going to rap about how hard doing his time was haha
Time is time. I would be devastated if I had to spend a year of my life in prison regardless of how dangerous it is/isn't.

[allthewaysaid]

Time is time. I would be devastated if I had to spend a year of my life in prison regardless of how dangerous it is/isn't.

Hahaha I did sometime in house arrest.........I was devastated too.

[3eb23]

I'm not saying he has to but he just comes on like a moron on that track like "look how fast i flow compared to these other queers"

He should bring it on guest spots. Luda always brought it on guest spots. You don't wanna be shown up. But basically what it comes down to is he is a better rapper than all 3 of them.

[summer skin]

He should bring it on guest spots. Luda always brought it on guest spots. You don't wanna be shown up. But basically what it comes down to is he is a better rapper than all 3 of them.
WAS a better rapper than all of them...Was.

[ActorInThisPlay]

carter IIII is going to be hard as fuck.
roman numeral fail...IV

[Punk_Addict09]

I prefer weezy f. baby over eminem.
To me eminem was really good when he started but now eh not so much
But i am excited to hear this song. I hope lil wayne doesn't disappoint.

[summer skin]

roman numeral fail...IV
it's so hard it ignores the rules set forth by the romans.
We off that.

[golferpunk1]

WAS a better rapper than all of them...Was.
When did the song he's referring to come out? Oh yeah, it was the latest track that Eminem has been on. Sorry

[summer skin]

When did the song he's referring to come out? Oh yeah, it was the latest track that Eminem has been on. Sorry
take any of those rappers latest work and it destroys any eminem album that's come out after 2000.

[ActorInThisPlay]

take any of those rappers latest work and it destroys any eminem album that's come out after 2000.
I thought Eminem Show was pretty damn good actually.

[golferpunk1]

take any of those rappers latest work and it destroys any eminem album that's come out after 2000.
I'll give you that Carter III was better than Em's post 2000 work. That is Wayne's only complete album that has been any good. He has a lot of single songs that are awesome but his other albums are nothing compared to Carter III from start to finish. The man makes so many mix tapes its like he has 1 good song for every 10 he makes.

Kanye is a joke and its too early to tell if Drake will be any good.

[Star Slight]

I'll give you that Carter III was better than Em's post 2000 work. That is Wayne's only complete album that has been any good. He has a lot of single songs that are awesome but his other albums are nothing compared to Carter III from start to finish. The man makes so many mix tapes its like he has 1 good song for every 10 he makes.

Kanye is a joke and its too early to tell if Drake will be any good.

Every one of Kanye's hip hop albums is better than Em's recent work, and Drake has 6+ mixtapes worth of material, its safe to say hes putting out better shit than Em right now.

Wayne doesn't make as many mixtapes as everyone says. Every official one that he puts out is ridiculously good and well thought out. No Ceilings was amazing.

[ActorInThisPlay]

I'll give you that Carter III was better than Em's post 2000 work. That is Wayne's only complete album that has been any good. He has a lot of single songs that are awesome but his other albums are nothing compared to Carter III from start to finish. The man makes so many mix tapes its like he has 1 good song for every 10 he makes.

Kanye is a joke and its too early to tell if Drake will be any good.
Carter II is far superior to Carter III in just about every aspect.

[golferpunk1]

Every one of Kanye's hip hop albums is better than Em's recent work, and Drake has 6+ mixtapes worth of material, its safe to say hes putting out better shit than Em right now.

Wayne doesn't make as many mixtapes as everyone says. Every official one that he puts out is ridiculously good and well thought out. No Ceilings was amazing.
Kanye's music is complete garbage. IMO. I understand some people like it but not me. It's beyond ridiculous that you think Drake is making better music than Eminem. No ceilings was one of Wayne's better mixtapes but it also had a lot of awful tracks, just like the millions he makes. He hasn't made a great mixtape since Drought 3 and even that one could be cut in half with all the throw away tracks.

[golferpunk1]

Carter II is far superior to Carter III in just about every aspect.
I disagree. Which one won the grammy?

[ActorInThisPlay]

I disagree. Which one won the grammy?
haha terrible argument. are you going to tell me that Taylor Swift's album really was the best album last year?

[golferpunk1]

haha terrible argument. are you going to tell me that Taylor Swift's album really was the best album last year?
Actually it's a very good argument. It means that a huge number of people believe that it is the best album of the year. Do I agree? No. The fact that you or I don't agree with it doesn't take away the fact that they won that very prestigious award. What argument have you made? Oh yeah that's right you just stated your opinion. I stated mine as well but ALSO provided a valid argument as to why the Carter III is better.

[ActorInThisPlay]

Actually it's a very good argument. It means that a huge number of people believe that it is the best album of the year. Do I agree? No. The fact that you or I don't agree with it doesn't take away the fact that they won that very prestigious award. What argument have you made? Oh yeah that's right you just stated your opinion. I stated mine as well but ALSO provided a valid argument as to why the Carter III is better.
haha it's not a good argument at all. The Grammy's are a joke. Are you going to tell me that Relapse is as good as Marshall Mathers LP since both won Best Rap Album? The beats, his flow, and the lyrics are all better on Tha Carter II.

[WhoSaidThat?]

:hitself: at the bulk of the thread (namely golferpunk1).

Eminem isn't a washed-up artist. He just put out ONE medicore record last year, which still had enough bright spots (coupled with that diss track to Mariah/Nick, as well as his verses on Forever, Drop the World, and Psycho) on it to show that, while it doesn't make up for it still being substandard, he proved he isn't TOO big for his britches, and that there's still a great chance that he come correct yet again. He even explained in an awesome interview with Complex (http://www.complex.com/CELEBRITIES/Cover-Story/Eminem) that when making R1, he was still trying to get the juices flowing, essentially being in the "crawling stage". And now he's flipped the page and decided to move towards more emotionally-driven stuff for Relapse 2, (possibly more songs in the vein of Beautiful, Deja Vu, Mockingbird, Like Toy Soldiers, and the majority of The Eminem Show, for all I know).

For now, I'm just going to wait and for what Em brings to the table with R2. But I'd also argue that it's pretty irrational to claim he'll never put out more good material again.

[mike_aaron]

Both of their latest albums sucked. Lil' Wayne is the most overrated person in rap today.

*Edit - But you can usually count on Eminem to release good material. Too bad Relapse was (mostly) a miss.

[golferpunk1]

haha it's not a good argument at all. The Grammy's are a joke. Are you going to tell me that Relapse is as good as Marshall Mathers LP since both won Best Rap Album? The beats, his flow, and the lyrics are all better on Tha Carter II.
That's your opinion man.

[GamEin]

I enjoy both and think it's awesome they have some songs together.

[summer skin]

I wanna suck golferpunk's dick

[cshadows2887]

Can we get Craig to make an I Hate Lil Wayne (Official Thread) so this nonsense can all end up in the same place when it pops up every other week?

[poppa Q]

sweet avy

thanks brahmen ra

[3eb23]

:hitself: at the bulk of the thread (namely golferpunk1).

Eminem isn't a washed-up artist. He just put out ONE medicore record last year, which still had enough bright spots (coupled with that diss track to Mariah/Nick, as well as his verses on Forever, Drop the World, and Psycho) on it to show that, while it doesn't make up for it still being substandard, he proved he isn't TOO big for his britches, and that there's still a great chance that he come correct yet again. He even explained in an awesome interview with Complex (http://www.complex.com/CELEBRITIES/Cover-Story/Eminem) that when making R1, he was still trying to get the juices flowing, essentially being in the "crawling stage". And now he's flipped the page and decided to move towards more emotionally-driven stuff for Relapse 2, (possibly more songs in the vein of Beautiful, Deja Vu, Mockingbird, Like Toy Soldiers, and the majority of The Eminem Show, for all I know).

For now, I'm just going to wait and for what Em brings to the table with R2. But I'd also argue that it's pretty irrational to claim he'll never put out more good material again.

When Relapse 2 comes out people are gonna be like fuck Eminem is back. This shit's gonna be sweet I don't care what anyone else thinks.

[WhoSaidThat?]

When Relapse 2 comes out people are gonna be like fuck Eminem is back. This shit's gonna be sweet I don't care what anyone else thinks.
It'll most likely be an improvement over Relapse 1, but I don't know if he'll necessarily redeem his last two albums. Like I said, we'll have to wait and see. Regardless, even despite my disappointment with R1, it's still really awesome that Em just rose from the dead and became one of the hotter current MCs right now. No matter what MTV says.

[Sarcasm]

:hitself: at the bulk of the thread (namely golferpunk1).

Eminem isn't a washed-up artist. He just put out ONE medicore record last year, which still had enough bright spots (coupled with that diss track to Mariah/Nick, as well as his verses on Forever, Drop the World, and Psycho) on it to show that, while it doesn't make up for it still being substandard, he proved he isn't TOO big for his britches, and that there's still a great chance that he come correct yet again. He even explained in an awesome interview with Complex (http://www.complex.com/CELEBRITIES/Cover-Story/Eminem) that when making R1, he was still trying to get the juices flowing, essentially being in the "crawling stage". And now he's flipped the page and decided to move towards more emotionally-driven stuff for Relapse 2, (possibly more songs in the vein of Beautiful, Deja Vu, Mockingbird, Like Toy Soldiers, and the majority of The Eminem Show, for all I know).

For now, I'm just going to wait and for what Em brings to the table with R2. But I'd also argue that it's pretty irrational to claim he'll never put out more good material again.
Yeah, I was about to say this as well.

I don't get how one album, which wasn't entirely terrible, automatically makes Eminem terrible. So all of his old, fantastic works automatically disappear?

[ActorInThisPlay]

That's your opinion man.
hahaha...god

[George-Michael]

It's ridiculous that it's even a comparison. Eminem is SO much better than any rapper. His latest albums may have lacked in subject matter but as far as rapping ability no one even comes close. It's almost embarrassing when he's on a track with other rappers because he is so much better. Everyone says how he sucks now but I think that's mainly due to the fact that his subject matter isn't original anymore. That doesn't seem to matter for other rappers who constantly rap about the same crap.
:hitself:

[SophGod]

Kanye's music is complete garbage. IMO. I understand some people like it but not me. It's beyond ridiculous that you think Drake is making better music than Eminem. No ceilings was one of Wayne's better mixtapes but it also had a lot of awful tracks, just like the millions he makes. He hasn't made a great mixtape since Drought 3 and even that one could be cut in half with all the throw away tracks.

There's a reason no one takes you seriously.

[JosherJosherrrr]

Eminem rocks, Lil' wayne likes cocks

[loveisdead]

:hitself: at the bulk of the thread (namely golferpunk1).

Eminem isn't a washed-up artist. He just put out ONE medicore record last year, which still had enough bright spots (coupled with that diss track to Mariah/Nick, as well as his verses on Forever, Drop the World, and Psycho) on it to show that, while it doesn't make up for it still being substandard, he proved he isn't TOO big for his britches, and that there's still a great chance that he come correct yet again. He even explained in an awesome interview with Complex (http://www.complex.com/CELEBRITIES/Cover-Story/Eminem) that when making R1, he was still trying to get the juices flowing, essentially being in the "crawling stage". And now he's flipped the page and decided to move towards more emotionally-driven stuff for Relapse 2, (possibly more songs in the vein of Beautiful, Deja Vu, Mockingbird, Like Toy Soldiers, and the majority of The Eminem Show, for all I know).

For now, I'm just going to wait and for what Em brings to the table with R2. But I'd also argue that it's pretty irrational to claim he'll never put out more good material again.

:appl: Thank God this was posted.

[RiCCioLi]

Rap is crap after 1997

[ActorInThisPlay]

Rap is crap after 1997
:hitself:

[WhoSaidThat?]

:appl: Thank God this was posted.
:bow:

Just noticed this, haha.

[loveisdead]

:bow:

Just noticed this, haha.

It's all good.

[WhoSaidThat?]

It's all good.
Seriously. I just wish people were more open-minded about Eminem and the mark he's made. He shouldn't be written off completely just because his last two albums weren't that hot.

[loveisdead]

Seriously. I just wish people were more open-minded about Eminem and the mark he's made. He shouldn't be written off completely just because his last two albums weren't that hot.

I totally agree. And he's shown signs that he's still got it as much as he ever has. His verses on forever and drop the world are really good.

[ThisIsNotDan]

yes, his new verses are pretty good as well as the diss track. actually, just about everything he's done since Relapse (excluding Refill) has been pretty solid

[elr123]

lil wayne has his decent songs that can be catchy but c'mon ? his lyrics are pointless and make no sence

eminem on the other hand has tight lyrics that make you goooo crazy, eminem is a legend as for lil wayne is just there.. well technically there in jail heheh

[Star Slight]

I listened to the Drought 3 again today, which makes me think that anyone who discredits wayne as a pointless rapper has never listened to that mixtape

[mananwagha]

what the fuck is wrong with you people? this is a perfect example of why there shouldn't be a forum about RAPPERS on absolutepunk

Eminem is dope as fuck. Always was, and still is. Lil Wayne stays doin his shit, can't hate on him at all either.

[catherinexhimel]

Eminem > Lil Wayne.
I can't stand Lil Wayne.