Brand New Official Thread 20: We're Starved For Conversation

[IntoTheSun]

Post anything and everything related to Brand New, that one band from Long Island.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/8908709/Jesse+Lacey+jesusfuckjesse.jpg

This is Jesse Lacey and banana.

[DeusExMachina]

Noob post numero uno.

[WhitestKidUKnow]

I thought pennie was making the thread?

[stupidtyonparad]

yawn.

[IntoTheSun]

I wasn't sure if he actually was... Oops, too late.

[DeusExMachina]

Oh, well. What's the difference.

[xJesusFreakx]

ntASb63rN2k

[crackedthesky]

Why do we keep deciding on cool names and then using boring ones?

[Ari Christos]

Happy with the thread title. Happy with Tim's Soco video. Thread is going well so far. The first few pages are normally pretty solid before it all spirals down to hell.

[IntoTheSun]

Why do we keep deciding on cool names and then using boring ones?

Why does everyone keep complaining? haha. I liked the bullet or the chat thread one, but yesterday it seemed like most wanted this one. It's just a name. It's alright, yo.

[Ari Christos]

Why does everyone keep complaining? haha. I liked the bullet or the chat thread one, but yesterday it seemed like most wanted this one. It's just a name. It's alright, yo.

I got my record today! Na na na na boo boo :-p Playground mockery, biatch

<3

[crackedthesky]

Why does everyone keep complaining? haha. I liked the bullet or the chat thread one, but yesterday it seemed like most wanted this one. It's just a name. It's alright, yo.

I don't care about it either, it's just when I leave one night and I come here in the morning looking for the last thing I recall agreeing on, and it isn't there, I get lost xP
And when i get lost these days, my first thought is "OH GOD, WE GOT SHUT DOWN!"

[IntoTheSun]

I got my record today! Na na na na boo boo :-p Playground mockery, biatch

<3
http://24hourpartypooper.files.wordpress.c om/2009/02/sad_puppy-med.jpg

[xJesusFreakx]

Why do we keep deciding on cool names and then using boring ones?

I like this thread name. :-( What would you prefer?

Happy with the thread title. Happy with Tim's Soco video. Thread is going well so far. The first few pages are normally pretty solid before it all spirals down to hell.

"I'm just jealous 'cause you're young and in love."

Why does everyone keep complaining? haha. I liked the bullet or the chat thread one, but yesterday it seemed like most wanted this one. It's just a name. It's alright, yo.

What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet.

[Ari Christos]

http://24hourpartypooper.files.wordpress.c om/2009/02/sad_puppy-med.jpg

Oh man I feel like jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge now.

[Theseventhson]

Hey thread, this is me increasing my post count by 1.

[IntoTheSun]

Oh man I feel like jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge now.

:-p nahnahnah

Keeping on track though, how is it? Above/below expectations?

[Ari Christos]

"I'm just jealous 'cause you're young and in love."



I'm just jealous of the beard on your face, my head is full of hair but my face is starved for something

:-p nahnahnah

Keeping on track though, how is it? Above/below expectations?

I'm not much of an audiophile, and I pretty much got what I expected. It's cool, I like it, it's TDAG except bigger. It's a neat collectors item that you don't have to pay 200 dollars for. And it sounds pretty nice.

[DeusExMachina]

Hey thread, this is me increasing my post count by 1.
Congrats...?

[xJesusFreakx]

I'm just jealous of the beard on your face, my head is full of hair but my face is starved for something

<3

[IntoTheSun]

Tim doles out hearts too easily to the people that give him compliments.

[DeusExMachina]

heartslut. >=[

[muttley]

20 threads? Holy shit.

[re7ard1337]

got my record today, with the lyrics. FUQYEAH!

[DeusExMachina]

got my record today, with the lyrics. FUQYEAH!
HEY!!!... That Q doesn't have a U after it, its freakin me out.

[Ari Christos]

got my record today, with the lyrics. FUQYEAH!

Nice! What color did you get?

[kbi the crowing]

ya'll should check this shit out

http://audiomap.tuneglue.net/

[FoldAndDivide]

I remember reading the third official thread last June!

[RedoReality]

Is that picture from a magazine photo shoot or something?

Because I've always found it funny there's a picture floating around of Jesse Lacey with no shirt on in a restroom holding a banana peal with a shaved head, yet he supposedly has some weird hang up about taking pictures with fans.

[Scrandon]

Hey! Mark Hoppus eats bananas before shows too!

[DeusExMachina]

Potassium! Potassium!

[re7ard1337]

Nice! What color did you get?

white marble with black swirl.

[evvandflow]

man i dont think ive ever been around for the start of a new thread, and im always confused.

[xJesusFreakx]

Tim doles out hearts too easily to the people that give him compliments.

I'm just easy to get along with.

[Ari Christos]

man i dont think ive ever been around for the start of a new thread, and im always confused.

So stoked for American Slang

[stupidtyonparad]

you guys need to stop being so excited about a record that is lacking so much

[evvandflow]

So stoked for American Slang

just changed it again, but its still relevant.

[Burn That Shit]

got TDAG vinyl. listened to it. decided the actual flow of the album without having to change discs is a much better experience.

[kbi the crowing]

white marble with black swirl.

is the swirl actually noticeable?

[CalRahhh]

Finally seeing them on the 25th. Excited!

[evvandflow]

its not a swirl persay, white marble is the color.

[Ari Christos]

just changed it again, but its still relevant.

Red At Night might be my favorite song of theirs

got TDAG vinyl. listened to it. decided the actual flow of the album without having to change discs is a much better experience.

Yeah...yeah. You Won't Know sounds great though.

[vincelac]

you guys need to stop being so excited about a record that is lacking so much
You need to stop being such a Debbie Downer. Let people be excited. We don't bitch when you suck the dicks of Big D and Noah&theWhale.

[cshadows2887]

you guys need to stop being so excited about a record that is lacking so much

Did you jsut diss Gaslight?

You are dead to me.

[kyle is hk]

ya'll should check this shit out

http://audiomap.tuneglue.net/

Whoever can connect Lil Wayne to Brand New in the least amount of steps wins.

[Fullblast]

Most overrated band on AP.net, in other words:

http://www.hotcupofrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/newsfromdomo.jpg

[cshadows2887]

Did we really waste the chance to pun on "I've got a 20 dollar bill"? We're going to have to wait 100 threads to do it now. Ugh.

[IntoTheSun]

Most overrated band on AP.net, in other words:

http://www.hotcupofrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/newsfromdomo.jpg

Don't you mean "In other words, too many people give a fuck?"

But actually, I am quoting you because that is a successful use of DOMO. Domo-kun rules, for sure.

[Ari Christos]

Did we really waste the chance to pun on "I've got a 20 dollar bill"? We're going to have to wait 100 threads to do it now. Ugh.

We'll split off and make our own thread and just start at 19 to build hype for 20. We'll be the Straylight to their Taking Back Sunday.

[Fullblast]

Don't you mean "In other words, too many people give a fuck?"

But actually, I am quoting you because that is a successful use of DOMO. Domo-kun rules, for sure.
Exactly, I don't see what the big hype is all about. This is just my opinion but why is it that everyone thinks this band is so amazing? Pretty mediocre stuff.

[xJesusFreakx]

Did we really waste the chance to pun on "I've got a 20 dollar bill"? We're going to have to wait 100 threads to do it now. Ugh.

So, according to that person in that thread, Brand New is emo, and it's laughable for a 23-year-old to like them. Huh.

[evvandflow]

Exactly, I don't see what the big hype is all about. This is just my opinion but why is it that everyone thinks this band is so amazing? Pretty mediocre stuff.

this can be said about any band. ever.

[vincelac]

Deja Entendu + Tetris = A good Monday night

[stupidtyonparad]

Did you jsut diss Gaslight?

You are dead to me.

no...i didnt....but gaslight isn't really all that great...at all..

You need to stop being such a Debbie Downer. Let people be excited. We don't bitch when you suck the dicks of Big D and Noah&theWhale.

big d's vinyl releases don't fuck around, they deliver. noah and the whale made a whole movie based off their album. brand new could learn something from these two band's dedication

[vincelac]

Exactly, I don't see what the big hype is all about. This is just my opinion but why is it that everyone thinks this band is so amazing? Pretty mediocre stuff.
It's all about preference.

[vincelac]

no...i didnt....but gaslight isn't really all that great...at all..



big d's vinyl releases don't fuck around, they deliver. noah and the whale made a whole movie based off their album. brand new could learn something from these two band's dedication
Why do they have to make such a big deal about it though? They're just songs.

[IntoTheSun]

Exactly, I don't see what the big hype is all about. This is just my opinion but why is it that everyone thinks this band is so amazing? Pretty mediocre stuff.

Meh. Actually I joined this site initially because of the Brand New love found here, but I have branched out quite successfully afterwards. It's not like it's the only band anyone in this thread listens to. Perhaps BN just isn't your cup of tea, and I can certainly see how this band could seem mediocre to some. But hey, lots of bands feel pretty lackluster to me too, so it's cool. What type of stuff do you usually like?

[stupidtyonparad]

Why do they have to make such a big deal about it though? They're just songs.

becuase they aren't just songs. they're an album, and one the band themselves has consistently said fit together better than they could imagine with the way it turned out in relation to the artwork. jesse himself also said that pressing a record is a chance to do something special with a release and make it even better. why do they need to consistently eat their own words? some of the best linear notes aren't even on the record, instead i have a big white piece of paper that just says "tdagarim"...........i don't care about that, that doesn't make this record special at all.

[maxvsmaradona]

Did we really waste the chance to pun on "I've got a 20 dollar bill"? We're going to have to wait 100 threads to do it now. Ugh.

Hey, I thought of the thread name. Plus, in light of all the "hey, you talk of Brand New NOW OR ELSE!!!", It's fitting.

[maxvsmaradona]

You need to stop being such a Debbie Downer. Let people be excited. We don't bitch when you suck the dicks of Big D and Noah&theWhale.

Thissss.

[xJesusFreakx]

becuase they aren't just songs. they're an album, and one the band themselves has consistently said fit together better than they could imagine with the way it turned out in relation to the artwork. jesse himself also said that pressing a record is a chance to do something special with a release and make it even better. why do they need to consistently eat their own words? some of the best linear notes aren't even on the record, instead i have a big white piece of paper that just says "tdagarim"...........i don't care about that, that doesn't make this record special at all.

Now, in their defense, I imagine label constraints have some sort of bearing on this. That was an issue with that Daisy release, wasn't it? I see your point, though.

[maxvsmaradona]

Maybe a blank piece of paper that just says "tdagarim" is special to them. Totally subjective.

[cshadows2887]

Meh. Actually I joined this site initially because of the Brand New love found here, but I have branched out quite successfully afterwards. It's not like it's the only band anyone in this thread listens to. Perhaps BN just isn't your cup of tea, and I can certainly see how this band could seem mediocre to some. But hey, lots of bands feel pretty lackluster to me too, so it's cool. What type of stuff do you usually like?

Wow. VEry Tim of you. Friendly and welcoming looks good on you.

[evvandflow]

i dont think a band should be faulted because they didnt pimp out their vinyl release. if a band does, then applaud them. just b/c they didnt go the extra mile doesnt mean theyre not dedicated or w.e

[IntoTheSun]

Wow. VEry Tim of you. Friendly and welcoming looks good on you.

Shush, Chris TWO, I'm my own person!

[cshadows2887]

We'll split off and make our own thread and just start at 19 to build hype for 20. We'll be the Straylight to their Taking Back Sunday.

Except, unlike Straylight, we'll be just as good as the band we split off of.

no...i didnt....but gaslight isn't really all that great...at all..

:jawdrop:

Not ok. Btw do you like Lucero? I feel like you would.

[cshadows2887]

Shush, Chris TWO, I'm my own person!

Wow. You just owned the shit out of me. Where's all the kindness the troll was getting?

[stupidtyonparad]

Now, in their defense, I imagine label constraints have some sort of bearing on this. That was an issue with that Daisy release, wasn't it? I see your point, though.

they put the devil and god out on their own label. that's 0 excuse.

[Ari Christos]

Except, unlike Straylight, we'll be just as good as the band we split off of.



What the hell are you talking about, Thing 2? Straylight > Taking Back Sunday! I thought you said you never even listened to Straylight?

[xJesusFreakx]

they put the devil and god out on their own label. that's 0 excuse.

Oh, alright then. Huh. Just a suggestion. Well, could financial means had been a factor? Again, just throwing out random possible ideas.

[cshadows2887]

What the hell are you talking about, Thing 2? Straylight > Taking Back Sunday! I thought you said you never even listened to Straylight?

I differentiate between in-depth listens and having heard them. And I've heard enough of them to know they aren't even in the same ballpark as TBS.

[maxvsmaradona]

Wah wah. People enjoy the vinyl. Except Justin. And it matters... why?

[Ari Christos]

I differentiate between in-depth listens and having heard them. And I've heard enough of them to know they aren't even in the same ballpark as TBS.

Taking Back Sunday released 1.5 good albums. Straylight Run delivered two great albums and 3 or 4 good EPs - one of which is arguably their best work.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Straylight is miles better than TBS.

[cshadows2887]

Taking Back Sunday released 1.5 good albums. Straylight Run delivered two great albums and 3 or 4 good EPs - one of which is arguably their best work.

3.5 GREAT albums thank you very much. And the half is Where You Want to Be.

[IntoTheSun]

Oh, alright then. Huh. Just a suggestion. Well, could financial means had been a factor? Again, just throwing out random possible ideas.

I like Daisy (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=63660002#post63660 002).

[Ari Christos]

Straylight is miles better than TBS.

:highfive:

3.5 GREAT albums thank you very much. And the half is Where You Want to Be.

I agree with the bolded. Louder Now and New Again are so forgettable. I don't hate them as much as everyone else, but they're such watered down rock albums with no lasting value. Adam's vocals get so grating on New Again, too. If he actually opened his mouth when he sang, it wouldn't sad half bad.

[crackedthesky]

I like this thread name. :-( What would you prefer?



"I'm just jealous 'cause you're young and in love."



What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet.

It's not bad. When I was last in here, everyone seemed to be going for a twenty-dollar-bill reference, though. No biggie.

[vincelac]

becuase they aren't just songs. they're an album, and one the band themselves has consistently said fit together better than they could imagine with the way it turned out in relation to the artwork. jesse himself also said that pressing a record is a chance to do something special with a release and make it even better. why do they need to consistently eat their own words? some of the best linear notes aren't even on the record, instead i have a big white piece of paper that just says "tdagarim"...........i don't care about that, that doesn't make this record special at all.
You care about and expect way too much out of this vinyl release. Can't you just be happy that is was released on vinyl in the first place? Get past all the picayune details and just enjoy the god damn record like everyone else.

[xJesusFreakx]

It's not bad. When I was last in here, everyone seemed to be going for a twenty-dollar-bill reference, though. No biggie.

I did like that allusion, but I like this one, too. Granted, missing out on that chance might be sad for some people, but at least we got the 7 and 18 allusions, right?

[crackedthesky]

3.5 GREAT albums thank you very much. And the half is Where You Want to Be.

:highfive:



I agree with the bolded. Louder Now and New Again are so forgettable. I don't hate them as much as everyone else, but they're such watered down rock albums with no lasting value. Adam's vocals get so grating on New Again, too. If he actually opened his mouth when he sang, it wouldn't sad half bad.

It looks to me like you disagree- he said Louder Now and New Again were great albums, and Where You Want to Be was only half-great.
Which I couldn't disagree with more. WYWTB is, in my opinion, the band's only great album. Tell All Your Friends was a good album, and Louder Now and New Again are just boring. New Again probably has the most misleading title imagineable, because there's nothing new at all to be found on it. It's like Louder Now minus a singer and intelligence.

[crackedthesky]

I did like that allusion, but I like this one, too. Granted, missing out on that chance might be sad for some people, but at least we got the 7 and 18 allusions, right?

Yeah. I'm just happy we still have a thread :D

[Ari Christos]

You care about and expect way too much out of this vinyl release. Can't you just be happy that is was released on vinyl in the first place? Get past all the picayune details and just enjoy the god damn record like everyone else.

Hot damn, boy

[Ari Christos]

It looks to me like you disagree- he said Louder Now and New Again were great albums, and Where You Want to Be was only half-great.
Which I couldn't disagree with more. WYWTB is, in my opinion, the band's only great album. Tell All Your Friends was a good album, and Louder Now and New Again are just boring. New Again probably has the most misleading title imagineable, because there's nothing new at all to be found on it. It's like Louder Now minus a singer and intelligence.

You and I agree completely, except I'd switch around WYWTB and TAYF. I've always felt WYWTB has these soaring high points and then these horrible low points. That's why I agreed with Chris I only like half of WYWTB.

[cshadows2887]

You care about and expect way too much out of this vinyl release. Can't you just be happy that is was released on vinyl in the first place? Get past all the picayune details and just enjoy the god damn record like everyone else.

Vocab FTW.

[cshadows2887]

It looks to me like you disagree- he said Louder Now and New Again were great albums, and Where You Want to Be was only half-great.
Which I couldn't disagree with more. WYWTB is, in my opinion, the band's only great album. Tell All Your Friends was a good album, and Louder Now and New Again are just boring. New Again probably has the most misleading title imagineable, because there's nothing new at all to be found on it. It's like Louder Now minus a singer and intelligence.

Ugh. Just ugh.

[IntoTheSun]

Hot damn, boy

This made me laugh. A lot.

[crackedthesky]

You and I agree completely, except I'd switch around WYWTB and TAYF. I've always felt WYWTB has these soaring high points and then these horrible low points. That's why I agreed with Chris I only like half of WYWTB.

TAYF lacks an overall direction or purpose, I feel. And I like every song on WYWTB, save for The Union. There are a few songs on TAYF I can do without.
I will say this: There's at least one fantastic song on every record they've done. I'm not a huge fan of Louder Now, but My Blue Heaven is just a great song. I really dig Carpathia, but it wouldn't surprise me if that record has an even better song that I just have yet to get into.

[maxvsmaradona]

Vince is fucking pwning.

[crackedthesky]

Ugh. Just ugh.

I like bands who aren't afraid to progress. Basically, I feel like TBS is sort of what would have happened if, say, Brand New made four records that all sounded just like Your Favorite Weapon. It just got old, and it got old fast. There are some high points, some really great ones, but they don't tend to outweigh the low ones.
But if it makes you feel better, TBS is number 7 on my most listened to artists on last.fm :shrug:
I really love the songs I love. The rest, I just don't really care for.

[Ari Christos]

This made me laugh. A lot.

New favorite phrase. The ", boy" adds a bit of a southern charm on thangs

TAYF lacks an overall direction or purpose, I feel. And I like every song on WYWTB, save for The Union. There are a few songs on TAYF I can do without.
I will say this: There's at least one fantastic song on every record they've done. I'm not a huge fan of Louder Now, but My Blue Heaven is just a great song. I really dig Carpathia, but it wouldn't surprise me if that record has an even better song that I just have yet to get into.

New Again had such great potential. Matt Fazzi brought some interesting riffs to the table and has a better voice than Adam right now, and Mark's drumming was his best yet on that record. Oh well. I'll always give the band a shot, despite knowing I'll just set myself up for disappointment.

[vincelac]

Hot damn, boy
Hm?

Vocab FTW.
Bigger words make me sound more condescending.

Vince is fucking pwning.
This is the kind of shit that happens when I play bubble spinner or tetris while listening to Deja.

[Kurt Retenauer]

:highfive:



I agree with the bolded. Louder Now and New Again are so forgettable. I don't hate them as much as everyone else, but they're such watered down rock albums with no lasting value. Adam's vocals get so grating on New Again, too. If he actually opened his mouth when he sang, it wouldn't sad half bad.

I'd place Straylight's self-titled up there with Tell All Your Friends as my favorite record from the Long Island scene. However, from that point forward, Straylight continued to churn out excellent music, whether it be EPs or full lengths. TBS, not the same. Only liked a couple off of Where You Want To Be, and hated both Louder Now and New Again.

Edit: I should mention that, by Long Island scene, I mean BN, TBS, and SLR's first releases. Yes, I'd prefer the SLR self-titled over YFW.

[vincelac]

Oh man I feel like jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge now.
<3

[cshadows2887]

I like bands who aren't afraid to progress. Basically, I feel like TBS is sort of what would have happened if, say, Brand New made four records that all sounded just like Your Favorite Weapon. It just got old, and it got old fast. There are some high points, some really great ones, but they don't tend to outweigh the low ones.
But if it makes you feel better, TBS is number 7 on my most listened to artists on last.fm :shrug:
I really love the songs I love. The rest, I just don't really care for.

See I think there's progression, but not reinvention. They continued to refine their sound and bring new elements to it and his lyrics keep building on what he's done before, but it's not drastic changes like YFW to Deja to TDAG. But refining your sound is still a progression, just a different kind.

I'd place Straylight's self-titled up there with Tell All Your Friends as my favorite record from the Long Island scene. However, from that point forward, Straylight continued to churn out excellent music, whether it be EPs or full lengths. TBS, not the same. Only liked a couple off of Where You Want To Be, and hated both Louder Now and New Again.

Edit: I should mention that, by Long Island scene, I mean BN, TBS, and SLR's first releases. Yes, I'd prefer the SLR self-titled over YFW.

We disagree on things?

[cshadows2887]

One of my best friends just asked if I'd play during the ceremony at his wedding. I don't think I've ever been more honored in my life.

[kbi the crowing]

New favorite phrase. The ", boy" adds a bit of a southern charm on thangs

me and my girlfriend do that all the time
/shifno

I still find myself disappointed that I didn't get what I expected when Tate said Daisy had a ton of layers to it.
/shinfo but on topic

[Ari Christos]

Hm?



Hot damn @ picayune. Steppin up yo lowcab to a vocab

I'd place Straylight's self-titled up there with Tell All Your Friends as my favorite record from the Long Island scene. However, from that point forward, Straylight continued to churn out excellent music, whether it be EPs or full lengths. TBS, not the same. Only liked a couple off of Where You Want To Be, and hated both Louder Now and New Again.

Edit: I should mention that, by Long Island scene, I mean BN, TBS, and SLR's first releases. Yes, I'd prefer the SLR self-titled over YFW.

You and I share the exact same feelings. Mine are more scattered in previous posts on the last couple pages, but this is me entirely. I think we just became best friends.

<3

I shove the puzzle in my pocket but it just doesn't fit, man...

[Kurt Retenauer]

We disagree on things?

I think I have a new sidekick. See below.

Kidding. The Taylor Swift fanboys can never be broken up. Never!


You and I share the exact same feelings. Mine are more scattered in previous posts on the last couple pages, but this is me entirely. I think we just became best friends.

I'm more than okay with that, haha. Self-titled is just excellent, and the EPs are beyond anything TBS's nu-arena rock gimmick could have ever thought of.

[Ari Christos]

me and my girlfriend do that all the time
/shifno

I still find myself disappointed that I didn't get what I expected when Tate said Daisy had a ton of layers to it.
/shinfo but on topic

Me too. Maybe we just suck at hearing?

See I think there's progression, but not reinvention. They continued to refine their sound and bring new elements to it and his lyrics keep building on what he's done before, but it's not drastic changes like YFW to Deja to TDAG. But refining your sound is still a progression, just a different kind.



We disagree on things?

Louder Now and New again have some pretty abhorrent lyrics.

[vincelac]

Hot damn @ picayune. Steppin up yo lowcab to a vocab



You and I share the exact same feelings. Mine are more scattered in previous posts on the last couple pages, but this is me entirely. I think we just became best friends.



I shove the puzzle in my pocket but it just doesn't fit, man...
Haha, I love you more and more everyday.

FB me the link for that video, I need it again

[crackedthesky]

See I think there's progression, but not reinvention. They continued to refine their sound and bring new elements to it and his lyrics keep building on what he's done before, but it's not drastic changes like YFW to Deja to TDAG. But refining your sound is still a progression, just a different kind.



We disagree on things?

That's actually a fantastic way of wording it. Wish I'd thought of it. Saying they haven't progressed at all is misguided word choice. There's definitely a bit of change in sound, especially from TAYF to WYWTB. But after that, it feels like less and less, and what does change doesn't seem very good. But lyrically and thematically, they haven't really changed at all. They're still writing the same songs over and over again, and I think that's what gets to me the most. And then on New Again, it got worse, because instead of being old but clever, I feel like it's just old but dumbed down. The lyrics were consistently clever across their first three albums, but a lot of stuff on New Again just makes me cringe. It makes me wonder if Adam can't really write well alone or with Fazzi (if he writes anything) and that Adam just got lucky to have John and then Fred write alongside him and both bring out the best in him.

[walshknilb281]

becuase they aren't just songs. they're an album, and one the band themselves has consistently said fit together better than they could imagine with the way it turned out in relation to the artwork. jesse himself also said that pressing a record is a chance to do something special with a release and make it even better. why do they need to consistently eat their own words? some of the best linear notes aren't even on the record, instead i have a big white piece of paper that just says "tdagarim"...........i don't care about that, that doesn't make this record special at all.
Their the laziest band around and they know it, get over it and get over yourself

[streetcore]

maybe a silly question, but does the GATDARIM vinyl have new artwork? it said that in a news post when they first announced it.

..or do i have to send jesse lacey 5$ and maybe someday get some new artwork?

[kbi the crowing]

Me too. Maybe we just suck at hearing?

or we had different views on what a lot of layers meant
I was hoping for much more constant noise and little shit in the background
but I haven't listened to the album with headphones in a little while, so iunno

[Ari Christos]

I think I have a new sidekick. See below.

Kidding. The Taylor Swift fanboys can never be broken up. Never!



I'm more than okay with that, haha. Self-titled is just excellent, and the EPs are beyond anything TBS's nu-arena rock gimmick could have ever thought of.

When I saw John Nolan at a solo show, Gabriel The Marine came out and started playing Great Romances and John was a good sport and stuck around and sang (you could tell he hadn't sung it in like 7 years, he forgot a lot of lyrics haha). He sounded better than Adam ever has singing older material.

[streetcore]

oh and btw, the new coheed album=leaked

[xJesusFreakx]

oh and btw, the new coheed album=leaked

...

Posting links to this kinda stuff isn't allowed, so you should probably edit the link out.

[streetcore]

didn't know. edited.

[Ari Christos]

Haha, I love you more and more everyday.

FB me the link for that video, I need it again

On it, compadre!

or we had different views on what a lot of layers meant
I was hoping for much more constant noise and little shit in the background
but I haven't listened to the album with headphones in a little while, so iunno

It's such a loud record that it's hard to hear beneath the distortion for anything else. David pointed out that the riff from Be Gone is played sometime during Sink and I would have never noticed if he didn't say anything, so there might be a lot we're missing.

[Kurt Retenauer]

When I saw John Nolan at a solo show, Gabriel The Marine came out and started playing Great Romances and John was a good sport and stuck around and sang (you could tell he hadn't sung it in like 7 years, he forgot a lot of lyrics haha). He sounded better than Adam ever has singing older material.

Haha that's awesome, man. That's always been the one thing holding me back from ever TRULY loving TBS releases: Adam's voice. It was alright on TAYF, but only because it fit the angsty vibes. But, it's just horrid on the more recent releases IMO.

[kbi the crowing]

It's such a loud record that it's hard to hear beneath the distortion for anything else. David pointed out that the riff from Be Gone is played sometime during Sink and I would have never noticed if he didn't say anything, so there might be a lot we're missing.

this is very true
I'll have to really concentrate and listen to it with headphones sometime soon, hopefully tomorrow

[Kurt Retenauer]

oh and btw, the new coheed album=leaked



I think I see a post worth reporting. And by reporting, I don't mean for lack of topicality, because that seems to be the cool thing to do in BN threads nowadays.

[RuckerPark]

yeah, i pointed out the be gone/ sink riff a while ago. guess people only notice through repetition though.

as lil wayne puts it:

9UYaLjGrgz8&feature=player_embedded

[crackedthesky]

or we had different views on what a lot of layers meant
I was hoping for much more constant noise and little shit in the background
but I haven't listened to the album with headphones in a little while, so iunno

There is definitely a lot going on in the background.

oh and btw, the new coheed album=leaked



Thanks? There are a ton of Coheed fans in here, but this was just way out there, haha.
I don't even remember when the album is supposed to be out, but I'll wait for it. You don't just download tracks, with Coheed. It's a package deal, or you might as well not listen at all. Unless you're the type of person who would go to a movie and keep your eyes closed the whole time.


It's such a loud record that it's hard to hear beneath the distortion for anything else. David pointed out that the riff from Be Gone is played sometime during Sink and I would have never noticed if he didn't say anything, so there might be a lot we're missing.

I agree. And, to be honest, I'm not even sure I hear that riff. I wasn't the first to point it out, and I can kind of make something out, but I'm really not completely sure.

[cshadows2887]

I think I have a new sidekick. See below.

Kidding. The Taylor Swift fanboys can never be broken up. Never!

:beerbros:

Louder Now and New again have some pretty abhorrent lyrics.

That's actually a fantastic way of wording it. Wish I'd thought of it. Saying they haven't progressed at all is misguided word choice. There's definitely a bit of change in sound, especially from TAYF to WYWTB. But after that, it feels like less and less, and what does change doesn't seem very good. But lyrically and thematically, they haven't really changed at all. They're still writing the same songs over and over again, and I think that's what gets to me the most. And then on New Again, it got worse, because instead of being old but clever, I feel like it's just old but dumbed down. The lyrics were consistently clever across their first three albums, but a lot of stuff on New Again just makes me cringe. It makes me wonder if Adam can't really write well alone or with Fazzi (if he writes anything) and that Adam just got lucky to have John and then Fred write alongside him and both bring out the best in him.

I think "Sink Into Me" and "Everything Must Go" have fantastic lyrics. And the one-liers are on par with the rest of his career "When oh when will this sinking feeling feel like "Man, that was ages ago" and "I took full advantage of being taken full advantage of. I took what I could get and eventually it took the place of love" are great. Really only "Lonely, Lonely" is a weak spot.

[crackedthesky]

yeah, i pointed out the be gone/ sink riff a while ago. guess people only notice through repetition though.

as lil wayne puts it:

9UYaLjGrgz8&feature=player_embedded

Didn't mean to steal your thunder, haha.
One of the people who did a pre-release (and pre-leak) review mentioned it, though.

[Kurt Retenauer]

:beerbros:

The beer bros icon will just never get old, haha. But, again, I respectfully decline, as I'm still not of age :-(

[crackedthesky]

:beerbros:





I think "Sink Into Me" and "Everything Must Go" have fantastic lyrics. And the one-liers are on par with the rest of his career "When oh when will this sinking feeling feel like "Man, that was ages ago" and "I took full advantage of being taken full advantage of. I took what I could get and eventually it took the place of love" are great. Really only "Lonely, Lonely" is a weak spot.

"Sharpen your teeth" makes me laugh, haha. I like the chorus, and I really wish that made the song worth sitting through, but it doesn't. Then there was another one that I thought was very bad (might've been Lonely, Lonely; but for some reason I keep thinking Summer, Man or Swing, or something) but of all of the songs I've heard, the only one I was thoroughly impressed with was Carpathia. I've heard great things about Everything Must Go but have yet to hear it. I should LaLa the album and give it a full go. But since I only get one listen, it's hard to find a time when nobody is running around making a bunch of noise, preventing me from giving it a proper listen.

[cshadows2887]

The beer bros icon will just never get old, haha. But, again, I respectfully decline, as I'm still not of age :-(

I didn't have a drink 'til I was 22. It's cool. It can be a metaphorical sharing of a beer.

[Kurt Retenauer]

I didn't have a drink 'til I was 22. It's cool. It can be a metaphorical sharing of a beer.

It can be a root beer, or butter beer Harry Potter ref.

[IntoTheSun]

:beerbros:

UNDERAGE DRINKING, Woooo! Wait what?

[Ari Christos]

Haha that's awesome, man. That's always been the one thing holding me back from ever TRULY loving TBS releases: Adam's voice. It was alright on TAYF, but only because it fit the angsty vibes. But, it's just horrid on the more recent releases IMO.

I swear to God, on Louder Now and New Again he sounds like Kanye West in Through The Wire. It's like his jaw was wired shut, he sings nearly everything while gritting his teeth. I don't get it haha

this is very true
I'll have to really concentrate and listen to it with headphones sometime soon, hopefully tomorrow

I think my headphones just suck, I need to get some new ones. Any reccs?

yeah, i pointed out the be gone/ sink riff a while ago. guess people only notice through repetition though.

as lil wayne puts it:



Oh, my bad dude haha I just remember David saying it more recently.

Oh, and I love that documentary. Wayne is a beast, he never stops.



I agree. And, to be honest, I'm not even sure I hear that riff. I wasn't the first to point it out, and I can kind of make something out, but I'm really not completely sure.

I hear it sometimes, but not every time. I'm wondering how much of it is me just wanting to actually hear it. Either way, I like the distortion drowning everything else out. That loud dynamic works well with those songs.

[cshadows2887]

"Sharpen your teeth" makes me laugh, haha. I like the chorus, and I really wish that made the song worth sitting through, but it doesn't. Then there was another one that I thought was very bad (might've been Lonely, Lonely; but for some reason I keep thinking Summer, Man or Swing, or something) but of all of the songs I've heard, the only one I was thoroughly impressed with was Carpathia. I've heard great things about Everything Must Go but have yet to hear it. I should LaLa the album and give it a full go. But since I only get one listen, it's hard to find a time when nobody is running around making a bunch of noise, preventing me from giving it a proper listen.

"Lonely Lonely" and "Capital M-E" are, for me, the only real weak spots. There's so much more personal detail on this record that I love. A lot of specificity about being in love with a Southern girl and a lot of really concrete descriptions. And I like the idea of someone sharpening their teeth to tear you apart. God knows, most of us have been in a relationship like that at one point or another.

And I hope it's not "Summer, Man" you hated. I love that song. Though there are some personal reasons for that, since it was one of those songs that eerily coincided with my life at the time, so I really connected with it.

[xJesusFreakx]

I think "Sink Into Me" and "Everything Must Go" have fantastic lyrics. And the one-liers are on par with the rest of his career "When oh when will this sinking feeling feel like "Man, that was ages ago" and "I took full advantage of being taken full advantage of. I took what I could get and eventually it took the place of love" are great. Really only "Lonely, Lonely" is a weak spot.

I really liked the verses of that song.

[crackedthesky]

:beerbros:

UNDERAGE DRINKING, Woooo! Wait what?

SoCo Amaretto Lime.








^There. Now we're on topic :D

[RuckerPark]

Didn't mean to steal your thunder, haha.
One of the people who did a pre-release (and pre-leak) review mentioned it, though.

truth. repetition.

[cshadows2887]

It can be a root beer, or butter beer Harry Potter ref.

Liking the Potter references. Thumbs up.

:beerbros:

UNDERAGE DRINKING, Woooo! Wait what?

Oh Andrea. You party girl.

I really liked the verses of that song.

I can see the chorus maybe turning you off based on your religious sensibilites, but I think it's a pretty scathing jab at his ex, who's known to be a Christian. It's effective.

[crackedthesky]

I swear to God, on Louder Now and New Again he sounds like Kanye West in Through The Wire. It's like his jaw was wired shut, he sings nearly everything while gritting his teeth. I don't get it haha



I think my headphones just suck, I need to get some new ones. Any reccs?



Oh, my bad dude haha I just remember David saying it more recently.

Oh, and I love that documentary. Wayne is a beast, he never stops.



I hear it sometimes, but not every time. I'm wondering how much of it is me just wanting to actually hear it. Either way, I like the distortion drowning everything else out. That loud dynamic works well with those songs.

I know what you mean, there.

[RuckerPark]

I swear to God, on Louder Now and New Again he sounds like Kanye West in Through The Wire. It's like his jaw was wired shut, he sings nearly everything while gritting his teeth. I don't get it haha



I think my headphones just suck, I need to get some new ones. Any reccs?



Oh, my bad dude haha I just remember David saying it more recently.

Oh, and I love that documentary. Wayne is a beast, he never stops.



I hear it sometimes, but not every time. I'm wondering how much of it is me just wanting to actually hear it. Either way, I like the distortion drowning everything else out. That loud dynamic works well with those songs.

that doc was crazy. you see that he truly is very insane. but i think he has very high cognitive skills...maybe through repetition.

[crackedthesky]

"Lonely Lonely" and "Capital M-E" are, for me, the only real weak spots. There's so much more personal detail on this record that I love. A lot of specificity about being in love with a Southern girl and a lot of really concrete descriptions. And I like the idea of someone sharpening their teeth to tear you apart. God knows, most of us have been in a relationship like that at one point or another.

And I hope it's not "Summer, Man" you hated. I love that song. Though there are some personal reasons for that, since it was one of those songs that eerily coincided with my life at the time, so I really connected with it.

Not sure if I disliked it, but I'm pretty sure that's one of the ones I've heard, and if so, it didn't make much of an impression :shrug:

[Kurt Retenauer]

:beerbros:

UNDERAGE DRINKING, Woooo! Wait what?

Wooo sorority sista! Alpha Sigma Sigma! w00000t!

I swear to God, on Louder Now and New Again he sounds like Kanye West in Through The Wire. It's like his jaw was wired shut, he sings nearly everything while gritting his teeth. I don't get it haha


Yeah. Adam is just a horrible singer IMO. The music wasn't there for me, either.

[cshadows2887]

Since Tim and I were debating the merits of the Deja and TDAG cover art in another thread, I figured I'd ask, anyone have a take on what the significance of the cover art for YWF or Daisy is? I just think it'd be cool to hear some people's interpretations.

[IntoTheSun]

There doesn't have to be a significance really. Mostly I just think covers are good if they reflect the mood and character of the album. I've always found Deja to be a great representation of the music :shrug:

[xJesusFreakx]

I can see the chorus maybe turning you off based on your religious sensibilites, but I think it's a pretty scathing jab at his ex, who's known to be a Christian. It's effective.

The chorus doesn't turn me off per se. I just don't love it. I really like the scene set by the verses, and the chorus seems to interrupt this a bit too much. Maybe it would have been more effective if the first verse had been instrumental. It's short enough that it wouldn't really take away from the flow (seeing as the intro is somewhat extended anyways), and then the tension would be hinted at without giving it away before the second verse is finished describing the setting. Even so, jumping into, "You quote the 'Good Book' when it's convenient," seems a bit awkward and forced. I have nothing personal against that line, as I've seen my good share of people that fit into this description, but I think it takes away from the overall mood.

[stupidtyonparad]

maybe a silly question, but does the GATDARIM vinyl have new artwork? it said that in a news post when they first announced it.

..or do i have to send jesse lacey 5$ and maybe someday get some new artwork?

no, theres actually a lot LESS artwork on the vinyl version than the cd version. really lame, i was bitching about it a few pages back, you must'a missed it...

Since Tim and I were debating the merits of the Deja and TDAG cover art in another thread, I figured I'd ask, anyone have a take on what the significance of the cover art for YWF or Daisy is? I just think it'd be cool to hear some people's interpretations.


pretty sure there isnt much significance behind either one. band probably just liked the themes. although, the A side of your favorite weapon on vinyl is labeled "the bullet" and the B side is "the chapstick"

[RuckerPark]

wow, i just liked everything must go, this is the first song i've heard off of that TBS album, are any of the other songs good at all? i mean that really shows his vocal versatility.

[Matt Chylak]

wow, i just liked everything must go, this is the first song i've heard off of that TBS album, are any of the other songs good at all? i mean that really shows his vocal versatility.

only good song on that album (except maybe summer, man)

[cshadows2887]

There doesn't have to be a significance really. Mostly I just think covers are good if they reflect the mood and character of the album. I've always found Deja to be a great representation of the music :shrug:

Not saying there has to be a literal significance, so much as asking why people think those covers are godd at, as you said "reflecting the mood" of the record.

[Matt Chylak]

The chorus doesn't turn me off per se. I just don't love it. I really like the scene set by the verses, and the chorus seems to interrupt this a bit too much. Maybe it would have been more effective if the first verse had been instrumental. It's short enough that it wouldn't really take away from the flow (seeing as the intro is somewhat extended anyways), and then the tension would be hinted at without giving it away before the second verse is finished describing the setting. Even so, jumping into, "You quote the 'Good Book' when it's convenient," seems a bit awkward and forced. I have nothing personal against that line, as I've seen my good share of people that fit into this description, but I think it takes away from the overall mood.

i just like the james taylor reference

[cshadows2887]

wow, i just liked everything must go, this is the first song i've heard off of that TBS album, are any of the other songs good at all? i mean that really shows his vocal versatility.

"Sink Into Me" "Summer, Man" and "Where My Mouth Is" are my favs.

[xJesusFreakx]

Since Tim and I were debating the merits of the Deja and TDAG cover art in another thread, I figured I'd ask, anyone have a take on what the significance of the cover art for YWF or Daisy is? I just think it'd be cool to hear some people's interpretations.

The artwork of Your Favorite Weapon annoys me because it's just so... I don't even know. It's simple, but not effectively. It's boring. The chess timer looks goofy, and while a track listing on the front cover isn't necessarily inherently a bad thing, it really doesn't work here. As for the whole chess theme, I see how it fits the theme of the album. Seems a bit silly, but for an album as juvenile as YFW, not sure what else could have been done without being stock (see: bullets and chap stick).

The artwork of Daisy is actually my favorite part. The forest is an obvious reflection of the lyrics, as is the house hiding in the background. I wish I could go into more detail, but Daisy is too sloppy to say much else about. :-d

[Matt Chylak]

Not saying there has to be a literal significance, so much as asking why people think those covers are godd at, as you said "reflecting the mood" of the record.

and they've definitely said that they just picked the art for YFW based on a cool photo that their friend took.

night

[Matt Chylak]

"Sink Into Me" "Summer, Man" and "Where My Mouth Is" are my favs.

oops, one more:
sink into me is a terrible song

NOW goodnight!

[cshadows2887]

The chorus doesn't turn me off per se. I just don't love it. I really like the scene set by the verses, and the chorus seems to interrupt this a bit too much. Maybe it would have been more effective if the first verse had been instrumental. It's short enough that it wouldn't really take away from the flow (seeing as the intro is somewhat extended anyways), and then the tension would be hinted at without giving it away before the second verse is finished describing the setting. Even so, jumping into, "You quote the 'Good Book' when it's convenient," seems a bit awkward and forced. I have nothing personal against that line, as I've seen my good share of people that fit into this description, but I think it takes away from the overall mood.

Hmm. Maybe. I always liked how reality made a crashing intrustion on this scene of what they think domestic bliss should be, which is very material. On another song he says they "ived inside eachother" and were "lazy lovers" which always seemed to me like they had a relationship based on sex and other superficial aspects (like the remodeling of the house) but when it came down to it, they were never that good of a match. I've done a lot of thinking about this album. Haha.

[greenteaallday]

On it, compadre!



It's such a loud record that it's hard to hear beneath the distortion for anything else. David pointed out that the riff from Be Gone is played sometime during Sink and I would have never noticed if he didn't say anything, so there might be a lot we're missing.

Not really layered, but they also play the main riff Vin played on the Untitled Encore they did a few tours ago on Noro.

[RuckerPark]

only good song on that album (except maybe summer, man)

"Sink Into Me" "Summer, Man" and "Where My Mouth Is" are my favs.

thanks, i'll look into these.

while we're recommending things, any movies i should watch? i'm downloading "An Education" and about to watch "Precious"....i have watched all the other oscar nominees for the year for best film....so far, my favorite? A Serious Man.

[greenteaallday]

When I saw John Nolan at a solo show, Gabriel The Marine came out and started playing Great Romances and John was a good sport and stuck around and sang (you could tell he hadn't sung it in like 7 years, he forgot a lot of lyrics haha). He sounded better than Adam ever has singing older material.

Is there a vid of that anywhere?

[cshadows2887]

thanks, i'll look into these.

while we're recommending things, any movies i should watch? i'm downloading "An Education" and about to watch "Precious"....i have watched all the other oscar nominees for the year for best film....so far, my favorite? A Serious Man.

An Education is great. Though A Serious Man was my least fav, so you might disagree.

[RuckerPark]

An Education is great. Though A Serious Man was my least fav, so you might disagree.

just watching it as the modern interp of Job really brought significance to it. i loved it.

[cshadows2887]

just watching it as the modern interp of Job really brought significance to it. i loved it.

I thought it was clever, but the ending was a bit too abrupt for me to really love it. Good movie, but I liked most of the other nom's more. If you liked that though, you are prob going to like (already like) the Coen Brothers.

[xJesusFreakx]

Hmm. Maybe. I always liked how reality made a crashing intrustion on this scene of what they think domestic bliss should be, which is very material. On another song he says they "ived inside eachother" and were "lazy lovers" which always seemed to me like they had a relationship based on sex and other superficial aspects (like the remodeling of the house) but when it came down to it, they were never that good of a match. I've done a lot of thinking about this album. Haha.

This is an interesting point, but the whole "Good Book" reference opens a whole new can of worms thematically, which I think distracts too much from the mood the verses set. This is a point I mentioned when discussing "In a Jar," and I think it's worth considering. In all my art classes, we've always talked about how having two competing focal points can really hurt those two focal points and the piece as a whole (unless this competition for attention is used effectively in the composition), and I think the same applies to song lyrics. One moment I'm thinking about their relationship and this unnamed tension underneath it all, the next I'm thinking about this feud over religion, and the next I'm back in this subtle tension. The bluntness of the chorus just seems to really clash with the verses. Maybe that line could have been effectively incorporated into the song as part of the tension, but it seems too straightforward for the context.

[cinderandsmoke]

Wow, I got in here late. Hello all. New thread already, it seems, haha.


And I can't remember who it was exactly, but someone on here posted on Facebook that Modest Mouse was the best indie band in history...
I'd like to prove you wrong.

zy5ngAiLKvc

[cshadows2887]

This is an interesting point, but the whole "Good Book" reference opens a whole new can of worms thematically, which I think distracts too much from the mood the verses set. This is a point I mentioned when discussing "In a Jar," and I think it's worth considering. In all my art classes, we've always talked about how having two competing focal points can really hurt those two focal points and the piece as a whole (unless this competition for attention is used effectively in the composition), and I think the same applies to song lyrics. One moment I'm thinking about their relationship and this unnamed tension underneath it all, the next I'm thinking about this feud over religion, and the next I'm back in this subtle tension. The bluntness of the chorus just seems to really clash with the verses. Maybe that line could have been effectively incorporated into the song as part of the tension, but it seems too straightforward for the context.

I see where you're coming from, and it's a valid point, it just doesn't impede my enjoyment of the song.

Wow, I got in here late. Hello all. New thread already, it seems, haha.

You came right when everything was starting to get all :tumbleweed: and shit. Welcome!

[cinderandsmoke]

I see where you're coming from, and it's a valid point, it just doesn't impede my enjoyment of the song.



You came right when everything was starting to get all :tumbleweed: and shit. Welcome!

Hahah sweet.
Obviously, we're all starved for conversation.....

[xJesusFreakx]

I see where you're coming from, and it's a valid point, it just doesn't impede my enjoyment of the song.

Ha, never had any such intentions. Just stating how I feel about the song and why. I still like listening to it, though.

[cshadows2887]

Hahah sweet.
Obviously, we're all starved for conversation.....

You're just jealous cause I'm too old to like Brand New and in love with Deja right now

Ha, never had any such intentions. Just stating how I feel about the song and why. I still like listening to it, though.

I wasn't implying you had a dastardly plan. Just that those lyrics didn't but me like they seem to for you. Btw I am REALLY liking The Fauns. The guitars on "Understand" remind me of "Purple Rain" which is a surefire way to my heart.

[xJesusFreakx]

I wasn't implying you had a dastardly plan. Just that those lyrics didn't but me like they seem to for you. Btw I am REALLY liking The Fauns. The guitars on "Understand" remind me of "Purple Rain" which is a surefire way to my heart.

Glad you liked them. I feel like I'm often behind with music, so I'm always glad when I can recommend a band and have someone like 'em.

[cshadows2887]

Glad you liked them. I feel like I'm often behind with music, so I'm always glad when I can recommend a band and have someone like 'em.

I feel like I'm always playing catchup on Ap. All these bands everyone salivates over, I always feel like I've heard 1/3 of them at best. I take so long processing records...

[cinderandsmoke]

You're just jealous cause I'm too old to like Brand New and in love with Deja right now



I wasn't implying you had a dastardly plan. Just that those lyrics didn't but me like they seem to for you. Btw I am REALLY liking The Fauns. The guitars on "Understand" remind me of "Purple Rain" which is a surefire way to my heart.

Shuddup -- there's no age limit to like Brand New. I'll be 75 and still be spinning TDAG haha.

[cshadows2887]

Shuddup -- there's no age limit to like Brand New. I'll be 75 and still be spinning TDAG haha.

In a thread Tim and I were participating in earlier, some kid was trying to tell me (in very poor grammar) that it was pathetic that I still liked Brand New at 23.

[maxvsmaradona]

In a thread Tim and I were participating in earlier, some kid was trying to tell me (in very poor grammar) that it was pathetic that I still liked Brand New at 23.

Right, because Jesse didn't turn 31 last year.

[cshadows2887]

Right, because Jesse didn't turn 31 last year.

Apparently I'm supposed to grow out of "emo" by my age and listen to grown-up shit. Like The Mars Volta. Lol.

[cinderandsmoke]

In a thread Tim and I were participating in earlier, some kid was trying to tell me (in very poor grammar) that it was pathetic that I still liked Brand New at 23.

I assume this kid listens to Justin Bieber and probably works at Hot Topic, too.
Hahah I just love AP.

[cinderandsmoke]

Right, because Jesse didn't turn 31 last year.

Well played.

Apparently I'm supposed to grow out of "emo" by my age and listen to grown-up shit. Like The Mars Volta. Lol.

Lol I'm sure that the members of the Mars Volta are younger than certain members of Brand New.

[cshadows2887]

I assume this kid listens to Justin Bieber and probably works at Hot Topic, too.
Hahah I just love AP.

Nah he applauded someone picking a Mars Volta song 'cause it's better than all the posers picking Brand New songs. Btw I didn't even pick a Brand New song. My favorite song is "Iris."

[maxvsmaradona]

Apparently I'm supposed to grow out of "emo" by my age and listen to grown-up shit. Like The Mars Volta. Lol.

The Mars Volta is awesome, though.

[cinderandsmoke]

Nah he applauded someone picking a Mars Volta song 'cause it's better than all the posers picking Brand New songs. Btw I didn't even pick a Brand New song. My favorite song is "Iris."

That's when I think Brand New's rep on this site works against them. People either love them or think they're completely overrated. And suddenly, declaring a song by them as a favorite turns you into a poser. I'd gladly virtually-fight anyone who thinks the Mars Volta is more mature or "cred-worthy" than Brand New, lol. What bullshit.
But yeah, that's cool that you didn't pick a Brand New song, too. I think "Iris" is one of the only songs that's ever made me cry before, hahah. So at least you made a good choice. :P

[cshadows2887]

The Mars Volta is awesome, though.

I like them. Though their musically masturbatory nature infuriates me. You haved to sit through so much shit to get nuggets of gold. Plus they've only made one truly great record.

That's when I think Brand New's rep on this site works against them. People either love them or think they're completely overrated. And suddenly, declaring a song by them as a favorite turns you into a poser. I'd gladly virtually-fight anyone who thinks the Mars Volta is more mature or "cred-worthy" than Brand New, lol. What bullshit.
But yeah, that's cool that you didn't pick a Brand New song, too. I think "Iris" is one of the only songs that's ever made me cry before, hahah. So at least you made a good choice. :P

Hahaha. Glad you approve. It really changed the way I listen to music. I had never felt that passionate about a song before. Music was just background noise until I heard it. And it still sounds just as amazing after I've heard it hundreds of times.

[cinderandsmoke]

I like them. Though their musically masturbatory nature infuriates me. You haved to sit through so much shit to get nuggets of gold. Plus they've only made one truly great record.



Hahaha. Glad you approve. It really changed the way I listen to music. I had never felt that passionate about a song before. Music was just background noise until I heard it. And it still sounds just as amazing after I've heard it hundreds of times.

Aha. Yeah, its a song that never gets old. I'm definitely no fan of the Goo Goo Dolls, but that songs really strikes a chord with me. With anyone, I think.

[maxvsmaradona]

I like them. Though their musically masturbatory nature infuriates me. You haved to sit through so much shit to get nuggets of gold. Plus they've only made one truly great record.

Which we all know is Frances The Mute.

[cshadows2887]

Aha. Yeah, its a song that never gets old. I'm definitely no fan of the Goo Goo Dolls, but that songs really strikes a chord with me. With anyone, I think.

: (

I think they're a criminally underrated band. Have you heard any of thier old stuff?

Which we all know is Frances The Mute.

Yessir. And they followed it up with one of the most disappointing records in history.

[cinderandsmoke]

: (

I think they're a criminally underrated band. Have you heard any of thier old stuff?



Yessir. And they followed it up with one of the most disappointing records in history.

No, I haven't, actually. I've basically listened to the singles on the radio.

[cshadows2887]

No, I haven't, actually. I've basically listened to the singles on the radio.

They deserve a better listen, imo. Love them to death. Their older stuff is especially good. If you have a minute listen to "Long Way Down" or "Fallin' Down." They were such a good Replacements knock off.

[dejadevilgod]

hey thread.

[kbi the crowing]

I think my headphones just suck, I need to get some new ones. Any reccs?

I have these, they sound pretty nice and aren't hella expensive. Not spectacular but well worth the price.

http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/configable/index/links/id/920/cid/8/

Which we all know is Frances The Mute.

:shake:

pretty sure there isnt much significance behind either one. band probably just liked the themes. although, the A side of your favorite weapon on vinyl is labeled "the bullet" and the B side is "the chapstick"

that's really fucking cool

[maxvsmaradona]

Yessir. And they followed it up with one of the most disappointing records in history.

Fact. Once John Theodore left, the band went downhill.

[KingJohn_654]

Apparently I'm supposed to grow out of "emo" by my age and listen to grown-up shit. Like The Mars Volta. Lol.

haha people still use the word emo?

[xJesusFreakx]

haha people still use the word emo?

Apparently. I thought it fell out of vogue a while ago to be replaced with "hipster" (which is already at or just past its peak), but I guess some people still use it.

[xxemo_kittyxx]

Whaddup new thread.

And by the way, I never said I like Brand New to fit in, in fact to the people around me I'm the chick who listens to "weird music noone really knows about". I like being here because I can discuss my weird likings for once.

[zonto]

Once upon a time I was really involved with the BN street team and got a buttload of points. And once upon another time, I placed an order for an American Apparel slim-fit t-shirt with "Fght ff yr dmns" all over it for free! And once upon the last time, Mark at BN's management office said he'd change it to a grey (or green) one instead of the default indigo color (which I have way too much of in my wardrobe color rainbow.)

Happy.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Which we all know is Frances The Mute.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa t

nah just playin. Deloused is fuckin awesome, Frances is good too, never listened to Amputechture, Bedlam is fuckin awesome, and Octahedron was so mind-numbingly boring. sorry, that record just sucked, but then again seeing how they seem to put out a new one every year, it'll probably be good

[fishguts182]

I have a quick question. I remember a while back reading somewhere that there will be two versions of the devil and god are raging inside me vinyl, one version released from the band and another relsead by a record company. Is this still the case? And if so when does the other version go on sale?

[maxvsmaradona]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa t

nah just playin. Deloused is fuckin awesome, Frances is good too, never listened to Amputechture, Bedlam is fuckin awesome, and Octahedron was so mind-numbingly boring. sorry, that record just sucked, but then again seeing how they seem to put out a new one every year, it'll probably be good

I'm only biased towards Frances because I haven't ever listened to Deloused... lol. Amputechture is reallly good. Bedlam was alright.

[ThisIsNotDan]

I haven't ever listened to Deloused... lol.

change that. immediately. !!!.

[maxvsmaradona]

change that. immediately. !!!.

I will when I get home later tonight. Not in a TMV mood though.

[ThisIsNotDan]

I will when I get home later tonight. Not in a TMV mood though.

haha yeah sometimes it takes a certain mood for me, but I think it successfully combines their more "streamlined" sound with their insane musicianship. not a tough listen, but really engaging

[theguy77]

"you constantly make it impossible to make conversation" would have been a way better dub for this thread.

[kemichels]

Fuckers at Merchdirect cancelled my order of the red TDAGARIM vinyl for no reason, and when I contacted them about it, apparently they "oversold it and are working with the band to figure out something". What the fuck? Get your shit in order for this kind of stuff. They KNEW it was in high demand...you think they'd have a system hashed out for not overselling/not fucking it up.

[ThisIsNotDan]

Fuckers at Merchdirect cancelled my order of the red TDAGARIM vinyl for no reason, and when I contacted them about it, apparently they "oversold it and are working with the band to figure out something". What the fuck? Get your shit in order for this kind of stuff. They KNEW it was in high demand...you think they'd have a system hashed out for not overselling/not fucking it up.

this thing happens with big sales. I got a Blacklisted T-Shirt when Deathwish was having a big sale, and even though they placed my order, they had oversold it.

[kemichels]

this thing happens with big sales. I got a Blacklisted T-Shirt when Deathwish was having a big sale, and even though they placed my order, they had oversold it.
I'm just hoping they work something out to appease people who were screwed over. I understand that it happens with big sales, but this whole vinyl sale seemed incredibly rushed and on the spot. They should've waited a couple days and made sure they got their shit in order so this didn't happen :shrug:

/I'm just pissed off, lol

[xxemo_kittyxx]

Once upon a time I was really involved with the BN street team and got a buttload of points. And once upon another time, I placed an order for an American Apparel slim-fit t-shirt with "Fght ff yr dmns" all over it for free! And once upon the last time, Mark at BN's management office said he'd change it to a grey (or green) one instead of the default indigo color (which I have way too much of in my wardrobe color rainbow.)

Happy.
I'm a little bit short for that shirt. Dammmmn. But I have enough for a lion one, do you think I should get that or wait until some new orders come up? Will there even be any new orders soon anyway?

[julietelizabeth]

I'm a little bit short for that shirt. Dammmmn. But I have enough for a lion one, do you think I should get that or wait until some new orders come up? Will there even be any new orders soon anyway?

Got so excited when you said lion (because I love lions), but then I looked at it and didn't like it. Dammnnn.
On a similarly frustrating note, I ordered Deja on CD on like, the 6th March and I'm prettttyyy sure it's lost in the post.

[zonto]

I think my headphones just suck, I need to get some new ones. Any reccs?

What's your budget and preference for style (in-ear, bud, true headphone, etc...)?

[zonto]

I'm a little bit short for that shirt. Dammmmn. But I have enough for a lion one, do you think I should get that or wait until some new orders come up? Will there even be any new orders soon anyway?

Depends on what you like. I prefer the one I got to the lions, but I don't foresee any orders coming soon. Send the team leader an email and ask?

[kyle is hk]

I think my headphones just suck, I need to get some new ones. Any reccs?
.



Im veryyyyy picking with headphone quality, I can't use crappy ones. I recommend the V-MODA Bass Freq Earbuds. The base sounds amazing, and usually with earbuds you get no bass. I looovvvveee them. They have them at radioshack they were 40 when I got them but may be as low as 20 these days. I recommend getting the 1 yr warranty too. I break my headphones like every 3 months and they get replaced free every time, for only 6 dollars a year.

[zonto]

I would classify the Vmoda as "crappy" simply because they focus on the bass and made an entire line based on that.

When it comes right down to it, you aren't going to get "good" bass response from headphones because the drivers are so small. And especially for rock where the mids are the most important aspect of the music, it seems counter-intuitive.

[cshadows2887]

haha people still use the word emo?

Iknorite?

[kyle is hk]

I would classify the Vmoda as "crappy" simply because they focus on the bass and made an entire line based on that.

When it comes right down to it, you aren't going to get "good" bass response from headphones because the drivers are so small. And especially for rock where the mids are the most important aspect of the music, it seems counter-intuitive.


Too each his own, but in my experience of the probably dozen different brands I've gone through they're the best you're gonna get for under 50. Also I don't listen to exclusively rock music so the Bass does wonders for other genres. Plus if you don't like the effect you can change the equalizer whichever songs you'd like on itunes.

[WhitestKidUKnow]

Taco Bell Tuesday!

[zonto]

Too each his own, but in my experience of the probably dozen different brands I've gone through they're the best you're gonna get for under 50. Also I don't listen to exclusively rock music so the Bass does wonders for other genres. Plus if you don't like the effect you can change the equalizer whichever songs you'd like on itunes.

If I were to set a $50 cap, I would buy either:

Head-Direct RE2 (http://head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=23) - I bought these as my first non-Skull Candy headphones for $80 and they are on clearance for $30 now. Great clarity and an awesome midrange. These sounded great with "Rock," especially when plugged into your player through a FiiO e3 or e5 headphone amp.

Etymotic ER6i (http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Isolator-Earphones-White/dp/B0002ZW5W4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=fiona-hardware&qid=1268771409&sr=8-2) - A little over budget, but not if you buy used. These are the little brothers of the earphones I use now (the ER4P)

Altec Lansing UHP336 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Q7IA5E/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPD KIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=00NEJXVX4MDKJ3DEZW5E&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846) - For those with normal/bigger ear canals, these are a good choice. They are basically Ultimate Ears Super.fi 3s and are great for the price ($90 off!) I've owned the big brothers of this earphone, the UE Triple.fi10 Pro, and enjoyed them very much.

Yuin PK3 (http://head-direct.com/products.php?p=5) - Heard great things about these for being budget ear buds. I prefer noise cancellation like in the models shown above, but if you have sensitive ears these might be the ticket.

[zonto]

Taco Bell Tuesday!

No thanks! I've already had diarrhea.

[RedoReality]

Fuckers at Merchdirect cancelled my order of the red TDAGARIM vinyl for no reason, and when I contacted them about it, apparently they "oversold it and are working with the band to figure out something". What the fuck? Get your shit in order for this kind of stuff. They KNEW it was in high demand...you think they'd have a system hashed out for not overselling/not fucking it up.

They probably should have limited the amount one person could buy too, there's already a bunch on Ebay people are trying to sell for between 60 and 140 dollars, which is bullshit if real fans who bought a copy got their orders canceled.

[El_Jeffe]

Alright, so in that funny artwork thread we had a couple days ago, I mentioned this:

http://a1.vox.com/6a00d41433eae13c7f01101686b371860c-500pi

Which some people stressed they enjoyed, so I thought I'd respond in here. I'm not hating, regardless of how much you all enjoy the music on this album, I'm merely referring to just the album art from a discussion point. How can this be great artwork? Members were suggesting it captures the vibe of the album etc? Really?... I think this is poor artwork & it's more of a case of people overanalyzing it for the want for a "deeper meaning" that just isn't there. I also think, had any other band released such artwork it would be forever taunted as being ridiculous. Thoughts? (& hey each to their own, I guess I was just shocked to find that people enjoyed that album cover, when I thought it was unanimously agreed that it wasn't... the best haha)

[zonto]

I find the juxtaposition of Halloween motifs in this post-modern album art fully captures the essence of being a battery and simultaneously burying your friends under your crops during the winter.

Cheers!

[fishguts182]

Alright, so in that funny artwork thread we had a couple days ago, I mentioned this:

http://a1.vox.com/6a00d41433eae13c7f01101686b371860c-500pi

Which some people stressed they enjoyed, so I thought I'd respond in here. I'm not hating, regardless of how much you all enjoy the music on this album, I'm merely referring to just the album art from a discussion point. How can this be great artwork? Members were suggesting it captures the vibe of the album etc? Really?... I think this is poor artwork & it's more of a case of people overanalyzing it for the want for a "deeper meaning" that just isn't there. I also think, had any other band released such artwork it would be forever taunted as being ridiculous. Thoughts? (& hey each to their own, I guess I was just shocked to find that people enjoyed that album cover, when I thought it was unanimously agreed that it wasn't... the best haha)

me and my friend were talking about this artwork this past weekend and it turned into an hour long discussion. We both felt as if there was not really any meaning behind the artwork but I dont think the artwork is bad. I think the artwork was chosen because it catches attention. I dont know if any members of Brand New have stated a reason why this artwork was chosen though.

[RedoReality]

What's ridiculous about it? I mean as far as an album cover goes. Its not like Brand New is the first band to use a weird picture for an album cover.

[El_Jeffe]

me and my friend were talking about this artwork this past weekend and it turned into an hour long discussion. We both felt as if there was not really any meaning behind the artwork but I dont think the artwork is bad. I think the artwork was chosen because it catches attention. I dont know if any members of Brand New have stated a reason why this artwork was chosen though.

Hmm an attention grabber... could be right. I personally have no idea, I don't even listen to the band. I was just a little shocked to hear people claim such introspection from said cover. But each to their own, just wanted to hear some of your guys thoughts.

What's ridiculous about it? I mean as far as an album cover goes. Its not like Brand New is the first band to use a weird picture for an album cover.

To me it's just cheap, poorly executed, humorless, & irrelevant. I don't mean to come across so strong mate, it's just that for a band that people consider there to be such depth to, this is a pretty wasteful album cover. Which is fine, an album cover doesn't have to contain a collage of visual metaphors haha. I just wasn't aware many people had strong affection for it & it's "deeper" meaning.

[kbi the crowing]

I like how much sense it doesn't make and that it's easy to recognize.

[KingJohn_654]

Alright, so in that funny artwork thread we had a couple days ago, I mentioned this:

http://a1.vox.com/6a00d41433eae13c7f01101686b371860c-500pi

Which some people stressed they enjoyed, so I thought I'd respond in here. I'm not hating, regardless of how much you all enjoy the music on this album, I'm merely referring to just the album art from a discussion point. How can this be great artwork? Members were suggesting it captures the vibe of the album etc? Really?... I think this is poor artwork & it's more of a case of people overanalyzing it for the want for a "deeper meaning" that just isn't there. I also think, had any other band released such artwork it would be forever taunted as being ridiculous. Thoughts? (& hey each to their own, I guess I was just shocked to find that people enjoyed that album cover, when I thought it was unanimously agreed that it wasn't... the best haha)

the band is really against mormon missionaries, the album art expresses that perfectly.

[cshadows2887]

I think the biggest point behind that abum cover was to make it clear to everyone that they were now an indie band who wanted to be taken seriously as something more than "emo." And what says "put me on a year-end list" like really ugly album artwork?

[evvandflow]

if i saw that picture randomly, id laugh. but attached to a set of songs....i have different feelings entirely

[xJesusFreakx]

To be honest, I really don't see anything ridiculous about the album besides the spotted slippers, which are subtle enough to not take away from the overall image. (One could even argue that the slippers help set the mood of the cover as a standalone work, but they're a bit too playful to fit the rather somber vibe of the album.) This was the first album I bought of the band's, and even before opening the case to listen to the CD, I thought it was a cool cover.

There's not much color, and the house looks rather decrepit. The branches, color scheme, and ground also have a very autumn-y vibe, at least for me, which is a fitting setting for the dark nature of the album. The wicked characters are conversing rather casually, and even the girl, while certainly not comfortable with this setting, isn't overwhelmed with any sort of extraordinary emotions; this looks like a normal situation, but it's not a rational norm. Actually, the child, if anything, looks bored, which implies that these characters are discussing things that are over her head, but at the same time, the topic is likely pertinent to the girl's life.

This isn't a literal depiction of the album's title, as neither character resembles G-d, and they're not exactly "raging," but it does communicate the same kind of ideas that the title does, which I like. Both imply that supernatural circumstances are determining situations in the lives of ordinary people. This theme appears a few times in the album's lyrics; you have "the demon in the attic to the left" in "Degausser," and also, of course, the whole song "Jesus Christ." The little girl also appears in the song "Limousine" (and arguably in all the other references to a girl/woman).

[zonto]

the band is really against mormon missionaries, the album art expresses that perfectly.

We should teach the band the new PMG discussions. It would clear up so many of their unanswered, soul-searching questions.

[kyle is hk]

I'm not the biggest fan of the TDAG artwork, even though its by far my favorite album of all time. I think it fits really well with the tone of the album, but Its just an unpleasant picture. I hate when people wanna see my favorite album and I show them that weird picture. I LOVE the Daisy cover though, Deja is pretty neat.

I know I'm in the clear minority on this, but I hate when there's no band name or title on the cover (as it is on TDAG.) Just a personal pet peeve.

[WhitestKidUKnow]

kyle is hk, I thought you had more posts.

[RedoReality]

\
To me it's just cheap, poorly executed, humorless, & irrelevant. I don't mean to come across so strong mate, it's just that for a band that people consider there to be such depth to, this is a pretty wasteful album cover. Which is fine, an album cover doesn't have to contain a collage of visual metaphors haha. I just wasn't aware many people had strong affection for it & it's "deeper" meaning.

Well I disagree with the part about it being cheap and poorly executed, but yeah I don't think it has any real deeper meaning to it, they probably picked it because they thought it was a cool picture and fit the music.

[fishguts182]

I like how much sense it doesn't make and that it's easy to recognize.


exactly. Before I even knew who brand new was I would always see this cover while browsing through cds at best buy and back then the cover was so bizare and mysterious and stuck out. Whatever the story behind the cover it works because so many people now recongnize this voer even if they do not listen to brand new.

[xJesusFreakx]

I'm not the biggest fan of the TDAG artwork, even though its by far my favorite album of all time. I think it fits really well with the tone of the album, but Its just an unpleasant picture. I hate when people wanna see my favorite album and I show them that weird picture. I LOVE the Daisy cover though, Deja is pretty neat.

I know I'm in the clear minority on this, but I hate when there's no band name or title on the cover (as it is on TDAG.) Just a personal pet peeve.

:-0

I have nothing against cover art with a name on it, but there's something cool about a cover without it. The image just tends to feel more like a work of art, able to stand on its own successful.

[El_Jeffe]

To be honest, I really don't see anything ridiculous about the album besides the spotted slippers, which are subtle enough to not take away from the overall image. (One could even argue that the slippers help set the mood of the cover as a standalone work, but they're a bit too playful to fit the rather somber vibe of the album.) This was the first album I bought of the band's, and even before opening the case to listen to the CD, I thought it was a cool cover.

There's not much color, and the house looks rather decrepit. The branches, color scheme, and ground also have a very autumn-y vibe, at least for me, which is a fitting setting for the dark nature of the album. The wicked characters are conversing rather casually, and even the girl, while certainly not comfortable with this setting, isn't overwhelmed with any sort of extraordinary emotions; this looks like a normal situation, but it's not a rational norm. Actually, the child, if anything, looks bored, which implies that these characters are discussing things that are over her head, but at the same time, the topic is likely pertinent to the girl's life.

This isn't a literal depiction of the album's title, as neither character resembles G-d, and they're not exactly "raging," but it does communicate the same kind of ideas that the title does, which I like. Both imply that supernatural circumstances are determining situations in the lives of ordinary people. This theme appears a few times in the album's lyrics; you have "the demon in the attic to the left" in "Degausser," and also, of course, the whole song "Jesus Christ." The little girl also appears in the song "Limousine" (and arguably in all the other references to a girl/woman).

Fair enough. While I'm not a fan of the band, I have given this album a few listens through. At times I understand your thematic perception & how it may possibly relate to the music, but at times I'm also leaning towards over analysis... The bolded paragraph makes some great points, & perhaps you are on to something I certainly didn't pick on on in an entirely complete sense. I still feel the photo is pretty poorly executed however. The image seems cheap & tacky, & probably would of been bested with an drawn/painted/etc illustration rather than that photo.

I know you're all a passionate bunch, & I'm not here to hate for the sake of hating. Curiosity just got the better of me haha, as I previously thought that even Brand New fans didn't enjoy that particular cover.

[fishguts182]

I know I'm in the clear minority on this, but I hate when there's no band name or title on the cover (as it is on TDAG.) Just a personal pet peeve.


I was like that when I first picked up TDAG cd but after a while I got use to it not having the band or album name on it. Looking at the cover now I could not imagine the artwork having the album or band name on it, the artwork stands and speaks for itself imo.

[xJesusFreakx]

Fair enough. While I'm not a fan of the band, I have given this album a few listens through. At times I understand your thematic perception & how it may possibly relate to the music, but at times I'm also leaning towards over analysis... The bolded paragraph makes some great points, & perhaps you are on to something I certainly didn't pick on on in an entirely complete sense. I still feel the photo is pretty poorly executed however. The image seems cheap & tacky, & probably would of been bested with an drawn/painted/etc illustration rather than that photo.

I know you're all a passionate bunch, & I'm not here to hate for the sake of hating. Curiosity just got the better of me haha, as I previously thought that even Brand New fans didn't enjoy that particular cover.

I see what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure this cover was actually a photograph in a series that was in an art show, so while this alone isn't reason enough to assume it has a deeper meaning (my art professor has shown me some pretty ridiculous stuff, lol), I think it's safe to assume that a deeper meaning is more likely than the work being completely arbitrary. Even if it is arbitrary, though, appreciation and interpretation needn't take intentions into consideration, unless you personally want them to. I find it be a rather interesting and successful photograph.

Ha, I know you're just discussing this with us, not being a troll or whatever. I'm surprised so many people don't like it, especially with all the love the art of Deja Entendu gets. I've always thought that album had a pretty standard and forgettable pop/alternative rock cover.

[kbi the crowing]

I see what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure this cover was actually a photograph in a series that was in an art show, so while this alone isn't reason enough to assume it has a deeper meaning (my art professor has shown me some pretty ridiculous stuff, lol), I think it's safe to assume that a deeper meaning is more likely than the work being completely arbitrary.

you're correct about that

[xJesusFreakx]

you're correct about that

Thought so but didn't want to definitively say so without confirmation, lol. Thank you.

[DeusExMachina]

Alright, so in that funny artwork thread we had a couple days ago, I mentioned this:



Which some people stressed they enjoyed, so I thought I'd respond in here. I'm not hating, regardless of how much you all enjoy the music on this album, I'm merely referring to just the album art from a discussion point. How can this be great artwork? Members were suggesting it captures the vibe of the album etc? Really?... I think this is poor artwork & it's more of a case of people overanalyzing it for the want for a "deeper meaning" that just isn't there. I also think, had any other band released such artwork it would be forever taunted as being ridiculous. Thoughts? (& hey each to their own, I guess I was just shocked to find that people enjoyed that album cover, when I thought it was unanimously agreed that it wasn't... the best haha)
* took off photo as not to take up space.

A while ago, I was look at my older brother's cds, I saw this one, and said "Haha, that's pretty cool." At that time I had no idea who Brand New was, nor did I listen to any music similiar to them. Something about it I found attractive, all though I don't know what. I think they may of just wanted it to look cool. Another idea I have is that it is related to the song "Limousine", which even if it was not Brand New's intention, is easy to understand. Limousine tells of a tragic (and true) story of a 7 year old girl getting be-headed in a car accident caused by a drunk driver. The artwork shows a young girl and what looks like two guys wearing grim reaper costumes. Makes sense to me at least.

[re7ard1337]

is the swirl actually noticeable?

not really, it just looks like i held it with dirty hands and smeared some dirt on it.

[stupidtyonparad]

Alright, so in that funny artwork thread we had a couple days ago, I mentioned this:

http://a1.vox.com/6a00d41433eae13c7f01101686b371860c-500pi

Which some people stressed they enjoyed, so I thought I'd respond in here. I'm not hating, regardless of how much you all enjoy the music on this album, I'm merely referring to just the album art from a discussion point. How can this be great artwork? Members were suggesting it captures the vibe of the album etc? Really?... I think this is poor artwork & it's more of a case of people overanalyzing it for the want for a "deeper meaning" that just isn't there. I also think, had any other band released such artwork it would be forever taunted as being ridiculous. Thoughts? (& hey each to their own, I guess I was just shocked to find that people enjoyed that album cover, when I thought it was unanimously agreed that it wasn't... the best haha)


well you sir, are wrong. this art fits perfectly, and yes, the fans of brand new are very very often guilty of over-analyzing and wanting a "deeper meaning" from the band, but this album, and this artwork is one situation where they aren't over analyzing. the band picked it on purpose, and it fits perfectly

[neo506]

The slippers are what always gets me :-d

[bs022]

I was like that when I first picked up TDAG cd but after a while I got use to it not having the band or album name on it. Looking at the cover now I could not imagine the artwork having the album or band name on it, the artwork stands and speaks for itself imo.

That's how I feel also. I wish Daisy didn't have the band/album name on it either.

[Burn That Shit]

well you sir, are wrong. this art fits perfectly, and yes, the fans of brand new are very very often guilty of over-analyzing and wanting a "deeper meaning" from the band, but this album, and this artwork is one situation where they aren't over analyzing. the band picked it on purpose, and it fits perfectly

well then what is the purpose and how does it fit it perfectly

[j-dogg_69]

I don't tend to analyse the meaning behind artwork, but with TDAG the little girl defenitly refers to Limosine and that whole story, and as mentioned earlier, the decrepit building could suggest the 'raging' part of the album name?

either way, Deja is my favourite artwork of all time. It's the colours, they're just so vivid and bright and fantastic

[kbi the crowing]

not really, it just looks like i held it with dirty hands and smeared some dirt on it.

that's disappointing

[Chris92]

Another idea I have is that it is related to the song "Limousine", which even if it was not Brand New's intention, is easy to understand. Limousine tells of a tragic (and true) story of a 7 year old girl getting be-headed in a car accident caused by a drunk driver. The artwork shows a young girl and what looks like two guys wearing grim reaper costumes. Makes sense to me at least.
I have always kinda thought this.
The whole "Halloween"-ish theme in the art also just seems to mesh somehow with the album's content.
It works perfectly for some inexplicable reason, in my opinion.

Oh yeah...and dig the new thread title.

[kbi the crowing]

.

.

So I listened to Daisy with headphones tonight & I did hear some little tiny things that I haven't consciously, but to hear them you have to concentrate. The little extra is lost so easily in how loud the main guitar parts and vocals and everything which almost ruins it for me. I like when those little extra sounds are loud enough to hear on speakers and you can hear it and be like "fuck yeah, I know that shit." I've never had that happened with those little extra parts on this album.

But again, it was meant to be a loud record and not focus as much on that, but it's still a slight disappointment.

[maxvsmaradona]

Weather or not someone thinks that TDAG artowrk isn't fitting, I still think it's a piece of art, and it's very cool.

[evvandflow]

do people not know the difference between marble and swirl?

[SophGod]

Alright, so in that funny artwork thread we had a couple days ago, I mentioned this:

http://a1.vox.com/6a00d41433eae13c7f01101686b371860c-500pi

Which some people stressed they enjoyed, so I thought I'd respond in here. I'm not hating, regardless of how much you all enjoy the music on this album, I'm merely referring to just the album art from a discussion point. How can this be great artwork? Members were suggesting it captures the vibe of the album etc? Really?... I think this is poor artwork & it's more of a case of people overanalyzing it for the want for a "deeper meaning" that just isn't there. I also think, had any other band released such artwork it would be forever taunted as being ridiculous. Thoughts? (& hey each to their own, I guess I was just shocked to find that people enjoyed that album cover, when I thought it was unanimously agreed that it wasn't... the best haha)

I honestly couldn't care less if you think the art work is fitting or if it's good, that's totaly opinion. But that art is in no way shape or form funny, which is what the thread was about, funny album
covers.

[cshadows2887]

I honestly couldn't care less if you think the art work is fitting or if it's good, that's totaly opinion. But that art is in no way shape or form funny, which is what the thread was about, funny album
covers.

Be fair. The slippers are funny.

[evvandflow]

if you saw this picture and didnt know what it was... the person in an overcoat and mask wearing those slippers is funny.

[Kurt Retenauer]

I don't really know the symbolism (if there is any/anyone knows of it) behind TDAG's album cover.

[Chris92]

Does anyone know who the dude playing guitar is on the inside of TDAG to the left?
Been wondering that for a while meaning to ask. Talking about the cd version obviously...

[stupidtyonparad]

mike sapone.

[xJesusFreakx]

I don't really know the symbolism (if there is any/anyone knows of it) behind TDAG's album cover.

See:
To be honest, I really don't see anything ridiculous about the album besides the spotted slippers, which are subtle enough to not take away from the overall image. (One could even argue that the slippers help set the mood of the cover as a standalone work, but they're a bit too playful to fit the rather somber vibe of the album.) This was the first album I bought of the band's, and even before opening the case to listen to the CD, I thought it was a cool cover.

There's not much color, and the house looks rather decrepit. The branches, color scheme, and ground also have a very autumn-y vibe, at least for me, which is a fitting setting for the dark nature of the album. The wicked characters are conversing rather casually, and even the girl, while certainly not comfortable with this setting, isn't overwhelmed with any sort of extraordinary emotions; this looks like a normal situation, but it's not a rational norm. Actually, the child, if anything, looks bored, which implies that these characters are discussing things that are over her head, but at the same time, the topic is likely pertinent to the girl's life.

This isn't a literal depiction of the album's title, as neither character resembles G-d, and they're not exactly "raging," but it does communicate the same kind of ideas that the title does, which I like. Both imply that supernatural circumstances are determining situations in the lives of ordinary people. This theme appears a few times in the album's lyrics; you have "the demon in the attic to the left" in "Degausser," and also, of course, the whole song "Jesus Christ." The little girl also appears in the song "Limousine" (and arguably in all the other references to a girl/woman).

[Kurt Retenauer]

See:

Your own interpretation? Or mixed with confirmed details?

Either way, nice interpretation. I've just never given it much thought.

[JackStone]

Be fair. The slippers are funny.
I can't believe I didn't notice them until now

[xJesusFreakx]

Your own interpretation? Or mixed with confirmed details?

Either way, nice interpretation. I've just never given it much thought.

Oh, my own. Very much so. The very nature of artistic appreciation and interpretation implies that it's mine, which may or may not match up with the band's thoughts.

[Kurt Retenauer]

Oh, my own. Very much so. The very nature of artistic appreciation and interpretation implies that it's mine, which may or may not match up with the band's thoughts.

I've always taken the art as so. Kind of art that is "take what you will from it."

[xJesusFreakx]

I've always taken the art as so. Kind of art that is "take what you will from it."

Pretty much. I mean, you can't just make up something completely absurd as an interpretation and be taken seriously, but as long as you can intelligently explain your interpretation and what it's based off of, it's not "wrong."

[IntoTheSun]

After some thought, I can't really come up with a reason why anyone would think the album cover is "bad" or "ugly" as the thought has never crossed my mind. I can see how it fits with the music and the artistic appeal and that's that. Doesn't make sense to analyze it too much either way because it all comes down to personal impressions.

[Chris92]

mike sapone.
Thanks. That's what I suspected...