Angels and Airwaves - Love

[TheVsed]

did a search and only found reviews, no threads. what did u guys think of the new album? i know theres alot of AVA hate here.. yada yada i hate tom and this band is rubbish. but i like em

i really liked their song young london. i dont know if thats there single/ catchy #3 slot song or not.
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[Stavie Steelo]

Flight of Apollo is my favorite of that CD.

[TheVsed]

yeah ill have to look into that. i just got a ton of new music and havent given it a fair listen

[x1onexwo1fx]

it's good that you did a search, and i applaud you for that, but i still think you could've asked this in the official ava thread instead of making a new thread, unless it's like completely dead or something, i wouldn't know. some people on here are anal about threads like these that aren't completely necessary.

[TheVsed]

eh yeah. who wants to sift through 20 pages of text and spam that isnt even on topic anymore.... rather have small threads that die quick

i listened to the flight of apollo. the transition it sets up into young london is wicked sexy. i really liked the echoey intro and bridge, although it def could have been shortened. i mean the song is repetitive and sounds like a lot of their other songs... but hey, no one every criticizes Blink for doing that.

[Candy654]

eh yeah. who wants to sift through 20 pages of text and spam that isnt even on topic anymore.... rather have small threads that die quick

i listened to the flight of apollo. the transition it sets up into young london is wicked sexy. i really liked the echoey intro and bridge, although it def could have been shortened. i mean the song is repetitive and sounds like a lot of their other songs... but hey, no one every criticizes Blink for doing that.

Well put.

[Stavie Steelo]

The one thing that annoys me is the long instrumentals at the end of the songs. Maybe it is because I am used to them at the beginning so it is weird at the end.

[Farva2]

Its good but not as good as we dont need to whisper or i empire, i dont really know why i...not quite as catchy maybe?

[Jordie-182]

I personally really like it, I think my favourite so far is Letters To God Part II, I just love that intro guitar riff. I also like Epic Holiday and Young London, but the whole record is solid.

It's not a massive step away from what they have done previously; but then, by the same token, I don't hear anything else that sounds really remotely like their music. People say its repetitive, so are many other bands.

I say, if it's not broken, don't fix it.

[roche]

I personally really like it, I think my favourite so far is Letters To God Part II, I just love that intro guitar riff. I also like Epic Holiday and Young London, but the whole record is solid.

It's not a massive step away from what they have done previously; but then, by the same token, I don't hear anything else that sounds really remotely like their music. People say its repetitive, so are many other bands.

I say, if it's not broken, don't fix it.


I love Letters From God Part II, best work they have ever done.

[Macbeth.]

First half of the record is amazing, second half falls a bit short.

[zack-182]

I love Letters From God Part II, best work they have ever done.

oof, i strongly disagree with that

[Jasper112]

I love Letters From God Part II, best work they have ever done.

I totally disagree, and its letter TO god part II, unless Tom has gone completely schizo by now (in which case it would be "from god")...he does have a song called Hallucinations...and he does believe in aliens....hmm
Ah well, could work either way ;).

But i was expecting it to be more like the original. It doesn't sound ANYTHING like the boxcar song :(.

[Nettn07]

I totally disagree, and its letter TO god part II, unless Tom has gone completely schizo by now (in which case it would be "from god")...he does have a song called Hallucinations...and he does believe in aliens....hmm
Ah well, could work either way ;).

But i was expecting it to be more like the original. It doesn't sound ANYTHING like the boxcar song :(.

did you really expect it to be like the original? AVA doesn't sound like BCR so to expect that song to sound like BCR is just wrong. Especially with the direction AVA took on their previous record.

[Yellowcard2006]

Love the album. A few songs at the end are kinda boring but Shove/Young London/Epic Holiday make up for it. Another great AVA album.

[codhoppers]

I'm impressed that the free release process is working so well. It's the first step towards the whole "modlife" music generation.

As for the music, it all sounds pretty much the same, very similar guitar riffs and Tom's voice sounds very whinny.

Its not blink, or even boxcar for that matter but its still something to listen to

[bamamitch]

i like the first 3 songs (discounting the intro track) and the last two. the rest of it just bores me. everything seems to run together.

[Nettn07]

I'm glad Modlife is working out for them. I'm a premium member myself and I look forward to when they do live streams of concerts, seeing as I probably wont be able to see them live. Especially if I'm not moving to Cardiff this summer..
I think LOVE could have been so, so, so much better if they just put a bit more effort into it or hired a pro producer. The melody lines in most of the songs seems recycled along with the guitar riffs, and it gets boring.. I like the album though, I just think it could have been much better, cause it has alot of potential.

[Paulb-182]

That has been the complete problem with AVA from the start. They need a producer. Although still, I do like this album.

[Nettn07]

That has been the complete problem with AVA from the start. They need a producer. Although still, I do like this album.

yes. I guess Tom is just too stubborn and wants to do everything himself. With this album I understand that they didn't have a producer cause they were paying for everything themselves, but on the previous two records they were on a major label who would have paid for it.

[xohalezz]

Flight of Apollo is my favorite of that CD.

This song is excellent.

[Paulb-182]

yes. I guess Tom is just too stubborn and wants to do everything himself. With this album I understand that they didn't have a producer cause they were paying for everything themselves, but on the previous two records they were on a major label who would have paid for it.

I can understand perfectionism, but you need to understand when you need an outside ear to hear it and say how about this as well/instead? It's what can push a good song to a great one half the time. Exactly, I wouldn't ever put out an album without a producer if my band were indeed big enough to put out albums on a major label.

[Nettn07]

I can understand perfectionism, but you need to understand when you need an outside ear to hear it and say how about this as well/instead? It's what can push a good song to a great one half the time. Exactly, I wouldn't ever put out an album without a producer if my band were indeed big enough to put out albums on a major label.

true. I would never go into the studio without a producer either (on a major label of course). "Love" could definitely use a pro producers ears. Too bad Tom can't see that. Just imagine how fucking incredible "Love" could have been with a great producer who understand the whole AVA thing. So awesome. But then, there's the money.. haha

[bobcatbob18]

I personally really like it, I think my favourite so far is Letters To God Part II, I just love that intro guitar riff. I also like Epic Holiday and Young London, but the whole record is solid.

It's not a massive step away from what they have done previously; but then, by the same token, I don't hear anything else that sounds really remotely like their music. People say its repetitive, so are many other bands.

I say, if it's not broken, don't fix it.

Completely agree, especially about the Letters to God riff. Listening to it makes me think of the LOVE movie trailer when the song kicks in with the guy on the motorcycle. Looks breathtaking.

[Jasper112]

did you really expect it to be like the original? AVA doesn't sound like BCR so to expect that song to sound like BCR is just wrong. Especially with the direction AVA took on their previous record.

Cant blame a guy for hoping :(

[Nettn07]

Cant blame a guy for hoping :(

sure not. you were probably a bit too optimistic.. :p I like the song though.

[Hagysaurus Rex]

Better than I hoped and I listened to it a lot more than I thought I would.

The music, songwriting, instrumentation was really good (especially on the first half of the album) but I still can't get past Tom's voice to listen to a lot of AVA. IMHO, he just doesn't have the pipes to carry this type of sound.

[BigG1392]

Shove and Young London are great. The rest is just good. We Don't Need To Whisper is still my favorite.

[Ron57]

My favorite AVA song, interestingly enough is probably Rite of Spring. I-Empire is the only album I really got super into. Like the singles they've released plus a few other random songs.

From the new album though, i gotta say I like Young London, The Flight of Apollo, and Hallucinations so far.

[Brissona]

love this album.. People get caught up in how much better it could be.. Tom bs.. ava vs. blink bs.. Its a solid album that's inviting and at the same time not overly ambitious.. to me it's just angels and airwaves doing their thing, its sad that that thing isn't what some people want and they feel they gotta bitch about it to absolutely everyone!

[Brissona]

and I can't wait to see flight of apollo live.. ima go nuts :overhead:

[sleepyseanzzz]

did you really expect it to be like the original? AVA doesn't sound like BCR so to expect that song to sound like BCR is just wrong. Especially with the direction AVA took on their previous record.

i honestly expected it to be like the original, i mean with a summer full of blink songs and completing some writing for blink i thought he might have done something along the lines of it :shrug:

[Broden Terry]

I still need to give this a listen. I really liked their first two :shrug:

[0b4m4]

Listen to the album with canalphones that actually go into your ear. Make sure you get the ones that have a high bass frequency since everything sounds so much better. With these you can definitely hear all the wonderful engineering that was done on this album. I heard a lot of stuff that I didn't hear with the normal shitty headphones. Also make sure you listen to the entire album in a completely dark room with one candle lit. It's the little things that make a lasting album.

[FallOutWeeze]

Highly enjoyed it

[EndHasAStart]

Listen to the album with canalphones that actually go into your ear. Make sure you get the ones that have a high bass frequency since everything sounds so much better. With these you can definitely hear all the wonderful engineering that was done on this album. I heard a lot of stuff that I didn't hear with the normal shitty headphones. Also make sure you listen to the entire album in a completely dark room with one candle lit. It's the little things that make a lasting album.

Completely agree. Apart from the candle bit. I don't own candles.

But yeh - you can hear so many sounds that go unnoticed even on decent speakers. At the end of Young London, in the outo/intro-for-the-next-song, there's a kind of woosh sound in one ear, then the other. Sounds awesome through in-ear headphones.

[CaptBrunch]

can't get into them, hate delonge's voice

[TheVsed]

The one thing that annoys me is the long instrumentals at the end of the songs. Maybe it is because I am used to them at the beginning so it is weird at the end.

yeah dude, i hate instrumental outros that arent piano or a single note held long... mars volta likes to do that and it sketches me out

[TheVsed]

Listen to the album with canalphones that actually go into your ear. Make sure you get the ones that have a high bass frequency since everything sounds so much better. With these you can definitely hear all the wonderful engineering that was done on this album. I heard a lot of stuff that I didn't hear with the normal shitty headphones. Also make sure you listen to the entire album in a completely dark room with one candle lit. It's the little things that make a lasting album.

i agree that u cant really judge an album till u just sit there and listen to it with headphones on with closed eyes, but not all candle culty haha.

[0b4m4]

i agree that u cant really judge an album till u just sit there and listen to it with headphones on with closed eyes, but not all candle culty haha.

Completely agree. Apart from the candle bit. I don't own candles.

But yeh - you can hear so many sounds that go unnoticed even on decent speakers. At the end of Young London, in the outo/intro-for-the-next-song, there's a kind of woosh sound in one ear, then the other. Sounds awesome through in-ear headphones.


I only said the candle part because in an interview a few years ago Tom said to listen to WDNTW in a completely dark room with one candle lit. haha, i just thought it was funny to add that in. closed eyes is much better for me to concentrate.

[Jasper112]

sure not. you were probably a bit too optimistic.. :p I like the song though.

Ya, i still like it

[UnderMyDreams]

I love Letters From God Part II, best work they have ever done.

I really disagree, and really wish he wouldn't have named it that. It really doesn't go with anything Boxcar did. I don't get why he named it that.

Anyway, I didn't think the album was that great. It wasn't terrible, and way better than I expected, but still not awesome. A lot of it just sounds like everything else they've done, with just a few standout tracks. It's probably overall better than I Empire, but still nothing I want to listen to all the time.

I feel like there's just a few decent songs off of every CD. If they would have just skipped all of the songs that sound exactly the same and skipped the ones that just aren't good and just released one CD with the good songs on it, I would like them a lot more.

[UnderMyDreams]

Listen to the album with canalphones that actually go into your ear. Make sure you get the ones that have a high bass frequency since everything sounds so much better. With these you can definitely hear all the wonderful engineering that was done on this album. I heard a lot of stuff that I didn't hear with the normal shitty headphones. Also make sure you listen to the entire album on the top of a hill overlooking a city, and being just plain epic. It's the little things that make a lasting album.

Fixed.

[spunkmastaflex]

idk about anyone else, but this album sounded exactly like I-Empire for me, and i did not enjoy I-Empire so... this albums is lacking imo

[sidewacker]

Now that I've had time to thoroughly absorb this album, as I did with their previous work, I think this is their best album to date by far.

[kalsonberry]

The only song I really like from it is Young London...it could still grow on me seeing that it's in my itunes, but in general I thought their first two albums were a lot better.

[pleasedontask]

Anyone see them on Carson Daily last night talking about it?

[ghsNICK!]

I'm digging this album a lot.

[Zach Cool]

Now that I've had time to thoroughly absorb this album, as I did with their previous work, I think this is their best album to date by far.me2

[Farva2]

Werent they going to put this on out on vinyl? What ever happened to that...

[bradsonemanband]

Werent they going to put this on out on vinyl? What ever happened to that...

they're probably waiting til Love 2 is out before releasing it on vinyl since its essentially the same album, but with another disc of new songs.

[whiskey55]

my favorites from the album are Hallucinations, Epic Holiday, and Some Origins of Fire.... the entire album's really solid though. I like Hallucinations more than Up All Night, I'm actually thinking blink's going to have to work really hard to top LOVE (never thought I'd say that).

going to see the movie premiere on the 10th, soooo stoked to see it!!!!!

[Clockwise]

Definitely my favorite AVA album, cannot wait for the movie and Love Part 2!

[bradsonemanband]

I think Love is just the same formula as the 2 other albums:

1/3 is great
1/3 is meh
1/3 is garbage

[Alligator Blood]

I think Love is just the same formula as the 2 other albums:

1/3 is great
1/3 is meh
1/3 is garbage

Got to say, strongly disagree with that.

[bobcatbob18]

I feel their albums have gained filler as they progress. I think Whisper is borderline perfection for what it is, I-Empire had a little filler (was Jumping Rooftops absolutely necessary?), and Love was about 1/3 filler for me but also contains some of their best songs. I love Matt's keyboard work, it made LOVE feel like an absolute whole.

[bradsonemanband]

Got to say, strongly disagree with that.

lots of people will probably disagree. but this is how i see it:


We Don't Need To Whisper:

Great:
Valkyrie Missile
Do It For Me Now
The Adventure
The War

Meh:
Distraction
A Little's Enough
It Hurts

Garbage:
The Gift
Good Day
Start The Machine

I-Empire:

Great:
Call To Arms
Love Like Rockets
Secret Crowds
True Love

Meh:
Everything's Magic
Sirens
Rite Of Spring
Heaven

Garbage:
Breathe
Star Of Bethlehem
Lifeline
Jumping Rooftops

Love:

Great:
Young London
Epic Holiday
Hallucinations

Meh:
The Flight Of Apollo
Shove
Clever Love
Letters To God 2
Some Origins Of Fire

Garbage:
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
The Moon Atomic
Soul Survivor

[Alligator Blood]

lots of people will probably disagree. but this is how i see it:


We Don't Need To Whisper:

Great:
Valkyrie Missile
Do It For Me Now
The Adventure
The War

Meh:
Distraction
A Little's Enough
It Hurts

Garbage:
The Gift
Good Day
Start The Machine

I-Empire:

Great:
Call To Arms
Love Like Rockets
Secret Crowds
True Love

Meh:
Everything's Magic
Sirens
Rite Of Spring
Heaven

Garbage:
Breathe
Star Of Bethlehem
Lifeline
Jumping Rooftops

Love:

Great:
Young London
Epic Holiday
Hallucinations

Meh:
The Flight Of Apollo
Shove
Clever Love
Letters To God 2
Some Origins Of Fire

Garbage:
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
The Moon Atomic
Soul Survivor

Blimey, we're going to have to agree to disagree here because there is some choices on your list that are dropping my jaw, especially on LOVE. Each to their own of course, and I respect your opinion as always, but The Flight of Apollo and Letters To God Part II both meh!? Damn, I love those. Soul Survivor is one of my favourites too. Definitely don't agree wiith the brilliant Rite of Spring being meh too, and I certainly don't agree with Breathe being garbage, it's one of the highlights of I-Empire in my opinion.

[Clockwise]

lots of people will probably disagree. but this is how i see it:


We Don't Need To Whisper:

Great:
Valkyrie Missile
Do It For Me Now
The Adventure
The War

Meh:
Distraction
A Little's Enough
It Hurts

Garbage:
The Gift
Good Day
Start The Machine

I-Empire:

Great:
Call To Arms
Love Like Rockets
Secret Crowds
True Love

Meh:
Everything's Magic
Sirens
Rite Of Spring
Heaven

Garbage:
Breathe
Star Of Bethlehem
Lifeline
Jumping Rooftops

Love:

Great:
Young London
Epic Holiday
Hallucinations

Meh:
The Flight Of Apollo
Shove
Clever Love
Letters To God 2
Some Origins Of Fire

Garbage:
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
The Moon Atomic
Soul Survivor

Yeah, I disagree with that for sure. I actually think Whisper has the most "filler", but I still enjoy all of it quite a bit.

[bradsonemanband]

yeah... i knew i'd be shunned for my opinions on AVA songs haha. Tom's melodies are all that i really love about AVA. the lyrics are laughable a lot of the time, and the music all just flows together pretty much. every song sounds the same, except for a small handful.

[Alligator Blood]

yeah... i knew i'd be shunned for my opinions on AVA songs haha. Tom's melodies are all that i really love about AVA. the lyrics are laughable a lot of the time, and the music all just flows together pretty much. every song sounds the same, except for a small handful.

I agree that a lot of songs sound similar. A person has to spend a lot of time with particular track before they become distinguishable, however, I do think that started to change a little on LOVE, possibly because I felt they'd eased off on using delay and phaser effects all of the time, so a lot of riffs started to stand out more. The only example of typical AVA phaser being used I can think of is on Epic Holiday, and that song is strong enough to benefit from it.
My friend Izzy said that Angels & Airwaves were awful the other day, before continuing to state that Blink 182 were rubbish. Could have smacked her. I wouldn't mind if she listened to good music, instead of dubstep, or god awful bland over-rated bands like Arctic Monkeys.

[Zach Cool]

I made a mixtape of my favorite songs from each album. The tracklisting is as follows:

1 Valkyrie Missile
2 Good Day
3 Start the Machine
4 Call to Arms
5 Love Like Rockets
6 Secret Crowds
7 Star of Bethlehem
8 True Love
9 Jumping Rooftops
10 Right of Spring
11 Heaven
12 Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
13 The Flight of Apollo
14 Young London
15 The Moon-Atomic(...Fragments and Fictions)
16 Soul Survivor (...2012)
17 Letters to God, Part II
18 Some Origins of Fire

[Alligator Blood]

I made a mixtape of my favorite songs from each album. The tracklisting is as follows:

1 Valkyrie Missile
2 Good Day
3 Start the Machine
4 Call to Arms
5 Love Like Rockets
6 Secret Crowds
7 Star of Bethlehem
8 True Love
9 Jumping Rooftops
10 Right of Spring
11 Heaven
12 Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
13 The Flight of Apollo
14 Young London
15 The Moon-Atomic(...Fragments and Fictions)
16 Soul Survivor (...2012)
17 Letters to God, Part II
18 Some Origins of Fire

No Do It For Me Now, The Adventure, Hallucinations or Epic Holiday?

[Zach Cool]

No Do It For Me Now, The Adventure, Hallucinations or Epic Holiday?

Definitely not. Such generic AvA songs...

[KenneyBN]

i would have out Heaven as the closer. in my opinion, one of the strongest closers i have ever heard/

[Alligator Blood]

Definitely not. Such generic AvA songs...

I think the only non-generic AVA song they've ever done is Rite of Spring haha, but every album has a different vibe.

[TZE]

just came here to say this.. anyone else watch that AVA red bull session? i'm sure you guys already know its heavily edited but the music you hear is not even what you see its pretty disappointing... apparently its recorded separately and mixed together? if you check out the videos you can see like things in the background magically moving and atom's cap going on and off. that being said the quality is still awesome its nice to listen to

[bradsonemanband]

just came here to say this.. anyone else watch that AVA red bull session? i'm sure you guys already know its heavily edited but the music you hear is not even what you see its pretty disappointing... apparently its recorded separately and mixed together? if you check out the videos you can see like things in the background magically moving and atom's cap going on and off. that being said the quality is still awesome its nice to listen to

haha i noticed all of that too

[bradsonemanband]

I think the only non-generic AVA song they've ever done is Rite of Spring haha, but every album has a different vibe.

if that song didn't have that damn "yo way oh oh" part in the end, i would love it. but that shit bugs the hell out of me.