The "New Music" Thread

[briewer]

I'm pretty disenthralled with both this site and the state of my music listening, so I'm attempting a way to possibly kill two birds with one stone. With this thread, I hope to expose myself and others to new genres and aesthetics that we may have never been aware of, and to share any new or interesting things we might come across. And maybe, if this has even the suggestion of being successful, we could have some healthy discussion about the things we share. Just a few guidelines so this idea doesn't get bastardized instantly:

"New" is a relative term. The goal is only to post things that people haven't listened to, i.e., new to them. If you've got something from the 1930's or whatever that you'd like to share, go for it.
Any music you wish to contribute should be readily available for anyone interested. Don't post a name or a picture and make us find it, bring it to us. Youtube videos are probably best, but a link or something directly to what you hope to share is just as good.
Anything originating from a popular genre or that can be easily analogized to a band known by many, keep out of here. The entire rest of this forum is intended for that shit, so keep it there.
Don't be afraid to get as obscure or unpalatable as you want. The goal of this is to bring to light things people haven't heard before, regardless of how "artsy" it is. Don't be shy, just go crazy.
Let's have some fun with this. That's what we're here for, right?

I'll start it off with two tracks I'm vibin' on. First one's some 70's Persian psych, second one's some chill, ethereal tones.

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[Wake Up]

I'm having trouble finding a youtube video for this, but.

"Saffrons Calls" & "False Starts"
(both songs that are currently up)

http://www.myspace.com/arevkonn

[GuitarGuy]

Here's two bands I'm a big fan of that most people here have probably never heard of:

The Boxer Rebellion - 'Flashing Red Light Means Go'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMMRkclZ450

In Case of Fire - 'This Time We Stand'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGU7MJB7_2s

[briewer]

I'm having trouble finding a youtube video for this, but.

"Saffrons Calls" & "False Starts"
(both songs that are currently up)

http://www.myspace.com/arevkonn
I like this. Perhaps a bit too formless for my tastes, but still, pretty solid.

[ruffian]

Been pretty addicted to the self-titled tape by The Twerps as of late. You could lump em' together with a lot of the lo-fi garage/jangle pop revival stuff out now, but their equally catchy and melancholy melodies help them transcend that tag a little I think. Plus they're from Australia!
www.myspace.com/thetwerpstheband

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http://vimeo.com/9320705 (the site should really fix this)

dig that raga too, briewer

[briewer]

Now we're cooking.

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[Brand-new-123]

subscribing

[Wake Up]

Now we're cooking.


I'm really digging the three you've posted so far.

[ruffian]

new dem hunger mixtape is good

here's new hype williams. more popular reference point would be like flying lotus type stuff, but much more far out

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[Wake Up]

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[briewer]

dig that raga too, briewer
I got it off that new Pomegranates comp, whole hell of a lot of solid music on there.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Pomegranates/release/2162373

[IntoTheSun]

Nice idea. I wasn't sure if this would ever find an audience on AP, but there's this modern Austrailian composer by the name of Sarah Hopkins who has some really stunning, earthy, almost eerie compositions. I was actually able to hear a choral group perform one of her pieces at my school. There's a really cool effect in her choral music called "overtones", which you can hear in the middle of this song:

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[Jake Gyllenhaal]

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[xJesusFreakx]

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This makes me so pumped for summer.

Also, nice thread idea, Brian. I'd like to see this become a popular discussion thread. Like many threads ideas, it can easily fall into a lame "post count +1" thread, but I see some nice discussion/recommendation potential.

[myplanforescape]

Arab on Radar - God is Dad
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuYjXx_I_RE)

[briewer]

Nice idea. I wasn't sure if this would ever find an audience on AP, but there's this modern Austrailian composer by the name of Sarah Hopkins who has some really stunning, earthy, almost eerie compositions. I was actually able to hear a choral group perform one of her pieces at my school. There's a really cool effect in her choral music called "overtones", which you can hear in the middle of this song:

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Exactly what I'm looking to do with this thread. Keep it coming.

[IntoTheSun]

Exactly what I'm looking to do with this thread. Keep it coming.

It get really trippy at around 3.30...I love it.

[ruffian]

I got it off that new Pomegranates comp, whole hell of a lot of solid music on there.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Pomegranates/release/2162373

looks good, do you know what the deal is with uploads on this forum? this thread would be a lot better with links. i would assume its not encouraged based on the fact that i haven't seen them on here in like 5 years.

[briewer]

looks good, do you know what the deal is with uploads on this forum? this thread would be a lot better with links. i would assume its not encouraged based on the fact that i haven't seen them on here in like 5 years.
I couldn't tell you.

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I can't tell if you're dumb, an asshole, or both.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I can't tell if you're dumb, an asshole, or both.

GO HERE!!!!!!!!!! (http://pitchfork.com/)

[briewer]

You're right ruffian, this whole anti-vimeo thing is ridiculous. Here's some really solid rap music from Curren$y: http://vimeo.com/9724750

GO HERE!!!!!!!!!! (http://pitchfork.com/)
You're hilarious.

[xJesusFreakx]

looks good, do you know what the deal is with uploads on this forum? this thread would be a lot better with links. i would assume its not encouraged based on the fact that i haven't seen them on here in like 5 years.

Links to downloads? It's alright for b-sides, bootlegs, and out of print stuff, not for anything you can buy.

GO HERE!!!!!!!!!! (http://pitchfork.com/)

No. (http://sunonthesand.com/)

[IntoTheSun]

GO HERE!!!!!!!!!! (http://pitchfork.com/)

...or you could shut the fuck up.

Links to downloads? It's alright for b-sides, bootlegs, and out of print stuff, not for anything you can buy.

So, I just remembered. I like some Taiwanese pop (sorry if this is "ruining" your thread, Brian. I'm trying not to.) I think you'll enjoy this song, or maybe not:

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[Wake Up]

I can't tell if you're dumb, an asshole, or both.

I've learned to ignore this motherfucker.

[drevans18]

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truly one of my favorite songs out there. i feel like this fits in - listen to the entire thing.

[xJesusFreakx]

So, I just remembered. I like some Taiwanese pop (sorry if this is "ruining" your thread, Brian. I'm trying not to.) I think you'll enjoy this song, or maybe not:

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I prefer my pop music with English lyrics to sing along with, but that was rather pretty. Thank you for the rec.

[briewer]

No. (http://sunonthesand.com/)
...or you could shut the fuck up.
Just ignore him guys, or he'll keep coming back. He listens to blink 182, I think that's more punishment than we could ever give him.

So, I just remembered. I like some Taiwanese pop (sorry if this is "ruining" your thread, Brian. I'm trying not to.) I think you'll enjoy this song, or maybe not:

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Oh pish posh Andrea. Post literally anything that is not covered regularly by the site.

[briewer]

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truly one of my favorite songs out there. i feel like this fits in - listen to the entire thing.
Very solid. Have you heard 'Run Into Flowers'? One of my favorite songs ever.

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[IntoTheSun]

I prefer my pop music with English lyrics to sing along with, but that was rather pretty. Thank you for the rec.

Yeah, no problem. I have a soft spot for Rainie Yang. She's a really sweet performer and singer...one of the few things I enjoy about Taiwanese/Asian pop culture. If you are curious, the song title roughly translates to "ambiguity", as in, ambiguity in her exact relationship with this boy yadada, you get what I'm saying haha.

Oh pish posh Andrea. Post literally anything that is not covered regularly by the site.

I'll try my best. I can't really think of anything else right now, but I will be posting more stuff in the next couple of days for sure.

[ruffian]

i'm home from school and real bored so i'm just gonna keep posting stuff I like.

and more synthy stuff- Oneohtrix Point Never.

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[takeaction]

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Yann Tiersen.

[ruffian]

my last one

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[El_Jeffe]

Don't worry about that Jake Gyllenhaal poster, banned from the thread already.

Great thread though, it's like it was made for me, haha. The next time I jump online I'll post some of my own suggestions, & scour through this entire thread checking out new things, which I hope we all get into.

[ShimmerAndSpill]

I have some friends that are really into prog metal, I don't listen to it a whole lot, but this band absolutely blows me away.

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Oddly enough, if you look at the drummer and have ever watched Metalocaplypse, their drummer looks just like pickles.

[CatalinaCaper]

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Okay so this is my first contribution, certainly not as abstract as a lot of these suggestions but these guys are awesome. I've been a closet Brit-Indie-Pop follower for a long time.

[jessicaa__]

I fuckin' love these dudes:
The Shackeltons- Your Movement
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[cshadows2887]

Maybe someone will finally join me in loving this song. One of my all-time favorites:

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Edit: Ta-Da! Thanks, Craig.

[El_Jeffe]

Copy the youtube url (like you've done). But in the reply box, click the icon that looks like a movie take thing-a-ma-jig, which will say "insert video" when you run your cursor over it. Paste your youtube url in there.

If you have a pop-up blocker, you will have to temporarily allow pop-ups to do the above.

[Broden Terry]

This was taken from my blog from late last year:

Prego are a five-piece indie/shoegaze band from London. Largely unheard of, and thus, criminally and vastly underrated, Prego are set to release debut record titled Start Stop in the summer. Citing influences such as Explosions In the Sky through to Mogwai and Arcade Fire, and with the profound ability to write intricate, luscious melodies accompanied with expertly crafted lyrics that seem to culminate inside your ears into colossal, stunning musical grace and beauty, 2010 could be the year that Prego absolutely explodes onto everybody's radar.

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[cshadows2887]

So I took some time and listened to every song posted in this thread so far. Most of it was a bit too weird for me. Can't say I didn't try. The M83 songs were fantastic though. And I didn't think I liked Colbie Caillet until that song Tim posted. Also that Persian psychadelia stuff was pretty rad. If I saw that in a record store for a buck, I'd buy it, no question.

[Thomas Nassiff]

I had to turn on the lights when I listened to the Persian one in the original post. Scared me.

[Thomas Nassiff]

This was taken from my blog from late last year:

Prego are a five-piece indie/shoegaze band from London. Largely unheard of, and thus, criminally and vastly underrated, Prego are set to release debut record titled Start Stop in the summer. Citing influences such as Explosions In the Sky through to Mogwai and Arcade Fire, and with the profound ability to write intricate, luscious melodies accompanied with expertly crafted lyrics that seem to culminate inside your ears into colossal, stunning musical grace and beauty, 2010 could be the year that Prego absolutely explodes onto everybody's radar.

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A) This is fantastic.

B) Good writing, dude.

[Thomas Nassiff]

I have some friends that are really into prog metal, I don't listen to it a whole lot, but this band absolutely blows me away.

Oddly enough, if you look at the drummer and have ever watched Metalocaplypse, their drummer looks just like pickles.

Nice post, man. I heard Pain of Salvation a couple days ago and that second video of them you posted is incredible. Really stand apart from most of the stuff I've heard in that genre.

Don't worry about that Jake Gyllenhaal poster, banned from the thread already.

Great thread though, it's like it was made for me, haha. The next time I jump online I'll post some of my own suggestions, & scour through this entire thread checking out new things, which I hope we all get into.

Did you ban him just for the one blink video? Haha

[El_Jeffe]

Did you ban him just for the one blink video? Haha

Nah, not from the AP site mate, just so he can't post in this thread. I've been a member here long enough to know how many posters roll haha. This has potential to be a great thread, so we don't need intentional smartass's like him trying to ruin it for everyone.

[Thomas Nassiff]

Nah, not from the AP site mate, just so he can't post in this thread. I've been a member here long enough to know how many posters roll haha. This has potential to be a great thread, so we don't need intentional smartass's like him trying to ruin it for everyone.

Haha no I understood that it was just from the thread. But I just thought it was funny based on one post. You have the experience though.

[the seventeenth]

'The Great I Am' by Agraceful
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The band is amazing and Chris (original emarosa singer) as a vocalist is just stunning. The guy has amazing pipes. I don't think this band is really well known, so I'd just like to share them. Anyways, give them a listen. You can see the Emarosa vibe going on, too.

[TheProsAndCons]

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Such a good song to go to fall asleep to :-)

[Sloth7]

Excellent idea for a thread.

This is a little off the beaten path for AP, but what the heck... if anyone here is a fan of cinematic score, I suggest Audiomachine. They actually produce music for movies and television, but it makes for a great soundtrack for a long drive, or to throw on your iPod when you go running. If anyone watched any of the Vancouver Olympics, they did some of the music that accompanied the pieces during it on NBC. They're not always super long songs, but if you're a fan of those sports intros/montages on tv with the epic music, like myself, I'd recommend a listen...

Audiomachine- "Hymn of the Rising"

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Audiomachine- "Men of Valor II"

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[CatalinaCaper]

'The Great I Am' by Agraceful
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The band is amazing and Chris (original emarosa singer) as a vocalist is just stunning. The guy has amazing pipes. I don't think this band is really well known, so I'd just like to share them. Anyways, give them a listen. You can see the Emarosa vibe going on, too.

I love this song, a lot. However I wish the rest of that album was anything close to that song.

[CatalinaCaper]

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Another one of my favorite Brit-Indie bands that were fairly recognized in the UK but completely off the radar in the States. Sadly broken up but they put out a killer EP and full length.

[Brand-new-123]

Philip Glass is a composer. He makes pretty music.
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From his bio: One of the most prolific and inventive songwriters of the last decade, Ryland Bouchard (previously known as the Kill Rock Stars/5RC recording artist The Robot Ate Me) has managed to defy convention consistently pushing the boundaries of recorded music. Labeled by Daytrotter.com as “One of the most creative and potentially scary minds of our generation” and by Spin as “purely artistic, baffling, and almost completely uncommercial”.


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[Wake Up]

Ryland Bouchard

I've been loving his Cowbirds & Cuckoos record.

[Brand-new-123]

I've been loving his Cowbirds & Cuckoos record.
Yeah I love how he transitions from probably the happiest song on the record to the saddest song from part one to part two. His Seeds project is also phenomenal.

[Wake Up]

Yeah I love how he transitions from probably the happiest song on the record to the saddest song from part one to part two. His Seeds project is also phenomenal.

I've been getting around to check that out. This might be the push I need.

[Wake Up]

for fans of blink 182, simple plan, atl, the ataris etc.


Sweet self promo bud

but while we're on the subject... that's some horrible album artwork you got there

[the seventeenth]

I love this song, a lot. However I wish the rest of that album was anything close to that song.
Me too, but i can't complain, whether he is screaming or using clean vocals, Chris is one of the best vocalists out there. A Prophecy In Reverie is still a great song. They are unique. I think that they broke up though, ha.

[Wake Up]

Me too, but i can't complain, whether he is screaming or using clean vocals, Chris is one of the best vocalists out there. A Prophecy In Reverie is still a great song. They are unique. I think that they broke up though, ha.

You're 15. Most of the opinions stated in that post will change by the time you're... Say 17/18? Hopefully sooner.

[briewer]

Glad to see this thread working out fairly well. Here's some Japanese baroque indie-pop for your asses:

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[Technicolor]

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[ohmessylife]

French Teen Idols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPWgL2mHQ3A

Puffin on my Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k3KbhDZ4JU

A Death Cinematic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ubYKQYa4A[/URL]

Roman Galvan: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAGUUk9_5Pc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG9kRAIO3Jg)

[the seventeenth]

You're 15. Most of the opinions stated in that post will change by the time you're... Say 17/18? Hopefully sooner.
Well, it isn't like society indoctrinated me into believing whether he is or he isn't a good vocalist. I formed an opinion, which by mistake i did not identify in my previous post. Yeah I'm 15, I get it. Everybody pulls that out sooner rather than later when I say something they disagree with. Just because of my age it doesn't mean I can't form a valid opinion? That's not really fair; what I'm not mature enough? I couldn't care less, can't you just respect my opinon and see that not everybody has the same taste as you may have or the same requirements in a certain band or musician?

[Wake Up]

Well, it isn't like society indoctrinated me into believing whether he is or he isn't a good vocalist. I formed an opinion, which by mistake i did not identify in my previous post. Yeah I'm 15, I get it. Everybody pulls that out sooner rather than later when I say something they disagree with. Just because of my age it doesn't mean I can't form a valid opinion? That's not really fair; what I'm not mature enough? I couldn't care less, can't you just respect my opinon and see that not everybody has the same taste as you may have or the same requirements in a certain band or musician?

I don't want to morph this thread into something completely off topic, but your post was valid. You may think Agraceful is a great band that is "unique." PM if you want to carry this on.

[MarkusTB]

Sweet self promo bud

but while we're on the subject... that's some horrible album artwork you got there


yep... :DDD

[the seventeenth]

I don't want to morph this thread into something completely off topic, but your post was valid. You may think Agraceful is a great band that is "unique." PM if you want to carry this on.
haha, nah, no need. Just wanted a little respect, and to not be looked down upon based off of my age. Thanks for handling that maturely though, and, anways, I didn't mean to say that the band itself are actually unique, they are generic at best, but i meant to say that his voice is unique.
May the thread continue on topic.

[IntoTheSun]

French Horn, anyone?

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[Jali]

Mini Moni- Aiin Dance no Uta
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I don't have any idea how well known this band are (i dont read music magazines or listen to the radio etc.) but Crystal Castles are pretty sweet:
Crimewave (the reason i say i think they may be well known is because this is obviously filmed for tv)
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I'm also a big fan of anything that's essentially just chaotic noise
(gg allin, anal cunt etc.)
My favourite of which is The Locust:

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Also, I know I mention them like all the time but Gnarkill are really, well, different...
Gay ****
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Shitbird Serenade
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[oddwithoutend]

Nice idea. I wasn't sure if this would ever find an audience on AP, but there's this modern Austrailian composer by the name of Sarah Hopkins who has some really stunning, earthy, almost eerie compositions. I was actually able to hear a choral group perform one of her pieces at my school. There's a really cool effect in her choral music called "overtones", which you can hear in the middle of this song:

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First of all, good thread idea. I'll be checking out a lot of these tunes.
Secondly, I really enjoyed this Andrea.

[ohmessylife]

I'm also a big fan of anything that's essentially just chaotic noise
(gg allin, anal cunt etc.)
My favourite of which is The Locust:

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The Locust are nothing new.

[liarsenic678]

Check out Flomaticc, hes a rapper but hes got some different stuff and he mixes alot of rock into his mixs

www.flomaticc.com

his facebook and myspace pages have someinteresting stuff (links avaliable on the website)

[ohmessylife]

Asamov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bh_FYev83c&feature=related

[Deadbolt23]

Les Maledictus Sound. They're a really great 60s french band. Their music is really diverse but always crazy and loads of fun.

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[will_to_burn]

I don't care if it's a cover or whatnot, this man is very talented.
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This is so eerie, and I inexplicably enjoy it.
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[FullCollaspe]

Pacific Uv- Longplay 2

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RIYL- Sigur Ros

The Angelic Process- Weighing Souls With Sand

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RIYL- Drone, Shoegaze, Loud Music

[Pat k]

Jacks - Stop the Clock (Japanese psych from the 70s, highly recommended if you like Les Rallizes Denudes)

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Speaking of Les Rallizes Denudes...
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[Pat k]

Hawaiian music

My favorite song from my Hawaiian band. Olomana's "Ku'u Home o Kahalu'u"
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Here's the famous (but not to you, probably) "Honolulu City Lights" by the Beamer Bros.
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Keali'i Reichel - E O Mai
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Notice how lots of Hawaiian music veers dangerously close to Lite fm and then pulls back with nuanced singing, tasteful acoustic playing, and well-done harmonies.

[zbrmike79]

this is my friend Aaron Maines new album under the name "Sex God"
it is beyond phenomenal
and he should be huge.

http://shackattackrecords.bandcamp.com/album/sex-god-the-secret-album

[jay_klinkhammer]

my band is new. but this counts as spam.

On the real though, check out Blank Page Empire from MN, if you like Oh Sleeper....they play all the softer parts of Oh Sleeper.

I don't know if that made sense but I just thought that when I saw them live.

[Brand-new-123]

The original Carter Family, consisting of folklorist A.P. Carter, his wife Sara and her cousin, Maybelle, was not only one of the most influential groups in country music history, they were also one of the most wonderful to listen to. They worked together, off and on, from 1927 to 1943, and various revival versions of the group were formed in the 1950s and '60s. Over the years, the Carter Family recorded dozens of songs which are now country and bluegrass standards, and Maybelle Carter is often credited as one of the most influential acoustic guitarists in country history -- her then-unique style is one of the models that modern flatpicking was built on.http://www.slipcue.com/music/country/countryartists/carterfamily.html
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[Alou]

Anna Phoebe. Brilliant violinist.

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[Alou]

Also Zoe Keating. Played with Rasputina a while back.

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[Wake Up]

Doby Watson
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[aradiantsunrise]

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[Thomas Nassiff]

Anna Phoebe. Brilliant violinist.


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Guitarist needs to take himself less seriously though. No one cares about you right now, we're all looking at the female violin prodigy on your right.

[XLT917]

This was taken from my blog from late last year:

Prego are a five-piece indie/shoegaze band from London. Largely unheard of, and thus, criminally and vastly underrated, Prego are set to release debut record titled Start Stop in the summer. Citing influences such as Explosions In the Sky through to Mogwai and Arcade Fire, and with the profound ability to write intricate, luscious melodies accompanied with expertly crafted lyrics that seem to culminate inside your ears into colossal, stunning musical grace and beauty, 2010 could be the year that Prego absolutely explodes onto everybody's radar.

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This is incredible, thank you.

And here is my input to this thread.

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It's Owl City without lyrics (literally the same guy), so if you hate him for those, give this a chance, really beautiful stuff.

[Deadbolt23]

This is definitely my favourite spot on AP at the moment. There's so much good stuff coming up.



Buena Vista Social Club. These guys are pretty famous, but they're not what the users of AP would normally listen to so...
Latin Jazz/Cuban Salsa. The best of it's kind, if you don't know these guys then you've gotta check them out.

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[Rawrr]

also Wounded Lion (http://absolutepunk.net/www.myspace.com/wlion)who've released three great 7"s and have an LP coming out (leaked already) on In the Red.
Wounded Lion is a scrappy pop formation with more layers than one might think. The LA-based quintet artfully blends crunchy guitar chug and caveman thud with buoyant pop melody and deceptively simple lyrics, uncovering wonky pop gems along the way. The songs hint at melancholy but simultaneously offer infectious choruses and exuberant grooves. The resulting sound is fresh, despite celebrating everything from the Velvets to the Clean, with some CCR thrown in for good measure.
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[Rawrr]

Been pretty addicted to the self-titled tape by The Twerps as of late. You could lump em' together with a lot of the lo-fi garage/jangle pop revival stuff out now, but their equally catchy and melancholy melodies help them transcend that tag a little I think. Plus they're from Australia!
www.myspace.com/thetwerpstheband (http://www.myspace.com/thetwerpstheband)

That tape is so good, listened to it a couple of times now, thanks for that. Is that and the 7" their only releases?

Also, good call on Gary War, his new 7" is great, only have that and New Raytheonport but it's some good jams to "chill with", or something. Have you listened to Roman Soldiers? I kind of want to because of the Gary War involvement, but I also kind of hate Blank Dogs so..

[kearn1tm]

The Locust are nothing new.

Much of this stuff isn't "new." That's not the point.

[ohmessylife]

Much of this stuff isn't "new." That's not the point.


You're right, I guess I just feel like they're not very 'new' either. Plenty of people know and listen to The Locust.

[Macbeth.]

I don't like any of this.

But its cool to see a thread idea stay up for more than a day, I wish every thread could have this support

[ohmessylife]

also Wounded Lion (http://absolutepunk.net/www.myspace.com/wlion)who've released three great 7"s and have an LP coming out (leaked already) on In the Red.

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This is awesome, thanks.

[Deadbolt23]

I don't like any of this.

But its cool to see a thread idea stay up for more than a day, I wish every thread could have this support

Nothing?!
I like almost all of this. I love expanding my music collection.

[Macbeth.]

Nothing?!
I like almost all of this. I love expanding my music collection.

I don't know man, I guess I just have simple tastes haha.

[ohmessylife]

An Albatross
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Anoroc
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Not a new song, but DJ Kno is just dope
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[kearn1tm]

You're right, I guess I just feel like they're not very 'new' either. Plenty of people know and listen to The Locust.

Plenty of people know of Phillip Glass. How many other artists can we apply that to in this thread? That's relative. How many Locust threats do we see bustling with activity on this board as compared to the gluttony of other bands constantly receiving attention? Why take a dig at someone just trying to share something they dig with others who might not be that hip on it? That's really lame. This thread should be a nurturing thing.

[kearn1tm]

Muslimgauze

Muslimgauze was a music project of Bryn Jones (17 June 1961–14 January 1999), a prolific British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) ethnic electronica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_electronica) and experimental musician (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_music), influenced by conflicts in the Muslim world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world) with an emphasis on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. With dozens of albums released under the Muslimgauze name, Jones was remarkably prolific, but his mainstream success was limited due in part to his work being issued mostly in limited editions on small record labels. Nonetheless, as critic John Bush[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze#cite_note-0) writes, "Jones' blend of found-sound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Found_sound) Middle Eastern atmospheres with heavily phased drones and colliding rhythm programs were among the most startling and unique in the noise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_music) underground."
The name Muslimgauze is a play on the word muslin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin) (a type of gauze)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze#cite_note-Stockholm-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslimgauze#cite_note-speaks-2) combined with Muslim, referring to Bryn Jones' preoccupation with conflicts throughout the Muslim world.


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[ohmessylife]

Plenty of people know of Phillip Glass. How many other artists can we apply that to in this thread? That's relative. How many Locust threats do we see bustling with activity on this board as compared to the gluttony of other bands constantly receiving attention? Why take a dig at someone just trying to share something they dig with others who might not be that hip on it? That's really lame. This thread should be a nurturing thing.


You're completely right. Definitely a lame thing to do...statement retracted. On a lighter note...


Some pretty fun music from Gonzales
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[kearn1tm]

Carolina Chocolate Drops

The Carolina Chocolate Drops are an old-time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old-time_music) string band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_band) from Durham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham,_North_Carolina), North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina), United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). Formed in November 2005 following the members' attendance at the Black Banjo Gathering (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Banjo_Gatheri ng&action=edit&redlink=1) in Boone, North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boone,_North_Carolina), the group is one of the few remaining African American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American) string bands. The group has three members: Rhiannon Giddens, Dom Flemons, and Justin Robinson, who were all in their twenties when the group formed.[1] (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0cfyxqwdldde) All of the musicians sing, and trade instruments including banjo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjo), fiddle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddle), guitar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar), harmonica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonica), snare drum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snare_drum), bones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bones_%28instrument%29), jug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jug_%28musical_instrument%29), and kazoo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazoo). The group learned much of their repertoire, which is based on the traditional music of the Piedmont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_%28United_States%29) region of North and South Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina),[2] (http://www.roisindubh.net/ccd/index.php?pageID=71) from the eminent African American old-time fiddler Joe Thompson, although they also perform old-time versions of some modern songs such as Blu Cantrell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu_Cantrell)'s R&B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%26B) hit "Hit 'em Up Style (Oops!) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit_%27em_Up_Style_%28Oops%21%29)."
The group has released at least three CDs (in 2006, 2008, and 2010), and has opened for Taj Mahal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taj_Mahal_%28musician%29).[3] (http://pas.appstate.edu/tajmahal.php) They have also performed on Mountain Stage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Stage)[4] (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99047558) and at the Mount Airy Fiddlers Convention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Airy_Fiddlers_Convention). Additionally they have performed on Fresh Air (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_Air) and BBC Radio in early 2010.


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[briewer]

Jeez, I've got a lot to get caught up on. Here's some John Cage:

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And if anyone's interested, this is the instrument these were composed on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared_piano

[drawndead]

Nice idea. I wasn't sure if this would ever find an audience on AP, but there's this modern Austrailian composer by the name of Sarah Hopkins who has some really stunning, earthy, almost eerie compositions. I was actually able to hear a choral group perform one of her pieces at my school. There's a really cool effect in her choral music called "overtones", which you can hear in the middle of this song:

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this is beautiful, i'm digging it so much

[Blakee]

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:D

[Blakee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXVDNPsZmYM

:D

[popo]

She's such a cutie patootie.

That I would love to penetrate.

[The Indigo]

A+ thread, Brian.

[Wake Up]

Jeez, I've got a lot to get caught up on. Here's some John Cage:


Thanks for this.

[grassygurl16]

Check out the Young and Divine! Their album just dropped onto I-tunes!

[kearn1tm]

Goblin

Goblin were an Italian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_rock) progressive rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock) band known for their soundtracks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundtrack) for Dario Argento (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dario_Argento) films (including Deep Red (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Red) of 1975, also known as Profondo Rosso, and Suspiria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspiria_%28soundtrack%29) of 1977).
They were initially named Cherry Five and were influenced by Genesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_%28band%29) and King Crimson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Crimson). Their early work spawned one eponymous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eponymous) progressive rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock) record. The band were then called in as replacements for composer Giorgio Gaslini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Gaslini), who had left the film Profondo Rosso after a conflict with director Dario Argento. They changed their name to Goblin and rewrote most of the score, including the famous main theme. The film, and the soundtrack album, were huge hits.
A reshuffle in their line-up followed, and they put out an instrumental progressive rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock) album Roller, before they got the chance to work with Argento again for Suspiria. The score's nerve-jangling experimental sounds and bizarre vocals have since become legendary. Other film soundtracks and a concept album (Il Fantastico Viaggio Del Bagarozzo Mark) followed, then the score for the European version of George A. Romero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_A._Romero)'s Dawn of the Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_of_the_Dead_%281978_film%29) (1978) (credited as "The Goblins").


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I need to start checking out some of the posts in here.

[Pat k]

Goblin



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I need to start checking out some of the posts in here.

Suspiria is a great movie with one hell of a soundtrack. Love Goblin.

[kearn1tm]

Suspiria is a great movie with one hell of a soundtrack. Love Goblin.

I'm on an Argento kick at the moment. I just polished off Opera. It's great, even the seemingly out-of-place metal score.

[ruffian]

That tape is so good, listened to it a couple of times now, thanks for that. Is that and the 7" their only releases?

Also, good call on Gary War, his new 7" is great, only have that and New Raytheonport but it's some good jams to "chill with", or something. Have you listened to Roman Soldiers? I kind of want to because of the Gary War involvement, but I also kind of hate Blank Dogs so..

Yeah I'm pretty sure all the Twerps have is the tape and 7''.

The Roman Soldier's 7'' is ok. Like the Mayfair Set, it sorta sounds exactly like you'd think them collaborating would. A side is like a gary war song w/ a touch of blank dogs, and vice versa for the b side. But yeah it's alright. What's your gripe w/ blank dogs?

[Rawrr]

Not sure, nothing about Blank Dogs is that captivating I guess, I dig some shit off Year One but it all kind of meshes together. Although I think I'm going to try out his new EP Phases because I liked the song he had up for it.

[ruffian]

yeah i'm not a huge fan. either way, you're killin it with the av/user title combo.

[cshadows2887]

I'm on an Argento kick at the moment. I just polished off Opera. It's great, even the seemingly out-of-place metal score.

I bought Suspiria on DVD just to have a way to listen to the Goblin tunes.

[Rawrr]

Ringo Deathstarr (http://www.myspace.com/ringodeathstarr):
Austins Ringo Deathstarr has been smashing Fender Jazzmasters and blowing out PA systems across America with their blitzkreig noise-pop assault. Taking cues from the loudest British bands of the late 80s and early 90s ( My Bloody Valentine, The Jesus and Mary Chain, Slowdive, and Ride for reference), Ringo put together a batch of songs with very descriptive titles: "Swirly," "Starrsha," and "Some Kind of Sad." After gaining a reputation for playing short, ear-bleeding sets, they released their first EP on CD and digital formats in the UK by Spoilt Victorian Child in 2007 to rave reviews. Supporting slots with The Dandy Warhols, A Place to Bury Strangers, The Pains of Being Pure at Heart and More exposed them to audiences ready and willing for their fuzzed-out, fucked-up pop songs.
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Band is so good, seeing them at some house tomorrow with a slew of other really great bands, really excited. Anyways, get into it.

[Rawrr]

yeah i'm not a huge fan. either way, you're killin it with the av/user title combo.
Thanx, I know that they're both totally two unrelated things (aside from Wigums dream in "Who Shot Mr. Burns?"), but they're like two of my favorite shows, so.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/WSMB_Wiggums_Dream.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/WSMB_Wiggums_Dream.png)

[popo]

Ringo Deathstarr is pretty good. I downloaded their S/T a few weeks back, and I quite liked it.

[IntoTheSun]

Ringo Deathstarr (http://www.myspace.com/ringodeathstarr):

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Band is so good, seeing them at some house tomorrow with a slew of other really great bands, really excited. Anyways, get into it.

Hey, this is pretty great.

[ohmessylife]

Ringo Deathstarr is definitely great.

[Broden Terry]

A) This is fantastic.

B) Good writing, dude.

This is incredible, thank you.

I'm really glad that you both like it! :-)

This is Carry Me, Ohio by Sun Kil Moon. It's completely gorgeous and hauntingly beautiful. The melodies and lyrics are just so captivating and enthralling. I highly recommend giving Ghosts of the Great Highway a listen. It really is a fantastic record.

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[Rawrr]

Weed Hounds (http://www.myspace.com/weedhounds) who put out a fantastic demo last summer, and was probably my favorite EP/demo of last year. Recently released a really killer split with Dude Japan a couple of weeks ago, listen to "Hard Drivin'" fmo that. Check out if you like anything even remotely 'gazy. Their album might be my most anticpated of this year, seriously can't stress how good they are. They allowed their demo to be put up for a free download http://icoulddietomorrow.blogspot.com/2009/06/weed-hounds-demo.html

Honestly, I have a hard time categorizing this stuff. It's not quite shoegaze, but it's not quite "standard" indie stuff. Maybe it's just Psychobilly. Who knows? What I do know is that these four songs have been on constant rotation on my iTunes for the past week and a half and show no signs of giving up their position.
This demo is super-solid and flat-out awesome. The band's sound possesses many of the elements I love in my music like this: lo-fi production, wirey and noisy guitars, alternating male and female vocals, etc. Real talk, these songs rule.

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[laserlife]

This band is pretty cool, and weird...check it out ;-)


http://thistownneedsguns.bandcamp.com/ - This Town Needs Guns

[Jali]

The Locust are nothing new.

New to me, i only discovered them about a month ago.

[Jali]

OH FUCK! I dunno how i forgot about these guys: http://www.theretrospankees.com/

They are a northampton based band (thats the english northampton) and they have worked with comic book legend Alan Moore fairly recently.

[ohmessylife]

New to me, i only discovered them about a month ago.


Yeah, that's my bad man. Enjoy, they are a pretty cool band.

[Pat k]

I'll be posting African music in here now.

Here's Samba Mapangala's Virunga playing Malako Disco
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And my favorite song, Jaffar.
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[xJesusFreakx]

Today I picked up Sonic Youth's Goo, Sunny Day Real Estate's LP2, and Gwen Stefani's The Sweet Escape. Yep.

[ohmessylife]

Well, I don't know if he has much of a following as I just heard about him, but...

Joe Purdy

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[myplanforescape]

I really enjoy the Weed Hounds demo.


Sweet Trip
RIYL: The Depreciation Guild

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[boomerangslang]

Lucio Battisti

According to Wikipedia, he's one of the best and most influential musicians to ever come out of Italy. I've hardly been able to stop spinning Anima Latina lately. Here's my favorite song from the album.
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[ruffian]

Lucio Battisti

According to Wikipedia, he's one of the best and most influential musicians to ever come out of Italy. I've hardly been able to stop spinning Anima Latina lately. Here's my favorite song from the album.
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nice, this album is incredible

[steedorf]

Just found this band! Catchy stuff!

www.myspace.com/chasethelight

[Deadbolt23]

Band_C. Jazz/Rock/Pop.

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[HometownHero]

Anything off this compilation of awesome
http://www.ljplus.ru/img3/l/e/lestp/lpp9.jpg

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This is a song off of it. The whole thing rules

[Deadbolt23]

Anything off this compilation of awesome
http://www.ljplus.ru/img3/l/e/lestp/lpp9.jpg

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This is a song off of it. The whole thing rules

Holy shit. There's an album for every culture.
http://rateyourmusic.com/search?searchterm=love%20peace%20po etry&type=l

[briewer]

Forest Swords- 'Miarches', off their new album Dagger Paths.

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[HometownHero]

Holy shit. There's an album for every culture.
http://rateyourmusic.com/search?searchterm=love%20peace%20po etry&type=l

I saw that but the only one I own is the one I posted. But I want to get all the different cultures since it is so awesome. One of the songs off the comp I have is sampled in some rap song and then sampled on the new Mos Def record haha

[Deadbolt23]

I saw that but the only one I own is the one I posted. But I want to get all the different cultures since it is so awesome. One of the songs off the comp I have is sampled in some rap song and then sampled on the new Mos Def record haha

Yeah...the Turkish compilation is the only album with a score of over 4. I downloaded it Sounding pretty good from what I've heard.

[trashrock]

Guinea Worms LP Sorcererers of Madness

[HometownHero]

Yeah...the Turkish compilation is the only album with a score of over 4. I downloaded it Sounding pretty good from what I've heard.

Spread that shit around. Music like this should be heard

[DeusExMachina]

My sister is really into these guys, though I haven't listened to them that much. What I have listened to I liked though. Sorry if they aren't "new".
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If you like them, listen to Yoshimi battles the pink robot pt.1. Its a fun song.

EDIT: If you listen to the Yoshimi battle song, listen to the lyrics. Kinda funny IMO.

[Lizbella]

This is Carry Me, Ohio by Sun Kil Moon. It's completely gorgeous and hauntingly beautiful. The melodies and lyrics are just so captivating and enthralling. I highly recommend giving Ghosts of the Great Highway a listen. It really is a fantastic record.

This shit sounds good!

Hope your shoulder's better too. Sucks when you dislocate it.

[Jordachejeans91]

I was first turned onto the music of Nathaniel Swokowski about 5 or 6 years ago when he was in the band ivory, the video i posted it a b side from the band ivory, and its excellent. If you can find any ivory music i highly recommend it they released an ep, and 1 full length before the broke up. Nathaniel kept making music under the names Foto:graph and Nathaniel Moon, and he is currently in a band called fairline which i have seen posted about on the front page of absolute punk once or twice, all of these groups are very good in my opinion it may not be new to alot of you and i almost didnt post this because it doesnt really go with the type of music in this forum but i think his work is to good to be passed up and needs to be heard so check out some of his work


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^ foto graph

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http://www.myspace.com/fairline
^ new band fairline

[xJesusFreakx]

Picked up two Jesu releases today, Conqueror and Lifeline. I'm loving this band. Why must I be late to all the good parties? lol. Can't go wrong with shoegazing post metal stuff, right?

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[Matt Chylak]

i've always loved john cage. start watching from a minute in:
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he's actually a really interesting composer, if you're interested in learning more about him. VV
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[briewer]

i've always loved john cage. start watching from a minute in:
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he's actually a really interesting composer, if you're interested in learning more about him. VV
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I can't stand 4' 33". It strikes me as pointless wankery in comparison to the actual musical innovations he did with compositions like Sonatas And Interludes.

[IntoTheSun]

I can't stand 4' 33". It strikes me as pointless wankery in comparison to the actual musical innovations he did with compositions like Sonatas And Interludes.

The entire thing is...silence? Hm

[Matt Chylak]

I can't stand 4' 33". It strikes me as pointless wankery in comparison to the actual musical innovations he did with compositions like Sonatas And Interludes.

it's a decent introduction to some of his central philosophies though.

a lot of times people point out stuff like "well, anyone could've written that." the fact remains that no one did.

have you ever seen Black Mountain Piece or Water Music?

[briewer]

it's a decent introduction to some of his central philosophies though.

a lot of times people point out stuff like "well, anyone could've written that." the fact remains that no one did.
Sure, as a philosophical concept the idea of silence as musical composition is intriguing, but put into practice the outcome is, frankly, pretty boring. His prepared piano and delineated metric system are far more interesting in a spectating sense.

have you ever seen Black Mountain Piece or Water Music?
I haven't. What are they about?

[Matt Chylak]

Sure, as a philosophical concept the idea of silence as musical composition is intriguing, but put into practice the outcome is, frankly, pretty boring. His prepared piano and delineated metric system are far more interesting in a spectating sense.


I haven't. What are they about?

it's more "challenging the definitions of music" stuff. in both pieces, the performers do nonmusical actions in the middle of the performance, but they're all plotted in the score timewise and dynamically.

water music was one of his first experiments: stuff like shuffling cards, blowing a duck call whistle, changing stations on a radio. black mountain piece tried to remove the boundaries between the artist and audience...he grabbed people out of the crowd to "perform musical or extramusical actions" (description i read somewhere). apparently black mountain piece was a straight-up spectacle. i'm looking for it on youtube now, actually, but i'm having some trouble.

personally, i find the scientific aspects of classical music (12-tone systems, foriegn tone/scale notations) kind of boring. i'm more interested in the philosophical/historical issues surrounding the pieces.

[Matt Chylak]

wikipedia says "only fragments survive." oh well...steve reich does some interesting stuff too, although i get the feeling that you'd think of a lot of his work as novelty as well

[oddwithoutend]

lol "4'33".

[briewer]

steve reich does some interesting stuff too, although i get the feeling that you'd think of a lot of his work as novelty as well
No, I've got Drumming and Music For 18 Musicians by him, and I enjoy both.

[IntoTheSun]

lol "4'33".

Trying to present that to an audience just seems a bit half-assed.

[oddwithoutend]

Regardless of how much you enjoy silence, you can't take credit for it.

[JustAGirl01]

subscribing

[kearn1tm]

Regardless of how much you enjoy silence, you can't take credit for it.

You missed the point.

[xJesusFreakx]

If I'm ever in a band, which I won't, EVER, but if I am, I'd love to cover "4'33" live. It'd be interesting and fun to see how that goes in a club setting, lol.

[oddwithoutend]

You missed the point.
haha No, I don't think I did. Silence isn't a composition. Besides, I disagree with him fundamentally when he says "sound doesn't need to be meaningful to derive great pleasure from it".

[kearn1tm]

haha No, I don't think I did. Silence isn't a composition.

Why?
Besides, I disagree with him fundamentally when he says "sound doesn't need to be meaningful to derive great pleasure from it".

What is "meaningful?"

[kearn1tm]

Regardless of how much you enjoy silence, you can't take credit for it.

Also, you didn't address this. Why can't someone "take credit for silence" if it is an artistic expression? Moreover, if you think that's the purpose or the impetus for the composition, you've, as I mentioned, missed the point.

[Thesleepingwell]

Recently discovered this band:
Called Black Pyramid. Song is called 'Twlight Grave'

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Riffs were going all over the frickin place.
Trust me, this is something that's under the doom metal radar.

[Matt Chylak]

haha No, I don't think I did. Silence isn't a composition. Besides, I disagree with him fundamentally when he says "sound doesn't need to be meaningful to derive great pleasure from it".

part of the point is that the unintended sounds made by the environment being "played" in ARE the composition. so it's actually a completely different piece every time its played.

[briewer]

Regardless of how much you enjoy silence, you can't take credit for it.
I don't get this.

[xJesusFreakx]

http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/1/3/Andy-Warhol-Art-is-what-you-can-get-away-with-135393.jpg

[cshadows2887]

I came in here hoping the discussion of John Cage's pretentiousness would have played out. Damnit.

[ohmessylife]

http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/1/3/Andy-Warhol-Art-is-what-you-can-get-away-with-135393.jpg

Bingo!

[Thesleepingwell]

I don't get this.

Been following the thread, I don't get it either.

However I've enjoyed what's been posted in here music-wise.
Heard some good sounds.

[oddwithoutend]

Why?
Because he didn't compose it.
What is "meaningful?"
Depends on who you are (obviously).
Also, you didn't address this. Why can't someone "take credit for silence" if it is an artistic expression?
Because he didn't compose it. It's like thanking a server for bringing you an empty wine glass because you weren't thirsty.
Moreover, if you think that's the purpose or the impetus for the composition, you've, as I mentioned, missed the point.
If you think it's a composition, then you don't know what a composition is.

[kearn1tm]

Because he didn't compose it. It's like thanking a server for bringing you an empty wine glass because you weren't thirsty.

How didn't he compose it?

If you think it's a composition, then you don't know what a composition is.

So you like modernity, I take it.

[oddwithoutend]

a lot of times people point out stuff like "well, anyone could've written that." the fact remains that no one did.
What is it that he does in "4'33" that no one else has done?

[kearn1tm]

What is it that he does in "4'33" that no one else has done?

Used silence to make music, and if that's too constricting, to make art. He said something with silence to a lot of people incorporating a form used for compositions. Look at the conversations its sparked on this board alone.

[kearn1tm]

Philip Seymour Hoffman is among my favorite actors. He's a fantastic character actor. He becomes something entirely with each new role, but one thing he does very well with every new persona he adopts is that he utilizes silence perfectly. Critics praised him in Doubt because of his use of silence. Not necessarily his emoting or facials or body language while being quiet, but just the way he just stopped talking and would allow the silence to say so much in long spans of time. He used silence as an art.

Now, we could say "but he did it within the perimeters of a film, which still has so many other elements that make it a film" but so did Cage. He was in the setting that these sort of compositions take place, with an orchestra, in formal ware, marking time and making the motions of musical movement. He just used silence to fill up the space of what we normally expect in a composition. Who else did that and why isn't that a composition?

[oddwithoutend]

How didn't he compose it?
Because he refrained from creating anything.
So you like modernity, I take it.
haha It doesn't matter. If we use your definition of "compose", it wouldn't change how much his "composition" lacks in merit.

[oddwithoutend]

Used silence to make music, and if that's too constricting, to make art.
Nope, I appreciate the beauty of silence all the time, and certainly I'm not alone. I've even told people to listen to how quiet the environment is. Most people I know who've ever been in the wilderness have done this.

[kearn1tm]

Because he refrained from creating anything.

It would appear he did.

haha It doesn't matter. If we use your definition of "compose", it wouldn't change how much his "composition" lacks in merit.

What is my definition of "compose?"

[oddwithoutend]

It would appear he did.



What is my definition of "compose?"
I don't know, but it's certainly different than mine.

[cshadows2887]

Philip Seymour Hoffman is among my favorite actors. He's a fantastic character actor. He becomes something entirely with each new role, but one thing he does very well with every new persona he adopts is that he utilizes silence perfectly. Critics praised him in Doubt because of his use of silence. Not necessarily his emoting or facials or body language while being quiet, but just the way he just stopped talking and would allow the silence to say so much in long spans of time. He used silence as an art.

Now, we could say "but he did it within the perimeters of a film, which still has so many other elements that make it a film" but so did Cage. He was in the setting that these sort of compositions take place, with an orchestra, in formal ware, marking time and making the motions of musical movement. He just used silence to fill up the space of what we normally expect in a composition. Who else did that and why isn't that a composition?

My issue with this is semantic. It's performance art. You wouldn't call a dance routine a "composition' usually, unless I'm mistaken.

[kearn1tm]

Nope, I appreciate the beauty of silence all the time, and certainly I'm not alone. I've even told people to listen to how quiet the environment is. Most people I know who've ever been in the wilderness have done this.

I disagree. I think you're wrong. You claim it's pretentious and he can't "take credit for silence." He made "silence" music, in a music setting, and he's conducting, they're following it.

If a composition needs sound to qualify as a composition, then that's limiting. Fuck it. It's art. I appreciate this.

[kearn1tm]

My issue with this is semantic. It's performance art. You wouldn't call a dance routine a "composition' usually, unless I'm mistaken.

That's fine. If we're honoring these qualifiers, then it can be "performance art" working within the form of a composition, but what it appearently "doesn't do" makes a profound "noise" and inhabits a space and it's engaging (not that you're arguing against that. I'm springboarding my own ideas off yours).

[oddwithoutend]

I disagree. I think you're wrong. You claim it's pretentious and he can't "take credit for silence." He made "silence" music, in a music setting, and he's conducting, they're following it.
I never said it was pretentious.
If a composition needs sound to qualify as a composition, then that's limiting. Fuck it. It's art. I appreciate this.
Then put it on your i-pod!

[kearn1tm]

Since when do I take Brian's side on anything?

[kearn1tm]

I never said it was pretentious.

My fault. I'm attributing what I read in this thread entirely to you. I apologize.

Then put it on your i-pod!

Why?

[oddwithoutend]

My fault. I'm attributing what I read in this thread entirely to you. I apologize.



Why?
So you can listen to it whenever you want.

[cshadows2887]

That's fine. If we're honoring these qualifiers, then it can be "performance art" working within the form of a composition, but what it appearently "doesn't do" makes a profound "noise" and inhabits a space and it's engaging (not that you're arguing against that. I'm springboarding my own ideas off yours).

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. It's art. But it's not music. Music is art in sound form. That's what makes it music and not another medium. Silence is the absence of sound. So by definition, I'd have a hard time calling it music, or composition. Which is not to dismiss it's validity, but just, like I said, a semantic point.

[cshadows2887]

I said it was pretentous. And I think it's pretentious. But it's valid artistic expression nonetheless.

[kearn1tm]

So you can listen to it whenever you want.

I could. I could take the video and put it on my iPod. I could turn that video into an MP3, part of its appeal to me is seeing that silence inhabit space.

[kearn1tm]

I said it was pretentous. And I think it's pretentious. But it's valid artistic expression nonetheless.

Fair enough, but why do you find it pretentious?

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[kearn1tm]

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. It's art. But it's not music. Music is art in sound form. That's what makes it music and not another medium. Silence is the absence of sound. So by definition, I'd have a hard time calling it music, or composition. Which is not to dismiss it's validity, but just, like I said, a semantic point.

That's fine, but what about music made from bodily functions? What about music made from found sounds? Is the criteria for music simply noise?

[cshadows2887]

Fair enough, but why do you find it pretentious?

Actually not so much his creation of it. I find it more amusing than anything. I find people's rapturous responses to it pretentious more often than not. It's great in concept, but in reality, you're sitting there watching NOTHING. Yet I've heard people (music majors, ugh) rave about how it was the most enthralling musical experience. Yawn. I don't buy it.

[cshadows2887]

That's fine, but what about music made from bodily functions? What about music made from found sounds? Is the criteria for music simply noise?

Yes, I think so. That's what makes it music, right?

I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong, but if we're going to define music, it's art composed of sounds, no? What alternative definition would you offer?

[Thesleepingwell]

Yes, I think so. That's what makes it music, right?

I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong, but if we're going to define music, it's art composed of sounds, no? What alternative definition would you offer?

Music needs to be heard. Music is something that is listened to.
Can't see how one can just 'see' music.

[IntoTheSun]

Actually not so much his creation of it. I find it more amusing than anything. I find people's rapturous responses to it pretentious more often than not. It's great in concept, but in reality, you're sitting there watching NOTHING. Yet I've heard people (music majors, ugh) rave about how it was the most enthralling musical experience. Yawn. I don't buy it.

This is exactly what I wanted to say, Chris! It's certainly a bold statement and an interesting concept, and I feel it sends a strong message that people can and should appreciate silence, but I don't buy the audience part of it. I don't believe the audience is really sitting there immersing in the philosophical value of the piece. Like I said, it seems half-assed. If I were an audience member I'd be sitting there pretending to "get" something that feels "sophisticated." To me, the manner in which the composition is presented makes it full of pretension.

[oddwithoutend]

I disagree a lot with the music major I live with, but he thinks "4'33" is a joke.

[briewer]

Because he didn't compose it.
Sorry Rick, but this is where you're wrong. A composition is as much about the pauses as it is about the actual notes being played. They're equally as important in making a distinct piece of music, and equally as "musically intentional" as each other. It's not like, for example, you don't give Liars credit for composing 0:03 to 0:10 on 'The Other Side Of Mt. Heart Attack' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvTkTT_Ht80) because it's silence. It's still musical. Likewise, constant sound is undeniably musical, otherwise we wouldn't have certain types of ambient and drone music. So why couldn't a composition of constant pause be musical also? I understand what you're saying, that doing nothing and calling it music leaves open the door for a myriad of unsavory potential. I could claim that I composed 4'33" while I was sleeping last night, for example. But the difference is that it is has a clear beginning and ending and is done by people with musical intentions, and can be repeated by anyone who chooses to "perform" it. I can't see any way around that not being a musical composition.

[briewer]

Philip Seymour Hoffman is among my favorite actors. He's a fantastic character actor. He becomes something entirely with each new role, but one thing he does very well with every new persona he adopts is that he utilizes silence perfectly. Critics praised him in Doubt because of his use of silence. Not necessarily his emoting or facials or body language while being quiet, but just the way he just stopped talking and would allow the silence to say so much in long spans of time. He used silence as an art.

Now, we could say "but he did it within the perimeters of a film, which still has so many other elements that make it a film" but so did Cage. He was in the setting that these sort of compositions take place, with an orchestra, in formal ware, marking time and making the motions of musical movement. He just used silence to fill up the space of what we normally expect in a composition. Who else did that and why isn't that a composition?
PSH is one of my favorite actors too. I have a roommate that constantly gives me shit about being in love with the guy.

[oddwithoutend]

Sorry Rick, but this is where you're wrong. A composition is as much about the pauses as it is about the actual notes being played. They're equally as important in making a distinct piece of music, and equally as "musically intentional" as each other. It's not like, for example, you don't give Liars credit for composing 0:03 to 0:10 on 'The Other Side Of Mt. Heart Attack' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvTkTT_Ht80) because it's silence. It's still musical. Likewise, constant sound is undeniably musical, otherwise we wouldn't have certain types of ambient and drone music. So why couldn't a composition of constant pause be musical also? I understand what you're saying, that doing nothing and calling it music leaves open the door for a myriad of unsavory potential. I could claim that I composed 4'33" while I was sleeping last night, for example. But the difference is that it is has a clear beginning and ending and is done by people with musical intentions, and can be repeated by anyone who chooses to "perform" it. I can't see any way around that not being a musical composition.
If the difference is intention then my point still stands because I think intention is irrelevant.

[briewer]

If the difference is intention then my point still stands because I think intention is irrelevant.
There's a difference between intentions for a piece, i.e., the "message" it sends or whatever, and intentions to actually make a piece. That orchestra a few pages back didn't accidentally perform 4'33", they meant to perform it as such.

[Rawrr]

Everyone tell me I look lie PSH, don't see it.

[briewer]

I came in here hoping the discussion of John Cage's pretentiousness would have played out. Damnit.
Cage is a genius. Just listen to the videos I posted seven or so pages back.

[oddwithoutend]

There's a difference between intentions for a piece, i.e., the "message" it sends or whatever, and intentions to actually make a piece. That orchestra a few pages back didn't accidentally perform 4'33", they meant to perform it as such.
But he didn't make anything. If he intended to make something, he failed at it.

[IntoTheSun]

Well, this is going in circles now.

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[oddwithoutend]

Well, this is going in circles now.
Yeah, I'm getting bored of discussing the most uninteresting "piece" ever "created".

[ohmessylife]

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[briewer]

Yeah, I'm getting bored of discussing the most uninteresting "piece" ever "created".
Like I've said, things he's done with prepared piano are infinitely more interesting.

[kearn1tm]

Actually not so much his creation of it. I find it more amusing than anything. I find people's rapturous responses to it pretentious more often than not. It's great in concept, but in reality, you're sitting there watching NOTHING. Yet I've heard people (music majors, ugh) rave about how it was the most enthralling musical experience. Yawn. I don't buy it.

So why did you call the work pretentious if you find the response from those who appreciate it (and really, who did you poll for that response?) pretentious?

Yes, I think so. That's what makes it music, right?

I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong, but if we're going to define music, it's art composed of sounds, no? What alternative definition would you offer?


I think music, if we're calling it music, if we're adhering to the idea of sound, if we're going all formalist here, doesn't need to be restricted to music. What do you hear things when you read? This is becoming a major digression, but bear with me. Do you hear anything when you "listen" to silence?

[kearn1tm]

PSH is one of my favorite actors too. I have a roommate that constantly gives me shit about being in love with the guy.

Wha? The guy's a brilliant actor. I mean, seriously, give him a copy of Doubt, 25th Hour, Charlie Wilson's War, Synechoche, New York, Happiness and Capote. Sit him down in front of the television. Tell him to enjoy.

[Matt Chylak]

Philip Seymour Hoffman is among my favorite actors. He's a fantastic character actor. He becomes something entirely with each new role, but one thing he does very well with every new persona he adopts is that he utilizes silence perfectly. Critics praised him in Doubt because of his use of silence. Not necessarily his emoting or facials or body language while being quiet, but just the way he just stopped talking and would allow the silence to say so much in long spans of time. He used silence as an art.

Now, we could say "but he did it within the perimeters of a film, which still has so many other elements that make it a film" but so did Cage. He was in the setting that these sort of compositions take place, with an orchestra, in formal ware, marking time and making the motions of musical movement. He just used silence to fill up the space of what we normally expect in a composition. Who else did that and why isn't that a composition?

agreed (about PSH too).

it's interesting to me how this piece affects me in different ways at different times. each time i watch, i never turn the video off midway, even when i'm completely irritated by the brashness of the performance. though i guess all music can be like that, the emptiness of 4'33" is such a canvas for the moment. it's a litmus test.

this thread's going to be awesome.

[cshadows2887]

This is exactly what I wanted to say, Chris! It's certainly a bold statement and an interesting concept, and I feel it sends a strong message that people can and should appreciate silence, but I don't buy the audience part of it. I don't believe the audience is really sitting there immersing in the philosophical value of the piece. Like I said, it seems half-assed. If I were an audience member I'd be sitting there pretending to "get" something that feels "sophisticated." To me, the manner in which the composition is presented makes it full of pretension.

I like when we agree. It doesn't happen enough of late.

So why did you call the work pretentious if you find the response from those who appreciate it (and really, who did you poll for that response?) pretentious?

I think music, if we're calling it music, if we're adhering to the idea of sound, if we're going all formalist here, doesn't need to be restricted to music. What do you hear things when you read? This is becoming a major digression, but bear with me. Do you hear anything when you "listen" to silence?

My sample size is not enormous. Just some music majors at my school. My calling the piece pretentious was a misnomer I later tried to clarify. The piece in and of itself is fine. It's orgasmic reactions to it that I don't buy. Though, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Cage have a pretty high coneption of his own importance? I may be wrong, it's just a vague impression I remember from somewhere.

And no. You don't hear anything when you listen to real silence. Obviously real silence doesn't exist outside of a vaccum, but for practical intents and purposes "silence" could be defined as hearing nothing.

[cshadows2887]

Wha? The guy's a brilliant actor. I mean, seriously, give him a copy of Doubt, 25th Hour, Charlie Wilson's War, Synechoche, New York, Happiness and Capote. Sit him down in front of the television. Tell him to enjoy.

Don't forget Magnolia. That might be the best of the bunch, outside of Doubt.

[xJesusFreakx]

I just searched on Google for some definitions of "music," and one definition (http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=music) said, "an artistic form of auditory communication incorporating instrumental or vocal tones in a structured and continuous manner." Using this definition, isn't silence an auditory experience? Wouldn't being quite qualify as communication? The silence is in three movements of predetermined lengths of time, so it's structured.

[IntoTheSun]

I just searched on Google for some definitions of "music," and one definition (http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=music) said, "an artistic form of auditory communication incorporating instrumental or vocal tones in a structured and continuous manner."
First, why would you use a dictionary definition? I don't know, that seems kind of limiting.

Using this definition, isn't silence an auditory experience? Wouldn't being quite qualify as communication?
If so, then couldn't every waking/sleeping moment of your life count as an auditory experience?

The silence is in three movements of predetermined lengths of time, so it's structured.
But using the definition you found, it still doesn't encorporate "instrumental or vocal tones"...so yeah.

[kearn1tm]

I like when we agree. It doesn't happen enough of late.



My sample size is not enormous. Just some music majors at my school. My calling the piece pretentious was a misnomer I later tried to clarify. The piece in and of itself is fine. It's orgasmic reactions to it that I don't buy. Though, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Cage have a pretty high coneption of his own importance? I may be wrong, it's just a vague impression I remember from somewhere.

I don't know if he thought well of himself or not, but it wouldn't be unfounded. He was highly influential.

pquote]And no. You don't hear anything when you listen to real silence. Obviously real silence doesn't exist outside of a vaccum, but for practical intents and purposes "silence" could be defined as hearing nothing.[/quote]

"Practical purposes and intents?" Why does that matter? What other art do we gauge and measure by its "practical intent?" Why can't silence be heard?


Don't forget Magnolia. That might be the best of the bunch, outside of Doubt.

Great movie.

[kearn1tm]

First, why would you use a dictionary definition? I don't know, that seems kind of limiting.

So is the idea that "music is this."


If so, then couldn't every waking/sleeping moment of your life count as an auditory experience?

Why not? Now, how many people have attempted to harness it as art?


But using the definition you found, it still doesn't encorporate "instrumental or vocal tones"...so yeah.

He told you why it could.

[xJesusFreakx]

First, why would you use a dictionary definition? I don't know, that seems kind of limiting.

Just as a starting point, for discussion's sake. Dictionary definitions for words like "music" are certainly limiting, to say the least, but it's also potentially a fair place to begin.

If so, then couldn't every waking/sleeping moment of your life count as an auditory experience?

If you aren't deaf, yes.

But using the definition you found, it still doesn't encorporate "instrumental or vocal tones"...so yeah.

Well, this is where dictionary definitions being limiting comes in, lol.

[oddwithoutend]

Let's talk about Black Dice now, because noise is the only genre that matters because it inherently includes things that haven't been used, or at least haven't been capitalized on.

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[IntoTheSun]

I was never arguing silence could not be viewed as an art form, I just didn't understand why such a limiting definition had to be brought up in order to justify silence as being music. Sorry if that was unclear.

Anyway, like I said, this will just end up going in circles, so fuck it.

[xJesusFreakx]

Honestly, I think the fact that we have to discuss whether or not it's music is actually pretty respectable. This legitimately pushes the envelope of what one can call "music" in a tasteful, artistically meaningful manner, and I like that.

[FullCollaspe]

Been digging Evangelista lately

Evangelista is Carla Bozulich. She makes some pretty cool, eerie music that incorporates some noise.

Album: Prince of Truth

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[IntoTheSun]

Let's talk about Black Dice now, because noise is the only genre that matters because it inherently includes things that haven't been used, or at least haven't been capitalized on.

Funny. I was just thinking of Black Dice and why you hadn't mentioned them in this thread yet...about 5 minutes ago haha.

Maybe I will like them more now, I'll give it a listen.

[cshadows2887]

I don't know if he thought well of himself or not, but it wouldn't be unfounded. He was highly influential.

pquote]And no. You don't hear anything when you listen to real silence. Obviously real silence doesn't exist outside of a vaccum, but for practical intents and purposes "silence" could be defined as hearing nothing.

"Practical purposes and intents?" Why does that matter? What other art do we gauge and measure by its "practical intent?" Why can't silence be heard?

Great movie.[/quote]

What I'm saying is that, since true silence is impossible, something like Cage is the cloesest you can get to hearing nothing. Which is silence. Which is sort of the opposite of music. But we seem to be running. But we seem to be running in semantic circles, no? Truce?

And that movie is one of those time you just sit there in awe and wonder how anyone can be that brilliant. The ending blew my mind.

[briewer]

And no. You don't hear anything when you listen to real silence. Obviously real silence doesn't exist outside of a vaccum, but for practical intents and purposes "silence" could be defined as hearing nothing.
The piece isn't actually supposed to be "silent", per se, but a composition of background noises from a room full of people. Cage said it himself:

"They missed the point. There’s no such thing as silence. What they thought was silence, because they didn’t know how to listen, was full of accidental sounds. You could hear the wind stirring outside during the first movement. During the second, raindrops began patterning the roof, and during the third the people themselves made all kinds of interesting sounds as they talked or walked out."

[oddwithoutend]

Funny.
You could tell I was being facetious. Damn!
I was just thinking of Black Dice and why you hadn't mentioned them in this thread yet...about 5 minutes ago haha.
Maybe I will like them more now, I'll give it a listen.
We're like the same person!

[IntoTheSun]

I legitimately enjoy the Black Dice song now as opposed to finding it to be strange just a couple of months ago. What's a good album to start with?

[IntoTheSun]

You could tell I was being facetious. Damn!

We're like the same person!

And thanks for posting at the same time! Now respond to my post right below yours. That was a pretty sweet song.

[oddwithoutend]

I legitimately enjoy the Black Dice song now as opposed to finding it to be strange just a couple of months ago. What's a good album to start with?
That's awesome. I'd go with Repo, but they're all good.

[IntoTheSun]

That's awesome. I'd go with Repo, but they're all good.

Yay! I will go get that now. This makes me excited for Battles all of a sudden, even though they don't sound that alike. Hmm.

[briewer]

Let's talk about Black Dice now, because noise is the only genre that matters because it inherently includes things that haven't been used, or at least haven't been capitalized on.

taatcc0thdc
I prefer Beaches and Canyons to Repo, but yeah, Black Dice is the shit.

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And while we're on noise, I'd like to put forward one of my personal favorite artists in the genre, Fennesz:

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Been digging Evangelista lately

Evangelista is Carla Bozulich. She makes some pretty cool, eerie music that incorporates some noise.

Album: Prince of Truth

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I've had Hello, Voyager on my computer for the longest time and have never gotten around to listening to it. I'll probably do that tonight.

And that movie is one of those time you just sit there in awe and wonder how anyone can be that brilliant. The ending blew my mind.
Meh. I enjoyed the movie, but I didn't think it was anything that groundbreaking.

[oddwithoutend]

Fennesz is sick.

[oddwithoutend]

Yay! I will go get that now. This makes me excited for Battles all of a sudden, even though they don't sound that alike. Hmm.
Everything makes me excited about Battles.

[kearn1tm]

"

What I'm saying is that, since true silence is impossible, something like Cage is the cloesest you can get to hearing nothing.

How?

Which is silence. Which is sort of the opposite of music. But we seem to be running. But we seem to be running in semantic circles, no? Truce?

Truce? Are we at war? We can make this our DMZ. I'm simply not of the mind that silence can't be music, because I can hear something in silence, and the objective template of "music" is very restricting.

[IntoTheSun]

Not new by any means, but I finally got around to this [as in Island Diamonds] and I really enjoy the sound:

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I figured I should explore more drone/psychedelic artists similar to them because it's a genre I'm relatively unfamiliar with. Anyone have recs?

[kearn1tm]

A piece of pure pop pastiche, I present: The Postmarks (alteration is rad).

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[briewer]

Not new by any means, but I finally got around to this [as in Island Diamonds] and I really enjoy the sound:

iKOI4QJVVhc

I figured I should explore more drone/psychedelic artists similar to them because it's a genre I'm relatively unfamiliar with. Anyone have recs?
Sun Araw, Ducktails, Forest Swords.

[briewer]

A piece of pure pop pastiche, I present: The Postmarks (alteration is rad).
Adorable.

[IntoTheSun]

Sun Araw, Ducktails, Forest Swords.

Thanks. I'm really "meh" on the first one though, I know that.

[kearn1tm]

Adorable.
Me or the song? Wait, both. Duh.

[ohmessylife]

I figured I should explore more drone/psychedelic artists similar to them because it's a genre I'm relatively unfamiliar with. Anyone have recs?


This stuff is pretty old, but i've always really enjoyed Le Monte Young.

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[kearn1tm]

Seeing as how you're all talking about Drone/Ambient junk, anyone hear the new Growing? If so, thoughts?

[Pat k]

Here's Kadri Gopalnath playing ragas on his saxophone.
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Here's what that looks like in Western jazz, with Rudresh Mahanthappa (y'all gotta get into this dude, I'm telling you.).
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[kearn1tm]

Speaking of Growing

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[kearn1tm]

Here's Kadri Gopalnath playing ragas on his saxophone.
WVOsJvIfklQ

Here's what that looks like in Western jazz, with Rudresh Mahanthappa (y'all gotta get into this dude, I'm telling you.).
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Oh man, I've been jocking Mahanthappa for a while on these boards and no one responded. Raw Materials with Vijay Iyer is brilliant.

I've not heard much Gopalnath, but that sounds great.

[Pat k]

And here's Prurient. Super harsh noise- don't wear earphones, turn your volume down, don't put this shit in a random playlist or it could hurt.

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[ohmessylife]

Seeing as how you're all talking about Drone/Ambient junk, anyone hear the new Growing? If so, thoughts?


It's actually pretty enjoyable, although quite a departure from their 'distinctive sound'. It has somewhat futuristic qualities, and at some times can even be kind of dancy. I still need few more listens to really wrap my head around it.

[Pat k]

Oh man, I've been jocking Mahanthappa for a while on these boards and no one responded. Raw Materials with Vijay Iyer is brilliant.

I've not heard much Gopalnath, but that sounds great.

Rudresh puts out a lot of music, all great. I am particularly fond of Apti by his Indo-Pak Jazz Coalition and Kinsmen, which is the record with Kadri Gopalnath. I saw Rudresh this summer in Chicago and it was cool. He was overblowing a lot, but he was playing in a huge outdoor venue, and who the fuck am I to say he was overblowing?

[IntoTheSun]

A piece of pure pop pastiche, I present: The Postmarks (alteration is rad).

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Definitely "adorable"

This stuff is pretty old, but i've always really enjoyed Le Monte Young.

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Seems like this stuff's a hit or miss with me. This one's kind of a "miss"...sorry. Do all of their songs encorporate piano?

[ohmessylife]

Definitely "adorable"



Seems like this stuff's a hit or miss with me. This one's kind of a "miss"...sorry. Do all of their songs encorporate piano?


Nope. See if you like this any better:

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[ruffian]

if you like pocahaunted, check out sleep over (www.myspace.com/sleepoverforever (http://www.myspace.com/sleepoverforever)) edit: and zola jesus

[Matt Chylak]

Honestly, I think the fact that we have to discuss whether or not it's music is actually pretty respectable. This legitimately pushes the envelope of what one can call "music" in a tasteful, artistically meaningful manner, and I like that.

maybe you guys are ready for this, then.

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i showed this in my musicians on music class today and got a pretty solid conversation going.
this is called a "happening" by the way

EDIT: the performance starts around 5:30, but the preceding stuff is hilarious.